1 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I was watching Fox News the other day. I'm not 2 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: a regular, but I happen to be watching, and they 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: were talking about how Mom Donnie is ruining New York. 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: A predictable story, but then one of the hosts said 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: something interesting. She said, doesn't he understand that what he's 6 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: doing is not good for the city. Doesn't he understand 7 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: that it's going to make people want to leave? Doesn't 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: he understand? I call this the they just don't get 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: it approach. It's the standard approach that we Republicans, we 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: on the right use with the left and the Democrats. 11 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: I hear it all the time on social media, on podcasts, 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: on right wing talk radio. Don't the Democrats realize that 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: voter ID is essential to election integrity? Doesn't the left 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: understand that illegals takeaway job from American citizens? We heard 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the same refrain through the Biden years. Doesn't Joe Biden know, 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: or maybe I should say, doesn't the autopen know that 17 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: they're letting in criminals and terrorists through their poorous border policies. 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: I even heard the same rhetoric from conservatives during the 19 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: Obama years. Obama doesn't understand that giving Iran palettes of 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: money and a green light on nuclear weapons is dangerous 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: for our security. Obama doesn't realize that Obamacare will make 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,279 Speaker 1: our healthcare system more expensive and more bureaucratic. Obama doesn't 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: seem to get it that he is making race relations worse, 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: not better. They just don't get it. That's our underlying framework. 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Let's spell it out some more. A basic assumption is 26 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: that the left and the Democrats do bad things, not 27 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: because they are bad people or because they are after 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: self serving and destructive ends. No, they do bad things 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: because they don't know better. They are ignorant, and it's 30 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: our job to educate them. Hey Obama, let me explain 31 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: to you how there are bad actors in the world, 32 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: and the Mullahs are in that group. Hey, Biden, gang, 33 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: we need to educate you about why you shouldn't use 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: the weaponry of the government to go after your political opponents. Hey, Democrats, 35 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: let us help you figure out that the Save Act 36 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: mandatory voter ID is good for democracy and good for 37 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: our country. Now, I want to argue that this is 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: a completely wrong headed way to think about Democrats and 39 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: the left. But before I do, let's trace the history 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: of this. You just don't get it. Philosophy. It actually 41 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: goes back to the ancient Greeks. The ancient Greeks believed 42 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: Socrates is a typical example that vice is folly. 43 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: Vice is the. 44 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: Result of ignorance, and virtue arises out of knowledge. People 45 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: do wrong things because they don't know better. If they 46 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: knew better, they wouldn't do these things. Our job, and 47 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: the job of philosophy is to edge up them. But 48 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: contrasts a Socratic approach with the apostle Paul. Now, Paul 49 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: writes the good that I would I do not the 50 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: evil that I would not that I do. Paul is 51 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: saying that even though I know better, I do bad 52 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: and evil things. For Paul, the problem is not ignorance. 53 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: The problem is with the will. The will is guided 54 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: by lust, hatred, ambition. The will refuses to be bound 55 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: by reason. Instead, the will uses reason to achieve its 56 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: self serving and wicked ends. So who describes the Left 57 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: and the Democrats better, Socrates or Paul? 58 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: To me, the answer is obvious, it's Paul. 59 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Where then, do we get this naive idea that the 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: left does what it does because of ignorance because it 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: doesn't know better. I believe we get it from the 62 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: naivete of the Reagan years. 63 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: In the Reagan years, we. 64 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Generally believe that the differences between the parties, the difference 65 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: between us and them, were differences not of ends, but 66 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: only of means. In that Reaganite framework, the right and 67 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: the left both want a strong, safe, prosperous America. We 68 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: all want to go to the same place. We have 69 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: some disagreements, such as how our prosperity should be shared, 70 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: how to carve up the pie, but these are disagreements 71 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: within a shared vision. Therefore, the two sides are really 72 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: on the same side. Politically speaking, we are friends and 73 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: not enemies. If they go in a different direction than us, 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: our job is to show them that they are misguided. 75 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Today's Republicans, today's right has inherited that same framework from 76 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: the Reagan era. 77 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: They just don't get it. 78 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: It's our job to educate them, to show them where 79 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: their interests truly lie. There's a huge fallacy here, and 80 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: it can be illustrated with the example of a gang 81 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: of bank robbers who go around robbing and holding up banks. 82 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: Now imagine saying to the robbers, this is not a 83 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: good idea. Banks rely on public trust in order to 84 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: stay in business. If people regularly rob banks, then banks 85 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: would go out of business and people would no longer 86 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: deposit money in them. So this bank robbery thing is 87 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: counterproduct because it ends up destroying the banking system itself. Obviously, 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: the robbers wouldn't care why, because they want money for themselves. 89 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: They don't care what the effect is on the banking system. 90 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: And I think the same logic applies to the Democrats. 91 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: Obama didn't care. He was making Iran stronger and America weaker. 