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Speaker 2: In this beautiful day following I don't know the longest

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Speaker 2: and greatest State of the Union speech ever in the

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Speaker 2: history of ever was Oh my gosh, did you see it?

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Speaker 3: I was dreading it.

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Speaker 4: I admit it.

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Speaker 3: I was dreading it.

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Speaker 5: I had just done three hours of the Hugh Hewett

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Speaker 5: Show yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I drove home up.

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Speaker 5: The four oh five and I said to my wife,

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Speaker 5: I gotta listen to the shows speech.

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Speaker 3: I can't. He promises it's going to be long. Now.

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Speaker 5: Look among my many skills, I am a California trial lawyer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I talk in frontage.

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Speaker 5: I like to talk in front of people as a

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Speaker 5: calumnist for you are a senior columnist of town. Oh,

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Speaker 5: I like to talk to I get it, I understand.

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Speaker 5: I just don't like to see other people doing it.

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Speaker 5: When I was a stand up comic, I would retreat

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Speaker 5: to the green room and not watch anybody else.

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Speaker 3: I hate it.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you I was spellbound. I was like,

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Speaker 5: this is this is the best trump. This is both

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Speaker 5: loose and tight at the same time. No weird tangents

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Speaker 5: into about how rosi O'Donnell is the anti Christ, although

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Speaker 5: she may in fact be. No bizarre riffs on golfing

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Speaker 5: and how good none of that America is great.

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Speaker 3: America is back.

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Speaker 6: Look at that dude getting.

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Speaker 3: The Medal of Honor.

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Speaker 6: Did you see that guy?

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Speaker 5: Holy cow here one hundred and sixtieth Special Operations Aviation Regiment. Okay,

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Speaker 5: these are the guys. Who are the guys, They are

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Speaker 5: the Delta Force flyers. This dude cruises out from Central casting.

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Speaker 5: He's still using a walker because homeboy got shot four

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Speaker 5: times and kept rocking. Of course, he's what's called a

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Speaker 5: Chief Warrant Officer five. I'm a colonel. I've heard of

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Speaker 5: them in legend. I won't mess with them. You give

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Speaker 5: them their coffee and leave them alone, because these are

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Speaker 5: the dudes with the skills that kills. This dude comes

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Speaker 5: in under fire carrying, obviously Delta Force guys. He's getting

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Speaker 5: shot at by machine guns, two machine guns positions.

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Speaker 3: He maneuvers his Chinook, which is.

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Speaker 6: A giant helicopter.

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Speaker 3: It's big.

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Speaker 7: He maneuvers it while he's bleeding in a position so

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Speaker 7: with the mini guns on his chopper can turn these

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Speaker 7: guys into Swiss cheese.

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Speaker 3: And then he lands.

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Speaker 5: As he's bleeding out, he turns over to his copie

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Speaker 5: and goes, hey, he might want to fly a I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna pass out, dude. And this guy, I mean, my gosh,

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Speaker 5: you look at him and it's like rip that yeah,

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Speaker 5: uniform open.

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Speaker 3: There's a giant s there, folks. Those are American soldiers.

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Speaker 5: That dude is the epitome and that coastguardsman who rescued

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Speaker 5: all those kids. Legion of Honor, that's a big metal, folks. Okay,

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Speaker 5: not a lot of E fives get a legion of

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, a legion of merit, not a legion of honor.

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Speaker 5: Not a lot of E fives get it. That guy

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Speaker 5: deserved it, of course. A medal of Honor from the

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Speaker 5: Navy captain in the secret fight against the Megs over

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Speaker 5: Korea four to zero.

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Speaker 3: US Navy, good lord.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just glad that the other guy was

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Speaker 5: army because the Navy guys would be unbearable today after

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Speaker 5: that giant, giant, hundred year stud I mean, my gosh,

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Speaker 5: And it's hit after hit with Trump and he's hidden

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Speaker 5: high notes and he's again and again and the best

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Speaker 5: part I'm not gonna repeat. I'm gonna play a lot

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Speaker 5: of ways said because if you cared, you probably watched.

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Speaker 3: He was great. I'm gonna talk.

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Speaker 5: A lot about what the Democrats did, like walking into

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Speaker 5: a kill zone. What Trump does right, and it's beautiful.

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Speaker 5: He channels Colon Pow. Now I'm now, I'm getting back

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Speaker 5: into my United States Army Infantry colonel mode. He channels

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Speaker 5: Colon Powell during it, right before Desert Storm. You remember that,

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Speaker 5: I do because I was there in Desert Storm. And

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Speaker 5: he says, Saddam's Army. First, we're gonna cut it off,

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Speaker 5: then we're gonna kill it. He tells how you're like

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Speaker 5: brass right if you tell the enemy here's what I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna do to you, and you can't do a thing

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Speaker 5: about it. And Trump's basically looking at the Democrats going,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna offer a series of things every normal human

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Speaker 5: American agrees with, and the Republicans are gonna st up

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Speaker 5: and clap, and you idiots are gonna sit there like this,

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Speaker 5: looking like a second tier rapper, all angry and bitter,

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Speaker 5: and you're gonna look like fools.

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Speaker 3: And this will be the the the It will launch

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Speaker 3: a thousand midterm ads.

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Speaker 6: Hey, US hockey team.

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Speaker 5: Whooo, little tumbleweet going by, Hey, American heroes. Nothing, Hey,

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Speaker 5: little garrel killed by the hurt by illegal aliens.

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Speaker 3: But she's getting better.

