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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's March

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Speaker 4: nineteen twenty twenty six. We got to get right into

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Speaker 4: this because the breaking news story over the evening was

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Speaker 4: about a place I'd never heard of called South Pars

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Speaker 4: gas Field in Iran.

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Speaker 2: And here to help make some sense of it. Right

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show, Eric.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Thanks Andre he Blake.

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Speaker 4: What's going on, guys, So let me just read part

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Speaker 4: So he says, Israel, out of anger for what has

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Speaker 4: at a major facility known as South Pars gas Field

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Speaker 4: in Iran. Relatively small section of the whole has been hit.

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Speaker 4: The United States knew nothing about this particular attack, and

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Speaker 4: the country of Cutter Qatar has was in no way,

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Speaker 4: this has now been i would say contradicted by Israeli

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Speaker 5: Well, Andrew, I've been doing this for nearly forty years.

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Speaker 5: I know Pete Hex said very well on positive. Trump

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Speaker 4: But the bottom line here is eric it's causing this

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Speaker 5: That's simply fine. So look at look at oil kind

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Speaker 5: Correct one hundred percent. We are absolutely sensitive to the

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Speaker 4: Imptin. That just strengthened the regime. Sorry to cut you

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Speaker 5: Maybe not, but they could stay at ninety eighty five.

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Speaker 5: But the reality is they like one hundred dollars print

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Speaker 10: Eric.

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Speaker 4: What are we looking at in terms of inflation? You know,

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Speaker 5: There's a petroleum input some somehow in there as well.

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Speaker 5: It's in almost every single toilet paper. There's petroleum in

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Speaker 4: There, Eric Bowling, time is of the essence. It's you

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Speaker 4: made the case for urgency. Thanks Eric, we'll talk.

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Speaker 5: To Thank you guys. Thank you guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right, John Solomon joins us.

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Speaker 4: Now, John, it's great to have you back, because there's

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Speaker 2: On the intel front.

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Speaker 4: I gotta hit this first though, before I wanted to

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Speaker 2: But there was kind of a bombshell.

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Speaker 4: So obviously everybody's aware that Joe Kent resigned the letter.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it on.

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Speaker 4: The show yesterday, and then this comes out yesterday evening,

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Speaker 2: Well, let's not actually skip it.

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Speaker 4: Basically, he's under investigation for leaking classified documents. The investigation

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Speaker 2: What do you know, John.

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Speaker 11: Solomon, Yeah, that is an accurate description what we know.

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Speaker 10: Stay's intact.

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Speaker 11: But if you go into the civilian side and you

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Speaker 13: He said a lot of things in that letter. Ultimately,

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Speaker 11: of some people, and not ready for what he's about

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Speaker 11: to do.

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Speaker 4: Well, John, I mean, you know, to be fair to Tulsi,

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Speaker 4: you could you could look at the same intel here

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Speaker 4: and come up with different conclusions. I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: any shocker that maybe Toulsi is less interventionist than some

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Speaker 4: within the ACT.

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Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, so so.

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Speaker 11: But her job wasn't to What I would say is

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Speaker 11: when you serve a president, your job isn't to express

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Speaker 11: your own political opinion or try to give yourself. Your

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Speaker 11: job is to tell the committee what data points did

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Speaker 11: the president have to make decisions? Listen, I think it's

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Speaker 11: perfectly great in America to disagree with the decision your

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Speaker 11: president makes that's our lawful right to do it. It wasn't

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Speaker 11: easy to do under the Biden years. They tried to

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Speaker 11: suppress us lots of times. But in the Trump error,

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Speaker 11: no one's going to stop you from expressing your opinion.

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Speaker 11: But her job as the intelligence chief was to give

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Speaker 11: the data points. And there are data points. You can

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Speaker 11: disagree whether that constitutes an imminent threat, but the opportunity

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Speaker 11: yesterday was to give those data points. We were able

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Speaker 11: to give those data points. I don't think she did

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Speaker 11: as good a job as she could, and I think

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Speaker 11: there was a little bit of virtual signaling going on.

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Speaker 11: When I've covered scores of these hearings over my career,

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Speaker 11: I have never seen an intelligence chief that couldn't put

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Speaker 11: the intelligence in front of the Congress. She could even

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Speaker 11: say she disagreed with it, but she should have at

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Speaker 11: least told us what the intelligence was. We now have

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Speaker 11: those data points, but I think it would have been

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Speaker 11: helpful for people to know what the data was.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough, let's change our focus here. There is

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Speaker 4: so one of these storylines is this China interfering in

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Speaker 4: our elections.

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Speaker 2: Tell us what you've uncovered in your reporting.

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Speaker 11: John, First, we need to remind people because they probably

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Speaker 11: didn't get a lot of coverage here. But two years ago,

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Speaker 11: Great Britain was thrust into national crisis when it was

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Speaker 11: learned that China had hacked into parts of their election

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Speaker 11: voter registration database, just people how they register their data,

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Speaker 11: because it does have your driver's license, your social Security number,

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Speaker 11: or other personal identifying. Great Britain was enormously alarmed. People

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Speaker 11: were fired, there were big hearings and Blue Ribbon commissions.

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Speaker 11: New election security provisions were done. And by the way,

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Speaker 11: the Biden administration expressed enormous alarm that this happened to

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Speaker 11: Great Britain, and they even indicted some of the hackers

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Speaker 11: from China that did this to China.

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Speaker 10: Did this to Great Britain.

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Speaker 11: Here's the dirty secret that the Biden administration in the

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Speaker 11: US Intelligence Committee knew when they were expressing outrage or

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Speaker 11: what happened in Great Britain. It happened here all the

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Speaker 11: way back to twenty twenty, but it was kept a

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Speaker 11: secret from the American public, from the Congress, and it

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Speaker 11: appears from the statements of an intelligence community ambudsman, a

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Speaker 11: civilian that's supposed to protect our interests in the intelligence community,

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Speaker 11: because the ambasman said that the intelligence community, the CIA

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Speaker 11: and others decided to keep this information from the president,

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Speaker 11: the public, and the Congress because they didn't like President

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Speaker 11: Trump and his policies. They actually used georative turns to

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Speaker 11: describe the commander in chief in their own private emails,

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Speaker 11: and they made a decision to put their personal politics

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Speaker 11: ahead of their country and their commander in chiefs need

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Speaker 11: to know, and they just didn't let the country know.

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Speaker 11: So America and Great Britain suffered the same crisis. Americans

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Speaker 11: were kept in the dark. Great Britain reacted with great alarm.

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Speaker 11: I think that's a very get to the bottom of

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Speaker 11: this politicization of these intelligence agencies we talk about in

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Speaker 11: the context of Russia collusion and the fake scandal there.

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Speaker 11: But when you start depriving a president or the intelligence

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Speaker 11: committees of actionable intelligence, you're moving to a point of

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Speaker 11: harming national interests. And that is what the ombudsmen in

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Speaker 11: the Biden era decided to allegend a document that we

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Speaker 11: made public this week.

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Speaker 4: So it then kind of goes to Fulton County, right,

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Speaker 4: so again, and I TLCI Gabbert's testify before the Senate

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Speaker 4: and then say the House, and she obviously was photographed

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Speaker 4: at that Fulton County rate. What do we know about

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Speaker 4: her presence there specifically.

