1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: end up miserable. 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: But if the most important. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: Thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your kids 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: to college. You should get married as young as possible 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: and have as many kids as possible. Go start at 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: turning point you would say college chapter. Go start attning 13 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: point youould say high school chapter. Go find out how 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: your church can get involved. 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 3: Sign up and become an activist. 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 2: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, 17 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: most important decision I ever made in my life, and 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: I encourage you to do the same. 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 3: Here I am Lord, Use me. 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: my family, friends and viewers. 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvett 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 3: in today joined by Blake Neff in the other seat. 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: We got lots to get to today. We're gonna be 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: joined by Mark Halprin in the second half of this hour. 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: Help us make sense of some of the Susie Wiles. 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that just came out out of nowhere, out of 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 4: faces some hype for but this was just sort of 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 4: there it is, dropped it and surprised everybody this morning. 32 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: Lots of interesting quotes, I think it's safe to say so. 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: There's lots of speculation about what this means. Is she 34 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: on her way out? Is did they think this was 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: a book interview? Lots of fascinating stuff. Obviously, this is 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: Amfest Week, So America Fest is coming to Phoenix the eighteenth, 37 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: nineteen twenty and twenty first right at the Phoenix Convention Center. 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: All the biggest names, all the biggest speakers. It's going 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: to be a wild couple days. I was hoping I 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: was gonna get a out of sleep last night, Blake, 41 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: and for some reason, like I woke up at four 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: and I tried to go back to sleep. Whoops, didn't happen. 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: So that's not a good sign for Amfest week and 44 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 3: Fest week. You need to have all your energy all 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: your sleep, your hydration, well nourished, all the. 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe you could pull a pull a Charlie and 47 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 4: have one of those like min Yeah, yeah, day he 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 4: got into a high performance. 49 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 3: He was he was a ferrari of a human being. 50 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: So there's that. Uh. And then we're gonna have Yile 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: Exstein to reflect on the Hanukkah massacre in Bondai Beach, Australia, 52 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: which is still a tragedy we need to make sense of. 53 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: And then we're gonna have Kurt Schlickter. We're gonna have 54 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: a gun discussion. We're also gonna talk about should we 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: nuke the filibuster. Mark wyn Mullen made some big news 56 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: yesterday by just basically coming out in favor of it. 57 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: A gun discussion and a nuke discussion. Yes, lots of 58 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: weapons and yeah, and there's also this compact article we've 59 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: got to find some pass w went viral. Yes, yes, 60 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: very compact magazine. It's called the Lost Generation one eighty four. 61 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: If you want to throw it up, it'll be a 62 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: little teas. I don't think we're ready to get into 63 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: it just yet, but one eighty four. So it's the 64 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: it's gonna call it the Lost Generation. It's all about 65 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: how there's basically been a whole group of millennials that 66 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: are about forty. 67 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: If you are a millennial, if you are a young 68 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 4: white millennial male, you've basically gone through, let's just say it, 69 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: a modern day quasi Jim Crow in industry after industry 70 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: where you were systematically excluded and they all got screwed. 71 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: Y are some of the people those are? I mean, 72 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 4: I guess gen z is who Charlie cared about the most. 73 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: But so many of the people who were saying are 74 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: disasters who haven't married, haven't settled down. There are these 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 4: people who just spent their entire twenty five to forty range. 76 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: They got hit by the Great Recession, and then just 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 4: let's just say it systematic discrimination in American life. 78 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess we're getting into it. 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: I guess we are. We are getting into it. I mean, 80 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: we are gonna bring HOL'USI wild, Yeah, we're talking about 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: Whiles with him. But but I mean, listen, it's if 82 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: you're turning i'd say, priabe between if you're between the 83 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: ages like thirty five and forty five, this probably could 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: have affected you, right, And if you're thirty thirty, thirty 85 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: to forty five, you know, And we rage against the 86 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: marriage rates, we rage against the low fertility rates. Let 87 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 3: we rage against the fact that home ownership has the 88 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 3: average meeting new home buyer is at like forty years old. 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: We talk about all these ills, but what is really 90 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: driving down the average. It's these commissars of wokeness that 91 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: came in right around. 92 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: That's actually not who the article blames. It's not the 93 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 4: commissars of wokeness necessarily. All right, this is the interesting thing. 94 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: So just so you guys, I think it's connected. 95 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: So you can look this all up again. It's the 96 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: Lost Generation. It's a very long article on Compact magazine. 97 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 4: This was a huge number of personalities on X we're 98 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: discussing this. It's gonna be one of the most read articles. 