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Speaker 5: Nothing woman murdered by scumbag criminal Nada. And he tells

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Speaker 5: them what they're gonna do, what he's gonna do, and

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Speaker 5: then he does it to him. It's beautiful. They How

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Speaker 5: did the Democrats react? Well, they had their own little event, right,

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Speaker 5: they had their uh, the peoples, the peoples, state of

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Speaker 5: the Union. So let's join Robbie Rhodesteamer, who was MCing

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Speaker 5: dressed as a giraffe. No, no, you you actually heard

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Speaker 5: me correctly. He was dressed as a giraffe. If you're

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Speaker 5: not watching on the Salem News Channel, cut number eleven.

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Speaker 8: I'm fresh out of an ice prison in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 6: I've been arrested three times by Ice.

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Speaker 8: Over absurdity, over us being ourselves, over me sing it

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Speaker 8: songs like hey, mister tangerine man, get rid of brown people.

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Speaker 4: For me.

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Speaker 8: I'm marrying white. There ain't no place I'm going to.

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Speaker 8: And then all of a sudden, he's not ready for

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Speaker 8: primetime player. Ice agents with two weeks of training come

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Speaker 8: after me. I got arrested at Portland.

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Speaker 5: Okay, again, I want to emphasize what I said before

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Speaker 5: because it's important.

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Speaker 3: He was dressed as a giraffe. Now it gets worse.

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Speaker 5: A congress being from Oregon steps up surrounded by people

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Speaker 5: dressed as frogs.

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Speaker 3: Maxine Dexter, take it away, cut twelve.

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Speaker 9: I have a mother, I am a physician, and I

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Speaker 9: have a flag, and I am the proud representative for

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Speaker 9: Oregon's third congressional district. Yes, thank you, thank you, And

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Speaker 9: tonight I defy Trump and his authoritarian project by standing

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Speaker 9: in joyful, radical, peaceful resistance with the Portland Frog Brigade.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, now, if you didn't see her, again,

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Speaker 5: I want to emphasize this because I feel it's important.

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Speaker 5: She was surrounded by people dressed like frogs. And even worse,

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Speaker 5: And if you can't see her, you heard her. She

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Speaker 5: gives off that vibe, right, you know how you always

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Speaker 5: had that one friend whose mom never had candy at

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Speaker 5: the house. Right, but somehow she'd have like instead of chocolate,

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Speaker 5: she'd have like chickory or something. And she wouldn't let

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Speaker 5: your friend play army with toy guns. So you come

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Speaker 5: to your house to play army with guns because little

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Speaker 5: kids who grew up to be men play with guns

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Speaker 5: toy guns.

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Speaker 3: Right, and guess guess which kid I was?

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Speaker 5: The last thing is we gotta I gotta go out

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Speaker 5: on Joy read quote unquote singing thirteen.

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Speaker 10: Us concept in constant.

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Speaker 5: All right, please kill that Adam. I want some bumper

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Speaker 5: music to purge my soul. Let's get you young MC.

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Speaker 3: Bust the move.

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Speaker 5: I need something, something to get that out of my head.

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Speaker 5: Joy Reid, Ah, this is gonna be great. I'm kirch

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Speaker 5: Lickter guests hosting for you. You stick around, We got

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Speaker 5: a lot more.

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Speaker 3: Fun to come.

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Speaker 6: Just bust the move, Just bust the move.

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Speaker 5: That's young MC coming along to uh purge the nightmare?

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Speaker 5: That was Joy read singing little air quotes. If you're

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Speaker 5: watching on the Salem News Channel at a Democrat counter rally, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Joined by Noah Rothman.

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Speaker 5: Noah, you had a chance to see how the Democrats

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Speaker 5: reacted with their singing and their frog and giraffe related

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Speaker 5: antics from the last segment, how do you assess the

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Speaker 11: Well, what's really great about all this, Kurt, is that

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Speaker 11: this was all part of a very concerted, pre planned

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Speaker 11: effort to ensure that Democrats wouldn't seem anywhere near as

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Speaker 11: crazy as they seemed last year.

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Speaker 6: This was the plan, it was supposed to be.

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Speaker 11: This was leadership wanted to make sure that its members

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Speaker 11: that it could control were not in the chamber making

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Speaker 11: a scene.

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Speaker 12: That's not everybody.

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Speaker 11: Al Green, Elano, Omar Rashida Talay can't control those people.

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Speaker 11: They were going to make a spectacle of themselves no

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Speaker 11: very excitable, want to get a lot of attention for themselves.

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Speaker 11: They put on those two events, one being the People's

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Speaker 11: who finds racism in her breakfast cereal, who's a conspiracist

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Speaker 11: costumed maniacs. That was at the National Press Club where

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Speaker 6: But not all, not all.

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Speaker 11: The Democratic Party is so disunited and so fractious and

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Speaker 11: so interested, so invested in making spectacles of themselves that

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Speaker 11: And they ended up just looking more crazy than they

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Speaker 11: look last year.

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Speaker 5: Oh laid plans of men dressed as giraffes and mice.

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Speaker 4: Uh I I.

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Speaker 3: I'm not even sure what to say about it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what's the thought process? All right, Dave, I

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Speaker 5: need you in a draft content? Uh uh costume? All right, Madge,

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Speaker 5: I want you to get a bunch of anti fuguyes

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Speaker 5: dressed as frogs and the joy can you uh?

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Speaker 3: Can you rock a little for us? Thank you?

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Speaker 5: It was nuts and then you look at Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: and I I did not know which Trump we were

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Speaker 5: gonna get. For all I knew, he could have walked in,

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Speaker 5: grabbed his groin and yelled, I got your State of

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Speaker 5: the Union right here.

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Speaker 3: Instead, we got the very best Trump.

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Speaker 12: We did.

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Speaker 11: He was far more restrained. There was a lot of

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Speaker 11: anticipation that he would have the same the reaction, for example,

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Speaker 11: to the tariffs of ruling that he displayed an immediate

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Speaker 11: and not as actually deferential to decorum or tradition or

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Speaker 11: what have you. That was not the same Trump that

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Speaker 11: like tradition for tradition's sake. I don't necessarily love the

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Speaker 5: There's no institutional or other incentive not to be crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, I, frankly, I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think this Democrat Party can ever nominate someone

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Speaker 5: all the pain that can suffer. My name's Kurt Schlicker.

