WEBVTT - Wiles's Wild Interview + The Millennial “Lost Generation”

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett

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<v Speaker 3>in today joined by Blake Neff in the other seat.

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<v Speaker 3>We got lots to get to today. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>joined by Mark Halprin in the second half of this hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Help us make sense of some of the Susie Wiles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that just came out out of nowhere, out of

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<v Speaker 4>faces some hype for but this was just sort of

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<v Speaker 4>there it is, dropped it and surprised everybody this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Lots of interesting quotes, I think it's safe to say so.

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<v Speaker 3>There's lots of speculation about what this means. Is she

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<v Speaker 3>on her way out? Is did they think this was

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<v Speaker 3>a book interview? Lots of fascinating stuff. Obviously, this is

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<v Speaker 3>Amfest Week, So America Fest is coming to Phoenix the eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty and twenty first right at the Phoenix Convention Center.

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<v Speaker 3>All the biggest names, all the biggest speakers. It's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a wild couple days. I was hoping I

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna get a out of sleep last night, Blake,

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<v Speaker 3>and for some reason, like I woke up at four

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<v Speaker 3>and I tried to go back to sleep. Whoops, didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's not a good sign for Amfest week and

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<v Speaker 3>Fest week. You need to have all your energy all

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<v Speaker 3>your sleep, your hydration, well nourished, all the.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe you could pull a pull a Charlie and

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<v Speaker 4>have one of those like min Yeah, yeah, day he

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<v Speaker 4>got into a high performance.

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<v Speaker 3>He was he was a ferrari of a human being.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's that. Uh. And then we're gonna have Yile

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<v Speaker 3>Exstein to reflect on the Hanukkah massacre in Bondai Beach, Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>which is still a tragedy we need to make sense of.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we're gonna have Kurt Schlickter. We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a gun discussion. We're also gonna talk about should we

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<v Speaker 3>nuke the filibuster. Mark wyn Mullen made some big news

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday by just basically coming out in favor of it.

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<v Speaker 3>A gun discussion and a nuke discussion. Yes, lots of

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<v Speaker 3>weapons and yeah, and there's also this compact article we've

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<v Speaker 3>got to find some pass w went viral. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>very compact magazine. It's called the Lost Generation one eighty four.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to throw it up, it'll be a

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<v Speaker 3>little teas. I don't think we're ready to get into

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<v Speaker 3>it just yet, but one eighty four. So it's the

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna call it the Lost Generation. It's all about

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<v Speaker 3>how there's basically been a whole group of millennials that

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<v Speaker 3>are about forty.

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<v Speaker 4>If you are a millennial, if you are a young

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<v Speaker 4>white millennial male, you've basically gone through, let's just say it,

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<v Speaker 4>a modern day quasi Jim Crow in industry after industry

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<v Speaker 4>where you were systematically excluded and they all got screwed.

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<v Speaker 4>Y are some of the people those are? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess gen z is who Charlie cared about the most.

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<v Speaker 4>But so many of the people who were saying are

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<v Speaker 4>disasters who haven't married, haven't settled down. There are these

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<v Speaker 4>people who just spent their entire twenty five to forty range.

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<v Speaker 4>They got hit by the Great Recession, and then just

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<v Speaker 4>let's just say it systematic discrimination in American life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess we're getting into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess we are. We are getting into it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we are gonna bring HOL'USI wild, Yeah, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>Whiles with him. But but I mean, listen, it's if

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<v Speaker 3>you're turning i'd say, priabe between if you're between the

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<v Speaker 3>ages like thirty five and forty five, this probably could

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<v Speaker 3>have affected you, right, And if you're thirty thirty, thirty

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<v Speaker 3>to forty five, you know, And we rage against the

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<v Speaker 3>marriage rates, we rage against the low fertility rates. Let

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<v Speaker 3>we rage against the fact that home ownership has the

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<v Speaker 3>average meeting new home buyer is at like forty years old.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk about all these ills, but what is really

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<v Speaker 3>driving down the average. It's these commissars of wokeness that

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<v Speaker 3>came in right around.

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<v Speaker 4>That's actually not who the article blames. It's not the

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<v Speaker 4>commissars of wokeness necessarily. All right, this is the interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So just so you guys, I think it's connected.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can look this all up again. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>Lost Generation. It's a very long article on Compact magazine.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a huge number of personalities on X we're

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<v Speaker 4>discussing this. It's gonna be one of the most read articles.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>On the right, Jacobs by Jacob Savage, who is a

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<v Speaker 4>writer based in Los Angeles, and he tells his own story.

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<v Speaker 4>He was trying to become a TV or film writer

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<v Speaker 4>in Los Angeles, which that's long been a job. A

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<v Speaker 4>ton of young white guys get did you want to

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<v Speaker 4>go there trying to be a writer?