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Speaker 11: I don't think the criminal case here ties to this

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Speaker 11: China stuff. I think the criminal case here ties to

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Speaker 11: the fact that if you're an election administrator in Georgia

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Speaker 11: or Maricopa County, in Arizona, where we also have some

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Speaker 11: investigation grant, and you don't follow your state laws, you

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Speaker 11: don't create equal protection for your voters, it becomes a

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Speaker 11: federal crime. And so the FBI's interest in Georgia and

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Speaker 11: in Arizona was simply to signal that they may prosecute

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Speaker 11: local election administrators because they didn't follow the law. They

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Speaker 11: created exemptions, or didn't do things away the law in

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Speaker 11: their state required, and that becomes a federal offense if

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Speaker 11: it's intentional.

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Speaker 10: I think that's all. I don't know why she showed up.

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Speaker 11: I know of no reason she needed to be there,

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Speaker 11: other than maybe the President asked her.

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Speaker 10: To show up, is what I've been told. That's fine.

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Speaker 10: What we do know is that Tulsi.

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Speaker 11: Gabert has known about this Chinese election intelligence for about

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Speaker 11: eight months and only recently began moving in a direction

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Speaker 11: of declassifying it.

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Speaker 10: Under pressure from Justin News.

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Speaker 11: We've been asking daily for about seven weeks now for

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Speaker 11: Telsea Gabbert to make this available. The first documents we

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Speaker 11: got were not declassified by Telci Gabbert. They were to

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Speaker 11: classified by AVL. Haynes, her predecessor in the Biden administration.

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Speaker 11: The Biden administration and former Biden administration officials were much

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Speaker 11: more willing to talk about how shocked they were that

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Speaker 11: Trump knew or Trump people knew about this Chinese infiltration

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Speaker 11: and didn't act on it. Back then, they were glad

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Speaker 11: to throw some shade on that. But this is a

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Speaker 11: serious matter because the second you know that China got

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Speaker 11: voter registration data, what we learned a few months ago

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Speaker 11: from our reporting about what the FBI learned becomes more important.

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Speaker 11: All Right, voter data is accessed by Chinese intelligence. Then

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Speaker 11: China sends driver's licenses to Chicago pair ohair report and

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Speaker 11: the FBI's Chinese intelligence sources tell them it was effort

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Speaker 11: to send those licenses here so someone could fail file

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Speaker 11: fake ballot requests and vote and stuff the ballot box

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Speaker 11: for Joe Biden. That's what the FBI documents. So we're

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Speaker 11: starting to see it continuum. That doesn't mean that anything

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Speaker 11: ultimately happened, but it was a more organized effort than

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Speaker 11: we were led to believe. And the reason we were

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Speaker 11: not given this information was a political decision by some

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Speaker 11: biased intelligence analysts.

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Speaker 10: That should concern us.

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Speaker 4: All Yeah, that is concerning. I mean, I think Tolcy

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Speaker 4: Gabbert is a star. Yeah, I trust her her motivations

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Speaker 4: here or you know, her political calculations. But I think

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Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. The American people have an interest in

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Speaker 4: knowing as much as we possibly can about election integrity.

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Speaker 10: Give me a star next week, gives me to classifies them?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well amen, all right, thanks John.

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Speaker 9: The online world moves fast, and it's moving even faster

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Speaker 9: these days. That's why TikTok approaches teen safety with families

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Speaker 9: in mind from the start, because discovery and creativity are

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Speaker 9: both one wonderful things, but it's important to make sure

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Speaker 9: that safety comes first as well. On TikTok, teenagers have

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Speaker 9: over fifty built in protections right from when they join.

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Speaker 9: Accounts for routines all start private by default, they're not

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Speaker 9: open to the entire world, and for those under sixteen,

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Speaker 9: direct messages are turned off only their friends can comment

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Speaker 9: on their videos, and that kind of approach matters because

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Speaker 9: feeling confident and comfortable about these platforms your teenagers are

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Speaker 4: All right, I want to tell you guys, we've got

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Speaker 4: some great news. A lot of bad stuff going on

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Speaker 4: in the world. But meanwhile, Turning Point Action is working

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes, and I wanted to make sure we

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Speaker 4: called this out today. We are launching and opening a

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Speaker 4: new office, a new field office in Nevada. Right so,

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Speaker 4: Turning Point Action, you see the beautiful logo there. Our

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Speaker 4: field office is now open in the state of Nevada.

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Speaker 2: Why is this important?

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Speaker 4: Because we are building what we call the red Wall,

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Speaker 4: all right, everybody knows about the Blue Wall. It's Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 4: It's those three pesky states that Democrats have held for

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Speaker 4: election cycle after election cycle until twenty sixteen and twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four when we took it back. But we can

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Speaker 4: take those states off the electoral map in a sense.

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Speaker 4: If we win Arizona, which we are massively active in,

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Speaker 4: if we win New Hampshire, which we're massively active in,

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Speaker 4: which a lot of people don't realize has more registered

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Speaker 4: Republicans than Democrats.

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Speaker 2: You gotta win the indies in that state. That's the key.

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Speaker 4: But still there's more Republicans than Democrats in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 4: And then of course Nevada, which we took back, and

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Speaker 4: notably there's more Republicans registered now in Nevada. For the

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Speaker 4: first time in many decades, actually probably about twenty years,

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Speaker 4: Democrats have had the registration advantage in Nevada. That has

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Speaker 4: now flipped. Republicans now have a small, small advantage.

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Speaker 2: So this is key. So we're hiring.

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Speaker 4: Now hundreds of staffers in these three states, hundreds and

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Speaker 4: hundreds in each state, and we're combining those with a

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Speaker 4: bunch of thousands of volunteers. So in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 4: we had thousands of volunteers that would come in link

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Speaker 4: hands with the paid staff, the ballot chasers on the ground,

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Speaker 4: and we created a machine. We know the machine works.

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Speaker 4: Why because we borrowed a lot of the best practices

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Speaker 4: from the left that had a two decade head start

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Speaker 4: on us in this arena. And so now we're taking ground,

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Speaker 4: we're catching up. We're building the army that will deliver

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Speaker 4: these three states for twenty twenty six and hopefully twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty eight, build that red wall. Blake, you are a

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Speaker 4: master of history. For those who don't understand the significance

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Speaker 4: of the Blue Wall, and maybe they're not aware of

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Speaker 4: the population shifts to the Sun, Bell, explain why this

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, so basically, a lot of blue states

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Speaker 9: have been run badly for a long time, and so

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Speaker 9: that's the first thing you want to start with, is

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Speaker 9: we've got these people have been fleeing from and also

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Speaker 9: just de industrialization, so de industrialization a lot of other factors.

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Speaker 9: They've driven people out of Illinois, they've driven people out

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Speaker 9: of New York, but they've also driven people out of Minnesota. Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

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Speaker 9: All of these states have either lost people or they've

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Speaker 9: slowed to a relative crawl. They're not where immigrants move

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Speaker 9: as much. They're not where Americans moved to seek opportunity.

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Speaker 9: They've moved frankly heavily to mostly Republican controlled states Florida,

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Speaker 9: Arizona historically techs. And every ten years we have that census.

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Speaker 9: It redraws the lines, it reallocates electoral votes. And you know,

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Speaker 9: back in nineteen sixty when Kennedy won, the biggest state

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Speaker 9: was New York. It had almost fifty electoral votes. It's

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Speaker 9: now only in the twenties, I believe, for how many

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Speaker 9: electoral votes it has. And so the Democrats used to

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Speaker 9: be able to rely on, oh, if we can just

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Speaker 9: win Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, it's very, very hard for

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Speaker 9: us to lose an election. But we're getting to the

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Speaker 9: point where even if they win all those states, and

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Speaker 9: as we've seen with President Trump, they don't always win them.

