1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: fighting for the future of our republic. My call is 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 2: end up miserable. But if the most important thing is 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: You got to stop sending your kids to college. You 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: should get married as young as possible and have as 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: many kids as possible. Go start at turning point, you 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: would say, college chapter. Go start at turning point, you 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 2: say high school chapter. Go find out how your church 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: can get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most 15 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: important decision I ever made in my life, and I 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: encourage you to do the same. 17 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: Here I am Lord, Use me. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: experts and the only precious metals company I recommend to 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: my family, friends and viewers. 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: All Right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's January fourteenth, 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. It's a new year, but the same 24 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: old tactics are being deployed in the streets of American 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: cities to battle deportations, mass deportations, something Charlie cared a 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 3: lot about, something we at the show continue to care 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: a lot about. I believe that deportations and immigration is 28 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: the single most important issue. There's lots of important issues, 29 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: but I believe it is the most important issue to 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: fixing the country. It is the switch, when flipped, that 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 3: could fix a number, if not all, the ills that 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: we are currently facing. So what is happening right now 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: in the streets of Minneapolis. We have a scourge of tyrannical, 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: often white, affluent ladies, leftist ladies who are now being 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: used as cannon fodder on the front lines of communist 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: front groups attempting to attack and delegitimize ICE operations in Minneapolis, 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, Portland, beyond Chicago, New York. And so we 38 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 3: have to analyze what is actually happening. How are they 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:17,399 Speaker 3: going about recruiting this whole crop of women. Often it's men, too, 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: be fair, but it is often women, often childless women, 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: often white women, that are putting their bodies on the 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: line to impede, obstruct, harass, harangue, and attack law enforcement 43 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: personnel in the streets of America's cities. So Blake, The 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: question then, is what is an awful? I want to 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: start with our base operating language here so that everybody's 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: on the same page. 47 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: So an awful is this is a slang term. It's 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: probably about a decade old at this point. Yes, and 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 4: it's short for affluent white female liberal AWFL. But you 50 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 4: pronounce it awful for well, pretty pretty clear reason. Yeah, 51 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 4: and it's a type. It's a type we see over 52 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 4: and over again. We're seeing it in these ice protests. 53 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: But you saw it a tundering BLM. Most people probably 54 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: know an awful or two, and it's it's contained within that. 55 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: So affluent white female liberal it's it's generally they don't 56 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 4: need to be ultra rich, but generally at least middle class, 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 4: reasonably secure. They're very much the stereotypical intense you know, 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 4: put up in this house, we believe signs, but they 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 4: do it with usually within a pretty strong cocoon of security. 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: So you know, we'll put like. 61 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 4: Immigrants welcome in their neighborhood that has you know, pretty 62 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 4: low immigrant population that's very secluded from America's They still 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: live in a neighborhood that looks like it's nineteen fifty eight. 64 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: They you know, will. 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 4: Really hate on police and then live in a suburb 66 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 4: that's very far away from anywhere that the police are 67 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: really needed that much, very militant about. You know, probably 68 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: spend a lot of too much time on social media, 69 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: so they get very whipped up on every cause. They 70 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 4: change their profile, pick for every new thing, every new thing, 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: every new scandal, every every to do uh. And they 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 4: they tend to have enough free time to get very 73 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 4: involved in activism, so they go to marches. So ten 74 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 4: years ago they would be or fifteen years ago, they 75 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 4: would be marching. 76 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 3: For gay rights. 77 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: Ten years ago they'd be getting whipped up for blm 78 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 4: anti Trump. And you know today now they're going around 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 4: saying that ICE is the Gestapo. 80 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nazis. They're they're referring to themselves as the French Resistance, 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: which the French Resistance obviously was fighting the Nazis. So 82 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: it's a this is an MSNBC now msn ms now 83 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: reporter referring to them as this. But they are organized, 84 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 3: they are being trained, they are being dispatched in a 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 3: coordinated effort to harass, harangue, attack ICE officers. They are 86 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: convinced that they are freedom fighters, that this is the 87 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: modern day, noble, virtuous cause that they have become wrapped 88 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: up in for righteous reasons. And it's incredible the number 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: of people that they can convince that this is in 90 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: fact true. And what's wild is you have black women 91 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: like Joy Reid encouraging white women to put their bodies 92 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: on the line, their white bodies on the line. Play 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: cut three sixteen. 94 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 5: This woman was part of a group of people who 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: they train to try to be ICE interrupters, and what 96 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: they try to do is observe what ICE is doing, 97 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 5: film them, and try to use their white privilege. To 98 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 5: be honest, they're mainly white people. 