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<v Speaker 3>I was trying to be a right, you have no

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<v Speaker 3>idea how like internalized all of this was exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a job a ton of I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>artsy young men.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to be a lot of them want to

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<v Speaker 4>be journalists, some of them want to be film writers,

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<v Speaker 4>some of them want to go into academia. And it's

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<v Speaker 4>really focused on those art you know, the industry.

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<v Speaker 3>Is what's interesting though, as somebody to live this a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, it wasn't really artsy young men. It's really analytical,

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<v Speaker 3>sharp minded. That's the people that are driven to go

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<v Speaker 3>into the writing and producing fields. They're there. If they

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<v Speaker 3>were in a different city, they would have been you know, engineers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not kidding. It's like the same thing. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>same profile. These are like wells get hit. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>pro focusing on especially those slightly more creative fields or academia.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a creative journalism, arts, creativity, and how around twenty

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen you start getting the woke bubble, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you need more diversity in all things.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to have more women, women of color, people

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<v Speaker 3>of color.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the line they had. It reminds us of things

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<v Speaker 4>that were viral a decade ago. That people have forgotten.

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<v Speaker 4>Like there was a thing called Oscar's so White.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a hashtag. We still have hashtag campaigns. Before

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<v Speaker 3>they bought X he got rid of the hashtags. They

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<v Speaker 3>got Chris Rock to host the Oscars.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and Oscars so white was just everyone nominated for

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<v Speaker 4>the acting the major acting categories was white that year.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And so suddenly there was just this demand you need

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<v Speaker 4>to have diversity.

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<v Speaker 3>And what it points out.

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<v Speaker 4>Again and again is the boomers and Gen xers. There's

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<v Speaker 4>all these older, older white men who actually are already

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<v Speaker 4>established in fields, and they just froze it in amber.

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<v Speaker 4>And so what it became was they would just have

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<v Speaker 4>everyone beneath them would be used to hit those diversity metrics.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not, oh, we're going to increase diversity by

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<v Speaker 4>making fifteen percent of the established people leave and replace them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's we're going to just categorically elimin eight young white

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<v Speaker 4>men from the pipeline.

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<v Speaker 3>For all of these jobs. And that's exactly it turns

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<v Speaker 3>out exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>What it looks like, all of these people who are

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to go into these fields, they just could not

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<v Speaker 4>get jobs in them at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And you really think what.

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<v Speaker 4>Sort of impact that has to be on one psychology,

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<v Speaker 4>which I know people who have gone through that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can absolutely say, very certainly, I experienced just this.

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<v Speaker 3>I experienced just this when I was living in LA

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<v Speaker 3>where just it was common just to say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>too bad, you're you're a white guy. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it would this would be a lot easier if you

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<v Speaker 3>if you had something we could throw out there, like

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<v Speaker 3>are you gay? I'm not even kidding they say that,

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<v Speaker 3>they mentioned being gay.

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<v Speaker 4>They always will have something need, they'll be something, they'll

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<v Speaker 4>have like some.

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<v Speaker 3>American Indian ancestry. They pulled the Live Warren and I

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<v Speaker 3>was I was literally like, no, I'm a white heterosexual Christian. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like sorry, good luck.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the number is in here. It's worth reading

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<v Speaker 4>just for all of the numbers. In twenty eleven, fourteen

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, white men were forty eight percent of low

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<v Speaker 4>level TV writers. In twenty twenty four, thirteen years later,

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<v Speaker 4>they were eleven point nine percent.

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<v Speaker 3>That's dramatic. In let's see, editorial staff went from fifty

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<v Speaker 3>three percent white and eight or fifty three percent male

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<v Speaker 3>and eighty nine percent white in twenty thirteen to thirty

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<v Speaker 3>six six percent male and sixty six percent white tenure.

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<v Speaker 4>Track faculty at Harvard thirty nine percent white men in

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<v Speaker 4>the humanities to eighteen percent. And when that means is

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<v Speaker 4>if you're dropping that much and you're not cutting off

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<v Speaker 4>the people who are in early, it's that it's a

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<v Speaker 4>total cut off at the bottom. Yeah, and so you

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<v Speaker 4>just took a group white men. There's still about twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five percent of young American adults a little bit more

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<v Speaker 4>even twenty five to thirty percent. And let's be frank

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<v Speaker 4>they're a pretty talented thirty percent. They're more likely to

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<v Speaker 4>complete college, more likely to develop a lot of skills

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<v Speaker 4>than some other groups that have been favored in America

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<v Speaker 4>the last decade. And yet they're just treated as practical

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<v Speaker 4>untouchables in a huge number of fields. And it's bad

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<v Speaker 4>for them. It's totally derailed their lives because if you

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<v Speaker 4>were subject of this discrimination for the past five years,

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<v Speaker 4>ten years, that ruins your career. That's the period where

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<v Speaker 4>you need to get off the ground and you're just

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<v Speaker 4>stuck in entry level stuff. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 4>it fried American meritocracy. But why are TV shows so bad?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe because they didn't hire good writers to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Why is z academia so roden because they hired only

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<v Speaker 4>people who filled a racial checkbox instead of the best scholars.