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Speaker 9: Even if they win all of those states, they're still

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Speaker 9: not going to be able to win unless they can

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Speaker 9: snag these Sun Belt states. Now, as we all know,

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Speaker 7: They are a lot of them now more purple.

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Speaker 9: Nevada used to vote very consistently republican, Arizona voted Republican

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Speaker 9: for basically a half century straight.

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Speaker 7: They've gotten more purple.

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Speaker 9: The Democrat plan is flip them, and our is step

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Speaker 9: in there, stop any of that sliding. Make them rock

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Speaker 9: solid rad you know, make them kind of like Florida,

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Speaker 9: where Florida was trending blue and we flipped it back

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Speaker 9: the other way.

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Speaker 4: Just Jack Posobac sending us a note right now. He says,

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Speaker 4: I'm in New Hampshire, Trump signs all over, So that's

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Speaker 4: telling people don't realize New Hampshire is kind of like

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Speaker 4: this beacon, this red dot in the New England area

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Speaker 4: where they tend to have a lot of conservative state level.

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Speaker 4: For whatever reason, they're sending Democrats at the federal level.

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Speaker 4: So we want to stop that. And the ROI and

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Speaker 4: New Hampshire is just the potential ROI is really really

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Speaker 4: favorable for us. If we spend a relatively small amount,

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Speaker 4: we can get a relatively large impact there. But this

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Speaker 4: is a massive, massive day on the calendar for us,

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Speaker 4: having a field office in Nevada. And to Blake's point,

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Speaker 4: how do we do this? We target low propensity conservative

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Speaker 4: leaning voters. Right, These are people that maybe don't show

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Speaker 4: up all the time, but we need that to show up.

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Speaker 4: And it's going to be an even greater challenge without

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Speaker 4: of those polarizing political figures who just happens to draw

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Speaker 4: out the Democrats. They come out to the polls to

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Speaker 4: propensity conservative voters as well. Our challenge in twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: Republicans in office.

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Speaker 2: And that's going to be our challenge.

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Speaker 4: And that's why putting a field office in a place

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Speaker 4: like Nevada is such a big, big milestone.

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Speaker 2: So while all this.

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Speaker 4: Noise and all this distraction's going on, and you got

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Speaker 4: feuding people and podcast wars, whatever, we are doing the

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Speaker 4: quiet work building to make sure that those low prop conservative,

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Speaker 4: right leaning voters get out to the polls. How do

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Speaker 4: we do that? It's a fusion of relational organizing, data

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Speaker 4: driven live data updates every day when we touch base

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Speaker 4: with somebody, we put a note, we learn more about them,

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Speaker 4: and then we build a relationship and we follow up

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Speaker 4: with them. We tell them when the deadlines are, we

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Speaker 4: tell them how to get their ballot in. And every

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Speaker 4: state has different different rules and we follow the rules

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Speaker 4: of each different state. But this is the way that

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Speaker 4: you actually win elections. This is the hard on the

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Speaker 4: ground work that we're actually doing. So if you want

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Speaker 4: to get involved, go to tpaction dot com tpaction dot com.

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Speaker 4: Tyler and the team are doing an amazing job. There's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a whole opening ceremony there in Las Vegas, Nevada.

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Speaker 2: Today, so please get involved. Check it out.

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Speaker 4: If you want to volunteer, if you want to apply

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Speaker 4: for a job, we are hiring like crazy, So big

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Speaker 4: hat tip to the team there.

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Speaker 2: Show the picture one more time, guys.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's just I really want to drive

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Speaker 9: that home. It's always what set Charlie apart. There's a

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Speaker 9: lot of people offering takes about politics. There's a lot

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Speaker 9: of gett offices, open build relationships with ordinary people, actually

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Speaker 9: and our goal is to always remain great about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations to the Turning Point Action team. Phenomenal work here,

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Speaker 4: huge milestone. We're gonna keep Nevada red. Hi folks, Andrew

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Speaker 2: I want to welcome to the show, Lydia moynahan.

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Speaker 4: She's a New York Post columnist and you might have

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Speaker 4: seen her in the many viral clips from CNN Abby

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Speaker 4: Philip Show.

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Speaker 2: I believe it's.

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Speaker 4: Newsnight, Newsnight. All right, welcome to the show, Lydia. It's great,

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Speaker 4: great to have you. It's your first time joining us.

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Speaker 5: I'm to be here.

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Speaker 2: I'm so, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Glad you're you're thrilled to be here. What's thrilled to

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Speaker 4: have you? So let's just start right there. You are

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Speaker 4: a New York Post columnist, you live in the city,

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Speaker 4: and here you are. You're doing Abby Philip, the Abby

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Speaker 4: Philip Newsnight Show. A clip a show that gets clipped,

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Speaker 4: I think more than potentially any other show. Uh, how

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Speaker 4: did this start? And what's it like being on set there?

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Speaker 14: So I've been doing the show now for about six months,

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Speaker 14: I would say, And it's interesting. I think in this

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Speaker 14: world where everyone lives in their own echo chamber, with

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Speaker 14: their own algorithm. I think it's actually great television and

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Speaker 14: great to see people on both sides engaging and talking

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Speaker 14: to each other.

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Speaker 5: And it's interesting.

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Speaker 14: I mean there's times I feel like we're all sharing

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Speaker 14: something that it's a basic fact to me, and a

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Speaker 14: lot of folks there have never even heard of it.

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Speaker 14: And I think, you know, the five on Fox does

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Speaker 14: really well, and people want to see these completely separate

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Speaker 14: echo chambers interact because we live in a country now

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Speaker 14: where you can go about your daily life and be

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Speaker 14: in a complete bubble on social media with the people

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Speaker 14: you interact with in your city and just never be

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Speaker 14: confronted with anything that might challenge your beliefs or your

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Speaker 14: ideas about something.

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Speaker 4: All right, so I have to you and I actually

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Speaker 4: first exchanged texts right after this.

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Speaker 2: We covered it here on the show.

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Speaker 4: Blake had some hot takes on it as well, and

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Speaker 4: that was, of course, when Abby Philip repeatedly and mistakenly

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Speaker 4: said that the ied bombing or attempted bombing was targeting

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Speaker 4: the Mayor's house.

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Speaker 7: But we have to play you have to put some

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Speaker 7: quotes around mistake.

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Speaker 14: And it wasn't an ID. It was a loose grouping

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Speaker 14: of nails and yeah, they didn't.

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Speaker 5: Call it an ID.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why we're simping for terrorists, but that's

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Speaker 4: where we find ourselves.

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Speaker 15: Cut sixteen two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after

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Speaker 15: an attempted terror attack against New York's Mayor Zoron Momdannie,

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Speaker 15: and the House Speaker Mike Johnson says nothing really to

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Speaker 15: condemn those comments.

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Speaker 2: Well, there you have it. She would to be fair.

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Speaker 4: She uh, she corrected the record, So we gotta we

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Speaker 4: gotta be fair to Abby Phillip, your your she's she's

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Speaker 4: a colleague of yours, so I want to be respectfult

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Speaker 4: twenty four This.

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Speaker 15: Morning, I issued a correction first thing in the morning

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Speaker 15: on X for a mistake that I made in last

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Speaker 15: night's show, but I also wanted to do so on

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Speaker 15: air as well. I incorrectly said that the bombs that

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Speaker 15: were thrown by Isis inspired suspects in New York over

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Speaker 15: the weekend were directed at Mayor Mom Donnie.

