1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Life Audio. Hey Christian, thanks for joining me. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Hey, good to be with you, Michael. 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Thanks man, Christian Stanfilip Passion Music is our guest today. Christian. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: You have new music. You guys have new music. The 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: album is titled Just That Good. I've really enjoyed listening 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: to it. You have an upcoming tour as well. I 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: wanted to begin though, by talking about this current movement 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: of God that many are seeing among gen Z, among 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: the general population as well. You guys have been kind 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: of on the front lines of reaching out to the 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: young people of this nation for a long time. What 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: are you seeing right now though, in terms of this 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: outpouring of the spirit, this hunger of God among gen 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: Z and among young people. 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty beautiful, man. There's a real hunger to gather, 16 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: like a desire to gather together. There's a real hunger 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: for God's word and authenticity in the worship. There's a 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: real desire to share, like these students sharing their faith 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: with their friends like an evangelistic spirit like on campus, 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: which is pretty pretty wild. And you know, we've been 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: a part of Passion, my wife and I for over 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 2: twenty years now, and man, I can't remember ever seeing 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: this kind of hunger or desire to meet with God, 24 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: with the people of God, to know God's word, to 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: share their faith. You know, it's it's pretty incredible to watch. 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, it comes down to this. 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: I think this generation wants something durable, something that lasts, 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: something they can build their life on that's not going 29 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 2: to let them down. And you know, you and I 30 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: as well as this generation, I've been promised a lot 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: of things by culture or this world or social media 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: or I don't know, some kind of fame or attention 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: or success. All of that just it's got holes all 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: through it, man. But the Word of God and the 35 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: abundant life that Jesus promises, it's real and it's lasting, 36 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: and these students are discovering that, and it's they want 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: to live for it. It's not hypie, it's not emotional. 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: It's like real life change. There's like repentance, confession and 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: holy living happening. It's really beautiful to watch. 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: What do you think is driving this this current hunger 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: for God among gen zy? What has happened in the 42 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: past few years. 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, it's back to what I 44 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: was saying just a second ago. I think they're looking 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: for something that's going to like stand up under the 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: weight of their life and their concerns and their worries 47 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: and all that kind of thing. But you know, we 48 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: saw a real turn back in twenty three, in February 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 2: of twenty three during this Asbury stirring outpouring, and I'm 50 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: sure there were other things going on around that time, 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: but you know, that seemed to really open the door 52 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: to something fresh in our country. In the US, something 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: really fresh began to move and stir specifically on college campuses. 54 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: And I think, man, this is just my this is 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: just my observation. I'm just one person. I'm sure somebody 56 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: else has a more astute observation or opinion. But I 57 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: think what the Asbery thing did is it stripped back 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: all of the slick, high production value celebrity culture Christianity, like, 59 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: it stripped all that away and it just got back 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: to this simple, the simple thing of God just wants 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: to meet with his people. He just wants a heart 62 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: that is surrendered to him and just coming simply like 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: a child to him, just going I have faith and 64 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: I want to know you. And that's been the move man, 65 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: And that's not to say anything bad about production or 66 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: you know, lights or anything like that, because I know 67 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people in production and that's their expression 68 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: of worship and it's beautiful. I think it all comes 69 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: down to the heart behind all of it. But anyway, 70 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: I think that just started to like take down all 71 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: of that, like, yeah, it's got to be this big, 72 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: blown up thing to like, No, just remember, remember it 73 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: comes down to a heart of faith wanting to meet 74 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: with God and man, he rests on those people. 75 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: So amen to that. Amen to that. I had been 76 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: chatting with friends. We were all talking about the current 77 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: movement of God among gen Z and it it's really 78 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: wild how it might have started at Asbury. So I'm 79 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: glad you mentioned that. And let's chat about the album 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: Just That Good. What are your favorite tracks on the 81 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: album which once have resonated with audiences? 82 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Oh it's so hard, man, because when you 83 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: get so attached. I love these songs. I love this project. 84 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: I love what all the songs represent. I have incredible 85 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: memories with every soul leading Just That Good has been 86 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: a blast. You know, this song it's an expression of 87 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: gratitu to an expression of joy, you know, from from 88 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: a heart from a life that's been redeemed, saved by Jesus. 89 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: You know, for me personally, I have a lot to 90 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: be thankful for. I have a lot of joy in 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: my life for what God has delivered me from and 92 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: for the way He's revealing himself to me. 93 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: I have a lot. 94 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: I'll have a lot of joy and gratitude to express. 95 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: And that's where the song comes from and turns out, Man, 96 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 2: that thread, that through line, that theme of the joy 97 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: of the Lord. It it kind of went from beginning 98 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: to end through conference and just getting undignified and unhinged 99 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: with these students, just like, let's just dance before the Lord, 100 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: let's sing to him, let's let's have a great time 101 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: in the presence of God together, just worshiping Him for 102 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: who he is, for what he's done. So that joy, 103 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 2: you know, kind of strung through the whole conference, and 104 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: so we thought, man, just that good feels like it's 105 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: the right tone. It's the right song for the you know, 106 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: the title track, love Love, Love love that song, and 107 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 2: there's so many good you know, other ones like what 108 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: a worthy Name is Just it's such a holy moment 109 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: declaring who God is singing about the truth of his character. 