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<v Speaker 3>Over and over they do that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure our viewers are listeners, they may have

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<v Speaker 4>lived this themselves. Or if you're a parent, you may

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<v Speaker 4>have seen your son struggle through this because he couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>get a foot in the door anywhere and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>really his fault.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I And not to mention we talk about student

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<v Speaker 3>loans pushing off family formation or whatever, right buying a home. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can't even get into the job market, if

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<v Speaker 3>you can't start the career to get up to the

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<v Speaker 3>rungs of power to earn more money, then that's why

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<v Speaker 3>marriage rates are going to collapse. That's why fertility rates

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<v Speaker 3>are going to collapse. I'm sorry, but white men still

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<v Speaker 3>make up a huge portion of the of the country.

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<v Speaker 4>The line they're using lost generation Anthony one of our listeners' emails,

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<v Speaker 4>he says, I am a millennial and we're often called

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<v Speaker 4>a lost generation. Millennials got lost and pushed aside.

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<v Speaker 3>That's screwed.

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<v Speaker 3>Compact Magazine, Anti White Stuff. I mean there was this.

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<v Speaker 4>In a loss generation. I think that's actually the way

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<v Speaker 4>we link it with the Swedes story, because that's a

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<v Speaker 4>good point. Charlie would talk about this. There's this real

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<v Speaker 4>sense of compared to a lot of drugs, marijuana, whether

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<v Speaker 4>you support leading it or not, there's this big Charlie

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<v Speaker 4>would talk about this, it's a drug that sort of

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<v Speaker 4>dulls the ambitions, dulls the mind. There is, for a

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<v Speaker 4>good reason, a strong association with between being a really

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<v Speaker 4>heavy marijuana user and just being kind of a loser.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, I'll never forget. When I was going

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<v Speaker 3>back to my LA days, I remember I met this

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<v Speaker 3>one guy, believe it or not, he was a worship leader,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, and he was an avid marijuana user. But

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<v Speaker 3>he was like, if I don't use it, I will

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<v Speaker 3>get massively depressed. And he would he acknowledged I he has,

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<v Speaker 3>he had an addiction, he had a problem. I just thought,

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<v Speaker 3>why would you ever want to be stuck on something

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<v Speaker 3>that has so much mastery over you? You know, and

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<v Speaker 3>and anyways, But a couple of things that we need

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of establish here. If you are find yourself

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<v Speaker 3>of a certain generation and you and you still think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, weed's fine, It's not the worst thing. Modern

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<v Speaker 3>weed is not at all what like you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>hippie era weed. It's stronger stuff, stronger, way more potent,

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<v Speaker 3>way more potent. Uh So let's do it this way. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give Trump some credit here, h This

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<v Speaker 3>is Trump on fentanyl, and he is a thousand percent

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<v Speaker 3>spot on play cut one sixty five.

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<v Speaker 5>Today, I'm taking one more step to protect Americans from

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<v Speaker 5>the scourge of deadly fentanyl flooding into our country with

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<v Speaker 5>this historic executive order I will sign today. We're formerly

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<v Speaker 5>classedifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, which is

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<v Speaker 5>what it is. No bomb does what this is doing.

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<v Speaker 5>Two hundred to three hundred thousand people die every year

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<v Speaker 5>that we know. So we're formally classifying fentanyl as a

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<v Speaker 5>weapon of mass destruction.

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<v Speaker 3>Weapon I mean listen, it's a funny classification. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>funny classification, but candidly, you know, and we used to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this with Charlie all the time. The drug

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<v Speaker 3>epidemic kills more people than Ukraine, or kills more Americans

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<v Speaker 3>than you know, basically anything. I'm just thinking about how

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<v Speaker 3>that classification.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to imagine that means if you're transporting like

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<v Speaker 4>fentonal ingredients, they can just throw you in prison for.

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<v Speaker 3>Life or bomb your boat.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, attempting to make weapons and mass destruction

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<v Speaker 4>is a super duper federal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But here's here's the other side of the drug

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<v Speaker 3>news today, which is interesting. We have so much drug news.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>CNN says that President Trump is considering, uh well, changing

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<v Speaker 3>the classification of weed. I think is the right way

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<v Speaker 3>to say it. Some are saying legalize marijuana. I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure exactly he said. He said himself, he's considering.