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Speaker 10: They were not.

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Speaker 15: I failed to catch and correct that mistake in real time,

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Speaker 15: and I take full responsibility for that. And while we

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Speaker 15: do make mistakes, it is important to acknowledge and correct

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Speaker 15: those errors when they happen.

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Speaker 2: All right, classy move.

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Speaker 4: You were on the set though when that happened. What

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like it wasn't corrected in real time.

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Speaker 4: I think you're the other sort of right of center

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Speaker 4: panelists corrected her and she still missed it. What like,

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Speaker 4: what were you thinking as this moment was playing out

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Speaker 4: on TV?

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Speaker 14: Well, look again, I think everyone's just in their silo

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Speaker 14: where maybe they don't even know that what they're saying

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Speaker 14: is incorrect. And I think it was great that she

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Speaker 14: she went out there and did correct it. But I

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Speaker 14: think this is this is just a bigger problem where

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Speaker 14: there isn't really any reality check of.

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Speaker 10: What's going on.

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Speaker 14: And I think it's interesting seeing the way that the

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Speaker 14: mainstream media has it has not covered what, in my

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Speaker 14: mind is frankly one of the most important and most

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Speaker 14: significant stories is the fact that there were four terrorist attacks.

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Speaker 14: I believe all of them by naturalizetizens, so people who

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Speaker 14: were not born here or in the case of the

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Speaker 14: terrorist attack here in New York, both of those men

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Speaker 14: their parents were born in Afghanistan, so there's a lot

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Speaker 14: to discuss there. And of course attacks against Jewish people

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Speaker 14: in a synagogue, there are a lot of things to

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Speaker 14: suss out, and it's interesting in that case, the approach

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Speaker 14: that the mainstream media takes is, let's talk about Islamophobia,

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Speaker 14: and that's of course not the story. The story is

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Speaker 14: that there's actually terrorist attacks and people are shouting all

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Speaker 14: of whu akbar right, they're doing this in the name

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Speaker 14: of religion. And then the angle that is covered it.

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Speaker 14: And we saw this, of course with Zorammdani. I'm sorry

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Speaker 14: to keep harping on him. I know every time we

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Speaker 14: talk I bring him up, Andrew, but this is just

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Speaker 14: the quintessential way of sort of spinning something and making

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Speaker 14: an accusation that somebody's Islamophobic. So he talked about when

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Speaker 14: he was confronted by the fact that he is very

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Speaker 14: close with Hassan Piker, who believes in America deserved nine

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Speaker 14: to eleven, he said, didn't address it, basically just said, oh, well,

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Speaker 14: my aunt, who may or may not be a real person,

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Speaker 14: she got mean looks on the subway after nine to eleven.

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Speaker 14: And it's completely failing to address a very important and

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Speaker 14: real and legitimate issue and then just attacking somebody and

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Speaker 14: saying that they're big at it because they're noticing this pattern,

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Speaker 14: and that's kind of the approach that we saw obviously

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Speaker 14: with Mamdanie, and it's the approach that we're seeing the

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Speaker 14: media takes as well. They're not addressing this issue of wow,

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Speaker 14: there's a terrorist problem. Americans are in danger right now,

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Speaker 14: they're just saying, Oh, anyone who's trying to address that

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Speaker 14: problem is bigoted for noticing it.

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Speaker 4: Blake, what's with the selection bias? What you've been in

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Speaker 4: media and journalism, What is the undercurrent? What is the

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Speaker 7: I think I think it's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 9: There used to be a more balance to a lot

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Speaker 9: of institutions in American life, like the press all always

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Speaker 9: leaned liberal, but leaning liberal in even the sixties, where

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Speaker 9: liberal meant, oh maybe seventy percent of them voted for

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Speaker 9: Kennedy and thirty percent voted for Nixon. But in a

873
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Speaker 9: lot of these newsrooms at major outlets, we're talking ninety

874
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Speaker 9: five five, ninety nine to one, and it breaks down

875
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Speaker 9: your ability to think reasonably about things.

876
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Speaker 7: You don't get questioned.

877
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Speaker 9: You have a lot of assumptions that don't make sense,

878
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 9: but no one's calling you out on them. And there's

879
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Speaker 9: a lot of there's a lot of group thing that

880
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 9: takes over. I've heard accounts, you know, from the New

881
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 9: York Times where here's a classic one from a few

882
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Speaker 9: years ago.

883
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 7: It was pretty obvious right away.

884
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Speaker 9: For example, when the Writtenhouse shooting happened, that Rittenhouse was

885
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 9: engaged in self defense. He didn't do anything wrong. And

886
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 9: I've heard stories there were New York Times reporters terrified

887
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Speaker 9: to even take that assignment because if they had to

888
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 9: report that fact, it could destroy their career in the

889
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Speaker 9: newsroom because people there were that unhinged. And then if

890
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 9: you repeat that over and over and over again, and

891
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 9: then if you're in a kind of lower IQ area

892
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,760
Speaker 9: like CNN, they're not quite firing on as many cylinders

893
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 9: as The New York Times. You just get these absolutely

894
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 9: embarrassing stories where they actually have to come out and

895
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 9: admit it because it all seems reasonable to them until

896
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 9: they get called out on X or on some other

897
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 9: public platform.

898
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lydia that was my.

899
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Speaker 4: Read on that instance, by the way, It was because

900
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Speaker 4: all the early reporting was that, you know, it was

901
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Speaker 4: a bombing outside attempted bombing outside of the mayor's mansion.

902
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Speaker 4: So I actually think Abby Philip just didn't know that

903
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Speaker 4: she was wrong.

904
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Speaker 14: Well, and Andrew, I just kind of want to go

905
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Speaker 14: back to something that Blake was saying about the sort

906
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Speaker 14: of selection bias, and I think when you think about historically,

907
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,959
Speaker 14: how we get these people in media kind of telling

908
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 14: us what the story is and breaking things down for us,

909
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 14: they're in. They go through the university system, which my

910
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 14: colleague Isabell Vincent here. The Post had a great story

911
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 14: yesterday just highlighting people who are literally children of IRCG

912
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Speaker 14: members are teaching in universities like University of Illinois and

913
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Speaker 14: Emery And so you think about you're going through this

914
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Speaker 14: university system where literal terrorists children are professors and teaching,

915
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Speaker 14: and then you go into this other ecosystem, typically in

916
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Speaker 14: a big city like New York or LA, where it's

917
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 14: quite liberal, and then all of your colleagues are also

918
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 14: thinking the same way as you. So it's just literally

919
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 14: from the time you leave your house, no matter who

920
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Speaker 14: you are, if you're going to an elite university, and

921
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 14: then continuing on to get a top job, especially in

922
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Speaker 14: media in a liberal place like New York or LA,

923
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Speaker 14: you're just not challenged with any of your viewpoints, you're

924
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 14: inculcated and something that's extremely left wing, and then that

925
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Speaker 14: just carries on with no one challenging those presuppositions.

926
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Speaker 4: I couldn't help but find this clip and you're sitting

927
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Speaker 4: right next to the person involved in this. This is

928
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Speaker 4: Lee McGowan, and this this clip is just it's a

929
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Speaker 4: it's a peach cut.

930
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Speaker 2: Twenty six.

931
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Speaker 8: Answer is to continue to let her on back has

932
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Speaker 8: blogged my answer.

933
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Speaker 2: Okay, so someone has to take them. No, it's not

934
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Speaker 2: a false.

