1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: to the Aaron Mullin Show. It's great to have your company. Now, 3 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: my friends, it's not often that I do an interview 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: and just go, what the hell was that? That was 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: my reaction after today's guest, and not for the reason. 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: You might think Rabbi Werelicki. They called him Charlie Kirk's Rabbi. 7 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: I was expecting kind of here. I mean, he's got 8 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: a great reputation, he's brilliant, he knows his stuff back 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: to front. Charlie Kirk used him for sparring practice before 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: his town squares. 11 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: But what I got, Wow, it's coming right up. First, 12 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: let's hear from my partners. 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: How much cash do you have sitting in your savings 14 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: account right now? Fifty grand, one hundred, two hundred. Most 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: Americans love seeing a big bank balance, and I get it, 16 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: lots of cash, big numbers, But they don't realize it's 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: not a good way to maintain your buying power. 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Now, hopefully you've picked up on 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: the fact that what I am saying is that he 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: exceeded even the highest of expectations and in every way 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: he annihilated Tucker Carlson, Megan. 40 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: Kelly, Candice Owens. 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: In ways you have not heard before and ways that 42 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: will hurt them way more than anything else. I can 43 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: guarantee you, because we're kind of all similar beasts in 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: this space in regards to. 45 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: What will hurt us. 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: Other things we can brush off the way he tears 47 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: them apart. 48 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: Whoa, Oh, and that's just a start. That is just 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 2: the start. 50 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: He talks about the neighbors of Iran and what they 51 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: actually want the result of this war to be, regime change, 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: What does it actually look like? He picks up, and 53 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: a couple of things that Trump has said that I 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: haven't seen covered anywhere. Oh and my last question to him, 55 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: given how close jd Vance is to turning Point Usa 56 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: to Erica and how close he was to Charlie, I said, 57 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: who's next, Marco Rubio or JD Vance? His answer will 58 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: blow your mind. 59 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: I'm so excited for you to watch this. So without 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: further ado, here he is, Rabbi Willicki. 61 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: It is such an honor to have you on, Aaron Mullincho, 62 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me. 63 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: Honored to be with you, Aer. 64 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: I'd love to. 65 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Start with I mean, they're a trio of people, Rabbi, 66 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: that I hate talking about, and I've promised my audience 67 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: that once they become irrelevant, I will no longer give 68 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: them any airtime. But whilst they still get airtime, we 69 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: have to be combatated and counter them and I want 70 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: to start with Tucker Carlson. The US president finally basically publicly. 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: Watched him, but he held back a little bit. 72 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: Do you think something bigger is coming from Trump, particularly 73 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: after today where Tucker Carlson said that complete surrender means 74 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: that now US troops can essentially rape the wives and 75 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: daughters of those left behind. I don't know if you 76 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: saw that, but this was his latest just recently. 77 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 4: Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife 78 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: and daughter if they want. And everyone knows that, and 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 4: that has been if there's one consistent lesson of history 80 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 4: means unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your 81 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 4: wife and daughter. Everyone can feel that. That's like the 82 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 4: most atavistic instinct there is. And so to avoid that, 83 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: people will do anything. And so that's why it requires 84 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 4: that level of force to get a population subdued to 85 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: the point of unconditional surrender. That's why. And so in 86 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 4: this case, of course, we don't have the ground force necessary. 87 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: I don't think Americans would voluntarily participate in it. I 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 4: just don't think we can do that. It would require 89 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 4: weapons of mess destruction, It would require presumably nuclear weapons 90 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 4: in order to do that. And let's stop, let's not 91 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: lie to ourselves. We're moving toward that. 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's good. Let me explain, you know, 93 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: in the if you think about the battlefield as an 94 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: information warfare space, right, and we're and there are people 95 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: who are locked into certain sides, and then there's the 96 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: big floating middle, and that floating middle shifts around in 97 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: terms of its opinions and your and the goal in 98 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: this information warfare space is to peel off more of 99 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 3: that middle onto your side. Right, That's how the battlefield looks. 100 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: The more extreme and unhinged Tucker Carlson becomes. Like when 101 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 3: he attacked Kabbad last week, every Jew in the world knows, 102 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: and a lot of non Jews know that Kabbad is 103 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: the least political organization on the planet. All they do 104 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: is humanitarian work, and their theology is that like, if 105 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: we all are just better people, that'll bring the Messiah. 