99 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: Of the year. 100 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 4: On the right, Jacobs by Jacob Savage, who is a 101 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: writer based in Los Angeles, and he tells his own story. 102 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 4: He was trying to become a TV or film writer 103 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: in Los Angeles, which that's long been a job. A 104 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: ton of young white guys get did you want to 105 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: go there trying to be a writer? 106 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: I was trying to be a right, you have no 107 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 3: idea how like internalized all of this was exactly exactly. 108 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 3: So that's a job a ton of I mean, you know, 109 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 3: artsy young men. 110 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: They want to be a lot of them want to 111 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 4: be journalists, some of them want to be film writers, 112 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: some of them want to go into academia. And it's 113 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 4: really focused on those art you know, the industry. 114 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: Is what's interesting though, as somebody to live this a 115 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: little bit, it wasn't really artsy young men. It's really analytical, 116 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: sharp minded. That's the people that are driven to go 117 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: into the writing and producing fields. They're there. If they 118 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: were in a different city, they would have been you know, engineers. 119 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. It's like the same thing. It's the 120 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: same profile. These are like wells get hit. So it's 121 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: pro focusing on especially those slightly more creative fields or academia. 122 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 4: It's a creative journalism, arts, creativity, and how around twenty 123 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 4: fourteen you start getting the woke bubble, which is, you know, 124 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: you need more diversity in all things. 125 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: You need to have more women, women of color, people 126 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: of color. 127 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: It's the line they had. It reminds us of things 128 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 4: that were viral a decade ago. That people have forgotten. 129 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: Like there was a thing called Oscar's so White. 130 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: It was a hashtag. We still have hashtag campaigns. Before 131 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: they bought X he got rid of the hashtags. They 132 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: got Chris Rock to host the Oscars. 133 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Oscars so white was just everyone nominated for 134 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: the acting the major acting categories was white that year. 135 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 3: Okay. 136 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: And so suddenly there was just this demand you need 137 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: to have diversity. 138 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: And what it points out. 139 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: Again and again is the boomers and Gen xers. There's 140 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: all these older, older white men who actually are already 141 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 4: established in fields, and they just froze it in amber. 142 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 4: And so what it became was they would just have 143 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 4: everyone beneath them would be used to hit those diversity metrics. 144 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 4: So it's not, oh, we're going to increase diversity by 145 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: making fifteen percent of the established people leave and replace them. 146 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 4: It's we're going to just categorically elimin eight young white 147 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: men from the pipeline. 148 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: For all of these jobs. And that's exactly it turns 149 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: out exactly. 150 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: What it looks like, all of these people who are 151 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 4: wanted to go into these fields, they just could not 152 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: get jobs in them at all. 153 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: And you really think what. 154 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: Sort of impact that has to be on one psychology, 155 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: which I know people who have gone through that. 156 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 3: I can absolutely say, very certainly, I experienced just this. 157 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: I experienced just this when I was living in LA 158 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: where just it was common just to say, oh, well, 159 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: too bad, you're you're a white guy. Like you know, 160 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: it would this would be a lot easier if you 161 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: if you had something we could throw out there, like 162 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: are you gay? I'm not even kidding they say that, 163 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: they mentioned being gay. 164 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: They always will have something need, they'll be something, they'll 165 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 4: have like some. 166 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: American Indian ancestry. They pulled the Live Warren and I 167 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: was I was literally like, no, I'm a white heterosexual Christian. Yeah, 168 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: and they're like sorry, good luck. 169 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: And then the number is in here. It's worth reading 170 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 4: just for all of the numbers. In twenty eleven, fourteen 171 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: years ago, white men were forty eight percent of low 172 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: level TV writers. In twenty twenty four, thirteen years later, 173 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 4: they were eleven point nine percent. 174 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 3: That's dramatic. In let's see, editorial staff went from fifty 175 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 3: three percent white and eight or fifty three percent male 176 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 3: and eighty nine percent white in twenty thirteen to thirty 177 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: six six percent male and sixty six percent white tenure. 