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Speaker 5: That was Noah Rothman. This is the Hugh Hewitt Show.

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Speaker 3: Stick Around.

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Speaker 5: Oh, love truly is all around. This is Kurt Schlicker,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to you Hewitt Show. My love is all around.

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Speaker 14: It's great to be with you, Kurt, especially after last night.

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Speaker 14: My goodness, there was lots of love going around there

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, of all the possible Trumps. I think

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Speaker 14: I think the White House feels very confident about what

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Speaker 5: You're the White House correspondent at the Washington Times. Say

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Speaker 3: The State of the Union.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, he was being nice. That was a terrible opinion.

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Speaker 17: Kavanaugh had the best of it, and I think the

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Speaker 17: core reason why was that. I mean, I'm sorry. There's

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Speaker 17: a lot of ways to regulate importation, but the most

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Speaker 17: common is via tariffs, and Congress pass statute letting the

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Speaker 17: president regulate importation, and it just it just makes sense.

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Speaker 17: I think in the modern world, tariffs are so bound

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Speaker 17: up in our negotiations with foreign countries. There's a reason,

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Speaker 17: you know, the president is the one that negotiates treaties.

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Speaker 17: The president is the one that negotiates all our foreign

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Speaker 17: arrangements through the Secretary of State, because you can't you

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Speaker 17: can't negotiate by committee you have, they negotiate as a

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Speaker 17: unified entity. So tariffs is one of those things that's like,

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Speaker 17: because it's subject to this foreign negotiation, it's not really

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Speaker 17: something that should just be randomly set by Congress Willie

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Speaker 17: Elliot really should be done by the president, which is

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Speaker 17: why the terror power has been granted to the president

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Speaker 17: in all sorts of other contexts. So the idea that

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Speaker 17: it's just like, oh, but this particular statue wasn't granting

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Speaker 17: the terror power, I'm sorry, I just don't agree.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's odd that he can turn off

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Speaker 5: the spigott completely, but he can't really lower the volume,

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Speaker 5: so you're full blast or nothing. I don't know if

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Speaker 5: that makes sense. I don't know if it sounds like

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Speaker 5: Congress's intent. But you know, courts get things wrong all

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Speaker 5: the time, as we've seen recently.

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Speaker 3: But things are getting better.

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Speaker 5: We've had three Circuit Court just judges to take senior

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Speaker 5: status in the last couple of weeks. Article three project

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Speaker 5: does a lot with picking judges. Are we going to

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Speaker 5: get what kind of judge? Are we looking for the

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Speaker 5: fed society kind of judge? Or are we looking for

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Speaker 5: judges who know what time it is?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: We're looking for judges, wh we know what time it is.

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Speaker 17: I mean, it's FEDSOC. Isn't a downside? I mean on

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Speaker 17: basically every conservative in a big law school is going

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Speaker 17: to be involved in FEDSOC in one way or another.

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Speaker 3: It really doesn't.

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Speaker 12: So yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 17: So I mean there's there's I guess there's like two

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Speaker 17: ways to understand the Federalist Society. One is this kind

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Speaker 17: of like event organization, and you know, wherever you are,

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Speaker 17: they put on debates and events. And interestingly, like the

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Speaker 17: liberal liberals aren't interested in putting on debates in any way,

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Speaker 17: shape or form, so the conservatives kind of mop up

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Speaker 17: in that respect. One of the reasons so many could

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Speaker 17: people go, even liberals go to Federal Society events on

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Speaker 17: law school campuses.

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Speaker 12: Uh. And then there's like the conference.

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Speaker 17: But you know, the FEDSOC has always been very loath

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Speaker 17: to really put out what it thinks about the law

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Speaker 17: in any particular incidence other than sort of vague.

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Speaker 12: Broad commitments to the principles of America.

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Speaker 17: So you know this, But there is sort of a

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Speaker 17: core FEDSOC that I guess maybe is best exemplified by

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Speaker 17: somebody like Ed Wheelan, you know, the sort of old

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Speaker 17: school can sort of legal movement types.

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Speaker 5: Good, that's not what we're looking for. Oh, so useless,

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Speaker 5: so completely useless. But you know, I was a litigator.

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Speaker 5: My job's to win.

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Speaker 3: It's not to go and say, well, we lost, but beautifully.

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Speaker 5: And speaking of winning, it looks like, oh, commentators are

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Speaker 5: saying that Justice Alito may get the to write the

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Speaker 5: Calais decision that's on the Voting Rights Act.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of that?

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Speaker 17: Well, that might end the Voting Rights Act entirely. That

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Speaker 17: would make yeah sense, And that would be that would

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Speaker 17: be you know, in the context of some of the

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Speaker 17: other things that might come out of the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 17: Like I suspect we may not win birthright citizenship, even

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Speaker 17: though I think we should. I agree it would be

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Speaker 17: very good to see. So it would be good to

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Speaker 17: see the Voting Rights Act gut it. And I mean

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Speaker 17: that actually is the best case that that Act is racist,

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Speaker 17: right that actually, I just on its face it's engaged

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Speaker 17: in you know, overt racial discrimination and and sort of

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Speaker 17: basically all the everything around it is just something that

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Speaker 17: probably shouldn't be allowed. That's not constitutional in the Fourteenth Amendment,

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Speaker 17: so in the fifth Amendment too. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 17: I'm glad to see Alito's writing that opinion, and I

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Speaker 17: think that's hope. You know, I think I think we're

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Speaker 17: gonna win.

