1 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Think about this for a second. If you were trying 3 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: to convince the American people that you were so out 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: to lunch on their days day concerns, on their date day, priorities, 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: on their day to day lives, if you were trying 6 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: to convince them that you are better than them, and 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: that you deign and look down upon who they are, 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: how they live their lives, the values they hold dear, 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: the principles to which they subscribe. If this was your goal, 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: and to be clear, it should not be your goal, 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: but if this were to be your goal, you really 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: couldn't do a heck of a lot better than what 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Don Lemon, Yes, that Don Lemon, the Don Lemon who 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: was fired from CNN a few years agoing twenty twenty 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: three for a legend massaging a whole other veritable laundry 16 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: list of concerns at Don Lemon leading leading a mini 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: insurrection at a church in Saint Paul, Minnesota over the weekend. 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Just stunning, stunning footage coming out of the church in 19 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Saint Paul, Minnesota. Really just just rocking the world on Sunday, Minnesota, 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: which continues to be ground zero of the broader left 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: wing and TIFA, Black Lives Matter, Anti ICE anarchist insurrectionist movement, 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: you can even call it that, going back at least 23 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: as far back as the George Floyd riots in the 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: summer back in twenty twenty, certainly continuing through all of 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: the current mayhem as well, and just this latest footage 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: is really just astonishing. So without further ado, let's go 27 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: ahead and just just have you watch this clip of 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Don Lemon, of Don Lemon being surrounded by a bunch 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: of anti ICE protesters. I don't like the word protester 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: here the media uses the word protester. Roland's comment, there, 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: these are anarchists. Okay, these are anarchists, these are insurrectionists. 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: But here they're not even on the sidewalk, just just 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: quote unquote peace we demonstrating they are disrupting a Sunday 34 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: church service. Is this America or not? Unbelievable stuff? Go 35 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: ahead and watch this, clue, Well, this is the beginning 36 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: of what's going to happen here. 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: When you violate people's due process, when you pull people 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: off the street and you start dragging them and hurting 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: them and not abiding by the Constitution. When you start 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: doing all of that, people get upset and angry. 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: And if you remember what the. 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 2: Civil rights movement is about, the civil rights movement is 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: about these very kinds of protests, and for some reason 44 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: in our modern era, people think that in order to 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: have protests, you got to be you know, coordened off 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 2: to a certain area and you know what time you 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: can protest. There's nothing in the constitution that. 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Tells you what time you can protest. 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: You can protest at anytime. 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: That's the whole point of it is to. 51 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: Disrupt, to make uncomfortable. 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: The hutzba, the hutzpa of Don Lemon to cite the 53 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: civil rights today is indeed Martin Luther King Day. I'm 54 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: pretty sure he was Reverend Martin Luther King Junior last 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: night checked and as a reverend, as one of the 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: most noted black pastors, black theologians of the second half 57 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, you have the temerity Don Lemon 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: to cite him on this long Martin Luther King Junior 59 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: day weekend for the proposition that this is okay, that 60 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: disrupting church service is okay. Martin Luther King, the reverend 61 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: who appealed to the natural law tradition, who appealed to 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: the ancient, to the ancient notion advanced by people like 63 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: Saint Augustine and Thomas Aquinas and the Catholic tradition. Martin 64 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: Luther King appealed to them in his famous letter from 65 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: the Birmingham Jail. This notion that an unjust law is 66 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: no just law. That is Martin Luther King. That is 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: him drawing on his faith, on his religion, on his 68 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Christian background. And you're gonna say that he'd be okay 69 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: with this? What is wrong with you? What is wrong 70 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: with you? Don Lemon? By the way, here is he 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: with with with the pastor of the church. He had 72 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: the temerity here in this quote unquote interview aka the 73 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: ambush of the pastor of this besieged church in Saint 74 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: Paul Mines. He had he had the clipsbout to say 75 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: that Jesus himself would be understanding of what they were 76 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: doing to watch this clip. 77 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: And this is unacceptable. 78 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: It's shameful. 79 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship. 80 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: But there are posts. 81 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 3: I have to take care of my flock to listen. 82 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: We live in there's a Constitution in the First Amendment 83 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble a protest. 84 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: We're here to worship. We're here to worship Jesus because 85 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: that's the hope of these cities, that's the hope of 86 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: the world is Jesus Christ. 87 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: He's very respectable. 88 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: But please don't push me. 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: Then we're here. We're here to worship Jesus. That's while 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 3: we're here. Okay, that's why we're here. That's what we're about, 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: which you think Jesus would be understanding. We're about. We're 92 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: about spraying the love of Jesus. 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: But did you try to talk to them as a 94 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: as a. 95 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 3: Person that is willing to call Okay, I have to 96 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: take care of my church, about family. So I asked this, 97 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: you actually would also leave. 98 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: For this film. 99 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: You don't want to say. 100 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,559 Speaker 2: I'm always worship. I'm a Christian. 