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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett
Speaker 3: in today joined by Blake Neff in the other seat.
Speaker 3: We got lots to get to today. We're gonna be
Speaker 3: joined by Mark Halprin in the second half of this hour.
Speaker 3: Help us make sense of some of the Susie Wiles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that just came out out of nowhere, out of
Speaker 4: faces some hype for but this was just sort of
Speaker 4: there it is, dropped it and surprised everybody this morning.
Speaker 3: Lots of interesting quotes, I think it's safe to say so.
Speaker 3: There's lots of speculation about what this means. Is she
Speaker 3: on her way out? Is did they think this was
Speaker 3: a book interview? Lots of fascinating stuff. Obviously, this is
Speaker 3: Amfest Week, So America Fest is coming to Phoenix the eighteenth,
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty and twenty first right at the Phoenix Convention Center.
Speaker 3: All the biggest names, all the biggest speakers. It's going
Speaker 3: to be a wild couple days. I was hoping I
Speaker 3: was gonna get a out of sleep last night, Blake,
Speaker 3: and for some reason, like I woke up at four
Speaker 3: and I tried to go back to sleep. Whoops, didn't happen.
Speaker 3: So that's not a good sign for Amfest week and
Speaker 3: Fest week. You need to have all your energy all
Speaker 3: your sleep, your hydration, well nourished, all the.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe you could pull a pull a Charlie and
Speaker 4: have one of those like min Yeah, yeah, day he
Speaker 4: got into a high performance.
Speaker 3: He was he was a ferrari of a human being.
Speaker 3: So there's that. Uh. And then we're gonna have Yile
Speaker 3: Exstein to reflect on the Hanukkah massacre in Bondai Beach, Australia,
Speaker 3: which is still a tragedy we need to make sense of.
Speaker 3: And then we're gonna have Kurt Schlickter. We're gonna have
Speaker 3: a gun discussion. We're also gonna talk about should we
Speaker 3: nuke the filibuster. Mark wyn Mullen made some big news
Speaker 3: yesterday by just basically coming out in favor of it.
Speaker 3: A gun discussion and a nuke discussion. Yes, lots of
Speaker 3: weapons and yeah, and there's also this compact article we've
Speaker 3: got to find some pass w went viral. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: very compact magazine. It's called the Lost Generation one eighty four.
Speaker 3: If you want to throw it up, it'll be a
Speaker 3: little teas. I don't think we're ready to get into
Speaker 3: it just yet, but one eighty four. So it's the
Speaker 3: it's gonna call it the Lost Generation. It's all about
Speaker 3: how there's basically been a whole group of millennials that
Speaker 3: are about forty.
Speaker 4: If you are a millennial, if you are a young
Speaker 4: white millennial male, you've basically gone through, let's just say it,
Speaker 4: a modern day quasi Jim Crow in industry after industry
Speaker 4: where you were systematically excluded and they all got screwed.
Speaker 4: Y are some of the people those are? I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess gen z is who Charlie cared about the most.
Speaker 4: But so many of the people who were saying are
Speaker 4: disasters who haven't married, haven't settled down. There are these
Speaker 4: people who just spent their entire twenty five to forty range.
Speaker 4: They got hit by the Great Recession, and then just
Speaker 4: let's just say it systematic discrimination in American life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess we're getting into it.
Speaker 3: I guess we are. We are getting into it. I mean,
Speaker 3: we are gonna bring HOL'USI wild, Yeah, we're talking about
Speaker 3: Whiles with him. But but I mean, listen, it's if
Speaker 3: you're turning i'd say, priabe between if you're between the
Speaker 3: ages like thirty five and forty five, this probably could
Speaker 3: have affected you, right, And if you're thirty thirty, thirty
Speaker 3: to forty five, you know, And we rage against the
Speaker 3: marriage rates, we rage against the low fertility rates. Let
Speaker 3: we rage against the fact that home ownership has the
Speaker 3: average meeting new home buyer is at like forty years old.
Speaker 3: We talk about all these ills, but what is really
Speaker 3: driving down the average. It's these commissars of wokeness that
Speaker 3: came in right around.
Speaker 4: That's actually not who the article blames. It's not the
Speaker 4: commissars of wokeness necessarily. All right, this is the interesting thing.
Speaker 3: So just so you guys, I think it's connected.
Speaker 4: So you can look this all up again. It's the
Speaker 4: Lost Generation. It's a very long article on Compact magazine.
Speaker 4: This was a huge number of personalities on X we're
Speaker 4: discussing this. It's gonna be one of the most read articles.
Speaker 3: Of the year.
Speaker 4: On the right, Jacobs by Jacob Savage, who is a
Speaker 4: writer based in Los Angeles, and he tells his own story.
Speaker 4: He was trying to become a TV or film writer
Speaker 4: in Los Angeles, which that's long been a job. A
Speaker 4: ton of young white guys get did you want to
Speaker 4: go there trying to be a writer?