106 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 3: Like they're just the sweetest people in the world and 107 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 3: they don't get involved in any politics in the Jewish 108 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: community at all, and he attacks them for being so 109 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: when he does things like this, or saying things about 110 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: Israeli soldiers, or when he sits on a stage in 111 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia, which, according to Open Doors International, is one 112 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 3: of the worst places on the planet to be a Christian, 113 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: where on the books conversion to Christianity brings a death penalty, 114 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: and even though they don't fulfill that all the time, 115 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: if a woman converts to Christianity in Saudi Arabia, her 116 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 3: children are confiscated from her. That's what they do. Churches 117 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 3: are illegal. And he sits on a stage there and says, 118 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: as a fervent Christian, I feel very comfortable in the 119 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 3: seat of Islam. But there are two million Christians who 120 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: are among the most persecuted Christians in the world in 121 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia. So when he does things like this, he's 122 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: not gaining any new followers. Here's the point I was 123 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: making about the battlefield. He's not gaining any new followers. 124 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 3: The more unhinged he yets, the more he narrows the 125 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: population of people who take him seriously. And just think 126 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: of it this way, Aaron, every time he goes a 127 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: little too far, there's one more slice of his audience 128 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: that walks away from him, and he doesn't gain anyone new. 129 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: There's no one. There's no one more extreme than him, 130 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: who wasn't on board with him yet who suddenly is. 131 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: So I think it's good. I want Tucker to keep 132 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,239 Speaker 3: going in this direction. He's shrinking his influence, he's shrinking 133 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 3: his audience. And Trump, who always has his finger on 134 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: the pulse of where the middle is. That's how he won. 135 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: That's how he won in sixteen, That's how he really 136 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: won in twenty but that's how he also won in 137 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: twenty four. He won, right, So I think Tucker Carlson 138 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: is doing us all a big favor. He as he 139 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: pushes the envelope and pushes the envelope. Let them scream, 140 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: let them be loud, but they are not gaining influence. 141 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: And it's a great point you make in that. 142 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: I would argue that Tucker is far more dangerous than 143 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: someone like Candas, because Candas has gone completely batbep crazy, 144 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: whereas Tucker kind of had that semblance of still kind 145 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: of being semi credible. He was on Fox News for 146 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: a long time. He's just asking questions, He's just asking questions. 147 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: He's now completely crossed that line. I wanted to ask 148 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: you about Megan Kelly as well, because she shared something 149 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: from Charlie today and kind of, you know, a post 150 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: he'd made about the drums of war a beating and 151 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: trying to frame those thoughts as the exact thoughts that 152 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: he would have now given all the circumstances that have 153 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: changed since Charlie's death. You knew Charlie Kirk almost better 154 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: than anyone. Do you agree that he would still feel 155 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: that this was not a just war, that this action 156 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been taken. 157 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't say that I knew him better than anyone, 158 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: but his positions on the Middle East in Israel, I'm 159 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: definitely I could say that I'm more qualified than almost 160 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: anyone to talk about because the entire substance of my 161 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: relationship was that Charlie had subject matter experts on every 162 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: topic that he talked about, that he relied on to 163 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: just get good information. And he knew that if he 164 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: was going to talk about Israel, he should have someone 165 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 3: on the ground in Israel who knows the situation, who 166 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: also understands Conservative America first, MAGA politics and the And 167 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: that was a relationship. It was a very professional relationship, 168 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: but it was an ongoing daily texting and talking relationship. 169 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what he would say, because he 170 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: said it in June. In the June twelve Day War, 171 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: Charlie in the lead up to it, was in the 172 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: camp that was opposed to America stepping in and taking action. 173 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 3: He was opposed, meaning he was in the same sense 174 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 3: that Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson and many others in 175 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: the America First Movement were saying, look, this is Israel's war, 176 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 3: Let Israel fight it. America shouldn't get involved, and worrying 177 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: about getting involved in a regime change war or another 178 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: Middle Eastern quagmire. Charlie was there except for one day 179 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: difference where he broke from that other pack, which was 180 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 3: he said this, and he said it multiple times. He 181 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: said it on Jesse Waters on Fox, he said it 182 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: on his own show. He said, Donald Trump has earned 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: my trust, and he has earned all of our trust. 184 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 3: And therefore, even though I'm worried about this, even though 185 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: I don't like this, even though I'm afraid of escalation, 186 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: even though I feel that America should be more focused domestically, YadA, YadA, YadA, 187 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 3: the whole, the whole litany we know. He then his 188 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: pivot was he said, however, I trust Donald Trump he's 189 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: earned our trust that he's not going to he's not 190 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: going to make those mistakes. And then when Midnight Hammer happened, 191 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: and all of the doomsday predictions of the Tucker Carlson's 192 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: of the world, Oh there's gonna be a you know, 193 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: there's gonna be a third World War. Russia and China 194 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: are going to join. Of course, they didn't understand. 195 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: They being really solid to their good friends. 196 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: Yet O love, I love, and they're they're hilarious. 