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<v Speaker 4>He was asked in the Oval Office for He says,

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<v Speaker 4>we're considering it, and it would be a reclassification from

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<v Speaker 4>Schedule one, I believe to Schedule three. Right, Schedule one

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<v Speaker 4>is sort of the most restricted, most controlled drugs. The

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<v Speaker 4>other stuff on it. Uh, there's stuff like heroin, meth

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<v Speaker 4>those are schedule one drugs. Schedule three in comparison is ketamine, steroids, testosterone, what.

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<v Speaker 3>You would say, ketamine, it's on the list in the

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<v Speaker 3>hill in the hills are We'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, but Charlie thought a lot about this, and it

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the controversial things he said at least

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<v Speaker 4>once multiple times. I think that this is one of

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<v Speaker 4>his positions that got him the most pushback on campus,

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<v Speaker 4>more than his abortion views, which is he just he

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<v Speaker 4>opposed legalizing weed. A lot of young people I really

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<v Speaker 4>like it, but I think I do. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the tide is shifting a bit. I think

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<v Speaker 4>we probably reached peak marijuana enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 3>We had that win in Florida.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe let's let's play the clip here on two. His

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<v Speaker 3>is from CNN.

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<v Speaker 7>The President could use in fact against his Democratic opposition

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<v Speaker 7>and say, hey, you know what, Democrats have talked the talk,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm actually gonna walk the walk when it comes

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<v Speaker 7>to legalizing marijuana.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So what are the prediction markets saying about the chances?

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<v Speaker 5>Then?

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<v Speaker 8>Here?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, so what's the chance that this actually happens?

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's a pretty gosh darn good chance it's

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<v Speaker 7>gonna happen at least the corner of the prediction markets.

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<v Speaker 7>So the chance that the US reschedule is marijuana before

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<v Speaker 7>the end of Trump's term.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at this, eighty eight percent know it's funny because

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<v Speaker 4>you see seventy two percent of young people approve of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they do, but I just I hope it changes

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<v Speaker 4>because you can smell it here in Phoenix. You can

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<v Speaker 4>smell it a ton if you're in DC. It's really disgusting.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big driver of making public places feel dirtier.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a much more rank smell than even cigarette smoke

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<v Speaker 4>was in the past. I think Charlie had very good

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<v Speaker 4>reason to dislike it. Yeah, so I'm hoping people they

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<v Speaker 4>don't reclassify it.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a clip from Charlie that I wish we

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<v Speaker 3>could have got to, but it's I listen, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I think the prediction markets are probably right. Yeah, Trump

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<v Speaker 3>seeing a political opportunity, But listen, sometimes we disagree with

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<v Speaker 3>the president. I remember Charlie was actually asked by our

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<v Speaker 3>next guest, Mark Alburn, what do you disagree with on

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<v Speaker 3>the president? And he said weed yeah, so you know it. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>we still disagree. I think it's a loser drug. I

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<v Speaker 3>get it why people try and bend their rationale to

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<v Speaker 3>make it something less than that. I'm telling you modern weed,

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<v Speaker 3>especially when you take it young, could really cause mental illness.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a drug you could argue legalize it if you're

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<v Speaker 4>after thirty or something because it really cooks a developing

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<v Speaker 4>Yes it.

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<v Speaker 3>Does, and so do not take it lightly. We're also

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<v Speaker 3>weed clip from Charlie. I wanted to play it earlier,

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't get to it one ninety three.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's talk about the youth side of it. This

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<v Speaker 2>is a very important thing because you might say, but Charlie,

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<v Speaker 2>if we legalize it, it's all just going to be

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<v Speaker 2>parents that have to just parent their kids. Who are

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<v Speaker 2>you to say that if an adult wants to just

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<v Speaker 2>be able to get high, they should not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to get high.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds good.

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<v Speaker 2>That is an oversimplification of the society we are living in. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 2>in legalized states, the perception of marijuana's harm among teenagers

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<v Speaker 2>fell by over twenty percent in ten years from the

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<v Speaker 2>Monitoring Monitoring the Future survey, making early initiation more likely.

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<v Speaker 3>How about traffic deaths.

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<v Speaker 2>After Colorado legalized, marijuana related traffic fatalities road rose one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty one percent between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do one ninety four as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Heavy weed users are sixty percent more likely to miss

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<v Speaker 2>work seventy five percent more likely to show poor job performance,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicines. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me put pause. If we want to defeat the Chinese,

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<v Speaker 2>is more drug use better or worse? If we want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Mars, If we want to build great things,

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<v Speaker 2>if we want to start new companies, if more employees

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<v Speaker 2>are using weed, does that make us stronger or weaker?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with Charlie on all this. I am it's he

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<v Speaker 3>really was. He was upgrading his message on that more

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<v Speaker 3>and more. You got to understand there, It's like our

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<v Speaker 3>whole society, the structures that keep it up, the institutions,

0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 3>the morals, the values is you keep whittling away at

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<v Speaker 3>these things, even if it's on the edges, Eventually that

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<v Speaker 3>gets to the core. And we're seeing that across all

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<v Speaker 3>of our culture.