935
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Speaker 15: They started.

936
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Speaker 2: Guys here, we are the bad guys here. That's a

937
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: that's a that's strong.

938
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Speaker 4: You can be against this uh war in the first place,

939
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 4: just to be clear, but that's quite a thing to

940
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Speaker 4: say from.

941
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Speaker 2: Me, who is that's the issue.

942
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 14: Is again totally valid to challenge what the strategy is

943
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 14: and ask questions. But we're seeing on the left it's

944
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 14: like people are rooting for us to fail. It's like

945
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 14: people want this to be a disaster. So Donald Trump

946
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 14: has egg on his face.

947
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 7: That's what it.

948
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Speaker 14: Feels like is going on. And I genuinely think, and

949
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Speaker 14: I know we're going to talk about Madonnie and his

950
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 14: way from a there seem to be people and obviously

951
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 14: the fact that there are protests and people honoring holding

952
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 14: services to honor the Ietola. There are clearly people here

953
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 14: who actually do think that Erica is the bad guy

954
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 14: in this war, and of course no universe could that

955
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 14: be possible. You're looking at a regime that murders people

956
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 14: for sport. They just today executed a young man who

957
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 14: walked the streets trying to protest back in January. They

958
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 14: hang gay people from cranes. They rape women as punishment.

959
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 14: They're the largest exporter of tari Like. Let's be very clear,

960
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 14: in no universe are we the bad They're the bad guys.

961
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 14: Through and through it again. You can debate the war,

962
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 14: but there's no way that you could characterize Iran as

963
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 14: anything less than the most evil regime on the face.

964
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Speaker 5: Of the earth.

965
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of this is

966
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 4: we've let a ton of people, millions of people in

967
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: our country that hate us, and it's the third worlding

968
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 4: of the United States, and we're living the consequences right now.

969
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 4: But probably nowhere, as I guess.

970
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: Poignant.

971
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 4: Can you feel that as New York City your home

972
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 4: where you live, and there's a bunch of reporting now

973
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 4: out from the New York Post of Rama Duwagi. I

974
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 4: think I got her name right finally. That is the

975
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 4: wife of Mayor Mam Donnie. And you could go up

976
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 4: and throw this image up and says in a series

977
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Speaker 4: of unearthed social media posts, Rama Duagi reportedly celebrated Palestinian

978
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Speaker 4: plane hijacker Leela Khalid Khalid h that.

979
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: Like, this is shocking stuff. Yeah, there you go. The

980
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: New York Post is reporting it. Uh, this is you know.

981
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 4: Anti Israel activists who called so she's associating with some

982
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: anti Israel activists who called Jews cockroaches, has multiple links

983
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 4: to Mam Donnie's family.

984
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: This is the you know.

985
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 4: It was interesting because we had Coach Tubberville on the

986
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 4: show and he said the enemy is inside the gates now,

987
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: and it became this huge back and forth with Chuck Schumer. Uh,

988
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 4: what is going on in New York City and how

989
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: bad really is this mayor's office?

990
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 14: Well, it's really concerning, and this is on the heels.

991
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 14: I mean, there's been a few pretty alarming headlines coming

992
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 14: out against about Rama. The most re one just in

993
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 14: the last twelve hours or so is that, of course,

994
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 14: she had liked all of these posts and reposted them

995
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 14: on Tumblr, which not a lot of people are on

996
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 14: Tumblr anymore, but one, for instance, says, American soldiers fighting

997
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 14: in imperialist wars are not brave, nor are they fighting

998
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 14: for anyone's freedom. They're mercilessly slaughtering third world civilians and

999
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 14: fighting to maintain American hegemony. That's just kind of a

1000
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 14: flavor of the things. And she's also used the N

1001
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 14: words a lot of funds and things out there. And

1002
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 14: it comes on the heels of another report that she

1003
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 14: was illustrating a children's book, or not a children's book, sorry,

1004
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 14: illustrating a book written by a woman who said things

1005
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 14: like jews or cockroaches, they're rabid demons, they're sons of Satan.

1006
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 14: So this is this is a ongoing issue, and we

1007
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 14: see obviously goes back to when she was a young

1008
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 14: woman in her teens, but it's continuing. This isn't like

1009
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 14: one little thing that she said ten years ago. This

1010
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 14: is a long seated issue that's extended for decades. And

1011
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 14: so of course she was lotted and celebrated when Mom

1012
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 14: Donnie was first elected. She had this fabulous photo shoot

1013
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 14: in New York magazine, and she was heralded as this

1014
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 14: artist and greasy mansion, and she was just so wonderful

1015
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 14: and it's interesting to see there hadn't been a lot

1016
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 14: of sort of oppo research or reporting on her specifically,

1017
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 14: But now that we're seeing all these things, I'm I'm

1018
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 14: waiting for New York Magazine and some of these other

1019
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 14: publications that just lionized and celebrated her to come out

1020
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 14: and say, oh, we apologize for featuring and lauding a

1021
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 14: woman who likes and reposts things that are extremely not

1022
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 14: even just offensive, but things that are advocating for terrorism.

1023
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to New York.

1024
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I feel like paying for her to

1025
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 14: be a greasy mansion.

1026
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1027
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 9: And I just want to flag, like when they say

1028
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 9: like liked posts, you know, liked this person who was

1029
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 9: in the PSLF, that they're basically the.

1030
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 7: Ones who pioneered aircraft hijack.

1031
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 9: Like A big reason I think al Qaeda might have

1032
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 9: thought let's hijack planes and fly them into buildings is

1033
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 9: because this Palestinian group kind of popularized aircraft hijackings as

1034
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 9: this dramatic political terrorist stunt. In the sixties and seventies,

1035
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Speaker 9: they were doing one every few weeks basically for a

1036
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Speaker 9: long time.

1037
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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, and then I would also know it too,

1038
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 14: so it's sort of been a one two three punch.

1039
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 14: There was also a story last week that came out

1040
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 14: that she had liked a bunch of pro terrorist pro

1041
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 14: Hamas posts in the wake of October seventh. Obviously a

1042
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 14: horrible day. And to have somebody again who Mamdannie cosplays

1043
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 14: is somebody who cares about everyone in the community. To

1044
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 14: have someone in gracing mansion who's celebrating the murder and

1045
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 14: the rape of Jews is just it's beyond And I

1046
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 14: would note you know you said New York has obviously

1047
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 14: changed a lot. In the wake of his election, everyone

1048
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 14: kept saying like, oh, how could a city that was,

1049
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 14: you know, sustained a terrorist attack just two decades earlier

1050
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 14: vote for this And it's interesting among the people who

1051
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 14: actually have lived here for more than five years, more

1052
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 14: than ten years, Mom, Donnie did not win. It was

1053
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 14: really new people who've been coming here who elected him.

1054
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 4: Are those newcomers from the US or are we talking

1055
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: immigrant ye?

1056
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 14: No, no, no, no, no, no, yeah no, people who have moved

1057
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 14: here from outside the US.

1058
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 4: We got to get a handle on our legal immigration system.

1059
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: It's a big theme on this show. Lydia moynihan, thank

1060
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 4: you so much. Great to have you your first time

1061
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Speaker 4: on the show. We'll have you on again soon, I'm.

1062
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Speaker 2: Sure, being well true such a pleasure.

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Speaker 14: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Honored to have our next guest, Alex Marlow, editor in

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Speaker 4: chief of Brightbart News as well as host of The

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Speaker 4: Alex Marlow Show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, my friends, good to see.