Speaker 3: I was trying to be a right, you have no
Speaker 3: idea how like internalized all of this was exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: So that's a job a ton of I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: artsy young men.
Speaker 4: They want to be a lot of them want to
Speaker 4: be journalists, some of them want to be film writers,
Speaker 4: some of them want to go into academia. And it's
Speaker 4: really focused on those art you know, the industry.
Speaker 3: Is what's interesting though, as somebody to live this a
Speaker 3: little bit, it wasn't really artsy young men. It's really analytical,
Speaker 3: sharp minded. That's the people that are driven to go
Speaker 3: into the writing and producing fields. They're there. If they
Speaker 3: were in a different city, they would have been you know, engineers.
Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. It's like the same thing. It's the
Speaker 3: same profile. These are like wells get hit. So it's
Speaker 3: pro focusing on especially those slightly more creative fields or academia.
Speaker 4: It's a creative journalism, arts, creativity, and how around twenty
Speaker 4: fourteen you start getting the woke bubble, which is, you know,
Speaker 4: you need more diversity in all things.
Speaker 3: You need to have more women, women of color, people
Speaker 3: of color.
Speaker 4: It's the line they had. It reminds us of things
Speaker 4: that were viral a decade ago. That people have forgotten.
Speaker 4: Like there was a thing called Oscar's so White.
Speaker 3: It was a hashtag. We still have hashtag campaigns. Before
Speaker 3: they bought X he got rid of the hashtags. They
Speaker 3: got Chris Rock to host the Oscars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Oscars so white was just everyone nominated for
Speaker 4: the acting the major acting categories was white that year.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: And so suddenly there was just this demand you need
Speaker 4: to have diversity.
Speaker 3: And what it points out.
Speaker 4: Again and again is the boomers and Gen xers. There's
Speaker 4: all these older, older white men who actually are already
Speaker 4: established in fields, and they just froze it in amber.
Speaker 4: And so what it became was they would just have
Speaker 4: everyone beneath them would be used to hit those diversity metrics.
Speaker 4: So it's not, oh, we're going to increase diversity by
Speaker 4: making fifteen percent of the established people leave and replace them.
Speaker 4: It's we're going to just categorically elimin eight young white
Speaker 4: men from the pipeline.
Speaker 3: For all of these jobs. And that's exactly it turns
Speaker 3: out exactly.
Speaker 4: What it looks like, all of these people who are
Speaker 4: wanted to go into these fields, they just could not
Speaker 4: get jobs in them at all.
Speaker 3: And you really think what.
Speaker 4: Sort of impact that has to be on one psychology,
Speaker 4: which I know people who have gone through that.
Speaker 3: I can absolutely say, very certainly, I experienced just this.
Speaker 3: I experienced just this when I was living in LA
Speaker 3: where just it was common just to say, oh, well,
Speaker 3: too bad, you're you're a white guy. Like you know,
Speaker 3: it would this would be a lot easier if you
Speaker 3: if you had something we could throw out there, like
Speaker 3: are you gay? I'm not even kidding they say that,
Speaker 3: they mentioned being gay.
Speaker 4: They always will have something need, they'll be something, they'll
Speaker 4: have like some.
Speaker 3: American Indian ancestry. They pulled the Live Warren and I
Speaker 3: was I was literally like, no, I'm a white heterosexual Christian. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they're like sorry, good luck.
Speaker 4: And then the number is in here. It's worth reading
Speaker 4: just for all of the numbers. In twenty eleven, fourteen
Speaker 4: years ago, white men were forty eight percent of low
Speaker 4: level TV writers. In twenty twenty four, thirteen years later,
Speaker 4: they were eleven point nine percent.
Speaker 3: That's dramatic. In let's see, editorial staff went from fifty
Speaker 3: three percent white and eight or fifty three percent male
Speaker 3: and eighty nine percent white in twenty thirteen to thirty
Speaker 3: six six percent male and sixty six percent white tenure.
Speaker 4: Track faculty at Harvard thirty nine percent white men in
Speaker 4: the humanities to eighteen percent. And when that means is
Speaker 4: if you're dropping that much and you're not cutting off
Speaker 4: the people who are in early, it's that it's a
Speaker 4: total cut off at the bottom. Yeah, and so you
Speaker 4: just took a group white men. There's still about twenty
Speaker 4: five percent of young American adults a little bit more
Speaker 4: even twenty five to thirty percent. And let's be frank
Speaker 4: they're a pretty talented thirty percent. They're more likely to
Speaker 4: complete college, more likely to develop a lot of skills
Speaker 4: than some other groups that have been favored in America
Speaker 4: the last decade. And yet they're just treated as practical
Speaker 4: untouchables in a huge number of fields. And it's bad
Speaker 4: for them. It's totally derailed their lives because if you
Speaker 4: were subject of this discrimination for the past five years,
Speaker 4: ten years, that ruins your career. That's the period where
Speaker 4: you need to get off the ground and you're just
Speaker 4: stuck in entry level stuff. And on top of that,
Speaker 4: it fried American meritocracy. But why are TV shows so bad?
