1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. 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It is January eighth. 26 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Andrew Covit executiroducer of this show, joined by Blake Neff 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: per usual, and we are honored to be joined right 28 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: at the top here by Energy Secretary Chris Wright, who 29 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: is a man that is in the middle of a 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: lot of the news that's happening, especially when it comes 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: to venezuela sludgie crude, a new term that I learned 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: this morning preparing for this interview. Secretary right, welcome to 33 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: the show. 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: Andrew, thanks for having me in honor to be on 35 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: the Charlie Kirk Show. 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an honor. I got to meet you recently 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: in person on a visit to DC, so it's an 38 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: honor to have you here. I was struck by the 39 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: way when we met, just your enthusiasm and your energy 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean no pun intended, but just for this topic 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: and all the great work that you're doing on the 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: domestic side. And so I was not shocked because you 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: strike me as a guy that has a pretty much 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: boundless enthusiasm, energy and bandwidth. And so I was not 45 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: shocked when I saw that President Trump put you and 46 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: added to your portfolio the issue of venezuelan oil. So 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: a lot of people there's a lot of confusion about 48 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: how much they produce, how much they can produce, what 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: is America's role, And now that you're in charge of 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: kind of overseeing this project, please give us the breadth 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 2: and depth of this situation as it stands. 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 3: You bet, Look, it's an honor. 53 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: I think this issue of Venezuela, it's sort of a 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 4: perfect illustration of President Trump's broader agenda, which is prosperity 55 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: at home here in America and peace abroad, because they 56 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: always tied together, and in this case they're deeply tied together. 57 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: Venezuela was a giant oil producer twenty thirty forty fifty 58 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: years ago. American company's American investment been American technology. And 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 4: then they've collapsed under a socialist, communist, top down, corrupt 60 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: dictatorship that just ruined the country. 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 3: And let's come back to Venezuela in a second. 62 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: But for the United States, that shrinking oil going out means. 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: Less oil on the market. 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,399 Speaker 4: On balance, it means higher oil prices, it means more 65 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 4: refugees forced out of the country. It means they've gone 66 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: into drug dealing and arms dealing, in human trafficking to 67 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 4: make money and fund their government, all of which has 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: bought grave negative consequences to the United States and the 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 4: whole Western hemisphere. So President Trump looks at this and says, 70 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: we got to stop this immigration of drugs and people 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: and guns and support for the adversaries of the United States, 72 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: Iran in Russia and other terrorist organizations in Venezuela. This 73 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 4: is hurt in America. We've got to fix that problem. 74 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: But it's not troops on the ground. We're not invading Venezuela. 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: But the last twenty five years of pressure as Venezuela's 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 4: just gone down the tube haven't worked. President Trump was 77 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: creative and thoughtful. How do we do this, How do 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: we use energy and commerce to reform the state of Venezuela. 79 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 3: So I'm thrilled with what he's done. 80 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 4: Arresting someone that President Biden had a fifteen million dollar 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: bounty on the head of Nicholas Maduro. It is not controversial. 82 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: This guy has run a narco terrorist state. That guy 83 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 4: is now in custody with his wife, facing trial. 84 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: And we're using the leverage over. 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 4: Energy sales to get the existing interim authorities in Venezuela 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: to work with the United States to pivot that country 87 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: in a better direction. A better direction, reduces crime, reduces 88 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: drug dealing, reduces stressors on the American economy, and ultimately 89 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: can bring prosperity, which is what capitalism freedom brings back 90 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: to Venezuela, and it can bring lower energy prices and 91 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: enormous business opportunities for Americans. 92 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we definitely agree with you on 93 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: the opportunity. I see the opportunity. I have so many 94 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: questions though. There's questions about you know, how much oil 95 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: is there in Venezuela, right, there's there's allegations that those 96 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: that was great it was. 97 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 5: People have pointed out that they're saying it's is that 98 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 5: the most oil in the world, But then that goes 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 5: back to OPEC, and OPEC goes on national estimates and 100 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 5: in theory Venezuela was exaggerating. Yeah, do we have any 101 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 5: hard knowledge on that, Secretary. 102 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 3: Oh, we do. 103 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 4: Look, American companies have been on the ground in Venezuela 104 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: for over one hundred years, so that three hundred billion 105 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: barrels have proved reserve. 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: It's actually a credible number. 107 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: But when you hear these numbers, understand all of them 108 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: are wild under. 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Estimates of the actual oil in the ground. 110 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 4: The United States is reserved today are about fifty billion 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: barrels of oil, so only a sixth of Venezuela. But 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 4: we produced twenty times as much crude oil, and the 113 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: United States reserves today are the highest they've ever been. 114 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: So for it really was your total underground. Well, we've 115 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 4: been producing oil for one hundred and fifty years. Why 116 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 4: isn't our number going down? Our numbers going up? So 117 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: you know, it's a narrow measure of with today's technology 118 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 4: and at today's price, how much oil could you lift 119 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 4: out of the ground that we know about right now. 120 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 4: So Venezuela's reserves are immense. 