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Subscribe Today for new 11 00:00:44,696 --> 00:00:45,697 Speaker 3: videos each week. 12 00:00:49,336 --> 00:00:52,257 Speaker 2: I just remember having this internal thought that I knew 13 00:00:52,417 --> 00:00:54,617 Speaker 2: was of mine. It was you know, a knew God 14 00:00:54,697 --> 00:00:56,377 Speaker 2: was in the room, you know what I mean, You 15 00:00:56,417 --> 00:00:59,017 Speaker 2: just know He's there, and I'm like, I want to give. 16 00:00:58,897 --> 00:00:59,377 Speaker 1: You my life. 17 00:00:59,417 --> 00:01:02,097 Speaker 2: I want to quit all this addiction, all this darkness, 18 00:01:02,337 --> 00:01:06,017 Speaker 2: all this anger, all this depression, oh this trial right 19 00:01:06,137 --> 00:01:07,297 Speaker 2: that I've known for so long. 20 00:01:08,657 --> 00:01:11,777 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. This week we hear 21 00:01:11,817 --> 00:01:15,417 Speaker 3: from Stephen mcquarter, a songwriter and worship leader whose early 22 00:01:15,497 --> 00:01:18,737 Speaker 3: life was marked by deep trauma, addiction, and a shattered 23 00:01:18,817 --> 00:01:22,097 Speaker 3: view of God shaped by his father's hypocrisy and abuse. 24 00:01:22,657 --> 00:01:26,857 Speaker 3: After years of rebellion and anger toward faith, Stephen encountered 25 00:01:26,937 --> 00:01:31,337 Speaker 3: Jesus in an unexpected moment that transformed everything. Today, he 26 00:01:31,417 --> 00:01:34,737 Speaker 3: shares a powerful story of grace, redemption, and the hard 27 00:01:34,777 --> 00:01:38,217 Speaker 3: won freedom found on the other side of forgiveness. Later 28 00:01:38,257 --> 00:01:41,417 Speaker 3: in the episode, we'll hear from author and speaker Courtney 29 00:01:41,417 --> 00:01:44,137 Speaker 3: prey Duke, who opens up about the tragic loss of 30 00:01:44,137 --> 00:01:47,537 Speaker 3: her husband. Courtney shares what it was like to navigate 31 00:01:47,577 --> 00:01:51,137 Speaker 3: grief while raising three children alone, and how it encouraged 32 00:01:51,177 --> 00:01:53,457 Speaker 3: her to draw closer to God as a source of 33 00:01:53,497 --> 00:01:57,217 Speaker 3: comfort when everything felt like it was falling apart. Let's 34 00:01:57,217 --> 00:01:58,417 Speaker 3: start with Stephen's story. 35 00:02:03,097 --> 00:02:07,377 Speaker 2: I'm Stephen McCord. I'm a songwriter. I'm a worship leader. 36 00:02:07,857 --> 00:02:13,177 Speaker 2: I travel a lot playing music and sharing my testimony 37 00:02:13,257 --> 00:02:15,337 Speaker 2: and seeing a lot of people come to Jesus, which 38 00:02:15,337 --> 00:02:22,137 Speaker 2: has been awesome. I grew up in a small town 39 00:02:22,257 --> 00:02:25,777 Speaker 2: in Indiana called Cordon and got in a lot of 40 00:02:25,817 --> 00:02:29,097 Speaker 2: trouble I was growing up there, But I traveled a lot, 41 00:02:29,097 --> 00:02:31,897 Speaker 2: actually with my dad, who was an evangelist, and we 42 00:02:31,937 --> 00:02:34,097 Speaker 2: would go from church camp to church camp. My dad 43 00:02:34,137 --> 00:02:37,537 Speaker 2: would do revivals, but the man that I saw behind 44 00:02:37,537 --> 00:02:39,977 Speaker 2: a pulpit and the one I saw at home were 45 00:02:40,017 --> 00:02:42,617 Speaker 2: two different people. I'd literally see my dad get preach 46 00:02:42,657 --> 00:02:46,577 Speaker 2: about Jesus and people would get saved, even but at 47 00:02:46,617 --> 00:02:50,537 Speaker 2: home I would watch him physically abuse my mom. And 48 00:02:50,617 --> 00:02:54,297 Speaker 2: so at a very young age, I decided that if 49 00:02:54,297 --> 00:02:57,137 Speaker 2: God's real, he's not good, and I don't want anything 50 00:02:57,137 --> 00:02:59,697 Speaker 2: to do with this Jesus guy. So, even at that 51 00:02:59,737 --> 00:03:02,577 Speaker 2: young age, in that small town, I begin to rebel. 52 00:03:03,177 --> 00:03:06,337 Speaker 2: And it was smoking, drinking, marijuana kind of stuff, and 53 00:03:06,457 --> 00:03:09,337 Speaker 2: it was crystal math and do you name it man? 54 00:03:09,377 --> 00:03:12,057 Speaker 2: For many many years, I think for me, some of 55 00:03:12,257 --> 00:03:16,097 Speaker 2: what the trauma was was we all have this this 56 00:03:16,137 --> 00:03:18,977 Speaker 2: thing with our earthly fathers, right, It's this deep thing, 57 00:03:19,017 --> 00:03:21,497 Speaker 2: and I think it's connected to the Lord as our father. 