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Speaker 2: It's Scott Jennings.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's Monday, December the twenty second. We've reached Christmas week.

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Speaker 3: Tevy Troy is coming by to discuss his peace in

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Speaker 3: the Washington Examiner on prominent conservatives who passed away this year.

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Speaker 3: We'll get Tevy's perspective on that. Twenty three minutes past

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Speaker 3: the hour, Patrick Hedger from net Choices here we'll talk

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Speaker 3: AI and data centers and other hot topics from the

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Speaker 3: world of technology. But first let's do the news. President

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Speaker 3: Trump planning a late afternoon announcement with the Secretary of

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Speaker 3: the Navy today. This has to do with shipbuilding, we

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Speaker 3: are told. Now you might remember the other day we

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Speaker 3: had Senator Todd Young of Indiana on the show. Here

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Speaker 3: he is the sentence expert on this very topic. So

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Speaker 3: we'll see what the Commander in chief has to say today.

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Speaker 3: Just a few days ago he signed into law the

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Speaker 3: annual Defense Bill, nine hundred billion dollar defense bill, which

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Speaker 3: does have major ship building provisions. So watch this space

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Speaker 3: to see what President Trump says about ship building this afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Energy News Trump today canceling major offshore wind projects. Man

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Speaker 3: does he hate the windmills. Here's Interior Secretary Doug Bergham

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Speaker 3: on Fox News this morning.

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Speaker 4: Today, we're sending notifications to the five large offshore win

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Speaker 4: projects that are under construction that they're going to be

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Speaker 4: their leases will be suspended due to national security concerns.

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Speaker 4: During this time of suspension, we'll work with the companies

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Speaker 4: to try to find a mitigation. But we've completed the

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Speaker 4: work the President Trump has asked us to do. The

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Speaker 4: Department of War has come back conclusively that the issues

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Speaker 4: related to these large offshore wind programs create radar interference

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Speaker 4: that creates a genuine risk for the US, particularly related

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Speaker 3: Now, the White House notes that one, just one natural

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Speaker 3: gas pipeline could produce the same amount of energy as

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Speaker 3: these five win projects they are canceling today. If you're

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Speaker 3: driving for Christmas, well, in most places, you'll paying less

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Speaker 3: for gas way less. In forty states, the average gas

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Speaker 3: least twelve states. More illegal immigration mayhem, and there is

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Speaker 3: outrage in Charlotte, North Carolina for good reason. A fifteen

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Speaker 3: Here's how the Queen City News and Charlotte called it.

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Speaker 5: Fifteen year old girl was involved in a hit and

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Speaker 5: the bike rider, fifteen year old Amber Paris, was taken

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Speaker 5: The driver fled the scene. The next day, officers arrested

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Speaker 5: forty year old Julio Showcop Vicente Charts with felony hit

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Speaker 3: So an illegal alien kills a teenager in November and

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Speaker 3: bond just a couple of weeks later in December. What

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Speaker 3: signs in the fight against illegal immigration. Today, the federal

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Speaker 3: government is encouraging people to self deport. Homeland Security Secretary

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Speaker 2: Do so voluntarily. Want to go home now, to your country,

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Speaker 2: If you're in this United States of America illegally. We

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Speaker 3: Self deportations actually an area where the Trump administration has

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Speaker 3: had a high level of success. Nearly two million illegal

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Speaker 3: Vice President JD. Vance made mention of the administration's overall

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Speaker 6: In just a year, we ended Joe Biden Kamala Harris's

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Speaker 6: at the southern border. More than two point five million

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Speaker 3: And here's Trump's borders are Tom Homan, who says we

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the most secure border in the history of this nation,

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Speaker 8: I just came back. I just did a border review

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Speaker 3: And it seems to me the story here is that

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Speaker 3: of local officials, often Democrats, prosecutors, judges, local people who

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Speaker 3: you got to hold your local elected officials accountable. If

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Speaker 3: the purification of college campuses continues. According to a recent

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Speaker 3: Monday, December the twenty second Scott Jennings Common Sense for

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Speaker 3: the American people here on the Salem Radio Network. Joining

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Speaker 3: me today an old friend of mine, Teviy Troy, is

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Speaker 3: senior fellow at the Ronald Reagan Institute. He's a senior

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Speaker 3: He does this for the Washington Examiner, and his latest

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Speaker 3: annual survey of Conservatives we Lost is out. Tevy, Welcome

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Speaker 9: Scott, thanks for having me. You've long been my favorite pundit.

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Speaker 9: Now I'm glad you're America's favorite did as well.