121 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: That is very real. 122 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: So but you can't that oil underground doesn't meaningthing. You 123 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 4: need technology, capital, and rule a lot to get it out. 124 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 4: But that's what America is aiming to bring back. 125 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: So I've read that you've met with Conoco, Phillips, Chevron, Examobile. 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: Now these were oil fields infrastructure that were owned by 127 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: American companies. Previously they were expropriated by Hugo Chavez and 128 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: maduro A. I've also read that this the revenue from 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: oil sales will go into American controlled accounts. How does 130 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: that work? So you sell some oil from Venezuela, you 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: got to buyer. The money goes into an account. 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 4: What happens then, See normally before they shipped tankers around 133 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 4: the world, even though we had sanctions on them. That 134 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: Biden administration and too many others don't enforce those sanctions, 135 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 4: so that oil goes out. It was mostly going to China, 136 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: mostly going to China and Cuba and other not crystal 137 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: not class A actors in the world. And then that 138 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 4: money was flowing into Venezuela. Some of it was going 139 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: to the government, some of it was going to corruption people. 140 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: You know, there was that corruption is centered around the 141 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 4: raising of that money. 142 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: What's happening. 143 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: Then we put a blockade around, said you can't sell 144 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: oil to the world. Well, Venezuela can't survive long without 145 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: selling oil to the world. Drug Enforcement Agency with the 146 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: help of the Department of War, extracted Venezuela, I mean 147 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 4: Maduro and his wife out of the country and we 148 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 4: just began a dialogue with him. Do you want to 149 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 4: sell oil? Well, of course they want to sell oil. 150 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: We said, well, look this is how we're going to 151 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: sell oil. We're going to let the tankers go out. 152 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: We'll market that oil, we'll actually get a better price 153 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 4: and more secure payment, much more than they could, and 154 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 4: we'll put that money into an account and we'll bring 155 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: that money back to Venezuela. But it gives us the 156 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 4: leverage to change their behavior, to stop their destructive activity 157 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: for America and Americans, and steer their policies in a 158 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 4: better direction. 159 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: Old with the ultimate goal to lead to. 160 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: A representative government in Venezuela, restore freedom, democracy and prosperity. 161 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: So it is a giant geopolitical chessboard here that we're 162 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 2: moving around. And so the question is does that money 163 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: then get shared directly with, you know, the Venezuelan companies 164 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: or are American companies going to come back in and 165 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: they're going to be profit sharing you know, I think 166 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: that's the question. And then are they ready to make 167 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: that investment once again, mister secretary. 168 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 4: So look, Chevron is still in the country, and there's 169 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: little changes we can make that can allow Chevron to 170 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: expand their production. But what will bring American oil companies back, 171 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: and believe me, there are tons of them that are 172 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: very anxious to come back, is just to believe that 173 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 4: the rule of law will be respected and that the 174 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 4: commercial agreements they can make are in the best interests 175 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: of their country. You know, way Venezuelan government owes lots 176 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: of them billions of dollars. 177 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: So, yes, there's an ugly history here. 178 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 4: But our belief is, and I think these companies share 179 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 4: that belief, is that with President Trump's leadership and the 180 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 4: leverage we have today, we can move things forward in Venezuela. 181 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: So it's once again it's once again a profitable place 182 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: for American businesses to go because, of course both sides win. 183 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 4: If the oil companies make money, they're going to produce 184 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: more oil. A lot of the revenue from that oil 185 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: production goes into the government of Venezuela, but it also 186 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 4: goes into the paychecks and economies. 187 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: Of the country as a whole. 188 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 4: So there's just Venezuela fifty years ago is one of 189 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,439 Speaker 4: the wealthiest per capita nations in the cut in the world, 190 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 4: and they've just collapsed. 191 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: President Trump walked into a catch twenty two when taking office. 192 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: Do nothing in America would be staring at a ticking 193 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, 194 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train 195 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: and buy us some time. But the effects of past 196 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: administration spending are still working through the system, and experts 197 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: predict dramatic price increases and market uncertainty. Trump is doing 198 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: all he can, but no matter who's in office, protecting 199 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: your retirement savings is ultimately up to you, and that's 200 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 2: why many Americans are turning to real assets like gold 201 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: and silver. Preserve Gold is our go to choice here 202 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: at the Charlie Kirk Show. 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Like I said, I met you in person 213 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: and I know just you have so much. I was 214 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: blown away, just on a more personal level, just how 215 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: much insight you have about so many different areas, And 216 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: I think you have been doing a tremendous job at 217 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: the Department of Energy. And you guys, by the way, 218 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 2: your portfolio. People don't understand how large the portfolio is 219 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: at the Department of Energy. You guys have a lot 220 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: of different avenues and projects that you work on that 221 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: people wouldn't as. 222 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: Nuclear arsenal, the nuclear nuclear Yeah, by the way, are. 223 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: You pro nuclear, mister secretary? 