178 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 4: Track faculty at Harvard thirty nine percent white men in 179 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: the humanities to eighteen percent. And when that means is 180 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: if you're dropping that much and you're not cutting off 181 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: the people who are in early, it's that it's a 182 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: total cut off at the bottom. Yeah, and so you 183 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 4: just took a group white men. There's still about twenty 184 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 4: five percent of young American adults a little bit more 185 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: even twenty five to thirty percent. And let's be frank 186 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: they're a pretty talented thirty percent. They're more likely to 187 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: complete college, more likely to develop a lot of skills 188 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: than some other groups that have been favored in America 189 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 4: the last decade. And yet they're just treated as practical 190 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: untouchables in a huge number of fields. And it's bad 191 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 4: for them. It's totally derailed their lives because if you 192 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 4: were subject of this discrimination for the past five years, 193 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 4: ten years, that ruins your career. That's the period where 194 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 4: you need to get off the ground and you're just 195 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: stuck in entry level stuff. And on top of that, 196 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: it fried American meritocracy. But why are TV shows so bad? 197 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: Maybe because they didn't hire good writers to do it. 198 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: Why is z academia so roden because they hired only 199 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: people who filled a racial checkbox instead of the best scholars. 200 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: Over and over they do that. 201 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: And I'm sure our viewers are listeners, they may have 202 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 4: lived this themselves. Or if you're a parent, you may 203 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: have seen your son struggle through this because he couldn't 204 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: get a foot in the door anywhere and it wasn't 205 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 4: really his fault. 206 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I And not to mention we talk about student 207 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: loans pushing off family formation or whatever, right buying a home. Well, 208 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 3: if you can't even get into the job market, if 209 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: you can't start the career to get up to the 210 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 3: rungs of power to earn more money, then that's why 211 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: marriage rates are going to collapse. That's why fertility rates 212 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: are going to collapse. 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That's Patriotmobile dot com slash Charlie. 244 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: Or call nine seven two Patriot and make the switch today. 245 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Compact Magazine, Anti White Stuff. I mean there was this. 246 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: In a loss generation. I think that's actually the way 247 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 4: we link it with the Swedes story, because that's a 248 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 4: good point. Charlie would talk about this. There's this real 249 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: sense of compared to a lot of drugs, marijuana, whether 250 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 4: you support leading it or not, there's this big Charlie 251 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 4: would talk about this, it's a drug that sort of 252 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: dulls the ambitions, dulls the mind. There is, for a 253 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 4: good reason, a strong association with between being a really 254 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 4: heavy marijuana user and just being kind of a loser. 255 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'll never forget. When I was going 256 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: back to my LA days, I remember I met this 257 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: one guy, believe it or not, he was a worship leader, 258 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: Oh wow, and he was an avid marijuana user. But 259 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: he was like, if I don't use it, I will 260 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: get massively depressed. And he would he acknowledged I he has, 261 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: he had an addiction, he had a problem. I just thought, 262 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: why would you ever want to be stuck on something 263 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 3: that has so much mastery over you? You know, and 264 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 3: and anyways, But a couple of things that we need 265 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: to sort of establish here. If you are find yourself 266 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: of a certain generation and you and you still think, 267 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: you know, weed's fine, It's not the worst thing. Modern 268 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: weed is not at all what like you know, the 269 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: hippie era weed. It's stronger stuff, stronger, way more potent, 270 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 3: way more potent. Uh So let's do it this way. Actually, 271 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to give Trump some credit here, h This 272 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: is Trump on fentanyl, and he is a thousand percent 273 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 3: spot on play cut one sixty five. 274 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 5: Today, I'm taking one more step to protect Americans from 275 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 5: the scourge of deadly fentanyl flooding into our country with 276 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: this historic executive order I will sign today. We're formerly 277 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 5: classedifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, which is 278 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: what it is. No bomb does what this is doing. 279 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 5: Two hundred to three hundred thousand people die every year 280 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 5: that we know. So we're formally classifying fentanyl as a 281 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 5: weapon of mass destruction. 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: Weapon I mean listen, it's a funny classification. It's a 283 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: funny classification, but candidly, you know, and we used to 284 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: talk about this with Charlie all the time. The drug 285 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: epidemic kills more people than Ukraine, or kills more Americans 286 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 3: than you know, basically anything. I'm just thinking about how 287 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: that classification. 288 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 4: I have to imagine that means if you're transporting like 289 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: fentonal ingredients, they can just throw you in prison for. 290 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: Life or bomb your boat. 291 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 5: Yeah. 292 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, attempting to make weapons and mass destruction 293 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 4: is a super duper federal. 294 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. But here's here's the other side of the drug 295 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: news today, which is interesting. We have so much drug news. 296 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 6: Uh. 297 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: CNN says that President Trump is considering, uh well, changing 298 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: the classification of weed. I think is the right way 299 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: to say it. Some are saying legalize marijuana. I'm not. 300 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: I'm not sure exactly he said. He said himself, he's considering. 