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Speaker 1: Life audio.

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Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that. John rents a haunted Airbnb

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Speaker 2: and ponders podcasting from his deathbed. Meanwhile, I try to

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Speaker 2: be a better listener and discover the terrifying reason I

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Speaker 2: like hotel pillows. Well us a conversation about what real

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Speaker 2: leadership is and what it isn't. Today's episode is not

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Speaker 2: sponsored by Slice Bread. It's the best thing since bread.

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Speaker 2: But first a word from our actual sponsor.

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Speaker 3: Well, happy March to everyone listening. Is talk about that

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Speaker 3: is John and Johnny bring it back around again.

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Speaker 2: Bro, the mark beware.

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Speaker 1: Isn't fifteen ths.

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Speaker 2: Somebody posted a thing and I shared it on my stories.

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Speaker 2: It was like just a reminder that the eydes of

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Speaker 2: March is just employed by a big dagger.

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Speaker 1: To sell more daggers.

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Speaker 2: It's very. It's a very that's kind of a cerebral joke.

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Speaker 2: You got to know about Caesar and Brutus.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, by the eyes of March is fifteenth I

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Speaker 1: was correct, not hey, not that I need the credit.

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Speaker 1: It's a pretty common fourteenth.

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Speaker 2: Is Saint Patrick's day? Those are those always that close together?

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Speaker 1: I thought the seventeenth were Saint Patrick's. Yeah, maybe you're right,

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Speaker 1: Johnny do you. Yeah, so seventeen, do you. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what's going on. We're recording this.

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Speaker 2: Let's still pretty close together.

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Speaker 3: We're recording this a little later than usual, and we're like,

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Speaker 3: we're both No.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna be this is this is gonna be our best,

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Speaker 2: our finest hour.

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Speaker 1: Dude, I had interviews all day on a book thing.

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares. No one cares. But you did your job. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get it. No, we know, we know.

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Speaker 2: Your meeting with very important people and high up places

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Speaker 2: that you can't talk about.

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Speaker 1: I can't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: It was a lot in DA's all around everybody.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot. I learned a lot today, Okay

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Speaker 1: about yourself.

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Speaker 2: No, this guy has a channel on Instagram and I

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Speaker 2: started following today because his basic hook of his channel.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he is. Maybe he's a behavioral

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Speaker 2: therapist or a behavioral therapist, and he basically talks about

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Speaker 2: like social concepts that have kind of gone fallen by

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Speaker 2: preferring one another, like etiquette in conversation and intimacy and etc.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, I'm trying to bring these things back,

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Speaker 2: so we're going to talk about it. But he's not confrontational.

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Speaker 2: He's just like, here's how to have a good conversation.

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Speaker 2: And he had one today that I think I may

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Speaker 2: have shared it, but it was basically like most people

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Speaker 2: don't have conversations. They have dual monologues. You say something

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Speaker 2: it reminds me of something I want to say, and

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Speaker 2: then you say something that reminds you of you. It's

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Speaker 2: not like we're trying to top each other. But he

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Speaker 2: was like, stop yourself from doing it and do these

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Speaker 2: three things. And one of them was like ask a question,

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Speaker 2: like if somebody says my kid, you know me some

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Speaker 2: mad on a plane, they say, oh, I see your thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh my kids in the school play. Oh right, I

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Speaker 2: did the school play when I was that's what meat

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Speaker 2: school play and he didn't really like it. Instead of

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Speaker 2: being like, what's the play? Oh it's a little mermaid.

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Speaker 2: Oh what role did she get? Is she enjoying it?

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Speaker 1: That's cool?

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Speaker 2: That must make you feel so proud, And then tell

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Speaker 1: But we don't do that anymore.

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Speaker 2: We go boom boom, We just trade and I start

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Speaker 2: start thinking like, I don't think I do it on purpose,

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Speaker 2: but I think that's become the way we all. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and then we wonder why we don't have close friendships

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Speaker 2: is because nobody feels really listened to.