224 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: Oh? 225 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. 226 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 4: I went to college to work on nuclear energy, you know, 227 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 4: as a seventeen year old kid. So yes, we want 228 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: to launch a nuclear renaissance. We are also the designers 229 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 4: and constructors of the nuclear weapons arsenal for the United States, 230 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: the nuclear engines that power our submarines and aircraft carriers, 231 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: and maybe least known, the seventeen National Labs, which are 232 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: the greatest Nobel Prize winning factories on planet Earth, and 233 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: that are the anchor of our Genesis AI mission that 234 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 4: we're launching in the country. So you're right, the Department 235 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: of Energy is sort of broadly national security, science, engineering, 236 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: and energy. 237 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now geopolitics, well, I mean I think probably 238 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: always geopolitics. So we're getting these you know, I don't 239 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: want to keep I know you got an out here, 240 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: but you're we saw this GDP number get revised up 241 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: where you know we're seeing numbers like four point three 242 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: four point nine. How much of the success of the 243 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: Trump administration economically is starts with you and the the 244 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: the energy policies that the President is outlined. 245 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 4: Well, look, energy is I call it the infrastructure. It's 246 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 4: the basic plumbing of any economy. If you get energy wrong, 247 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 4: nothing else matters. If you get energy right, you've just 248 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 4: got a land of opportunity manufacturing overturn there you can 249 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 4: win an AI race for example, versus China. So yeah, 250 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: energy is pretty foundational on that and regulatory reform, which 251 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: is all the departments are working on that. We've got 252 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: to make it so you can build big things in 253 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: America again and invest in our country. 254 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: I think President's leadership is. 255 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: You're so correct to bring confidence. 256 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 5: Everything comes from everything comes from energy. Like if you 257 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 5: just look at the industry revolution, all the industrial revolution 258 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 5: was was you increased access to the energy to do work. 259 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 5: And every step where we've taken a big leap forward 260 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 5: technologically has just been more and cheaper energy, and the 261 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 5: path of decline is deciding, oh, we need to reduce 262 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 5: our energy usage cap it reduce. 263 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: It, mister secretary, you know the Industrial revolution was sparked 264 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: Blake made an apt observation by access to cheaper and 265 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: better energy sources. You have done a breakdown between red 266 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 2: states and Blue states, and I know we're getting a 267 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: little off the venezuela oil topic here, but how stark 268 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: is the difference in energy policy and then prices between 269 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: Red states and Blue states. 270 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't know how many people would love 271 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 4: a little more than fifty percent increase in their electricity prices, 272 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: but that's the difference between blue states. If you average 273 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: across all the Blue states, and you average across all 274 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: the Red states, blue states are over fifty percent higher 275 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: electricity prices. And that's not bad luck. Those are just 276 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: political choices. Back to this energy thing, restrictive policies that 277 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: make energy more expensive. Somehow Blue states think that's virtuous, 278 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 4: but in reality, it's just impoverishing for citizens, and it's 279 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: just a dissuasion for businesses to want to locate there, 280 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 4: which is why there's continual migration from blue high energy 281 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 4: price states to red, low energy price pro freedom states. 282 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at a chart right here. So they 283 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 5: measure power costs in kill a loot hours. It's kind 284 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: of like a common measure of energy. And Texas twelve 285 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 5: cents per kilo lot hour, Florida thirteen cents per kilo 286 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 5: lot hour, California thirty cents per kilo lot hour. So 287 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 5: that's three times as much electricity. That affects, Yeah, your 288 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: home power bill. But imagine you're running a factory, Imagine 289 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 5: you are making something. Those can take a ton. 290 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: Of energy businesses. It's even worse in Europe. 291 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: The reason factories are leaving Europe. UK can't make anything, 292 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 5: Germany is unable to make things anymore is they've made 293 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 5: their electricity prices too high, and you can't run a 294 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 5: power plant. You can't run a plant. 295 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: I'm certain that the Secretary has strong opinions on this 296 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: because I've seen some of the reporting on your critiques 297 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,119 Speaker 2: of European energy policy. Mister Secretary. 298 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 4: No, you're right on if you make energy more expensive. 299 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: If they did it saying they were fighting climate change, 300 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: if you look at the data on emissions, they didn't 301 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: do anything in that regard. But when they made energy 302 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: more expensive, they just exported their industry. They you know, 303 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: they all these factories Germany and the United them these 304 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: are the birthplaces of the industrial revolution. They just sent 305 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: all their industry to China and elsewhere in Asia. And 306 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 4: if you look at that after the financial crisis, that's 307 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: when there was a huge pivot in energy policies. 308 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 5: It's so important that energy stuff. It's amazing when you 309 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: look at the chart where it's. 310 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: Just every big leap forward. 311 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 5: It almost can make civilization deterministic, where they'll look at like, oh, 312 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: why did you know, why did Rome fall or something? 