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 4: Which is what we ask which is what we ask 100 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 4: for it. 101 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, because black people like we can't get on, 102 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 5: we can't put our bodies on the line because cops 103 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 5: will shoot us. And so the presumption had been particularly 104 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 5: a white woman because remember part of the rationale for 105 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: doing this with ICE is to save white women, christine, 106 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 5: white women from being ravaged by you know, criminal brown men. 107 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 5: So they white women have been taking the lead Gosh. 108 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 3: The race Lady Joy Reid. She continues to haunt us 109 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 3: from beyond cable news in the nightly broadcast. But why 110 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: this is important, Blake, is because they are actually encouraging 111 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: real crazy people to and I believe this is the 112 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: entire game is they're gonna say all these crazy things. 113 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: You got Jacob Frace and get out, You're not welcome here. 114 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: You're gonna have everybody comparing them to the Gestapo and 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: Nazis and all of this, and then you're gonna have 116 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: actual crazy people. You shake the tree long enough, some 117 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: are gonna fall out and do crazy stuff that actually 118 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: are advocating for killing, shooting, ramming, running over Ice agents 119 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 3: through twenty seven dame on them, Run. 120 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 6: Right on, aren't we We are right and we're gonna 121 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 6: stand up and we're gonna fight, Like how. 122 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: Are you running to fight? Completely deranged off their rock 123 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: or off their meds. 124 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: There's more examples the chantings besides the point it's a 125 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: There was a reporter from the Free Press who has 126 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: been in Minneapolis and talking to people, and he spoke 127 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 4: with ICE agents who say that they're having put up 128 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: a three forty seven there he says that these protesters 129 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: are loosening lugnuts on their car, on their cars like 130 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 4: when they're in parking lots. They're tracking federal vehicles using 131 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: air tags. They use whistles to kind of stalk them 132 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: and just like blow them constantly to be like ices here. 133 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: It's like a constant attempt at harassment of law enforcement, 134 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 4: hindrance of law enforcement. And of course we see them 135 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: blocking roads, ramming attacks on cars and the most extreme outcomes, 136 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 4: which I don't think awfles are going to do this, 137 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: but this is going to be though you Tyler Robinson types. 138 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 4: There's gonna be someone who's whipped up about this. They've 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: read too many posts on Blue Sky, seeing too many tiktoks, 140 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: and they're mentally unwell, and they're gonna take a rifle 141 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: and shoot these guys. Yeah, and I don't think you can, frankly, 142 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 4: when you just you can go on Blue Sky and 143 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 4: find people saying shoot ice on site. They are literal 144 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: gestapo agents. That's from someone calling herself Lady Rain. She 145 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: her has an anime avatar that might that might be 146 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 4: a biological and we have. 147 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: This three thirty eight through three forty one, just roll 148 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 3: through some of these literally just organize and shoot ICE 149 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: on site. They are literal Gestapo agents. Go to the 150 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: next one. I'm sorry, Alliance Against Gun Violence, but with 151 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: a recent ice murder and shootings, I think police organizations 152 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: across the country should have every officer shoot ICE agents 153 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: on site. 154 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: I've seen way too many VIDs of Ice Nazis brutalizing us, 155 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 4: murdering us. It would not surprise me to see Americans 156 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 4: randomly shoot ice Nazis on site in an effort of 157 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 4: self protection survival. 158 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and here you go. There's another another 159 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: example three twenty eight. This is a TikTok leftist saying, 160 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 3: the big lesson from Minneapolis is that you gotta get 161 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: your car worked onne so you can drive faster over 162 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: an ICE agent three twenty eight. 163 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 7: All we're learning from this is that you should hit 164 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 7: the gas if they're they're if you should, you should 165 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 7: run them over. You should run them over with your car, 166 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 7: and you should do it quickly before they can shoot you. 167 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: I have to go to my mechanic. 168 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 7: I have to get my car fixed so that I 169 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 7: can drive faster, just in case this is insane. You 170 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 7: you should hit them. You should hit them they will 171 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 7: say you hit them anyway, you should hit them with 172 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 7: your car. 173 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: The best way to not have a bad interaction with 174 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: ICE is to just let ICE do the DRUP better. Yet, 175 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: let ICE go to jails to arrest, to lest the 176 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: illegals who wind up there, go to prisons to arrest 177 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: of the leegals who wind up there, go to court 178 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: to arrest of the illegals who wind up there. Well, 179 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: now we're gonna and then you don't need to do 180 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: raids in random neighborhood. 181 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: And I want to talk about this because Joe Rogan 182 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: has gotten into the fray basically saying that these raids 183 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: are too extreme, they're too brutal. And I couldn't disagree 184 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: more with Joe Rogan. And to Blake's point, if Minneapolis 185 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: wants raids and wants street raids, and you know, abductions 186 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: or apprehensions on the streets stop, then maybe they should 187 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 3: coordinate with ICE. Maybe they should coordinate with DHS when 188 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: they actually pull somebody over, arrest them, put them in jail. 189 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: You could do that securely, safely, but they were refusing 190 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: to do that. They would rather release the criminals back 191 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: onto the streets of Minneapolis. And that's what these women 192 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: are fighting for. 193 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: If you're tired of watching this country drift away from 194 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: the values that made it great, it's time to get involved. 