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Speaker 8: On that one.

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Speaker 3: If we do, that's ten to fifteen seats. Take that.

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsome enjoy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 17: The Democrats started bragging, and I mean, gosh, how silly

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Speaker 17: were those Indiana Republicans who were.

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Speaker 12: Like, oh, we got to play fair.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna have that in Virginia too.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, Virginia is like, why don't we just like turn

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Speaker 17: this entire you know, create a bunch of tentacles in

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Speaker 17: Virginia reaching into Arlington, like so that like Arlington could

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Speaker 17: be split among five congressional districts or something like that.

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Speaker 12: Something absolutely absurd.

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Speaker 17: You know, anybody who knows Virginia knows it's just like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 17: really what we should be doing is a retrocession where

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Speaker 17: we put Arlington back in the district of Columbia and

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Speaker 17: you know, as it always should have been. It never

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Speaker 17: you know, the Congress ever had the authority to seed

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Speaker 17: the seed Arlington to Virginia. That needs to be part

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Speaker 17: of the federal district. It's in the Constitution.

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Speaker 5: Hey, they're they're liberal. They should love Washington, d C.

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Speaker 5: But also banging around Washington, d C. As the rumor

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Speaker 5: of Justice Alito perhaps retiring in this summer, what do

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Speaker 5: you think of that and who might replace him?

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Speaker 17: I mean, I think that there's a good chance that.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I'm not like and again I'm not like

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Speaker 17: trying to push him anyway here. Like Justice Alito as.

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Speaker 3: A hero's amazing.

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Speaker 12: I hope he serves, you know, he's a great justice.

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Speaker 12: I think that that.

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Speaker 17: I think my guess is, if you're just asking me, like,

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Speaker 17: what does he think? I think he doesn't want what

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Speaker 17: happened to Ruth Bader Ginsburg to happen to him. I

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Speaker 17: think that's the sort of you know, they don't He

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Speaker 17: wants that his seat to be held by a rock

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Speaker 17: rib conservative as long as possible, and to protect his

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Speaker 17: own legacy. My suspicion is that he will. He will

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Speaker 17: probably retire, And I mean, there's a lot of really

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Speaker 17: good people to pick from. I think, you know, mul

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Speaker 17: the Bar is very very good in Kentucky. My personal

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Speaker 17: favorite is probably James Hoe out of the Fifth Circuit

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Speaker 17: and Tech.

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Speaker 3: He's a super.

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Speaker 17: He's a rock star and uh, you know, whip smart,

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Speaker 17: very based. That's exactly the kind of person we want

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Speaker 17: on Supreme Court.

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Speaker 5: You don't think it's going to be another kind of,

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Speaker 5: for lack of a better word, a political justice. Do

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Speaker 5: you think it's somebody who's going to be reliable.

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Speaker 17: That's Leonard Leo's on the outs with the president, so

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Speaker 17: it's sort of like.

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Speaker 12: Movement pick. Yeah. No, I think my boss is you know,

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Speaker 12: probably going to have a little more sway.

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Speaker 5: Oh. I think your boss, Mike Davis is going to

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Speaker 5: have a lot of sway. Tell him, Kirk Schlickter say

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Speaker 5: himself out of contention. I don't want to clutter Okay,

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Speaker 5: I don't want to clutter up the decision making. That's

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Speaker 5: Will Chamberlain of the Article three Project. Those guys do

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Speaker 5: great work. You should check it out and support them

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Speaker 5: because they're the ones fighting for our courts.

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Speaker 3: I'm Kurt Schlickter. This is the Hugh Hewitt Show.

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Speaker 5: Editors from the Great State of Pennsylvania. Saiator David McCormick,

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Speaker 5: and hey, you know, we're both airborn. There see, how

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Speaker 5: are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great?

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Speaker 5: We're both their born, but you're born You saw this

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Speaker 5: chief Slover guy yesterday, Holly cow Don'd you give you

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Speaker 5: a giant inferiority complex?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: He was impressive and the one hundred year old Medal

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Speaker 16: of Honor recipient. I was listening he said he flew

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Speaker 16: his missions in nineteen fifty two. I mean, what a hero,

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Speaker 16: two hundred shots on his plane. I mean, you have

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Speaker 16: two great Americans right there.

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Speaker 3: Well, how about that? How about that young petty officer.

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Speaker 5: Now, you and I have been have had the honor

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Speaker 5: of leading young Americans, and sometimes I don't think Americans

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Speaker 5: fully appreciate just how great our troops are.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 16: And you know the two years ago, three years ago,

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Speaker 16: I think we would have both said our militaries on

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Speaker 16: the verge of collapse. We couldn't get the recruiting numbers.

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Speaker 16: People didn't want to serve. The military. I think had

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Speaker 16: gone down a path where it was woke and had

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Speaker 16: a political agenda. And a year into President Trump's term,

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Speaker 16: we now have the recruiting blowing out the recruiting numbers.

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Speaker 16: More great young Americans want to serve than we have

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Speaker 16: opportunities for. It's the best of America. And I think

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Speaker 16: you and I probably share this of all the things

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Speaker 16: we've done in our lives, probably other than getting marrying

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Speaker 16: our wives and having kids. That's the greatest honor that

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Speaker 16: I ever had, and it's the thing I cherished most

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Speaker 16: in my career.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's you know. I got to tell you.

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Speaker 5: The pride meter was Pagan read yesterday watching those great

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Speaker 5: Americans who are still serving now. Of course, I want

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Speaker 5: to ask you about the state of the Union, but

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Speaker 5: everybody here on the Hue Hewitt Show is curious. Tell

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Speaker 5: us about your relationship with your I'm Acrat, a fellow

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Speaker 5: senator from the Keystone State.