101 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: We're here when we're here to worship. 102 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: We're here to worship. 103 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much. 104 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: Okay, So, first of all, the pastor is a heck 105 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: of a lot more respectful than probably I would have 106 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: been in that very tense situation. So I give I 107 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: have tremendous respect to actually huge kudos huge props to 108 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: the pastor for maintaining composure amidst his own congregation there 109 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: in this utterly outrageous situation. Another thing to know, just 110 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: real quick, Don Lemon is saying, there, don't push me. 111 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: Did we talk about you storm the church? You am 112 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: pushed the pastor in the middle of Sunday sermon, and 113 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna jam a micro on space and say don't 114 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: push me. What what I mean is this a predicate 115 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: for what like a me too lawsuit? Are you kidding me? 116 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: A disgusting behavior? I mean the notion that Jesus would 117 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: appreciate what these anarchists are doing. Look, I mean I 118 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: far be of me to tell Christians how to interpret Christianity, 119 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: the New Testament, etc. As a Jew. But suffice it 120 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: to say, I'm pretty sure that respect for the rule 121 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: of law is a value of the Biblical inheritance. More generally, 122 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: the rule of law is a value that is shared 123 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: by Jews and Christians alike. The notion that anyone who 124 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: who opposes anarchy is allows e Christian is ludicrous. And 125 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into graphic details for you, 126 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: lurid details. I will spare you that, but suffice to 127 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: say that Don Lemon given his personal life, and you 128 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: can go ahead and google those details if you're so inclined. 129 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: I do not suggest him he is not exactly the 130 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: man to talk to here about necessarily trying to preach 131 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: and appeal to Jesus. I guess I will just leave 132 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: it that for now. But Lemon continued his his mini 133 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: g hod, his mini gi hood inside the church while 134 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: he was there on Sunday. He didn't just interrogate the pastor. 135 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: He also went up to talk to some parishioners as well. 136 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Here was one and such interaction between Don Lemon and 137 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Won the parishioners at this besieged church in Saint Paul, 138 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Minnesota on Sunday. 139 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: I don't necessarily agree with everything that's going on in 140 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 4: that Twin Cities right now, but I don't think it's. 141 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: Good to fight fire with fire. 142 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: I think it's good to speak up, and I think 143 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: it's good to protest, but I think it's better to 144 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: do it in a peaceful way. I don't think the 145 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: answer is going into God's church. 146 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: You don't think this is peaceful. 147 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: Trespassing. 148 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: How do you feel if I went to your house 149 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: and I started yelling. 150 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: It depends on what I did. But not in my house. 151 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: That's a whole different thing. 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: I think these people would go inside of anybody's town. 153 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: This is the house of God, which everybody's time, Yes 154 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: it is. But in the house, people don't yell at 155 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 4: each other. 156 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of yelling in my house growing up. 157 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 4: Were still love each other. 158 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that. 159 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 4: Doesn't necessarily mean the a yelling is the answer. 160 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Right, So the prishioners, the pastor very well spoken clearly. 161 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: This is a church with some decently smart people who 162 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: know exactly what they are talking about. Because this is trespassing. 163 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: This is trespassing. One on one. You do not have 164 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: a First Amendment right. First of all, to the extent 165 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: the First Amendment is applicable in this situation all, it 166 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with Don Lemon and his fellow 167 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: mini anarchists, many insurrectionary attempts to bombard a private residence 168 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: and to speak their minds. That is not that's not 169 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. That's trespassing, to the extent that the 170 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: First Amendments has anything to do with this conversation. The 171 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: First Amendments actually is of the worshippers because guess what, 172 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: don Lemon. That whole religion thing is a pretty big 173 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: part of the First Amendment. We have two religion clauses, 174 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: including the free exercise clause. That's what that pastor and 175 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: these parishioners were doing when you interrupted them. Why did 176 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: they do this, by the way, they allegedly did because 177 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: the thought process was that the pastor, who you just 178 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: saw there in that ambush interview, they thought, allegedly allegedly 179 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: that the pastor was had ties to Ice, and apparently 180 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: he does not. They thought that he was a former 181 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: ice and enforcement officer. They were able to draw some 182 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: purported connection in their utterly stupid, little puny minds between 183 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: this pastor and Ice. And it turns out, as far 184 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: as we can tell here and base on all I've read, 185 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: that there is actually no connection to be drawn here whatsoever. 