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Speaker 3: By the way, call it Tell Your Children The Truth
Speaker 3: about Marijuana, Mental Illness and Violence. Alex, welcome back to
Speaker 3: the show. You are sort of our resident expert on marijuana.
Speaker 3: You and Charlie saw very much eye to eye on
Speaker 3: this topic, and it is now back in the news.
Speaker 3: And I hope your book is selling like hotcakes because
Speaker 3: it's so important. I hope you're getting a fresh infusion
Speaker 3: of that because the New York Times is admitted that
Speaker 3: we've been right all along. Four point fifty two is
Speaker 3: the image it's time for America to add it has
Speaker 3: a marijuana problem. Big, big admission from the New York Times,
Speaker 3: your former employer, by the way, almost like maybe you
Speaker 3: still friends back there that are listening to you. Alex,
Speaker 3: tell us what the New York Times admitted and why now?
Speaker 2: Sure so? I mean, by the way, it's interesting you
Speaker 2: mentioned about the book because even before The Times put
Speaker 2: this out, it seemed to me that there was something
Speaker 2: in the ether happening with people becoming aware, increasingly aware
Speaker 2: of the problems with cannabis and THCHC. I think probably
Speaker 2: because so many, you know, so many young people are
Speaker 2: using and using very high potency vapes what's called dabbing,
Speaker 2: which is essentially smoking chunks of THCHC, which is the
Speaker 2: active chemical in cannabis. And when you use that way
Speaker 2: in particular, you can really knock yourself out and become
Speaker 2: psychotic very quickly. And so I do think that this is,
Speaker 2: unfortunately to something that's happening to people that their friends
Speaker 2: are seeing, that their family members are seeing, that they're
Speaker 2: parents are seeing, and and you know, for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: the book was starting to sell a little bit more
Speaker 2: even before the Times thing, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it actually has sort of taken off again in terms
Speaker 2: of sales, which is pretty amazing because it came out
Speaker 2: to tell your children seven years ago. And I promise
Speaker 2: you I will tell you the Times my view on
Speaker 2: the Times, which I think it's very important that they
Speaker 2: did this, But I want to tell you something even
Speaker 2: more important that happened in the last forty eight hours,
Speaker 2: which is at a conservative commentator, a young woman named
Speaker 2: Brett Cooper who you may know, post it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we actually have this post. Let's throw it up, guys,
Speaker 4: four ninety four. Yes, here, I'll read it out. My
Speaker 4: mom and I have been told that my brother's psychosis,
Speaker 4: now full blown diagnosed schizophrenia, is most likely drug induced
Speaker 4: from his years of smoking weed. This drug isn't harmless,
Speaker 4: no matter what our culture and screening people in comments
Speaker 4: sections tried to tell us.
Speaker 2: Yes, So no important and right because in the end,
Speaker 2: you know, the Times can write what it writes, and
Speaker 2: I can write about statistics and journal articles and stuff.
Speaker 2: But people react as individual stories. They react to the
Speaker 2: stories of people, and you know, especially when when it's personal, right,
Speaker 2: when it's this is my brother and look what happened
Speaker 2: to him. And that's been viewed almost five million times
Speaker 2: on x right now. And so unfortunately, that is what's
Speaker 2: happening out there, is that people are seeing you know,
Speaker 2: family members or friends or friends of friends who've had
Speaker 2: real problems and they say, well, you know, this person
Speaker 2: wasn't using cocaine or methamphetamine or you know, or mushrooms
Speaker 2: they were using, they were using THC, they were using
Speaker 2: these vapes and suddenly they wound up in the er
Speaker 2: and or maybe they have a diagnosis of bipolar disorder
Speaker 2: or schizophrenian, you know, and their lives are really wrecked
Speaker 2: by this, and their families are getting messed up by
Speaker 2: it too, and I need to figure out I need
Speaker 2: to learn about this drug. So so what the Times
Speaker 2: wrote was the broader, you know, the bigger picture question,
Speaker 2: which is this is happening against the background of the
Speaker 2: legalization of cannabis. Charlie new right, Charlie new and so legalization.
Speaker 2: You know, many states have legalized in the last ten
Speaker 2: to fifteen years. There's been a very aggressive, very pushy,
Speaker 2: very effective for you know, for lack of a better word,
Speaker 2: propaganda campaign selling cannabis and THC as medicine. It's not medicine.