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Speaker 16: Well, we walked into the we walked into the House

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Speaker 16: chamber together last night. He had a suit on, so

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Speaker 16: I was. I told him that I've got the title

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Speaker 16: that my six daughters would never have dreamed possible, the

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Speaker 16: best dress senator from Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: He laughed, He's listen. He campaigned against me.

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Speaker 16: I never really had spoken to him until after I

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Speaker 16: won the election. But we sat down and he said, listen,

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Speaker 16: I've had a near death experience.

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Speaker 4: I'm just here.

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Speaker 16: I don't have any patients for the nonsense. I want

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Speaker 16: to do good things for Pennsylvania. You want to do

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Speaker 16: good things for Pennsylvania, and you know, we we have

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Speaker 16: lots of disagreements, but let's find ways to work together.

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Speaker 16: And sure enough we have done just that. He's been

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Speaker 16: a great partner. He speaks his mind, he speaks with integrity.

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Speaker 16: We both are so committed to the people of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 16: Pennsylvania chose both of us, and we're finding great ways

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Speaker 16: to work together. Whether it's on fentanyl, where we were

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Speaker 16: introduced to joint bill for a joint Task Force and

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Speaker 16: stopping fentanyl, whether it's in keeping the government open, whether

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Speaker 16: it's on fighting against anti Semitism.

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Speaker 4: Whether it's on helping mushroom farmers in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 16: We are lockstep and it's been a great partnership. It's

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Speaker 16: the best surprise I've had since coming to the Senate.

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Speaker 5: Well tell you, you know, I'll tell you of course,

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Speaker 5: the Schlichter family on both sides is straight out of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 5: And you guys are both Selena Zito approved. So you're

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Speaker 5: okay with me. Let's move on to a state of

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Speaker 5: the Union.

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Speaker 16: What'd you think, Listen, I was sitting there just thinking

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Speaker 16: to myself, what a difference a year makes.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. I campaigned with the President across Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 16: We campaigned together fifteen times at rallies in Pennsylvania in

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Speaker 16: twenty and twenty four, and I heard what he said.

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Speaker 16: He promised that he was going to stop the flow

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Speaker 16: legal immigrants across the border, stop the flow of fentanyl,

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Speaker 16: which killed four thousand Pennsylvanians last year, that he was

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Speaker 16: going to embrace energy dominance, put us back on top

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Speaker 16: is the energy power in the world. He said he

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Speaker 16: was going to help working families by bringing great jobs

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Speaker 16: and reducing inflation and getting wages up.

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Speaker 4: All those things have happened. We have made enormous progress.

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Speaker 16: It's not to say people in Pennsylvania are so worried

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Speaker 16: about housing prices or health care.

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Speaker 5: They are.

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Speaker 16: There's still more things to be done, but it's hard

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Speaker 16: to imagine a more consequential year for any president.

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Speaker 4: And the thing I love most is he's doing exactly

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Speaker 4: what he said. He's going to just go down the list,

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Speaker 4: here's what he said.

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Speaker 16: I think part of the reason people are so surprised

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Speaker 16: is politicians so rarely do what they said they're going

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Speaker 16: to do, and he's doing just that. So I was

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Speaker 16: proud of the speech. I thought the Democrats had really

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Speaker 16: no response. I thought, when he put them on the

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Speaker 16: spot on the most basic question of what's most important,

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Speaker 16: not recognizing that their primary responsibilities to stand up and

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Speaker 16: protect America is just shows you how far the Democratic

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Speaker 16: Party has gone astray.

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Speaker 4: And I think the President, you know, did a great job.

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Speaker 16: The final thing, I'll say, nobody does pageantry like like

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Speaker 16: President Trump. I mean, the calls from the gallery, the

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Speaker 16: people that were there, whether it's the military heroes, the

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Speaker 16: hockey team, the Venice Whalen, gentleman who had been in prison.

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Speaker 16: I mean, it was just one great, uplifting surprise after another.

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Speaker 4: So I thought, a great night.

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Speaker 3: Well, Senator Dave McCormick.

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Speaker 5: There are rumors swirling around that Justice Alito, a conservative stallwart,

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Speaker 5: may in fact retire after this session concludes. So you guys,

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Speaker 5: you guys may have a confirmation hearing over this summer.

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Speaker 5: What have you heard about this and what would that

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Speaker 5: look like?

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Speaker 4: You know, honestly, I've not heard that, So you're you're

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Speaker 4: one step ahead of me.

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Speaker 16: I obviously it's the most consequential thing, or one of

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Speaker 16: the most consequential things the president can do. Imagine, despite

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Speaker 16: despite the recent AIPA decision, which of course was was

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Speaker 16: against the President's point of view and against the point

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Speaker 16: of view I had expressed. Putting that aside for a second,

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Speaker 16: imagine had we not had a conservative court. Imagine the

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Speaker 16: various cases that would have been resolved in a different direction.

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Speaker 16: Imagine what would have happened if if those last several

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Speaker 16: nominations have been Joe Biden's nomination. So this is an

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Speaker 16: incredibly consequential moment for the president. And uh if if

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Speaker 16: in fact this happens, uh, you know, I'm I'm optimistic.

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Speaker 16: We'll find a great jurist who's committed to the Constitution

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Speaker 16: and uh, and we'll move us forward.

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Speaker 3: If it does happen.

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Speaker 5: Do you expect your colleagues across the aisle to, uh, well,

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Speaker 5: with the exception of John Fetterman, to pretty much go insane.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, I think there's I think there's a good

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Speaker 16: bit of insanity on the other side. Somebody asked me,

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Speaker 16: you know, I really try hard not to call names

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Speaker 16: of call the you know, the Democrats' names, called individual

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Speaker 16: people names, because I think part of the problem we

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Speaker 16: have is the dehumanizing language, particularly that the left uses

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Speaker 16: in describing political leaders nazeas and so so.