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<v Speaker 4>Think about what we talked about at the start with

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<v Speaker 4>that article, all the young men just being excluded from

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<v Speaker 4>every career and our fix is okay, Well, you can

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<v Speaker 4>now have legal weed and legal gambling and legal every

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<v Speaker 4>other addiction ever and just stay doped up, don't care

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<v Speaker 4>that much.

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<v Speaker 3>Please don't overthrow, play video games, get high, vape, and

0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:42.520
<v Speaker 3>gamble all your money away that you don't have because

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have a job. Sounds like a good recipe

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<v Speaker 3>for success. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, the studies are incredible. Heavy marijuana use

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<v Speaker 2>is linked to five times higher risk of psychosis and

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<v Speaker 2>young adults from the Lance in Psychiatry twenty nineteen Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>er visits for cannabis and do psychosis trippled right after legalization.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, there's another study in addition the

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<v Speaker 2>one that Blake sent me of an average drop of

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<v Speaker 2>eight IQ points by the Dundon and study in p

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<v Speaker 2>NAS twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>See I miss that you're just feeding Charlie's studies. Blake,

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<v Speaker 4>get me stuff on weed? Yeah, get him stuff on weed.

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<v Speaker 4>We just start rattling on air exactly. I mean I

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<v Speaker 4>just completely agree now. Now, so let's just be very

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<v Speaker 4>clear about what is actually you know, So what's happening here?

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump is considering a Medicare pilot program that would

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<v Speaker 4>provide some seniors' access to CBD. Okay, and reclassifying marijuana

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<v Speaker 4>as a Schedule three would ease tax burdens, banking limits,

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<v Speaker 4>research barriers, and it could attract institutional pharmaceutical investors.

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<v Speaker 3>What's wrong with that, Blake?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, wouldn't it be good? You know, by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>CBD is different than THHD.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Could we just yeah? Well, so yeah, we do what

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<v Speaker 3>we do a few emails here, Yeah, let's do What

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<v Speaker 3>are people thinking about?

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<v Speaker 9>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Missy, says Andrew and Blake. I am so anti weed.

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<v Speaker 4>I have watched and I have seen it ruin people's lives.

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<v Speaker 4>My brother is an avid user who's been using it

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<v Speaker 4>since elementary school. He's suffered mental health problems. He self

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<v Speaker 4>medicates with it. It has not served him well. He

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<v Speaker 4>is violent, paranoid, has continual police contact. As an older man,

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<v Speaker 4>he has had kids. Married the woman after several years,

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<v Speaker 4>and he lives with them anywhere he is able, which

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<v Speaker 4>is they say campgrounds and motels. He's lost the kids,

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<v Speaker 4>they've been removed, but the liberal city they live in

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<v Speaker 4>subsidizes their lifestyles.

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<v Speaker 3>There's stories like that. They're Paul and thank you, that's

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<v Speaker 3>an amazing email. I mean horrible subject. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>that is that's horrible. By the way, he used to

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<v Speaker 3>have this pastor that would say, you know, if it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't for the Lord, that he'd be divorced, childless, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, drunk on his couch at home or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and you've you do hear these stories where

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<v Speaker 3>these vices really do grab one hundred percent of somebody's

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<v Speaker 3>life and they take them down these really destructive paths.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one hundred percent guarantee to not do that if

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<v Speaker 3>you just don't even try the drugs in the first place,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, if you don't go down

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<v Speaker 3>those routes in the first place. So why is a

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<v Speaker 3>society should we be making it easier for young people

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<v Speaker 3>to use it? And Charlie even quoted that one study

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<v Speaker 3>that it was like the perception of the harms of

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<v Speaker 3>marijuana drop most legal their first thing they think too

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<v Speaker 3>on whether something is right or wrong. Is it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible, it's not really moral reasoning. It's just what's

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<v Speaker 3>the law say? Is it illegal? Is it illegal?

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<v Speaker 4>And that doesn't mean everything we think is wrong should

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<v Speaker 4>be banned, but it should at least guide our intuitions

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<v Speaker 4>on that sort of thing. Yeah, things that are massively

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<v Speaker 4>harmful to society, it might be a good idea to

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<v Speaker 4>sharply restrict or ban them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and this is where we have to do our job.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're not listen, We're we're not. There is

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<v Speaker 3>a there is a sort of live and let live,

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, aspect to American life, to the American ethos,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we have a counterpoint. Raven says.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a sixty five year old grandma with MS. I

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<v Speaker 4>was prescribed medication that almost killed me. Now I use

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<v Speaker 4>weed and prohibition does not work. My mom uses weed

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<v Speaker 4>gummies to sleep instead of prescription medication. Maha has this

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<v Speaker 4>afraid of everything, including tail and all. Why do you

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<v Speaker 4>want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Take away our weed? Yeah, that's all that's the center there.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm open minded to medical for elderly people.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, glaucoma what you know, all of these these uses.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm open minded to it. I'm just saying, what when

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<v Speaker 3>you when you go on these legalization kicks, the people

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<v Speaker 3>that are going to get most impacted at young people.