Speaker 2: If we're going to legalize it on any basis, it's
Speaker 2: got to be as a recreational intoxicant that's gotten downsides
Speaker 2: and that needs to be regulated carefully. But that's not
Speaker 2: how the industry got people to legalize. They got people
Speaker 2: legalized by telling them this is medicine. And if you
Speaker 2: have seizures. It's good for you, and if you're you know,
Speaker 2: if you have cancer, it's good for you. And it's
Speaker 2: going to keep people away from opioids. All this stuff,
Speaker 2: most of which has essentially no basis in science. There's
Speaker 2: a couple of things where there's some evidence that cannabis
Speaker 2: and team you might be valuable, but mostly it doesn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just thinking, I remember, I remember being
Speaker 4: online kind of in that two thousand and two, two
Speaker 4: thousand and eight, you know, that early Internet window, and
Speaker 4: it felt like weed was coming up all the time online.
Speaker 4: There was this huge consensus among young people except for me,
Speaker 4: where they were saying, oh, marijuana is basically harmless.
Speaker 5: It was like a whole spiel.
Speaker 4: It was only ever banned because racist lawmakers in the
Speaker 4: twenties had like a moral panic about Mexicans bringing this
Speaker 4: drug over the border. And yeah, as you said, it
Speaker 4: was medicine, it would cure cancer. It basically was like
Speaker 4: a super drug if anything. And yeah, and the New
Speaker 4: York Times it says in this article here. You know,
Speaker 4: in our editorials we described marijuana addiction as relatively minor problems.
Speaker 4: Many went further and claimed marijuana was a harmless drug
Speaker 4: that might even bring net health benefits, and we said
Speaker 4: that legalization might not lead to greater use.
Speaker 5: And the number they have here is insane.
Speaker 4: It went from about one million daily users in nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety two to more than eighteen million daily users today.
Speaker 2: So the thing about canvas is actually more addictive than alcohol,
Speaker 2: considerably more. If you look at the number of people
Speaker 2: who use compared to the total number of the number
Speaker 2: of people who use daily, let's say, compared to the
Speaker 2: total number of users. Okay, there's about one hundred million
Speaker 2: adults in the US who use alcohol on a regular basis,
Speaker 2: about half the population, a little bit more than half, okay,
Speaker 2: so maybe a little bit more than one hundred million.
Speaker 2: Of those people, fewer than twenty million drink every day, okay,
Speaker 2: based on the studies. And most of those people aren't
Speaker 2: drinking all day every day. If they do, we call
Speaker 2: them alcoholics. We know they have a problem. They know it.
Speaker 2: They have a problem. When it comes to cannabis, there
Speaker 2: are more people using every day than use alcohol every day,
Speaker 2: even though the total number of cannabis users are much
Speaker 2: smaller than the total number of alcohol users. And those people,
Speaker 2: those cannabis users, when they're using every day, they are
Speaker 2: waking and baking. For the most part, they are not
Speaker 2: doing this. I'm gonna have like one hit. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's some people who do, but I have one hit
Speaker 2: at night and I'm going to go to sleep.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: This is this is this is a major part of
Speaker 2: my life. I wake up to this. I schedule my
Speaker 2: life around my you know, my vape breaks. I may
Speaker 2: you know, maybe I don't have a girlfriend anymore because
Speaker 2: I decided I liked cannabis more than having a girlfriend.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe I just hang out playing video games
Speaker 2: and getting high all the time. That is not you know,
Speaker 2: your your viewers, your viewers, no, that it's a typical pattern. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and Alex, you're kind of zeroing in on the
Speaker 3: young male cohort when you're talking about video games, vaping
Speaker 3: and this team. This actually tends from what I'm gathering online,
Speaker 3: this young male super high dose of THHC developing brains
Speaker 3: leading to schizophrenia. This actually, to me is one of
Speaker 3: the more terrifying aspects of increased pot usage and US
Speaker 3: normalizing it and us sort of deifying the drug. Is
Speaker 3: like the only drug in the universe that doesn't have
Speaker 3: any side effects it. Young men seemed to be particularly
Speaker 3: vulnerable to schizophrenia. Let's go ahead and play this cut.
Speaker 3: We actually have a cut here from Brett Cooper talking
Speaker 3: about it four ninety five.
Speaker 7: My mom and I have been told that my brother psychosis,
Speaker 7: now full blown diagnosed schizophrenia, is most likely drug induced
Speaker 7: from his years of smoking weed. This drug isn't harmless,
Speaker 7: no matter what our culture and screaming people in comment
Speaker 7: sections tried to tell us. The story is that my
Speaker 7: brother Reid, who was twelve years older than me, he
Speaker 7: became a pothead I would say late and high squire
Speaker 7: to this. He never showed any signs of mental illness.
Speaker 7: He never showed any signs of psychosis. But for the
Speaker 7: last decade, my brother Reid has been in and out
Speaker 7: of psychiatric facilities. He has been on and off the streets.
Speaker 7: And say it's like California and Idaho and Tennessee. He's
Speaker 7: been all over the country. This is what my family
Speaker 7: has been dealing with for a decade. My brother Reid
Speaker 7: is now a diagnosed schizophrenic and he is mute. As
Speaker 7: it stands right now, currently, he is unable to participate
Speaker 7: in society unless he is medicated.