92 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: In fact, that was his goal. This was the point 93 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: of my book, The Roots of Obama's Rage. In my 94 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: first film twenty sixteen, Obama's America, my theme was that 95 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Obama was driven by a third world, anti colonial vision 96 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: in which America is the bad guy and the people 97 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: fighting America are the good guys. Obama wanted to take 98 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: America down a notch, and he did. He wanted to 99 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: diminish America's power in the world, and he did. All 100 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: Our attempts to educate Obama, to instruct him, to make 101 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: him see the light, failed miserably, not because we are 102 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: poor educators, but because Obama knew exactly what he was doing. 103 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: He understood his objectives much better than we did. He 104 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: moved purposefully to achieve them. We misunderstood Obama because we 105 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: falsely presumed he shared our objectives. We offered him a 106 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: lot of helpful instruction that he considered to be completely useless. 107 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: The other day, through some idol scrolling on social media, 108 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: I happened on a meeting of the Oakland City Council. 109 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: What a menagerie. 110 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of complete dirt balls and losers, 111 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: people who seemed utterly indifferent to what makes a city 112 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: run well, in effect ruining the city. And of course 113 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: the city is in shambles. It looks like a third 114 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: world country, which to some extent it is. San Francisco 115 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: or New York may be headed the same way. Now 116 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: imagine saying to these city council people, hey, guys, you 117 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: simply don't know how to run a city. You don't 118 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: get it. Let us show you how to attract entrepreneurs. 119 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: Let us show you how to reduce tax rates and regulation. 120 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: Let us offer you some practical tips on making the 121 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: city safer. There are many good ways to improve education 122 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: and make public services more efficient. 123 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. 124 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: Now you can try this approach. But I predict it 125 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: will be a total failure. They have no interest in 126 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: doing any of this. Why would they want to make 127 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: public services more efficient when their friends all run programs 128 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: that are looting public services. Why would they want to 129 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: streamline the homeless industry when it provides huge funding to 130 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: nonprofits that are their political allies and help them win elections. 131 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: The Oakland City Council doesn't care if Oakland becomes a 132 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: wasteland as long as they can stay in power and 133 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: feast on its carcass. And the same can be said 134 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: about the Democrats who run San Francisco, Chicago, Minneapolis, and 135 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: every other blue city. They are termites who can be 136 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: counted on to protect termite interests. 137 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: Here's the big picture. 138 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: A fearful, dependent population is one that relies on the 139 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Democratic Party to keep it fearful and dependent. These are 140 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: the left's most reliable voters. The last thing they want 141 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: is an educated, upwardly mobile population in Oakland or anyplace else. 142 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: As soon as people can make do for themselves, they 143 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: no longer need the Democratic Party to make it happen 144 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: for them. In a way, the dirt balls on the 145 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: Oakland City Council understand perfectly well, what keeps them in power. 146 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: We need to stop with the They just don't get it. 147 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: It doesn't work. 148 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't work because they know exactly what they're doing. 149 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: They are building their political networks and extending their political power. 150 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: They wouldn't have such a grip on our culture and 151 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: politics if they were as ignorant and incompetent as we 152 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: imagine them to be. In reality, we are the ones 153 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: who are ignorant and incompetent. We have not taken the 154 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: measure of our opponents. We don't get it. Politics is 155 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: a contest of power. The left understands this better than 156 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: we do. If we want to stop the Left and 157 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats, we have to outvote them outorganize them outfund 158 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: them out, maneuver them. In short, we have to defeat 159 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: them politically. Let's stop with the useless tutorials, the endless 160 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: educational jibber jabber. The Democrats operate just like termites, like 161 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: bank robbers, and we can't talk them out of doing 162 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: what they do. And that's the way I see it. 163 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk to the Americans who have woken 164 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: up at three am and found themselves staring at the 165 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: ceiling feeling a growing sense of panic, not from a nightmare, 166 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: from arithmetic. You're running the numbers in your head, the grocery, 167 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: build a gas, heating the mortgage, and something doesn't add up. 168 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: Not because you've been irresponsible, because you have the instinct 169 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: of someone who has read enough history to recognize a 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,559 Speaker 1: pattern that three am feeling. 171 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 2: It's not anxiety, it. 172 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: Is accurate because I've spent decades studying how regimes from 173 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: fascist Italy to socialist Venezuela consolidate power. And what I'm 174 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: watching happen to the American middle class, to the silent 175 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: majority of this country right now follows the same playbook, 176 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: page by page. The global financial establishment has always understood 177 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: one thing better than its opponents. Control the money, and 178 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: you control the people. This isn't new. FDR confiscated gold 179 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty three. Nixon killed the dollar's last link 180 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: to real value in nineteen seventy one. Each time Washington 181 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: told you it was for your own good. 182 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: Ha. 183 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: Each time, the political class got stronger and the working 184 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: family got weaker. Now, what's different today is the speed 185 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: and the shamelessness of it. 186 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 4: All. 187 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: The same ideological movement that gave us open borders a 188 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: weaponized Justice Department, and the most politically captured bureaucracy in 189 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: American history is also the movement running your federal reserve. 