1 00:00:08,257 --> 00:00:14,177 Speaker 1: Life audio. This episode mentioned suicide and may be triggering 2 00:00:14,257 --> 00:00:15,177 Speaker 1: for some listeners. 3 00:00:17,497 --> 00:00:19,817 Speaker 2: Walk through the season of Lent with an intentional focus 4 00:00:19,857 --> 00:00:22,617 Speaker 2: on your Savior and prepare for the joy and victory 5 00:00:22,657 --> 00:00:25,896 Speaker 2: of his resurrection. With Jesus Listens for Lent and Easter. 6 00:00:26,616 --> 00:00:30,577 Speaker 2: This book offers seasonally themed devotions from Sarah Young's New 7 00:00:30,617 --> 00:00:35,377 Speaker 2: York Times bestseller Jesus Listens. Inside you'll find prayers, reflections, 8 00:00:35,377 --> 00:00:39,297 Speaker 2: and Bible verses based on Jesus life and sacrifice, plus 9 00:00:39,577 --> 00:00:43,217 Speaker 2: stunning Spring and Easter illustrations, making this a holiday treasure 10 00:00:43,217 --> 00:00:46,257 Speaker 2: to cherish for years to come. 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This week we speak 17 00:01:07,897 --> 00:01:11,977 Speaker 2: with Nathan Davis Junior, an actor, singer and songwriter whose 18 00:01:12,017 --> 00:01:15,417 Speaker 2: career has taken him from church choirs to television screens 19 00:01:15,457 --> 00:01:16,977 Speaker 2: and viral music platforms. 20 00:01:17,257 --> 00:01:17,937 Speaker 3: But behind the. 21 00:01:17,897 --> 00:01:21,017 Speaker 2: Success is a deeply personal story of loss and faith. 22 00:01:21,377 --> 00:01:24,017 Speaker 2: After losing his little brother to suicide and enduring a 23 00:01:24,017 --> 00:01:27,097 Speaker 2: season of overwhelming grief, Nathan found himself at a breaking 24 00:01:27,137 --> 00:01:30,697 Speaker 2: point until a quiet, honest cry to God changed everything. 25 00:01:31,217 --> 00:01:33,937 Speaker 2: After we hear from Nathan, we talk with Tim Timmins, 26 00:01:34,097 --> 00:01:37,657 Speaker 2: a songwriter and founder of the nonprofit ten Thousand Minutes 27 00:01:38,017 --> 00:01:41,577 Speaker 2: based in Nashville. His insightful music and ministry were profoundly 28 00:01:41,617 --> 00:01:45,817 Speaker 2: shaped by an unexpected diagnosis of incurable cancer twenty five 29 00:01:45,897 --> 00:01:49,057 Speaker 2: years ago. Tim shares his journey of wrestling with faith's 30 00:01:49,057 --> 00:01:52,377 Speaker 2: biggest questions, the power of praying his songs, and how 31 00:01:52,417 --> 00:01:55,177 Speaker 2: he's learned to hold the tension between deep sorrow and 32 00:01:55,257 --> 00:01:58,697 Speaker 2: profound gratitude. Let's begin with Nathan's story. 33 00:02:06,097 --> 00:02:06,257 Speaker 1: Hi. 34 00:02:06,337 --> 00:02:11,816 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Davis Junior. I'm a singer, songwriter, actor, social 35 00:02:11,897 --> 00:02:17,377 Speaker 3: media influencer, follower of Christ, and I'm just happy to 36 00:02:17,417 --> 00:02:25,776 Speaker 3: be here and to be a disciple. I was born 37 00:02:25,857 --> 00:02:29,417 Speaker 3: in Long Beach, California, but I was raised in Memphis, Tennessee. 38 00:02:29,937 --> 00:02:34,417 Speaker 3: As a kid, I was super, super interested in music, 39 00:02:34,737 --> 00:02:38,217 Speaker 3: and I grew up watching my mom at church. She 40 00:02:38,377 --> 00:02:40,937 Speaker 3: was a choir director and it just inspired me because 41 00:02:40,977 --> 00:02:42,817 Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, I want to sing, I want 42 00:02:42,817 --> 00:02:45,217 Speaker 3: to do that too, but I just felt this in 43 00:02:45,257 --> 00:02:47,897 Speaker 3: my sphere that I'm supposed to be doing this, and 44 00:02:47,937 --> 00:02:51,217 Speaker 3: it just felt so natural and just peaceful. I've always 45 00:02:51,257 --> 00:02:53,897 Speaker 3: wanted to be the light in the industry. Go through 46 00:02:53,937 --> 00:02:56,577 Speaker 3: your Jonah phases where you're running away from your purpose 47 00:02:57,177 --> 00:03:00,177 Speaker 3: because you're afraid, and you know, you get distracted, and 48 00:03:01,017 --> 00:03:04,217 Speaker 3: God has an interesting way of bringing you back around. 49 00:03:05,057 --> 00:03:07,617 Speaker 3: I feel like my older self was able to hug 50 00:03:07,697 --> 00:03:15,657 Speaker 3: my younger self. I always admired my little bro because 51 00:03:15,857 --> 00:03:18,337 Speaker 3: he never really asked me for anything. You know, you 52 00:03:18,377 --> 00:03:20,297 Speaker 3: have a little sibling. They're like, can you give me money? 53 00:03:20,377 --> 00:03:21,017 Speaker 3: Can you do this? Da? 54 00:03:21,097 --> 00:03:21,577 Speaker 1: Da da? 55 00:03:21,617 --> 00:03:23,737 Speaker 3: He never really asked me for anything. He always wanted 56 00:03:23,737 --> 00:03:27,217 Speaker 3: to help out, always, like whether it was filming my 57 00:03:27,297 --> 00:03:30,337 Speaker 3: social media videos, being in my videos. He will even 58 00:03:30,377 --> 00:03:32,377 Speaker 3: give me some advice, which I was like, man, you 59 00:03:32,497 --> 00:03:34,097 Speaker 3: a kid. You don't know what he's talking about. But 60 00:03:34,177 --> 00:03:37,537 Speaker 3: he was very mature for his age, and I know 61 00:03:37,657 --> 00:03:40,377 Speaker 3: that he was dealing with some things. And my goal 62 00:03:40,537 --> 00:03:42,417 Speaker 3: was to fly him to Los Angeles because I know 63 00:03:42,457 --> 00:03:43,937 Speaker 3: he wanted to go to the Air Force because he 64 00:03:43,977 --> 00:03:46,057 Speaker 3: was trying to figure himself out. And I said, hey, 65 00:03:46,217 --> 00:03:48,217 Speaker 3: if I fly you to Los Angeles and I teach 66 00:03:48,257 --> 00:03:50,537 Speaker 3: you how to film and do these things? Would you 67 00:03:50,617 --> 00:03:52,057 Speaker 3: not go to the Air Force? And he was like, yeah, 68 00:03:52,137 --> 00:03:54,657 Speaker 3: I'll come out there with my big bro. So my 69 00:03:54,737 --> 00:03:56,697 Speaker 3: plan was to fly him to Cali and to just 70 00:03:57,137 --> 00:03:59,017 Speaker 3: really teach him the things that I know and to 71 00:03:59,097 --> 00:04:01,817 Speaker 3: try to put them in a different environment where he 72 00:04:02,137 --> 00:04:06,137 Speaker 3: can see, Okay, it's not that bad. There's more to 73 00:04:06,257 --> 00:04:09,577 Speaker 3: the world. There's more out there to choose from. So 74 00:04:10,737 --> 00:04:15,337 Speaker 3: unfortunately on the live of themself. And it really hurt 75 00:04:15,377 --> 00:04:18,976 Speaker 3: me because as the big bro, your younger sibling is 76 00:04:19,017 --> 00:04:22,696 Speaker 3: your first child. You're supposed to protect your little sibling 77 00:04:22,856 --> 00:04:25,057 Speaker 3: and just guide them and lead them the best way 78 00:04:25,097 --> 00:04:28,056 Speaker 3: you can. So it really hurt me because all I 79 00:04:28,056 --> 00:04:30,616 Speaker 3: can think about was the moment of him being in 80 00:04:30,657 --> 00:04:34,296 Speaker 3: that position to choose that. I felt like, dang, Like, 81 00:04:34,777 --> 00:04:37,777 Speaker 3: did he feel like not safe? Did he feel alone? 82 00:04:37,816 --> 00:04:40,576 Speaker 3: It was just really bothering me. So I dealt with 83 00:04:40,616 --> 00:04:44,497 Speaker 3: that for a while. And another thing I was dealing 84 00:04:44,496 --> 00:04:47,377 Speaker 3: with was, you know, being in this industry, we're taught 85 00:04:47,496 --> 00:04:51,416 Speaker 3: to kind of hide our emotions and to put things 86 00:04:51,416 --> 00:04:53,817 Speaker 3: that were going through to the side because we're supposed 87 00:04:53,816 --> 00:04:57,217 Speaker 3: to show up and you know, turn on the HI, 88 00:04:57,257 --> 00:04:59,256 Speaker 3: how are you doing? I'm Nathandavis Junior, And I'm here. 89 00:04:59,337 --> 00:05:01,777 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? They entertaining, And I just 90 00:05:01,856 --> 00:05:03,936 Speaker 3: really wish I could have had more moments where I 91 00:05:03,936 --> 00:05:05,856 Speaker 3: sat him down and said, you know what, I deal 92 00:05:05,856 --> 00:05:09,176 Speaker 3: with depression, I deal with suicide, I deal with insecurities. 93 00:05:09,217 --> 00:05:11,176 Speaker 3: I don't think that I'm worthy of, Like I wish 94 00:05:11,217 --> 00:05:14,856 Speaker 3: I would have had that deeper moment with him that 95 00:05:15,056 --> 00:05:19,577 Speaker 3: was just never taught that that was okay for me. Now, 96 00:05:19,577 --> 00:05:22,217 Speaker 3: it's like the best way to honor him is to 97 00:05:22,416 --> 00:05:25,936 Speaker 3: just be a better version of myself, to keep his 98 00:05:26,017 --> 00:05:29,696 Speaker 3: name alive by speaking of kids and speaking to people 99 00:05:29,777 --> 00:05:33,337 Speaker 3: that deal with depression and mental health situations, and just 100 00:05:33,657 --> 00:05:36,176 Speaker 3: continuing to help and to give back and to just 101 00:05:36,296 --> 00:05:39,697 Speaker 3: love and just show as much love as I can. 102 00:05:39,856 --> 00:05:41,937 Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, every time I'm singing 103 00:05:41,976 --> 00:05:44,217 Speaker 3: on stage or talking to somebody, I just see his 104 00:05:44,257 --> 00:05:48,337 Speaker 3: face on everybody. I'm speaking to, every little kid, every adult, anybody. 105 00:05:48,376 --> 00:05:50,777 Speaker 3: I just see his face and it's like I'm just 106 00:05:50,816 --> 00:05:53,616 Speaker 3: having that conversation with people. But it's like I'm having 107 00:05:53,657 --> 00:05:55,537 Speaker 3: to it with him over and over and over and again, 108 00:05:55,616 --> 00:05:58,257 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna keep spreading his name. I'm gonna keep 109 00:05:58,337 --> 00:06:01,936 Speaker 3: under him, and he's one of the reasons why this 110 00:06:02,056 --> 00:06:05,816 Speaker 3: change has happened in my life. And I'm just bless 111 00:06:05,856 --> 00:06:08,376 Speaker 3: that guy gave me another chance and that he's forgiven 112 00:06:08,457 --> 00:06:10,416 Speaker 3: me and showed me a lot of mercy and grace, 113 00:06:10,936 --> 00:06:14,817 Speaker 3: and that he's utilizing me. And you know, it's a 114 00:06:14,856 --> 00:06:16,657 Speaker 3: lot of people that's not here, you know. So I'm 115 00:06:16,697 --> 00:06:19,897 Speaker 3: just blessed to be used and to be a disciple 116 00:06:19,976 --> 00:06:30,616 Speaker 3: for Christ. Not only did I lose my little bro, 117 00:06:31,056 --> 00:06:36,577 Speaker 3: I lost to total fourteen family members between twenty twenty 118 00:06:36,697 --> 00:06:43,016 Speaker 3: one twenty twenty for and before then, I blew up 119 00:06:43,056 --> 00:06:45,736 Speaker 3: on TikTok. I did all these movies, all these TV shows. 120 00:06:45,777 --> 00:06:47,816 Speaker 3: I made so much money about this house for my 121 00:06:47,897 --> 00:06:51,897 Speaker 3: mom and me. I pretty much was living a great life, 122 00:06:52,017 --> 00:06:57,376 Speaker 3: you know. And when I lost my family members, I 123 00:06:57,416 --> 00:06:59,856 Speaker 3: got into a deep depression because I always felt like, 124 00:07:00,777 --> 00:07:03,257 Speaker 3: Number One, if I get all this money, if I 125 00:07:03,296 --> 00:07:06,017 Speaker 3: get all this success, my family is going to be invincible. 126 00:07:06,137 --> 00:07:09,136 Speaker 3: This is gonna save them, This is gonna just keep 127 00:07:09,176 --> 00:07:13,097 Speaker 3: everybody alive. And when I went through that, I just 128 00:07:13,217 --> 00:07:15,256 Speaker 3: was like, dude, what's the point of even working what's 129 00:07:15,297 --> 00:07:18,057 Speaker 3: the point of idiotis Like, the people that I wanted 130 00:07:18,097 --> 00:07:20,497 Speaker 3: to share this with, they're all leaving me. And I 131 00:07:20,537 --> 00:07:23,977 Speaker 3: just felt abandoned. I felt just rejected. I just felt 132 00:07:23,977 --> 00:07:27,537 Speaker 3: like I just didn't have a purpose anymore. And I 133 00:07:27,657 --> 00:07:30,657 Speaker 3: just let it all go. I just stopped posting on 134 00:07:30,777 --> 00:07:35,177 Speaker 3: social media. I was really not trying to do auditions. 