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Speaker 3: You, well, good see you Andrew. Thank you for having

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Speaker 3: me on the Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: Listen, man A, there's a lot of stuff we've been

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Speaker 4: going through story after story, but I want to I

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Speaker 4: want to zoom out on the state of the movement.

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Speaker 4: Right There was this poll yesterday that was circulating.

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Speaker 2: CNN had it up.

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Speaker 4: I believe they conducted the poll that set one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent of MAGA supports the president. I just don't believe

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Speaker 4: that that's statistically possible or true. I don't know where

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Speaker 4: they got that from or how they posed the question,

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Speaker 4: but there's no doubt that this Iranian conflict, war excursion,

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Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it is is you know,

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Speaker 4: it's a challenge to the movement. You see Megan Kelly

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Speaker 4: sounding off, you see Tucker Carlson, you have the Joe

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Speaker 4: Kent resignation. There is a lot of noise out there

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Speaker 4: right now. Alex, what how do you process this? How

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Speaker 4: are you thinking about it?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, It's it's a great question to ask, because this

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Speaker 16: is the question for the year, because we all want

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Speaker 16: Maggot to endure. We all want to make sure that

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Speaker 16: Americans are safe and prosperos and thriving.

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Speaker 3: And then the question.

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Speaker 16: Is, is this war that's going on right now is

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Speaker 16: getting us closer to that? And I think there's going

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Speaker 16: to be a lot of people who think that the

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Speaker 16: president has earned a lot of credibility, And I'm in

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Speaker 16: that group where he gets a little leeway here. If

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Speaker 16: he feels like he had the imperative and the intelligence

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Speaker 16: to weigh just successful war, that he should have a

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Speaker 16: little time to do it. If he's doing his strategic bombings,

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Speaker 16: he's trying to take out high profile targets. And if

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Speaker 16: you look at sort of a reasonable standard, is are

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Speaker 16: we devastating Iron's ballistic missile capabilities? Are we developing are

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Speaker 16: we devastating their ability to create nuclear weaponry? Are are

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Speaker 16: we perhaps making so that it's less likely they support

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Speaker 16: tear proxies that kill ourselves and our allies in the region.

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Speaker 3: Then it's been pretty successful so far.

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Speaker 16: But if you look at it the way Joe can't

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Speaker 16: frame it up on Tucker's show yesterday, which is that

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Speaker 16: Iran was never really going to develop a nuclear weapon

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Speaker 16: and that they were only enriching as a bargaining tactic,

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Speaker 16: and we should have stuck around longer to bargain with Iran.

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Speaker 16: And you take that side, then obviously you're going to

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Speaker 16: be very discouraged about what's happening right now. And you

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Speaker 16: see one hundred nineteen dollars barrels of oil and no

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Speaker 16: real incentive for Iran to open up the straight of

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Speaker 16: war moves, and you could see this thing spiraling really quick.

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Speaker 16: So I feel like, whichever side you're on right now,

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Speaker 16: I do recommend operating with a cautious lens, because if

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Speaker 16: you're someone who's already thrown President Trump under the bus,

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Speaker 16: then it's probably because you are You're taking cues from

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Speaker 16: a really extreme but often credible and very persuasive faction

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Speaker 16: of the online right. And if you are think that

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Speaker 16: Trump is in fact here, then unfortunately, Middle East wars

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Speaker 16: are a place where a lot of presidents falter. So

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Speaker 16: I see a lot of wisdom on both sides, and

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Speaker 16: that makes it a very tough one because it's very

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Speaker 16: hard to come in Andrew and declaratively say this is

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Speaker 16: going one way or the other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And so there's two you know, I watched clips.

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Speaker 4: I did not watch the whole thing, but there's two

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Speaker 4: clips floating around from Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: one is basically kind of outlining the divergence. Let's say that,

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Speaker 4: and Pete Hegseath alluded to this that Israel and the

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Speaker 4: United States have oftentimes overlapping ambitions with the Iranian strikes,

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Speaker 4: sometimes their objectives diverge.

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Speaker 2: So let's start there.

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Speaker 4: What do we make of this divergence? I, personally, you know,

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Speaker 4: understand that Israel has its own objectives. Sure, that does

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Speaker 4: not surprise me. However, to suggest that President Trump is

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Speaker 4: lacking any agency to make his own decisions, especially on

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Speaker 4: something where he's been so consistent when it comes to

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Speaker 4: Iran for at least a decade about nuclear capabilities, I

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Speaker 4: find it is a bridge that's a little far from me.

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Speaker 3: To wrap around totally with you on this.

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Speaker 16: So this is there's a couple of things that kent

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Speaker 16: throughout there that I think are very serious, and I

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Speaker 16: think it'd be wise for the White House to address

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Speaker 16: them over time. The first one is a suggestion that

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Speaker 16: Trump has sort of moved the goalpost and Iran is

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Speaker 16: not on the brink of getting a nuclear weapon, and

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Speaker 16: that their enrichment was only designed as a negotiating tactic,

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Speaker 16: it was not designed to get nukes. This is something

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Speaker 16: I have heard, but is directly contradicted by the administration's

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Speaker 16: line by a CIA director John Ratliff, who said flat

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Speaker 16: out that Iran was enriching to create a new to

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Speaker 16: destroy America in our allies.

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Speaker 3: And of course I'm.

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Speaker 16: Lightly inclined to side with the administration because they've built

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Speaker 16: up a lot of credibility with me. But Kent's not

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Speaker 16: a joker, So that's worth taking seriously. It's worth taking

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Speaker 16: that on on a serious level. I think that's real

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Speaker 16: to understand that that is a I think that's a

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Speaker 16: legitimate concern people have. Got I start losing him is

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Speaker 16: the suggestion that Trump is only doing the bidding of Israel.

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Speaker 16: Because throughout the course of the two hours and I

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Speaker 16: watched the whole thing, both men really praise President Trump

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Speaker 16: a lot. But the whole implication of the whole text

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Speaker 16: here is that Trump is also getting played and rolled

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Speaker 16: by Israel and doing Israel's bidding, whether or not because

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Speaker 16: he feels like he's under threat, whether or not he's

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Speaker 16: doing this because he's easily manipulated.

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Speaker 3: That's sort of incoherent to me.

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Speaker 16: That Trump is the greatest leader, imaginable and the perfect

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Speaker 16: guy for the moment, but also is getting suckered by Israel,

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Speaker 16: a country of nine million people. That strikes me as

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Speaker 16: a little incongruous, and I think that's one that does

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Speaker 16: make me question some of what's going on and make

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Speaker 16: me feel like there's more than meets the eye to

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Speaker 16: some of this conversation. But I's clear that Israel definitely

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Speaker 16: once regime change. I think that some of our allies

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Speaker 16: in the region, Saudi Arabia and Guitar, who are sort

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Speaker 16: of newer to the America First Tent, largely since the

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Speaker 16: Abraham Accords, which have largely been a I think they

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Speaker 16: would like to see more widespread devastation to Iran than

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Speaker 16: perhaps is in our immediate interest in America. So I

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Speaker 16: don't think it's just Israel in the region, but I

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Speaker 16: think it would be nice to get something clarity on

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Speaker 16: some of those legitimate issues Kent and Tucker rays in

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Speaker 16: the conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so then it goes into obviously this point that

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Speaker 4: and I played this in our one. I think it's

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Speaker 4: worth playing again because you know, Joe Kent is now officially,

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Speaker 4: we're told, under investigation by the FBI for leaking classified documents.