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<v Speaker 4>It'd be funny if you can just say you have

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<v Speaker 4>to be over fifty or something. And America is so

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<v Speaker 4>not used to having laws like that. We're used to

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, becoming an adult and everything's available.

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<v Speaker 3>But I could.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it'd be an interesting thing to consider, because

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<v Speaker 4>I do think the harms are so much greater for

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<v Speaker 4>young people. If you're a retiree and you want to

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<v Speaker 4>get baked, you're not derailing society in the process.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you, though? Well, I mean it's like, honestly, here's

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<v Speaker 3>here's my thing. It's people make this argument, well, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not affecting anybody else. I reject that premise completely, because

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<v Speaker 3>once you start removing the stigma from things, once you

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<v Speaker 3>start legalizing things in a general sense, as you saw

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<v Speaker 3>from the study, young people start going, oh, it's not bad,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do it too.

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<v Speaker 4>China used to be was the world's most powerful country,

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<v Speaker 4>and they went through their century of humiliations.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what drove it drug addiction opium.

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<v Speaker 4>They all got hooked on opium and they started to

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<v Speaker 4>recover when they well, they killed all the opium dealers.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's I don't think we're ready for that. Although

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<v Speaker 3>Trump probably would like to kill all the drug dealers.

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<v Speaker 3>So maybe he studies history. Maybe maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, without further Adode host of Next Step with

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Halprin and of course Mark Halbrin, Welcome back, Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>Good to see you. I know you had some trained

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<v Speaker 3>debacle going on, so I'm glad you're here. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean you think I would know not to get

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<v Speaker 6>on the express when I need the local, But yeah, whatever, anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>you look with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Good glad to have you. You look warm. I'm glad

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm in Phoenix. Right. Yeah, I was gonna say it

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 3>looks looks chilly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a local, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well listen, so Mark, everybody's talking about it. I've gotten

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 3>blown up by like five or six reporters this morning

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 3>about what do you make of the Susie thing?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, no comment, I don't know, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to say that for the show mark what do

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<v Speaker 3>we make of this? She called jd Vance a conspiracy theorist.

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 3>She fought Musk taking drugs ketamine at ketemy user, which

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 3>I don't think is actually that's not secret, called him

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<v Speaker 3>an odd duck. He's admitted he's taken it. Him continuing

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<v Speaker 3>to take it is more. I think we all sort

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:47.560
<v Speaker 3>of knew he kept taking it, but I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just Muskus. It must is an odd duck. What

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<v Speaker 3>do we make of this? A lot of people say

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<v Speaker 3>that this is that she was, this is her her

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 3>exit plan. I'm hearing other people say they thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was for a book interview that was gonna that was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna come after the admin. What's the truth?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, first of all, a normal White House official who

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 6>said these things would be fired, but instead you're seeing

0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 6>rallying around Susie. Can go on X and see plenty

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 6>of people senators and White House officials saying, you know,

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 6>we love Susie echoing her line that this was all

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 6>immediate hit job, and the Vice president was asked about it,

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<v Speaker 6>he was pretty supportive too. My guess, and I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know this, but my guess, just from knowing the two

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 6>people involved, the guy who was writing it down and

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 6>the white at sweeping staff, is my guess is she

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 6>thought this stuff was off the record. That would be

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 6>my guess, and she didn't intend to say it. Now,

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 6>some of it, if you guys just said, it's not

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 6>super like controversial, and some of it's emphatically true, but

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 6>it's a little bit off key for her to be saying.

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<v Speaker 6>She's not someone who seeks the limelight. She's not someone

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 6>it's the opposite. She puts a premium on people getting along. So,

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<v Speaker 6>like I said, if I had to guess, I guess

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<v Speaker 6>that she didn't think this stuff was for publication. It

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<v Speaker 6>was a misunderstanding between her and Chris Whipple.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so let's put up one seventy one. This is

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:06.560
<v Speaker 3>her tweet. She says. The article published earlier early this

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:10.080
<v Speaker 3>morning is a disingenuous, framed hit piece on me and

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<v Speaker 3>the finest president, white House staff and cabinet in history.

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<v Speaker 3>Significant content context was disregarded, and much of what I

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 3>and others said about the team and the president was

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 3>left out of the story. So the part that I

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't scare with a lot of people, though Mark

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 3>is and she goes on to praise the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 3>The part that I can't square here is that there's

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<v Speaker 3>this picture of all of them posing. You know, Caroline

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 3>Levitt is there right, there's the picture. So obviously they

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 3>this was you know, they weren't done under this interview,

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>was not done under duress or something. So why the

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 3>picture does that? What does that tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know who?