197 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: Gee, we we're under a little bit of pressure. Would 198 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: you mind sending a little gee? 199 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: I mean, no better than it's better than that, Aaron 200 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin, listen to this. On the second day of 201 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: this war, Vladimir Putin sent a condolence message to the 202 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: Iranians for the death of Ali Khamaney. In the condolence message, 203 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: he said that Russia stands committed to our strategic partnership 204 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: with Iran. Now, what's the problem with that. The strategic 205 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: partnership with Iran signed between Russia and Iran was signed 206 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: in January twenty twenty five, right after Trump was elected, 207 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: and it is a military and defense strategic partnership, which 208 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: means that they're supposed to be helping them and he's 209 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: not helping them, and he sends a condolence note putin 210 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: cracks me up. But back to Tucker, when all of 211 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: those doomsday predictions didn't come true, Charlie came out smelling 212 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: like a rose because Charlie said afterwards, he said, look, listen, 213 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: I was worried, but Trump was right. We didn't get 214 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: entangled in a long term mess. No American soldiers were killed, 215 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: there was no boots on the ground, there was no 216 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: spike in oil prices, there was no escalation with Russia 217 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 3: and China, and he acknowledged. And what Charlie would be 218 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: saying now would be the same thing. He'd be saying, 219 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: I don't like this, yeah, but I trust Trump. I'm 220 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: sure that's what he'd be saying. 221 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because for Megan Kelly to use Charlie 222 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: Kirk's phrase tweet from however long ago, and it feels 223 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: very disingenuous when she refuses to call out Candice Owens 224 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: for completely trying to destroy Erica Kirk Charlie's widow. I 225 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: just it feels, it feels tacky and it feels dirty. 226 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 3: Well that's Megan, I mean look when you look at 227 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 3: the three of them, these these that you mentioned so 228 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 3: far in this discussion, they're not all but they're not 229 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: all the same. I would say Tucker is very is 230 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: uh is brilliant about messaging. He's one of the He's 231 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: one of the best communicators of our generation. And that's 232 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: why he's so successful. I personally believe, and this is 233 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: just an observation from watching him closely from many years, 234 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: and I believe this even back when we all liked him, 235 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: when he was on Fox and we didn't know what 236 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: you know what, I've always I've always been bothered by 237 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: the fact that he appears to me to be someone 238 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: who is not well read. People who speak that much 239 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: in public generally quote books that they've read at some 240 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: point in conversations, especially in long form conversations. Tucker has 241 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: a lot of long form conversations. Listen to him, Aaron, 242 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: He never I don't think he's well read, and he 243 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 3: often acts surprised when someone brings up a historical fact 244 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: that to anyone who's a simple student of history is obvious. 245 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 3: I believe that Tucker Carlson is not well read, and 246 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 3: that he's a poser, but he's very smart. Candace Owens 247 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: is actually not that smart, and therefore and she marginalizes herself. 248 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 3: What I was talking about at the beginning of this 249 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: conversation about narrowing your audience and not gaining followers. I 250 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 3: have no worries about Candace Owens. She's only talking to 251 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: this bizarre echo chamber and maybe a lot of bots 252 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 3: boosting her numbers. I'm not worried about her in the slightest. 253 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 3: Megan Kelly is just is really just a floating grifter. 254 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: She's just someone who goes she sees. Here's an interesting 255 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 3: experiment I did. Matt Gates, the former congressman in the 256 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: last year or so, suddenly made a sharp turn against Israel, 257 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: and it came out of nowhere because he was never 258 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 3: pro or anti or anything. He never expressed opinions about 259 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 3: Israel one way or the other. If he did, they 260 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 3: were kind of pro Israel. And then he suddenly pivots 261 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 3: hard against Israel. So I went to his Twitter feed 262 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: and I looked at all the posts that he put up, 263 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: and I just simply looked at the engagement numbers on 264 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: about one hundred posts. I spent a couple hours on it. 265 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: Every post that was anti Israel or implying something about 266 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: the Jews had massive engagement, and every other topic that 267 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: he tweeted about a fraction. And I said to myself, 268 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 3: it's very simple. There is good money to be made 269 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: online by attacking Israel and by implying that you're edgy 270 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: and you know, and that you're noticing the Jews. So 271 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: I don't take a lot of this stuff seriously. I 272 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: took it more seriously before I went to America Fest. 273 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: Actually I go every year to TPUSA Amfest. That's where 274 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: I first met Charlie years ago. And at this year's Amfest, 275 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: I was expecting a more hostile environment because of all 276 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: this stuff going on. And what I found was actually 277 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: that the people I met, the crowd was actually quite 278 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: you know, on board with being not only pro Israel, 279 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: but pro Western civilization. When Tucker Carlson stood on that 280 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: stage at amphest this past December and rebuked the audience 281 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 3: for criticizing Islam, the crowd was not with him. Yeah, 282 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: so much so that at Amfest there were about forty 283 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: to fifty thousand people there. They do polling, and it's 284 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: pretty significant polling. The I mean they're polling tens of 285 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: thousands of people, and one of the pole questions done 286 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: at amphest this year was a multiple choice question asking 287 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: what you believe is the greatest threat to America. And 288 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: there was a whole bunch of things on the list, 289 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 3: the Chinese Communist Party, immigration, the national debt, you know, 290 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: the whole litany of threats. The number one threat chosen 291 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: by the people at Amfest this year was Islam. Yeah, 292 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 3: and so think about the disconnect between where Tucker is 293 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: and where the crowd is. And when the participants were 294 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: polled about their view of the US Israel relationship, over 295 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 3: eighty percent said that they still consider Israel either the 296 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: number one ally or an ally of the United States. So, 297 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: you know we're talking about I think we have to remember, Aaron, 298 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: that online world is not necessarily reality. 