Speaker 4: Maybe because they didn't hire good writers to do it.
Speaker 4: Why is z academia so roden because they hired only
Speaker 4: people who filled a racial checkbox instead of the best scholars.
Speaker 3: Over and over they do that.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure our viewers are listeners, they may have
Speaker 4: lived this themselves. Or if you're a parent, you may
Speaker 4: have seen your son struggle through this because he couldn't
Speaker 4: get a foot in the door anywhere and it wasn't
Speaker 4: really his fault.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I And not to mention we talk about student
Speaker 3: loans pushing off family formation or whatever, right buying a home. Well,
Speaker 3: if you can't even get into the job market, if
Speaker 3: you can't start the career to get up to the
Speaker 3: rungs of power to earn more money, then that's why
Speaker 3: marriage rates are going to collapse. That's why fertility rates
Speaker 3: are going to collapse. I'm sorry, but white men still
Speaker 3: make up a huge portion of the of the country.
Speaker 4: The line they're using lost generation Anthony one of our listeners' emails,
Speaker 4: he says, I am a millennial and we're often called
Speaker 4: a lost generation. Millennials got lost and pushed aside.
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Speaker 4: In a loss generation. I think that's actually the way
Speaker 4: we link it with the Swedes story, because that's a
Speaker 4: good point. Charlie would talk about this. There's this real
Speaker 4: sense of compared to a lot of drugs, marijuana, whether
Speaker 4: you support leading it or not, there's this big Charlie
Speaker 4: would talk about this, it's a drug that sort of
Speaker 4: dulls the ambitions, dulls the mind. There is, for a
Speaker 4: good reason, a strong association with between being a really
Speaker 4: heavy marijuana user and just being kind of a loser.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'll never forget. When I was going
Speaker 3: back to my LA days, I remember I met this
Speaker 3: one guy, believe it or not, he was a worship leader,
Speaker 3: Oh wow, and he was an avid marijuana user. But
Speaker 3: he was like, if I don't use it, I will
Speaker 3: get massively depressed. And he would he acknowledged I he has,
Speaker 3: he had an addiction, he had a problem. I just thought,
Speaker 3: why would you ever want to be stuck on something
Speaker 3: that has so much mastery over you? You know, and
Speaker 3: and anyways, But a couple of things that we need
Speaker 3: to sort of establish here. If you are find yourself
Speaker 3: of a certain generation and you and you still think,
Speaker 3: you know, weed's fine, It's not the worst thing. Modern
Speaker 3: weed is not at all what like you know, the
Speaker 3: hippie era weed. It's stronger stuff, stronger, way more potent,
Speaker 3: way more potent. Uh So let's do it this way. Actually,
Speaker 3: I'm going to give Trump some credit here, h This
Speaker 3: is Trump on fentanyl, and he is a thousand percent
Speaker 3: spot on play cut one sixty five.
Speaker 5: Today, I'm taking one more step to protect Americans from
Speaker 5: the scourge of deadly fentanyl flooding into our country with
Speaker 5: this historic executive order I will sign today. We're formerly
Speaker 5: classedifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, which is
Speaker 5: what it is. No bomb does what this is doing.
Speaker 5: Two hundred to three hundred thousand people die every year
Speaker 5: that we know. So we're formally classifying fentanyl as a
Speaker 5: weapon of mass destruction.
Speaker 3: Weapon I mean listen, it's a funny classification. It's a
Speaker 3: funny classification, but candidly, you know, and we used to
Speaker 3: talk about this with Charlie all the time. The drug
Speaker 3: epidemic kills more people than Ukraine, or kills more Americans
Speaker 3: than you know, basically anything. I'm just thinking about how
Speaker 3: that classification.
Speaker 4: I have to imagine that means if you're transporting like
Speaker 4: fentonal ingredients, they can just throw you in prison for.
Speaker 3: Life or bomb your boat.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, attempting to make weapons and mass destruction
Speaker 4: is a super duper federal.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But here's here's the other side of the drug
Speaker 3: news today, which is interesting. We have so much drug news.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: CNN says that President Trump is considering, uh well, changing
Speaker 3: the classification of weed. I think is the right way
Speaker 3: to say it. Some are saying legalize marijuana. I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly he said. He said himself, he's considering.
Speaker 4: He was asked in the Oval Office for He says,
Speaker 4: we're considering it, and it would be a reclassification from
Speaker 4: Schedule one, I believe to Schedule three. Right, Schedule one
Speaker 4: is sort of the most restricted, most controlled drugs. The
Speaker 4: other stuff on it. Uh, there's stuff like heroin, meth
Speaker 4: those are schedule one drugs. Schedule three in comparison is ketamine, steroids, testosterone, what.