313 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: Or why did this Chinese dynasty fall? And they'll say, well, 314 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 5: it actually just seems that the price of energy on 315 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 5: the primitive forms they use got too high and they 316 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: couldn't contain civilization and. 317 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: Crazy foundational like the energy policy of this Trump administration 318 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: versus the Biden administration versus Europeans, it couldn't be more stark. 319 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: And it actually is the foundational choice, the first choice 320 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: in a series of dominoes that falls after or whether 321 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: you're going to be pro growth or anti growth. It's 322 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 2: really that that foundational And I was going to ask 323 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: the Secretary to bring it back full circle to on Venezuela, 324 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: how does this help us domestically, because again the base 325 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: Trump voters America. First, they're skeptical about foreign interventions. But 326 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: this is Western Hemisphere. It's oil, it's energy. It's also 327 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: kicking out our adversaries out of the Western Hemisphere to 328 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 2: metal around in our business. But there will be downstream 329 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: positive impacts not only for American companies but American consumers. So, yes, 330 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: Caleb was watching. He says, somebody cut the power to 331 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 2: the energy secretary. I know, I agree, it was probably 332 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: probably the Chinese blake. Let's go ahead and pivot though. 333 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: The main story of the day obviously is Minneapolis. Oh yes, exactly, 334 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: Why don't you set the table for us what happened 335 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. 336 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 5: This was happening during the show yesterday. We didn't have 337 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 5: the chance to react to it. We let me make 338 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 5: sure I've got the stuff for it. We didn't have 339 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 5: a chance to react to it, but it was breaking 340 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 5: at the time, and we got videos right after the show. 341 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 5: So what happens is ICE has surged into Minneapolis. They're 342 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 5: doing raids, and by extension, we're getting all the things 343 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: that the left has trained people to do against ICE 344 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 5: in last year. You have people following them, you have 345 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 5: people harassing them, you have people trying to clog up traffic, 346 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 5: and unfortunately, yesterday it did a result in a fatal shooting. 347 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: And I guess we may as well just play it. 348 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 5: So this occurred yesterday in somewhere in Minneapolis. Let's play 349 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 5: two seventy five. Okay, there's no audio on this one, 350 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 5: but they're approaching and they're saying, get out of the car, 351 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 5: get out of the car. She backs up and then 352 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 5: she accelerates away. And what happens is there was an 353 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 5: ice agent behind the one you could see approaching. 354 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: The side, who is directly in front. 355 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 5: He was in front of the car, and she sort 356 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 5: of turns away from but she brushes against his leg 357 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 5: and he'd already I believe, drawn his weapon at that point, 358 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: and I think in the split second he reached the 359 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 5: conclusion she was possibly trying to run him over, and 360 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 5: he shot through the front window and killed her instantly. 361 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: And then you can see it in slow motion. Right there, 362 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: there's a second angle which clearly shows that the ice 363 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: agent was actually hit. It clipped, and there's you can 364 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: also see her wheels are spinning out because it's icy, 365 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: it's cold, her wheels spin out. She's that when the 366 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: shot is fired. If you freeze frame it, her wheels 367 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: are actually turned towards the Ice officer. I suspect that 368 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: the wheels only turned to the right once the officer 369 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 2: drew his his firearm. I looked at this clip by 370 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: clip last night. Here's three hundred clip three hundred. This 371 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: is with sound. Make sure we don't have any swear 372 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: words in this clip. Three hundred. 373 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 6: No. No. 374 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting though. This thirty seven year old woman, 375 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: apparently she has a female partner, the kid. First question, 376 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: I don't know what a thirty seven year old woman 377 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: is with a kid is doing out there, going head 378 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 2: to head with Ice agents doing some sort of like 379 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: citizen vigilanti, you know, observing. That's not observing. She was obstructing. 380 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: And here's a witness that actually basically defines this lady 381 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: as the main car leading the protest to anyone. 382 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 7: They clearly wanted her out of there because she was 383 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 7: the main car leading the protest, is my understanding. I 384 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 7: talked to another guy who was driving behind her, but 385 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 7: she was she was very at she was very successful 386 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 7: in blocking traffic. She was doing what she was what 387 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 7: she was set out to do, and so they wanted 388 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 7: to get her the hell out of there. 389 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it. 390 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 8: Looked like she was impeding ice vehicle, definitely. 391 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was her goal. 392 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: That was her goal. That was her goal. 393 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: Well, so I think my read on it is I 394 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: don't believe she was attempting to run anyone over. 395 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 2: I think in. 396 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 5: Actually all have longer thoughts on this. Yeah, so I'll 397 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 5: want a strong reaction to that. But I think this 398 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 5: was a tragic accident. But the most important takeaway is 399 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 5: it's a tragic incident that's been caused by the left 400 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 5: strategy to harass ice, to intimidate Ice, and ultimately, the 401 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 5: Left wanted something like this to happen. Their strategy is 402 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 5: designed to produce something like this, and I can elaborate 403 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 5: on that thousand percent. 404 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 2: My pillow wants to say a heartfelt thank you to 405 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: our listeners for your continued support. 