58 00:03:22,057 --> 00:03:25,857 Speaker 2: Even the best earthly fathers, trying our best, we pay 59 00:03:25,937 --> 00:03:29,056 Speaker 2: in comparison to just how good God is. But when 60 00:03:29,057 --> 00:03:33,257 Speaker 2: you have one that also claims to follow him and 61 00:03:33,817 --> 00:03:37,577 Speaker 2: literally a minister, you equate your heavenly father and your 62 00:03:37,617 --> 00:03:41,657 Speaker 2: earthly father kind of together. So for me to see 63 00:03:41,737 --> 00:03:44,657 Speaker 2: that kind of trauma, my mom going through these things 64 00:03:44,697 --> 00:03:48,897 Speaker 2: and watching these horrific, you know, moments in my life 65 00:03:49,417 --> 00:03:52,937 Speaker 2: behind closed doors. It literally was like my earthly father 66 00:03:52,977 --> 00:03:55,457 Speaker 2: and my heavenly Father became the villains of my story. 67 00:03:55,577 --> 00:03:58,857 Speaker 2: I equated the two kind of as one. This made 68 00:03:58,897 --> 00:04:01,257 Speaker 2: me this guy that literally, if you hadn't known me 69 00:04:01,617 --> 00:04:03,897 Speaker 2: in those early years, my teens and in all the 70 00:04:03,897 --> 00:04:06,777 Speaker 2: addiction you'd appointed at me, I swear to you to say, Man, 71 00:04:06,857 --> 00:04:08,297 Speaker 2: if there's ever an enemy. 72 00:04:07,977 --> 00:04:09,257 Speaker 1: Of the Cross, it's this guy. 73 00:04:10,017 --> 00:04:12,057 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because I was the guy that literally would have 74 00:04:12,057 --> 00:04:14,337 Speaker 2: either cussed you out or tried to knock you out 75 00:04:14,737 --> 00:04:18,736 Speaker 2: had you mentioned Jesus' name around me. I literally had 76 00:04:18,736 --> 00:04:22,256 Speaker 2: this deep anger and this wound in me that really 77 00:04:22,337 --> 00:04:25,896 Speaker 2: was connected to my earthly father and a broken view 78 00:04:26,176 --> 00:04:32,897 Speaker 2: of who God is. I was that guy who hated Jesus. 79 00:04:32,976 --> 00:04:35,696 Speaker 2: And somebody came and offered me the book case for 80 00:04:35,777 --> 00:04:39,657 Speaker 2: Christ by least Strobel. When somebody offered me this book, 81 00:04:39,736 --> 00:04:42,056 Speaker 2: it's probably the most miraculous part of the story. Because 82 00:04:42,097 --> 00:04:44,456 Speaker 2: I didn't like cuss him out and cause a scene 83 00:04:44,457 --> 00:04:46,336 Speaker 2: and kick him out of my house. I was like, cool, 84 00:04:46,337 --> 00:04:49,537 Speaker 2: whatever in this stupid book. Fast forward, It's three o'clock 85 00:04:49,577 --> 00:04:52,376 Speaker 2: in the morning. I'm in this room. I have drugs 86 00:04:52,376 --> 00:04:54,577 Speaker 2: on the side table next to me. I always say, 87 00:04:54,616 --> 00:04:56,696 Speaker 2: it's like the kindness of a very real God. And 88 00:04:56,897 --> 00:05:00,617 Speaker 2: to meet a wounded evangel son in a place like this, 89 00:05:00,897 --> 00:05:03,817 Speaker 2: and I just remember having this internal thought that I 90 00:05:03,856 --> 00:05:06,136 Speaker 2: knew wasn't mine. It was I knew God was in 91 00:05:06,176 --> 00:05:07,976 Speaker 2: the room, you know what I mean, You just know 92 00:05:08,056 --> 00:05:10,177 Speaker 2: He's there. And I'm like, I want to give you 93 00:05:10,296 --> 00:05:12,616 Speaker 2: my life. I want to quit all this addiction, all 94 00:05:12,616 --> 00:05:17,217 Speaker 2: this darkness, all this anger, all this depression, oh this trauma, 95 00:05:17,376 --> 00:05:19,217 Speaker 2: right that I've known for so long, God, I want 96 00:05:19,257 --> 00:05:21,457 Speaker 2: to And I just remember being like, there's no way, 97 00:05:21,936 --> 00:05:23,577 Speaker 2: you know, there's no way I can do this. This 98 00:05:23,616 --> 00:05:25,976 Speaker 2: is all I've known for so long. It's like a 99 00:05:26,017 --> 00:05:29,537 Speaker 2: part of me. I can't imagine being somebody else. And 100 00:05:29,616 --> 00:05:31,816 Speaker 2: I just remember that moment, having a thought that I 101 00:05:31,856 --> 00:05:34,096 Speaker 2: knew wasn't mine, that had to be from the Lord, 102 00:05:34,537 --> 00:05:37,457 Speaker 2: and it was Stephen, you won't do it, I'll do it. 103 00:05:37,936 --> 00:05:40,657 Speaker 2: I just remember, it's like the Ephesians to eight, Right, 104 00:05:40,657 --> 00:05:43,056 Speaker 2: you're saved by gracis this and something you can boast about. 105 00:05:43,097 --> 00:05:46,016 Speaker 2: It's a work of God. He does it. But there's 106 00:05:46,056 --> 00:05:48,296 Speaker 2: something that I can do and you can do, And 107 00:05:48,376 --> 00:05:51,256 Speaker 2: it's what Jesus says in John six twenty nine. He says, 108 00:05:51,257 --> 00:05:53,856 Speaker 2: the only work the Father asks of you is to believe. 