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Speaker 4: And I want to be very clear, Joe Kent deployed

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Speaker 4: eleven times for the US military.

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Speaker 2: He's that's unassailable, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, gold star husband.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, gold star husband lost his wife, you know, absolutely

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Speaker 4: unassailable And a lot of my friends really loved Joe

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Speaker 4: Kent a lot.

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Speaker 2: I don't know him that well personally.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this was an interesting moment when Tulca Gabbard was

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Speaker 4: asked about it, and I want to get your take

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Speaker 4: on it, SOT twenty seven.

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Speaker 12: Do you agree or disagree with what this letter was

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Speaker 12: put out by former Director Kent?

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Speaker 13: He said a lot of things in that letter. Ultimately,

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Speaker 13: we have provided the president with the intelligence assessments, and

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Speaker 13: the president is elected by the American people and makes

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Speaker 13: his own decisions based on the information that's available to him.

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Speaker 12: But do you agree with Does that statement he made

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Speaker 12: blaming Israel concern you?

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Speaker 2: Yes, that was a moment right there.

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Speaker 4: Having she said yes, it was a little ambiguous of

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Speaker 4: what she was actually saying. She was troubled by what

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Speaker 4: did you think was communicated in that moment?

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Speaker 16: Alex Yeah, I think that's really I think he goes

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Speaker 16: way too far in this regard, especially noting that there

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Speaker 16: are other allies we have in the region who would

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Speaker 16: like to see the regime change in Iran as well,

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Speaker 16: and just the thought that Trump is just some sort

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Speaker 16: of a patsy for Israel. It just doesn't make sense

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Speaker 16: for anything else in Trump's character. And they cite one

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Speaker 16: piece of evidence, which is the clip from Marco Rubio

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Speaker 16: saying they got in tell that Israel is going to

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Speaker 16: go in, and it was sort of a do or

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Speaker 16: die moment.

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Speaker 3: I guess for us to go in or not.

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Speaker 16: I had a feeling that's just one day to point

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Speaker 16: out of millions that were probably part of the president's calculation.

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Speaker 16: The president loves being a peacetime president. He loves starting

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Speaker 16: no new wars, so you know he's only doing this

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01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 16: he knows a lot of his base is not going

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Speaker 16: to support it. He's not a dumb person. He's a

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Speaker 16: very bright person who is very conscientious of his own people,

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Speaker 16: his own supporters, and they knew not all of them

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Speaker 16: were going to get on board. And that's why some

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Speaker 16: of this stuff just goes way too far with the

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Speaker 16: just blanket this is Israel's fault and Trump is a

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Speaker 16: sucker for Israel. That does not compute to me. And

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Speaker 16: I did find I gotta say this. We're on the

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Speaker 16: Charlie Kirk Show. I thought him speaking for Charlie was

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Speaker 16: very crass to me. And it's the where all those

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Speaker 16: of us who knew Charlie well, Andrew, you knew him

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Speaker 16: the best of all of us.

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Speaker 3: I knew Charlie very well. That's a really delicate thing.

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Speaker 16: And he was out there the biggest podcast in the world,

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Speaker 16: speaking in behalf of Charlie and speaking on behalf of

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Speaker 16: even the context of implying perhaps Israel murdered Charlie and

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Speaker 16: then using that in the exact contest to suggest that

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Speaker 16: Israel is compelling America to bomb girls schools on a

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Speaker 16: rany and base. I mean, it's starting to get a

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Speaker 16: little bit I'm seeing the orange yarn so I always

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Speaker 16: saw you in Philadelphia. Meme starts popping into my head here.

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Speaker 16: Now we're just connecting all sorts of different dots without

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Speaker 16: the heart evidence.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I want to get into that a little

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Speaker 4: bit more in the next segment, Alex, because you know,

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Speaker 4: obviously I logged that I clocked that, Blake clocked it.

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Speaker 4: We instantly shared that clip and discussed it, and I

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Speaker 4: think it deserves a whole segment. Let's just wrap this

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Speaker 4: segment up really quickly with you know, Megan Kelly tweeted

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Speaker 4: out something like, if you really want to destroy MAGA.

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Speaker 4: You know, have the CIA Surveill Tucker and the FBI

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Speaker 4: in dict or the DJ in dyt Joe Kent, Do

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Speaker 4: you read it that way or do you think we're

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Speaker 4: more stable than that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: I think we were more stable than that, But I

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Speaker 16: do I take that into deep consideration. I'm a person

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Speaker 16: who's a very online conservative person. I'm aware of where

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Speaker 16: the pulse of a lot of the highest energy people

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Speaker 16: online are, and they really like Joe Kant, and they're

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Speaker 16: very skeptical of us doing Israel's bidding at all. And

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Speaker 16: that's a real factor here. But the FBI investigation started earlier,

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Speaker 16: and we know they are these strange leaks that are

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Speaker 16: America and Israel. And some people in this audience probably

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Speaker 16: think that's deserved. But it's certainly a thing that's happening,

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Speaker 2: Let's just hear this clip.

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Speaker 4: This was obviously with Tucker Carlson, Joe Kent TOT thirty one.

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Speaker 17: And then you know, Charlie Kirk is killed publicly in

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Speaker 17: a very horrific way, and we're not really even allowed

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Speaker 17: to look into that at all. And Charlie Kirk was

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Speaker 17: one of President Trump's closest advisors, and he also advocated

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Speaker 17: heavily against.

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Speaker 3: A war with Iran.

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Speaker 17: He was in the Oval Office in the leader to

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Speaker 17: the Twelve Day War. I wasn't particularly close with Charlie.

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Speaker 17: He was very gracious to me when I was running

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Speaker 17: for Congress, very very supportive. So we knew each other.

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Speaker 17: And the last time I saw Charlie Kirk on this

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Speaker 17: earth was in June in the in the West Wing,

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Speaker 17: and he said, Joe, stop us from getting into a

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Speaker 17: war with Iran. So when one of President Trump's closest advisors,

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Speaker 17: who is vocally advocating for us to not go to

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Speaker 17: war with Iran and for us to rethink at least

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Speaker 17: our relationship with the Israelis, and then he suddenly publicly

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Speaker 17: assassinated and we're not allowed to ask any questions about that.

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Speaker 4: So he says we're not allowed to ask any questions

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Speaker 4: about that. I can personally attest that I don't believe

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Speaker 4: that that is the truth. I believe there's been a

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Speaker 4: billion questions asked both you know, publicly and privately, behind

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Speaker 4: the scenes, so many leads have been pursued, Alex, what

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Speaker 4: get your reaction and then I'm gonna throw to Blake.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: I first of all, I think that Charlie did not

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Speaker 16: want regime change war in Iran, but he did support

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Speaker 16: the president. I think he would have given the president

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Speaker 16: a wide berth and a certain level of trust. I

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Speaker 16: don't think it would have gone on indefinitely, but I

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Speaker 16: think that, you know, two and a half weeks in

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Speaker 16: that Joe Kenn speaking on behalf of Charlie.

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Speaker 3: I find that to be grotesque.

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Speaker 10: I just do.

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Speaker 16: And I'm a Joe Kent fan, So this is disappointing

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Speaker 16: to me that he's going out there at this level

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Speaker 16: because I think I respect so much of what he's

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Speaker 16: done both in political life, and of course his surface

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Speaker 16: is just just fantastic. And the fact that he's speculating

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Speaker 16: at this level, I think that is connecting Charlie, who

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Speaker 16: appears to have been murdered by a transferry freak, to

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Speaker 16: what's going on in term of Trump's Iran policy right now.