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<v Speaker 6>I feel sorry for now. I feel sorry for people

0:29:53.920 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 6>only listening to this as a podcast, because man, that's

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<v Speaker 6>an awesome picture.

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<v Speaker 3>It is striking.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:03.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like the Avengers meet the West Wing. Look.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, she obviously talked to the guy. And it'll be

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<v Speaker 6>interesting to see if this does escalate her claim that

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 6>the context is missing. If the guy really does have

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 6>audio tapes of everything, we'll see if the context is missing.

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<v Speaker 6>The reality is, you guys know how a lot of

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.520
<v Speaker 6>reporters are. And I'm not accusing Chris Whipple of this

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.800
<v Speaker 6>because I haven't heard the whole thing, but I've been

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<v Speaker 6>in joint interviews with reporters where they'll say, uh, They'll say, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, we're colleague mister Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>What's he like?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh he's awesome. What's mister Jones like? He's awesome? What's

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<v Speaker 6>mister Jones like? Oh he's great. What's mister Jones like?

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<v Speaker 6>I really like mister Jones. H Seriously, a lot of

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 6>people don't really like mister Jones. Are you sure you

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 6>like mister Jones? You say, well, there are some people

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 6>who don't really like mister Jones. And then the story

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<v Speaker 6>comes out and it says we asked them and they

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<v Speaker 6>said there's some people who don't like mister Jones. It's

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 6>like it's like, it's like, you know, she could be right.

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<v Speaker 6>It wouldn't be the first time a reporter took the

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 6>context away. But let's see if they're audio tid. But again,

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<v Speaker 6>it's it's an interesting story. I know why you guys

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 6>are talking about it. I talked about it on my show.

0:31:02.760 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 6>I'll talk about it on my show later today. But

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<v Speaker 6>the norm of a situation like this where people would.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, is Trump mad at her? Is she going to

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<v Speaker 1>lose her job?

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't think that's even a possibility because of

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<v Speaker 6>how well liked Susie is and what a great job

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 6>the President and other people in the White House thinks

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 6>she's doing. So let's see if we're still talking about

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 6>this tomorrow. Now, if the reporter decides he's got to

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 6>put out the context that could keep this thing alive,

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<v Speaker 6>because it's easy, it's very right from the Trump playbook

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.480
<v Speaker 6>to say hit job. But let's see if it was

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<v Speaker 6>actually a hit job.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, one quest thought I had is they talk about

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<v Speaker 4>the prosecutions, sort of the stuff aimed at Comy at

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 4>Leticia James, and she talks about that how she's sort

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<v Speaker 4>of tried to put a ninety day cap I think

0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 4>is the word and the piece on retaliation type stuff,

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 4>but that he's going to keep doing it. Could that

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<v Speaker 4>lead to judges citing this interview to justify throwing out charges.

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<v Speaker 4>And I could see that being a way this would

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<v Speaker 4>turn the President against Susie if he sees her as

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.240
<v Speaker 4>derailing something he really wants to get done.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I theoretically I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know that it would be admissible, and I

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 6>don't know that that would turn the President against Susie.

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 6>One of the things that this will put in sharp

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<v Speaker 6>relief for some is amongst them, anything Susie has done

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<v Speaker 6>in this job that's really well served the president is

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<v Speaker 6>she has constrained it. When people say in my business

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 6>and Democrats say, you know, Trump justis yes, people around

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 6>him unlike in the first terms. Well, the fact is

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 6>he had people around him the first term who disagreed

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 6>with him, but they did it ineffectively. People like the

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 6>Secretary of State Rix Snillerson would disagree with Trump, but

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<v Speaker 6>he wouldn't get his way. Trump would just President Trump

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<v Speaker 6>would do what he wanted to do. One of the

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<v Speaker 6>undertold stories is when Susie Wild sees a problem or

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<v Speaker 6>others do. She's good at talking to the president and

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<v Speaker 6>trying to restrain him. So if she restrained in this

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<v Speaker 6>area some things, and the article suggests she did probably

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<v Speaker 6>in the president's interest, and even the president may well

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<v Speaker 6>be grateful because he knows sometimes he does go too far.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the reveal, is that this is the restraint Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, yeah, so I got to play this clip here,

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<v Speaker 3>Mark because JD got asked about he had a big

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<v Speaker 3>event this morning, and I thought he did a brilliant

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<v Speaker 3>job here one ninety five.