109 00:05:54,217 --> 00:05:55,976 Speaker 2: So in that moment, God said you won't do it, 110 00:05:56,017 --> 00:05:59,617 Speaker 2: I'll do it the simplest thing. I believed you. I 111 00:05:59,697 --> 00:06:02,137 Speaker 2: still came out his word. I was like, yes, I 112 00:06:02,176 --> 00:06:06,657 Speaker 2: believed them, like I believe. I'm breathing air right right now. 113 00:06:06,936 --> 00:06:09,537 Speaker 2: And I gave my life to Jesus. I literally quit 114 00:06:09,657 --> 00:06:12,537 Speaker 2: everything overnight. And I always remind people because I talk 115 00:06:12,577 --> 00:06:14,257 Speaker 2: to a lot of people in the Dictionary recovery, and 116 00:06:14,296 --> 00:06:18,056 Speaker 2: I always say, listen, don't be discouraged by that number one. 117 00:06:18,097 --> 00:06:20,576 Speaker 2: There was plenty more screwed up things with me to 118 00:06:20,616 --> 00:06:24,577 Speaker 2: deal with for years to come. But in the Gospels, 119 00:06:24,777 --> 00:06:28,376 Speaker 2: Jesus never healed anyone the same way twice. Because every 120 00:06:28,577 --> 00:06:32,337 Speaker 2: story has a purpose. If it takes you six times, 121 00:06:32,657 --> 00:06:35,017 Speaker 2: five times, eleven times, and you fall at the feet 122 00:06:35,056 --> 00:06:38,296 Speaker 2: of Jesus and you mean it and he radically transformed you, 123 00:06:38,376 --> 00:06:40,297 Speaker 2: He's going to use your story. He's going to use 124 00:06:40,296 --> 00:06:43,177 Speaker 2: your story to draw people to him. It's incredible. I've 125 00:06:43,176 --> 00:06:53,856 Speaker 2: seen it so many times. It's amazing. Not long enough 126 00:06:53,897 --> 00:06:56,257 Speaker 2: to giving my life to Jesus, I had gotten engaged 127 00:06:56,296 --> 00:06:59,296 Speaker 2: to my girlfriend who is now my wife, and I 128 00:06:59,376 --> 00:07:01,936 Speaker 2: just remember her and I talking about it, and I 129 00:07:02,097 --> 00:07:04,657 Speaker 2: knew God was calling me to do the hardest thing 130 00:07:04,657 --> 00:07:06,016 Speaker 2: I've ever done in my life, and that was to 131 00:07:06,097 --> 00:07:11,897 Speaker 2: forgive my dad, which sounds appalling. It sounds like the 132 00:07:11,937 --> 00:07:14,816 Speaker 2: worst idea on the planet to me and maybe to you. 133 00:07:14,937 --> 00:07:19,016 Speaker 2: If you've seen somebody in abuse, you're like, you can't 134 00:07:19,057 --> 00:07:23,057 Speaker 2: forgive them, You just can't. That's how I felt. But 135 00:07:23,697 --> 00:07:25,377 Speaker 2: I knew the Lord's calling me, you forget my dad. 136 00:07:25,417 --> 00:07:29,417 Speaker 2: So I went to him and it was the most 137 00:07:29,537 --> 00:07:33,057 Speaker 2: unhulmark moment ever. There was no beam of light that 138 00:07:33,177 --> 00:07:35,617 Speaker 2: shot through the window or a bird of my shoulder. 139 00:07:35,816 --> 00:07:38,297 Speaker 2: It was just like me saying to my dad, Hey, 140 00:07:38,337 --> 00:07:40,696 Speaker 2: I forgive you for all this, him looking at me 141 00:07:40,897 --> 00:07:44,737 Speaker 2: like his entire reality had just falling apart, and was like, oh, okay, 142 00:07:44,857 --> 00:07:47,337 Speaker 2: thank you. And then I just go yo, welcome on, gay, 143 00:07:47,337 --> 00:07:48,417 Speaker 2: I love you, and I get in the car and 144 00:07:48,417 --> 00:07:50,977 Speaker 2: I just drove off like I stole something. It was 145 00:07:51,337 --> 00:07:55,776 Speaker 2: completely awkward, but I knew that God had done something 146 00:07:55,777 --> 00:07:58,256 Speaker 2: in that moment beyond what I could see with my eyes. 147 00:07:58,897 --> 00:08:02,297 Speaker 2: And fast forward. My fiance at this time was like, 148 00:08:02,497 --> 00:08:04,537 Speaker 2: I feel like the Lord wants your dad to take 149 00:08:04,577 --> 00:08:06,417 Speaker 2: this forgiveness thing for I feel like the Lord MutS 150 00:08:06,457 --> 00:08:09,737 Speaker 2: your dad to baptize you and me. I'm like, oh 151 00:08:09,737 --> 00:08:11,657 Speaker 2: my gosh, this is never going to stop. So I 152 00:08:11,697 --> 00:08:15,737 Speaker 2: go yesterday baptizes this next thing. You know, my wife again, 153 00:08:15,816 --> 00:08:18,096 Speaker 2: she's becoming a problem at this point that it's fine, 154 00:08:18,377 --> 00:08:21,696 Speaker 2: but she's like, Okay, I think your dad needs to 155 00:08:21,697 --> 00:08:24,697 Speaker 2: perform our wedding ceremony. It's amazing that we're ever married. 156 00:08:25,097 --> 00:08:29,816 Speaker 2: So fast forward now, at the time of me getting saved, 157 00:08:29,816 --> 00:08:31,857 Speaker 2: it had been like about eleven or so years since 158 00:08:31,857 --> 00:08:35,016 Speaker 2: my dad had ever touched my mom. And I'll say, 159 00:08:35,097 --> 00:08:38,417 Speaker 2: if you're in danger, be safe, but my mom stayed 160 00:08:38,417 --> 00:08:41,217 Speaker 2: with my dad. And now here we are at this 161 00:08:41,297 --> 00:08:44,137 Speaker 2: point in my story. Fast forward so many years later, 162 00:08:44,257 --> 00:08:46,977 Speaker 2: my dad's died of cancer. Now, by the way, it's 163 00:08:47,017 --> 00:08:49,897 Speaker 2: been twelve years or so today or something like that, 164 00:08:50,337 --> 00:08:54,457 Speaker 2: but I remember