195 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: That's why I stand with AMAC, the Association of Mature 196 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: American Citizens. 197 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: Charlie loved this country and he loved partnering with organizations 198 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: that truly stand for what makes America great. One of 199 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: our most trusted partners, AMAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens, 200 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 3: is doing something special in Charlie's honor. AMAC is offering 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: free memberships to all ages, no credit card, no strings attached, 202 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: just a chance to stand for faith, family, and freedom. 203 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: Join this movement. Go to AMAC dot us slash Charlie today. 204 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 3: That is AMAC dot us forward slash Charlie Today. Blake, 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: you had a clip that you wanted to throw too. 206 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so we were just we we were showing 207 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: all of the escalating, insane rhetoric. But this one is really, 208 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: really deranged, and it's a good example of social media 209 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: just makes people feel people can run their mouths in 210 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: ways that I don't think they did before. Let's play 211 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 4: clip three forty four. 212 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: I don't really care about the consequences anymore. 213 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 8: I don't care. 214 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 6: We need to kill these people because we've had three 215 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 6: people die in like seventy two hours, and we've had 216 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 6: over almost thirty die in the since in the last 217 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 6: year to a group of quote unquote law enforcement that 218 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 6: is basically just buffed up mall cops right who are 219 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 6: gun triggering. 220 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: Happy proud boys. Let's call them what they are. It's 221 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: the proud boys. 222 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 6: Why do you think we. 223 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 9: Didn't hear about them. 224 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 6: They're Nazis. Peyton said it best. They're Nazis. And the 225 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 6: only way to stop this, let's be honest, is going 226 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 6: to be to get violent. We gotta get violent people. 227 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 6: And I'm tired of denying it, and I'm tired of 228 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 6: y'all being busy about it. 229 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: Grow up. 230 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 8: We're not gonna get through this. 231 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 10: Holding hands. 232 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 8: Peaceful protest only works if your enemy has a moral 233 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 8: obligation to listen to it. 234 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 10: They have none. 235 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 8: You guys are sitting there holding up signs and saying, Oh, 236 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 8: I'm mad at you, You're pathetic. 237 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: Burn something, burn something, shoot something, and it's just clear 238 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: what they want. There's also this article that happened yesterday 239 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 4: in the Daily Beasts that had me really angry at 240 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: from a guy Tom Latcham in case someone can, I 241 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: don't know, go harass that guy. It's personal details of 242 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: thousands of border and ICE Border Patrol and ICE goons 243 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 4: allegedly leaked in huge data breach. 244 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: That's the headline Ice Goons, and it's all. 245 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 4: About there's some foreign website I believe it's operated out 246 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: of the Netherlands and it's called ICE list and it's 247 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 4: literally just like a wiki style database of every single 248 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: person who works at DHS that they can get information 249 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: on and they get their names, they're getting their phone numbers, 250 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 4: they're using that to cross reference and get their addresses. 251 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: The goal is to get as much much information as 252 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 4: possible at every single person who works with ICE and 253 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: with the Border Patrol for so that someone can watch 254 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 4: that video, get all worked up, find the person at 255 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 4: ICE who lives closest to them, go there and shoot 256 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: them in the face. 257 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is really why you're getting at the 258 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: core of why this is important. I mean, we saw 259 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: this with Charlie right that the left used dehumanizing language 260 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 3: about Charlie's a Nazi, Charlie's a racist, Charlie's a bigot, 261 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: Charlie's a hater. You know, even Tyler Robbinson there's just 262 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 3: some hate you can't negotiate out or something like that, right, 263 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: that was a statement. And that's what they're doing here, 264 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 3: is they're intentionally dehumanizing conservatives. They're intentionally dehumanizing ICE agents, 265 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: law enforcement personnel, federal personnel, in order to justify their murder, 266 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: in order to justify doxing them, harassing them, harassing their family, 267 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 3: attacking their family. Who knows what these psychos are capable of. 268 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: And again I go back to this fact that if 269 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 3: these urisdictions do not want raids, at least at this scale, 270 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: then they would cooperate with ICE. They are actually letting 271 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: out onto the streets murderers, child abusers, child rapists, They 272 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: are letting them back out on the streets, and instead 273 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: of deporting them, they have them all over the country. 