135 00:07:35,377 --> 00:07:38,256 Speaker 3: I was stressed, eating, was just gaining all the way, 136 00:07:38,417 --> 00:07:41,497 Speaker 3: very stressed out, and I just didn't care. I didn't 137 00:07:41,537 --> 00:07:45,217 Speaker 3: care about anything. I was outside at the club, I 138 00:07:45,257 --> 00:07:47,977 Speaker 3: just didn't care. Like I really was like, you know what, 139 00:07:47,977 --> 00:07:51,537 Speaker 3: whatever happens to me, happens to me. And I just 140 00:07:51,577 --> 00:07:54,337 Speaker 3: remember having one moment in my room. I was like, 141 00:07:54,377 --> 00:07:57,576 Speaker 3: all right, God, I wasn't really taught about having a relationship, 142 00:07:57,737 --> 00:07:59,297 Speaker 3: but I'm gonna try this out. I've never heard his 143 00:07:59,377 --> 00:08:00,977 Speaker 3: voice before, but I'm gonna try it. And I just 144 00:08:01,057 --> 00:08:02,897 Speaker 3: was in my room and I was like, Lord, I 145 00:08:02,977 --> 00:08:05,177 Speaker 3: need you. All I can say was God, I need you. 146 00:08:05,537 --> 00:08:08,777 Speaker 3: Don't know what I'm doing. This pain is terrible. 147 00:08:09,297 --> 00:08:09,937 Speaker 1: I just need you. 148 00:08:10,177 --> 00:08:12,937 Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing. And for the first time, 149 00:08:12,977 --> 00:08:15,217 Speaker 3: I felt a spiritual encounter with God, and he came 150 00:08:15,257 --> 00:08:16,657 Speaker 3: in my room and he hugged me and he said 151 00:08:16,657 --> 00:08:20,177 Speaker 3: he loved me. And when I tell you, I've never 152 00:08:20,217 --> 00:08:22,857 Speaker 3: heard God's voice before. And when I heard that, I 153 00:08:22,937 --> 00:08:26,417 Speaker 3: was like, Yo, this is different. I've never experienced this. 154 00:08:26,417 --> 00:08:28,577 Speaker 3: This wasn't something taught to me. This was an experience 155 00:08:28,617 --> 00:08:32,337 Speaker 3: that I had. And then fast forward. God was teaching 156 00:08:32,377 --> 00:08:34,656 Speaker 3: me about fasting and about hearing his voice. He was 157 00:08:34,697 --> 00:08:39,777 Speaker 3: speaking to me through social media, through nature, through friends, 158 00:08:39,857 --> 00:08:42,537 Speaker 3: do movies, do different things, and he just started getting 159 00:08:42,577 --> 00:08:46,977 Speaker 3: me comfortable with hearing him and just teaching me things. 160 00:08:47,017 --> 00:08:48,817 Speaker 3: And at first I wasn't reading the Bible because I 161 00:08:48,857 --> 00:08:51,377 Speaker 3: was like, I'm not reading the Bible, like, I'm gonna 162 00:08:51,417 --> 00:08:53,657 Speaker 3: just stick with just hearing his voice. But I didn't 163 00:08:53,697 --> 00:08:56,337 Speaker 3: realize he was feeding me the words in the Bible 164 00:08:56,937 --> 00:08:59,897 Speaker 3: in nature. I would go home and I'll be like, Mom, 165 00:08:59,937 --> 00:09:01,337 Speaker 3: God told me this today, and she'd be like, yo, 166 00:09:01,377 --> 00:09:02,897 Speaker 3: that's in a word, and I'm like what. So I 167 00:09:02,897 --> 00:09:04,857 Speaker 3: started realizing things that he was telling me was in 168 00:09:04,937 --> 00:09:07,457 Speaker 3: the word. Fast Forward, I was washing my hands and 169 00:09:07,457 --> 00:09:09,457 Speaker 3: God was like, I want you to make music for me, 170 00:09:10,177 --> 00:09:12,937 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I got this amazing R and B 171 00:09:13,057 --> 00:09:15,256 Speaker 3: album did I just finished? 172 00:09:15,497 --> 00:09:17,377 Speaker 1: Are you sure you want me to just let this go. 173 00:09:17,537 --> 00:09:18,697 Speaker 1: This is some great music. 174 00:09:19,217 --> 00:09:21,617 Speaker 3: But he was like, yeah, I'm gonna take you further 175 00:09:21,617 --> 00:09:23,817 Speaker 3: than you ever remember before, So I let it all 176 00:09:23,857 --> 00:09:27,297 Speaker 3: go for God started doing some Christian remixes and they 177 00:09:27,337 --> 00:09:30,137 Speaker 3: started going viral instantly. And everybody knows when you switch 178 00:09:30,217 --> 00:09:33,177 Speaker 3: up your style on social media, it doesn't instantly go crazy. 179 00:09:33,257 --> 00:09:35,217 Speaker 3: It takes a while for people to get used to it. 180 00:09:35,457 --> 00:09:38,817 Speaker 3: So I completely went from doing comedy and all this 181 00:09:38,897 --> 00:09:42,257 Speaker 3: stuff too. Now I'm being in a super serious like 182 00:09:43,457 --> 00:09:46,577 Speaker 3: inspirational artists where it just instantly hit Like my first 183 00:09:46,657 --> 00:09:49,217 Speaker 3: video I think hit like a million, like instantly, I'm like, what, 184 00:09:49,497 --> 00:09:51,857 Speaker 3: this is crazy? So I kept doing it and I 185 00:09:51,897 --> 00:09:54,497 Speaker 3: did all these different songs and they just started going viral, 186 00:09:54,577 --> 00:09:58,377 Speaker 3: and I started building this new support system and everybody 187 00:09:58,497 --> 00:10:01,817 Speaker 3: was just rooting for me. And then fast forward, Mom 188 00:10:01,857 --> 00:10:04,497 Speaker 3: goes to the hospital fighting for her life, and around 189 00:10:04,577 --> 00:10:08,857 Speaker 3: that moment, it's like God was training me on trusting 190 00:10:08,897 --> 00:10:11,897 Speaker 3: in him and having more faith and showing me that 191 00:10:11,977 --> 00:10:14,017 Speaker 3: he is a healer because we know of his healing, 192 00:10:14,257 --> 00:10:16,497 Speaker 3: but in that moment, I saw him heal my mom, 193 00:10:16,857 --> 00:10:20,217 Speaker 3: you know, And going through that, it's like I was 194 00:10:20,257 --> 00:10:23,697 Speaker 3: able to create wal Good this morning. And when I 195 00:10:23,737 --> 00:10:26,097 Speaker 3: made wal Good this morning, it was in the middle Kales. 