Speaker 3: You would say, ketamine, it's on the list in the
Speaker 3: hill in the hills are We'll get to that.
Speaker 4: Indeed, but Charlie thought a lot about this, and it
Speaker 4: was one of the controversial things he said at least
Speaker 4: once multiple times. I think that this is one of
Speaker 4: his positions that got him the most pushback on campus,
Speaker 4: more than his abortion views, which is he just he
Speaker 4: opposed legalizing weed. A lot of young people I really
Speaker 4: like it, but I think I do. At the same time,
Speaker 4: I think the tide is shifting a bit. I think
Speaker 4: we probably reached peak marijuana enthusiasm.
Speaker 3: We had that win in Florida.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Maybe let's let's play the clip here on two. His
Speaker 3: is from CNN.
Speaker 7: The President could use in fact against his Democratic opposition
Speaker 7: and say, hey, you know what, Democrats have talked the talk,
Speaker 7: but I'm actually gonna walk the walk when it comes
Speaker 7: to legalizing marijuana.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what are the prediction markets saying about the chances?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 8: Here?
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so what's the chance that this actually happens?
Speaker 7: I think there's a pretty gosh darn good chance it's
Speaker 7: gonna happen at least the corner of the prediction markets.
Speaker 7: So the chance that the US reschedule is marijuana before
Speaker 7: the end of Trump's term.
Speaker 4: Look at this, eighty eight percent know it's funny because
Speaker 4: you see seventy two percent of young people approve of it.
Speaker 4: Maybe they do, but I just I hope it changes
Speaker 4: because you can smell it here in Phoenix. You can
Speaker 4: smell it a ton if you're in DC. It's really disgusting.
Speaker 4: It's a big driver of making public places feel dirtier.
Speaker 4: It's a much more rank smell than even cigarette smoke
Speaker 4: was in the past. I think Charlie had very good
Speaker 4: reason to dislike it. Yeah, so I'm hoping people they
Speaker 4: don't reclassify it.
Speaker 3: We have a clip from Charlie that I wish we
Speaker 3: could have got to, but it's I listen, I think
Speaker 3: I think the prediction markets are probably right. Yeah, Trump
Speaker 3: seeing a political opportunity, But listen, sometimes we disagree with
Speaker 3: the president. I remember Charlie was actually asked by our
Speaker 3: next guest, Mark Alburn, what do you disagree with on
Speaker 3: the president? And he said weed yeah, so you know it. Listen,
Speaker 3: we still disagree. I think it's a loser drug. I
Speaker 3: get it why people try and bend their rationale to
Speaker 3: make it something less than that. I'm telling you modern weed,
Speaker 3: especially when you take it young, could really cause mental illness.
Speaker 4: It's a drug you could argue legalize it if you're
Speaker 4: after thirty or something because it really cooks a developing
Speaker 4: Yes it.
Speaker 3: Does, and so do not take it lightly. We're also
Speaker 3: going to have a debate on weed. I'm going to
Speaker 3: be moderating it at amfests, So Alex Barentson and the
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Speaker 3: weed clip from Charlie. I wanted to play it earlier,
Speaker 3: we didn't get to it one ninety three.
Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the youth side of it. This
Speaker 2: is a very important thing because you might say, but Charlie,
Speaker 2: if we legalize it, it's all just going to be
Speaker 2: parents that have to just parent their kids. Who are
Speaker 2: you to say that if an adult wants to just
Speaker 2: be able to get high, they should not be able
Speaker 2: to get high.
Speaker 3: It sounds good.
Speaker 2: That is an oversimplification of the society we are living in. Firstly,
Speaker 2: in legalized states, the perception of marijuana's harm among teenagers
Speaker 2: fell by over twenty percent in ten years from the
Speaker 2: Monitoring Monitoring the Future survey, making early initiation more likely.
Speaker 3: How about traffic deaths.
Speaker 2: After Colorado legalized, marijuana related traffic fatalities road rose one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one percent between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Let's do one ninety four as well.
Speaker 2: Heavy weed users are sixty percent more likely to miss
Speaker 2: work seventy five percent more likely to show poor job performance,
Speaker 2: according to the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicines. Let
Speaker 2: me put pause. If we want to defeat the Chinese,
Speaker 2: is more drug use better or worse? If we want
Speaker 2: to go to Mars, If we want to build great things,
Speaker 2: if we want to start new companies, if more employees
Speaker 2: are using weed, does that make us stronger or weaker?
Speaker 3: I'm with Charlie on all this. I am it's he
Speaker 3: really was. He was upgrading his message on that more
Speaker 3: and more. You got to understand there, It's like our
Speaker 3: whole society, the structures that keep it up, the institutions,
Speaker 3: the morals, the values is you keep whittling away at
Speaker 3: these things, even if it's on the edges, Eventually that
Speaker 3: gets to the core. And we're seeing that across all
Speaker 3: of our culture.