setting in the hospital room and hospice 165 00:08:54,457 --> 00:08:56,337 Speaker 2: had already happened all that, And you know, if you've 166 00:08:56,337 --> 00:08:59,577 Speaker 2: ever been in a hospital room with somebody when they're 167 00:08:59,577 --> 00:09:04,017 Speaker 2: in a coma, they're just barely hanging on, and there's 168 00:09:04,057 --> 00:09:06,697 Speaker 2: this moment where you like, you know, like loved ones 169 00:09:06,697 --> 00:09:08,737 Speaker 2: and stuff like let them know it's okay to go, 170 00:09:08,977 --> 00:09:11,857 Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. But my dad had just been 171 00:09:11,897 --> 00:09:14,537 Speaker 2: hanging on for days, and I was in the hospital 172 00:09:14,617 --> 00:09:16,857 Speaker 2: room alone. My mom had left for the first time 173 00:09:16,897 --> 00:09:19,257 Speaker 2: in days for some reason, like go to get a 174 00:09:19,257 --> 00:09:22,897 Speaker 2: snack or something, and I'm watching my dad's struggle to breathe, 175 00:09:23,817 --> 00:09:27,337 Speaker 2: and I lean in one last time and I whispered 176 00:09:27,377 --> 00:09:30,337 Speaker 2: to my dad, I love you and I forgive you, 177 00:09:31,297 --> 00:09:35,377 Speaker 2: and I watched my dad take his last breath. I 178 00:09:35,417 --> 00:09:38,897 Speaker 2: would just say to anybody, there is something truly powerful 179 00:09:38,977 --> 00:09:42,417 Speaker 2: on the other side of forgiveness. It's not about reciprocation. 180 00:09:42,577 --> 00:09:45,217 Speaker 2: Somebody made us not say to you, well, I'm asking 181 00:09:45,217 --> 00:09:47,817 Speaker 2: for your forgiveness. But you have the ability to tear 182 00:09:47,897 --> 00:09:51,017 Speaker 2: up the dead and throw it away. And that's real freedom, 183 00:09:51,177 --> 00:09:52,857 Speaker 2: that's real restoration. 184 00:09:55,977 --> 00:09:59,697 Speaker 3: To learn more about Stephen mccorter, please visit Worship Jesus 185 00:09:59,817 --> 00:10:02,617 Speaker 3: dot life and be sure to check out his new book, 186 00:10:02,857 --> 00:10:07,377 Speaker 3: Radically Restored, available at your favorite retailer. Stay tuned to 187 00:10:07,457 --> 00:10:18,777 Speaker 3: Courtney pray Duke's story after a brief message. These uncertain 188 00:10:18,817 --> 00:10:22,257 Speaker 3: times bring anxiety and fear, but Jesus Listens Prayers for 189 00:10:22,337 --> 00:10:26,297 Speaker 3: Every Season gives you daily prayers of comfort with seasonally 190 00:10:26,337 --> 00:10:30,337 Speaker 3: inspired illustrations. This beautiful book includes prayers that speak to 191 00:10:30,377 --> 00:10:33,897 Speaker 3: your situation, whether it's a time of stress or strength. 192 00:10:34,657 --> 00:10:38,017 Speaker 3: Look for Jesus Listens Prayers for Every Season wherever you 193 00:10:38,057 --> 00:10:47,817 Speaker 3: buy books. Our next guest is Courtney pray Duke, an 194 00:10:47,857 --> 00:10:51,017 Speaker 3: author and speaker whose life was forever changed after the 195 00:10:51,057 --> 00:10:53,977 Speaker 3: sudden loss of her husband Andrew, in a cycling accident 196 00:10:54,017 --> 00:10:57,377 Speaker 3: in twenty twelve. Left to raise three young children while 197 00:10:57,457 --> 00:11:02,057 Speaker 3: navigating unimaginable grief, Courtney's journey became one of discovering God's 198 00:11:02,057 --> 00:11:06,057 Speaker 3: nearness and heartbreak, and his faithfulness through every step of healing. 199 00:11:07,857 --> 00:11:11,177 Speaker 4: I'm Courtney pray Duke and i live in Atlanta, Georgia. 200 00:11:11,577 --> 00:11:15,137 Speaker 4: I'm an author, a mother of four. I have two 201 00:11:15,217 --> 00:11:19,097 Speaker 4: kids in college, one at Auburn University and one at 202 00:11:19,137 --> 00:11:21,937 Speaker 4: the University of Georgia. And then I've got a tenth 203 00:11:21,937 --> 00:11:25,537 Speaker 4: grader son and a son. 204 00:11:25,377 --> 00:11:28,457 Speaker 1: Who's seven in the second grade. We have a full life. 205 00:11:28,657 --> 00:11:32,577 Speaker 4: If I'm not writing or speaking, I am driving my 206 00:11:32,657 --> 00:11:40,537 Speaker 4: kids around and being a mama and a wife. I 207 00:11:40,617 --> 00:11:44,217 Speaker 4: met my late husband, Andrew, when I was nine years 208 00:11:44,257 --> 00:11:47,897 Speaker 4: old and he was ten. It was this summer before 209 00:11:48,457 --> 00:11:53,057 Speaker 4: the fourth grade, I believe, and he and I we 210 00:11:53,097 --> 00:11:57,857 Speaker 4: started out as friends and we ended up going out, 211 00:11:58,217 --> 00:12:01,417 Speaker 4: if you want to call it, when we were twelve 212 00:12:01,497 --> 00:12:06,497 Speaker 4: and thirteen, and we dated all throughout high school, so 213 00:12:06,537 --> 00:12:08,697 Speaker 4: we were like basically childhood sweethearts. 