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Speaker 4: I try to. I try to not use that language

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Speaker 4: in general.

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Speaker 16: But somebody asked me a day earlier today on a

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Speaker 16: radio show, Hey, do you think the Democrats are crazy?

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Speaker 16: And I said, listen, anytime you have a political party

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Speaker 16: that consistently is staking out ground on eighty twenty issues

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Speaker 16: with the twenty, yeah, it seems pretty crazy to me.

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Speaker 16: Whether it's shutting down the government, or whether it's on

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Speaker 16: the Save America Act, or whether it's on transgender transitions

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Speaker 16: for minors.

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Speaker 4: The Democrats time and.

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Speaker 16: Again keep embracing positions that are truly radical and outside

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Speaker 16: the mainstream of American political views.

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Speaker 4: So I do think they're crazy.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I really do.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: Senator McCormick, allow me to make you feel old. Thirty

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Speaker 5: five years ago. Right now, you and I were both

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Speaker 5: in the Persian Gulf War. It looks like we are

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Speaker 5: building up forces to an extent we haven't seen since

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Speaker 5: then in the region around Iran. What do you think

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Speaker 5: of the president's policy towards Iran? Would you support a

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Speaker 5: strike designed to change that murderous regime that has so

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Speaker 5: much American blood on its hands. We got about thirty seconds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I support what the President is doing. I

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Speaker 4: think We're tightening the noose.

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Speaker 16: This is a bankrupt regime that poses real threat with

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Speaker 16: the nuclear capability, which we've taken way back, but is

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Speaker 16: a real threat. They've been the terrorist finance, the financer

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Speaker 16: of terrorist activity, and you know, I think the present

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Speaker 16: has a lot of range of options and I suspect

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Speaker 16: to use that wisely. Don't trust the Iranians would be

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Speaker 16: my final word on this. They've proven time and again

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Speaker 16: that they're going to break any agreement. But the Present's

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Speaker 16: got lots of tools at his dispose and I'm hoping

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Speaker 16: we see regime change in the coming weeks and months.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 5: Senator Dave McCormick from the Great State of Pennsylvania, thank

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Speaker 5: you for showing up here on the Hugh Hewitt Show

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Speaker 5: sharing your insights. We appreciate it. I'm guess hos Kurt Schlichter.

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Speaker 5: We still got a lot to come.

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Speaker 3: Stick around. We're back on the Here Hewitt Show.

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Speaker 5: I'm guess Ho's Kurt Schlichter. But you knew that because

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Speaker 5: I'm playing the clash London Calling. Let me ask my

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Speaker 5: next guest, Sarah Bedford watching examiner Poliico and investigative reporter Sarah,

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Speaker 5: you ever heard of the clash.

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Speaker 15: I actually have. I didn't heard that song before, believe

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Speaker 15: it or not.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, let me get us on the oldies station.

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Speaker 15: Does that make me cool?

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Speaker 3: My mom thinks I'm cool. I'll tell you what I thought.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday's Stay of the Union address was exactly what Trump

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Speaker 5: needed to do, and I thought it was very cunning

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Speaker 5: the way he pulled it off.

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Speaker 3: What do you think and what are the people in

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Speaker 3: power in Washington think?

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Speaker 18: Well, it was a good reminder of why Donald Trump

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Speaker 18: won right, Some of these issues that he won on

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Speaker 18: just a little over a year ago have sort of

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Speaker 18: gotten away from him in terms of public opinion. The

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Speaker 18: immigration agenda, for example, had really fallen in popularity because

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Speaker 18: of the way it's been executed in Minneapolis and elsewhere.

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Speaker 15: Just the public had started to get a little squeamish.

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Speaker 18: About the optics of some of these really aggressive deportations.

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Speaker 15: But when Donald Trump lays out.

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Speaker 18: His immigration agenda the way he did last night, it's

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Speaker 18: a reminder to voters why Republicans have retained the advantage

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Speaker 18: on immigration, why Donald Trump has been the leader on

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Speaker 18: this issue, even though Democrats had sort of for years

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Speaker 18: assumed that they as having the more perceived, you know,

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Speaker 18: Hispanic friendly agenda would be the more more popular party

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Speaker 18: on this issue. And it just a reminder that if

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Speaker 18: Donald Trump could really just stick to his core promises

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Speaker 18: about the economy and immigration and not get so swept

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Speaker 18: up in some of the other things that have distracted

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Speaker 18: from his first term agenda, there's no reason why this

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Speaker 18: couldn't be an enormously successful second term for him.

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Speaker 5: Well, Sarah Bedford, we know what the Republicans are going

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Speaker 5: to say about the state of the Union. We know

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Speaker 5: what the Democrats are going to say publicly. What are

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Speaker 5: the Democrats saying privately about how last night went?

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Speaker 18: I do think there's some discomfort among the Democrats about

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Speaker 18: the way members of their party looked heckling Donald Trump

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Speaker 18: in a frankly unhinged.

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Speaker 15: Way at some parts of the State of the Union.

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Speaker 18: That's not something the Democratic congressional leadership wanted to see

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Speaker 18: from their members.

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Speaker 15: There was a sort of ammunition.

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Speaker 18: From House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries for just everyone to

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Speaker 18: cool it and don't.

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Speaker 15: Make us look dumb. And it feeds into the narrative.

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Speaker 18: That Donald Trump has about Congressional demoical I mean, he

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Speaker 18: stood there at the podium and called them crazy and

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Speaker 18: said they're impossible to work with and they're irrational, And

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Speaker 18: then in some ways a few of them sort of

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Speaker 18: proved Donald Trump wright by screaming at him and refusing

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Speaker 18: to stand for the notion that the government should support

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Speaker 18: American citizens over legal immigrants. They sort of played right

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Speaker 18: into Donald Trump's trap. So optically it wasn't a very

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Speaker 18: good night for Democrats.