Speaker 4: Think about what we talked about at the start with
Speaker 4: that article, all the young men just being excluded from
Speaker 4: every career and our fix is okay, Well, you can
Speaker 4: now have legal weed and legal gambling and legal every
Speaker 4: other addiction ever and just stay doped up, don't care
Speaker 4: that much.
Speaker 3: Please don't overthrow, play video games, get high, vape, and
Speaker 3: gamble all your money away that you don't have because
Speaker 3: you don't have a job. Sounds like a good recipe
Speaker 3: for success. Yeah.
Speaker 2: By the way, the studies are incredible. Heavy marijuana use
Speaker 2: is linked to five times higher risk of psychosis and
Speaker 2: young adults from the Lance in Psychiatry twenty nineteen Colorado
Speaker 2: er visits for cannabis and do psychosis trippled right after legalization.
Speaker 2: And by the way, there's another study in addition the
Speaker 2: one that Blake sent me of an average drop of
Speaker 2: eight IQ points by the Dundon and study in p
Speaker 2: NAS twenty twelve.
Speaker 4: See I miss that you're just feeding Charlie's studies. Blake,
Speaker 4: get me stuff on weed? Yeah, get him stuff on weed.
Speaker 4: We just start rattling on air exactly. I mean I
Speaker 4: just completely agree now. Now, so let's just be very
Speaker 4: clear about what is actually you know, So what's happening here?
Speaker 4: President Trump is considering a Medicare pilot program that would
Speaker 4: provide some seniors' access to CBD. Okay, and reclassifying marijuana
Speaker 4: as a Schedule three would ease tax burdens, banking limits,
Speaker 4: research barriers, and it could attract institutional pharmaceutical investors.
Speaker 3: What's wrong with that, Blake?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't it be good? You know, by the way,
Speaker 3: CBD is different than THHD.
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Could we just yeah? Well, so yeah, we do what
Speaker 3: we do a few emails here, Yeah, let's do What
Speaker 3: are people thinking about?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 4: Missy, says Andrew and Blake. I am so anti weed.
Speaker 4: I have watched and I have seen it ruin people's lives.
Speaker 4: My brother is an avid user who's been using it
Speaker 4: since elementary school. He's suffered mental health problems. He self
Speaker 4: medicates with it. It has not served him well. He
Speaker 4: is violent, paranoid, has continual police contact. As an older man,
Speaker 4: he has had kids. Married the woman after several years,
Speaker 4: and he lives with them anywhere he is able, which
Speaker 4: is they say campgrounds and motels. He's lost the kids,
Speaker 4: they've been removed, but the liberal city they live in
Speaker 4: subsidizes their lifestyles.
Speaker 3: There's stories like that. They're Paul and thank you, that's
Speaker 3: an amazing email. I mean horrible subject. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: that is that's horrible. By the way, he used to
Speaker 3: have this pastor that would say, you know, if it
Speaker 3: wasn't for the Lord, that he'd be divorced, childless, and
Speaker 3: you know, drunk on his couch at home or something.
Speaker 3: I mean, and you've you do hear these stories where
Speaker 3: these vices really do grab one hundred percent of somebody's
Speaker 3: life and they take them down these really destructive paths.
Speaker 3: There's one hundred percent guarantee to not do that if
Speaker 3: you just don't even try the drugs in the first place,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, if you don't go down
Speaker 3: those routes in the first place. So why is a
Speaker 3: society should we be making it easier for young people
Speaker 3: to use it? And Charlie even quoted that one study
Speaker 3: that it was like the perception of the harms of
Speaker 3: marijuana drop most legal their first thing they think too
Speaker 3: on whether something is right or wrong. Is it's not
Speaker 3: the Bible, it's not really moral reasoning. It's just what's
Speaker 3: the law say? Is it illegal? Is it illegal?
Speaker 4: And that doesn't mean everything we think is wrong should
Speaker 4: be banned, but it should at least guide our intuitions
Speaker 4: on that sort of thing. Yeah, things that are massively
Speaker 4: harmful to society, it might be a good idea to
Speaker 4: sharply restrict or ban them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is where we have to do our job.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're not listen, We're we're not. There is
Speaker 3: a there is a sort of live and let live,
Speaker 3: I would say, aspect to American life, to the American ethos,
Speaker 3: you know, we have a counterpoint. Raven says.
Speaker 4: I'm a sixty five year old grandma with MS. I
Speaker 4: was prescribed medication that almost killed me. Now I use
Speaker 4: weed and prohibition does not work. My mom uses weed
Speaker 4: gummies to sleep instead of prescription medication. Maha has this
Speaker 4: afraid of everything, including tail and all. Why do you
Speaker 4: want to.
Speaker 3: Take away our weed? Yeah, that's all that's the center there.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm open minded to medical for elderly people.
Speaker 3: You know, glaucoma what you know, all of these these uses.