190 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: And they're printing dollars the way they print narratives, relentlessly 191 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: and with zero accountability. Every dollar day print is a 192 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: quiet tax on the dollars that you have already earned. 193 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: Think about that. 194 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: You work for it, you sacrifice for it, You did 195 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: everything right, and they are diluting your reward in real 196 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: time with a key stroke every late night, every skipped holiday, 197 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: every hour you chose work over comfort so your family 198 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to struggle dust. 199 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: That is not mismanagement. 200 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: That is ideology in action, and deep down, at three am, 201 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: you already know it. The forgotten men and women of 202 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: this country always do. Now Here is what the globalist 203 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: deletes do not want you to understand, because they've spent 204 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: years conditioning you to laugh at it. Cryptocurrency exists entirely 205 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: beyond their control. They cannot print it, they cannot inflate it, 206 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: they cannot subpoena it out of existence. It operates on 207 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: mathematical law, not political will. That's precisely why the same 208 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: establishment media that covers for every Democrat Scandal has spent 209 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: years telling you crypto is dangerous, and asset they cannot 210 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: manipulate is a citizen they cannot manage. 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You need an America first system that 220 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: protects your family's future automatically, one built for people who 221 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: have real lives, real work, and real stakes in the country. 222 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,359 Speaker 1: That system is block trust IRA. It's award winning platform. 223 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: Animus Ai works as a vault door between your savings 224 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:41,359 Speaker 1: and the globalist financial establishments. Manufactured chaos, calm, calculated, impenetrable. 225 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't watch cable news, it doesn't panic. It doesn't sleep, 226 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: so that at three am when you wake up and 227 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: reach for that worry. It isn't there anymore. 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I 251 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: was in Budapest this past weekend to speak at Seapack Budapest. 252 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: One of the most electrifying speeches there was given by 253 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: the Dutch right wing activist Eva lar Dingerbrook. I sat 254 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: down with Eva to talk about her core themes migration, 255 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: remigration and the Islamic element. Eva, we're in Budapest for 256 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: Seapac Hungary, and you've spoken about how Europe, the greatest 257 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: civilization in world history, is being systematically erased. 258 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: How is that happening. 259 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: Oh, it's happening through mass immigration. 260 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: Now as we're speaking, there are thousands of people coming 261 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: in through our borders and we oftentimes have no idea 262 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 3: who they are. And this has been going on for 263 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: decades now. We've seen that in Europe the population has 264 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: been replaced and changed drastically in a very very short 265 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 3: time span. When I was just on stage right now, 266 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: I quoted two statistics, which are conservative estimates that in 267 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: Europe the past fifty years alone, eighty million immigrants have 268 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: entered our continent. You know, that's something that you can't 269 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: expect to happen and then have no consequences whatsoever. 270 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 4: And I think that. 271 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: Everyone who's either older than me, you know, has seen 272 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: that change even more drastically, or people in my age 273 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: group were even younger. We almost haven't really known any better, 274 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: but we experience the disadvantages and the consequences of it. 275 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: What's puzzling to me is it's not strange to me 276 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: that people from the Third World would want to kind 277 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: of break their way in here, right, It's more developed society, 278 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: it offers more opportunities, it's beautiful continent. 279 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: Do you think the decision. 280 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: To third World eyes Europe was a decision made by 281 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: Europeans and why did they do that? 282 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: But was not made by the population of the different 283 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: populations in Europe? 284 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 4: Democratically speaking, I can tell you that. 285 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 3: I mean, even in the nineteen eighty eighties, for example, 286 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: in the Netherlands, there were polls being done that showed 287 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: that the vast majority of the Dutch did not want 288 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: mass migration. And then, of course after the eighties we 289 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: had much more immigration than they probably even could have 290 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: imagined at the time. And this has been consistently the case. 291 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: Now we're at a point where in almost every single 292 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: northwestern European country, obviously the countries that were hit the 293 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: hardest by mass immigration eighty percent, seventy percent, those are 294 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: about the ranges of those those nations are saying no, 295 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: we don't want this, we want to halt all immigration 296 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: to our nations. Yet nothing seems to really be changing 297 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: in most of these countries. 298 00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: And of course, you. 299 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: Know, we don't have to look very far to find 300 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: answers as to why that is happening. We have a 301 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: supernational organization, the European Union, that is deciding many of 302 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: these things for us because their laws take precedence over 303 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: our national laws and most of the legal systems in Europe. 