196 00:10:26,137 --> 00:10:27,457 Speaker 3: I was about to lose my crib, Like I said, 197 00:10:27,457 --> 00:10:29,817 Speaker 3: I spent all my money because I was dealing with depression, suicide. 198 00:10:29,817 --> 00:10:32,137 Speaker 3: I was able to lose my house, dealing with greed. 199 00:10:32,257 --> 00:10:34,297 Speaker 3: My mom just came out of the hospital. It was 200 00:10:34,337 --> 00:10:36,897 Speaker 3: just so much going on in my life. But it's 201 00:10:36,937 --> 00:10:38,537 Speaker 3: like all I could think about was waking up in 202 00:10:38,577 --> 00:10:40,497 Speaker 3: the morning and praying to God and walking with him 203 00:10:40,537 --> 00:10:43,617 Speaker 3: on my walks, and just his presence just felt so calming. 204 00:10:43,697 --> 00:10:47,256 Speaker 3: I just felt so loved and validated and just reassured, 205 00:10:47,297 --> 00:10:48,937 Speaker 3: and I just felt like there was a reason for 206 00:10:48,977 --> 00:10:51,297 Speaker 3: me to be alive. And I just wrote about it 207 00:10:51,337 --> 00:10:53,137 Speaker 3: in my song, and I put all of what he 208 00:10:53,177 --> 00:10:56,977 Speaker 3: put in me in that record, and now it changed 209 00:10:57,017 --> 00:11:02,097 Speaker 3: my life. Do good what you have been in his presence? 210 00:11:03,697 --> 00:11:03,897 Speaker 2: Long? 211 00:11:05,057 --> 00:11:12,017 Speaker 3: I guess somebody here give me a piece, saying on 212 00:11:12,217 --> 00:11:13,417 Speaker 3: TV's asking. 213 00:11:18,337 --> 00:11:24,817 Speaker 1: His promise is always k just think everybody like react 214 00:11:24,857 --> 00:11:25,057 Speaker 1: to it. 215 00:11:25,137 --> 00:11:27,377 Speaker 3: Like I played this every morning, and this song has 216 00:11:27,417 --> 00:11:30,977 Speaker 3: changed my life. There's like Muslims and atheists and all 217 00:11:30,977 --> 00:11:35,256 Speaker 3: these different religions and cultures and people saying I love 218 00:11:35,337 --> 00:11:37,937 Speaker 3: this record. It brings me closer to God. They're like, 219 00:11:38,057 --> 00:11:40,617 Speaker 3: I'm a Muslim, but I love the song. So I've 220 00:11:40,657 --> 00:11:42,617 Speaker 3: seen people convert. I'm like, whoa. 221 00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:44,896 Speaker 1: And it's crazy because before. 222 00:11:44,657 --> 00:11:46,817 Speaker 3: I dropped the snippet, God said, dude, I'll worry about 223 00:11:46,817 --> 00:11:50,417 Speaker 3: the views I got you, and it just he showed 224 00:11:50,457 --> 00:11:52,937 Speaker 3: me that, just like he did the disciples. Put the 225 00:11:52,977 --> 00:11:55,057 Speaker 3: fish in the bread in my hand, I'm gonna multiply 226 00:11:55,097 --> 00:11:57,497 Speaker 3: it and magnify it. And I just kept putting my 227 00:11:57,617 --> 00:11:59,537 Speaker 3: music in his hand. I put it in his hands 228 00:11:59,537 --> 00:12:03,817 Speaker 3: and he magnified it. He multiplied it. And when God 229 00:12:03,897 --> 00:12:07,337 Speaker 3: is close signing you, I don't care what nobody say. 230 00:12:07,417 --> 00:12:11,497 Speaker 3: That's the best, the biggest, strongest, that's the greatest cosa 231 00:12:11,617 --> 00:12:13,537 Speaker 3: on earth is when you have God on your side, 232 00:12:13,657 --> 00:12:16,497 Speaker 3: the creator of all things. God has been carrying me 233 00:12:16,817 --> 00:12:21,737 Speaker 3: the whole time. It's all him. I'm reading Jesus Listens, 234 00:12:21,897 --> 00:12:26,497 Speaker 3: April twenty fifth. Trustworthy, Jesus, help me to welcome challenging 235 00:12:26,537 --> 00:12:29,937 Speaker 3: times as opportunities to trust you. I have you beside 236 00:12:29,977 --> 00:12:32,697 Speaker 3: me and your spirit within me, so no set of 237 00:12:32,737 --> 00:12:36,177 Speaker 3: circumstances is really too much for me to handle. However, 238 00:12:36,737 --> 00:12:38,977 Speaker 3: I confess that when the path before me is dotted 239 00:12:38,977 --> 00:12:43,017 Speaker 3: with difficulties, I usually start measuring my strength against those challenges. 240 00:12:43,497 --> 00:12:47,697 Speaker 3: Of course, that calculation invariably fills me with anxiety. Without 241 00:12:47,737 --> 00:12:50,017 Speaker 3: your help, I couldn't make it past the first hurdle. 242 00:12:50,497 --> 00:12:52,897 Speaker 3: You have been teaching me the right way to walk 243 00:12:52,897 --> 00:12:56,337 Speaker 3: through demanding days, gripping your hand tightly and staying in 244 00:12:56,377 --> 00:13:00,417 Speaker 3: close communication with you. Also, I've learned that I cope 245 00:13:00,537 --> 00:13:02,857 Speaker 3: much better with the demands of my day when my 246 00:13:02,937 --> 00:13:05,937 Speaker 3: thoughts and words are richly flavored with thankfulness and trust. 247 00:13:06,337 --> 00:13:08,737 Speaker 3: Instead of worrying about all of my problems, I want 248 00:13:08,777 --> 00:13:11,537 Speaker 3: to put my energy into thinking carefully about you. Your 249 00:13:11,537 --> 00:13:13,857 Speaker 3: word assures me that you will keep me in perfect 250 00:13:13,857 --> 00:13:16,457 Speaker 3: peace to the extent that my mind is focused on you, 251 00:13:16,937 --> 00:13:19,577 Speaker 3: trusting in you and your great name. Amen. 252 00:13:21,817 --> 00:13:25,057 Speaker 2: To learn more about Nathan, visit I Am Nathan Davis 253 00:13:25,177 --> 00:13:27,657 Speaker 2: Junior dot com and be sure to check out his 254 00:13:27,697 --> 00:13:30,697 Speaker 2: new song and EP Woke Up this morning. Wherever you 255 00:13:30,737 --> 00:13:33,897 Speaker 2: get your music, stay tuned to Tim tim AND's story 256 00:13:34,017 --> 00:13:44,177 Speaker 2: after a brief message. Looking for a source of daily 257 00:13:44,257 --> 00:13:47,417 Speaker 2: encouragement and peace, The Jesus Calling app brings you