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<v Speaker 8>Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe

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<v Speaker 8>in the conspiracy theories that are true. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 8>Susie and I have joked in private and in public

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<v Speaker 8>about that for a long time. For example, I believed

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<v Speaker 8>in the crazy conspiracy theory back in twenty twenty and

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<v Speaker 8>that it was stupid to mask three year olds at

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<v Speaker 8>the height of the COVID pandemic, that we should actually

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<v Speaker 8>let them develop some language skills.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>I believed in this crazy conspiracy theory that the media

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<v Speaker 8>and the government were covering up the fact that Joe

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<v Speaker 8>Biden was clearly unable to do the job.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if all we get out of this ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>is another rendition of JD. Vance's political talents, then you know,

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 3>so be it. But that is a fun way to

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<v Speaker 3>take it. And you're right. It's almost like what you're

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<v Speaker 3>not hearing is the actual insight here. You're not hearing backbiting,

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 3>You're not hearing people going for Susie. But you've heard

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<v Speaker 3>these rumors too, Mark, that Susie was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>out at the end of the year, that Trump was

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 3>hit soured do you believe there's any truth to that.

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<v Speaker 1>I done first on terms of JD.

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<v Speaker 6>Vance's greatest pivot since Bob Lanier, just you know, move

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<v Speaker 6>right away from trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that's the case. I based on everything

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 6>People are very pleased with her, and it's hard to

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<v Speaker 6>do that job for any president, but particularly for this president,

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<v Speaker 6>with a very strong willed vice president, strong wild cabinet,

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 6>a lot of high wire act operations. As far as

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<v Speaker 6>I know, she's been in very good stead and good

0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 6>standing and very committed to MAGA and the agenda. You

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<v Speaker 6>saw her the other day in a rare interview that

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 6>she also did. She said, you know, she hadn't told

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<v Speaker 6>the president yet, but he's going to be out there

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<v Speaker 6>doing stuff. And Susie's one of the few people who's

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<v Speaker 6>ever been involved in Trump World for the last decade

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<v Speaker 6>who really has the confidence to tell the president when

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<v Speaker 6>she's thinking, thought, faith and like I said, I think

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<v Speaker 6>I used that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he'll think of this.

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<v Speaker 6>Interview, but if the Vice president's inn the indication she

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.440
<v Speaker 6>ain't going anywhere, then just going to joke about it,

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<v Speaker 6>blame the media and move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got to ask you about this Brown University story. Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw some video of you circulating yesterday where you

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<v Speaker 3>said that the parents had been informed that it perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>could have been a targeted hit on Ella Cook, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>the vice president of the Brown University Republican Club. What

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<v Speaker 3>can you tell us about this?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, just to correct you a little bit, I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>say the parents had been informed that I'd been told

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<v Speaker 6>by people that they had been I've not talked to

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<v Speaker 6>the parents. I've not talked to law enforcement. So I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to spread anything that's false. I don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to be involved in it. But this is what I

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<v Speaker 6>can say a couple things. First of all, imagine that

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<v Speaker 6>this shooting occurred on a southern conservative campus, and imagine

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<v Speaker 6>one of the two people killed was the vice president

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<v Speaker 6>of the Democrat College for Public Democrats. Imagine what the

0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 6>media would be saying. And if law enforcement in a

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:25.359
<v Speaker 6>conservative town had done a very bumbling job in the investigation,

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 6>imagine what people would be saying. Okay, that's number one.

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<v Speaker 6>Number two, there are some peculiar things here, besides the

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 6>fact that law enforcement seems to have done a kind

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.760
<v Speaker 6>of a bad job so far, most of these killers

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 6>they keep firing until they kill themselves or they're shot

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<v Speaker 6>by law enforcement or captured. They're rare that they kill

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 6>and then leave. This doesn't happen that often, right, if

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 6>it's not targeted. And like I said, the three separate

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 6>sources asserted to me that the family had been told this.

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<v Speaker 6>I just don't know if it's true. I just know

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<v Speaker 6>that in the absence of clarity of why this person

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:06.120
<v Speaker 6>is still at large and why they left after killing

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<v Speaker 6>two people, one of which was this young woman, in

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<v Speaker 6>the absence of clarity, it's notable that on a very

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 6>liberal campus you had a very visible conservative. So I

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<v Speaker 6>just think it's something people, in the absence of clarity,

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<v Speaker 6>something we should consider, because imagine, if that's true, it's

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<v Speaker 6>a very significant and big story.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a huge story, and you know, our thoughts and

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<v Speaker 3>prayers are literally with Ella Cook's family. It's just terrible. Yeah,

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 3>it hits close to home, as you can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Marketing of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you mentioned the bumbling investigation. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>got eight hundred cameras on that campus, and I'm told

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<v Speaker 3>that this particular building was on the edge of campus,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's why they were relying on ring cameras, but

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<v Speaker 3>either way, it's shocking that we don't have a suspect

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<v Speaker 3>for something this high profile. Mark Halpec, thank you for

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<v Speaker 3>making the time. I'm gonna let you get inside here.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to see you, gentlemen. Happy holiday, Very Christmas.

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