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You were building 425 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: out this idea that this is ultimately the Democrats called 426 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: what happened. 427 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 5: With this Minneapolis shooting, well, let's tee it up. So 428 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 5: a thing that's built up to this is just this violent. 429 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 5: There has been a growth of violent rhetoric against ICE 430 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 5: intended to delegitimize it as an institution. I know we 431 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 5: have some clips related to that. So most recently we 432 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 5: had a Democrat representative Joe Moran says there is no 433 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 5: no violent rhetoric against ICE. He hasn't seen that, there's 434 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 5: no anywhere. He said there was none. We'll show that 435 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 5: clip two seventy nine. 436 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 9: Frankly, what's really frustrating about this. I saw Speaker Johnson's 437 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 9: comments who. 438 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 8: Immediately says that there's been. 439 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 9: This effort to encourage people to engage in violence with 440 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 9: law enforcement officers. 441 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: That's not true. 442 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that anywhere. Okay, well that's not true. 443 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: Our team whipped up a montage of some stuff. 444 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: Let's play to eighty. 445 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 5: When I see ICE, I see slave patrolls picked up. 446 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: You know, hooded thugs in the street. 447 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: ICE, you know thugs, nondescript thugs like vigilantes. 448 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 7: ICE is a terrorist organization and kidnapping and. 449 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: Disappearing people, stealing and yes, kidnapping people. 450 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: The Vice mayor allegedly calling on gang members to defend 451 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: the city from these immigration rates. I want to know 452 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: where all the trollers are at in Los Angeles. 453 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: Stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbor. 454 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 10: Every single one of them, no matter what it takes, 455 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 10: No matter how long it takes, will of course be identified. 456 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 8: Our police do not cooperate with ICE. 457 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 10: Our local police department will not ever cooperate with ICE. 458 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: Democrats told to get shot for the anti Trump resistance, 459 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: and there needs to be blood to grab the attention 460 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: of the press and the public. 461 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 5: That last one is the really revealing one, and like 462 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: and you can find more. You can find articles that 463 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 5: call them the American Gestapo. You can find tweets and 464 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 5: blue Sky whatever they call a blue Sky post, like 465 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 5: the American. 466 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 2: Ss Oh, we have him. 467 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 5: Ah, I'll have to complete this afterwards with this, that's 468 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 5: all right, Let's jump to the senator, right. 469 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Senator Eric Schmidt, welcome to the show. You are 470 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: a former state ag of the great state of Missouri, 471 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: and you're a lawyer. You know there is this hole 472 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: back and forth online. Vice President jad Vance chimed in. 473 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: I thought this was I literally did not realize this 474 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,479 Speaker 2: would be a contentious point. One of the points that 475 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 2: the left is making is that this shooting was unjustified 476 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: because this woman's a US citizen and this ICE agent 477 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 2: is not a cop. It's an ICE agent, so that 478 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 2: the US citizens don't have to obey orders from an 479 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: ICE agent. 480 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't. 481 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 10: That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 482 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 8: Yes, First of all, what it appears. 483 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 10: From what I saw on the couple of angles on 484 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 10: the video is that she was impeding efforts by ICE 485 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 10: agents to do their jobs. You're not supposed to be 486 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 10: able to do that. She was given direction to sort 487 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 10: of stop doing that, and then this ICE officer was struck. 488 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 10: And when you put that in the context of vehicular 489 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 10: assaults up over one thousand percent across the country on 490 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 10: ICE agents and the demonization that's happened over the course 491 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 10: of the last year by the left against ICE agents, 492 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 10: it's created a powder keke guys like I was in 493 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 10: a committee hearing and talked about this. The Democrats rhetoric 494 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,400 Speaker 10: on this is insane. But as far as this goes specifically, 495 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 10: if if the officer fears for his life or significant 496 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 10: body of the harm, he can defend himself, which is what 497 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 10: was happening there, right, I mean the angle of you know, 498 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 10: and by the way, you notice the tires sort of 499 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 10: skid out too, which also reveals that the car was 500 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 10: a little bit out of sort of control, but appears 501 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 10: to be from everything that I've seen justified. 502 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 8: It's a tragic situation. 503 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 10: I mean, anytime you have a loss of life, it's 504 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 10: a tragic situation. But what's really strange about all this 505 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 10: is that the Democrats, I'm surprised this hadn't happened sooner, 506 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 10: but they continue to sort of create these conditions for 507 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 10: confrontations with ICE agents who are supposed to do their jobs. 508 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 10: And one last point, like deportations are nothing new, like 509 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 10: Bill Clinton deported millions of people, what's different now is 510 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 10: the Democrats actually in the left, they don't actually believe 511 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 10: in borders. They don't actually believe that anybody should ever 512 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 10: have to go home, that once you're here, you should 513 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 10: stay here in perpetuity. And they've created the villains, these 514 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 10: ICE agents who are fathers and sons and daughters and 515 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 10: aunts and uncles who are just doing their jobs. And 516 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 10: what you'll never hear the left say. You'll never hear 517 