301 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: He was asked in the Oval Office for He says, 302 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: we're considering it, and it would be a reclassification from 303 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: Schedule one, I believe to Schedule three. Right, Schedule one 304 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 4: is sort of the most restricted, most controlled drugs. The 305 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: other stuff on it. Uh, there's stuff like heroin, meth 306 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 4: those are schedule one drugs. Schedule three in comparison is ketamine, steroids, testosterone, what. 307 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 3: You would say, ketamine, it's on the list in the 308 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: hill in the hills are We'll get to that. 309 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 4: Indeed, but Charlie thought a lot about this, and it 310 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: was one of the controversial things he said at least 311 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 4: once multiple times. I think that this is one of 312 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 4: his positions that got him the most pushback on campus, 313 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 4: more than his abortion views, which is he just he 314 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: opposed legalizing weed. A lot of young people I really 315 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: like it, but I think I do. At the same time, 316 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: I think the tide is shifting a bit. I think 317 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 4: we probably reached peak marijuana enthusiasm. 318 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: We had that win in Florida. 319 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 320 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: Maybe let's let's play the clip here on two. His 321 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 3: is from CNN. 322 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 7: The President could use in fact against his Democratic opposition 323 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 7: and say, hey, you know what, Democrats have talked the talk, 324 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 7: but I'm actually gonna walk the walk when it comes 325 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 7: to legalizing marijuana. 326 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: Okay, So what are the prediction markets saying about the chances? 327 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: Then? 328 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 8: Here? 329 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, so what's the chance that this actually happens? 330 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 7: I think there's a pretty gosh darn good chance it's 331 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 7: gonna happen at least the corner of the prediction markets. 332 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 7: So the chance that the US reschedule is marijuana before 333 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 7: the end of Trump's term. 334 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 4: Look at this, eighty eight percent know it's funny because 335 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: you see seventy two percent of young people approve of it. 336 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: Maybe they do, but I just I hope it changes 337 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: because you can smell it here in Phoenix. You can 338 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: smell it a ton if you're in DC. It's really disgusting. 339 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: It's a big driver of making public places feel dirtier. 340 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: It's a much more rank smell than even cigarette smoke 341 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 4: was in the past. I think Charlie had very good 342 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 4: reason to dislike it. Yeah, so I'm hoping people they 343 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 4: don't reclassify it. 344 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 3: We have a clip from Charlie that I wish we 345 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: could have got to, but it's I listen, I think 346 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: I think the prediction markets are probably right. Yeah, Trump 347 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 3: seeing a political opportunity, But listen, sometimes we disagree with 348 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: the president. I remember Charlie was actually asked by our 349 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: next guest, Mark Alburn, what do you disagree with on 350 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: the president? And he said weed yeah, so you know it. Listen, 351 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: we still disagree. I think it's a loser drug. I 352 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: get it why people try and bend their rationale to 353 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: make it something less than that. I'm telling you modern weed, 354 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: especially when you take it young, could really cause mental illness. 355 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: It's a drug you could argue legalize it if you're 356 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: after thirty or something because it really cooks a developing 357 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 4: Yes it. 358 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: Does, and so do not take it lightly. We're also 359 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 3: going to have a debate on weed. I'm going to 360 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: be moderating it at amfests, So Alex Barentson and the 361 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: editor in chief of Reason. 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This 386 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: is a very important thing because you might say, but Charlie, 387 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: if we legalize it, it's all just going to be 388 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 2: parents that have to just parent their kids. Who are 389 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: you to say that if an adult wants to just 390 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: be able to get high, they should not be able 391 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: to get high. 392 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: It sounds good. 393 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: That is an oversimplification of the society we are living in. Firstly, 394 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: in legalized states, the perception of marijuana's harm among teenagers 395 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: fell by over twenty percent in ten years from the 396 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 2: Monitoring Monitoring the Future survey, making early initiation more likely. 397 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: How about traffic deaths. 398 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: After Colorado legalized, marijuana related traffic fatalities road rose one 399 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty one percent between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty. 400 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 3: Let's do one ninety four as well. 401 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: Heavy weed users are sixty percent more likely to miss 402 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: work seventy five percent more likely to show poor job performance, 403 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: according to the Journal of Occupational and Environmental Medicines. Let 404 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 2: me put pause. If we want to defeat the Chinese, 405 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: is more drug use better or worse? If we want 406 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: to go to Mars, If we want to build great things, 407 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: if we want to start new companies, if more employees 408 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: are using weed, does that make us stronger or weaker? 409 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm with Charlie on all this. I am it's he 410 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 3: really was. He was upgrading his message on that more 411 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 3: and more. You got to understand there, It's like our 412 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: whole society, the structures that keep it up, the institutions, 413 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: the morals, the values is you keep whittling away at 414 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 3: these things, even if it's on the edges, Eventually that 415 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 3: gets to the core. And we're seeing that across all 416 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 3: of our culture. 