Speaker 2: Hi. So listen, men have a higher rate of schizophrenia
Speaker 2: than women. They're more prone to severe mental ill less
Speaker 2: than women. And as we all know, as Charlie talked
Speaker 2: about all the time, young men are having a hard
Speaker 2: time in society today and it's understandable that some of
Speaker 2: them turn to this drug. But it doesn't make their
Speaker 2: problems better. It makes them worse. And I just hope
Speaker 2: that they know they're being sold a bill of goods
Speaker 2: here by the drug legalizers, by the cannabis industry. They
Speaker 2: really should try not to use this. It's not a
Speaker 2: good drug for them.
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Speaker 4: this is just how the New York Times kind of
Speaker 4: acts like they were, you know, they made an error
Speaker 4: of judgment. But it strikes me I just feel like
Speaker 4: so much of these outcomes were obvious that there has
Speaker 4: to be this element where a lot of people realize
Speaker 4: they could make a lot of money off of this,
Speaker 4: that they could.
Speaker 2: Like they were creating.
Speaker 4: Something they knew would be super addictive and they would
Speaker 4: be a huge market for this, And now a ton
Speaker 4: of people are getting rich off of these eighteen million
Speaker 4: people a day who are using mayor want to every
Speaker 4: single day.
Speaker 5: Like it's kind of like tobacco.
Speaker 4: Tobacco companies knew exactly how addictive their product was, and
Speaker 4: they knew how deadly it was. And I can't imagine
Speaker 4: that anyone was under any illusions who was in the
Speaker 4: know with marijuanare.
Speaker 2: There's two issues there, okay, And they're both very interesting
Speaker 2: people in the industry. Yeah, they know, they know how
Speaker 2: addictive this stuff is, and they've been working for thirty
Speaker 2: years to make cannabis more potent, to make the you
Speaker 2: know what's called flower cannabis, what's in a joints stronger,
Speaker 2: but also to produce these vapes which are essentially pure THC.
Speaker 2: And they know exactly what they've been doing, and those
Speaker 2: a lot of those people want to get rich. If
Speaker 2: you look at times, you know, unfortunately, it's the same
Speaker 2: kind of sort of useful idiocy that these people played
Speaker 2: when they called for schools to be lockdowns during COVID,
Speaker 2: when they went crazy with the Russian collusion hoax.
Speaker 6: You know, there is a group.
Speaker 2: Think on the left in elite journalism that blinds people
Speaker 2: to facts that should be obvious. Okay, and you the
Speaker 2: data on this when I'm going to tell your children.
Speaker 2: It was twenty nineteen and I was able to draw
Speaker 2: on twenty years of data showing the sort of the
Speaker 2: harmful links between cannabis and severe mental illness. And that's
Speaker 2: counting the links between cannabis and let's say, you know,
Speaker 2: sort of bad life outcomes because you just don't achieve
Speaker 2: very much because you're you're smoking every day and you're
Speaker 2: not working very hard, and your life is just sort
Speaker 2: of passing you by. I'm talking about the really severe
Speaker 2: mental illness outcomes and frankly, the downstream violence from that,
Speaker 2: which is an issue we don't even have to begin
Speaker 2: to talk about. We have so much else to talk about.
Speaker 2: But people at the Times, people at the Washington Post,
Speaker 2: people at the Atlantic, all these places that think they're
Speaker 2: so smart, they didn't look at the data, and they
Speaker 2: just told themselves over and over again, well, this is
Speaker 2: just being used to put black men in prison. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was it was nonsense. Okay, it was nonsense in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. It was nonsense even in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: It hadn't been true for a really long time. Let
Speaker 2: me tell you one quick thing that I discovered when
Speaker 2: I was tell your children, which was people, as I
Speaker 2: think Andrews said, you know, they always said, well, we'd
Speaker 2: got banned in nineteen in the nineteen twenties and thirties,
Speaker 2: because there was a perception that it was a Mexican drug,
Speaker 2: that it was a drug that was being brought up
Speaker 2: from Mexico. There is some truth in that. What people
Speaker 2: don't tell you, what they didn't ever know, all these
Speaker 2: supposedly smart people, is that Mixco actually banned cannabis first
Speaker 2: because Mexicans saw what it was doing to their culture
Speaker 2: and country and they didn't like it. So whenever this
Speaker 2: drug has become widely used, whether it's in India, whether
Speaker 2: it's in Mexico, whether it's an African or and North
Speaker 2: African countries, eventually there's a backlash to what it does
Speaker 2: to people. And the fact that we thought we could
Speaker 2: rewrite the rules on this, that a bunch of nice
Speaker 2: liberals who basically had smoked pot a few times in
Speaker 2: college thought they could totally rewrite history in human biology
Speaker 2: and legalize this and there'd be no consequences just tells
Speaker 2: you once again what a bubble the left is living.