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Speaker 1: Maybe and how did that make you feel that? Tim?

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Speaker 2: Actually, what's funny is Tim Hawkins actually posted a bit today.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even put it together until you just said that.

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Speaker 2: But the old joke that he posted today was when

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Speaker 2: you go to therapy. At marriage counseling, they always talk

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Speaker 2: about like when you start feeling things get heated, just

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Speaker 1: I stopped. I asked questions, Babe, why are you being

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Speaker 2: So funny, but I think the key is not to

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Speaker 2: make show them that you're listening.

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Speaker 1: Repeat something back there.

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Speaker 2: I know it feels like a ploy, and especially to

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Speaker 2: people who you want to be your authentic self, you're like.

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Speaker 1: No, this is what I do. I steamroll people.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to have close relationships, you got

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Speaker 2: to stop and be like, is my friendship and my conversational.

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Speaker 1: Etiquette at its best? But I do better.

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Speaker 2: I just want to be a better friend.

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Speaker 3: John Well, I would like that too. I'm just I'm

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Speaker 3: taking you down and I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get a lot of comments on this

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Speaker 2: episode about you guys do this all the time. You

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like, that's your whole show is

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Speaker 4: And one you were saying it like, oh no, that's

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Speaker 4: kind of our it's our vibe. I ask questions, you do,

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Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, when I'm deep into

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Speaker 1: something on my segment, You're like okay and moving on

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Speaker 3: I'm glad this guy brought this up because we have

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Speaker 3: a lot man to unpass.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if one if his dms are open, I

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Speaker 2: need to find out a specific case study.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about this. Listen, I'm gonna send you some clips.

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Speaker 1: He'll be like, I'm not watching these. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: If you have a channel like that, and your whole

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Speaker 2: brand is based on telling people how to listen better.

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Speaker 2: I bet his family just gives him total crap if

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Speaker 2: he's just like you.

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Speaker 1: Know, if he's like and how did that?

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Speaker 2: I wasn't now, or if he doesn't abide by those steps,

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Speaker 2: and one, just one instance, all it takes is his

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Speaker 2: family noticing it, being like, dude, you're steamrolling me.

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Speaker 1: You're not listening, You're not really, That's what's hard.

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Speaker 3: I always struggle to be the mouthpiece of certain things,

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Speaker 3: because then you will be held to a higher standard.

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Speaker 3: There was a pastor who I actually met with one time,

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Speaker 1: Oh wow. And it was like about the very things.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's making that noise? Yeah, you're wrestling

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Speaker 3: And again, I don't know, maybe the things against him

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of the reasons a lot of

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Speaker 1: Right? You know what I mean? Am I?

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Speaker 2: So they just go I stand for nothing because I

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Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of the thing.

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Speaker 3: Like when I wrote on racism, I'll never get the

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Speaker 3: I'm like, man, I can't speak for that whole topic

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Speaker 1: And I don't like if if I had to pick

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Speaker 1: what that noise is or why is that better? Okay?

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Speaker 1: If I just like, if you to pick something you

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Speaker 2: In US history probably maybe, or like theology maybe.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think I don't think I know anything

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Speaker 2: Expert, yeah, but I'm saying you know enough to be

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Speaker 3: If you give me notes and give me time, I

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but like again, that's what's hard about sometimes

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Speaker 1: But did you mind yourself? You're not really an expert.

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Speaker 2: You just learned and won't that some of you all

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Speaker 2: Memes. That's the thing, man, somebody it's expert on memes

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Speaker 3: I rail against like AI to that to that end,

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Speaker 1: But then you're like, yeah, but am I really you

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Speaker 2: Yesterday I did a thing for ONS, which was the

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Speaker 2: Oncology Nurse Society in Paducah, Kentucky. It's the fortieth anniversary.