417 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 4: Think about what we talked about at the start with 418 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 4: that article, all the young men just being excluded from 419 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 4: every career and our fix is okay, Well, you can 420 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: now have legal weed and legal gambling and legal every 421 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: other addiction ever and just stay doped up, don't care 422 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 4: that much. 423 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 3: Please don't overthrow, play video games, get high, vape, and 424 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: gamble all your money away that you don't have because 425 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 3: you don't have a job. Sounds like a good recipe 426 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: for success. Yeah. 427 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: By the way, the studies are incredible. Heavy marijuana use 428 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 2: is linked to five times higher risk of psychosis and 429 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: young adults from the Lance in Psychiatry twenty nineteen Colorado 430 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: er visits for cannabis and do psychosis trippled right after legalization. 431 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, there's another study in addition the 432 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 2: one that Blake sent me of an average drop of 433 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: eight IQ points by the Dundon and study in p 434 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: NAS twenty twelve. 435 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: See I miss that you're just feeding Charlie's studies. Blake, 436 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: get me stuff on weed? Yeah, get him stuff on weed. 437 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 4: We just start rattling on air exactly. I mean I 438 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 4: just completely agree now. Now, so let's just be very 439 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 4: clear about what is actually you know, So what's happening here? 440 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: President Trump is considering a Medicare pilot program that would 441 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 4: provide some seniors' access to CBD. Okay, and reclassifying marijuana 442 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: as a Schedule three would ease tax burdens, banking limits, 443 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 4: research barriers, and it could attract institutional pharmaceutical investors. 444 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: What's wrong with that, Blake? 445 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Why? 446 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't it be good? You know, by the way, 447 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: CBD is different than THHD. 448 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: Okay? 449 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: Could we just yeah? Well, so yeah, we do what 450 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: we do a few emails here, Yeah, let's do What 451 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: are people thinking about? 452 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 9: Uh? 453 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: Missy, says Andrew and Blake. I am so anti weed. 454 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: I have watched and I have seen it ruin people's lives. 455 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: My brother is an avid user who's been using it 456 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 4: since elementary school. He's suffered mental health problems. He self 457 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: medicates with it. It has not served him well. He 458 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: is violent, paranoid, has continual police contact. As an older man, 459 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: he has had kids. Married the woman after several years, 460 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 4: and he lives with them anywhere he is able, which 461 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: is they say campgrounds and motels. He's lost the kids, 462 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 4: they've been removed, but the liberal city they live in 463 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 4: subsidizes their lifestyles. 464 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,360 Speaker 3: There's stories like that. They're Paul and thank you, that's 465 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 3: an amazing email. I mean horrible subject. Yeah, I mean 466 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: that is that's horrible. By the way, he used to 467 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: have this pastor that would say, you know, if it 468 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: wasn't for the Lord, that he'd be divorced, childless, and 469 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: you know, drunk on his couch at home or something. 470 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: I mean, and you've you do hear these stories where 471 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: these vices really do grab one hundred percent of somebody's 472 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: life and they take them down these really destructive paths. 473 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: There's one hundred percent guarantee to not do that if 474 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: you just don't even try the drugs in the first place, 475 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, if you don't go down 476 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 3: those routes in the first place. So why is a 477 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 3: society should we be making it easier for young people 478 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 3: to use it? And Charlie even quoted that one study 479 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: that it was like the perception of the harms of 480 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 3: marijuana drop most legal their first thing they think too 481 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: on whether something is right or wrong. Is it's not 482 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: the Bible, it's not really moral reasoning. It's just what's 483 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: the law say? Is it illegal? Is it illegal? 484 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: And that doesn't mean everything we think is wrong should 485 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: be banned, but it should at least guide our intuitions 486 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 4: on that sort of thing. Yeah, things that are massively 487 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 4: harmful to society, it might be a good idea to 488 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: sharply restrict or ban them. 489 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is where we have to do our job. 490 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: I mean, we're not listen, We're we're not. There is 491 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: a there is a sort of live and let live, 492 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 3: I would say, aspect to American life, to the American ethos, 493 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: you know, we have a counterpoint. Raven says. 494 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 4: I'm a sixty five year old grandma with MS. I 495 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: was prescribed medication that almost killed me. Now I use 496 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 4: weed and prohibition does not work. My mom uses weed 497 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 4: gummies to sleep instead of prescription medication. Maha has this 498 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 4: afraid of everything, including tail and all. Why do you 499 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: want to. 500 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 3: Take away our weed? Yeah, that's all that's the center there. 501 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm open minded to medical for elderly people. 