274 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 3: Now we're up to about six hundred and fifty thousand 275 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: deportations actually above that. Now those are forceful removals from 276 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: the country, six hundred and fifty thousand of them. According 277 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: to Tom Home and Borders our Tom Home in about 278 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: sixty five to seventy percent of those are actual criminals 279 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: that have committed crimes once breaking the law to get 280 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: in here in the first place, right, So they're all 281 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 3: criminals because they got here without us welcoming them or 282 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: doing it the right way. But then sixty five to 283 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 3: seventy percent of the six hundred and fifty thousand that 284 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: have been deported are actual criminals on the streets. And 285 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: I have to come for Joe Rogan because he is 286 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: simply wrong on this issue. Play cut three thirty six. 287 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 9: You don't want militarized people in the streets just roaming 288 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 9: around snatching people up, many of which turn out to 289 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 9: actually be US citizens, they just don't have their papers 290 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 9: on them. Are we really going to be that the Gestapo? 291 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 9: Where's your papers? Is that what we've come to? 292 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: All right? Joe, I'm a fan, Charlie was a fan 293 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: and admire but you're wrong. Out of the six hundred 294 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: and fifty thousand forceful deportations, approximately one hundred and seventy 295 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: of those apprehensions were temporarily misapprehensions, meaning that they were 296 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: mistaken identities they were eventually released. That is a success 297 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: rate of over ninety nine point nine percent to demand 298 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: one hundred percent, you know, I would say accurate apprehensions, 299 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: to demand one hundred percent accuracy is unreasonable, and a 300 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,479 Speaker 3: scale of this it shows. 301 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: The power of how media narratives framed people, because how 302 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: often do you think the police arrests the wrong person 303 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 4: in just normal law enforcement all the time, all the time. Oh, 304 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: we thought you were involved in this thing. We were mistaken. 305 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: You have to let them out. We went into some 306 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: there was a fight, for example, and we arrested everyone 307 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: in the fight, and we later deduced actually only some 308 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 4: of them were responsible for starting this fight. 309 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: This happens all the time. 310 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: Or they round up a bunch of kids and actually 311 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: only some of those kids were being troublemakers. That happens, 312 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 4: happens all of the time. And frankly, you know, I 313 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 4: bet the media could make a gigantic whip people up 314 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 4: into a mob about that if they really wanted to. 315 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 4: And instead the focus is endlessly ice ice ice, the 316 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: NU Gestapo, ice ice ice. So in fact, we did this. 317 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: They did this with police from twenty thirteen through twenty twenty. 318 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 4: They whipped people up against police. We got the George 319 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 4: Floyd moment. Crime doubled overnight, and then people thought, oh wait, actually, 320 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 4: oh wait, the police were just they were lying to us. 321 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: About the police the whole time, and now they're running 322 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: the same operation on ICE, and unfortunately, there's just a 323 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: lot of people. I think Joe Rogan is very emboloic 324 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: of somewhat less engaged voters. Maybe I'll just say like 325 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: lower information voters, and just they're easily swayed one way 326 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: or the other by a narrative, especially if it's a 327 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: novel narrative or something they haven't quite seen before. So 328 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: I think if they were doing this to normal cops, 329 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 4: he would recognize the pattern. But ICE isn't normal cops. 330 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 4: It's slightly different. It's a new issue, and it just 331 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: it slightly alters their brain. 332 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, they're not. 333 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: Going to be one hundred percent effective on these things. 334 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: Well, listen, a temporary apprehension. In the course of six 335 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand plus forceful deportations of people that 336 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: shouldn't be here, sixty five to seventy percent of them 337 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: are criminals. I'll take that success rate any day. 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It's not just women that 372 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: are getting co opted by these communist front groups to 373 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: go put their body on the line like cannon fodder 374 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: to fight ice or whatever, playing g I Jane in 375 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: the streets. It is men too, and it help us 376 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: diagnose actually what's going on here, because I think it's 377 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 3: a larger societal illness, a mental illness. Genuinely, we call 378 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: it trumped arrangement syndrome, but it's like something even bigger 379 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 3: than that, and it's enveloped in kind of an anti 380 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: colonial thing and an anti Western, anti white thing. Is 381 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: psychotherapist Jonathan Alpert. He's the author of a book that 382 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: comes out in May called Therapy Nation. I thought it 383 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: was pertinent and relevant to our discussion today. Jonathan, Welcome 384 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's great to have you here. 385 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for having me, Andrew, I appreciate it. 386 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. And so you wrote this book, Therapy Nation. 387 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: You've kind of gone viral a couple times in the 388 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: beginning of the year and the end of last year 389 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: talking about some of these I guess mental ailments that 390 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: we see in the social media era, this hyper online era. 391 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: What do you make of these young people, often on 392 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 3: the left, that are so motivated by the propaganda that 393 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 3: they're willing to go literally ram ice officers, put their 394 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 3: bodies on the line, risk their lives by playing stupid games. 