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Speaker 3: of course was Vice President Dick Cheney. Probably the most

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Speaker 7: world in information technology. The Internet itself has been built

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Speaker 7: by Americans and designed by American and that has been

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Speaker 7: huge not only for American culture exporting American culture, but

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Speaker 7: also for our economic prosperity as well. And we have

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Speaker 7: to put ourselves in the same position with AI. The

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Speaker 3: All right. So earlier this month, President Trump signed an

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Speaker 3: executive order that would preempt overly burdensome state rules for

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Speaker 3: artificial intelligence, as Congress is now working through a nationwide

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Speaker 3: rule book if you will, to govern AI technology. Did

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Speaker 3: you view the President's executive order as a positive development

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Speaker 3: in this overall race to defeat China to control AI.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Absolutely. I think this is one of the areas

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Speaker 7: where President Trump is the strongest. He absolutely understands what's

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Speaker 7: that stake here, and he understands what would undermine America's

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Speaker 7: position in the AI race, and that would be a

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Speaker 7: patchwork of potentially fifty different state laws, all shaped by

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Speaker 7: different values and different priorities that may end up even

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Speaker 7: conflicting with one another, being imposed on a fledgling sector

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Speaker 7: like AI. And you know, forget the big companies for

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Speaker 7: comply with fifty different regulatory regimes. And on top of that,

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Speaker 7: when you have fifty different regulatory regimes, you open the

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Speaker 7: door for a lot of bureaucratic delays and abuse. Right,

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Speaker 7: we don't want bureaucrats ultimately designing the technology or getting

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Speaker 7: to put their thumb on the scale of the information

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Speaker 7: that the technology provides us. We need to be far

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Speaker 7: more focused on outcomes and far more focused on innovation

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Speaker 3: All right, I want to ask you about data centers.

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Speaker 3: So we have this need for data centers. We have

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Speaker 3: to build more. These are the places where the computing happens.

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Speaker 3: When you type something into AI and you want an answer,

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Speaker 3: we need data centers to process that. There have been

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Speaker 3: places in the United States and a lot of places

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Speaker 3: where folks at the local level have rejected data centers.

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Speaker 3: Where someone says I want to build a data center

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Speaker 3: and people come and defeated at the local level. A.

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Speaker 3: Are we moving quickly enough on building data centers? Do

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Speaker 3: we have enough data center capacity? Are we on the

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Speaker 3: right trajectory? And B what would you say to people

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Speaker 3: at the local level who've rejected one of these things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I hear all kinds of reasons why people

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Speaker 3: say they don't want them in their community. But let's

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Speaker 3: talk about this issue of data centers. Do we have enough?

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Speaker 3: Why are people rejecting them? And what kind of conversation

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so we need to build a new hyperscaleed data

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Speaker 7: center at a pretty regular clip. We need new data

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Speaker 7: centers at a pace of about one a week to

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Speaker 7: meet current demand. And this is this is about serving

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Speaker 7: consumer demand, not just for AI queries, but for all

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Speaker 7: of the data that's on your phone, your photos, your videos,

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Speaker 7: your health records, potentially all of that needs to be

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Speaker 7: stored in a secured data center. And this so this

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Speaker 7: is about meeting consumer demand. So I think that's something

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Speaker 7: that people really need to understand. And I fear what's

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Speaker 7: happening around data centers right now is very similar to

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Speaker 7: what we saw around fracking. There was a lot of

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Speaker 7: justifiable concerns, but ultimately there was a lot of hysteria

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Speaker 7: and misinformation out there as well, particularly in the case

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Speaker 7: of data centers around energy and water use. AI is

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Speaker 7: going to allow us to use energy and water more efficiently,

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Speaker 7: and so the net effect of data centers and AI

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Speaker 7: is going to be positive for US resources. So that

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Speaker 7: is something that I think people need to understand. But again,

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Speaker 7: think about the alternatives. Right It's not a world where

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Speaker 7: we have no data centers or no data processing. Data

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Speaker 7: centers are the way that we do this the most efficiently,

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Speaker 7: versus having a lot more small data centers at every

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Speaker 7: single hospital, school, and office building.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Heger is the director of Policy at net Choice. Patrick,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to leave you with one final question. Is

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Speaker 3: the race to win AI and to win this battle

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Speaker 3: against China for AI dominance in the world. Is this

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Speaker 3: our new space race? Is this the new Cold War?

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Speaker 3: Is it that important?

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Speaker 7: Yes? I think it's that important. This technology. Unlike the

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Speaker 7: space race, where you did have a lot of technological

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Speaker 7: technology that was developed during the Space Race. AI is

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Speaker 7: that times a thousand, because this is a technology that

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Speaker 7: can be used in literally everything. And so what do

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Speaker 7: we want. Do we want a future where that is

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Speaker 7: controlled ultimately by the Chinese and they get all of

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Speaker 7: the economic and cultural benefit of that, or do we

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Speaker 7: want that to reflect what has happened in the United

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Speaker 7: States and the Internet age, where again the global Internet

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Speaker 7: is primarily built and shaped by Americans. That's what that take.

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Speaker 3: That's Patrick heager well said, my friend, thanks for coming by.

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Speaker 3: We'll check in with you on these issues from time

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Speaker 3: to time. Patrick Hedger from net Choice our special conversation today.