299 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: I think that's a very good reminder. 300 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: And you can get stuck in this echo chain but 301 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: country and you can think this is a bigger deal 302 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: than it is. And really, mister and missus Smith out 303 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: there couldn't give a tinker's costs about the stuff that's 304 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: swirling in this kind of cesspit lasting on this the 305 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: money aspect, the seven thousand dollars, have you ever received 306 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: a payment of seven thousand dollars. 307 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: And if you have, then who do you invoice? 308 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 3: I mean, it'll be such a stupid investment anyway of money. No, 309 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 3: there's no seven thousand. There's no seven thousand dollars. 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They're 342 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: not going to keep playing this same game with Hesbler, 343 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: are they. 344 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: It's kind of now or never, oh. 345 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 3: For sure, And there's a lot more at stake than 346 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 3: even Oh we look, Israel needs to protect its security, 347 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: but let's think about the country of Lebanon. Right now, 348 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: the way things are in the Middle East, you have 349 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: these you have these blocks that are forming. The Iranian 350 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: octopus is being dismantled and is almost is almost gone. 351 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: And you have the Turks and the Qataris who are 352 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: sort of more more Muslim brotherhood jihadist oriented, and you 353 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: know Syrias within the Turkish orbit. And you have the 354 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: Egyptians who are kind of playing both sides, and the 355 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 3: Saudis who are kind of also hedging and playing both sides. 356 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: And then you have the Amidis and the other Abraham 357 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 3: Accords countries that are that are pushing things in a 358 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 3: more moderate direction, and Jordan is kind of with them, 359 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: and Lebanon is strangled because the Lebanese people has a, 360 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: has a large Christian minority, has a lot of moderate Muslims, 361 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 3: it has it has Kurds, and then it's got these 362 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 3: sites who are who are supportive of Libellah, which is Iran. 363 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: Now this is a very important distinction for your audience. 364 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 3: Iran is Chrisbela is not a proxy of Iran. And 365 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: let me explain what I mean. The Hutis and Rahmas 366 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: are proxies of Iran. They are independent organizations. They get 367 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 3: funding from Iran, they get arms from Iran, and they 368 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: they can take direction from them. But they're not owned, 369 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: they're not they're not franchises of Iran. Chrisbela is Iran. 370 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 3: When Hassan Nostralla was killed, Naim Kassem, his successor, was 371 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 3: appointed in Tehran. Chrisbela is Iran. When the beeper attack happened, 372 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: one of the beepers that exploded was on the body 373 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 3: of the ambassador, the Iranian ambassador in Lebanon's you understand 374 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: Chrisbela is Iran. 375 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is That is key, and that point is 376 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 2: never made. 377 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 3: It's it's It's also important for another political reason. Israel 378 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: gets accused all the time of occupation. You want to 379 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: talk about occupation in the Middle East. Lebanon has been 380 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 3: Iranian occupied territory for for a few decades. Risbela became 381 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: Risbela became stronger than the Lebanese army, and it asserted 382 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: itself in that way and basically became It's almost like 383 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: a mafia boss taking over a neighborhood where Risbela basically 384 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: controlled Lebanon for decades. So getting Risbela out of Lebanon 385 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: doesn't just help Israeli security and we no longer have 386 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: that threat on our northern border, but it opens up 387 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 3: Lebanon to actually take a deep breath and look at 388 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 3: the Middle East, and they'll never pose a threat to Israel. 389 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 3: They'll become what they were before before nineteen eighty two, 390 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 3: before the first Lebanon War that Israel had with the 391 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 3: PLO up there, which led ultimately to all that destruction. 392 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: Lebanon was Beirut was known as the Paris of the 393 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 3: Middle East, and Lebanon was a fairly cosmopolitan, fairly pro 394 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 3: western Arab nation. They could go back to being that, 395 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 3: and then what you then have is an expanding moderation 396 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 3: in the Middle East, which is really the battle that's 397 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: going on now. And that's where you see like the 398 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 3: Saudis are sort of hedging. Are they with the Amadis 399 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: and the Israelis and the Americans? Are they with the 400 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 3: Kataris and the Turks? Right this is in the big picture. 401 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: This is the big story of what's happening right now 402 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: in the Middle East, and Lebanon can be freed of that. 403 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: And that's why one of the most fascinating things about 404 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: this offensive right now against Lisbela is that you don't 405 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 3: see the Lebanese government even giving the lip service to 406 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: criticizing Israel for bombing in the past, even though Lebanon 407 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: brought even though Hisbela brought the bombing on Lebanon, they 408 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 3: would always, in a perfunctory way, condemn Israel for bombing them. 409 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: They're not anymore. They know that they were impotent about 410 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 3: getting rid of Hisbela, and they're so happy behind closed doors. 