Speaker 2: And now, by the way, you know some of these
Speaker 2: people what's happened is they've seen their kids get completely
Speaker 2: screwed up on high potency cannabis and THAC or their friends,
Speaker 2: and now they realize the truth.
Speaker 3: I think, here, here, let's do like a little rapid
Speaker 3: fire question and answer. Here is weed a gateway drug?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, evidence is clear?
Speaker 5: Does it?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: What is the rate of schizophrenia do we know? Especially
Speaker 3: in young men that are high drug users?
Speaker 2: So, I mean the base rate is about one percent.
Speaker 2: So one reason this has been able to happen is that,
Speaker 2: let's say, heavy cannoby shoes triples the base rate. Okay,
Speaker 2: even not every young man is using. So even if
Speaker 2: let's say thirty percent of young men are using in
Speaker 2: a dangerous way, that would not result in such a
Speaker 2: huge number that it would be immediately obvious. Even though
Speaker 2: this is a really severe illness, it becomes obvious over time.
Speaker 2: But what I what I say, and I say this
Speaker 2: with confidence now, is that there are probably hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of young people people, mostly men, but some women
Speaker 2: in the United States and Canada who have become severely
Speaker 2: mentally ill as a result of cannabis use, who wouldn't
Speaker 2: have been hundreds of thousands of lives ruined, hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of families Because what you heard with Brett is
Speaker 2: this destroys families, right. It doesn't just destroy one person
Speaker 2: when you're when you're the family member or the brother
Speaker 2: or sister, I mean God forbid you the child, but brother, sister,
Speaker 2: parent of somebody with really severe mental illness, your life
Speaker 2: is misery.
Speaker 4: I have a couple, Alex. So, even if you don't
Speaker 4: get psychosis, if you're using weed nearly daily from age sixteen,
Speaker 4: how bad of an impact is that going to have
Speaker 4: on your cognitive baseline?
Speaker 5: How many IQ points are you going to lose?
Speaker 2: So really good question. I don't think there's a simple number.
Speaker 2: It's bad for memory, it's bad for motivation, it's bad
Speaker 2: for intelligence. But I wouldn't be comfortable saying you know,
Speaker 2: ten points, twenty points. I mean clearly most people who
Speaker 2: use are many. Many people who use heavily find their
Speaker 2: lives disrupted by this in a sence way. If you're
Speaker 2: an alcoholic, your life is going to be disrupted.
Speaker 5: I've got another question.
Speaker 3: Where weed has been legalized, have the outcomes been Has
Speaker 3: there been what you touched on violence?
Speaker 5: Have we seen rises in violence? Crime? Criminality? Thirty seconds?
Speaker 2: So why can't they.
Speaker 6: Tell your children?
Speaker 2: There was evidence that in the states that had legalized
Speaker 2: early there was a rise in sort of in violence,
Speaker 2: basically essentially in severe violence. Now, nationally we've been on
Speaker 2: a down trend in terms of violence. Obviously, cannabis psychosis
Speaker 2: is only one component of violence, right There are many,
Speaker 2: many different components of what make people violent. Whether you
Speaker 2: know how we treat people who are you know, do
Speaker 2: we incarcorty people for a long time? Obviously that gets
Speaker 2: them off the streets. Are the cops getting better at
Speaker 2: solving gun crimes because they, you know, they have more surveillance.
Speaker 2: There's many things, but there was evidence in twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 5: Alex Bearnson, check them out. Thank you, my friend. We'll
Speaker 5: talk to you soon.
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Speaker 3: celebrating freedom of speech with real clear politics. Tom, welcome
Speaker 3: back to the show, my friend. It's good to have you, it's.
Speaker 6: Good to be back, and it was going to be
Speaker 6: with you last night. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you for honoring Charlie and his work
Speaker 3: celebrating free speech. And I thought you guys did a
Speaker 3: great job of honoring him and honoring his legacies. So
Speaker 3: and you had you had liberals on stage. I mean,
Speaker 3: you guys really run the gamut. You really we had
Speaker 3: some spirited debates about trans and it was it was
Speaker 3: it was good. It was really Don Lemon, and it
Speaker 3: was he a journalist or an activist. It was a
Speaker 3: it was a really good collision of ideas. All right, Tom,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna read something verbatim from
Speaker 3: a very prominent left wing journalist that I was texting with,
Speaker 3: and this is everybody would know the name of I
Speaker 3: said it, but I'm gonna leave the anonymous, just for
Speaker 3: the sake of the relationship. Says there's absolutely no proof
Speaker 3: of any significant illegal voting.
Speaker 5: He's talking about the Save Act.