304 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 3: So you have this organization of unelected bureaucrats that have 305 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: the power to make these types of decisions against the 306 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: will of the people essentially. So I very often say, look, 307 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: you know, we talk about democracy all the time, but 308 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: what does that really mean when your own lawmakers are 309 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: not in charge. 310 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: Do you think that the ideology of the EU and 311 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: then also the countless NGOs that are associated with it, 312 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: is based upon the idea that Europe is this wonderful 313 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: place to which we are trying to assimilate all these 314 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: non Western people. That's the benign view, right or do 315 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: you think it's more something like this, Europe is an 316 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: evil civilization that has colonized the world and deserves to 317 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: be punished for its sins, and we are using this 318 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: migration as an effort to almost colonize Europe. 319 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I think it's the latter exactly. I think that 320 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: at least the people who are doing this do it 321 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 3: because of that reason. There is a type of trauma 322 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: in Europe, especially after the Second World War that has 323 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: caused huge white guilt, has made it basically impossible to 324 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 3: have any type of normal discussion about what it means 325 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 3: to be European, as I just try to do on stage. 326 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 4: You know what does that mean? You know? 327 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: Can we completely factor something like ethnicity out of the equation? 328 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 3: I think that at this point in time where we 329 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 3: are now, you can't, because the demographic change is so 330 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: enormous that we are becoming a minority soon. And as 331 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 3: you can see, you can't just magically unwind that completely 332 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 3: from things like culture and faith religion. 333 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: You know, it's a fallacy. 334 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: I think that those people have benefited great from maybe 335 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: people with good intentions who more so have that benign 336 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: view that you just described. You know of people who think, no, 337 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 3: but we have a moral obligation to help people in need. No, 338 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: And I'm a Catholic, I'm a Christian, I believe that 339 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 3: as well. 340 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 4: But there are limits to that. 341 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: You can do that in a charitable way for a 342 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 3: short period in time in which people actually do need 343 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: that help, and then you know, after, let's say that 344 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 3: that conflict is over, you can say, Okay, well, now 345 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 3: it's time for you to go back to your own 346 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 3: country and rebuild your nation, to which you have a 347 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 3: moral obligation to pass it on and protect it. 348 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 4: Right, And we all have that, And. 349 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: So that is for me, the most important topic right 350 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 3: now in European politics, because we are getting to a 351 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 3: point where soon we don't have a nation left to protect, 352 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: we don't have a European civilization left to protect, because 353 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: we will be outnumbered. 354 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: I thought it was remarkable that you did not shy 355 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: away from defending I would call it white identity, and 356 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is that Europe is a 357 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: civilization made by white people, and all of its history, 358 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: its culture is part of that. And so because there 359 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: has been, certainly in the West, a certain deep reluctance 360 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: to defend white ethnicity. In other words, every other minority 361 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: affirms its ethnicity, and you have black pride and brown 362 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: pride and so on. Exactly are you saying, in part 363 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: that it's only necessary and inevitable in that environment that 364 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: whites do need to say I'm white when I'm proud 365 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: of it. 366 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think at least that there is absolutely nothing 367 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 3: wrong with it. So just as you described, you know, 368 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 3: everywhere in the world that seems to be a normal thing. 369 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: People don't see us as strange. You know, the idea 370 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: that Africans are proud of their respective nations, or that 371 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: Asians say we want Asia to remain Asian, you know, 372 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 3: all of that is seem as totally normal, whereas here 373 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: in Europe it is not. It is demonized that you know, 374 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: you get labeled every single bad name in the book, 375 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: let's say. And that of course boils back down to 376 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 3: that that trauma of the Second World War that we 377 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: are talking about. I think that people have started to 378 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: equate let's say, being white with something evil such as 379 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 3: the Holocaust to happen or even you know, less less 380 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: extreme than that. There are people in power who who 381 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 3: seem to want to make people believe that everything that 382 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: is traditional, you know, or Christian, Christian, or conservative, or 383 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: patriotic or identitarian, that that is wrong, and that that 384 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 3: type of pride, pride, or even just acceptance of who 385 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: you are and where you come from, that that leads 386 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 3: to terrible things. And I think that now we've gone 387 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: so much the other way, and the terrible things that 388 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: are happening in front of our noses every single day 389 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: are being buried by the same people push these policies, 390 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 3: and we shouldn't accept that anymore. 391 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: Do you think that Islamic immigration poses a special kind 392 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: of problem? In other words, there's the problem of migration generally, right, 393 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: it would be difficult for any country to take a 394 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: large number of Indians or Guyanese for that matter. But 395 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: is there something unique about the Islamic penetration and infiltration 396 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: of Europe. It's also happening, of course in Australia and 397 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: Canada and in the United States, the mushrooming of mosques 398 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: all over the place and so on. 399 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 4: Yep, does that. 400 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: Pose a special threat that's worth identifying? 