411 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 3: The Lebanese leadership is thrilled that Israel is finally dealing 412 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 3: with it, and I agree with you. There's nothing less 413 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: of completely rooting them out, and there's no reason not 414 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 3: to at this point. We got to get rid of them. 415 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: Spot on, and the government was even critical publicly of Hebela, 416 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: and Babe said, it's your job to cain these guys. 417 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: If you're not going to keep us safe from them 418 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: and stop them from, you know, trying to kill our people, 419 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: we're going to have to do it. 420 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: And I think the Lebanese government is. 421 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: Like great, great, tell me, Katar, were you as surprised 422 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: as the Qataris were when the Hamas leaders that they 423 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: have safe harbored since October seven refused to condemn the 424 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: Islamic regimes terrorism And who would have thought, Rabbi that 425 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: the Hamas leaders in Qatar were fans of terror. But 426 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: they've just discovered this what happens to Qatar and all this. 427 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,880 Speaker 1: I note another point they made a couple of hours 428 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: ago was that they still think that negotiating is the 429 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: best option. 430 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: They're annoyed. 431 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 3: That's actually very important, That's actually very important on the negotiations. 432 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: Let's start there, because that's the more important point when 433 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: we look down range at how everyone wants this current 434 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: war to turn out se because right now you have 435 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: you have a number of different parties involved. You have 436 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: the Americans in the Israelis, who up until this point 437 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: in the war have shared gold and therefore they're in 438 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 3: lockstep and their arm and arm and they're doing everything together. 439 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that their interests are identical. And there 440 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 3: could come a moment. I'm going to get back to 441 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 3: Qatar in a second, but there's not only can come 442 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: a moment I'm expecting downrange, whether it's days or weeks 443 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: from now, there will come a moment where the Americans 444 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: are satisfied and say we're done. We've accomplished our goals, 445 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 3: but the Israelis are not necessarily and then what happens. 446 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 3: Does the war continue, does it not continue? What does 447 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: Israel do? By the same token, the Gulf States and 448 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: the Saudis, they also have their desired outcome here and 449 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: their desired outcome, I believe, and this is my conjecture. 450 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: But everything that they're saying and doing only supports this, 451 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: and I've been saying it since before the war broke out. 452 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: What they want is a weakened and battered Iranian regime, 453 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: but they do not want the regime to completely be replaced. 454 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: They don't want it to actually fall. Would be the 455 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: worst thing in the world for the Saudis, the Kataris, 456 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: and even our friends the Amoradis. If the Iranian regime 457 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 3: actually fell, if the rainbows and unicorns utopia that we're 458 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 3: all hoping for happens in Iran and it becomes this 459 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: pro western Persian democracy with a flourishing church, and it's 460 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 3: the biggest losers in that will be the Saudis, the Emordis, 461 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: the Qataris, all of them, because they will become strategically 462 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: less important because a massive oil producing nation with a 463 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 3: huge population called Iran will suddenly be a pro Western 464 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: center in the Middle East, and they become less strategically valuable. 465 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 3: And also the last thing they want on their borders. 466 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 3: Let's remember, as nice as the Amordis and the Bahrainis are, 467 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: these are still despotic dictatorships. They're not democracies, and they're 468 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: Muslim countries. The last thing they want is a flourishing, 469 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: multicultural democracy on their borders. In the Middle East. It 470 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 3: threatens in a number of ways. So what do they want. 471 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: They also hate the Iranians, they hate the Mullahs. They 472 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: so I believe that they want a weakened and inept 473 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: but intact Iranian Islamic regime. That's what I believe they want. 474 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: And that's what and what confirms this to me is 475 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: that even after the opening of the war, where we 476 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: found out that the Saudis were actually pushing for strikes, 477 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: and they all seem to be like, all right, we're 478 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: also against the Iranians. But in the last two or 479 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 3: three days, all of them, the Saudis, the Kataris, the Amaradis, 480 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: they've all been talking now about about moving to a 481 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 3: ceasefire and coming to negotiations. And because that's a way 482 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: to end it prematurely before the regime falls. They don't 483 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: want the regime to fall. That's what I believe we 484 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: should be looking for downrange. 485 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 2: It's brilliant. 486 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: And you look at Katar in particular, this whole. I 487 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: think it was probably on CNN where they were referred 488 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: to as you know, the peacemakers. 489 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 2: I mean, insane, but you're spot on in regards. 490 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: So you look at the the position they hold, even 491 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, within the US administration and people surrounding it, 492 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: very important people who they've got a real role to play, 493 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of money changing hands, and they've 494 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: built themselves. 495 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: You know, you're right. 496 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: Without deals to be done, without terrorists, without hostages, without 497 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: all of that, I mean insignificant in a lot of ways. 498 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: The other key point, and I love this, and you're 499 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: so much more across this space than I am. 500 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: A millionfold. 501 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: But I made the exact point that you did regarding 502 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: the objectives of America and Israel, and I. 503 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 2: Said, right now, very aligned. 