186 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: So the question at this point, watching this horrific footage 187 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: and just watching the extends to which the anarchy insurrection 188 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: in Minnesotatin used, the question that remains is twofold. One 189 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: is is Donald Trump going to actually invoke the Insurrection Act, 190 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: this eighteen oh seven Thomas Jefferson era statute that allows 191 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: to actually deploy the federal military for domestic law enforcement purposes, 192 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: and that context, it is a dispensation and exception to 193 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: the general rule that the military cannot be used for 194 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: some such domestic law enforcement purposes. There is a reconstruction 195 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: Aeris statue called the Possive Commititatus Acts that generally prohibits 196 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: the military for such use. The Insurrection Act is an 197 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: exception or from that rule. I think the answer to that, frankly, 198 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: is a resounding yes. Donald Trump at this point is 199 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: overdue to invoke the Insurrection Act and send in the 200 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: military to Minneapolis. We will certainly ask our guest on 201 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: tomorrow's show, Mike Davis, Mike Colley, get the article three Productabile, 202 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: get his thoughts on that very question. Another question right 203 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: now is what's going to happen to Don Lemon? What's't 204 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: happened to Don Lemon and these various protesters. Well, it 205 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: turns out that Harmei Dillon, who is the Assistant Attorney 206 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: General in the Office of Civil Rights, she's been doing 207 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: really just utterly amazing work in that particular respect. She 208 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: has been now making media rounds on social media saying 209 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: that Civil Rights is well aware of the potential violations 210 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: of the Federal Face Act, and that they are going 211 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: to be initiating potential indictments here. They will sive whether 212 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: not there are criminal referrals to be had as a 213 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: result of this, and there should be because the Face Act, 214 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: otherwise known as the Freedom of Act Access to Clinic 215 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Entrances Act, is a bill Clinton Erra statute from that 216 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: ninety four that prohibits the use of physical force or 217 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: physical obstruction to intimidate or interfere with those who are 218 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: trying to access a house of worship or inside a 219 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: house of warship to actually worship, to actually pray. That's 220 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: literally what happens here. They are using physical force, they 221 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: are intimidating, interfering with people engaging in the free exercise 222 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: of religion. You can't do that, You absolutely, absolutely cannot 223 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: do that. So I want to see Face Act prosecutions here. Frankly, 224 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: I want to see Don Lemon Purp walked. I want 225 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: to see Don lemn Purp walked mugshot on a face 226 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: app Because you can't do this. They use the same 227 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: statue to prosecute and try to lock up the pro 228 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: life grannies peacefully protesting outside of abortion clinics. You can't 229 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: do that. Meet fire with fire for God's sake. I 230 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: want to see those indictments here. Get Don Lemon on 231 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: the face act, get him off the jail. Frankly, if 232 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: convicted here sooner and later. This is disgusting, disgusting stuff. Unfortunately, 233 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: the leftiet again showing what it truly believes. Stay well 234 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: us dough the break, I'm Josh Hammer. We'll be right back, 235 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Lots else going on, although I really really 236 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: really really do want to see Don lem Purp walked 237 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: there with that face act indictment and subsequent prosecution. We 238 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: will see if it happens. Lots more going on. 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So, as I was saying, 264 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: the whole Greenland conversation really seems to be heating up, 265 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that I do obviously speaking events right. 266 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: So I actually just got back very very late last night. 267 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you can see to my high 268 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: spy got back very late last night from New York City, 269 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: where I was doing an event for the Tikfa Fund, 270 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: a conservative Jewish organization, on Sunday, speaking to some college students, 271 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 1: and actually flying out tonight to Los Angeles to do 272 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: an event out there tomorrow. Back on Wednesday and last week, 273 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: I actually was called to pinch hit last minute for 274 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: an event in Palm Beach, Florida, not terribly far from 275 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: where I live. This was a joint event between the 276 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: Palm Beach Freedom Institutes, where I'm a fellow, and the 277 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Claremont Institute, the well known conservative think tank where I 278 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: was a fellow many years ago. Long story short. Michael 279 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Anton perhaps best known as the author of the Flight 280 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: ninety three election essay back in twenty sixteen. He has 281 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: most recently been serving as the director of Policy Planning 282 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: at the US State Department. He was the lead author 283 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: of the excellent National Security Strategy document that came out 284 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: about a month and a half ago. So he was 285 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: supposed to do this event in Palm Beach. He had 286 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: a serious flight delay. Long story short. I was called 287 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: in to pinch hit, along with a few others there 288 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: at this event in Palm Beach, and the event was 289 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: basically about national security strategy for the administration, foreign policy 290 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: more generally. And I was really surprised that after our 291 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: joint presentation all of us there there were four of us, 292 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: the crowd really wanted to talk most about Greenland. They 293 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: were less interested in Venezuela. They were less interested in Iran, 294 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: they were less interested in Russia Ukraine. I mean, there 295 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: are questions on that, but they really really want to 296 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: talk about Greenland. So the Greenland thing is seriously, really 297 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: really heating up. The most recent indication that it's heating 298 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: up actually just came earlier today on Monday, January nineteenth. 299 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: So Donald Trump writing in a letter to Norway in 300 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: a formal White House letter head to Norway, he's kind 301 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: of he's tying together the Nobel Peace Prize, for which 302 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: she was snubbed for Machado of Venezuela, and he still 303 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: continues to be very upset about that. So Norway gives 304 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: out the Nobel Prize. So he's now tied together the 305 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize thing. His to his demonstration of defiance 306 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to the European quote unquote powers, including 307 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: this again the Naviian countries trying to support their Danish 308 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: colleagues and sending some some token, perfunctory true presence to Greenland. 