closer 258 00:13:47,457 --> 00:13:50,817 Speaker 2: to God with daily devotionals right on your phone. Explore 259 00:13:50,897 --> 00:13:54,977 Speaker 2: features like personalized daily devotionals and soothing audio readings. You 260 00:13:55,017 --> 00:13:58,697 Speaker 2: can bookmark your favorite passages, set reminders for your devotional time, 261 00:13:58,897 --> 00:14:02,817 Speaker 2: and even share inspirational messages with loved ones. Now, the 262 00:14:02,897 --> 00:14:05,817 Speaker 2: Jesus Calling App brings even more comfort and connection with 263 00:14:05,897 --> 00:14:10,017 Speaker 2: the introduction of Spanish devotions from author Sarah Young. Whether 264 00:14:10,097 --> 00:14:12,217 Speaker 2: you start your day with a quiet moment of reflection 265 00:14:12,657 --> 00:14:14,857 Speaker 2: or use it to end your evening in gratitude, the 266 00:14:14,937 --> 00:14:18,177 Speaker 2: Jesus Calling App offers comfort, guidance, and a deeper connection 267 00:14:18,217 --> 00:14:21,257 Speaker 2: to God at your fingertips. Get started today for free. 268 00:14:21,617 --> 00:14:24,017 Speaker 2: The Jesus Calling App is available in both the Apple 269 00:14:24,097 --> 00:14:34,257 Speaker 2: and Google Play stores. Our next guest is Tim Timmins, 270 00:14:34,417 --> 00:14:37,417 Speaker 2: a songwriter based in Nashville whose music was shaped by 271 00:14:37,417 --> 00:14:40,377 Speaker 2: a turning point he never expected. Known for his thoughtful 272 00:14:40,377 --> 00:14:43,777 Speaker 2: approach to songwriting, Tim creates work that invites listeners to 273 00:14:43,817 --> 00:14:46,897 Speaker 2: slow down, ask better questions, and pay attention to the 274 00:14:46,937 --> 00:14:49,857 Speaker 2: moments that matter. Through his songs and a nonprofit ten 275 00:14:49,897 --> 00:14:52,577 Speaker 2: thousand Minutes, he encourages a way of living that extends 276 00:14:52,617 --> 00:14:57,177 Speaker 2: far beyond the spotlight moments and into everyday life. 277 00:14:57,417 --> 00:15:00,257 Speaker 1: My name is Tim Timmins. I am a dad of 278 00:15:00,337 --> 00:15:04,097 Speaker 1: four teenagers, so I'm pretty much the expert right now 279 00:15:04,097 --> 00:15:06,337 Speaker 1: on parenting. So if you guys have a any questions, 280 00:15:06,457 --> 00:15:09,297 Speaker 1: just ask me. I've been married for twenty eight years 281 00:15:09,297 --> 00:15:13,937 Speaker 1: to Hillary Timmons, and I'm from Orange County, California, and 282 00:15:13,977 --> 00:15:18,657 Speaker 1: now past eleven years, we live in Nashville, and I 283 00:15:18,697 --> 00:15:22,057 Speaker 1: get to write songs and prayers for a living. I 284 00:15:22,097 --> 00:15:24,537 Speaker 1: don't know if the world needs more Christian music, but 285 00:15:24,657 --> 00:15:27,377 Speaker 1: I do know that if people would pray some of 286 00:15:27,457 --> 00:15:30,937 Speaker 1: these prayers put to songs, I think we could be 287 00:15:31,057 --> 00:15:33,817 Speaker 1: more beautiful. So I get to write songs and prayers 288 00:15:33,817 --> 00:15:37,617 Speaker 1: that help me and hopefully the whole community join Jesus 289 00:15:37,737 --> 00:15:39,897 Speaker 1: during our week. So that's really what I get to do. 290 00:15:40,057 --> 00:15:44,497 Speaker 1: And I think I want on my tombstone disruptor and inviter, 291 00:15:44,857 --> 00:15:46,897 Speaker 1: so that's kind of what I get to do. I 292 00:15:47,057 --> 00:15:50,257 Speaker 1: get to just be a guy who hangs out with 293 00:15:50,457 --> 00:15:53,777 Speaker 1: Jesus and joins him and what he's doing. I grew 294 00:15:53,897 --> 00:15:58,137 Speaker 1: up a pastor's kid in Orange County, California, and it 295 00:15:58,177 --> 00:16:02,057 Speaker 1: was really a great experience until I guess my freshman 296 00:16:02,137 --> 00:16:05,537 Speaker 1: year of high school and some stuff happened in my family, 297 00:16:05,897 --> 00:16:08,577 Speaker 1: and you know, it was on the news and the newspaper, 298 00:16:08,617 --> 00:16:10,497 Speaker 1: it was on TV and radio. It was just kind 299 00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:11,697 Speaker 1: of a big deal. It was kind of one of 300 00:16:11,777 --> 00:16:16,737 Speaker 1: my first sorrows. And we then left that church, and man, 301 00:16:16,817 --> 00:16:20,497 Speaker 1: it was really shaping for me to see, Okay, who 302 00:16:20,537 --> 00:16:23,337 Speaker 1: are we as Jesus people? How do we love one 303 00:16:23,377 --> 00:16:26,777 Speaker 1: another well? And not love each other well? And it 304 00:16:27,337 --> 00:16:30,097 Speaker 1: brought me a lot of questions about God, like what 305 00:16:30,137 --> 00:16:33,417 Speaker 1: are we actually doing? Like what's this church thing? Who 306 00:16:33,457 --> 00:16:37,537 Speaker 1: are we supposed to be? That was pretty foundational for me. 307 00:16:37,857 --> 00:16:41,137 Speaker 1: And then all the people that shaped me during those years. 308 00:16:41,777 --> 00:16:44,817 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for them, and I actually call them amors. 