Speaker 3: You ran a campaign based on fear, demagogue and exaggeration
Speaker 3: of them. It worked until now. Now not only do
Speaker 3: you have a majority of the country against the way
Speaker 3: you're enforcing laws, but affordability has been revealed to not
Speaker 3: be because of legal entrance. And you guys have a
Speaker 3: real problem heading into the midterms. So unless you do
Speaker 3: something about healthcare costs, you're screwed basically, and Trump's Trump RX.
Speaker 5: Ain't it agree or disagree?
Speaker 9: I agree with some parts of it, disagree with others.
Speaker 9: I mean, first of all, the Save Act. The majority
Speaker 9: of the country's in favor of that, you know, across
Speaker 9: the board, even I think a majority of Democrats are
Speaker 9: in favor of certainly African American voters, Hispanics, Republicans, independents
Speaker 9: think it's kind of common sense that you should have
Speaker 9: voter ID laws. So is affordability a big issue? Yes,
Speaker 9: it is a big issue.
Speaker 6: Is Trump?
Speaker 9: You know, He's got some work to do. Republicans do
Speaker 9: have some work to do on this issue. So he's
Speaker 9: Trump is at forty two point one percent in our
Speaker 9: overall Roal Clear Politics average on the economies at forty.
Speaker 9: On inflation, he's at thirty six. So to the extent
Speaker 9: that those continue to be issues that are of primary
Speaker 9: concernative voters, and most polls suggest that they are, I
Speaker 9: think the administration in the Republican Party has some work
Speaker 9: to do do.
Speaker 6: I think Trump RX is an answer. It could be.
Speaker 6: I think the saving accounts could be.
Speaker 9: My take on the economy as far as Trump is concerned,
Speaker 9: is that you know, he's got good he's got a
Speaker 9: story to tell. There are plenty of good numbers when
Speaker 9: you talk about the down and all that. The problem
Speaker 9: that he has as a perception problem because people think
Speaker 9: the economy sucks, even though there are aspects of the
Speaker 9: economy that are really good. But when Trump goes out
Speaker 9: there and says this is the best economy in the
Speaker 9: world and voters don't think.
Speaker 6: That, then he looks like he's gas lighting.
Speaker 9: And there there is this discrepancy between what their perception
Speaker 9: is and what Trump is telling them the reality is.
Speaker 9: And so that's really a that's an issue for him
Speaker 9: to go out and prove to the American people that
Speaker 9: he has focused on this issue. It's more of an
Speaker 9: almost an empathy type question to say, instead of saying
Speaker 9: affordability as a hoax, or instead of focusing on taking
Speaker 9: over Greenland, for example, which occupied like seven days of
Speaker 9: the media landscape and all the oxygen right for him
Speaker 9: to be doing these events.
Speaker 6: If you remember ACKed his first term, he was doing
Speaker 6: events at the White House.
Speaker 9: With like truckers and welders, and you know, he had CEOs.
Speaker 6: He had everybody in there. It was all about the economy.
Speaker 9: And he's not doing that kind of thing, yet he'll
Speaker 9: do an event. He did one speech on the economy
Speaker 9: at the end of last year in Detroit, and that
Speaker 9: kind of got overshadowed by the fact that he flipped
Speaker 9: some guy off and had this thing with this factory
Speaker 9: floor worker. He did another event recently in Iowa which
Speaker 9: was supposed to be focused all on the economy, and
Speaker 9: then went out like two hours afterwards and tweeted that
Speaker 9: he's got the fleet, you know, steaming toward Iran, and
Speaker 9: that became the headline.
Speaker 6: So they've got to do a better job.
Speaker 9: In my opinion, the administration has to do a better
Speaker 9: job of having events and focusing on the economy and
Speaker 9: then sort of letting the staying out of their own
Speaker 9: way so that the people the perception out there changes
Speaker 9: on how the economy is doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tom, That's what I find myself thinking and asking
Speaker 4: on the affordability issue, on the economy issue. I there's
Speaker 4: sometimes people have this debate. Are we in a vibe
Speaker 4: session where the idea is people have gotten used to
Speaker 4: the idea that they just say affordability is their go
Speaker 4: to acceptable expression for things just don't always feel awesome.
Speaker 4: And I guess The part that goes with that is
Speaker 4: does Trump doing events meaningfully help on this question? How
Speaker 4: do you actually imprint the idea? Oh, actually, the economy
Speaker 4: is doing well or at least this administration is improving things.
Speaker 4: I guess I don't see the obvious link between him
Speaker 4: doing an event at the White House and better poll numbers.
Speaker 6: Necessarily, It's it's more of a question. You know, he's
Speaker 6: also trailing on this on this.
Speaker 9: Question when when polsters ask does the president care about
Speaker 9: people like me?
Speaker 6: Right? Does he have?