309 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: So Donald Trump, in this letter to Norway says, quote, 310 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: considering your country decide not to give me the Nobel 311 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Peace Prize for having stopped eight wars, I no longer 312 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: feel an obligation to think purely of peace, although it 313 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: will always be predominant. But now I can think about 314 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: what is good and proper for the United States of America. 315 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China. And 316 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: why do they have a right of ownership anyway, et cetera, 317 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: et cetera. The world is not secure unless we have 318 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: complete and total control of Greenland. So Donald Trump really 319 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: escalating the rhetoric when it comes it comes to Greenland. 320 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: And you know, really, he's he's frankly not the only one. 321 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: He's not the only one who is now making this 322 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: argument when it comes to Greenland. It was actually Senator 323 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: Ted Cruz, who historically for the past decade has at 324 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: times had an on an offingham relationship with Trump, typically on, 325 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: but he's come outed a very robust, strong supporter of 326 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: the United States' strong interest in acquiring the island of Greenland, 327 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: the largest island in the world. So here was Center 328 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Tech crews of Texas going hard, going hard in the paint. 329 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: As they say, for Donald Trump's green the prosal on 330 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Fox Business, go ahead and watch this. 331 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 6: I believe it is overwhelmingly in America's national interest to 332 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: acquire Greenland. 333 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: A year ago, as. 334 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 6: Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, I chaired a hearing 335 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 6: on the benefits to the United States of America of 336 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 6: acquiring Greenland. Now, some folks in the press, they clutch 337 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 6: their pearls and they say, well, what do you mean, 338 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 6: acquiring Greenland? 339 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: How could that happen? 340 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 6: Look, the whole history of America has been a history 341 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 6: of acquiring new lands and new territories. Whether you go 342 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 6: back to Thomas Jefferson making the Louisiana purchase about half 343 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 6: of the United States of America today, or you go 344 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 6: back to America purchasing Alaska from Russia. You want to 345 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 6: talk about. At the time, they called it Seward's folly. 346 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 6: It turned out to be an extraordinarily consequential purchase. Greenland 347 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 6: has massive rare earth minerals and critical minerals. There are 348 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 6: enormous economic benefits to America. But it's also, like Alaska, 349 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 6: it is located on the which is a major theater 350 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 6: for potential military conflict with either Russia or China. It's 351 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 6: also critical for the Golden Dome and defending America for 352 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 6: potential missial struck. 353 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: So everything that Ted Cruiser said there is emphatically correct, 354 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: but it's kind of funny that he actually mentioned William Sewer. 355 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: William Seward, who was the Abraham Lincoln era Secretary of 356 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: State who famously acquired Alaska. He was ridiculed for it 357 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: ends up being an amazing purchase. You know, as far 358 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: back as eighteen sixty seven, William Seue was actually the 359 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: first American statesman who at least made preliminary explorations about 360 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: acquiring the territory of Greenland. And then nineteen forty six, 361 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: just one year one year after the end of World 362 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: War Two, Harry Truman. Harry Truman actually formerly offered one 363 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars to Denmark to acquire Greenland. At the time, 364 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: President Truman, who was a Democrat last sight checks, President 365 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: Truman argued that the island was quote indispensable to the 366 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: safety of the United States in confronting what was then 367 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: the emerging Stalinist so be it threat from the Kremlin. 368 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: So this is the exact same argument that Ted Cruz 369 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: and Don Trumper mak It's day. They're arguing that Greenland 370 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: is now indispensable when it comes to American national security 371 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: in the twenty first century, not just the Truman error 372 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: argument against the Soviet Union. Now it's also true for 373 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: Lamar Pudin era of Russia, but even more so China, Folks, 374 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: Greenland is the largest country in the world, in the world, 375 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: and it very much fits in to this new Donro doctrine, 376 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: to this new Donald Trump Western Hemisphere assertion, Western Hemisphere, 377 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: hemispheric priority, hemispheric dominance doctrine that was part of the 378 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:42,959 Speaker 1: Michael Anton drafted national security strategy. It's the exact same rational, 379 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: at least to that extent, that helps justify the law 380 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: enforcement operation to get Nicholas Manduro in Venezuela earlier this month. 381 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: By the way, the United States not only has a 382 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: history of territorial acquisition in which Ted Cruz was alluding 383 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: to there when it comes to Alaska from Russia, when 384 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: it comes to Florida from Spain, the attam On East Treaty, 385 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Gaston purchase. We've done this 386 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: so many times there. Jino was one of the last 387 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: major acts of American territorial expansionism. It's only acquired the 388 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: US Virgin Islands. Actually, that was a treaty in nineteen sixteen, 389 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: negotiated by another Democrat, Woodrow Wilson. That treaty was between 390 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: the United States and oh yeah, Denmark. The Treaty of 391 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: the Danish West Indies was a formal treaty ratified on 392 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: August fourth, nineteen sixteen, between the United States and Denmark, 393 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: by which the United States acquired what was then known 394 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: as the Danish West Indies from Denmark for a sum 395 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: of twenty five million dollars in gold. Now that would 396 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: be over seven hundred million dollars. Back then it was 397 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: only twenty five million dollars. That's actually one of the 398 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: most recent territorial expansions in American history. And fighting off 399 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: it literally happens to be from the same country from 400 