309 00:16:45,257 --> 00:16:47,177 Speaker 1: You know, they didn't make me be like them, they 310 00:16:47,217 --> 00:16:50,297 Speaker 1: aimed me into who God created me to be. And 311 00:16:50,337 --> 00:16:53,137 Speaker 1: what a gift to have AMers and now to hopefully 312 00:16:53,137 --> 00:16:55,217 Speaker 1: be that for people was so great. But I never 313 00:16:55,257 --> 00:16:57,177 Speaker 1: wanted to be like in Christian music. I was a 314 00:16:57,177 --> 00:16:58,897 Speaker 1: good worship leader just because it was what I knew 315 00:16:58,897 --> 00:17:01,177 Speaker 1: how to do well. But I always wanted to be 316 00:17:01,337 --> 00:17:03,977 Speaker 1: like switch Foot. We grew up playing with Switchfoot in 317 00:17:04,057 --> 00:17:05,857 Speaker 1: San Diego and then all of a sudden they took 318 00:17:05,897 --> 00:17:08,456 Speaker 1: off and we just wanted to go out into the 319 00:17:08,456 --> 00:17:11,337 Speaker 1: world and point people to truth and let Jesus do 320 00:17:11,457 --> 00:17:17,297 Speaker 1: his job. And then two weeks before I was about 321 00:17:17,297 --> 00:17:20,777 Speaker 1: to leave a church job to go pursue a mainstream career, 322 00:17:21,497 --> 00:17:24,897 Speaker 1: that's when I found out that I had an incurable 323 00:17:25,417 --> 00:17:30,097 Speaker 1: cancer that gave me five years to live stage four. 324 00:17:30,657 --> 00:17:33,417 Speaker 1: And it was like, well, okay, things are changing here. 325 00:17:33,977 --> 00:17:36,817 Speaker 1: So at that point, my church community, which is Mariner's 326 00:17:36,857 --> 00:17:39,257 Speaker 1: Church in Orange County, a really great community. They kept 327 00:17:39,337 --> 00:17:43,657 Speaker 1: me on and then God changed my heart to say, Okay, 328 00:17:43,697 --> 00:17:46,057 Speaker 1: I could go get a fan at a time, or 329 00:17:46,137 --> 00:17:49,737 Speaker 1: I could help a whole community of people pray these 330 00:17:49,737 --> 00:17:53,137 Speaker 1: prayers together. And what if these songs that we prayed 331 00:17:53,177 --> 00:17:55,057 Speaker 1: that were singing, you know, we call them worship songs, 332 00:17:55,057 --> 00:17:58,817 Speaker 1: but like, if we prayed these songs, what could actually 333 00:17:58,857 --> 00:18:02,897 Speaker 1: happen if each of these people started looking more like Jesus. 334 00:18:03,457 --> 00:18:08,057 Speaker 1: So that got me into a passionate pursuit of helping 335 00:18:08,097 --> 00:18:12,736 Speaker 1: people Jesus people sing prayers all week long. As I 336 00:18:12,777 --> 00:18:17,057 Speaker 1: remember those first days finding out about cancer, and those 337 00:18:17,057 --> 00:18:22,017 Speaker 1: were some sobering days. I was recently married. You know, 338 00:18:22,057 --> 00:18:24,456 Speaker 1: you have your whole life ahead of you. You think, okay, 339 00:18:24,457 --> 00:18:26,417 Speaker 1: what do we want to do kids all these things. 340 00:18:26,857 --> 00:18:28,936 Speaker 1: Hillary and I had been married, I think for three years, 341 00:18:29,737 --> 00:18:31,697 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you have a five year 342 00:18:33,017 --> 00:18:36,497 Speaker 1: death sentence put on you. At that point, I was 343 00:18:36,577 --> 00:18:40,817 Speaker 1: forced to ask a few questions like is God actually God? 344 00:18:41,457 --> 00:18:44,897 Speaker 1: And if he is God, is he good? Or is 345 00:18:44,937 --> 00:18:47,737 Speaker 1: he just the guy giving me cancer because he wants another? 346 00:18:48,577 --> 00:18:51,497 Speaker 1: You know, worship leader in heaven is what everybody says. 347 00:18:52,657 --> 00:18:54,976 Speaker 1: And if he is God, and if he is good, 348 00:18:55,697 --> 00:18:58,097 Speaker 1: what's he think about me? And what's my role in that? 349 00:18:58,817 --> 00:19:01,497 Speaker 1: And I had to really wrestle with those questions. And 350 00:19:01,897 --> 00:19:04,777 Speaker 1: I'm still wrestling with those questions. To be honest, I 351 00:19:04,777 --> 00:19:06,377 Speaker 1: wish I could say I don't figure it out, but 352 00:19:06,457 --> 00:19:11,897 Speaker 1: I don't. But at some point I remember saying, Okay, God, 353 00:19:12,017 --> 00:19:15,857 Speaker 1: I don't know how all this works, but I think 354 00:19:15,937 --> 00:19:19,137 Speaker 1: your way is the most beautiful way I can see. 355 00:19:19,337 --> 00:19:21,537 Speaker 1: It's like living as though something is true. It's the 356 00:19:21,537 --> 00:19:25,577 Speaker 1: actual definition of to believe. It's like this verb of faith. 357 00:19:26,057 --> 00:19:29,017 Speaker 1: I'm believing as though this is true. So it really 358 00:19:29,017 --> 00:19:31,736 Speaker 1: became a sobering moment for me to say, Okay, I'm 359 00:19:31,737 --> 00:19:34,177 Speaker 1: going to bet my one and only life on you Jesus, 360 00:19:34,617 --> 00:19:41,777 Speaker 1: so you lead on. So twenty five years later after 361 00:19:41,937 --> 00:19:47,057 Speaker 1: my diagnosis, what's it looked like? I don't fully know, 362 00:19:47,297 --> 00:19:50,617 Speaker 1: and I'll let you know in hopefully the next year 363 00:19:50,617 --> 00:19:53,417 Speaker 1: that I get I wrote this in my book, but 364 00:19:53,657 --> 00:19:55,257 Speaker 1: I'm trying to not use a lot of words with 365 00:19:55,537 --> 00:19:57,777 Speaker 1: ed at the end of them. These days, I want 366 00:19:57,817 --> 00:19:59,776 Speaker 1: to use more words with im G and them like 367 00:20:00,217 --> 00:20:02,497 Speaker 1: I've learned this, I've figured this, and I'm like, no, 368 00:20:02,577 --> 00:20:07,137 Speaker 1: you haven't. I've discovered this. I'm discovering. I'm learning, I 369 00:20:07,217 --> 00:20:11,017 Speaker 1: am growing and processing all these things. So as far 370 00:20:11,017 --> 00:20:14,297 Speaker 1: as today goes, there are things that I'm learning. And 371 00:20:15,057 --> 00:20:17,697 Speaker 1: in these past twenty five years. One of the greatest 372 00:20:17,737 --> 00:20:21,577 Speaker 1: gifts of cancer is not cancer itself. I think cancer 373 00:20:21,657 --> 00:20:26,777 Speaker 1: is stupid and I have zero affection for cancer. I'm 374 00:20:26,897 --> 00:20:31,817 Speaker 1: learning so much through it, continually learning so much through it, 375 00:20:32,377 --> 00:20:35,537 Speaker 1: And I think the greatest gift of cancer has been 376 00:20:35,937 --> 00:20:40,097 Speaker 1: or sorrow is sobriety. Honestly, it's not like alcohol or 377 00:20:40,177 --> 00:20:43,577 Speaker 1: drug sobriety, which that is too, but sobriety. And just 378 00:20:43,657 --> 00:20:47,137 Speaker 1: to today perspective, I got to wake up again today. 