Speaker 9: Is he focused on my concerns and that that's more
Speaker 9: than anything. It's like it's not about the policy in particular,
Speaker 9: like these Trump savings accounts, Right, is that going to
Speaker 9: have any short term impact on the midterms?
Speaker 6: Is that really going to change people? No? But it
Speaker 6: was an event where I think.
Speaker 9: You know, the focus was on, hey, this is how
Speaker 9: we help the younger generation, the next generation actually, you know,
Speaker 9: invest and save and get ahead of the game.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's fighting. The problem that he's fighting right.
Speaker 9: Now is you know, he can say, well, inflation's down, Okay,
Speaker 9: it's down, but we just went through five years where
Speaker 9: we had you know, mid to high single digit inflation,
Speaker 9: which compounded, and so people, you know, things are thirty
Speaker 9: or forty percent more than they used to be. And
Speaker 9: we're talking about healthcare and you know, college tuition and
Speaker 9: groceries and all those things. And while Trump and point
Speaker 9: in the sort of short term, well, you know, the
Speaker 9: price of eggs are down, people are still not feel
Speaker 9: That's why they feel that economy sucks is because they've
Speaker 9: been battered for four or five years with inflation that
Speaker 9: has eroded their buying power. And so I think one
Speaker 9: of the things that he needs to focus on from
Speaker 9: a policy perspective that would help him is to tell
Speaker 9: people and impress upon people that wages are rising faster
Speaker 9: than inflation.
Speaker 6: It is all about wages.
Speaker 9: If inflation's at two percent four percent, but wages are
Speaker 9: growing at four or eight percent, people are going to
Speaker 9: feel like they are getting some buying power back.
Speaker 6: They are they are doing better in.
Speaker 9: This economy, and his policies have helped wage growth, and
Speaker 9: so I think that's that's another area.
Speaker 6: But again it comes down to people looking at their
Speaker 6: TV screens and oh, Trump's talking about the price of
Speaker 6: this or the price of that. Trump has focused on
Speaker 6: the economy.
Speaker 9: He's focused on the things that that I care about,
Speaker 9: that we care about in my family, that we're talking
Speaker 9: about on the kitchen table. He's not off, you know,
Speaker 9: focused on stuff going on overseas or Venezuela or even
Speaker 9: you know, building a new wing on the White House.
Speaker 9: I mean, those kind of things are just they're catenet
Speaker 9: for the media and they help shift the issue, you know,
Speaker 9: away from where I think the public wants it to
Speaker 9: be and where Trump needs it to be.
Speaker 3: Tom So, I'm struggling, especially in this economic question here,
Speaker 3: So throw up four fifty six. This is a question asked,
Speaker 3: you know, are you better off today than you were
Speaker 3: four years ago? Forty eight percent say yes, forty four
Speaker 3: percent say no. But that yes number is about twenty
Speaker 3: points twenty twenty five points higher than it was in
Speaker 3: November I believe, of twenty twenty four, So it's going
Speaker 3: in the right direction.
Speaker 5: There's another image here five oh two. This is from Marquette.
Speaker 3: It says family financial situation living comfortably is at forty percent,
Speaker 3: just getting by forty five percent, But that's up nine
Speaker 3: points from November of twenty twenty five. So you see,
Speaker 3: So it's almost like you're getting two sets of data.
Speaker 3: It's like, if you ask the question one way, people
Speaker 3: are positive. If you ask it another way, it's almost
Speaker 3: like the Biden year hangover. And maybe this cognitive dissonance
Speaker 3: with what Trump is saying. They just can't get they
Speaker 3: can't connect with it. But what's true here? Because I'm
Speaker 3: seeing positives, I'm seeing negatives?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is.
Speaker 9: You know, people can make the data say sort of
Speaker 9: whatever it wants. You could find this stuff. I think
Speaker 9: the economy is getting better. I think people are feeling
Speaker 9: a little bit better about the way things are going.
Speaker 9: But Trump has about you know, the Republicans have until
Speaker 9: about June, and basically by that point, if anything that
Speaker 9: happens after that won't accrue to their benefit, probably in
Speaker 9: the midterms.
Speaker 6: The other thing about these polls.
Speaker 9: Too, Andrew, is you know, you really do need to
Speaker 9: go in and look at the sort of partisan splits here,
Speaker 9: because you know, there's this question if you go back
Speaker 9: and look, how's the economy doing well when Joe Biden
Speaker 9: was in office, Democrats seventy five percent Democrats that the
Speaker 9: economy is great, and five percent of Republicans said it
Speaker 9: was great. You know, Republicans not the economy suck. And
Speaker 9: the minute Trump gets in office, that number flips right.