395 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: What do you make of it? 396 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, and you have to really examine how we got 397 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 12: to the point where people are willing to cross police 398 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 12: lines and put themselves in such a harmful position. And 399 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 12: you know, it's a tragedy what happened in Minnesota, and 400 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 12: it shouldn't have happened, but it did. And we have 401 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 12: to look at what's going on in people's heads. And 402 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 12: we have grievance culture that has just run wild. And 403 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 12: if you look at the Louis man gi Own case, 404 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 12: that's always a good example. You know, you have someone 405 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 12: who felt it was his right, his duty to take 406 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 12: out this CEO of the United Healthcare. There are a 407 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 12: million different things he could have done instead of killing 408 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 12: this guy, but he chose to do this. And what 409 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 12: happens is people villainize a person, an organization, a company, 410 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 12: a politician, and then they just feel that it is 411 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 12: absolutely their right. 412 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: To take action on it. 413 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 12: And we've seen great tragedies as a result of this 414 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 12: type of deranged thinking. 415 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: And you're right. 416 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 12: I did write a piece in the Wall Street Journal 417 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 12: talking about Trump derangement syndrome, and I made it clear 418 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 12: that it's not an actual diagnosis. But what I see 419 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 12: in my practice is deeply concerning to me. We have 420 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 12: people who are sick, they're staying up at night, they 421 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 12: can't sleep at night, they're highly anxious, they feel that 422 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 12: they're empowered and they can just take action. And it's 423 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 12: a real concern of mine and the mental health profession. 424 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 12: My profession really needs to take a hard look at 425 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 12: what's going on with these people. 426 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it to me, Jonathan, it feels like 427 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 3: these groups, these radical leftist groups, by the way, that 428 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 3: we need to root out the funding networks. Treasuries working 429 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: on that. We're going to have some folks from Treasury 430 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 3: soon talking to them about how the progress is going 431 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: about rooting out the funding networks and the different connections. Right. 432 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 3: We got ms ICE Watch that's actually training these agitators 433 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: and activists on how to disrupt ICE proceedings and ICE 434 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: operations in cities like Minneapolis and Portland and elsewhere. But 435 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: it feels to me that they are being preyed on. 436 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: These women are being preyed on. What makes them so 437 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 3: vulnerable and this is men too, to be fair, it's 438 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: men and women. But what makes them so vulnerable? Because 439 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: Blake here, who's may I think, defined it really well. 440 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: A lot of these people are sort of cocooned in 441 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 3: communities or backgrounds that were safe, that were thriving, that 442 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 3: we're happy in many ways, and yet they are so 443 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: alienated from America or so antagonistic to America that they 444 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 3: feel like this is some virtuous cause. Why are they vulnerable? Doctor? 445 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, and you're right, it is both men and women 446 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 12: and everything in between, of course, And I think part 447 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 12: of the problem is social media. It's some media outlets, 448 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 12: echo chambers are created, and people are just surrounding themselves 449 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 12: with people like minded people and data that's not entirely accurate. 450 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 12: So many of my patients over the past several years 451 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 12: have talked to me about how. 452 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: They think that Trump is Hitler. They think he's a Nazi. 453 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 12: He's going to round up certain segments of the population 454 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 12: send them off to a far away island. And we 455 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 12: all know this isn't true, but some people actually believe this. 456 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 12: And when all you do is surround yourself with like 457 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 12: minded people, you actually do start to believe that it 458 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 12: becomes easier to villainize Trump or ice officers or police officers. 459 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's partially. 460 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 12: What we have playing out on the streets across America 461 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 12: and specifically in Minnesota. 462 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 4: Jonathan, does this is there like any end stage for this? 463 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: It just it feels so it feels like this does 464 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 4: end in some sort of like catastrophic melts, a meltdown. 465 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 4: I mean, we've seen some of these people who they 466 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 4: they just seem super genuinely mentally unwealth. Is this a 467 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 4: phase that passes and they get over it? Does it 468 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: get worse? And worse. I guess it just doesn't seem 469 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 4: super stable to me. 470 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 3: Is there healing? 471 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely not stable. 472 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 12: And I've appeared on Fox TV a number of times 473 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 12: and I've discussed how political division is wreaking havoc on 474 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 12: our society. And we just came out of the holiday 475 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 12: season and I had patients who refuse to attend holiday 476 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 12: dinner with their Trump voting uncle or their progressive cousin. 477 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: And this really needs to end. 478 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 12: You know, one of the things that I urge my 479 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 12: patients to think about is that family and friends should 480 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 12: be more important than any political figure or political party. Unfortunately, 481 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 12: we're not seeing that, and it's reached a bit of 482 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 12: a fever pitch over the past few years. So people 483 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 12: really need to get back to what's important to them. 484 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 12: And honestly, most of my patients are too busy trying 485 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 12: to earn a living and support their families than to 486 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 12: go on the streets and protest law enforcement officers. 