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Speaker 5: Well, Sarah Bedford, I'm looking at Chuck Schumer, who's obviously

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Speaker 5: very afraid of AOC challenging him. I'm looking at Hakem Jefferies, who,

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Speaker 5: let's put it this way, he's not going to get

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Speaker 5: a Nobel Prize for particle physics anytime soon. And I

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Speaker 5: don't see strong leaders who are able to discipline their

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Speaker 5: wildest out liars. Is that good assessment or am I

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Speaker 5: being a little simplistic?

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Speaker 15: I think that's a great assessment.

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Speaker 18: Do you think Belosi ever would have let that nonsense

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Speaker 18: fly when she was in charge?

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Speaker 15: Definitely not. I mean last year, when she had relinquished

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Speaker 15: control of.

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Speaker 18: Leadership, you had the really embarrassing like auction ping pong

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Speaker 18: paddle thing that the Democrats did during Trump's first join

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Speaker 18: address to Congress, and this time it was all over

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Speaker 18: the place. But Democrats don't have a leader in Congress

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Speaker 18: or really anywhere. And do you see the Democratic base

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Speaker 18: get frustrated at that? And I think the current Democratic

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Speaker 18: congressional leadership reads that as they just want us to

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Speaker 18: be more obstructionist against Donald Trump's agenda. And that's where

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Speaker 18: you see things like the DHS shutdown. That's not necessarily

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Speaker 18: what Democratic voters want to see. They just want to

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Speaker 18: see some sort of strong leadership in Washington. They don't

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Speaker 18: really have that right now.

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Speaker 5: If the Democrats strategy is focus entirely on Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: doesn't that give Donald Trump a lot of power to

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Speaker 5: do what he did yesterday which has come out and

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Speaker 5: as Dwayne Patterson points out his new Hot Air article,

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Speaker 5: just be normal and it totally discombobulates them.

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Speaker 18: I mean, you would think, Kurt, that after over eleven

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Speaker 18: years into Donald Trump on the political stage, Democrats would

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Speaker 18: have learned that the same sort of tactics against Donald Trump,

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Speaker 18: namely losing their minds over every little thing he says

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Speaker 18: and does, even when he says and does popular stuff.

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Speaker 18: That's not a tactic that has worked for Democrats. It's

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Speaker 18: never worked for Democrats when they've tried to make it

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Speaker 18: a character argument against Donald Trump, and they are still

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Speaker 18: pursuing that same route and it's still not working well.

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Speaker 5: Sarah Bedford, you are the political and investigative reporter at

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Speaker 5: the Washington Examiner. People can follow you at Sarah C.

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Speaker 5: Bedford on the Twitter Machine. Thanks for your insights, and

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Speaker 5: I think you guys should stick around because we've got

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Speaker 5: a lot more to come here on the Uuitt Show,

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Speaker 5: including Catherine mary Ham coming up next.

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Speaker 15: But is this the end of.

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Speaker 3: Marry Marry h.

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Speaker 5: If you don't dig the monkeys, you're some kind of communist.

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Speaker 5: I'm Kurt Schlichter, guest hosting for the Great Hugh Hewitt

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Speaker 5: uh and now I've got a regular here on the

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Speaker 5: Hugh Hewitt Show. I've seen her around a lot. She's

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Speaker 5: always in events. I am Mary Catherine Ham. Have we

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Speaker 5: ever actually chatted in person?

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Speaker 6: I think we must have it at some point.

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Speaker 13: By the way, somehow you mystically knew that I am

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Speaker 13: a Monkeys fan.

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Speaker 6: So good job on that.

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Speaker 5: Well that's because you're not a low life, dirty comedy rat.

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Speaker 6: How can you not?

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Speaker 3: How are they not in the Rock and Roll Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame?

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Speaker 15: They're fantastic. David Jones is like my first crush. It

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Speaker 15: was amazing.

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, stepping Stone, I'm a believer hit after

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Speaker 5: last trade to Clarkspill.

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: Well, see, you know you like the Monkeys because you're

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Speaker 5: a normal person. You are really a normy con. I'm

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Speaker 5: a bomb thrower con.

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Speaker 3: I know who I am.

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Speaker 5: You and my pal Guy Benson are normy cons. You

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Speaker 5: you look at things like normal people. You usually don't

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Speaker 5: get angry, though. I think we've seen some angry Guy

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Speaker 5: Benson lately.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And I love your takes on things. I was listening

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Speaker 5: to your podcast with Thick Mattis today and it's so

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Speaker 5: calming and refreshing.

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Speaker 3: To have that car go ahead.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, there's there's plenty of people who will take your

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Speaker 13: blood pressure up, and I'm not always trying to be

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Speaker 13: one of them.

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Speaker 15: I'm occasionally trying to be one of them.

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Speaker 13: My blood pressure has been up at this fake US

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Speaker 13: hockey team controversy this week, but other than that, I'm

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Speaker 13: trying to keep it chill.

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk to you about that, because look,

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Speaker 5: I love getting in a big fight. That's that's great

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Speaker 5: for me. The kind of thing seems to Paine paying you,

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Speaker 5: and you know, the last couple of days, I don't

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Speaker 5: understand it. I think recently the Dems have kind of

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Speaker 5: gone insane. Last week they're taking the side of people

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Speaker 5: who don't like dogs. This week they're coming out against

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Speaker 5: hockey players.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy talk.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 13: I think the bat signal went out about halfway through

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Speaker 13: the day yesterday before the State of the Union on

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Speaker 13: purpose from some left of center figures. Stephanie Cutter and

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Speaker 13: jos Garber were both like, hey, let's not try to

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Speaker 13: cancel the men's gold medal winning hockey team. I don't

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Speaker 13: think that will play well because they knew that Democrats

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Speaker 13: are hearing all from their crazy left wing online.