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: the Danes. Now, look over the past few days, the 401 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: European powers have pretended to be really really mad, and 402 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: they're sending some troops over to Greenlands. By the way, 403 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: these troops, you know, as a friend might put it 404 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: on social media. They're basically just a LARPing. It's a 405 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: live action role play in real time. They're sending literally 406 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: single to low double digit numbers of troops. So these 407 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: countries like Sweden and Norway, the UK, France, Germany, they're 408 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: sending anywhere from five to fifteen. What are you, guys, 409 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: trying to defend against a dog sled? Are you literally 410 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: trying to defend against America? Maybe Kana sending some dogsledters 411 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: to invade the island. Look, Donald Trump is not going 412 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: to use military force. Okay, stop clutching your pearls. This 413 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: is just the art of the deal. It's deal making 414 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: one oh one. You speak very aggressively, you potentially act 415 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: at the odds very aggressively, and then you negotiate and 416 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: you come up with a compromise position. Denmark doesn't need 417 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: Greenlands in fact, in fact, they have very ample reason 418 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: to not even want it. Trump wants it. He's correct 419 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: on it, He's negotiating hard. I think he's going to 420 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: get it. I predict in the next few years Greenland, 421 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: frankly will be American terrority. I'm Josh AMers take by 422 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: us with the break folks, we'll be right back. Welcome back. 423 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: Just a final thoughts on Greenland before we move on 424 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: to other topics of the day. At this event in 425 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: Palm Beach that I mentioned before the break that I 426 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: was pinch hitting for Michael Anton for last week, we 427 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: were discussing the national security strategy they came out to 428 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: about a month and a half ago, and various other 429 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: Trump foreign policy administration priorities. There was one gentleman in 430 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: the audience whose opinion I found absolutely fascinating and deeply 431 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: incisive on the topic of Greenland. He introduced himself as 432 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: someone who was of a Danish descent. He actually speaks 433 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: fluent Danish. In fact, he lived in Denmark for years 434 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: throughout the exact number it was eight years, ten years, 435 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: maybe up to fifteen years. He is intimately familiar with 436 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: the people of Denmark, with the culture of Denmark, with 437 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: Denmark politics, and all the above. What he told us 438 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: was that the people of Denmark do not give the 439 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: smallest crap in the world about Greenland. At best. At worst, 440 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: he said, a lot are actually deeply supercilious and arrogant, 441 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: and frankly, at times he said, outright racist. Think about it. 442 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: Denmark is part of Scandinavia. I think about the very 443 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: stereotypical looking at Scandinavia and blonde hear, blue eyes, etc. 444 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Think about what the typical Inuit who lives in Greenland 445 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: looks like. It looks a lot different. So he was 446 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: in There was a whole kind of European chauvinistic racist 447 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: thing going on here too. Denmark, by the way, has 448 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: to subsidize Greenlands for massive monies every year. Apparently the 449 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: Median Dane does not want to keep Greenland. This guy's 450 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: opinion of having someone who having lived there for years 451 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: is that the only reason that Greenland is still in 452 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: Danish possession today, the only reason is because of vestigial 453 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: prestige from the historic Danish monarchy, the prime minister, et cetera, 454 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: et cetera. But the actual layman, the Median Dane's opinion, 455 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: he said, are fully supportive of what Don Trump is doing. 456 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: So that's why I'm saying, mister President, keep your foot 457 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: on the pedal when it comes to Greenlands. I for one, 458 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: am robust the supporter of this there. You can't let 459 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: that territory fall into Russian and Chinese hands. They are 460 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: absolutely one thousand percent looking at it. China is developing 461 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: new icebreakers to try to patrol the Arctic region. Russia 462 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: is already well up there there. It's crucial to American security. 463 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: And again I will reiterate, I really do think before 464 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: is all a said and done in this second Donald 465 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: Trump term, I really do think that Donald Trump is 466 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: going to acquire Greenland for the United States. I think 467 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: it will be similar to a Guam, Puerto Rico, uth 468 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: Virgin Islands. Mark my words. I've been wrong before, but frankly, 469 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: for the sake of the American national interests, I hope 470 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: that I am not wrong this particular time. Now in 471 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: other news, turning our attention back towards the towards the 472 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: domestic front. You know, our daughter just turned thirteen months 473 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: old recently, and God willing, we're going to have an 474 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: expanding family here sooner rather than later. We my wife 475 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: and are big opponents of the biblical ideal of be 476 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: fruitful and multiply, and we look forward to hoping expanding 477 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: our family again a sap. So with our daughter now 478 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: a little over a year old, a lot of my 479 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: thoughts have increasingly turned to childhood education, to how to 480 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: try to instill values. I think about the definition of 481 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: being conservative. The deaficio to be conservative to me is 482 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: that you are trying to instill certain values, customs, principles, 483 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: folk ways, inherited traditions, and overall a cumulative worlds being 484 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: way of life. You're trying to instill that and transmit 485 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: that from one generation to the other and hopefully what 486 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: will be an unbroken chain of transmission going back hundreds 487 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: thousands of years, et cetera. That really is ultimately how 488 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: I view it means to be conservative, and child education 489 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: is a big part of that, and I infested Until recently, 490 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: I was not particularly aware of this woman named Miss Rachel. 