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 10: them say this, guys, is you know what, step away 518 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 10: and let the ICE agents do their jobs because they 519 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 10: don't want them to. They don't want them to. So 520 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 10: it's a terrible situation. But yes, an American citizen has 521 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 10: to obey orders from ICE agents when they're impeding the 522 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 10: progress of what the ICE agents are trying to do, 523 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 10: and you certainly don't have the right to try to 524 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 10: run them over. 525 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 5: Senator, do you think there's any potential We just there's 526 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: so much deliberate will to get people to go out 527 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 5: there to harass ice target ICE. We've had car like 528 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 5: why did this happen? This happened because we've already had 529 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 5: car ramming attacks on ICE agents. We've seen people encouraged 530 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 5: to use cars as a weapon. This is directly encouraged 531 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 5: by a lot of lawmakers. I feel at some point 532 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 5: there's got to be room for prosecuting someone in that 533 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: they are basically developed being a conspiracy to sabotage federal 534 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 5: law enforcement in their city or in their state. 535 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, well I do think that. 536 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, federal prosecutors should be very aggressive in this regard 537 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 10: to send a very clear message. But the Democrats send 538 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 10: the le they they're seizing on this, and I have 539 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 10: to say, just from a stepping away from a pure 540 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 10: political perspective here, now they can't help themselves. This is 541 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 10: such a part of their DNA. Now it reminds me 542 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 10: a lot of the kind of beginnings of the defund 543 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 10: the police movement that then became to define their party. 544 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 10: This is them not wanting law enforcement to do their jobs. 545 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 10: They're willing to dox these people. They're willing to you know, 546 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 10: try to run over them. They're and then that's the 547 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 10: you know. Then you have the Antifa element, which are 548 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 10: sort of the foot soldiers of all this, who deliberately, 549 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 10: you know, throw firecrackers to lure ICE agents out of 550 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 10: federal facilities so they can be assaulted. 551 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 8: They have safe houses, so you. 552 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 10: Have a more organized effort with Antifa, for sure, which 553 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 10: is why we were successful in petitioning with Marco Rubio 554 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 10: to not only have them be declared a domestic terrorist 555 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 10: organization but also a foreign terrorist organization to get after 556 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,719 Speaker 10: their funding and shut these people down internationally. That's all 557 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 10: part of this, but it's very coordinated. 558 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 8: There's no doubt. 559 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 10: They share tactics and you create dangerous situations like the 560 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 10: one you had in Minnesota. 561 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: These they call them citizens observers, and they end up 562 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: being harassers, stalkers of ICE agents, DHS Border patrol, and 563 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 2: they are sophisticated. They have lawyers standing by that are 564 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 2: paid for by a network of NGOs that are financed 565 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: by god knows who, and this is increasing. This tactic 566 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: of ramming and harassing ICE agents is increasing. Let's hear 567 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: from Secretary Nome directly on this two ninety nine. 568 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 11: Today, alone in this country, there have been four different 569 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 11: domestic terrorist attacks on federal officers by the ramming of vehicles. 570 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 11: Three of them happened here in Minneapolis. We've seen over 571 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 11: one hundred of these vehicle rammings been in just recent weeks, 572 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 11: and this must stop. ICE alone is facing a thirteen 573 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 11: hundred percent increase in assaults against them and an eight 574 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 11: thousand percent increase in death threats against all of them. 575 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 11: In fact, the very same officer who was attacked today 576 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 11: had previously been dragged by an anti ICE rider who 577 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 11: had rammed him with a car and drug him back 578 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 11: in June. He sustained injuries at that time as well. 579 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is so it's increasing, obviously. Here's my question 580 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 2: for you, slightly off topic of that. Though you have 581 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: local officials. The local police chief says he will arrest 582 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: this person if he gets an order from a judge. 583 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: You have city council members that are saying this person 584 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: needs to be arrested. Lieutenant Governor is saying that it's 585 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: absolutely a possibility. So if he faces state charges but 586 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: federally everybody's saying he's fine, what then happens next? 587 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 8: Yeah? 588 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 10: Well, first of all, let me just point out, and 589 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 10: I was in the Oval Office actually yesterday afternoon when 590 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 10: this kind of news broke and was with the President 591 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 10: and learned about even then as as Secretary Noame minj 592 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 10: and that this officer in particular had been dragged just 593 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 10: a few months ago. Right, So like this person in 594 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 10: particular had been involved in another one of these incidents. 595 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 10: But to answer your sort of legal question, what will 596 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 10: happen if that? And I Keith Ellison is is a clown, 597 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 10: So I would imagine that the temptation for him not 598 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 10: to show the restraint that you're supposed to as an 599 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 10: attorney general. I mean I wrote a book, The Last 600 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 10: Line of Defense, on all this stuff I did as 601 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 10: Attorney General. You could write another book on all the 602 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 10: things you didn't do, because you want people in those 603 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 10: positions that have some regard for the law, right, because 604 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 10: it's a very powerful position. So if he does charge 605 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 10: the officer, what will happen then? Is that case, because 606 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 10: of their federal agents would likely be removed to federal court. 