WEBVTT - Minnesota Mob Targets A Church 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:08.039 I'm Josh Hammer and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:11.479 Think about this for a second. If you were trying 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:15.160 to convince the American people that you were so out 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:19.320 to lunch on their days day concerns, on their date day, priorities, 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.160 on their day to day lives, if you were trying 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:26.000 to convince them that you are better than them, and 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:29.560 that you deign and look down upon who they are, 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.320 how they live their lives, the values they hold dear, 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:38.680 the principles to which they subscribe. If this was your goal, 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.240 and to be clear, it should not be your goal, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.600 but if this were to be your goal, you really 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.000 couldn't do a heck of a lot better than what 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:49.839 Don Lemon, Yes, that Don Lemon, the Don Lemon who 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:52.680 was fired from CNN a few years agoing twenty twenty 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:57.280 three for a legend massaging a whole other veritable laundry 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:03.880 list of concerns at Don Lemon leading leading a mini 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:08.160 insurrection at a church in Saint Paul, Minnesota over the weekend. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.319 Just stunning, stunning footage coming out of the church in 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.920 Saint Paul, Minnesota. Really just just rocking the world on Sunday, Minnesota, 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.680 which continues to be ground zero of the broader left 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.720 wing and TIFA, Black Lives Matter, Anti ICE anarchist insurrectionist movement, 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.960 you can even call it that, going back at least 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.080 as far back as the George Floyd riots in the 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:34.880 summer back in twenty twenty, certainly continuing through all of 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.400 the current mayhem as well, and just this latest footage 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.520 is really just astonishing. So without further ado, let's go 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.720 ahead and just just have you watch this clip of 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.160 Don Lemon, of Don Lemon being surrounded by a bunch 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.440 of anti ICE protesters. I don't like the word protester 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.080 here the media uses the word protester. Roland's comment, there, 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.440 these are anarchists. Okay, these are anarchists, these are insurrectionists. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.240 But here they're not even on the sidewalk, just just 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.240 quote unquote peace we demonstrating they are disrupting a Sunday 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.400 church service. Is this America or not? Unbelievable stuff? Go 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:09.280 ahead and watch this, clue, Well, this is the beginning 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:10.320 of what's going to happen here. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.080 When you violate people's due process, when you pull people 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:16.200 off the street and you start dragging them and hurting 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:21.079 them and not abiding by the Constitution. When you start 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.760 doing all of that, people get upset and angry. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:25.600 And if you remember what the. 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:29.799 Civil rights movement is about, the civil rights movement is 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.600 about these very kinds of protests, and for some reason 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.520 in our modern era, people think that in order to 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:40.280 have protests, you got to be you know, coordened off 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.960 to a certain area and you know what time you 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.280 can protest. There's nothing in the constitution that. 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:51.320 Tells you what time you can protest. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:52.440 You can protest at anytime. 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:53.560 That's the whole point of it is to. 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.720 Disrupt, to make uncomfortable. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:59.200 The hutzba, the hutzpa of Don Lemon to cite the 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.359 civil rights today is indeed Martin Luther King Day. I'm 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:06.639 pretty sure he was Reverend Martin Luther King Junior last 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.560 night checked and as a reverend, as one of the 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:15.400 most noted black pastors, black theologians of the second half 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:20.080 of the twentieth century, you have the temerity Don Lemon 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:24.640 to cite him on this long Martin Luther King Junior 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.920 day weekend for the proposition that this is okay, that 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:34.520 disrupting church service is okay. Martin Luther King, the reverend 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:39.520 who appealed to the natural law tradition, who appealed to 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:44.240 the ancient, to the ancient notion advanced by people like 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.080 Saint Augustine and Thomas Aquinas and the Catholic tradition. Martin 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:50.040 Luther King appealed to them in his famous letter from 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:53.120 the Birmingham Jail. This notion that an unjust law is 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.400 no just law. That is Martin Luther King. That is 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.800 him drawing on his faith, on his religion, on his 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.400 Christian background. And you're gonna say that he'd be okay 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.360 with this? What is wrong with you? What is wrong 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:09.240 with you? Don Lemon? By the way, here is he 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.800 with with with the pastor of the church. He had 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.280 the temerity here in this quote unquote interview aka the 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.440 ambush of the pastor of this besieged church in Saint 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.800 Paul Mines. He had he had the clipsbout to say 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:23.600 that Jesus himself would be understanding of what they were 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:24.400 doing to watch this clip. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:25.720 And this is unacceptable. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:26.440 It's shameful. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:32.160 It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:35.040 But there are posts. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.160 I have to take care of my flock to listen. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.400 We live in there's a Constitution in the First Amendment 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:42.960 to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble a protest. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.400 We're here to worship. We're here to worship Jesus because 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.440 that's the hope of these cities, that's the hope of 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:49.640 the world is Jesus Christ. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:50.719 He's very respectable. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:51.520 But please don't push me. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.000 Then we're here. We're here to worship Jesus. That's while 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.119 we're here. Okay, that's why we're here. That's what we're about, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:02.320 which you think Jesus would be understanding. We're about. We're 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:03.640 about spraying the love of Jesus. 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:05.520 But did you try to talk to them as a 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:05.760 as a. 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.240 Person that is willing to call Okay, I have to 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.120 take care of my church, about family. So I asked this, 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.159 you actually would also leave. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:12.640 For this film. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:13.680 You don't want to say. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:16.559 I'm always worship. I'm a Christian. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:17.880 We're here when we're here to worship. 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:18.720 We're here to worship. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:19.960 Okay, thank you very much. 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.159 Okay, So, first of all, the pastor is a heck 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.920 of a lot more respectful than probably I would have 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:29.280 been in that very tense situation. So I give I 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.560 have tremendous respect to actually huge kudos huge props to 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:38.080 the pastor for maintaining composure amidst his own congregation there 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:42.440 in this utterly outrageous situation. Another thing to know, just 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.960 real quick, Don Lemon is saying, there, don't push me. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.880 Did we talk about you storm the church? You am 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.040 pushed the pastor in the middle of Sunday sermon, and 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.160 you're gonna jam a micro on space and say don't 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.960 push me. What what I mean is this a predicate 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.760 for what like a me too lawsuit? Are you kidding me? 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:07.599 A disgusting behavior? I mean the notion that Jesus would 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:13.039 appreciate what these anarchists are doing. Look, I mean I 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:17.640 far be of me to tell Christians how to interpret Christianity, 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.000 the New Testament, etc. As a Jew. But suffice it 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:24.440 to say, I'm pretty sure that respect for the rule 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:29.960 of law is a value of the Biblical inheritance. More generally, 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:32.680 the rule of law is a value that is shared 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.039 by Jews and Christians alike. The notion that anyone who 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:41.120 who opposes anarchy is allows e Christian is ludicrous. And 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.040 I'm not going to get into graphic details for you, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.320 lurid details. I will spare you that, but suffice to 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.080 say that Don Lemon given his personal life, and you 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.520 can go ahead and google those details if you're so inclined. 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.000 I do not suggest him he is not exactly the 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.800 man to talk to here about necessarily trying to preach 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.719 and appeal to Jesus. I guess I will just leave 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.919 it that for now. But Lemon continued his his mini 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.080 g hod, his mini gi hood inside the church while 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:10.760 he was there on Sunday. He didn't just interrogate the pastor. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.560 He also went up to talk to some parishioners as well. 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.680 Here was one and such interaction between Don Lemon and 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.520 Won the parishioners at this besieged church in Saint Paul, 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:19.760 Minnesota on Sunday. 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.920 I don't necessarily agree with everything that's going on in 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.360 that Twin Cities right now, but I don't think it's. 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:25.480 Good to fight fire with fire. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.600 I think it's good to speak up, and I think 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.680 it's good to protest, but I think it's better to 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.640 do it in a peaceful way. I don't think the 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.120 answer is going into God's church. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:34.840 You don't think this is peaceful. 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:38.320 Trespassing. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:40.600 How do you feel if I went to your house 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:41.560 and I started yelling. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.080 It depends on what I did. But not in my house. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.040 That's a whole different thing. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.560 I think these people would go inside of anybody's town. 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:53.000 This is the house of God, which everybody's time, Yes 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.680 it is. But in the house, people don't yell at 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:56.080 each other. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.600 Yeah, there's a lot of yelling in my house growing up. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:00.720 Were still love each other. 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.400 Yeah, but that. 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:05.040 Doesn't necessarily mean the a yelling is the answer. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.480 Right, So the prishioners, the pastor very well spoken clearly. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:12.040 This is a church with some decently smart people who 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:15.240 know exactly what they are talking about. Because this is trespassing. 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:17.800 This is trespassing. One on one. You do not have 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.640 a First Amendment right. First of all, to the extent 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.080 the First Amendment is applicable in this situation all, it 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.720 has nothing to do with Don Lemon and his fellow 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:30.080 mini anarchists, many insurrectionary attempts to bombard a private residence 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.680 and to speak their minds. That is not that's not 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:36.240 the First Amendment. That's trespassing, to the extent that the 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.440 First Amendments has anything to do with this conversation. The 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:43.680 First Amendments actually is of the worshippers because guess what, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.640 don Lemon. That whole religion thing is a pretty big 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.600 part of the First Amendment. We have two religion clauses, 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.839 including the free exercise clause. That's what that pastor and 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.960 these parishioners were doing when you interrupted them. Why did 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.280 they do this, by the way, they allegedly did because 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.360 the thought process was that the pastor, who you just 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:08.240 saw there in that ambush interview, they thought, allegedly allegedly 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:13.600 that the pastor was had ties to Ice, and apparently 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.160 he does not. They thought that he was a former 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:19.800 ice and enforcement officer. They were able to draw some 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:25.080 purported connection in their utterly stupid, little puny minds between 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:28.840 this pastor and Ice. And it turns out, as far 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.680 as we can tell here and base on all I've read, 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:33.440 that there is actually no connection to be drawn here whatsoever. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.679 So the question at this point, watching this horrific footage 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.880 and just watching the extends to which the anarchy insurrection 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.720 in Minnesotatin used, the question that remains is twofold. One 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.640 is is Donald Trump going to actually invoke the Insurrection Act, 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:49.920 this eighteen oh seven Thomas Jefferson era statute that allows 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:54.120 to actually deploy the federal military for domestic law enforcement purposes, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.040 and that context, it is a dispensation and exception to 0:09:57.080 --> 0:09:59.719 the general rule that the military cannot be used for 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.840 some such domestic law enforcement purposes. There is a reconstruction 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:06.240 Aeris statue called the Possive Commititatus Acts that generally prohibits 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.240 the military for such use. The Insurrection Act is an 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.319 exception or from that rule. I think the answer to that, frankly, 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.080 is a resounding yes. Donald Trump at this point is 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.679 overdue to invoke the Insurrection Act and send in the 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.360 military to Minneapolis. We will certainly ask our guest on 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.600 tomorrow's show, Mike Davis, Mike Colley, get the article three Productabile, 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.400 get his thoughts on that very question. Another question right 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.440 now is what's going to happen to Don Lemon? What's't 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.679 happened to Don Lemon and these various protesters. Well, it 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.400 turns out that Harmei Dillon, who is the Assistant Attorney 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:37.400 General in the Office of Civil Rights, she's been doing 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.520 really just utterly amazing work in that particular respect. She 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.040 has been now making media rounds on social media saying 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:47.120 that Civil Rights is well aware of the potential violations 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.680 of the Federal Face Act, and that they are going 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.480 to be initiating potential indictments here. They will sive whether 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.719 not there are criminal referrals to be had as a 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.640 result of this, and there should be because the Face Act, 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.040 otherwise known as the Freedom of Act Access to Clinic 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:04.040 Entrances Act, is a bill Clinton Erra statute from that 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.880 ninety four that prohibits the use of physical force or 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.240 physical obstruction to intimidate or interfere with those who are 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:14.000 trying to access a house of worship or inside a 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:17.640 house of warship to actually worship, to actually pray. That's 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.160 literally what happens here. They are using physical force, they 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.959 are intimidating, interfering with people engaging in the free exercise 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.800 of religion. You can't do that, You absolutely, absolutely cannot 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.480 do that. So I want to see Face Act prosecutions here. Frankly, 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:33.559 I want to see Don Lemon Purp walked. I want 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:36.240 to see Don lemn Purp walked mugshot on a face 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.360 app Because you can't do this. They use the same 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.520 statue to prosecute and try to lock up the pro 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.839 life grannies peacefully protesting outside of abortion clinics. You can't 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:49.079 do that. Meet fire with fire for God's sake. I 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.319 want to see those indictments here. Get Don Lemon on 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.600 the face act, get him off the jail. Frankly, if 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.720 convicted here sooner and later. This is disgusting, disgusting stuff. Unfortunately, 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.800 the leftiet again showing what it truly believes. 