214 00:12:08,977 --> 00:12:13,577 Speaker 1: We led worship together. We started leading worship around just 215 00:12:13,857 --> 00:12:17,017 Speaker 1: those early junior high high school years, and. 216 00:12:18,337 --> 00:12:22,177 Speaker 4: We had something really really special, and God gave us 217 00:12:22,377 --> 00:12:27,497 Speaker 4: a very rich relationship even though we were so young. As 218 00:12:27,537 --> 00:12:30,097 Speaker 4: we got a little bit older and I'm being older 219 00:12:30,177 --> 00:12:33,457 Speaker 4: as in still in high school college age, we knew 220 00:12:33,457 --> 00:12:35,937 Speaker 4: that that was who God had for us each other. 221 00:12:36,177 --> 00:12:38,057 Speaker 4: So we knew that we were supposed to get married. 222 00:12:38,097 --> 00:12:40,257 Speaker 4: We knew that we were supposed to that God was 223 00:12:40,297 --> 00:12:43,097 Speaker 4: calling us into the ministry, and so we got married 224 00:12:43,137 --> 00:12:44,497 Speaker 4: at nineteen and twenty. 225 00:12:44,537 --> 00:12:47,377 Speaker 1: We were very young, but we were so ready. We 226 00:12:47,377 --> 00:12:48,337 Speaker 1: were so in love. 227 00:12:48,537 --> 00:12:51,857 Speaker 4: And I can still see him as that nine year old, 228 00:12:52,057 --> 00:12:55,017 Speaker 4: ten year old kid, and it just just cracks me 229 00:12:55,137 --> 00:12:58,577 Speaker 4: up just to think about the journey that we went 230 00:12:58,617 --> 00:13:01,697 Speaker 4: on so young but really truly so special. 231 00:13:03,257 --> 00:13:07,897 Speaker 1: You don't ever imagine the unamata happening to you and. 232 00:13:07,977 --> 00:13:12,497 Speaker 4: It was the day before Thanksgiving in twenty twelve, and 233 00:13:12,577 --> 00:13:14,577 Speaker 4: I had been to the grocery store and done some 234 00:13:14,617 --> 00:13:15,337 Speaker 4: stuff that morning. 235 00:13:15,377 --> 00:13:17,337 Speaker 1: The kids were all home from school. 236 00:13:17,497 --> 00:13:19,377 Speaker 4: I had an eight six and a two year old, 237 00:13:19,457 --> 00:13:21,137 Speaker 4: so I had two of them that were home from 238 00:13:21,137 --> 00:13:25,297 Speaker 4: school and they were running around the house. And my husband, Andrew, 239 00:13:25,577 --> 00:13:28,297 Speaker 4: was an avid cyclist, so he was a worship pastor 240 00:13:28,377 --> 00:13:31,497 Speaker 4: and we served at our local church there in Dallash, Georgia. 241 00:13:31,537 --> 00:13:34,057 Speaker 4: At the time, he was getting ready to go on 242 00:13:34,097 --> 00:13:36,177 Speaker 4: a bike ride. He looked at me and he said, 243 00:13:36,217 --> 00:13:37,817 Speaker 4: is there anything I can do for you to make 244 00:13:37,857 --> 00:13:40,297 Speaker 4: your day more enjoyable? And I said, no, thank you. 245 00:13:40,297 --> 00:13:43,497 Speaker 4: You've been amazing. Thanks for keeping the kids this morning, 246 00:13:43,617 --> 00:13:46,097 Speaker 4: and it was just a very normal day. 247 00:13:46,257 --> 00:13:48,537 Speaker 1: It was so sunny and blew outside. 248 00:13:48,657 --> 00:13:51,177 Speaker 4: And he said I love you, and I said I 249 00:13:51,217 --> 00:13:51,697 Speaker 4: love you too. 250 00:13:51,777 --> 00:13:52,777 Speaker 1: Have fun on your ride. 251 00:13:52,977 --> 00:13:56,537 Speaker 4: And he gathered up the rest of his little snacks 252 00:13:56,537 --> 00:14:00,177 Speaker 4: for his cycling bib, put him in the back pocket, 253 00:14:00,217 --> 00:14:02,417 Speaker 4: and then he walked out the door, and I can 254 00:14:02,497 --> 00:14:05,857 Speaker 4: remember hearing the garage door close. In that moment, I 255 00:14:05,897 --> 00:14:08,257 Speaker 4: prayed for him, just like I always had, that God 256 00:14:08,257 --> 00:14:12,817 Speaker 4: would protect him, and I vividly remember that moment. It 257 00:14:12,937 --> 00:14:16,417 Speaker 4: just kind of time just stood still and paused. 258 00:14:17,577 --> 00:14:18,737 Speaker 1: I went about my morning. 259 00:14:18,817 --> 00:14:22,017 Speaker 4: I was making the kids lunches and packing up just 260 00:14:22,057 --> 00:14:24,737 Speaker 4: some Christmas stuff that we had been decorating the house 261 00:14:24,777 --> 00:14:26,897 Speaker 4: the night before, and I was cleaning up from that 262 00:14:27,777 --> 00:14:30,257 Speaker 4: and getting the kids all settled in having lunch. I 263 00:14:30,297 --> 00:14:33,097 Speaker 4: painted my daughter's fingernails, and we were just enjoying our 264 00:14:33,137 --> 00:14:37,617 Speaker 4: time at home. Around noon, I sat down and I 265 00:14:37,657 --> 00:14:40,057 Speaker 4: was going to eat my lunch. You know what that's 266 00:14:40,057 --> 00:14:42,777 Speaker 4: like as a mother, those of you with children, You 267 00:14:42,977 --> 00:14:45,137 Speaker 4: just need a minute sometimes to sit down and take 268 00:14:45,177 --> 00:14:45,737 Speaker 4: a deep breath. 