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Speaker 2: They're doing some very important work, and so like fifty

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Speaker 2: I just ough, I can't imagine. I go, yeah, I said,

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Speaker 2: First of all, it based cheating. Second of all, everybody

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Speaker 2: We watched an episode of a podcast and we're like,

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Speaker 2: I think I got it, but I understand mitosis, you know,

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Speaker 2: And you're like, no, I don't think you do.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to do that with Sadie, Like, hey,

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Speaker 3: because she actually wants to be engaged in like political social.

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Speaker 1: Current events and wants to be engaged to a boy eventually.

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Speaker 3: right about a lot of things, and you're speaking well

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Speaker 1: Also, just tell me what your source was, and she

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Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing with like shoes and boots,

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Speaker 1: No, you know. I take my own pillow. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had our own little pillow.

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Speaker 3: will disagree with what with everything you do all the time? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no matter what you do, twenty percent of the people

442
00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 3: are going are gonna hate it. If you're gonna actually lead, Uh,

443
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,639
Speaker 3: you got to be okay with that. Yeah, And you can't,

444
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 3: you know, you can't be. So it's like this way

445
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 3: of caring about people without only living to please them

446
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,600
Speaker 3: for the sake of what it brings you to the

447
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 3: point of I think a real leader will lead to

448
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 3: the point if it leads them out of their position.

449
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Speaker 1: But was what was best for the people. I think

450
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 1: that's a hard one. Yeah, these days, in the modern world.

451
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it was always hard.

452
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 2: But yeah, because you're always afraid of being accused of

453
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 2: being like a wishy washy person. If you were to

454
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 2: be like I have more information now, yeah, and so

455
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: that would be like he used to be, that would

456
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Speaker 2: be political death.

457
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Speaker 1: Now I don't know. I don't even know if we

458
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 1: have political death anymore.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we don't have moments where like aha, there's

460
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 2: no aha, we just go Yeah, I still like him, right,

461
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm still voting that way.

462
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: He's better than the other guy. You go, is he though, Yeah,

463
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,760
Speaker 1: he showed you what he was. Yeah, I don't know.

464
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, but it does let.

465
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Speaker 3: You know the power of the negative, the negativity bias

466
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 3: we placed towards opponents with with boogeyman language, you know.

467
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: And again someone the other day I was talking and

468
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,879
Speaker 3: they were like, I won't say which party. They're like,

469
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 3: you sound like it, and they named the party and

470
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: I was like that I'm not, And I was like, well,

471
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 3: who told you that? If someone has this one small

472
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Speaker 3: viewpoint or nuance, really it wasn't a viewpoint like just

473
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: I'm just giving a nuanced take that automatically.

474
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Speaker 1: That person has to be this.

475
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's power in that because if you make

476
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Speaker 3: them afraid of that, then there does no matter what

477
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: you do anymore, as long as they're more afraid of

478
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 3: that than they are.

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

480
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I call it like making somebody bite size. You

481
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 2: just like take them down to like this, like they can.

482
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Speaker 2: They can set you aside and be like that's what

483
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Speaker 2: you are. They make you bite size, They just go,

484
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Speaker 2: I don't have to deal with the whole person anymore.

485
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Speaker 1: Okay, we're good man. Yeah.

486
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Speaker 3: Arbager Institute's book The Anatomy of Peace talks about that

487
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Speaker 3: being objectifying. Make someone into an object. If you can

488
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Speaker 3: call them something like stupid or idiot or woke or

489
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 3: right winger or whatever, pick your poison. If I can

490
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Speaker 3: put a late on you that's not Johnny right, or

491
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 3: you're a dad or you're a husband, it dehumanizes you,

492
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: and then I know that dehumanizes even is. I think

493
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Speaker 3: we've heard that so much, with so many accusations of

494
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Speaker 3: quite frankly accusations and using terms that most people don't

495
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 3: I don't mean this because they're dumb, but they just

496
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 3: don't fully know exactly what a fascist is or exactly

497
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Speaker 3: what a socialist is or like, but I can just

498
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 3: throw that on you. And there are some that call

499
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Speaker 3: their opponents both fascistness, like what's kind of hard to

500
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 3: be both actually but.