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So, as I was saying, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.360 the whole Greenland conversation really seems to be heating up, 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.920 I'll tell you that I do obviously speaking events right. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.679 So I actually just got back very very late last night. 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:41.240 I'm not sure if you can see to my high 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.440 spy got back very late last night from New York City, 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.160 where I was doing an event for the Tikfa Fund, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:53.079 a conservative Jewish organization, on Sunday, speaking to some college students, 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:56.719 and actually flying out tonight to Los Angeles to do 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.800 an event out there tomorrow. Back on Wednesday and last week, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.599 I actually was called to pinch hit last minute for 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.400 an event in Palm Beach, Florida, not terribly far from 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.360 where I live. This was a joint event between the 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.559 Palm Beach Freedom Institutes, where I'm a fellow, and the 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.520 Claremont Institute, the well known conservative think tank where I 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:18.320 was a fellow many years ago. Long story short. Michael 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.720 Anton perhaps best known as the author of the Flight 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.400 ninety three election essay back in twenty sixteen. He has 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.840 most recently been serving as the director of Policy Planning 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.400 at the US State Department. He was the lead author 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:35.240 of the excellent National Security Strategy document that came out 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:36.840 about a month and a half ago. So he was 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.920 supposed to do this event in Palm Beach. He had 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.240 a serious flight delay. Long story short. I was called 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.640 in to pinch hit, along with a few others there 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.680 at this event in Palm Beach, and the event was 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.520 basically about national security strategy for the administration, foreign policy 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.760 more generally. And I was really surprised that after our 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:57.040 joint presentation all of us there there were four of us, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:02.640 the crowd really wanted to talk most about Greenland. They 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.880 were less interested in Venezuela. They were less interested in Iran, 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:09.360 they were less interested in Russia Ukraine. I mean, there 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.680 are questions on that, but they really really want to 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.040 talk about Greenland. So the Greenland thing is seriously, really 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.840 really heating up. The most recent indication that it's heating 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:22.960 up actually just came earlier today on Monday, January nineteenth. 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.600 So Donald Trump writing in a letter to Norway in 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.880 a formal White House letter head to Norway, he's kind 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:33.640 of he's tying together the Nobel Peace Prize, for which 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.200 she was snubbed for Machado of Venezuela, and he still 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.600 continues to be very upset about that. So Norway gives 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.800 out the Nobel Prize. So he's now tied together the 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.880 Nobel Peace Prize thing. His to his demonstration of defiance 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.000 when it comes to the European quote unquote powers, including 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.520 this again the Naviian countries trying to support their Danish 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:57.200 colleagues and sending some some token, perfunctory true presence to Greenland. 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.880 So Donald Trump, in this letter to Norway says, quote, 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:02.320 considering your country decide not to give me the Nobel 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:05.360 Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars, I no longer 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.600 feel an obligation to think purely of peace, although it 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.120 will always be predominant. But now I can think about 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.480 what is good and proper for the United States of America. 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:18.080 Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China. And 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:21.800 why do they have a right of ownership anyway, et cetera, 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:24.440 et cetera. The world is not secure unless we have 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:29.120 complete and total control of Greenland. So Donald Trump really 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.680 escalating the rhetoric when it comes it comes to Greenland. 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:36.760 And you know, really, he's he's frankly not the only one. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.800 He's not the only one who is now making this 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.880 argument when it comes to Greenland. It was actually Senator 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.920 Ted Cruz, who historically for the past decade has at 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.200 times had an on an offingham relationship with Trump, typically on, 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:53.280 but he's come outed a very robust, strong supporter of 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.760 the United States' strong interest in acquiring the island of Greenland, 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.720 the largest island in the world. So here was Center 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:02.960 Tech crews of Texas going hard, going hard in the paint. 