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Speaker 16: It doesn't add up to me, and the thought that

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Speaker 16: Joe is saying this right after he left the government.

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Speaker 16: We know while he's under investigation by the FBI. The

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Speaker 16: timing of it, so he leaves the government, and because

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Speaker 16: he couldn't ask questions when he was in a position

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Speaker 16: of immense power, now he's going in the private sector

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Speaker 16: and getting a lot of it. It just reeks to

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Speaker 16: me that there's something off. There's a variable we're not

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Speaker 16: seeing here. But it doesn't make any sense that I

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Speaker 16: couldn't ask questions. So now I'm quitting. That doesn't add

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Speaker 16: up as well. So there's something way off about this.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'll be honest, I'm I'm quite angry about

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Speaker 9: what he did. I think his agenda was very clear.

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Speaker 9: He's saying, oh, we're not allowed to ask questions.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 9: I believe we were allowed to ask questions. That's why

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Speaker 9: the FBI investigated the crime. That's why they collaborated with

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Speaker 9: Utah authorities to find and charge the suspect, which they did,

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Speaker 9: and we have ample evidence that there is a ton

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Speaker 9: of evidence in this case. Maybe the reason he wasn't

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Speaker 9: involved is it's actually not his department's job to investigate

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Speaker 9: crimes once they're committed. Maybe the reason he wasn't looped

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Speaker 9: in as much is because they already suspected him of leaking,

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Speaker 9: and he appears to have continued to be leaking things.

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Speaker 9: And I'm just I'm so angry about Charlie, a person

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Speaker 9: we care about, being used in just as a political football,

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Speaker 9: in this blatant way where he's using bits of like conversation,

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Speaker 9: since he supposedly had bits of evidence to really paints

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Speaker 9: a picture that he can't actually demonstrate evidence for it.

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Speaker 9: Just it made me very upset, and it demonstrated, frankly,

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Speaker 9: why I suspect it's a good reason he's not.

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Speaker 7: In government anymore.

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Speaker 9: I know a lot of people have fondness for him,

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Speaker 9: but I think I think this was incredibly I think

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Speaker 9: this was odious behavior by him.

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Speaker 16: And you know, he dismisses some clear evidence on Trump's behalf.

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Speaker 16: It doesn't come up in the conversation at all. I

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Speaker 16: mentioned those other allies that were definitely would like is

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Speaker 16: even more done to Iran. But also think about how

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Speaker 16: Trump basically laid out a red line a year ago

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Speaker 16: in a letter saying no more ballistic missile development, no

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Speaker 16: more nuclear development to the point of beyond civilian means,

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Speaker 16: and no more funding tear proxies Iran literally did all

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Speaker 16: three of those things. Joe Ken's aware of this, He's

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Speaker 16: spoken about it, he's tweeted about it. He's even gone

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Speaker 16: pretty far to say that he's called on Trump to

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Speaker 16: basically knock out Iron's ballistic missile capabilities, which is.

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Speaker 3: Pretty far out there.

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Speaker 16: And then now he's here and he just got there,

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Speaker 16: see like within a matter of two weeks.

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Speaker 3: It just is inconguist to me.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, I want to fixate on that because

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Speaker 9: we know there are people who will say things publicly

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01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 9: because they're on side or they're part of the movement.

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Speaker 9: They might have private misgivings, but it's it's just it's

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01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 9: incredibly aggravating what he's done where he himself, he has

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Speaker 9: no evidence of the thing he's implying. All he can

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Speaker 9: say is I was cut out of the investigation when it.

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Speaker 7: Seems there's ample reason to cut him out of the.

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Speaker 9: Investigation because he's a guy who runs off and does

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Speaker 9: stuff like this, and I like will be that. We've

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Speaker 9: been the first to say Charlie didn't want war with Iran.

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Speaker 9: He argued against it. He argued against it to the president.

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Speaker 9: We've tried very carefully to present what we knew Charlie

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Speaker 9: believed how we think he might react to this, while

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Speaker 9: acknowledging we aren't sure because he's no longer with us,

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Speaker 9: We're not We're trying to not use him as this

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Speaker 9: blatant you know, veto.

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Speaker 7: Power over everything.

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Speaker 9: And I'm just so upset that Joe runs off and

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Speaker 9: this is like the first thing he does because he

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Speaker 9: knows it'll go viral, he knows it'll get a ton

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Speaker 9: of attention, when as he emits, he actually doesn't have anything,

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Speaker 9: he has no evidence. He just does that classic we're

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Speaker 9: not allowed to ask questions. A ton of people have

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Speaker 9: asked questions they've never if they're given answers, they don't

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Speaker 9: like the answers, and they pretend they were never given them.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, the lack of hard evidence definitely strikes me. It's

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Speaker 16: so speculative, the argument that's being advanced, and just to repeat,

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Speaker 16: just the invoking Charlie is just when he admits multiple

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Speaker 16: times he didn't know him very well, just really off

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Speaker 16: putting to me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just want to underscore a fact here

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Speaker 4: because I'm privy to certain details that I'm not allowed

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Speaker 4: to speak.

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Speaker 2: About publicly, and i want the audience to know.

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Speaker 4: Every single question that has been floated in any way,

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Speaker 4: shape or form, we have chased down and we have

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Speaker 4: done our best to So my point is he's saying

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Speaker 4: we're not allowed to ask questions. Well, just because you're

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01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 4: not presented with the evidence doesn't mean or given access

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Speaker 4: to that part of the investigation. Doesn't mean that the

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01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 4: questions haven't been asked and that the lines of inquiry.

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Speaker 2: Haven't been followed.

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01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 4: You know, that does not mean things have not been investigated,

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01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 4: because I know a tremendous amount of things have been

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Speaker 4: investigated and by people that love Charlie, people that cared

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Speaker 4: about Charlie.

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Speaker 2: Charlie.

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Speaker 4: So so I and here's the last thing, you know,

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Speaker 4: And I constantly go back to this Turly quote in

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Speaker 4: my head where he says, if ninety percent of the

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Speaker 4: evidence against Tyler Robinson was thrown out, this guy would

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Speaker 4: still get the death penalty. If the defense somehow succeeded

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 4: in throwing ninety percent of this evidence out, he'd still

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01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,839
Speaker 4: be found guilty in a court of law. The mountain

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 4: of evidence that has accumulated against this guy is incredible,

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01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 4: and like, just believe me on that they have this

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01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 4: guy completely. Did people seem to know about it beforehand. Yes,

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01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 4: was he radicalized by other people? Yes, I am desperate

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01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 4: to get to the bottom of those questions. I'm even

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Speaker 4: I'm open to all kinds of different things. But to

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Speaker 4: suggest that somehow Tyler Robinson was not the guy that

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Speaker 4: pulled the trigger, I think is uh?

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Speaker 5: Is uh?

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Speaker 4: Is a line where I just have to put my

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Speaker 4: foot down and say, no, this guy did. This guy

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Speaker 4: did the deed, and he deserves to be punished by

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Speaker 4: the court of law. Final final thoughts to you, Alex.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it's a it's a great it's a great summary.

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Speaker 16: And all this is designed timed to do maximum damage

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Speaker 16: to Trump at his war effort, which like or not,

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Speaker 16: we're in it for at least a little bit longer,

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Speaker 16: and divide the MAGA movement. And that's very sad to

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Speaker 16: me as a OG member the MAGA movement.

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Speaker 2: Alex Marlow, thank you so much.

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Speaker 12: For more on many of these stories and news you

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