502 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: You know, glaucoma what you know, all of these these uses. 503 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 3: I'm open minded to it. I'm just saying, what when 504 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 3: you when you go on these legalization kicks, the people 505 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: that are going to get most impacted at young people. 506 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 4: It'd be funny if you can just say you have 507 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 4: to be over fifty or something. And America is so 508 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: not used to having laws like that. We're used to 509 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 4: just you know, becoming an adult and everything's available. 510 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: But I could. 511 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 4: I think it'd be an interesting thing to consider, because 512 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 4: I do think the harms are so much greater for 513 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 4: young people. If you're a retiree and you want to 514 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: get baked, you're not derailing society in the process. 515 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: Are you, though? Well, I mean it's like, honestly, here's 516 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: here's my thing. It's people make this argument, well, it's 517 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: not affecting anybody else. I reject that premise completely, because 518 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 3: once you start removing the stigma from things, once you 519 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: start legalizing things in a general sense, as you saw 520 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: from the study, young people start going, oh, it's not bad, 521 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it too. 522 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: China used to be was the world's most powerful country, 523 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 4: and they went through their century of humiliations. 524 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 3: You know what drove it drug addiction opium. 525 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 4: They all got hooked on opium and they started to 526 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 4: recover when they well, they killed all the opium dealers. 527 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: Well that's I don't think we're ready for that. 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You know, 559 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: it's good to see you. 560 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 561 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 6: I mean you think I would know not to get 562 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 6: on the express when I need the local, But yeah, whatever, anyway, 563 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 6: you look with you. 564 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 3: Good glad to have you. You look warm. I'm glad 565 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 3: I'm in Phoenix. Right. Yeah, I was gonna say it 566 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 3: looks looks chilly. 567 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: It's a local, all right. 568 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 3: Well listen, so Mark, everybody's talking about it. I've gotten 569 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 3: blown up by like five or six reporters this morning 570 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: about what do you make of the Susie thing? 571 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: What do you know? 572 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: And I was like, no comment, I don't know, we're 573 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: going to say that for the show mark what do 574 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 3: we make of this? She called jd Vance a conspiracy theorist. 575 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 3: She fought Musk taking drugs ketamine at ketemy user, which 576 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 3: I don't think is actually that's not secret, called him 577 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: an odd duck. He's admitted he's taken it. Him continuing 578 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 3: to take it is more. I think we all sort 579 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: of knew he kept taking it, but I mean, you know, 580 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: it's just Muskus. It must is an odd duck. What 581 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 3: do we make of this? A lot of people say 582 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: that this is that she was, this is her her 583 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 3: exit plan. I'm hearing other people say they thought it 584 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: was for a book interview that was gonna that was 585 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: gonna come after the admin. What's the truth? 586 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 6: Well, first of all, a normal White House official who 587 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 6: said these things would be fired, but instead you're seeing 588 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 6: rallying around Susie. Can go on X and see plenty 589 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 6: of people senators and White House officials saying, you know, 590 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 6: we love Susie echoing her line that this was all 591 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 6: immediate hit job, and the Vice president was asked about it, 592 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 6: he was pretty supportive too. My guess, and I don't 593 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 6: know this, but my guess, just from knowing the two 594 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 6: people involved, the guy who was writing it down and 595 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 6: the white at sweeping staff, is my guess is she 596 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 6: thought this stuff was off the record. That would be 597 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 6: my guess, and she didn't intend to say it. Now, 598 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 6: some of it, if you guys just said, it's not 599 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 6: super like controversial, and some of it's emphatically true, but 600 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 6: it's a little bit off key for her to be saying. 601 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 6: She's not someone who seeks the limelight. She's not someone 602 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 6: it's the opposite. She puts a premium on people getting along. So, 603 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 6: like I said, if I had to guess, I guess 604 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 6: that she didn't think this stuff was for publication. It 605 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 6: was a misunderstanding between her and Chris Whipple. 606 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's put up one seventy one. This is 607 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 3: her tweet. She says. The article published earlier early this 608 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: morning is a disingenuous, framed hit piece on me and 609 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: the finest president, white House staff and cabinet in history. 610 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: Significant content context was disregarded, and much of what I 611 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: and others said about the team and the president was 612 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: left out of the story. So the part that I 613 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 3: that doesn't scare with a lot of people, though Mark 614 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: is and she goes on to praise the Trump administration. 