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.159 As they say, for Donald Trump's green the prosal on 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:06.560 Fox Business, go ahead and watch this. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:11.520 I believe it is overwhelmingly in America's national interest to 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:12.760 acquire Greenland. 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:13.760 A year ago, as. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.720 Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, I chaired a hearing 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:20.000 on the benefits to the United States of America of 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.080 acquiring Greenland. Now, some folks in the press, they clutch 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:24.920 their pearls and they say, well, what do you mean, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:25.840 acquiring Greenland? 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:26.680 How could that happen? 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.720 Look, the whole history of America has been a history 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.800 of acquiring new lands and new territories. Whether you go 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.720 back to Thomas Jefferson making the Louisiana purchase about half 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:39.080 of the United States of America today, or you go 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.240 back to America purchasing Alaska from Russia. You want to 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:45.720 talk about. At the time, they called it Seward's folly. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:50.320 It turned out to be an extraordinarily consequential purchase. Greenland 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:54.000 has massive rare earth minerals and critical minerals. There are 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:58.280 enormous economic benefits to America. But it's also, like Alaska, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.359 it is located on the which is a major theater 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:06.080 for potential military conflict with either Russia or China. It's 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.639 also critical for the Golden Dome and defending America for 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:10.760 potential missial struck. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:13.760 So everything that Ted Cruiser said there is emphatically correct, 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.640 but it's kind of funny that he actually mentioned William Sewer. 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.879 William Seward, who was the Abraham Lincoln era Secretary of 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.760 State who famously acquired Alaska. He was ridiculed for it 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:25.080 ends up being an amazing purchase. You know, as far 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.119 back as eighteen sixty seven, William Seue was actually the 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:33.040 first American statesman who at least made preliminary explorations about 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:37.040 acquiring the territory of Greenland. And then nineteen forty six, 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.800 just one year one year after the end of World 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:45.000 War Two, Harry Truman. Harry Truman actually formerly offered one 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.280 hundred million dollars to Denmark to acquire Greenland. At the time, 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:52.399 President Truman, who was a Democrat last sight checks, President 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:55.520 Truman argued that the island was quote indispensable to the 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.120 safety of the United States in confronting what was then 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.280 the emerging Stalinist so be it threat from the Kremlin. 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.280 So this is the exact same argument that Ted Cruz 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.400 and Don Trumper mak It's day. They're arguing that Greenland 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.720 is now indispensable when it comes to American national security 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.880 in the twenty first century, not just the Truman error 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.879 argument against the Soviet Union. Now it's also true for 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:21.040 Lamar Pudin era of Russia, but even more so China, Folks, 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.639 Greenland is the largest country in the world, in the world, 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.080 and it very much fits in to this new Donro doctrine, 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.320 to this new Donald Trump Western Hemisphere assertion, Western Hemisphere, 0:19:33.400 --> 0:19:37.600 hemispheric priority, hemispheric dominance doctrine that was part of the 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:42.959 Michael Anton drafted national security strategy. It's the exact same rational, 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.440 at least to that extent, that helps justify the law 0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:51.080 enforcement operation to get Nicholas Manduro in Venezuela earlier this month. 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.720 By the way, the United States not only has a 0:19:54.840 --> 0:19:57.879 history of territorial acquisition in which Ted Cruz was alluding 0:19:57.880 --> 0:19:59.840 to there when it comes to Alaska from Russia, when 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:03.520 it comes to Florida from Spain, the attam On East Treaty, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.320 when it comes to the Gaston purchase. We've done this 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:08.760 so many times there. Jino was one of the last 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:13.480 major acts of American territorial expansionism. It's only acquired the 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.920 US Virgin Islands. Actually, that was a treaty in nineteen sixteen, 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:21.520 negotiated by another Democrat, Woodrow Wilson. That treaty was between 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:26.560 the United States and oh yeah, Denmark. The Treaty of 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.080 the Danish West Indies was a formal treaty ratified on 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.040 August fourth, nineteen sixteen, between the United States and Denmark, 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.080 by which the United States acquired what was then known 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.720 as the Danish West Indies from Denmark for a sum 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.440 of twenty five million dollars in gold. Now that would 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:45.520 be over seven hundred million dollars. Back then it was 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.480 only twenty five million dollars. That's actually one of the 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.840 most recent territorial expansions in American history. And fighting off 0:20:50.880 --> 0:20:52.680 it literally happens to be from the same country from 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.280 the Danes. Now, look over the past few days, the 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:57.840