607 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 10: So because of supremacy clauses issues, that would likely be removed, 608 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 10: and then he would have all the defenses available he 609 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 10: would in the federal court system. So I don't think 610 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 10: there's any chance that this would stay in state court. 611 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 10: Quite frankly, but that might be the move that Ellison wants. 612 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 2: We'll see this whole incident takes place obviously upon this 613 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: Somali backdrop, the fraud rings. You are introducing legislation to 614 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 2: be able to denaturalize people that become citizens. Tell us 615 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: about it. 616 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's called the Scam Act. 617 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 10: And I think what we've seen in Minneapolis, and by 618 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 10: the way, I think is probably just the tip of 619 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 10: the iceberg, but particularly the Somali strongholds across the country, 620 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 10: you've seen this kind of abuse with is really kind 621 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 10: of pathological. There ought to be a response, and the 622 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 10: responsor to be swift. So one we should move forward 623 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 10: with stricter fraud controls. As a condition for being able 624 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 10: to accept money, there needs to be greater verification of 625 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 10: who's actually getting the money. 626 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 8: Right. 627 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 10: That seems very obvious to like a normal person, but 628 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 10: it isn't actually baked in in a lot of these 629 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 10: blue states because governors don't want to do that. We 630 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 10: should insist that as federal dollars go out the door. Secondly, 631 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 10: there ought to be real prosecutions at DOJ, like make 632 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 10: this a priority and send a very important message to 633 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 10: these immigrant communities who think they can fleece taxpayers. But 634 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 10: what my bill does specifically, it says that if you're 635 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 10: part of one of these efforts, or you're involved in 636 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 10: a violent felony, or you're involved in you know, other 637 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 10: kinds of felonies that we list in this in the 638 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 10: legislation we're filing this week, you will be denaturalized if 639 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 10: it's proven that you did that, naturalized and it's a 640 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 10: fifteen year look back. 641 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 8: Right. There isn't currently anything on the books that will 642 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 8: allow this. So that's what we were with. 643 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: If they are scamming the system, you're introducing legislation that 644 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: they could be their citizenship could be stripped. 645 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 8: Correct, That's absolutely correct. 646 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 10: I think that's where we're at right now, because you know, 647 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 10: we talk so much about illegal immigration, and we should. 648 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 10: Thankfully we have a border, but there's deportations in closed 649 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 10: border and we have to deportations, but we don't talk 650 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 10: enough about legal immigration, right and the abuses that are 651 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 10: taking place, whether it's H one B or the OPT program, 652 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 10: which we're sort of working on to try to get 653 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 10: that rained in because there's a lot of abuse. But 654 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 10: in this instance where someone's been naturalized and they claim 655 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 10: that they're going to be good citizens and have good character, 656 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 10: there really isn't a good mechanism right now that if 657 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 10: you're not that person you say you're going to be, 658 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 10: that you would be denaturalized and sent back home. That's 659 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 10: what this legislation will do. Say, look, if you can, 660 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 10: if you're part of these scams, if you join a cartel, 661 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 10: if you are involved in a violent felony, guess what, 662 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 10: We're going to denaturalize you and send you back where 663 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 10: you came from. 664 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: Well, I one hundred percent support it. Uh is there 665 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 2: any chance of it passing? 666 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 10: I mean we'll see. Uh, We're we're going to have 667 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 10: a House partner. Hopefully the House would move it quickly 668 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 10: and then we'll try to move forward and the Senate 669 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 10: on it. I mean, look, we have to have a 670 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 10: response to this kind of stuff. But you know, I 671 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 10: worry that Democrats are so in for this mass migration 672 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 10: criteria for their party. 673 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 8: It's in their DNA, but we're going to work hard 674 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 8: on it. 675 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: Well, I I yeah, I mean I worry about Republicans too. 676 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: You're one of the great ones. Yeah, that's yeah. Center, 677 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: we have your back one hundred percent. Keep keep pushing this. 678 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: It's important. If we don't get at this round, you 679 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: keep expanding the Overton window. 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Yeah. 709 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we were just before the senator came on. 710 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 5: We were talking about the violence, you know, the violent 711 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 5: rhetoric against Ice, the really hateful stuff American gestapo, American 712 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 5: SS and that montage we played ended on Let's let's 713 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 5: throw up picture two ninety one. 714 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 2: It's that line. 715 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 5: What you need to be do you need to do, 716 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 5: is you need to be willing to get shot when 717 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 5: you're visiting these ice folds or when you're asking these 718 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 5: agents they psyched these people up. Are you prepared to 719 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 5: be shot? This is this violent rhetoric. And the thought 720 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 5: the comparison that actually. 721 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 2: Came to mind. 722 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 5: A friend of mine made it and it was really brilliant, 723 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: was he said, the less rhetoric against ICE is a 724 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 5: lot like the strategy used by Hamas in Gaza. And 725 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 5: so what they do is they do two things simultaneously. 726 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 5: They promote actual violence against against ICE or you know, 727 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 5: in the case against the idea if they do actual 728 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 5: violent stuff, but they also encourage more normal rank and 729 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 5: file people to do really provocative and edge case behavior. 