615 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: The part that I can't square here is that there's 616 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: this picture of all of them posing. You know, Caroline 617 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 3: Levitt is there right, there's the picture. So obviously they 618 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: this was you know, they weren't done under this interview, 619 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: was not done under duress or something. So why the 620 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 3: picture does that? What does that tell you? 621 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: Do you know who? 622 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 6: I feel sorry for now. I feel sorry for people 623 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 6: only listening to this as a podcast, because man, that's 624 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 6: an awesome picture. 625 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: It is striking. 626 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: It's like it's like the Avengers meet the West Wing. Look. 627 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 6: Look, she obviously talked to the guy. And it'll be 628 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 6: interesting to see if this does escalate her claim that 629 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 6: the context is missing. If the guy really does have 630 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 6: audio tapes of everything, we'll see if the context is missing. 631 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 6: The reality is, you guys know how a lot of 632 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 6: reporters are. And I'm not accusing Chris Whipple of this 633 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: because I haven't heard the whole thing, but I've been 634 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 6: in joint interviews with reporters where they'll say, uh, They'll say, like, uh, 635 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 6: you know, we're colleague mister Jones. 636 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: What's he like? 637 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 6: Oh he's awesome. What's mister Jones like? He's awesome? What's 638 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 6: mister Jones like? Oh he's great. What's mister Jones like? 639 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 6: I really like mister Jones. H Seriously, a lot of 640 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 6: people don't really like mister Jones. Are you sure you 641 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 6: like mister Jones? You say, well, there are some people 642 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 6: who don't really like mister Jones. And then the story 643 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 6: comes out and it says we asked them and they 644 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 6: said there's some people who don't like mister Jones. It's 645 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 6: like it's like, it's like, you know, she could be right. 646 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 6: It wouldn't be the first time a reporter took the 647 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 6: context away. But let's see if they're audio tid. But again, 648 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 6: it's it's an interesting story. I know why you guys 649 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 6: are talking about it. I talked about it on my show. 650 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 6: I'll talk about it on my show later today. But 651 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 6: the norm of a situation like this where people would. 652 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: Say, is Trump mad at her? Is she going to 653 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: lose her job? 654 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 6: I just don't think that's even a possibility because of 655 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 6: how well liked Susie is and what a great job 656 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 6: the President and other people in the White House thinks 657 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 6: she's doing. So let's see if we're still talking about 658 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 6: this tomorrow. Now, if the reporter decides he's got to 659 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 6: put out the context that could keep this thing alive, 660 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 6: because it's easy, it's very right from the Trump playbook 661 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 6: to say hit job. But let's see if it was 662 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 6: actually a hit job. 663 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 4: Well, one quest thought I had is they talk about 664 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 4: the prosecutions, sort of the stuff aimed at Comy at 665 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 4: Leticia James, and she talks about that how she's sort 666 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 4: of tried to put a ninety day cap I think 667 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 4: is the word and the piece on retaliation type stuff, 668 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 4: but that he's going to keep doing it. Could that 669 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 4: lead to judges citing this interview to justify throwing out charges. 670 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: And I could see that being a way this would 671 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 4: turn the President against Susie if he sees her as 672 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 4: derailing something he really wants to get done. 673 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I theoretically I agree with you. 674 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 6: I don't know that it would be admissible, and I 675 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 6: don't know that that would turn the President against Susie. 676 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 6: One of the things that this will put in sharp 677 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 6: relief for some is amongst them, anything Susie has done 678 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 6: in this job that's really well served the president is 679 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,479 Speaker 6: she has constrained it. When people say in my business 680 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 6: and Democrats say, you know, Trump justis yes, people around 681 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 6: him unlike in the first terms. Well, the fact is 682 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 6: he had people around him the first term who disagreed 683 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 6: with him, but they did it ineffectively. People like the 684 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 6: Secretary of State Rix Snillerson would disagree with Trump, but 685 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 6: he wouldn't get his way. Trump would just President Trump 686 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 6: would do what he wanted to do. One of the 687 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 6: undertold stories is when Susie Wild sees a problem or 688 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 6: others do. She's good at talking to the president and 689 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 6: trying to restrain him. So if she restrained in this 690 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 6: area some things, and the article suggests she did probably 691 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 6: in the president's interest, and even the president may well 692 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 6: be grateful because he knows sometimes he does go too far. 693 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the reveal, is that this is the restraint Trump. 694 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: You know. 695 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, so I got to play this clip here, 696 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,479 Speaker 3: Mark because JD got asked about he had a big 697 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: event this morning, and I thought he did a brilliant 698 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: job here one ninety five. 699 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 8: Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe 700 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 8: in the conspiracy theories that are true. And by the way, 701 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 8: Susie and I have joked in private and in public 702 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 8: about that for a long time. For example, I believed 703 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 8: in the crazy conspiracy theory back in twenty twenty and 704 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 8: that it was stupid to mask three year olds at 705 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 8: the height of the COVID pandemic, that we should actually 706 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 8: let them develop some language skills. 