487 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 4: Well, so you say the family and friend part is important, 488 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: I get why do you think we've gotten away from that? 489 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 4: We've talked about that on the show a lot, Charlie. 490 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 4: We talked about that a lot that there is that 491 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 4: loss of family. It seems so widespread though, that it 492 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 4: clearly seems systematic, institutional, societal. I'm not sure people. It 493 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: seems like people just can't have the friends and family 494 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 4: that they used to. Everyone's too online. Is that the 495 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 4: case you feel? 496 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and people are. 497 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 12: They're not looking at facts and data, they're looking they're 498 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 12: looking at the situation through the lens of emotion, and 499 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 12: that's really largely what's driving a lot of the behaviors 500 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 12: that we're seeing playing out, a lot of the pathological behaviors. 501 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 12: And if people could get back to two friends, family, kids, 502 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 12: passions hopefully that don't include politics, I think we'd get 503 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 12: back to a much better place as a nation. 504 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 3: So this is the new clip that's going around, and 505 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: you know, obviously the death of Renee Good, we do 506 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 3: not celebrate that. We actually feel terrible that she was 507 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: convinced that this was a good idea for her to 508 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: go in the streets and obstruct ice officers and that 509 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: it ended in her death, and we think that's a tragedy. 510 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 3: That being said, there's another video that seems to be 511 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 3: riling everybody up. My question for you on the other 512 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 3: side of this video is when does activism agitation turn 513 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: into direct and outright violence and what are the precursors 514 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: for that three thirty. 515 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 10: Four injury down. 516 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: I was just to get to the doctor, so she 517 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: was blocking ICE agents in the street. She was told 518 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: to get out of the way. She didn't obey commands, 519 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: which seems to be a theme here. I don't know 520 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: if they're getting trained to intentionally disobey law enforcement commands 521 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 3: and orders, but this is the video that is now 522 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: being used to rile up more activists, more agitation, more 523 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: agit prop, if you will. Is this what they do 524 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: intentionally so that a few crazies become willing to use 525 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 3: actual violence. 526 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 527 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 12: I actually think that's part of what's going on here. 528 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 12: I think these people have simply lost sight of of 529 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 12: morals and what's important. And we have laws in place 530 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 12: for a reason, and I think they're just overlooking the 531 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 12: fact that these these laws exist. And you know, these 532 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 12: people are are parents, if they're spouses, I don't think 533 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 12: that's coming into their their thinking in that moment when 534 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 12: they decide to violate or not obey the law enforcement officers. 535 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 12: But that shows you just how powerful this is. People 536 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 12: are willing to sacrifice indirectly, unconsciously, their lives for this 537 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 12: cause that's not even rooted in fact. So it's deeply 538 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 12: concerning to me as a mental health professional what we're 539 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 12: seeing play out on the streets. I used to be 540 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 12: that you would go out there and make some noise 541 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 12: and get your get your statements out there, and get 542 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 12: your thoughts out there. But now we have people that 543 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 12: are actually risking their lives and that's that's a very 544 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 12: dangerous place to be. 545 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. And and I guess the question is, you know 546 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: this hits home for us personally with what happened with Charlie, 547 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: is this dehumanizing language ultimately makes these some of these 548 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: crazy people that they're doing something righteous when they used violence. Again, 549 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: when you call them Gestapo, when you call them Nazis, 550 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: what are the precursors? What do you need to look 551 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: for with people that could be actually turning violent and 552 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: using guns, cars, whatever. 553 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's what I saw with President Trump as well. 554 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 12: We had people that would just demonize him. They were 555 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 12: convinced that he was a Nazi, a dictator, and that 556 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 12: just gave them the right in their pathologic mind to 557 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 12: take to take action. I think these people lack purpose 558 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 12: in their lives. I think they there's underlying anxiety depression. 559 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 12: There's a lot of catastrophic thinking, a whole lot of 560 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,239 Speaker 12: drama in their lives, and these people largely need an 561 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 12: object to displace that onto And we saw it here 562 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 12: in New York with the election with Mamdani and the 563 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 12: hatred towards towards wealthy people. It almost seems like they 564 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 12: always need someone to blame for their own shortcomings. There 565 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 12: was once a time when we would look at wealthy 566 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 12: people and feel inspired by them and try to figure 567 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 12: out how we could get to that place. But now 568 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 12: in some people's mind we go right towards hatred, so 569 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 12: admiration doesn't seem to exist these days. 570 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: Doctor, you said that seventy five percent of your patients 571 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: and this is one of your viral stories, have what 572 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 3: you would call TDS. You know, you're saying it's not 573 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: an actual diagnosi, it's not clinical, but this is what 574 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 3: you would describe about seventy five percent, Is that right? 