401 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 5: Yeah? 402 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 403 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: I think that we can see that looking realistically as 404 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: what has happened in Europe. I mean, the religious and 405 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: cultural differences are so stark, you know, they're so opposite 406 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: from each other, Christianity and Islam in that sense. We've 407 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: seen the consequences of that, and a lot of Europeans 408 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: already seem to kind of, I don't know, have become 409 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: numb to that or forgotten about it. But I haven't 410 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 3: forgotten about the series, endless series of terror attacks that 411 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: we witnessed in Europe, especially when we had the first 412 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: migrant crisis in twenty fifteen. You know, in those days, 413 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 3: it was almost every week in the news was another 414 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: terror attack. And now, even though maybe we see those 415 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: a bit less, you know, the let's say, the subjugation 416 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 3: or the submission of the Christian white population in Europe 417 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: is even further ahead than it was back then. And 418 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: you have children who are going on trips to mosques, 419 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: bowing down to Allah even though they're and they never 420 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: set foot in the church. 421 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 4: You know, and those types of things. 422 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 3: Again, I think there are people who know exactly why 423 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: they are doing that, because they carry a deep hatred. 424 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 3: Could say that for everything that is originally European, so therefore, 425 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: for of course its foundation Christian. And there are people 426 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 3: who think that, no, that that's just a nice thing 427 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: to do to understand, you know, another religion, better, another culture. 428 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: But I think that we're very, very much past that stage. 429 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: Last question, the very briefly, in the United States, there 430 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: is a pioneer spirit in Texas, there's the phrase come 431 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: and take it. It sometimes seems from the American vantage 432 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: point that the Europeans have given up, that they're decad 433 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: into the sense that they are reconciled to defeat, to 434 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: being dissolved, to being undermined. Do you think there's enough 435 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: fight in Europe? 436 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 2: I mean you have it? 437 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: Are you hopeful or confident that there's enough in the 438 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: continent that the people of Europe will take their countries back? 439 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: There is enough, but it has to be awakened. And 440 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: so that's why I constantly tell people do not get demoralized. 441 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 4: Because the moment that you do, the moment that you say. 442 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: No, it's too difficult, it's too hard, we won't get 443 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: it done, we can't do something like remigration. 444 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 4: You know, then it really is over. You might as 445 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 4: well just give up the fight now. 446 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: But the thing is is that this can be solved 447 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 3: because something that I would really love to avoid is 448 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 3: that this gets more violent. And with the current demographic replacement, 449 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: you know, I think there are many experts who have 450 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 3: said for many years, now watch out, this is going 451 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 3: to lead. 452 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: The civil war. 453 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: If we want to avoid that, and I think it's 454 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 3: either that or it's a silent takeover, then there's another option, 455 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 3: and that is remigration, which a large part of that 456 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: can be done completely voluntarily. It might cost us a 457 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: bit of money, but you know, mass immigration to the 458 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: Western world is costing us a lot. 459 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 4: Of money as it is. 460 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: And I think that the you know, the even the 461 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 3: matter of financial costs at this point should be inferior 462 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: to the cultural costs. 463 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: How civilization itself is exactly exactly. 464 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, thank you, thank you. 465 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: Big news coming out on silver right now. 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So please welcome Dinesh de 498 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 6: Suza and ballaj Orb. 499 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 7: Hello everybody, Hello everybody. 500 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: I'm Dneesh Jsuza, and I am an author and a 501 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: scholar and a filmmaker in the United States, and I 502 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: want to begin a conversation by saying a few words 503 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: about what is happening in America, but also to try 504 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: to describe this crisis that we are dealing with in 505 00:28:51,960 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: its broadest terms. If we think historically, Western civilization has 506 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: dominated the world for the past five hundred years. Prior 507 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: to that, there was a sort of rivalry of multiple civilizations. 508 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 7: You had the Indian. 509 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Civilization, the Chinese civilization, the civilization of the America's Islamic civilization, 510 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: and Western civilization was quite honestly a bit of a 511 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: relative backwater compared to some of these other civilizations. 512 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 7: But this began to. 513 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Change starting around the year fifteen hundred, and what has 514 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: happened since then is the leadership of the West has shifted. 515 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: So the sixteenth century belonged to the Portuguese, the seventeenth 516 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: century to the Spanish, the eighteenth century to the French, 517 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century to the British, and in the twentieth 518 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: century the United States of America became the frontline representative 519 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: and defender of the West. There is currently, in my view, 520 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: a massive effort to undo these five hundred years of history, 521 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: to ultimately overturn Western superiority, and to structure the world 522 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: in a different way. 523 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 7: What is particularly strange is. 524 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: That this attack on the West is not merely coming 525 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: from the outside, but it is also being promoted from 526 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: the inside. In other words, some of the deadliest enemies 527 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: of Western civilization are inside Western civilization. And in fact, 528 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: the progressive left is the vanguard and the enabler of 529 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: the campaign to bring down the West and to end 530 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: the era of Western historical superiority. Now in the United 531 00:30:54,680 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: States we have this phrase make America great again, And 532 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: I want to reflect on that for a moment as 533 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: to what. 534 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: That actually means. 