Speaker 3: I'm open minded to it. I'm just saying, what when
Speaker 3: you when you go on these legalization kicks, the people
Speaker 3: that are going to get most impacted at young people.
Speaker 4: It'd be funny if you can just say you have
Speaker 4: to be over fifty or something. And America is so
Speaker 4: not used to having laws like that. We're used to
Speaker 4: just you know, becoming an adult and everything's available.
Speaker 3: But I could.
Speaker 4: I think it'd be an interesting thing to consider, because
Speaker 4: I do think the harms are so much greater for
Speaker 4: young people. If you're a retiree and you want to
Speaker 4: get baked, you're not derailing society in the process.
Speaker 3: Are you, though? Well, I mean it's like, honestly, here's
Speaker 3: here's my thing. It's people make this argument, well, it's
Speaker 3: not affecting anybody else. I reject that premise completely, because
Speaker 3: once you start removing the stigma from things, once you
Speaker 3: start legalizing things in a general sense, as you saw
Speaker 3: from the study, young people start going, oh, it's not bad,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it too.
Speaker 4: China used to be was the world's most powerful country,
Speaker 4: and they went through their century of humiliations.
Speaker 3: You know what drove it drug addiction opium.
Speaker 4: They all got hooked on opium and they started to
Speaker 4: recover when they well, they killed all the opium dealers.
Speaker 3: Well that's I don't think we're ready for that. Although
Speaker 3: Trump probably would like to kill all the drug dealers.
Speaker 3: So maybe he studies history. Maybe maybe.
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Speaker 3: All right, without further Adode host of Next Step with
Speaker 3: Mark Halprin and of course Mark Halbrin, Welcome back, Mark,
Speaker 3: Good to see you. I know you had some trained
Speaker 3: debacle going on, so I'm glad you're here. You know,
Speaker 3: it's good to see you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean you think I would know not to get
Speaker 6: on the express when I need the local, But yeah, whatever, anyway,
Speaker 6: you look with you.
Speaker 3: Good glad to have you. You look warm. I'm glad
Speaker 3: I'm in Phoenix. Right. Yeah, I was gonna say it
Speaker 3: looks looks chilly.
Speaker 1: It's a local, all right.
Speaker 3: Well listen, so Mark, everybody's talking about it. I've gotten
Speaker 3: blown up by like five or six reporters this morning
Speaker 3: about what do you make of the Susie thing?
Speaker 1: What do you know?
Speaker 3: And I was like, no comment, I don't know, we're
Speaker 3: going to say that for the show mark what do
Speaker 3: we make of this? She called jd Vance a conspiracy theorist.
Speaker 3: She fought Musk taking drugs ketamine at ketemy user, which
Speaker 3: I don't think is actually that's not secret, called him
Speaker 3: an odd duck. He's admitted he's taken it. Him continuing
Speaker 3: to take it is more. I think we all sort
Speaker 3: of knew he kept taking it, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: it's just Muskus. It must is an odd duck. What
Speaker 3: do we make of this? A lot of people say
Speaker 3: that this is that she was, this is her her
Speaker 3: exit plan. I'm hearing other people say they thought it
Speaker 3: was for a book interview that was gonna that was
Speaker 3: gonna come after the admin. What's the truth?
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, a normal White House official who
Speaker 6: said these things would be fired, but instead you're seeing
Speaker 6: rallying around Susie. Can go on X and see plenty
Speaker 6: of people senators and White House officials saying, you know,
Speaker 6: we love Susie echoing her line that this was all
Speaker 6: immediate hit job, and the Vice president was asked about it,
Speaker 6: he was pretty supportive too. My guess, and I don't
Speaker 6: know this, but my guess, just from knowing the two
Speaker 6: people involved, the guy who was writing it down and
Speaker 6: the white at sweeping staff, is my guess is she
Speaker 6: thought this stuff was off the record. That would be
Speaker 6: my guess, and she didn't intend to say it. Now,
Speaker 6: some of it, if you guys just said, it's not
Speaker 6: super like controversial, and some of it's emphatically true, but
Speaker 6: it's a little bit off key for her to be saying.
Speaker 6: She's not someone who seeks the limelight. She's not someone
Speaker 6: it's the opposite. She puts a premium on people getting along. So,
Speaker 6: like I said, if I had to guess, I guess
Speaker 6: that she didn't think this stuff was for publication. It
Speaker 6: was a misunderstanding between her and Chris Whipple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's put up one seventy one. This is
Speaker 3: her tweet. She says. The article published earlier early this
Speaker 3: morning is a disingenuous, framed hit piece on me and
Speaker 3: the finest president, white House staff and cabinet in history.
Speaker 3: Significant content context was disregarded, and much of what I
Speaker 3: and others said about the team and the president was
Speaker 3: left out of the story. So the part that I
Speaker 3: that doesn't scare with a lot of people, though Mark
Speaker 3: is and she goes on to praise the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: The part that I can't square here is that there's
Speaker 3: this picture of all of them posing. You know, Caroline
Speaker 3: Levitt is there right, there's the picture. So obviously they
Speaker 3: this was you know, they weren't done under this interview,
Speaker 3: was not done under duress or something. So why the
Speaker 3: picture does that? What does that tell you?