504 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: But I suspect there will be come a time where 505 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: America has achieved its objectives. It's not popular domestically, they 506 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: will say we're done and Israel will say, well, we're 507 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: not done with HESBII yet, or we're not done with 508 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: this part, and that'll be a fascinating aspect as well. 509 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: How do you see it playing out? General Jack Keane 510 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: was on Fox a little while ago and you, by 511 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: the way, brilliant on Fox Primetime, very impressive. Made the 512 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: point he said, maybe another week or two we see 513 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: Hegseeth has just sat down for a sixty minute interview 514 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: and he said, we've learned the lessons of Iraq and 515 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: Afghanistan we hear on Fox and obviously a lot of 516 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: them are very connected. We can't let that battle creep 517 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: get in. Do you see it as as more of 518 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: a short term thing and define that. I know what's 519 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: a piece of stream. 520 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: Well, we know what Trump wants because finally a couple 521 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: of days ago he revealed what he wants in terms 522 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 3: of outcomes. He was when he was sitting with the 523 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: Chancellor Mertz in the Oval office the other day and 524 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: he had a sort of ad hoc press a veil there. 525 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 3: He was asked about regime change and his answer was 526 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 3: it was very trumpy an answer. He didn't answer the 527 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 3: question directly. He just started sounding like he's rambling, but 528 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 3: he's not. And he talked about the ideal of Venezuela. 529 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: He praised the Venezuela situation and said, look what we 530 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: did there, and he said something very interesting. He said, look, 531 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: we kept the government intact. They removed Maduro and started 532 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 3: working with Delsi Rodriguez, who was Maduro's number two. And 533 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: what that does. And I'm not saying this as a criticism. 534 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 3: There's pros and cons to this. Although it throws the 535 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: Venezuelan people under the bus, it seems, at least in 536 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: the short term. It certainly doesn't embrace Maria Karina Machado, 537 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: who won that election by a landslide. It chooses stability 538 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: over democracy, and there something to be said for that, 539 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 3: because if you say we're going to remove all the 540 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: criminals and then you end up with instability. So he 541 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: compared Venezuela to Iraq, where in Iraq when the Saddam 542 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: Mussein regime fell, they went in and they cleared everyone out, 543 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: they fired everybody. But that, of course leads to all 544 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 3: kinds of chaos, and Isis grows out of that. So 545 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 3: Trump was touting the Venezuelan model as a way of 546 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 3: keeping things stable. Because you keep all the technocrats and 547 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: bureaucrats in place, you keep the structure in place, everything 548 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 3: continues to run. You decapitate it and you move in 549 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: and you work with those top people and you hold 550 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: a gun to their head and get them to behave 551 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 3: and that way you Now the question is what you 552 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: do down the road if Venezuela doesn't, at some point 553 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 3: under American under American supervision, go to an actual democratic election, 554 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: and the Americans long term keep working with these Marxist 555 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: criminals who were who were basically the Maduro regime, criminals, 556 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: mobsters who are running Venezuela, which is what the Americans 557 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: are doing now. If that's what happens long term, then 558 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: the Venezuelan people are no freer than they were under Maduro. 559 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe a little freer. But Trump wants the same thing. 560 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 3: In Iran, it's much cleaner. If you say we're going 561 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 3: to purge everyone, then what happens all the people in power, 562 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: all the IRGC people are going to fight to the end. 563 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: They're not. But if you say to them, listen, if 564 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 3: you cooperate with us, you know everything will be fine. 565 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 3: And then you and you and you put some stability 566 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: in there, that doesn't mean it moves to a democracy. 567 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: The Americans want that, the Israelis might not be as 568 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: satisfied with it. So, you know, but I can see 569 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 3: Israeil suddenly going. You know, right now, Israel's the golden boy. 570 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: They're America's sidekick, and no one's criticizing them, and nobody's 571 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 3: criticizing Israel because indirectly they'd be criticizing Trump. But what 572 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: happens when America and the Saudis and the Amorades and 573 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: the Katari say, okay, we're done, we're negotiating with these 574 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: guys and they work with the reformers in the regime 575 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 3: in Iran, and Israel says no, no, no, no, no, 576 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 3: this is not this is not good enough for us. 577 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: Then suddenly Israel can become isolated like that. 578 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, everything you say is brilliant. Do 579 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: you think it makes a difference? And the point of 580 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: difference from Venezuela to hear that Trump has been very 581 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: public multiple times in his desire to help the Iranian people. 582 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: Help is on its way. I am going to give 583 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: you the opportunity. It's now on you to take back 584 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: your country. Take back your government. That would be a 585 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: point where people could legitimately go at him for if 586 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: he pulled out, and that wasn't at least an opportunity 587 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: for them. But I am also acutely aware of the 588 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: fact that just because you're some bad guys, it doesn't 589 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: mean that everyone else there is good. That the ninety 590 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: million people are amazing. I know the vast majority doesn't 591 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: support the current regime, but there's other evil. 592 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: People who are looking for a chance as well. Isn't 593 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: there to move in? It's complex? 