535 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: And then I want to ask Bolashe to comment about 536 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: what does it mean for Hungary, what does it mean 537 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: for Europe? Make America great again is a reference to 538 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: the ideals that shaped America, particularly the ideals of the 539 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: American Constitution. But if you were to try to put 540 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: this in a very concrete way, my mind flashes back 541 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: to when Ronald Reagan first ran for the presidency in 542 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty he said, I'm running for to protect five things. 543 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: He said, first, I'm running to defend the idea of 544 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: the individual. And if we think about it, the idea 545 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: of the individual, of individuality is a Western invention, the 546 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: idea that each of our lives has a unique significance 547 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: and a unique destiny. This is a Western idea. So 548 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: number one is the idea of the individual. Number two 549 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: the idea of the nuclear or traditional family. Number three 550 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: the church, Number four the local community, the neighborhood and 551 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: civic life at the local level. And number five the country, 552 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: which is to say patriotism, which is to say the nation. 553 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: So conservatism, when we use the phrase conservatism, what are 554 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: we trying to conserve? We are trying to conserve those 555 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: five things. Who is against those things? Well, the two 556 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: most aggressive forces against those things are number one Radical 557 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: Islam and number two the progressive Left. Now, what's interesting 558 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: about these two groups is that they have completely different endpoints. 559 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: They don't inhabit each other's worlds very comfortably. But even 560 00:32:53,320 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: though their final destination is very different, they're intermediate enemy 561 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: is the same. They are united in a hatred of 562 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: the principles of the West. They are united in a 563 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: hatred of the individual, the family, the church, the local community, 564 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 1: and the idea of patriotism and nationalism. If the radical 565 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: Muslims hate these things, the progressive left hates them just 566 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: as much, if not more. And so in my view, 567 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: this is what There's been a coordinated global left for 568 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: a long time, very well organized, very much in touch 569 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: with each other across the world. There's only emerging now 570 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: for the first time that I see it a global right. 571 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: We're only seeing offshoots of it, but it is, it 572 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: is developing. 573 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 7: And what I'd like to explore a lot with you, 574 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 7: if I. 575 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: May, is how do you see the role of Europe 576 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: in general, but specifically Hungry in fighting this global struggle. 577 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 8: Well, good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. It's a privilege to 578 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 8: be here. Yes, you have to know that we Hungarians 579 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 8: are I would say we are quite quite a special 580 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 8: species because we do not want to save the world. 581 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 8: We just want to protect Hungary as it is and 582 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 8: as it was and as it should remain and should 583 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 8: be in the future. 584 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 5: This is our ultimate goal. 585 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 8: So we Hungarian politics, Hungarian politicians on the patriotic side, 586 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 8: we think that our first and foremost responsibility is to defend. 587 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 7: The interest of our people. 588 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 8: And I'm also leading an education and a talent management institution, 589 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 8: and I try to convince the very talented, very bright 590 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 8: students that they should understand the word, they should explore 591 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 8: the word, but they should focus on. 592 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 5: The domestic issues. 593 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 8: If they learn biology, they should have to save the 594 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 8: domestic species, animals or creatures, because no one else would 595 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 8: do that. If all the Hungarians are focusing on the 596 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 8: universalis things, focusing on things which are happening outside the 597 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 8: continent and the outside different sides, different parts of the world, 598 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 8: and who will focus on things which are actually matters 599 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 8: for those people who are living here. So I think 600 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 8: this mindset is very much relevant and very much important 601 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 8: for the patrioty forces everywhere, especially here in Hungary and Europe. 602 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 8: We need political leadership which takes responsibility in line with 603 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 8: the need and the interest of those people who are 604 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 8: electing them, because we cannot rely on the liberals because 605 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 8: the liberals they follow very different principles, as you were saying. 606 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 8: They have universalist beliefs which turned out to be devastating beliefs. 607 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 8: They say it's about freedom, but it turns out it's 608 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 8: about letting invaders in, and so it's a lie. It's 609 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 8: something which is actually not benefiting the people of the 610 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 8: Western nations but actually undermining their future. So what we 611 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 8: realized is that if we don't stick together, we nationalist 612 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 8: patriotic political forces in the West, and sooner or later 613 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 8: the liberals will overtake us and destroy each and every nation, 614 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 8: and then we are in trouble. 