501
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Speaker 1: Right and it's true.

502
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Speaker 2: And then, I mean, we went through a lot of

503
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Speaker 2: times too where everybody was being called a racist for

504
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Speaker 2: a long time too, you know, saying that there was

505
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Speaker 2: still a lot of that unfair too, you know what

506
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, like like trying to have a take on

507
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Speaker 2: something and everything was like going to be called a

508
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Speaker 2: racist for.

509
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Speaker 1: This or whatever. Well and everything again, the people that

510
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Speaker 1: when I was writing not so Black and White, when

511
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Speaker 1: you're really talking to people actually doing good things in

512
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Speaker 1: those spaces, they don't consider every body a racist, right, It.

513
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Speaker 3: Comes to a place of the accusations easier than working together.

514
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: Now there are people that choose whether it's sexist or

515
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Speaker 3: racist or whatever ways of being in their response even now,

516
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: to defy the label, Oh I'm not scared of you

517
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Speaker 3: calling me.

518
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: There's actual blatant racism out there. That's why I think

519
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 2: it's so important to be careful about throwing that term around.

520
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: Right, because if everybody is then when you need someone

521
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: to actually be.

522
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Speaker 1: It just feels like you're the boy who cried racist.

523
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Speaker 1: So yeah, it's great. It's a weird fable, great quote.

524
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Speaker 1: I like it. John.

525
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Speaker 2: Let's do my segments. Let's start with old jokes. We

526
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: call it joke about that?

527
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Speaker 1: What do we call it again? That's your easiest pitch

528
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Speaker 1: at the whole time.

529
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Speaker 2: After attending ethics training, Bob went up to his boss.

530
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Speaker 1: Boss.

531
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Speaker 2: He said that ethics training has me feeling bad about

532
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Speaker 2: us doing product testing on animals. The boss replies, but Bob,

533
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 2: this is an accepted practice and many shampoo and cosmetics

534
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: manufacturers test their products on animals. Bob responded, yes, but

535
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Speaker 2: we make hammers.

536
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: That's dark. That's really dark. John Bono and the Edge

537
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: walk into a bar.

538
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 2: The bartender says, not you too again, Okay, uh sorry,

539
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Speaker 2: And finally, johnn a young man, I like a lot

540
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 2: of these are a lot of walk into places. A

541
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Speaker 2: young man walks into a supermarket buys a bar of soap,

542
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Speaker 2: a toothbrush, toothpaste, a loaf of bread, a container of milk,

543
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Speaker 2: two boxes of cereal, and a frozen dinner. The girl

544
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Speaker 2: at the cash register looks at him and says, single huh,

545
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Speaker 2: The man replies, very sarcastically. How'd you guess? She says,

546
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Speaker 2: because you're ugly?

547
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Speaker 3: By the way, I had an idea. It's not quite

548
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Speaker 3: a segment.

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but occasionally is it called because you're ugly? I

550
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: come up with a really stupid punchline. Yeah, and I

551
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: need you to write a joke around in the moment,

552
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 1: though it takes some time. Yeah, but like I I

553
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: want a joke right that. The ending is.

554
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: Poncious pilates. Now, it's got a lot that you're gonna

555
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: have to really work hard.

556
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

557
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Speaker 2: All right, Pilates, Come on, Johnny punches pilates. Uh something

558
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: about take up your mat and walk.

559
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.

560
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: I don't know either, but it would it make me

561
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: laugh if there was a joke that ended with that.

562
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Speaker 3: So I just laughed anyway, not knowing how even it works,

563
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: but I just like I like wordplays.

564
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: Anyway, I do too.

565
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, man walks into a barapus. Okay, john let's do

566
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Speaker 2: this week in history. We call it talk about that. Wait,

567
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Speaker 2: that's not what we call it. My segments are? We

568
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Speaker 2: call it talk about then? Man, We're never going to

569
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: record this late in the day, and I'm again, I

570
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Speaker 2: promise y'all we're gonna do better.