594 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, well this is Trump's blind spot. Trump's blind spot 595 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: with everything he does in the Middle East is an 596 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: assumption that these people have the same motivations that he does, 597 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 3: or that most Western people do, and that is that, 598 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, really, in the end of the day, everyone 599 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 3: just wants money in power, and it's not necessarily true. 600 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: These are ideological people and it's a mistake Westerners have 601 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: been making forever. And that's why we think that bringing. 602 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: You know, like when Jared Kushner, you know, shows a 603 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: you know, pictures of what Gaza could look like and 604 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: it looks kind of like Boca Raton, Florida, you know, 605 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 3: and you say, like, oh, we're gonna we're gonna give 606 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: them a better life. And then you say, wait a second, 607 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: These same people in Gaza still support Hamas even though 608 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: they're living in you know, in puddles and tents, you know. 609 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 3: So we think that economics matters more to people. So 610 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: the problem with keeping the Iranian regime intact the way 611 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: Trump wants to do and saying don't worry, We'll pay 612 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: them off and will make them all rich and everyone 613 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 3: will be happy, is that there's still Sheeite ideologues. So no, 614 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: there's a lot of ways this can go sideways, but 615 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: one thing we have to keep in mind. One thing 616 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: we have to keep in mind. I have a column 617 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 3: coming out soon in the Jerusalem Post about the different 618 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 3: options for regime change and how they're all not really good. 619 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: I meaning, this can go sideways in many different ways. 620 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: But we have to keep in mind that no matter 621 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: what happens in Iran, even if it gets chaotic, even 622 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: if there's if it turns into ethnic violence between different groups, 623 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: and the Kurds are carving out their piece and the 624 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: mek Is carving out their piece, and even if it 625 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: takes a while to stabilize, it is not as bad 626 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 3: as the regime we had for forty seven years, It's 627 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: not as bad. No matter what outcome is, none of 628 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: it will be as bad as that the havoc that 629 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 3: that regime caused worldwide. And people don't talk enough about 630 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,959 Speaker 3: the fact that Pizbola has basis of operation, training bases 631 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: and more in Venezuela, in Paraguay, all over South America. 632 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 3: Krisbola is a global organization, and the drug trafficking and 633 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 3: the human trafficking and everything that they've been doing worldwide. 634 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 3: The fact that that the engine of that whole network 635 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 3: is being dismantled right now. Even if Iran turns into 636 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 3: a chaotic place, which is very sad, but you know what, 637 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 3: that's the reality. If a government does evil things, they 638 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: invite destruction on their people, and that is a sad 639 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 3: fact of life. You know, in Nazi Germany they learned that. 640 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 3: In Imperial Japan they learned that, and they're learning it 641 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: in Iran. I feel bad for the Iranian people, but 642 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: that's what happens. But none of it, no outcome of 643 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 3: this war is as bad as the regime itself that 644 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: we've been dealing with for the last forty seven years. 645 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 3: Especially since the end of the Iran Iraq War. You know, 646 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 3: for the first while, when they had that ten year 647 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 3: or eleven year war with Iraq, they kind of kept 648 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 3: each other busy and they weren't as much of a threat. 649 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: The real rising threat of Iran with the proxies and 650 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 3: the ballistic missiles and then ultimately the drive to nuclear 651 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 3: all starts after the Iran Iraq war. So if they 652 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 3: end up getting distracted now with an internescent battles to 653 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 3: see who gets to control the carcass of the Iranian 654 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: regime afterwards, I feel bad for them, but it's still 655 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: better than this regime. 656 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: I will wrap up because I've taken so much of 657 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: your time, and I'm very grateful. What percentage chance do 658 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: you give of a Rezapolavi going into transition and the 659 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: Iranian people democratically electing the next leader. 660 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 3: It depends on a few things. 661 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:35,839 Speaker 4: Well. 662 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 3: First of all, how popular Rezapolavi actually is is a 663 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 3: matter of dispute, and unfortunately, I'm finding it very difficult, 664 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: and I'm having conversations with some of the people on 665 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 3: both sides of it. I'm having a very difficult time 666 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: discerning the reality because it seems that everyone is so 667 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 3: politically motivated. The pro Polavi people are have an interest 668 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 3: in saying he's more popular than maybe he is, and 669 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 3: the anti people the opposite. So it's very hard to 670 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 3: get a sense of what's real. I mean, there are 671 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: indications that there's that that his name carries a lot 672 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 3: of weight and still is very popular. We saw that 673 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: with the protests and the response to him. But others say, no, 674 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 3: he doesn't you know, but he's been away for four 675 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,959 Speaker 3: and a half decades and he doesn't really know the 676 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 3: lay of the land. There's a lot of arguments foreign against. 