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Speaker 15: That these these guys are bad now.

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Speaker 13: We've decided they're bad now, and we also don't love

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Speaker 13: the country very much, so let's go against them. And

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Speaker 13: they're afraid that Democrats are going to sit for the

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Speaker 13: gold medal winning hockey team, which is not a good look.

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Speaker 13: But this is where they land because they listen to

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Speaker 13: these online people. And by the way, the controversy is

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Speaker 13: totally made up.

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Speaker 5: Oh it's so much of this stuff is objectively ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: But enough about the eines, the Epstein factor, and it

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Speaker 5: becomes what you accurately called ther in your podcast, the

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Speaker 5: second or the second terms, Russia collusion hoax. It's just

969
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Speaker 5: all ridiculous. But Dwayne has a theory, and I think

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Speaker 5: it's a good theory. And his theory is when Trump's

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Speaker 5: normal and the Democrats look crazy, trump wins. I think

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Speaker 5: yesterday was the start of the national part of the

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Speaker 5: midterm campaign, and I think Trump looked like a normal

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Speaker 5: guy i'd want to hang around with.

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Speaker 15: I agree.

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Speaker 13: I think his way of doing the State of the

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Speaker 13: Union is very good. This like this is your life.

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Speaker 13: Who knows who's going to come through the door? People

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Speaker 13: get excited. I was drawn in my cynical self, even

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Speaker 13: at hour two was watching a one hundred year old

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Speaker 13: deserving Royce Williams get his Medal of Honor and I'm

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Speaker 13: loving it, right, So I think the way he does

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Speaker 13: that is very impressive. I think he fought his worst

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Speaker 13: instincts when he commented on Scotus and he kept it

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Speaker 13: pretty chill, which is good. And then you've got Ilhan

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Speaker 13: Omar yelling at him obsessively while he's really just doing

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Speaker 13: a pretty entertaining speech.

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Speaker 15: So I think that is a dynamic that doesn't play

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Speaker 15: well for the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they looked like lunatics.

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Speaker 5: She got Rashida Talib and Illan Omar there, you know,

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Speaker 5: kind of almost a singularity of stupidity, screaming and yelling

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Speaker 5: like children and Trump. Trump's just basically ignoring them, and

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Speaker 5: then he draws them into the will you stand up

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Speaker 5: to if you love America, stand up and about half

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Speaker 5: the Democrats are like, no, yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 13: Well, and this is one of those things where like

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Speaker 13: as a as a normy Khan and a normy adjacent

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Speaker 13: person because I'm too interested in politics to be actually.

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Speaker 15: Normal, but I am close to it.

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Speaker 13: This is a real concern because what Democrats say and

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Speaker 13: telegraph and explicitly do with their time and work and

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Speaker 13: energy is value citizens who've committed crimes and illegal immigrants

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Speaker 13: over taxpayer, tax paying, law abiding citizens. They tell you

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Speaker 13: all the time what is important to them. They tell

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Speaker 13: you that criminals who attack you should have special treatment

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Speaker 13: and they should get your money, and like this.

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Speaker 15: This is what they do, whether it's welfare benefits or

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Speaker 15: just general leniency in the law.

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Speaker 13: And there are normal people who go, wait a second,

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Speaker 13: what why am I paying it into the system when

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Speaker 13: illegal immigrants are put above my needs.

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Speaker 6: Most of the time.

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Speaker 5: Are these guys running focused grows at the Oberlin Faculty lounge.

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Speaker 5: It's nuts to me now, Like I said, you are

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Speaker 5: saying you are a normal person. You're getting hammered. Podcast

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Speaker 5: is a beacon of sanity.

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Speaker 6: These guys.

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Speaker 5: And I was wondering what you how you thought that

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Speaker 5: these democrats are going to react on a two hundred

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Speaker 5: and fiftieth anniversary year. We have a year of celebrating America,

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Speaker 5: and you're celebrating it with a special series of podcasts.

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Speaker 9: I am.

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Speaker 13: I'm trying to read primary documents from or by the

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Speaker 13: founders every day of the year, as many days as

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Speaker 13: I can find and there's some great stuff in there,

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Speaker 13: like John Adams advising all the citizens to start making

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Speaker 13: saltpeter so we can have massive amounts of gunpowder during

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Speaker 13: the revolution. So if you check out the Getting Hammered

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Speaker 13: feed you will find readings there. But I think this

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Speaker 13: hockey controversy is actually a preview of what the left

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Speaker 13: is going to attempt to drag Democrats into for America

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Speaker 13: to fifty, to say that merely loving your country, celebrating

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Speaker 13: its birthday, being excited about the greatest gift of freedom

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Speaker 13: in the history of humankind is bad and political and trumpy,

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Speaker 13: and that kind of messaging is not good for normal people.

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Speaker 13: Normal people like the country. They don't think it's a

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Speaker 13: scourge upon the earth. They think celebrating its birthday would

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Speaker 13: be fun, just like they think the hockey team is

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Speaker 13: great and fun. And if you are on the opposite

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Speaker 13: side of that, you're doing the wrong thing.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 15: Period.

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Speaker 5: Well look yesterday, you know Donald Trump walks out, Well,

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Speaker 5: actually he had to be helped out because he's recovering

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Speaker 5: from wounds.

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Speaker 15: And you have a.

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Speaker 5: Pilot who looks like he's asked Central Casting if he

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Speaker 5: ripped his uform open, there'll be BIG's there right.

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Speaker 14: Well.

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Speaker 3: Check out Getting Hammered with Mary Katherine Ham. It is

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Speaker 3: a great podcast. It's sticked or approved. We'll be right

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Speaker 3: back on the hug Huit chip