Speaker 9: It's just a partisan sort of lizard brain thing. And
Speaker 9: so Democrats are even if they feel the economy is
Speaker 9: getting better, they're certainly not giving Trump with the Republicans
Speaker 9: credit for it. And the Republicans probably feel the economy
Speaker 9: is pretty good and they like and support Trump, but
Speaker 9: focus on independence like they're the ones and again it's
Speaker 9: a fifteen or twenty percent part of the electorate, but
Speaker 9: they're the ones who truly do move back and forth
Speaker 9: based on what they see in their in their in
Speaker 9: their daily lives, and they're going to be an important
Speaker 9: part of the midterms November as well.
Speaker 3: Tom Bevian, co founder and president of Real Clear Politics, again,
Speaker 3: so great to see you last night and to be
Speaker 3: a part of that great event. Thanks for having me
Speaker 3: and for Honor and Charlie. So God bless you guys.
Speaker 6: Absolutely thank the great work.
Speaker 3: By the way, I check your guys, I check your
Speaker 3: homepage every day every day. Love it because it if
Speaker 3: I need to see what the left is thinking that
Speaker 3: you put it all there for me right there. And
Speaker 3: even if I hate it, you guys put it up.
Speaker 3: So it's a really powerful resource. Tom Bevan thank you.
Speaker 6: Thanks Andrew.
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Speaker 6: Blake.
Speaker 3: You called this the millennial nine to eleven. You said
Speaker 3: it in Jess, But it was funny because but it
Speaker 3: is a sad story and I wanted to get to
Speaker 3: it because James Vanderbeek left us with some really really
Speaker 3: good clips. He was a father of six children, so
Speaker 3: he leaves behind a wife and six children. I think
Speaker 3: his GoFundMe to support his family is over a million dollars.
Speaker 3: I encourage people to please support that because six children,
Speaker 3: that's a lot of mouths to feed. Beautiful, beautiful family.
Speaker 3: He had some great It's just some really really amazing clips.
Speaker 5: He lost his battle with cancer. He was so young,
Speaker 5: just in his.
Speaker 3: Forties, which just blows me away. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 3: play Cup four.
Speaker 8: Thirty before cancer. God was something I tried to fit
Speaker 8: into my life as much as possible. After cancer, I
Speaker 8: feel like a connection to God, whatever that is, is
Speaker 8: kind of the whole point of this exercise on this planet.
Speaker 5: That so beautifully said for eighty five. This was his
Speaker 5: final message, his.
Speaker 10: Face with the question if I am just a too skinny,
Speaker 10: weak guy alone in an apartment with cancer, what am I?
Speaker 10: And I meditated and the answer came through, I am
Speaker 10: worthy of God's love simply because I exist. And if
Speaker 10: I'm worthy of God's love, shouldn't I also be worthy
Speaker 10: of my own? And the same is true for you.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I want to flag by the way, because I think
Speaker 4: this would interest some of our people, So this might
Speaker 4: surprise you. He was an actor. We associate them with
Speaker 4: being spectacularly wealthy, but a lot of them are not
Speaker 4: as much as you might think, and so they actually Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: his battle with cancer did exhaust the family's funds, were told,
Speaker 4: so they do have a go fund me for that family,
Speaker 4: for his wife, his six children. It has already raised
Speaker 4: one point six million dollars, which is very generous. But
Speaker 4: if you feel inclined to support them, you can find
Speaker 4: that on gofund me. I just wanted to shout that
Speaker 4: out there. Yeah, it's remarkable. There aren't enough people like
Speaker 4: him in Hollywood or in show business generally, but it
Speaker 4: is good to be reminded that those people do exist.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: He was a just seems like a genuine guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's at one point five to nine three million, and
Speaker 3: it seems like a just a really nice guy. And yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're a millennial, what was it, I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: the Dawson's Creek And then what was the other one?
Speaker 3: Friday Night Lights or was it something like that Varsity Blue?
Speaker 5: Thank you?
Speaker 3: There was those two dueling high school football pieces of content.
Speaker 4: Version of himself in Don't Trust the be An Apartment
Speaker 4: twenty three. I have not watched any of these programs,
Speaker 4: but yeah, a lot of people greatly did enjoy them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just go fundme and you know what, please
Speaker 3: support them.
Speaker 5: God bless him six kids. It's just tragic.
Speaker 3: I feel terrible for all those kids without it, without
Speaker 3: their father. So Blake, you got some emails for us, Yeah,
Speaker 3: well we got a great deal.
Speaker 4: We got a very big response obviously to the video
Speaker 4: from that disturbed man, the disturbed shooter in Canada. More
Speaker 4: I'd say five or six people send us the identical
Speaker 4: take that that man they believe was demon possessed in
Speaker 4: some way. He certainly gave off that vibe and it's
Speaker 4: very understandable, you know, whether he literally was or not.