269 00:14:45,737 --> 00:14:46,777 Speaker 1: And so that's what I did. 270 00:14:47,257 --> 00:14:50,377 Speaker 4: And my phone rang and it was an unknown number 271 00:14:50,457 --> 00:14:52,657 Speaker 4: I didn't know, so I just sent it to voicemail. 272 00:14:53,217 --> 00:14:56,657 Speaker 4: And they called again, and I sent it to voicemail again, 273 00:14:56,857 --> 00:14:58,537 Speaker 4: and then it happened again. So I sent it to 274 00:14:58,617 --> 00:15:00,577 Speaker 4: voicemail for the third time. And when I did that, 275 00:15:00,617 --> 00:15:03,977 Speaker 4: they left a message. And so I listened to the 276 00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:07,977 Speaker 4: message and it that your husband has been in an accident. 277 00:15:08,017 --> 00:15:12,617 Speaker 4: You need to get to the hospital immediately. And I just, 278 00:15:13,537 --> 00:15:18,617 Speaker 4: I mean, my heart was pounding. I didn't know what 279 00:15:18,857 --> 00:15:21,777 Speaker 4: to do. I started I started panicking in that moment, 280 00:15:21,777 --> 00:15:24,577 Speaker 4: and I just grabbed my kids and we ran out 281 00:15:24,617 --> 00:15:28,097 Speaker 4: the door and I sped down the highway and on 282 00:15:28,137 --> 00:15:33,177 Speaker 4: our way to the hospital, I got a phone call 283 00:15:33,217 --> 00:15:35,657 Speaker 4: confirming that Andrew didn't make it. 284 00:15:36,657 --> 00:15:42,777 Speaker 1: And in a minute, in a second, our whole world crumbled. 285 00:15:43,097 --> 00:15:48,897 Speaker 4: Beneath our feet. We were tossed upside down and just shattered. 286 00:15:49,497 --> 00:15:52,937 Speaker 4: So I had to tell my children the thing that 287 00:15:53,217 --> 00:15:57,657 Speaker 4: no mother ever thinks that they would ever share with 288 00:15:57,737 --> 00:16:00,337 Speaker 4: their children. And I had to say, like they said, 289 00:16:00,377 --> 00:16:02,577 Speaker 4: Daddy is daddy okay, And I said. 290 00:16:02,897 --> 00:16:07,537 Speaker 1: Daddy's with Jesus. And so we all just wept. 291 00:16:08,017 --> 00:16:10,057 Speaker 4: And as soon as we pulled up to the hospital, 292 00:16:10,217 --> 00:16:12,577 Speaker 4: we got out onto the pavement and I can remember 293 00:16:12,617 --> 00:16:15,297 Speaker 4: grabbing my kid's hands. I didn't know what to do, 294 00:16:16,857 --> 00:16:20,537 Speaker 4: and all I knew in that moment to say was God, 295 00:16:20,897 --> 00:16:22,737 Speaker 4: I don't know what you're doing, but. 296 00:16:22,777 --> 00:16:23,497 Speaker 1: I trust you. 297 00:16:24,777 --> 00:16:26,937 Speaker 4: I've got this eight six and a two year old 298 00:16:26,937 --> 00:16:30,977 Speaker 4: that are now fatherless, and life as we know it 299 00:16:31,017 --> 00:16:32,817 Speaker 4: is just completely gone. 300 00:16:37,457 --> 00:16:40,417 Speaker 1: Those early days of grief were so messy. 301 00:16:40,897 --> 00:16:43,697 Speaker 4: And they were so uncharted, and to be honest, I 302 00:16:43,737 --> 00:16:47,897 Speaker 4: didn't even know what grief really meant until I was 303 00:16:48,057 --> 00:16:51,097 Speaker 4: in the place that I was grieving with everything inside 304 00:16:51,137 --> 00:16:51,297 Speaker 4: of me. 305 00:16:51,377 --> 00:16:56,017 Speaker 1: I mean, I was not eating. I had a best friend. 306 00:16:56,417 --> 00:16:58,817 Speaker 4: That stood by my side through so much of those 307 00:16:58,857 --> 00:17:01,097 Speaker 4: early days, and she would come over. She bought a 308 00:17:01,097 --> 00:17:03,657 Speaker 4: blender and she would come over and make me smoothies 309 00:17:04,617 --> 00:17:06,097 Speaker 4: just so that I could eat. 310 00:17:06,417 --> 00:17:08,217 Speaker 1: And my kids. 311 00:17:07,936 --> 00:17:12,577 Speaker 4: Were heartbroken, and I was so beyond heartbroken for them. 312 00:17:13,057 --> 00:17:14,297 Speaker 1: And so you take like. 313 00:17:14,417 --> 00:17:21,417 Speaker 4: Four broken hearts in the mix, and it was extremely 314 00:17:21,497 --> 00:17:25,057 Speaker 4: messy and very hard, and the days were very long 315 00:17:25,297 --> 00:17:28,977 Speaker 4: and disorienting. There were some days that I couldn't tell 316 00:17:29,057 --> 00:17:32,776 Speaker 4: up from down and left from right. I trusted that 317 00:17:32,817 --> 00:17:35,897 Speaker 4: God had a plan through it all, because you know, 318 00:17:35,977 --> 00:17:40,897 Speaker 4: I had built my life on him. Even when everything 319 00:17:41,057 --> 00:17:43,977 Speaker 4: fell apart, I was like, God, I don't know what 320 00:17:44,057 --> 00:17:45,617 Speaker 4: you're doing, but. 321 00:17:45,737 --> 00:17:48,897 Speaker 1: I trust you. And I had to make myself say that. 322 00:17:49,017 --> 00:17:51,097 Speaker 4: Even when I didn't see it, and even when I 323 00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:54,057 Speaker 4: didn't feel it, I didn't know what God was doing. 