379 00:20:47,257 --> 00:20:50,137 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be here today. There's no reason all this 380 00:20:50,137 --> 00:20:52,297 Speaker 1: stuff should be happening because I shouldn't be here, but 381 00:20:52,897 --> 00:20:57,377 Speaker 1: somehow I got to wake up again this morning. So 382 00:20:57,577 --> 00:21:02,577 Speaker 1: because of that, I'm just gonna find gratitude for this day. 383 00:21:02,617 --> 00:21:04,337 Speaker 1: This is the day that you have made God, I 384 00:21:04,337 --> 00:21:07,417 Speaker 1: will rejoice and be glad and the fact that you 385 00:21:07,457 --> 00:21:09,777 Speaker 1: woke me up again, even in the midst of sorrow, 386 00:21:10,097 --> 00:21:12,936 Speaker 1: you woke me up. So how do I join you? 387 00:21:12,977 --> 00:21:15,897 Speaker 1: Well today, that's how it shaped me. And I'm so grateful. 388 00:21:16,017 --> 00:21:17,657 Speaker 1: I would not be the man I am today, or 389 00:21:17,697 --> 00:21:20,417 Speaker 1: the husband, or the dad, or the follower of Jesus 390 00:21:20,457 --> 00:21:25,377 Speaker 1: I am today without sorrow. One of my best friends, 391 00:21:25,377 --> 00:21:27,857 Speaker 1: Bart Millard from the band Mercy Me. He and I 392 00:21:27,897 --> 00:21:31,697 Speaker 1: had written a song together called even If That's kind 393 00:21:31,697 --> 00:21:35,817 Speaker 1: of through some of my great struggle with my cancer journey. 394 00:21:35,817 --> 00:21:38,777 Speaker 1: And then Bart and his son, his son's gone through 395 00:21:38,897 --> 00:21:43,976 Speaker 1: a whole life of diabetes and just the sorrow that 396 00:21:44,017 --> 00:21:45,977 Speaker 1: we both have to hold in, the grief we both 397 00:21:46,017 --> 00:21:48,537 Speaker 1: have to hold. And there's a movie that is called 398 00:21:48,577 --> 00:21:51,617 Speaker 1: I Can Only Imagine Two, and the movie's really about 399 00:21:51,737 --> 00:21:55,297 Speaker 1: our journey through grief and gratitude, he and his wife 400 00:21:55,337 --> 00:21:59,337 Speaker 1: and his son, and my journey with cancer with Hillary 401 00:21:59,777 --> 00:22:02,057 Speaker 1: trying to figure out, how does God work and all 402 00:22:02,097 --> 00:22:04,217 Speaker 1: this stuff, and so what I love about this movie 403 00:22:04,217 --> 00:22:06,817 Speaker 1: honestly is that everything's not tied up with a bow 404 00:22:06,977 --> 00:22:10,337 Speaker 1: at the end, because most of our Christian stuff is like, 405 00:22:10,417 --> 00:22:12,577 Speaker 1: you know what, but everything worked out great, look at 406 00:22:12,577 --> 00:22:15,537 Speaker 1: what God did. And it's like, yes, I still woke 407 00:22:15,617 --> 00:22:18,857 Speaker 1: up today, but I still I have tumors on my 408 00:22:18,897 --> 00:22:22,657 Speaker 1: liver today, wearing out my heart. Not everything is tied 409 00:22:22,737 --> 00:22:24,777 Speaker 1: up in a bow, because in life that's not true. 410 00:22:24,937 --> 00:22:27,137 Speaker 1: So I'm really proud of this story and how they 411 00:22:27,177 --> 00:22:30,177 Speaker 1: told it that it's like, yeah, cool things happened, and 412 00:22:30,257 --> 00:22:32,977 Speaker 1: yet life's still hard and we're in the middle of it. 413 00:22:33,657 --> 00:22:37,537 Speaker 1: And I really love that tension. So I hope this 414 00:22:37,617 --> 00:22:40,657 Speaker 1: movie is really encouraging for people just that they're not 415 00:22:40,777 --> 00:22:44,617 Speaker 1: alone that life's hard. In the movie, I talk about 416 00:22:45,097 --> 00:22:49,057 Speaker 1: holding the tension between holding grief and gratitude that we 417 00:22:49,137 --> 00:22:53,777 Speaker 1: woke up again today and life's hard and God's good. 418 00:22:54,497 --> 00:23:00,137 Speaker 1: In ancient times, the Jewish community practiced sitting shiva when 419 00:23:00,177 --> 00:23:03,297 Speaker 1: somebody would pass away or they're in deep sorrow. You 420 00:23:03,497 --> 00:23:06,337 Speaker 1: just sit with somebody and sit in their lament, and 421 00:23:06,377 --> 00:23:08,016 Speaker 1: if they wanted to get up and eat, you'd get 422 00:23:08,097 --> 00:23:11,457 Speaker 1: up and eat. If they wanted to talk, you'd talk. 423 00:23:11,497 --> 00:23:13,777 Speaker 1: If they just want to be quiet and sleep, you'd 424 00:23:13,817 --> 00:23:16,936 Speaker 1: just sleep. And I think there's something really powerful about that. 425 00:23:17,617 --> 00:23:21,457 Speaker 1: And in my Christian circles growing up, it was like, Oh, 426 00:23:21,497 --> 00:23:24,097 Speaker 1: this is a hard thing, but God is good and 427 00:23:24,137 --> 00:23:26,057 Speaker 1: I'm just not a fan of the butt in the 428 00:23:26,097 --> 00:23:28,297 Speaker 1: middle of that, I'm trying to figure out how to 429 00:23:28,657 --> 00:23:31,217 Speaker 1: live with the idea of saying life is hard, this 430 00:23:31,297 --> 00:23:36,736 Speaker 1: thing is really hard, it sucks, period, I'm so sorry 431 00:23:36,737 --> 00:23:41,057 Speaker 1: for this. And what if God is actually good and 432 00:23:41,097 --> 00:23:43,217 Speaker 1: he's at work even in the middle of the fire. 433 00:23:44,217 --> 00:23:46,737 Speaker 1: So for me, that is so profound and I want 434 00:23:46,737 --> 00:23:49,377 Speaker 1: to be the guy living as though these both can exist, 435 00:23:49,457 --> 00:23:52,017 Speaker 1: and I could hold the tension of these two that 436 00:23:52,137 --> 00:24:01,016 Speaker 1: God is good and life's hard and God's good. There 437 00:24:01,017 --> 00:24:04,617 Speaker 1: are ten and eighty minutes in a week, and if 438 00:24:04,657 --> 00:24:06,657 Speaker 1: all of our resources as they're going towards this little 439 00:24:06,697 --> 00:24:10,337 Speaker 1: eighty minutes versus the ten thousand minutes, where that's when 440 00:24:10,377 --> 00:24:13,456 Speaker 1: the stuff hits the fan is in the ten thousand minutes. 