730 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 5: So get in their face, like rub up against them, 731 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 5: do all the stuff that's right to the lines, swear, 732 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 5: get in their face, and you know, take non they 733 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 5: take the non violent people and they make them go 734 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 5: as close to the border of violence as possible. And 735 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 5: what they're basically doing is they're intentionally trying to engineer 736 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 5: a situation like this. 737 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: Read the news. 738 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 5: You can easily find examples of this. You've had ramming 739 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 5: attacks on ICE agents in Chicago. You've had these criminal 740 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 5: blockades against ice operations all over and you have people saying, oh, 741 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 5: shoot them do stuff. In fact, we learned today the 742 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 5: agent who was involved in this shooting last year was 743 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 5: hospitalized because he was trying to stop in illegal alien 744 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 5: and he got d in their car, like he put 745 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 5: his hand through the door and they drove and they 746 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 5: drag him. That was probably going through his mind as 747 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 5: this was unfolding their hers. And so what they've been 748 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 5: doing is they're trying to engineer a situation where everyone's jumpy. 749 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 5: This is what, like I said, I made the Hamas 750 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 5: comparison for a reason. What they'll do is they encourage people. 751 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 5: Any person who's in the IDEF knows, Okay, these guys 752 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,439 Speaker 5: could be a suicide bomber, they could have a hidden gun, 753 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 5: they could do something, or they might they might just 754 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 5: be one of the gazillions of people who are trying 755 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,240 Speaker 5: to get in their face and do all this disruptive stuff. 756 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 5: And they do this in a calculated effort where they 757 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 5: know this will eventually lead to unfortunate situations where someone 758 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 5: gets shot who wasn't a suicide bomber, who wasn't armed, 759 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 5: and they do this for a cynical calculator. The reason 760 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 5: they're using these people as human shields. They are trying 761 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 5: to create pr victories, and that is what has happened here. 762 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 5: People on the left deliberately encouraged activities like what what 763 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 5: this woman did because they know it could eventually result 764 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 5: and someone gets shot. If they didn't want people shot, 765 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 5: they would say, we're going to protest deportations. We're going 766 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 5: to protest against the Trump administration's immigration policies. But don't 767 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 5: get in ICE's way. Allow ICE to do their work. 768 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 5: They are the government, and you allow police to do 769 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 5: their stuff to avoid violence, and instead they have done 770 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 5: the opposite. They have gotten in the face of these 771 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,479 Speaker 5: people because they want something like this to happen. These 772 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 5: people wanted this woman to die. They planned for this 773 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 5: to happen. They are strategizing on how to exploit it. 774 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 5: They are secretly very happy that this occurred because it 775 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 5: is politically useful to them, and they are the ones 776 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 5: who are responsible for this happening. It is not Ice. 777 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 5: Ice is doing their job. The people who are responsible 778 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 5: for this are the ones who instigated this woman and 779 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 5: others to sabotage valid law enforcement to get in the 780 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 5: way of valid law enforcement and to cause incidents where 781 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 5: someone could die. Period, and we can't back off from 782 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 5: that point, regardless of how this exact situation went down. 783 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 2: I felt the very same way when George Floyd was killed, exactly, empfelt. 784 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: It shows the improvement of how we've our understanding of 785 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 5: the left's tactics compared to twenty twenty. 786 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've built up immunities to it. Three twenty seven. 787 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 2: Can you throw that up? ICE agents who opened fire 788 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 2: on Renee Good was dragged hospitalized by illegal migrant driver 789 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 2: last year you mentioned this. This was it's been proven 790 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 2: documented that shows that this is a repeat action that 791 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 2: they're trying to get in their face. They keep ramming, 792 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: they keep harassment people to flee. 793 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 5: They you know, you've got these flights, you've got if 794 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 5: they want every ICE agent to feel jumpy and worried, 795 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 5: and that's what causes. 796 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 2: Mishootings in the end. And we don't know that this 797 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 2: is a mistake necessarily, but it causes unfortunate incidents to happen, exactly, 798 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: you know, And I kind of agree with you. I 799 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 2: don't believe that this woman was trying to run him 800 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 2: over necessarily, but she was willing to like take a car, 801 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 2: hit the gas so fast that it would spin out 802 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: to try and flee from them, and to hell with 803 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,879 Speaker 2: where she was pointing. She didn't seem to care at 804 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: that moment because she just. 805 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 5: Made they'd psyped her up. Oh, these masked men will 806 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 5: kidnap you, and just gstopas coming for the Gestapo's coming 807 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 5: after you, as opposed to ICE are real police. If 808 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 5: they order you to do something, you have to listen 809 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 5: and like a normal thing, a normal reaction that the 810 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 5: right has to learn to say is if you do 811 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 5: not listen to what police tell you, and ICE are police, 812 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 5: you may die. That is part of life. If you 813 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 5: don't listen to police, you might die. That is a 814 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 5: consequence of ignoring valid law enforcement. 815 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 2: As well said her sole purpose of being there was 816 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 2: to block the red yes, impeding, obstructing, harassing, potentially attacking. 817 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you 818 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com