571
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Speaker 1: I'm not off. We'll fix all this now. It's gonna

572
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Speaker 1: be great.

573
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Speaker 2: We're not fixing anything John. This week nineteen twenty seven,

574
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Speaker 2: the first armored car robbery members of the Flathead Gang, which, Wow,

575
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 2: come on, y'all, you're going to be in a gang.

576
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Speaker 3: They were actually brothers to the Phillips Head Gang, but

577
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Speaker 3: they were.

578
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: As a whole different thing. Yeah.

579
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Speaker 2: They dynamited a Brinks armored car en route outside of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

580
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Speaker 2: make off with one hundred four thousand, over two million

581
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Speaker 2: dollars in today's money.

582
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Speaker 1: Wow.

583
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Speaker 2: One of the guards noted the license played to the

584
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Speaker 2: getaway car, and several members of the gang were arrested

585
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Speaker 2: the following day, including gang leader Paul Jaworski. He pleaded

586
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Speaker 2: guilty to two murders committed during previous robberies and was

587
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Speaker 2: sentenced to death. However, the following August, he and another

588
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 2: inmate shot their way out of jail okay woanning two

589
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Speaker 2: guards in the process.

590
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Speaker 1: Blah blah blah.

591
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Speaker 2: Jawarski was executed in January of nineteen twenty nine. I

592
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: wanted to think about that. I wanted this make this

593
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Speaker 2: list because I was like, how did they get guns

594
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Speaker 2: in jail?

595
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Speaker 1: Yeah? And why would you plead guilty if you're gonna

596
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Speaker 1: get the death penalty anyway? Shot his way out at

597
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Speaker 1: least try.

598
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Speaker 2: He reminded me of a story that I've tried to

599
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Speaker 2: make a joke out of it, and I've done it

600
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Speaker 2: a few times. I need to just keep working on it.

601
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Speaker 2: But it was about a guy who was so fat

602
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Speaker 2: that his brother snuck him in a gun and he

603
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: hid it under a fat roll. Yeah, and then he

604
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: shot his way out, yeah, of jail or it was

605
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Speaker 2: a thing. Now that's from the Bible. You're right, that's

606
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 2: one of the judges or the king, the evil King

607
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 2: in the Book of Judges. But it made me think, like,

608
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: was he fat before? That's the part of that. Did

609
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: he get that fat? Because I got to get this plan,

610
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 2: like he calls and he goes tonight's night, and he goes,

611
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm not fat enough. And then and then my punchline

612
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: was that's the kind of guy that when you're sneaking

613
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: in the cake, you know, with the the file inside

614
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: of it, inside of it, is actually another cake because you're.

615
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: Just trying so dumb. That's good. And then I think

616
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: somebody gave me the tag.

617
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 2: You should see where he put the getaway car.

618
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Speaker 1: Ridiculous good anyway, all right, John? This week?

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Speaker 2: This week eighteen eighty eight, the Great White Hurricane, which

620
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Speaker 2: was my nickname when I was fat, one of the

621
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Speaker 2: most famous snowstorms in US history. It killed four hundred

622
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Speaker 2: people and created a fifty foot snow drift. It lasted

623
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Speaker 2: for four days, with snowfalls up to fifty eight inches

624
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 2: in Saratoga Springs, New York. The destruction of telegraph lines

625
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: led to their being placed underground in the future, so

626
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: and I had underground power lines in my neighborhood. It's

627
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: one of the reasons the ice storm did not make

628
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: us lose power. Wow, underground POWERLEL.

629
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Speaker 1: Fancy. I didn't think that did that anywhere in Tennessee.

630
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: What underground peril? Yeah, evidently it's in my subdivision. There's

631
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Speaker 2: underground POWERLEL.

632
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: I can't hide money.

633
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: But it still could have been affected by one of

634
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: the major transformers that was connected to it. I guess

635
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: they're still on the group with somebody, but for now,

636
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: until I get my own.