110 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: Landon leading watch him work is a powerful, straight like 111 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: statement of faith, you know. Just so I have a 112 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: lot of a lot of great, great thoughts by these songs, 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: love them. 114 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: And the Passion conference I believe that we're referencing was 115 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: in Texas, Is that right? Yeah? 116 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. We were at a Globe Life field 117 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: in Arlington and it was you know, like forty five 118 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: thousand college students there. And you know, I just say 119 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: that just to like highlight you know, what we were 120 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: talking about earlier. Like these students, they they come from 121 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 2: all over. They just want to gather, They just want 122 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: to be there. They want to be in the room. 123 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: They want to experience God and with their generation and 124 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: and bro, I just like the picture that's into my 125 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: brain is driving from the hotel to the two Globe 126 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: Live field one morning and watching these kids. They're lightning. 127 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: These kids, well they are kids. I'm in my forties now, 128 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: so they're kids. But these students, I don't mean the 129 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: benean them though. Like they're they're lined up all around 130 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: this building, all down the block, and they all have 131 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: their Bibles. They're all holding their physical Bibles and they're 132 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: they're just ready. You can sense it on them in 133 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: the line, like we are ready to meet with God. 134 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: And and so then you go, well, how long have 135 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: these students been here? Like they got here at three 136 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: o'clock this morning, they got here at three thirty, they 137 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: got to hear at four o'clock this morning, lining up 138 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: just so they can they so they can get in, 139 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: get in the room, they can be some of the 140 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: first in the room. They're just hungry man like, it's 141 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: only it's just a hunger and a thirst for God 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: and his word. It's just crazy. So anyway, it was 143 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: a phenomenal year. 144 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: Phenomenal for those who have never been to a passion 145 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: conference Christian. What is it? Is it? Several hours of 146 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: music and then testimonies and then a sermon? Is that? 147 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: What's kind of what how you would describe it? 148 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just essentially, Yeah, I mean it's you know, 149 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: we usually have a lot of really cool creative elements. 150 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: We have an amazing team of people who they make, 151 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: you know, these really cool video elements. And again like 152 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: these are people who, at the heart of it, they 153 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: love Jesus and this is their expression of worship. So 154 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: it's very cool, like these videos are anointed, like it's crazy, 155 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: and the stage design and all of it. 156 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people. 157 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: Man, we have people stand outside Passion every year picketing, 158 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: being like this is, you know, just a show, It's 159 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 2: just a concert. And I'm like, man, you guys don't know, 160 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: you don't know, you don't know what you don't know. 161 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 2: We've been around for so long, and I can tell 162 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: you the heart of this thing is to see Jesus 163 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: exalted in this generation and to see college students live 164 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: for what matters most, which is the fame and the 165 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: name and the glory of God in their lifetime. Anything 166 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 2: other than that is a waste of time. So at 167 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: the heart of Passion, that's what it is. But we 168 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: do love. We love the stage design, and we love 169 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: the videos, and we love the moments and the songs. 170 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: And then we have these incredible friends who've been around 171 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: Passion for years, who love God and they love his word, 172 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 2: they know his word, and they bring these incredible messages. 173 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: We have testimonies from students. We ask students to give 174 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: money to raise money for like to translate scripture for 175 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 2: unreached people groups, and these students show up and give 176 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: just incredibly they've given millions of dollars over the years 177 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: to translate scripture to rescue people. And it's an incredible moment. 178 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: Like if you can be in the room, you feel 179 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: the Kingdom of God potential in the room, like you 180 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: feel the Kingdom advancing. It's so visceral, it's so re time, 181 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: it's so raw, it's so powerful, like it's it really 182 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: is like it not literally will knock you over sometimes 183 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: and you're like, I can't I can't believe. I get 184 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: to be in the room and observe this happening, let 185 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: alone be a part of like leading like that's that's crazy, 186 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: that's crazy. 187 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: Couple more questions for you before we close here, Christian 188 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: and I give us a preview of the tour. I 189 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: know Taya is going to be part of it. Well, 190 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: what's the tour going to be? 191 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: Yep, So we're going out with Taya and Levi Lusco, 192 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: who preaches it passion. He's he's preached a passion quite 193 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: a bit. He's a great friend of ours. So we 194 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: got Taya and passion music kind of like anchoring the 195 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: music parts of it. It's going to be so great. 196 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 2: And then Levi is going to come in there at 197 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: some point and bring bring a message. And we've been 198 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: talking a lot, you know, me and Taya and the 199 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: three of us have been talking and texting, and it's 200 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: really cool that like we all want the same thing. 201 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: Like none of us are interested in just going on 202 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: who are doing a bunch of concerts. Like I have 203 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 2: a family, I have four kids, I have a community 204 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: of friends. I am not interested in leaving my house 205 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: and my family to go do a show somewhere, or 206 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: to go do a concert or just play songs like 207 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: that is not if I'm leaving home, and if Taya's 208 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: leaving home, and if Levi's leaving man. We are going 209 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: in the power of God with faith in our hearts 210 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: that every city we go to, He's going to do 211 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: something fresh, something powerful, and we're we're going into each 212 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: city like seeking seeking that out. So we got music, 213 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 2: we got teaching, and I'm sure a couple other surprises. 214 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: Along the way. 215 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: But I hope people will come out and see it 216 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: because we really believe it's going to be a great 217 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: night of worship. 218 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: If you like today's episode, please subscribe and leave a 219 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: five star review. That's how we help more people just 220 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: like you. Find the show. A big thanks to the 221 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: team at life Audio for their partnership with us on 222 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: the podcast. 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