615 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 5: So then we. 616 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 8: Started to open up a little bit, still focusing on 617 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 8: our domestic issues, but opening up a little bit and 618 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 8: trying to find partners and friends. And this is why 619 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 8: we are extremely grateful to have you and all the 620 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 8: European and American people from everywhere to come to visit 621 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 8: in Hungary discuss things, sticking together and trying to create 622 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 8: a movement which can make. 623 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 7: Us very proud. 624 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 8: So my question for you would be what's going on 625 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 8: in the United States, because we need in the United 626 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 8: States and American leadership, which is saving actually the great 627 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 8: people of the United States. And I hope we will 628 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 8: have and we will that leadership will remain in Hungary, 629 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 8: which is which is the first and foremost important goal, 630 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 8: is to save the great people of Hungary. 631 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 7: What's going on in the United States is that, by. 632 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: Some strange turn of providence, the United States has produced 633 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 1: a leader in Trump. I think it's fair to say 634 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: that when God made Donald Trump, he threw away the mold. 635 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: By that, I mean this is a very unique character 636 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: who is now at the helm in the United States, 637 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: unlike any other president in almost every way. The power 638 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: of Trump, I think is that he represents something in 639 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: the American spirit, which is a pioneer spirit. It is 640 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: a spirit that that distrusts bureaucratic. 641 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 7: Obfuscation. 642 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 2: You know. 643 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 1: I if a normal American president goes to a meeting, 644 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: they come out with the usual boilerplate like we had 645 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: an interesting meeting, we made significant progress, we expressed our concerns, 646 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. 647 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: This is not Trump. 648 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 7: You know. 649 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,959 Speaker 1: Trump will come out a meeting with Kim Jong un, 650 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 1: and he will say, you know, that guy is really short, 651 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 1: you know. And Trump will say something like I was 652 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: tempted to put my glass on his head. Uh, And 653 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 1: you know he wanted to know why I call him rocketman. 654 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 1: You know now, what I'm getting at is the sophisticated 655 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 1: people will laugh and they will go, look at Trump. 656 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: He's such an idiot. But what Trump is doing, which 657 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: is very important, I think, is he is putting you 658 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: in the room. He is showing you I'm going to 659 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: take you behind the curtain. I'm going to show you 660 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: how these things actually function face to face. Now, from 661 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: the vantage point of the United States, Europe. 662 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 7: Appears to have lost its nerve. 663 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 1: Looking at Europe generically, it seems to have lost its 664 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: fighting spirit. It is not the Europe of Walter Rawley. 665 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: It's not the Europe of Winston Churchill anymore. It's almost 666 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 1: like when I visited Venice some years ago, they were 667 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: telling me that when the Venetians were surpassed by the 668 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: Spanish and building ships, they invented Carnival. Carnival is a 669 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: way of saying that we are finished, We're never coming 670 00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: up again. Let's have a party in decline and we 671 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: have to get used to it. So to me, the 672 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: importance of Hungary is You've got this little outpost in 673 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 1: Europe with a great history, and I hope I see 674 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: it in urban and I see it in the Hungarian people. 675 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: The importance of the Hungarian election for me, it is 676 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: an attempt to show that in Europe the continent is 677 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: not finished. In Europe, these core principles of the individual, 678 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: the family, the community, the country are still important if 679 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: you're willing to fight for them. They're probably going to 680 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 1: be some people in Denmark and the Netherlands and France, 681 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know, France is maybe too far gone, 682 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: but you might be able to help revive Europe because 683 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: right now Europe is breathing down your neck. I'm thinking 684 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: here of the bureaucracy of the EU, and hopefully you 685 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: can find some allies in the United States and elsewhere 686 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: to help you in this EU attempt to squash out 687 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: your movement and dissolve you into this progressive European bureaucracy, 688 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: which would be the death of Hungary and the death 689 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: of Europe. 690 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 5: Don't worry, Dinash, we have a plan. 691 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 8: We are going to win the elections then we are 692 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 8: going to restore central European patriotic cooperation and then we 693 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 8: will demolish the Brassey and bureaucrats and take take over 694 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 8: Brassel and restore Europe of nations. That's our goal, quite simple. 695 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 7: We will have a couple. 696 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: More time, yes, now that that would be good. Let's 697 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: let's conclude very briefly with a word about about Ukraine. 698 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 7: If you have a word to say about it, I'll babe. 699 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 7: Then wrap it up. 700 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 8: Well, it's it's it's not an easy situation. We have 701 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 8: to be very honest. It was mentioned in the previous 702 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 8: discussions as well. They have their goals, we have our goals. 703 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 8: The problem is that what Ukraine wants it goes against 704 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 8: the interest of Hungary. It's so simple. They want something 705 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 8: from us which is not good for our people. So 706 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 8: we are Hungarian politicians, so we don't want to support 707 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 8: the Hungarian people do not want to support the war. 708 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 8: They do want to be in the same union with Ukraine, 709 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 8: and they want to use cheap energy. That's so simple. 