637
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: You know, would you cover the back of your roof

638
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: with solar panels and get off the grid? I don't

639
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: think so.

640
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: I think the thing about solar that and maybe I'm

641
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 2: just being uneducated about it. I'm not an expert about

642
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: solar but you just read these things that say like

643
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: they take so long to pay for themselves, and then

644
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 2: that the panels are outdated by the time you get

645
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Speaker 2: to that.

646
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a whole thing. He just needs some

647
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: more work, right, We're not there yet. I had a

648
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 4: quote one time, sixty grand. Yeah, and I was like,

649
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: do you know for you to save me, say two

650
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: undred dollars a month?

651
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, how long it.

652
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: Would take for me to make up the cost of this.

653
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: And then yes, the equipment is horribly expensive.

654
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: And then it gets outdated, it comes whatever you call it.

655
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, he did it because John's like, like, I

656
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: got to get rid of this sixty grand somehow I'm

657
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: laundering money over here. John born this week, nineteen seventy one,

658
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: Tennessee's own Johnny Knoxville, Okay.

659
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: Born in my hometown. Actual name Philip John Clap PJ. Clap.

660
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Speaker 1: That's a good change.

661
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good His dad was ran the

662
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Speaker 2: Clap Automotive. He was an auto repair shop.

663
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Speaker 1: They didn't Collee, I can't clap Clapp Clap.

664
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Speaker 2: American stunt performer, actor, producer, Screenwriter's best known as a

665
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: co creator and star of MTV reality stunt show which

666
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: will go unnamed because everybody knows the name and will

667
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Speaker 2: it get a sense?

668
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't know.

669
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: We're on Life Audio, but you know the show if

670
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: you know. Johnny Knoxville and it's subsequent movies. He's out

671
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 2: there still. He's doing Fear Factor now, the reboot of

672
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: Fear Factor, which who could be a better choice than

673
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: Johnny Knoxville. He let his hair go gray, which I admire.

674
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: He's just like, you know what, I'm going to be

675
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: an old guy that's doing this weird stuff.

676
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: Now.

677
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't you know, when you see an old guy

678
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: doing crazy stuff, it is a little more jarring. You're like,

679
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: this feels like it's time that you should know about

680
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: to break a hip.

681
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: Be careful out there.

682
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: Also born this Week nineteen forty eight, James Taylor, American

683
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: Grammy winning singer You've Got a Friend nineteen seventy one,

684
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: number one and Grammy and he wrote the lyrics for

685
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: Fire and Rain. I didn't know all of this, but

686
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: he wrote the lyrics for Fire and Rain after his

687
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: friend Suzanne Schneer committed suicide by jumping in front of

688
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 2: a New York subway train in nineteen sixty eight. Think

689
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: about the lyrics. It says he was in London recording

690
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: at the time. His band members did not tell him

691
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: of her death until later so as not to distract

692
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: him from the recording sessions.

693
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: Which that's kind of a tough time. Vision.

694
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: But I'm not sure the lyrics fron Range Just yesterday morning,

695
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: they'd let me know you were gone, Suzanne. The plans

696
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: they made put an end to you. Yeah, I've seen

697
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: fire and Rain. I've seen sunny days that I thought

698
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: would never end. Carol King, I didn't know this part.

699
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: This is kind of a fun footnote. Carol King wrote

700
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: her song You've Got a Friend in response to the

701
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: line I've seen lonely times when I could not find

702
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: a friend, and then he ended up recording that. Wait,

703
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: so you've got got a friend? You've got a friend

704
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: was Carol King, but she wrote it for him in

705
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: response to Wow, and she recorded it as well. Do

706
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: a live for Iron Raint, Yeah, and that's kind of

707
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: a fun, musical little friendship and kind of somebody reaching

708
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: out and saying yeah again. It's active listening, it's conversational.

709
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: It's like it's kind of like how ponscious pilates is

710
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: going to be your best joke someday.

711
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: And we were like, you know, you won't believe how

712
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: this came about. John.