Speaker 1: Do you know who?
Speaker 6: I feel sorry for now. I feel sorry for people
Speaker 6: only listening to this as a podcast, because man, that's
Speaker 6: an awesome picture.
Speaker 3: It is striking.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the Avengers meet the West Wing. Look.
Speaker 6: Look, she obviously talked to the guy. And it'll be
Speaker 6: interesting to see if this does escalate her claim that
Speaker 6: the context is missing. If the guy really does have
Speaker 6: audio tapes of everything, we'll see if the context is missing.
Speaker 6: The reality is, you guys know how a lot of
Speaker 6: reporters are. And I'm not accusing Chris Whipple of this
Speaker 6: because I haven't heard the whole thing, but I've been
Speaker 6: in joint interviews with reporters where they'll say, uh, They'll say, like, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, we're colleague mister Jones.
Speaker 1: What's he like?
Speaker 6: Oh he's awesome. What's mister Jones like? He's awesome? What's
Speaker 6: mister Jones like? Oh he's great. What's mister Jones like?
Speaker 6: I really like mister Jones. H Seriously, a lot of
Speaker 6: people don't really like mister Jones. Are you sure you
Speaker 6: like mister Jones? You say, well, there are some people
Speaker 6: who don't really like mister Jones. And then the story
Speaker 6: comes out and it says we asked them and they
Speaker 6: said there's some people who don't like mister Jones. It's
Speaker 6: like it's like, it's like, you know, she could be right.
Speaker 6: It wouldn't be the first time a reporter took the
Speaker 6: context away. But let's see if they're audio tid. But again,
Speaker 6: it's it's an interesting story. I know why you guys
Speaker 6: are talking about it. I talked about it on my show.
Speaker 6: I'll talk about it on my show later today. But
Speaker 6: the norm of a situation like this where people would.
Speaker 1: Say, is Trump mad at her? Is she going to
Speaker 1: lose her job?
Speaker 6: I just don't think that's even a possibility because of
Speaker 6: how well liked Susie is and what a great job
Speaker 6: the President and other people in the White House thinks
Speaker 6: she's doing. So let's see if we're still talking about
Speaker 6: this tomorrow. Now, if the reporter decides he's got to
Speaker 6: put out the context that could keep this thing alive,
Speaker 6: because it's easy, it's very right from the Trump playbook
Speaker 6: to say hit job. But let's see if it was
Speaker 6: actually a hit job.
Speaker 4: Well, one quest thought I had is they talk about
Speaker 4: the prosecutions, sort of the stuff aimed at Comy at
Speaker 4: Leticia James, and she talks about that how she's sort
Speaker 4: of tried to put a ninety day cap I think
Speaker 4: is the word and the piece on retaliation type stuff,
Speaker 4: but that he's going to keep doing it. Could that
Speaker 4: lead to judges citing this interview to justify throwing out charges.
Speaker 4: And I could see that being a way this would
Speaker 4: turn the President against Susie if he sees her as
Speaker 4: derailing something he really wants to get done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I theoretically I agree with you.
Speaker 6: I don't know that it would be admissible, and I
Speaker 6: don't know that that would turn the President against Susie.
Speaker 6: One of the things that this will put in sharp
Speaker 6: relief for some is amongst them, anything Susie has done
Speaker 6: in this job that's really well served the president is
Speaker 6: she has constrained it. When people say in my business
Speaker 6: and Democrats say, you know, Trump justis yes, people around
Speaker 6: him unlike in the first terms. Well, the fact is
Speaker 6: he had people around him the first term who disagreed
Speaker 6: with him, but they did it ineffectively. People like the
Speaker 6: Secretary of State Rix Snillerson would disagree with Trump, but
Speaker 6: he wouldn't get his way. Trump would just President Trump
Speaker 6: would do what he wanted to do. One of the
Speaker 6: undertold stories is when Susie Wild sees a problem or
Speaker 6: others do. She's good at talking to the president and
Speaker 6: trying to restrain him. So if she restrained in this
Speaker 6: area some things, and the article suggests she did probably
Speaker 6: in the president's interest, and even the president may well
Speaker 6: be grateful because he knows sometimes he does go too far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the reveal, is that this is the restraint Trump.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, so I got to play this clip here,
Speaker 3: Mark because JD got asked about he had a big
Speaker 3: event this morning, and I thought he did a brilliant
Speaker 3: job here one ninety five.