707 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: You know. 708 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 8: I believed in this crazy conspiracy theory that the media 709 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 8: and the government were covering up the fact that Joe 710 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 8: Biden was clearly unable to do the job. 711 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 3: I mean, if all we get out of this ultimately 712 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 3: is another rendition of JD. Vance's political talents, then you know, 713 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: so be it. But that is a fun way to 714 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: take it. And you're right. It's almost like what you're 715 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: not hearing is the actual insight here. You're not hearing backbiting, 716 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: You're not hearing people going for Susie. But you've heard 717 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 3: these rumors too, Mark, that Susie was going to be 718 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: out at the end of the year, that Trump was 719 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 3: hit soured do you believe there's any truth to that. 720 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: I done first on terms of JD. 721 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 6: Vance's greatest pivot since Bob Lanier, just you know, move 722 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 6: right away from trouble. 723 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: I don't believe that's the case. I based on everything 724 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: I know. 725 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 6: People are very pleased with her, and it's hard to 726 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 6: do that job for any president, but particularly for this president, 727 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 6: with a very strong willed vice president, strong wild cabinet, 728 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 6: a lot of high wire act operations. As far as 729 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 6: I know, she's been in very good stead and good 730 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 6: standing and very committed to MAGA and the agenda. You 731 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 6: saw her the other day in a rare interview that 732 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 6: she also did. She said, you know, she hadn't told 733 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 6: the president yet, but he's going to be out there 734 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 6: doing stuff. And Susie's one of the few people who's 735 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 6: ever been involved in Trump World for the last decade 736 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 6: who really has the confidence to tell the president when 737 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 6: she's thinking, thought, faith and like I said, I think 738 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 6: I used that. 739 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: I don't know what he'll think of this. 740 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 6: Interview, but if the Vice president's inn the indication she 741 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 6: ain't going anywhere, then just going to joke about it, 742 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 6: blame the media and move on. 743 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: I've got to ask you about this Brown University story. Mark. 744 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: I saw some video of you circulating yesterday where you 745 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: said that the parents had been informed that it perhaps 746 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 3: could have been a targeted hit on Ella Cook, obviously 747 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: the vice president of the Brown University Republican Club. What 748 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: can you tell us about this? 749 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 6: Well, just to correct you a little bit, I didn't 750 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 6: say the parents had been informed that I'd been told 751 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 6: by people that they had been I've not talked to 752 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 6: the parents. I've not talked to law enforcement. So I 753 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 6: don't want to spread anything that's false. I don't want 754 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 6: to be involved in it. But this is what I 755 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 6: can say a couple things. First of all, imagine that 756 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 6: this shooting occurred on a southern conservative campus, and imagine 757 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 6: one of the two people killed was the vice president 758 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 6: of the Democrat College for Public Democrats. Imagine what the 759 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 6: media would be saying. And if law enforcement in a 760 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 6: conservative town had done a very bumbling job in the investigation, 761 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 6: imagine what people would be saying. Okay, that's number one. 762 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 6: Number two, there are some peculiar things here, besides the 763 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 6: fact that law enforcement seems to have done a kind 764 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,760 Speaker 6: of a bad job so far, most of these killers 765 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 6: they keep firing until they kill themselves or they're shot 766 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 6: by law enforcement or captured. They're rare that they kill 767 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 6: and then leave. This doesn't happen that often, right, if 768 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 6: it's not targeted. And like I said, the three separate 769 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 6: sources asserted to me that the family had been told this. 770 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 6: I just don't know if it's true. I just know 771 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 6: that in the absence of clarity of why this person 772 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 6: is still at large and why they left after killing 773 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 6: two people, one of which was this young woman, in 774 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 6: the absence of clarity, it's notable that on a very 775 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 6: liberal campus you had a very visible conservative. So I 776 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 6: just think it's something people, in the absence of clarity, 777 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 6: something we should consider, because imagine, if that's true, it's 778 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 6: a very significant and big story. 779 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 3: It's a huge story, and you know, our thoughts and 780 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: prayers are literally with Ella Cook's family. It's just terrible. Yeah, 781 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 3: it hits close to home, as you can imagine. 782 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: Marketing of course. 783 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned the bumbling investigation. I mean, you 784 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 3: got eight hundred cameras on that campus, and I'm told 785 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 3: that this particular building was on the edge of campus, 786 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 3: so that's why they were relying on ring cameras, but 787 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 3: either way, it's shocking that we don't have a suspect 788 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 3: for something this high profile. Mark Halpec, thank you for 789 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 3: making the time. I'm gonna let you get inside here. 790 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: Good to see you, gentlemen. 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