Speaker 4: Why why that's a useful way to look at it,
Speaker 4: that when you allow certain mind virus, certain brain worms
Speaker 4: into yourself, and if you indulge them endlessly, that can
Speaker 4: really take over you as a person. That's why addiction
Speaker 4: is so dangerous. It's why Charlie would talk about this,
Speaker 4: why he would try to listen to music that elevates
Speaker 4: the spirit, holy music, why you avoid certain things because
Speaker 4: we are so heavily influenced by what we choose to
Speaker 4: marinate in and what we choose to be around. It's
Speaker 4: why the friends you have matter. You become like what
Speaker 4: you are around all of the time. And if you're
Speaker 4: around poisons all the time, those take you over and
Speaker 4: they destroy what was once a full person. You just
Speaker 4: become a parody of yourself. We have a lot of
Speaker 4: responses on marijuana. We got another email I believe, I
Speaker 4: believe she'd contacted us before from one I don't want
Speaker 4: to say the name, but she has a brother who
Speaker 4: he's basically been in and out of homelessness due to
Speaker 4: marijuana use that shattered his mental health. And we have
Speaker 4: another one. Gary says, uh, people are these are all
Speaker 4: legal because people are making money off of it, And
Speaker 4: I think Alex definitely drove that home for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got one from Clarence saying, be honest, and
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be stupid here, but marijuana kept
Speaker 3: me from drinking because I knew what drinking was about
Speaker 3: and it wasn't good for me.
Speaker 5: I would say to.
Speaker 3: You, Clarence, that just because it kept up drinking being
Speaker 3: you know, smoking a lot of pots, probably not good
Speaker 3: for you either.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: In the scriptures it says that you will be mastered
Speaker 3: by nothing, no addiction, and so everybody struggles with what
Speaker 3: they struggle with. But that's the goal, that's the north star.
Speaker 3: So just something to keep in mind.
Speaker 4: I would say the numbers reflect if you look at it,
Speaker 4: when you are hooked on one thing, the pattern is
Speaker 4: that it makes it easier for you to be hooked
Speaker 4: on other things, which is one reason making marijuana so
Speaker 4: widely available. With such a mistake, like for the people
Speaker 4: at the bottom of society, it was like throwing one
Speaker 4: more problem onto another. So it's not that we have
Speaker 4: twenty million people who use weed and then twenty million
Speaker 4: people who drink too much, and then another twenty million
Speaker 4: who gamble too much. It's often the same people doing
Speaker 4: all these things. They do too much weed, and they drink,
Speaker 4: and they gamble away their money, and they're hooked on
Speaker 4: they played too many video games, and they also are
Speaker 4: abusing prescription drugs. And that's one reason the health of
Speaker 4: a lot of the American underclass is just totally disintegrated.
Speaker 4: They're dying, yeah, and they're dying of ten different addictions.
Speaker 4: And it'd be bad enough. It would be bad enough
Speaker 4: if we just had people with drinking problems, for example.
Speaker 4: But if you have a drinking problem and you're abusing
Speaker 4: your pills and you're taking a bunch of weed, it's
Speaker 4: very bad for you. And we have to conquer these
Speaker 4: one at a time. But the easiest way to not
Speaker 4: fall into this trap is to just make sure you
Speaker 4: never set down that path in the first place. And
Speaker 4: that's why Charlie was such a great example.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's interesting though, just looking at our emails,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of you that are a little skeptical
Speaker 3: about our weed take. Still, it's interesting. Gary says, well,
Speaker 3: cigarettes and alcohol kill you. Yes, yes, yes, is not.
Speaker 3: This guy is a use idiot, so that's interesting. Donald says, hey,
Speaker 3: folks love you. The three things listed above are legal marijuana, alcohol, tobacco,
Speaker 3: Use it your own risk. They are all bad for you,
Speaker 3: and they are only legal because they make someone money.
Speaker 3: Drinking is bad, SIGs are bad, marijuana is bad. All legal.
Speaker 5: Blake final, A few moments here to you.
Speaker 3: What do you say about the libertarian argument of the
Speaker 3: conservative movement.
Speaker 4: You know, I understand the appeal, but we have to
Speaker 4: recognize like no one is an island, None of us
Speaker 4: is you know, homo economicus. This like you know, this
Speaker 4: pure Randy and superhero against the world. It's like I said,
Speaker 4: we're all shaped by what's around us. And also we
Speaker 4: are defined not just as Charlie would say. We're not
Speaker 4: just defined by our independence. We're defined by our burdens,
Speaker 4: our obligations.
Speaker 5: Our duties. We should seek out duties.
Speaker 4: That's why Charlie would advocate marriage children. You become a
Speaker 4: stronger person when you actually have responsibilities and duties to fulfill.
Speaker 4: And all these addictions we push everywhere, they are encouraging
Speaker 4: people to abdicate their duties towards others, which are part
Speaker 4: of what make us fully human beings. We'll see all
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