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Speaker 3: Before we go to break, I want to say a

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Speaker 3: special thank you from our friends at pure Talk Wireless.

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Speaker 3: They had a big year, record breaking year at pure Talk.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is my wireless company. And because they

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Speaker 3: And by the way, I'm hearing from people who have

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Speaker 3: I'm not surprised they had a huge year anyway. This

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Speaker 3: Talk America's wireless company. When we come back, more on

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Speaker 3: this issue with the DC police chief and cooking the

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Speaker 3: books on crime stats. Scott Jennings here on Salem Radio Network.

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Speaker 6: It's enough walking then went to day.

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Speaker 1: Fighting the left with the best weapon we have, common sense,

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Speaker 1: is the Scott Jenning Show.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you why big week here on the Scotch

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Speaker 3: Jenny Show. It's Christmas and back by popular demand. You

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Speaker 3: know we did this at Thanksgiving. I brought my friends

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Speaker 3: Joe Arnold, Jared Crawford, and Mary Catherine Hamm together at

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Speaker 3: Thanksgiving for the Thanksgiving Draft, where we each drafted something

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Speaker 3: And then we asked AI we were just talking about

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Speaker 3: to grade our draft, to grade our teams. Well, we

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Speaker 3: did it again for Christmas. It's going to be on

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Speaker 3: Christmas Eve this week. You don't want to miss the

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Speaker 3: the people we're bringing together. If your fantasy football team

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Speaker 3: is cooked and you still want to you still want

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Speaker 3: to relive some draft activity, the Christmas Draft on Christmas

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Speaker 3: Eve is for you. Put this one, by the way

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Speaker 3: in the you hate to see it file, new clip

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Speaker 3: coming across to me from See It in which, by

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Speaker 3: the way, I'm headed over this afternoon. I'll be on

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Speaker 3: it for Eastern with Casey Hunt on the Arena and

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Speaker 3: then again tonight ten o'clock Eastern on Newsnight with Abbey Phillip.

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Speaker 3: But this clip coming across headline, they're attacking their own

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Speaker 3: DC Democrats, irked by surge of left wing challengers with

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Speaker 3: of socialists, upstarts are primary ing them, and they're races

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Speaker 3: around the country. You hate to see it. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to bring you this last week. You know,

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Speaker 3: we had Jamie com On, chairman of the House Oversight Committee.

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Speaker 3: It's got a big report about how the police department

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Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. Was cooking the books on crime stats.

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Speaker 3: They were misclassifying and underclassifying violent crime to make it

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Speaker 3: With the knowledge that Comer's report was about to come out,

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Speaker 3: the chief of police in Washington, d C. Resigned. Her

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Speaker 3: Hang on, Hollywood, Sean, keep in mind, this is the

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Speaker 10: Hit it, think it, but it's okay. So I'm going

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Speaker 6: When I say this to my haters, few.

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Speaker 8: Do.

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Speaker 7: It's not a drop to Mike moment watched me in

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Speaker 7: this space.

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Speaker 2: I forgive you.

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Speaker 5: I forgive you.

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Speaker 10: Because the Bible makes it very clearly when Jesus was

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Speaker 10: hanging on the cross, when he said to his Father,

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Speaker 10: even in the pit of agony and defeat, he said, Father.

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Speaker 3: Forgive them, for they know not what they do. By

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Speaker 3: bless you and.

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Speaker 10: God to you, and has been my pleasure the District

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Speaker 3: Okay, that is the person who has been running the

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Speaker 3: who Chairman Comer says, has been manipulating crime data to

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Speaker 3: maintain the appearance of low crime in your nation's capital.

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Speaker 3: Upon resigning, she said f you to her detractors and

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Speaker 3: then compared herself to Jesus hanging on the cross. I

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Speaker 3: having manipulated any statistics that he was tracking. It's amazing

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Speaker 3: when people get caught doing stuff. It happens all the time,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it. People get caught doing stuff they shouldn't be doing.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is criminal here, Maybe it is, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it should be. Actually, public officials manipulating data,

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Speaker 3: misleading taxpayers, misleading citizens. But I don't know if it's

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Speaker 3: criminal or not. You shouldn't be doing it. And by

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Speaker 3: she obviously would not have resigned. It's amazing, though, people

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Speaker 3: the one and only person who never did anything, the

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Speaker 3: only perfect person, the only blameless person. They get caught

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Speaker 3: doing something, they want to compare themselves to Jesus hanging

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Speaker 3: on the cross. Sort of the height of ego, is

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Speaker 3: it not. Perhaps a better tactic would have been, you know,

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Speaker 3: probably I shouldn't have done that, and maybe I'll just

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Speaker 3: ask Jesus for forgiveness instead of comparing myself to him.

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Speaker 3: Join us again tomorrow for more common sense for the

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Speaker 3: American people. Signing off Scott Sheddings here on the Salem

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