575 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: Yeah? 576 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 12: And it's not an actual diagnosis, but a lot of 577 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 12: what I'm seeing, the symptoms the high anxiety people rearranged 578 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 12: in their lives, deciding who they date, who they're friends with, 579 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 12: whether they can take a vacation or not. These are 580 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 12: pretty significant actions that are that are happening. And I 581 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 12: would say about three quarters of my patients are impacted 582 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 12: by this in some way, and I even went so 583 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,479 Speaker 12: far as to say it's the defining pathology of the 584 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 12: last half decade. 585 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully we can get through this. Doctor. Thank you 586 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: for your time. We appreciate your insight. All right, God 587 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 3: bless you, and we'll talk to you. 588 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: Think about it. 589 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 3: Every single dollar you spend is either supporting your values 590 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: or working against them. 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That's Patriotmobile dot com slash Charlie. 613 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: Or call nine seven to two Patriot and make the 614 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: switch today. 615 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: So while we've been discussing all of this drama with ice, 616 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 4: there's other drama unfolding in the furthest Hyperborean North with 617 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 4: ice with ice, A lot of ice. 618 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: Not Iceland. 619 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 4: No true story. So Greenland, the legend goes I don't 620 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 4: remember if this is true, but the legend goes I 621 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 4: Land is there. That's full of Ice, and then Eric 622 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 4: the Red sails further and discovers Greenland and he names 623 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 4: supposedly he names it Greenland to scam people into wanting 624 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 4: to move there. They did have Norse settlements there for 625 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 4: a long time. It didn't work out great for them. 626 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 4: They were I believe eventually they were conquered. They kind 627 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: of they had too much inbreeding and they kind of 628 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: fell into societal Okay, there were only a few thousand 629 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 4: people there and they were eventually conquered and killed by 630 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 4: the Inuits, who were not the original native inhabitants either. 631 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 4: And then eventually Denmark reacquired it, so it's not that 632 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 4: they were always there, they actually reacquired it later after this. 633 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 4: They've been holding it a long time. As I'm sure 634 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 4: all of you know by now, President Trump has become 635 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 4: very interested in acquiring Greenland. There's a lot of reasons 636 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: to do that. It is super far north and so 637 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: a lot of you may know, other than the Alaska 638 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: near being near Russia, the fastest way for America to 639 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 4: European Russia is straight north over the North Pole. That 640 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 4: matters a lot for things like nuclear submarines ICBMs, all 641 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 4: of those things it's just fastest point between two areas 642 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: on a globe, and so we've had military bases in 643 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 4: Greenland ever since throughout the Cold War. It's all noteworthy. 644 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: On top of that, it's a big chunk of land. 645 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 4: There are potentially a lot of natural resources beneath the 646 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 4: thick Greenland ice sheet. It could be economical to extract 647 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: those someday as other sources of resources run out. So 648 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 4: President Trump's been very interested in that. Today, the Danish 649 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 4: foreign minister was in the United States in the Eisenhower 650 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 4: Building to have a meeting with. 651 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 3: JD. 652 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 4: Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. We sounds like 653 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 4: we're going to have a press statement from those Danish 654 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 4: ministers any minute now. It'll be interesting what they say. 655 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 3: We've heard that it went very well heard. We have it. 656 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 4: We have a source who was at the meeting who 657 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 4: saw what the Vice President and what Mark Rubia did. Remember, 658 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 4: they're supposed to be in a feud with each other, 659 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: but they seem to be working They're not. Of course 660 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 4: they're not. 661 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 3: They are allies. 662 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 4: They are working together on this. They're very act Yeah, 663 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 4: of course they're and apparently they have made us proud 664 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 4: on this one. It's very interesting what's going on though 665 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 4: the White House. It's clear this is a passion project 666 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 4: of the president. Just today, the White House tweeted which 667 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 4: way Greenland man? And it's two kind of sled dog 668 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 4: things at the Greenland flag. And you know, you can 669 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 4: go with America or with China Russia. And that's the 670 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 4: line President Trump was taking today. He also posted this 671 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 4: untruth this morning the United States. The United States needs 672 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 4: Greenland for the purpose of national security. It is vital 673 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 4: for the Golden Dome, that's his missile defense shield that 674 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: we are building. NATO should be leading the way for 675 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 4: us to get it. If we don't, China or Russia will. 676 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 4: And that is not going to happen militarily. Without the 677 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 4: vast power of the United States, much of which I 678 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: built during my first term and am now bringing to 679 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: a new and even higher level, NATO would not be 680 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 4: an effective for uce or deterrent, not even close. They 681 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 4: know that, and so do I. NATO becomes more formidable 682 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: and effective with Greenland in the hands of the United States. 683 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: Anything less than that is unacceptable. And I was always 684 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 4: thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald Trump. 