324 00:17:54,137 --> 00:17:56,417 Speaker 1: I would question, like, why did this happen? 325 00:17:56,777 --> 00:17:59,937 Speaker 4: Why andrew all people like he was the best man 326 00:18:00,337 --> 00:18:02,817 Speaker 4: on this earth. You know, you just have all of 327 00:18:02,857 --> 00:18:06,657 Speaker 4: these questions and you don't have answers. But those early 328 00:18:06,817 --> 00:18:12,497 Speaker 4: days trying to move forward, it was just so intense 329 00:18:12,577 --> 00:18:14,897 Speaker 4: and painful, but the Lord was so. 330 00:18:15,057 --> 00:18:18,577 Speaker 1: Faithful to meet me in every moment. 331 00:18:18,737 --> 00:18:20,817 Speaker 4: And I could lay my head on my pillow at 332 00:18:20,977 --> 00:18:23,936 Speaker 4: night and look over the day, and I could see 333 00:18:24,017 --> 00:18:27,657 Speaker 4: where he brought that person to speak that word into me. 334 00:18:27,897 --> 00:18:30,377 Speaker 4: I could see when I would open up the Word 335 00:18:30,377 --> 00:18:33,417 Speaker 4: of God that it was like his promises and his 336 00:18:33,417 --> 00:18:36,377 Speaker 4: love were like illuminating off the page, and they were 337 00:18:36,417 --> 00:18:40,257 Speaker 4: bringing sustenance to my life. The Word of God became 338 00:18:40,297 --> 00:18:43,737 Speaker 4: my everything, so much so that I remember not wanting 339 00:18:43,777 --> 00:18:46,497 Speaker 4: to go anywhere without it. When you get to that 340 00:18:46,617 --> 00:18:50,537 Speaker 4: place of desperation and you've got nothing left, you realize 341 00:18:50,577 --> 00:18:53,857 Speaker 4: that like God's Word, you feel the life in it. 342 00:18:54,217 --> 00:18:57,417 Speaker 4: And for me, I had loved Jesus my whole life, truly, 343 00:18:58,137 --> 00:19:01,737 Speaker 4: but it wasn't until I lost everything that my faith. 344 00:19:01,617 --> 00:19:05,057 Speaker 1: Grew legs in the fire. So it was walking. 345 00:19:04,697 --> 00:19:08,417 Speaker 4: Through those fires times and those fiery trials and that 346 00:19:08,577 --> 00:19:13,297 Speaker 4: profound loss where Jesus met me and he is like, 347 00:19:13,417 --> 00:19:16,057 Speaker 4: you are not alone, and you're not going to walk alone, 348 00:19:16,977 --> 00:19:20,817 Speaker 4: And little by little, step by step me going God, I. 349 00:19:20,777 --> 00:19:23,417 Speaker 1: Trust you, I trust you, I trust you. 350 00:19:24,257 --> 00:19:28,457 Speaker 4: He met me there with strength and love and power 351 00:19:29,257 --> 00:19:39,897 Speaker 4: and life after experiencing a loss, you're in it every 352 00:19:39,937 --> 00:19:43,897 Speaker 4: single day, day in and day out. It doesn't the 353 00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:47,257 Speaker 4: pain doesn't leave you. But yet the world moves on. 354 00:19:47,537 --> 00:19:51,577 Speaker 4: And one of the hardest seasons for me, other than 355 00:19:51,617 --> 00:19:56,617 Speaker 4: the immediate aftermath and having to bury the love of 356 00:19:56,657 --> 00:19:59,457 Speaker 4: my life and wondering how I was going to take 357 00:19:59,497 --> 00:20:03,696 Speaker 4: my next breath, I mean, truly, it was that devastating. 358 00:20:04,217 --> 00:20:09,177 Speaker 4: The hardest seasons I think following that was when the 359 00:20:09,297 --> 00:20:13,617 Speaker 4: dust settles and everybody moves on. But yet you're still 360 00:20:13,657 --> 00:20:16,137 Speaker 4: tucking your babies in at night by yourself, and they're like, 361 00:20:16,217 --> 00:20:19,456 Speaker 4: I want daddy, and I'm like, I can't give me daddy. 362 00:20:19,497 --> 00:20:23,617 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. That's just real life stuff. Holding the 363 00:20:23,657 --> 00:20:28,496 Speaker 4: grief of my kid's heart and mine was impossible for 364 00:20:28,537 --> 00:20:32,377 Speaker 4: me to bear. So I learned so much during that 365 00:20:32,457 --> 00:20:36,577 Speaker 4: time about releasing my children. And I can remember there 366 00:20:36,577 --> 00:20:40,977 Speaker 4: were some early days where I would take excerpts from 367 00:20:40,977 --> 00:20:43,777 Speaker 4: the Jesus Calling Book and I would write them in 368 00:20:43,777 --> 00:20:47,617 Speaker 4: my journal and there would be a line that just 369 00:20:47,737 --> 00:20:51,817 Speaker 4: struck me in that moment, and it's just so beautiful 370 00:20:52,457 --> 00:20:55,617 Speaker 4: when you see a nugget of truth that comes from 371 00:20:55,657 --> 00:20:58,657 Speaker 4: the Word of God and something that you can. 372 00:20:58,537 --> 00:21:00,577 Speaker 1: Remind yourself of what's true, even when. 373 00:21:00,497 --> 00:21:04,737 Speaker 4: Your circumstances look anything like what it is that you're 374 00:21:04,777 --> 00:21:10,617 Speaker 4: contending for. To know that this is what's truth is immovable. 