491 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 1: I really I was not aware. I saw that in December, 492 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: Zoram mam Donnie, the communist mayor of New York City, 493 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: named Miss Rachel as part of his inaugural committee when 494 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: he's inaugurated on New Year's Day on January first, the 495 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: now infamous inauguration speech where Zora mam Donnie talks about 496 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: the frigidity of individualism and the warmth of collectivism. Yes, 497 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: that would be the warmth of collectivism that Nicholas M. 498 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: Duro is undoubtedly intimately familiar with as he is currently 499 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: rotting from a New York jail cell. But in any event, 500 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: Miss Rachel and Zoraman Donnie decided to link arms yet again, 501 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: actually over the weekend. Go ahead and watch this doozy. 502 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: They were singing at first the childotte song Wheels on 503 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: the Bus, which I'm very familiar with, like I share 504 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: because my baby loves that song. But they transitioned from 505 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: Wheels on the Bus to something a little different. Go 506 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: ahead and watch them. They are on the bus says friends, 507 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: Hello friends, Hello friends. The mayor on the bus says 508 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: hello friends. 509 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 3: All through the town. 510 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: The money on the bus goes clink. 511 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: Clink, clank. 512 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: The buses are going to be free though. 513 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: That's so wonderful. 514 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 6: But this is like my song, and the kids like 515 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 6: to do it. Okay, Actually I have another one. 516 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have another one. 517 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: The babies on the bus go where where where childcare? 518 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: They're so happy, Actually, the parents are really happy. 519 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 5: This is like my big hit. 520 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: I need to like, let's go. 521 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: Okay, So, in case you're only happying attention, she's obviously 522 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: pretending to be interrupted. This is obviously choreograph, obviously planned there, 523 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: and it doesn't take a mental level, I Q to 524 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: figure out what's happening here. He is not so subtly. Indeed, 525 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: he is overtually objectively inserting into this childhood programming his 526 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: socialist messages. When it comes to free buses, when it 527 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: comes to free universal wildcare. You see this woman known 528 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: as Miss Rachel, who incidentally has come out previously as 529 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: not just a socialist, but as an apologist for the 530 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: Palestinian Arab cause. She's basically a de facto Hamas Kafiah 531 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: clad proverbial rhetorical jihadas she's made her anti Israel stance 532 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: and her indeed, her anti American stands very well known. 533 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: She's a total leftist. She's a total leftist. And this 534 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: woman has become an absolute sensation. You know, maybe you 535 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: don't have young children right now. I mean, obviously, when 536 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: I was growing up, I'm thirty six years old, I 537 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 1: didn't have a Miss Rachel on YouTube. I didn't even 538 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: have YouTube, right But these days Miss Rachel is one of, 539 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: if not the single most popular online child educator. And 540 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: this is what they're doing. This is the kind of 541 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: messaging that they're inserting to your children. And frankly, that's 542 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: on the tip of the iceberg. You think free buses 543 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: or free child's care is problematic, How about the transgender stuff? 544 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: How about sliding in there? Just sliding in. How Joey 545 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: can be Jane or Jane can be Joey. How it's 546 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: okay if you don't agree with the sex that you 547 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: are assigned with at birth. We're all just here two 548 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: a firm mar stanzas. So go ahead and take that 549 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: puberty blocker. Go ahead and take that chest binder. Go 550 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: ahead and chop off mister winki link downstairs. How it's 551 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: okay to have an abortion. Shout your abortion. It's okay 552 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: to think that your parents are backwards bigots because they 553 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: like to spend their weekends in part at a house 554 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: of worship. Think of them as outmoded troglodytes. You are 555 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: the future, You are the liberated, the freethinker. Again, these 556 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: are the things I'm thinking a lot about these days, 557 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: now that we have our first baby, toddler thirteen months. 558 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if she's a baby or toddler, whatever 559 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: she is. We have our young one more on the 560 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: way God willing stoner rather than later, And it's just 561 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: a sober reminder that parenting in some ways has never 562 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: been more difficult because of the nature of the Internet 563 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: and social media and all of the cancerous forces that 564 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: are out there. Not just narcotics, not just pornography, although 565 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: that is horrific, Not just the Instagram and TikTok algorithms, 566 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: even though those undoubtedly are at times, perhaps often horrific 567 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: as well. But when it comes to self aggrandizing, cynical, 568 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: ideologically motivated quote unquote educators who give off a veneer 569 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: a patterna of purporting to care about your child's well being. 570 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: They pretend they mouth the platitudes of caring about how 571 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: your child is learning and advancing, but in reality they're 572 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: there to hawk their ideological agenda. This is why I'm 573 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: so bullish by the way on right of center alternatives 574 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: to Miss Rachel, I think about prager You and Praguer 575 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: You has a whole kid's division. Praguer You kids. I 576 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: love Prager You. Organizations like that have never been more important. 577 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: We need more right of center family centric programming, not 578 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: even families and program just common sense, non stupid. How 579 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: about decent human being programming, patriotic, pro American, pro West programming. 