685 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 4: So this is it's all very interesting. I think the 686 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 4: President is right, it makes more sense for Greenland to 687 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 4: be with the United States. What I do worry is 688 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,399 Speaker 4: he is definitely making this hard sell on it. He's 689 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 4: being very aggressive with Greenland's being very aggressive with the Europeans, 690 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 4: and maybe I'm a softy. I think there's a very 691 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 4: strong win win win case, and you see the echoes 692 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 4: of that in what he's saying, which is that it 693 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 4: would make NATO and our defense stronger if it's with 694 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 4: the United States in some sort of permanent arrangement. As is, 695 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 4: we have the bases there, we've always had military access 696 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: to it. 697 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: Especially after World War Two exactly. 698 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: But I think there's an active Greenland independence movement, and 699 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 4: I think people who do the math they wonder, well, 700 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 4: if Greenland were to get become independent. It's not very big. 701 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 4: It's population is under a hundred thousand people. There's fewer people. 702 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 4: There's fewer people in it than in Tempe. There's fewer 703 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 4: people there than in I think there's probably individual there's 704 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,879 Speaker 4: individual square miles of New York City that have more 705 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: people than Greenland does. And so if you do the 706 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 4: math on this, it's just an island that Big is 707 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 4: not going to be a truly independent country. It's going 708 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,960 Speaker 4: to be dependent on somebody, the same way a lot 709 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 4: of Pacific islands are basically dependent on the United States 710 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 4: or on Australia, and so it's going to be dependent 711 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 4: on someone. If it became independent. It could be that 712 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: it will fall under Russian or Chinese sway. They might 713 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 4: just back up a dump truck of money and say 714 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 4: we're going to try to buy you out, or they 715 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 4: might just bribe people. There's not a lot of people, 716 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 4: you could bribe the entire government something like that. And 717 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 4: so Trump is saying that's not an acceptable outcome. But 718 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 4: he could also point out Greenland is basically a welfare 719 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 4: ward of Denmark. Denmark does not profit off of this arrangement. 720 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 4: They spend billions a year propping it up. America is 721 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 4: far more capable of handling that expense. Oh well, we 722 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 4: have to support fifty five thousand mostly welfare dependence, and 723 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 4: we do that in a lot of Chicago suburbs too, 724 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 4: and so we're able to bear that cost more. And 725 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 4: we can say Denmark, thank you for doing this, You're 726 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 4: a great ally. Here's a giant pile of money and 727 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 4: also will guarantee a giant pile of money for the Greenlanders, 728 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: like we can give them more money than you do, 729 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 4: and we get better security. I think there's a very 730 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 4: strong win win win case to be made here. And 731 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 4: what I think would be the worst outcome is just 732 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 4: if this turns into some stupid fight, and that's what 733 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 4: we don't want is, as an example, let's say we 734 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 4: make it so anti US nationalism in Europe is now 735 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 4: associated with being on the left and against America, and 736 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 4: this allows the left to win just enough elections for 737 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 4: them to great replace their entire populations. A peroic victory, 738 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 4: very much a peric victory if you're a europe nationalist. 739 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and so I think the question that a 740 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 3: lot of people have is, right now we have access 741 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 3: to the bases, so we do have some sort of 742 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 3: military foothold there. We could build more potentially. I'm sure 743 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 3: Denmark would be willing to negotiate it. Why push for 744 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 3: full ownership. 745 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 4: I think it's that independence question, that there's that lack 746 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 4: of permanency to it. Anything that is not a truly 747 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 4: permanent relationship can be changed. And there is that independence 748 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 4: movement in Greenland, and once they're an independent actor, anything 749 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 4: can happen. If you want an example of how these 750 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: of how very long term arrangements can change Britain when 751 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 4: they had Hong Kong in the south of China, they 752 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 4: made a ninety nine year lease, and the story goes 753 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 4: that they made it ninety nine years because permanent felt weird, 754 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 4: and the guy thought, well, ninety nine years is basically permanent, right, 755 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 4: ninety nine years was not permanent. It expired and they 756 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 4: gave up Hong Kong to the People's Republic of China 757 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 4: and a long term military base in Greenland that can 758 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 4: change after one election in Deta or after one independence 759 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: referendum in Greenland. Well said, and that is why President 760 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 4: President Trump knows the value of permanency. It is a 761 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 4: real interest here, and we also have to hope that 762 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 4: Marco Rubio and the Vice President are able to make 763 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 4: that strong pitch to the Danish government. 764 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 3: Well, so far, indications are that it was a very 765 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 3: positive meeting. So we're going to wait and see what 766 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 3: those press statements indicate. Hopefully that they are positive. And listen, 767 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 3: at some point, you have to give this to the 768 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 3: Greenlanders themselves. There's fifty seven thousand of them. They probably 769 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: are incentivized by a payday coming up if they link 770 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 3: arms with the United States in a permanent fashion. 771 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 11: For more on many of these stories and news you 772 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 11: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com.