713
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: This week eighteen ninety four, Coca Cola was first served

714
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: in bottles. The soft drink Coca Cola was invented by

715
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: John S. Pemberton and eighteen eighty six, who called it

716
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: quote esteamed brain tonic and intellectual beverage. Again, these are

717
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: good changes changed. It's all like, hey, can I get

718
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: one of those? Can I get a six pack of

719
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: the old esteamed brain tonic and intellectual beverage six pack?

720
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: Isn't that awful?

721
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: Uh? But yees?

722
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: So I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan of

723
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: co col You're a coke zero man that I'm not.

724
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: I would either want a regular coke, which I haven't

725
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: had in ages, because you just I can't do it.

726
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: I'd be three hundred pounds again no time. If I

727
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: drink as much coke as I drink diet coke. I'm

728
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: a diet coke man, even though I know it's just

729
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: full of chemicals, but come on, yeah.

730
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: We do. We do what we got.

731
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Probably water's got chemicals in it too, That's all right, John. Finally,

732
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: this week in nineteen ninety four, the Lockness Monster hoax.

733
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: The famous nineteen thirty four surgeon's photo of the lockness monster,

734
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: which is the one everybody sees, the little black and

735
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: white green almost looks like a finger coming out of

736
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: the water.

737
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: But she're like, is it done?

738
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: Reportedly taken by Colonel Robert Wilson, is called a hoax

739
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: in a deathbed confession by Chris Sperling, who claimed he

740
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: helped create the photo. Wow, so he carried it all

741
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 2: the way to his deathbed in nineteen ninety four, at

742
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: which point he revealed it's a hoax.

743
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Do you have anything that you would.

744
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: Say on your deathbed, like, because you want to have

745
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: famous last words, would you be like, hey, sorry about

746
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wish i'd listen to Johnnymore.

747
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Tell Johnny I'm sorry. I'll be like, what did it mean?

748
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm just be haunted by it. Tell him I'm sorry

749
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: I stole his nuts. Die.

750
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know what it was used to be

751
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: the big gag as you say, like I buried the

752
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: money in the.

753
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: Just as a gag. Seriously, I'll bury the money. And no,

754
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 1: it's I don't think you're gonna have any regrets.

755
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: I think you're going to be that guy because you say,

756
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: you say too much, you're too aware of any tension

757
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: in a relationship, so you go the extra mile.

758
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: I try anything.

759
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: You make it weirder by being that guy. That's like overapologizing.

760
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: I have a couple of things in my life where

761
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 3: I have not been able to resolve them, and that's

762
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: been like an exercise in reality and also that I

763
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: can't I think through some therapy, like I'm sorry, I

764
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: can only own my fifty percent of this because in

765
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: my old days I would have owned all one hundred

766
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: to make peace, and now I'm like, yeah, I can't

767
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: do That's not good for either one of us. Don't

768
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: mind being wrong. I'm not surprised when I'm wrong, you know.

769
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 3: But we have to mutually meet somewhere in the middle,

770
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: you know so, And that's why I've called you back

771
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 3: to the podcast again today.

772
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 2: John is his deathbed right now and I wanted this

773
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: is his final had some weird pains, that'd be a

774
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: weird part of a weird part of the That's when

775
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: you know like we're through the looking glass as a culture.

776
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: If somebody wants to podcast from their deathbed, you're like, we.

777
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: Need to get this, hunt Ae. This will be great

778
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: for ratings.

779
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: Try.

780
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: We got sponsors.

781
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: It's the A one Greens, But I don't know if

782
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: it's going to work out. We can't say it's a

783
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 2: health tonic if we're on our death beds.

784
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: These work. I swear, guys, please every day all you do,

785
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't know.

786
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: Well anyway, have a coke and a smile today, people,

787
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 2: Yeah on me celebrate the anniversary of Coca Cola and

788
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: bottles by going and having one. Do you like the

789
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: ones with the real sugar, the cane sugar. I think

790
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: they call the Mexican cokes because they're the ones that

791
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 2: still have the.