677 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: It's very hard to discern. I think a lot of 678 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 3: it will have to do with how active a role 679 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 3: do the Americans take in what goes on afterwards, because 680 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: if they really take a hands off approach and say, 681 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 3: you know, you guys sort it out, then I don't 682 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 3: think Paul Avi has a chance because there's all these 683 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: other militias, and there's all these entrenched bureaucrats who we're 684 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 3: going to try to have a say, and there's there's 685 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 3: a whole there's a whole bureaucracy. Aaron. We have to remember, 686 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 3: Iran is not Iraq, Syria or Libya. Those places are 687 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 3: we're tiny little countries where the where the dictatorship was 688 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 3: basically a mafia family. In other words, bashar Asa gets 689 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 3: on a plane and flies to us, that's the end 690 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 3: of the Syrian regime. Doesn't work that way in Iran. 691 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 3: The IRGC is around one hundred and eighty one hundred 692 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 3: and ninety thousand men, and that's just the IRGC. All 693 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 3: the bureaucrats in the system are not technically IRGC, but 694 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 3: they are, and then you have their families. So think 695 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 3: of it more as a political party, an elite class 696 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: of probably between seven hundred and fifty thousand and a 697 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 3: million people that oppresses the rest of the population. It's 698 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 3: much more similar to the Chinese Communist Party than it 699 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: is to a little despotic dictatorship like Libya or Syria. 700 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 3: So removing the regime is not such a simple matter 701 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 3: final thing. 702 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: And I don't want to put you on the spot here, 703 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: but Marco Rubio or jd Vance post president trumps second term. 704 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: Well, I just think that when Marco Rubio stood up 705 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 3: to the mic the other day and spoke in Spanish, 706 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 3: he reminded everyone that the GOP that is right now 707 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 3: bleeding minorities is going to be saved by Marco Rubio, 708 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 3: because if he's the presidential candidate, he will sweep across Texas, Nevada, 709 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 3: New Mexico, Arizona, southern California, and he'll speak Spanish and 710 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 3: he'll sweep everyone off their feet. JD. Vance, I just 711 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 3: you know, without saying what I like or dislike, I 712 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 3: don't think Jadvance has a chance of winning a presidential election. 713 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: Rabbi, thank you so much for your time. 714 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: You are I honestly have learnt so much just in 715 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: this may I can't you say she's put makeup all 716 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: over her face? 717 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 2: My Lord, I've learned so much in this conversation. I'll 718 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 2: get my hair. I don't let it go on cameras, 719 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 2: so let my editor to cover this. I've learnt so much. 720 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: You are utterly brilliant, and I now see why Charlie 721 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: turned to you frequently for your brilliance. 722 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 2: And I will now look. 723 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,760 Speaker 1: To turn to you maybe twice a week instead of daily, 724 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: but I'd love you. You'll rue the day you said 725 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: yes to this interview. I'm so grateful, Thank you so 726 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 1: much for your time. 727 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 3: Thank you. Eron God bless. 728 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for joining me 729 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: here on Aaron Mullincher. 730 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 2: He was absolutely brilliant. 731 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: I've told him I will not annoy him as much 732 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: as maybe Charlie Kirk used to. They were daily daily, 733 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: but maybe twice a week now if he'll have me. 734 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: He's utterly brilliant. 735 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: Wanted to bring you just a little bit of feedback 736 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: from the interview we did with the Iranian man here 737 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: in Australia who ran after the bus of the Iranian 738 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: women's football team and was so emotional. He went to 739 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: the police session afterwards, he went to their hotel, and 740 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: I want to bring you some of your feedback because 741 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: you guys were as emotional as I was and so 742 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: blown away by this. 743 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 2: Sky says. 744 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: My heart goes out to all these girls and their 745 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: families and that's a big point as well, their families 746 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: back home who will suffer as a consequence of what 747 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: is going on. 748 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: I mean they're already suffering. 749 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: This video means so much, says Soldier forty six. 750 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 2: Doctor Reid says, your stalwart. 751 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: Support for Iranian Australian human rights his genuine love and concern. 752 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Dane says, finally someone speaking up about this horror. 753 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: Thank you, Aaron. We have to stop those girls being 754 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 2: sent back. I'm horrified. Thank you for being a voice. 755 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 2: Gaynor says Mark. 756 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: We love you and your passion towards the people of 757 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: arm Thank you so much. These women are amazing. So 758 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: much incredible feedback, so much incredible feedback. A couple of 759 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: people are asking for the video of them not singing 760 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: the anthem. Copyright issues. We can't because it was Asian cup. 761 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: We actually can't play that for you, but google it 762 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: you'll see it straight away, Jordanna says, praying for the 763 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: safety of these girls. Mickey from Albano says, well, he, 764 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of a little bit backhanded, but 765 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: I love you. 766 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 2: Mickey. 767 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 1: You're an impressive person with both intelligence and beauty. Your 768 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: recent more modest look highlights your overall value and no 769 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: longer distracts from it. Thank you for your content and 770 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: the presentation of that content. May God continue to bless you. 771 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: If you haven't already, I bet you will find a 772 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: high value man who fits your convictions and appraises you 773 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 1: for who you are. Good luck in all your future efforts. 774 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to listen to your views and concerns. Micky, 775 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate that so much, and maybe I have become 776 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more conservative with age, or maybe tomorrow 777 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: I'll dress like a two bit ho. 778 00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it could go either way, just joking. 779 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I'm sure, as I've told you before, 780 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: my mother feels the same. 781 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 2: She much prefers a higher neckline. I get it. I 782 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: love you all, We'll see you tomorrow.