441 00:24:14,217 --> 00:24:17,177 Speaker 1: I've loved the idea of Jesus calling for a long time, 442 00:24:17,217 --> 00:24:19,137 Speaker 1: and when it first started, I was like, this is 443 00:24:19,217 --> 00:24:22,457 Speaker 1: so beautiful because, as I've said over a thousand times 444 00:24:22,457 --> 00:24:25,417 Speaker 1: so far, today we get good at what we practice, 445 00:24:26,097 --> 00:24:29,977 Speaker 1: and we get good at who were with. And I'm 446 00:24:30,017 --> 00:24:33,297 Speaker 1: worshiping things all day long. FYI. So if we say, hey, 447 00:24:33,297 --> 00:24:36,257 Speaker 1: are you you're a worshiper, Yeah, we're all worshippers. I'm 448 00:24:36,297 --> 00:24:40,097 Speaker 1: just worshiping different things. And my favorite definition of worship 449 00:24:40,257 --> 00:24:43,457 Speaker 1: is attention. One of the definitions of worship is attention. 450 00:24:44,217 --> 00:24:47,337 Speaker 1: What has your attention in the way that we're actually 451 00:24:47,377 --> 00:24:49,737 Speaker 1: starting our day or ending our day, or during our day, 452 00:24:49,777 --> 00:24:53,937 Speaker 1: we're saying, Jesus, you have my attention. And with Jesus calling, 453 00:24:53,977 --> 00:24:58,497 Speaker 1: it's just these invitations every day to say, Okay, Jesus, 454 00:24:58,577 --> 00:25:01,337 Speaker 1: thank you for this reminder. Today you have my attention. 455 00:25:05,777 --> 00:25:07,976 Speaker 1: I just want to be the guy who with my 456 00:25:08,097 --> 00:25:10,696 Speaker 1: family we are practicing the way of Jesus in the 457 00:25:10,737 --> 00:25:13,977 Speaker 1: ten thousand Minutes, and that our eighty minute gathering would 458 00:25:13,977 --> 00:25:16,697 Speaker 1: actually help us look more like Jesus in the ten 459 00:25:16,697 --> 00:25:20,057 Speaker 1: thousand Minutes. So my friends and I we started a 460 00:25:20,097 --> 00:25:23,897 Speaker 1: nonprofit called ten thousand Minutes, and so it's something that 461 00:25:23,977 --> 00:25:28,577 Speaker 1: I love dearly and it's just shaped me. I get 462 00:25:28,617 --> 00:25:31,017 Speaker 1: good at what I practice everybody who's listening. You get 463 00:25:31,057 --> 00:25:34,777 Speaker 1: good at what you practice. So ten thousand minutes is 464 00:25:34,817 --> 00:25:37,377 Speaker 1: really we do podcasts. We've got a lot of resources 465 00:25:37,417 --> 00:25:40,017 Speaker 1: on there and so much more to come, but we 466 00:25:40,097 --> 00:25:42,457 Speaker 1: just want to encourage each other to practice the way 467 00:25:42,457 --> 00:25:45,777 Speaker 1: of Jesus in the ten thousand minutes. I mean, how 468 00:25:45,817 --> 00:25:49,057 Speaker 1: much more beautiful would that be of Jesus people practice 469 00:25:49,097 --> 00:25:51,497 Speaker 1: the way of Jesus and joined him in the ten 470 00:25:51,537 --> 00:25:54,537 Speaker 1: thousand minutes, not just in the eighty minutes. You could 471 00:25:54,537 --> 00:25:57,177 Speaker 1: hear magget little passionate about this, because what could happen 472 00:25:57,297 --> 00:26:01,857 Speaker 1: in our world, just in our cities, in our country 473 00:26:02,017 --> 00:26:06,017 Speaker 1: if the politic that we were about wasn't the politic 474 00:26:06,057 --> 00:26:08,577 Speaker 1: of our country, but was the politic of the Kingdom 475 00:26:08,617 --> 00:26:12,137 Speaker 1: of God, where his laws are love and beauty. I mean, 476 00:26:12,177 --> 00:26:15,577 Speaker 1: it's just like if we joined Jesus as a community, 477 00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:19,897 Speaker 1: whatever side you are on the political aisle, what could happen? 478 00:26:21,057 --> 00:26:23,617 Speaker 1: Gid yap people, let's join Jesus together. 479 00:26:26,577 --> 00:26:29,657 Speaker 2: To learn more about Tim Timmins, visit Tim Timmins music 480 00:26:29,697 --> 00:26:31,937 Speaker 2: dot com and be sure to check out the song 481 00:26:32,137 --> 00:26:35,177 Speaker 2: even if by mercy me wherever you get your music. 482 00:26:36,417 --> 00:26:38,577 Speaker 2: If you'd like to hear more stories about praising God 483 00:26:38,617 --> 00:26:41,897 Speaker 2: amid uncertainty, check out our interview with Chris Tomlin and 484 00:26:41,977 --> 00:26:54,257 Speaker 2: Darren Whitehead. Next time on the Jesus Calling podcast, we'll 485 00:26:54,257 --> 00:26:58,417 Speaker 2: hear from Savannah, Banana's baseball player and content creator Robert 486 00:26:58,497 --> 00:27:02,257 Speaker 2: Anthony Cruz, known as Coach RAC, who shares how learning 487 00:27:02,297 --> 00:27:04,897 Speaker 2: to release the fear of failure has transformed the way 488 00:27:04,937 --> 00:27:06,936 Speaker 2: he plays and leads his team. 489 00:27:07,977 --> 00:27:10,937 Speaker 4: If you want to grow, then be connected to the body. 490 00:27:11,297 --> 00:27:14,577 Speaker 4: I found that God created us to be unified as 491 00:27:14,617 --> 00:27:17,737 Speaker 4: one body. And maybe you're a toe, or maybe you're 492 00:27:17,777 --> 00:27:19,737 Speaker 4: a foot or whatever it is that you are. If 493 00:27:19,737 --> 00:27:21,736 Speaker 4: you're disconnected from the body, there's no way for you 494 00:27:21,777 --> 00:27:24,417 Speaker 4: to grow and receive nouragement. So be connected to the body, 495 00:27:24,457 --> 00:27:25,537 Speaker 4: be connected to the vine. 496 00:27:32,377 --> 00:27:34,936 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the Jesus Calling Stories of Faith 497 00:27:34,977 --> 00:27:38,817 Speaker 2: podcast on the Life Audio Network. Every week we'll bring 498 00:27:38,857 --> 00:27:41,456 Speaker 2: you stories from people who share their journeys of faith 499 00:27:41,777 --> 00:27:45,497 Speaker 2: and how prayer and a relationship with God transform their lives. 500 00:27:46,257 --> 00:27:49,657 Speaker 2: Be sure to follow us on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or 501 00:27:49,697 --> 00:27:52,976 Speaker 2: wherever you listen to podcasts, and leave us a review 502 00:27:53,057 --> 00:27:57,257 Speaker 2: so others can be inspired weekly by these stories of faith. 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