792
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: You don't like them?

793
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: I like them, but I want you're not freaking out.

794
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: Over coke zero manow cozier tastes like coke. I know

795
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? You want a coke that tastes

796
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: different than real coke. It tastes like garbage. I want

797
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: to coke. It tastes like real coke. Coke zero tastes

798
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: like flat coke, is what it does not taste like.

799
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, if.

800
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 2: I gave you a drink of real coke and then

801
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: you drink coke zero, you'd be like, what, I don't think.

802
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: So this is something we need to do. We need

803
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: to do a taste test on the air, and you'd be.

804
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: Like I was, I mean, diet you could pick out

805
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 3: because I gotta do is you know, pay attention to

806
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: whose face is snarled for the horrible, horrible taste.

807
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so refreshing. Although I am a doctor, pepper

808
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 2: zero man, that's my that's my true drink. But you

809
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: just can't get that everywhere. So in restaurant A lot

810
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: of times I'll have a die coke. Yeah, you can't

811
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: get a restaurant.

812
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: DP zero sugar. Man.

813
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: They're not a sponsor, but they should be. If they

814
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: ever wanted to send us a few twelve backs, Well,

815
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 2: let me tell you, I.

816
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Would put one right here every show and I would

817
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: be drinking drinking it like nobody's watching, except they would

818
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: be so well listening anyway.

819
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, you guys should check out Johnny's website at

820
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: jo in niew dot com.

821
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: Listen, guys, my Live and Laughing tour is headed to

822
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: a city near you. And I wanted to say March

823
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: nineteenth will be in Destined. March twentieth we will be

824
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: in hold On Tallahassee is one of those dates. I

825
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: think that's the twenty first, twenty second we're in Gadsden, Alabama. Oh,

826
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: Pampao Beach, Florida is the twentieth of March. So please

827
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: get those tickets at JOHNNYW dot com.

828
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: You're dropping the bus. Come on out.

829
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: We're taking the bus and we're My buddy Brian Bates

830
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: is out with us from Nateland Fame. Yeah, one of

831
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 2: my great friends. And then Ed Wiley is out with us,

832
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: another good friend of money.

833
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: Guys.

834
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: These are fun shows. Yeah, these are fun and I'm excited.

835
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: It's just going to be us out there having the time.

836
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: So and I'm bringing scooters on the bus this week,

837
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: so we're gonna be scooting around our little lime scooters.

838
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: This is the first bus run where I'm putting those

839
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: under the bus. Be fun, be three fifty year olds

840
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: out here. Yeah, that's waiting to be broken.

841
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: No, we're good.

842
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: We have incredible balance. I can't believe it.

843
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: I can't believe it. That's no, Yeah, you shouldn't believe it.

844
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: You can check out more episodes too at talk about

845
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 3: that podcast dot com.

846
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: If you want to send us a message, you just

847
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: fire an email too.

848
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 2: Hello, talk about that podcast dot com.

849
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of episodes. In fact, I'm just

850
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: looking here three ninety. This is three nine.

851
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 1: Oh wow, this is three nine, guys, and nothing's gonna

852
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: happen at four hundred. It's anywhere. Well, but we're gonna

853
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: get We're gonna get the live one in place. Maybe

854
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: if I go out on the weekend with you, that'd

855
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: be a good place to do. We could record that

856
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: would be really fun. Yeah, we could make it a

857
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: little VIP.

858
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: Event as a part of the show, be like, hey,

859
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: do you guys want to stay back and do this

860
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: with us?

861
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd be like, we gotta get we got places

862
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: to be going. We thought this show was for.

863
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: Well, for food, and then they'll stay. We'll do like

864
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: a catered meal.

865
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: It's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you said

866
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: cadd because we're not cooking. No.

867
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: Sorry, Well, guys, thanks the time you gave to Day.

868
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: It was a lot of fun. Let's do it again

869
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: next week.

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Speaker 1: You're on