580 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: It's increasingly hard to find Again, you might not be 581 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: aware of it, of just how bad it's gone out there, 582 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: but we need to make our voices heard when it 583 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: comes to people like miss Rachel. She's a cancer on 584 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: this you young up and coming generation. She should be 585 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: shunned and ostracized, not celebrated. I'm not surprised that Zormamdani 586 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: is bringing her in and fading her with all this 587 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: praise and these cameo appearances there. But it's also not 588 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: to support the alternatives. Support those who are going to 589 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: give your child a better education. I know that I 590 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: try to do so in my own personal life as well. 591 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: It's never been more important, frankly, than it is now. 592 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer. Stay with us, We'll be right back. 593 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, it's National Champion to day in college football, 594 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: Miami Mammi Hurricanes and the Indiana Hoosiers, undefeated Indiana squaring 595 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: off at hard Rock Stadium, not terribly far from where 596 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: I live here in South Florida. It is essentially a 597 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: home game for the Miami Hurricanes, who are a major 598 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: underdog nonetheless against Indiana, led by their Heisman Trophy winning 599 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: quarterback for Nando Mendoza, who is from the three zero 600 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: five who is from Miami Dade County. So either way, 601 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: South Florida wins. You know, on my flight back to 602 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Florida from New York City last night that actually were 603 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of Indiana fans on the flight. I presume 604 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: that there were not many Miami fans for the very 605 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: simile reason that this is a home game and most 606 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: Mimi fans probably are already here. But any event, college 607 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: sports is yet again in the news. I haven't be 608 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: a huge college sports fan in general. Those of you 609 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: who know me very well know that my rider Die 610 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: team is Duke basketball. Been a fan of Duke Bastel 611 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: since I was literally in the third or fourth grade. 612 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: I've seen our team win two national titles in person. 613 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: I watch every game. I'm a genuinely huge college sports 614 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: fan and really just a big sports fan in general, 615 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: which is why I was so dismayed to see yet again, 616 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: yet again, another indictment when it comes to a point 617 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: shaving sports gambling scandal in college athletics. So this one 618 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: came just within the past week. Within the past week, 619 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: it had a brand new a brand new indictment coming 620 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: from the US Turns Office for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 621 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: a brand new federal indictment that's been unsealed allegedly a 622 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: sprawling college basketball point shaving scheme involving more than thirty 623 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: nine players on seventeen different Division one on NCAA college 624 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: basketball programs that resulted, according to the indictment in Pennsylvania, 625 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: that resulted allegedly in dozens of games over the past 626 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: two seasons being fixed by an overarching broader gambling ring 627 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: that included a former NBA player. Twenty of the twenty 628 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: six defendants, by the way, played college basketball just during 629 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 1: the past two seasons. For them, four of the twenty 630 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: six defendants have played for the current team over the 631 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 1: past week or two. They're still playing. Unbelievable stuff. Unbelievable stuff. 632 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how many times does it have to happen? 633 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: How many times does this happen? 634 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: You know? 635 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: It was just in November that there was yet another, 636 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: yet another indictments that came in the sport of baseball. 637 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: In the sport of baseball, actually there were there was 638 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: a pitcher for the Cleveland Guardians forming the know as 639 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: Cleveland Indians that that was indicted in another case as well. Horrible, 640 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: I have recent NBA scandal, the poker ring involving involving 641 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups, the former Troy Pistons player. There have been 642 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: numerous numerous high profile scans down so this massive indictment 643 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: out of Pennsylvania. When it comes to college basketball, we 644 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: have the Cleveland Guardians thing. The pitchers were named Emmanuel 645 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: Klase and Luis Ortiz. They were charged with fraud, conspiracy, 646 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: and bribery stemming from an alleged scheme to brake individual pitches. 647 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: This came from November as well, and then there was 648 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: the poker scandal involving the NBA players Chauncey Bilbs. There So, 649 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: sports scambling has become one of the big problems, frankly, 650 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: of our time, and the numbers in this, frankly are 651 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: just astounding. I wrote my weekly syndicated column on this 652 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: very topic back in November, around the time that that 653 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball scandal broke, So in case you missed 654 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: the column, just a couple of particular highlights there. So, 655 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: according to research tracking seven million US adults, states with 656 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: legalized online sports betting have seen a twenty five to 657 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: thirty percent increase in bankruptcy filings in an eight percent 658 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: rise in debt sent to collections compared to states without 659 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: such easy access to sports gambling out of their smartphone 660 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: in their pocket. Additionally, a survey of sports betters found 661 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: that one in four say they've missed a bill they 662 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: missed a bill payment because of sports gambling, and thirty 663 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: percent say they have debts that they directly attribute to 664 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: losses from sports wagering. More than half of sports gamblers 665 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: carry their credit card bounce from month to month, and 666 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: on and on it goes. Another say you found that 667 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: households and states with legal sports gambling invests nearly fourteen 668 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: percent less than comparable households in other states. Money that 669 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: could have gone to retirement savings, small businessvestment, various other 670 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: good uses instead went to sports gambling. When it comes 671 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: to college athletics, it's perhaps particularly problematic. For a very 672 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: long time, college athletics was really the it was really 673 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: it's something of an innocent it's really kind of an 674 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: innocent thing, right. I think about the helcyon days of 675 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: college athletics, like the actual days of college sports before 676 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: the past few years where the NCBLA has agreed to 677 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 1: allow athletes to market their anil name, image and likeness, 678 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 1: as the popular acronym goes, and now there's big Bucks. 