Speaker 8: Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe
Speaker 8: in the conspiracy theories that are true. And by the way,
Speaker 8: Susie and I have joked in private and in public
Speaker 8: about that for a long time. For example, I believed
Speaker 8: in the crazy conspiracy theory back in twenty twenty and
Speaker 8: that it was stupid to mask three year olds at
Speaker 8: the height of the COVID pandemic, that we should actually
Speaker 8: let them develop some language skills.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: I believed in this crazy conspiracy theory that the media
Speaker 8: and the government were covering up the fact that Joe
Speaker 8: Biden was clearly unable to do the job.
Speaker 3: I mean, if all we get out of this ultimately
Speaker 3: is another rendition of JD. Vance's political talents, then you know,
Speaker 3: so be it. But that is a fun way to
Speaker 3: take it. And you're right. It's almost like what you're
Speaker 3: not hearing is the actual insight here. You're not hearing backbiting,
Speaker 3: You're not hearing people going for Susie. But you've heard
Speaker 3: these rumors too, Mark, that Susie was going to be
Speaker 3: out at the end of the year, that Trump was
Speaker 3: hit soured do you believe there's any truth to that.
Speaker 1: I done first on terms of JD.
Speaker 6: Vance's greatest pivot since Bob Lanier, just you know, move
Speaker 6: right away from trouble.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that's the case. I based on everything
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 6: People are very pleased with her, and it's hard to
Speaker 6: do that job for any president, but particularly for this president,
Speaker 6: with a very strong willed vice president, strong wild cabinet,
Speaker 6: a lot of high wire act operations. As far as
Speaker 6: I know, she's been in very good stead and good
Speaker 6: standing and very committed to MAGA and the agenda. You
Speaker 6: saw her the other day in a rare interview that
Speaker 6: she also did. She said, you know, she hadn't told
Speaker 6: the president yet, but he's going to be out there
Speaker 6: doing stuff. And Susie's one of the few people who's
Speaker 6: ever been involved in Trump World for the last decade
Speaker 6: who really has the confidence to tell the president when
Speaker 6: she's thinking, thought, faith and like I said, I think
Speaker 6: I used that.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he'll think of this.
Speaker 6: Interview, but if the Vice president's inn the indication she
Speaker 6: ain't going anywhere, then just going to joke about it,
Speaker 6: blame the media and move on.
Speaker 3: I've got to ask you about this Brown University story. Mark.
Speaker 3: I saw some video of you circulating yesterday where you
Speaker 3: said that the parents had been informed that it perhaps
Speaker 3: could have been a targeted hit on Ella Cook, obviously
Speaker 3: the vice president of the Brown University Republican Club. What
Speaker 3: can you tell us about this?
Speaker 6: Well, just to correct you a little bit, I didn't
Speaker 6: say the parents had been informed that I'd been told
Speaker 6: by people that they had been I've not talked to
Speaker 6: the parents. I've not talked to law enforcement. So I
Speaker 6: don't want to spread anything that's false. I don't want
Speaker 6: to be involved in it. But this is what I
Speaker 6: can say a couple things. First of all, imagine that
Speaker 6: this shooting occurred on a southern conservative campus, and imagine
Speaker 6: one of the two people killed was the vice president
Speaker 6: of the Democrat College for Public Democrats. Imagine what the
Speaker 6: media would be saying. And if law enforcement in a
Speaker 6: conservative town had done a very bumbling job in the investigation,
Speaker 6: imagine what people would be saying. Okay, that's number one.
Speaker 6: Number two, there are some peculiar things here, besides the
Speaker 6: fact that law enforcement seems to have done a kind
Speaker 6: of a bad job so far, most of these killers
Speaker 6: they keep firing until they kill themselves or they're shot
Speaker 6: by law enforcement or captured. They're rare that they kill
Speaker 6: and then leave. This doesn't happen that often, right, if
Speaker 6: it's not targeted. And like I said, the three separate
Speaker 6: sources asserted to me that the family had been told this.
Speaker 6: I just don't know if it's true. I just know
Speaker 6: that in the absence of clarity of why this person
Speaker 6: is still at large and why they left after killing
Speaker 6: two people, one of which was this young woman, in
Speaker 6: the absence of clarity, it's notable that on a very
Speaker 6: liberal campus you had a very visible conservative. So I
Speaker 6: just think it's something people, in the absence of clarity,
Speaker 6: something we should consider, because imagine, if that's true, it's
Speaker 6: a very significant and big story.
Speaker 3: It's a huge story, and you know, our thoughts and
Speaker 3: prayers are literally with Ella Cook's family. It's just terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it hits close to home, as you can imagine.
Speaker 1: Marketing of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned the bumbling investigation. I mean, you
Speaker 3: got eight hundred cameras on that campus, and I'm told
Speaker 3: that this particular building was on the edge of campus,
Speaker 3: so that's why they were relying on ring cameras, but
Speaker 3: either way, it's shocking that we don't have a suspect
Speaker 3: for something this high profile. Mark Halpec, thank you for
Speaker 3: making the time. I'm gonna let you get inside here.
Speaker 1: Good to see you, gentlemen. Happy holiday, Very Christmas.
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