710 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 8: So yes, that's a black and white question. Either their 711 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 8: interest will succeed or our interests will be protected. So 712 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 8: what we are preparing for is we are going to 713 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 8: We are not looking for any kind of confrontation, but 714 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 8: we have to be able to protect our interests because 715 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 8: that's our duty. 716 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 5: So simple. 717 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: Looking at it from the US point of view, there's 718 00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: a very important difference between Russia and say Iran. The 719 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: Russia phutin is is somebody who is aggressively defending the 720 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: Russian interests, as he should, but he is not threatening 721 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: the world with a revolutionary ideology anchored in martyrdom that 722 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: seeks ultimately and in fact proclaims death to America, death 723 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: to the West. 724 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 7: That is attacking us. 725 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: Not merely ideologically, but also with a certain type of 726 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: religious zeal. One of the striking things about Islam to 727 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: me today is it has not lost the force of 728 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: its original revelation. It's almost as if it has the 729 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: same fire today that it had in the seventh century. Christianity, 730 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 1: on the other hand, is not so. I think that 731 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: the reason that Iran poses a threat and the United 732 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: States is dealing with it along with Israel, is because 733 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: this is something that is a menace not just to 734 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: Iranian the Iranian people, but also to the region. The 735 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: Iranians are active in Venezuela, they're active in Mexico and 736 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: South America. The threat ultimately is reaching us in a 737 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: way that the Russia Ukraine War is not. And so 738 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: I think in foreign policy you have to make a 739 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: distinction between countries that are pursuing their own national interests 740 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: this is to be expected, and revolutionary ideologies that would 741 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: if they could not, let any of us sleep peacefully 742 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: at night. 743 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 7: And with that, thank you for joining me. 744 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 2: Balashan. 745 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 7: Thank you very much, Thank you very much. 746 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 5: Goodbye. 747 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,240 Speaker 2: Hey, I'm now on substack. It's kind of full circle 748 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 2: for me. 749 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: I started out as ajournalist, writing articles for National Review, 750 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: the American Spectator, the Washington Post, lots of places. After 751 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: my stint in the Reagan White House, I pivoted to 752 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 1: writing books, and that was way back in nineteen ninety one. 753 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: So I've been mainly known as an author and of 754 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: course later as a filmmaker. But my first job journalist, 755 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 1: and now I'm getting back to that. On substack, you'll 756 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: get original articles and commentary, groundbreaking investigations, exclusive access to 757 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: film clips and show clips, and guess what, it's free. 758 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 1: So check it out. Go to Dinesh Desuza dot substack 759 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 1: dot com. 760 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 9: Then another sign up here to heaven an enormous red 761 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:57,239 Speaker 9: Dragon Revelation twelve to three. 762 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: Once again an armed attack in the Middle East, but 763 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 2: this time it's different. 764 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 10: October seventh was the Devil's helmet. 765 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 3: It's very hard to believe what happened, even though I 766 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 3: was there and seeing with my own eyes and seeing 767 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 3: them laughing and killing and having fun with it. Because 768 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 3: if you don't open the door, they are going to 769 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,800 Speaker 3: kill you, and they are going to kill me. 770 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 7: So clease open the door. 771 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 2: So who are the Jews? Who are the Palestinians? 772 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 7: And whose land is it? 773 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 9: Really? 774 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: Could the fate of the world of humanity itself be 775 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,880 Speaker 1: somehow tied to this place. 776 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 10: The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation, so what 777 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 10: if there was going to be a resurrection of another 778 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:59,479 Speaker 10: people and enemy people of Israel. The Bible speaks about 779 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 10: this whole or as a dragon representing the enemy attacking 780 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 10: a woman representing Israel. 781 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: The civilian debts on both sides represent victories on the 782 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,240 Speaker 1: part of the Dragon. 783 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 8: Master everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty. 784 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 5: We came back to a land that was largely barren 785 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 5: and empty, and we brought it back to life, and 786 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 5: we're good to keep it. 787 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 10: The devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the 788 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 10: existence of God. 789 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity. If 790 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: we're approaching the end of time, God will reveal himself 791 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,720 Speaker 1: more and more dramatically. 792 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 7: Speak back through the stones. The story that Dave been 793 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 7: telling is that Israel is a colonial project. The problem 794 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,800 Speaker 7: with that is the City of David. 795 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 2: We are an inconvenient truth. 796 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: Are you aware of any significant archaeological finding that contradicts 797 00:47:59,480 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 1: the Bible? 798 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 3: Nope. 799 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,800 Speaker 2: God's word stands firm. 800 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 5: The God. 801 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 2: The Dragon will not prevail. 802 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 5: The God. 803 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: Your message here is Become a Dragon Slayer. 804 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 9: That's based on Jonathan Conn's number one international bestseller The 805 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 9: Dragon's Prophecy. This film contains graphic violence of October seventh