679 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: Now there's big Bucks involved in college athletics. What is 680 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: the extent between this infusion of big Bucks in college 681 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: athletics with this corruption when it comes to sports gambling. 682 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: Surely there is something there when it comes to trying 683 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: to increase the monetary incentive. If you just totally crowd 684 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: out and you say that no, you are amateurs, You're 685 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: not going to be earning any money until you go 686 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: to the next level. If you're so inclined or if 687 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: you have the skill to do it, then there's not 688 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: going to be the incentive there for these gambling rings 689 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: try to creep in and try to disrupt games, pay 690 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: people to basically deliberately underperform and rig the system. By 691 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: the way, kind of related to that. So, the quarterback 692 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: of the Miami Hurricanes, Carson Back, formerly the quarterback of 693 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: the University of Georgia. He is the one who is 694 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: playing today against Fernando Mendoza of Indiana for the national title. 695 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: Carson Back was asked recently about attending class and it 696 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: was a rather curious interview. I guess you would say, 697 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: go ahead and watch this one. 698 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 5: Carson. 699 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 4: I'm curious, did you have class yesterday? 700 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 5: If so, what class? 701 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: And I know there was a PEP rally on campus. 702 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 4: Just what has it been like being you as a 703 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 4: student this week, particularly yesterday? No class? 704 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 5: I graduated two years ago, so obviously I've been working 705 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 5: towards other degrees now that I've gotten to Miami. But 706 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 5: these programs take a little longer than just a year 707 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 5: to finish. So obviously I'm not enrolling again next semester, 708 00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 5: so I'll be done after this season. 709 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So cursely they're a Fox Sports. I mean, you 710 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: see that he's just smiling, kind of left in his office. 711 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: If it's no big deal. Yeah, you know, I'm a quarterback. 712 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't really play. 713 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 4: You know. 714 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: Again, call me old school, But once upon a time 715 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: there was the model student athlete. I mentioned Duke basketball 716 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,840 Speaker 1: my real college athletic love and joy earlier today. Around 717 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: the time that was becoming a Duke basketball fan was 718 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: when they made the national title game in nineteen ninety nine, 719 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: where they got upset by Jim Calhoun's Yukon Huskies, and 720 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: then two years later they won the national title in 721 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, this team that was totally stacked. 722 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: You had Shane Battier, Jay Williams, Carlos Boozer, Mike Dunleve, etcetera. 723 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: Shane Battier was I believe a four point o GPA. 724 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: He was a role model, perfect student, like a genuinely 725 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: brilliant person who also was National Player of the Year 726 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: and one of the greatest defensive players in the entire 727 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: history of college basketball and one national title to boot. 728 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: That is the model of a student athlete. That is 729 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: what college athletics ought to be. At some point, if 730 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: there is so much money flowing in through this new 731 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: NIL agreement that the INSTEADA is experimenting in at some points, 732 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 1: if players are just going to laugh and laugh and 733 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: laugh when it comes to whether or not they're even 734 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: going to be attending class in the first place. Oh classes, 735 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm a six year senior class. I mean, I think 736 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: back to the early two thousands. I mean to an 737 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,759 Speaker 1: extent for a while, it actually predates the NIL thing. 738 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: Matt Leinert, the USC Trojans quarterback nearly two thousands, as 739 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: like a fifth or six year senior. He was taking 740 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: one class ballroom dancing or some stupid crap like that. Look, 741 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,760 Speaker 1: is college athletics going to be for collegians for students 742 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: or is this just the professional minor leagues. That's the 743 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: big question and the broader point to here, not just 744 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: a sports fan, is because college athletics ought to be 745 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: a place where we go to look again for something 746 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: resembling innocence, not the over the top marketing and this 747 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: corporate sponsors and the big bucks and the this and 748 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: the that, and the glitz and the glamour of the NBA, 749 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: the NFL, et cetera. People looked in the past college 750 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: boards something very different, a cleaner and more old school 751 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: type of athletic competition. That there's a reason why the 752 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,479 Speaker 1: NCAA is more popular in the Midwest and the South. 753 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 1: That's why it's his older school, more traditional mentality that's 754 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: dying before our eyes. And along of that death is 755 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,760 Speaker 1: coming this corruption the form of sports gaming as well. Frankly, 756 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it. 757 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 3: I hate it. 758 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: I hate it. I'm not sure if there's putting this 759 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: genie back in the bottle, but frankly, I hope that 760 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 1: there is some way to at least mitigate the damage. Houck, 761 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,479 Speaker 1: we enjoy the rest of or evening, I'm Josh Hammer, 762 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: wishing good night. We'll be right back tomorrow. The Josh 763 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: Hammer Show is a member of the Trust Project