375 00:21:11,097 --> 00:21:14,617 Speaker 4: It's not going to change shape and waiver like my 376 00:21:14,657 --> 00:21:15,177 Speaker 4: life does. 377 00:21:15,297 --> 00:21:17,177 Speaker 1: Truth is truth. 378 00:21:17,537 --> 00:21:20,777 Speaker 4: The scripture is so clear that he is a father 379 00:21:20,897 --> 00:21:24,657 Speaker 4: to the fatherless and that great will be your children's peace. 380 00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:28,457 Speaker 1: He loves our children, and I have to remember this. 381 00:21:28,977 --> 00:21:33,097 Speaker 4: He loves my kids more than I ever could imagine, 382 00:21:33,777 --> 00:21:35,217 Speaker 4: and he has their best too. 383 00:21:35,377 --> 00:21:36,777 Speaker 1: So it's one of those things. 384 00:21:36,497 --> 00:21:39,216 Speaker 4: That I couldn't fix it, but I had to just 385 00:21:39,297 --> 00:21:43,297 Speaker 4: keep releasing them to God and just love on them 386 00:21:43,457 --> 00:21:47,696 Speaker 4: and give them the space to talk, give them a 387 00:21:47,737 --> 00:21:50,736 Speaker 4: space to grief, give them a space to cry, whatever 388 00:21:50,777 --> 00:21:52,937 Speaker 4: it is. And it seemed that those moments of grief 389 00:21:52,977 --> 00:21:55,017 Speaker 4: would always come up when you least expect them. 390 00:21:55,577 --> 00:21:57,817 Speaker 1: They would always come up out of nowhere. 391 00:21:58,137 --> 00:22:04,017 Speaker 4: Or my youngest would remember he was in the backseat and. 392 00:22:02,977 --> 00:22:05,057 Speaker 1: He's like, what happened to daddy again? 393 00:22:06,057 --> 00:22:08,897 Speaker 4: And Andrew was in an accident and he was actually 394 00:22:08,937 --> 00:22:12,657 Speaker 4: struck by a charter bus on the highway. So having 395 00:22:12,697 --> 00:22:15,977 Speaker 4: to tell your three year old that it was things 396 00:22:15,977 --> 00:22:19,577 Speaker 4: that I never could imagine that I would live through. 397 00:22:20,017 --> 00:22:22,497 Speaker 4: But in those moments, God just gave me courage and 398 00:22:22,537 --> 00:22:25,377 Speaker 4: a strength to be able to tell my kids, but 399 00:22:25,457 --> 00:22:28,737 Speaker 4: to say, you know what, God's not done with us yet. 400 00:22:28,937 --> 00:22:32,457 Speaker 4: He's got more ahead for us. He's not going to 401 00:22:32,577 --> 00:22:34,617 Speaker 4: leave us. He's never going to leave us. He's never 402 00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:38,777 Speaker 4: gonna forsake us. And those moments where they were not 403 00:22:38,937 --> 00:22:40,976 Speaker 4: polished by any means, I mean a lot of it 404 00:22:41,097 --> 00:22:44,337 Speaker 4: was talking through tears and just saying I don't have answers, 405 00:22:44,537 --> 00:22:48,857 Speaker 4: kids like I have no answers, but I am trusting God. 406 00:22:48,897 --> 00:22:50,097 Speaker 1: So let's trust God together. 407 00:22:50,537 --> 00:22:54,696 Speaker 4: I will just encourage anyone listening that if you are 408 00:22:54,817 --> 00:22:57,377 Speaker 4: like God, where are you, I don't hear you, just 409 00:22:57,457 --> 00:23:00,257 Speaker 4: keep showing up, Just keep making even if it's five 410 00:23:00,377 --> 00:23:06,137 Speaker 4: minutes of space to listen, to pray, to read scripture, 411 00:23:06,857 --> 00:23:08,937 Speaker 4: to even just be honest with God and say, God, 412 00:23:08,977 --> 00:23:10,696 Speaker 4: I don't know what to say, I don't know what 413 00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:14,897 Speaker 4: to do, but I'm yours. God can do anything through 414 00:23:14,897 --> 00:23:20,217 Speaker 4: a life surrendered to him. I would love to close 415 00:23:20,257 --> 00:23:22,577 Speaker 4: us out today with an excerpt of a prayer from 416 00:23:22,617 --> 00:23:27,137 Speaker 4: Sarah Jung's prayer devotional Jesus Listens this is Jesus listens 417 00:23:27,257 --> 00:23:33,617 Speaker 4: February the eleventh, Pray with me, Beloved Jesus, I come 418 00:23:33,697 --> 00:23:38,417 Speaker 4: to you seeking to rest in your peace. The light 419 00:23:38,537 --> 00:23:42,417 Speaker 4: of your face shines upon me, blessing me with peace 420 00:23:42,537 --> 00:23:44,657 Speaker 4: that transcends all understanding. 421 00:23:45,537 --> 00:23:46,617 Speaker 1: Instead of trying. 422 00:23:46,337 --> 00:23:49,897 Speaker 4: To figure things out myself, I want to relax in 423 00:23:49,977 --> 00:23:55,417 Speaker 4: your presence, trusting that you know and understand everything. As 424 00:23:55,457 --> 00:23:59,657 Speaker 4: I lean on you in childlike dependence, I feel peaceful 425 00:23:59,777 --> 00:24:02,857 Speaker 4: and complete. This is how you created me to live 426 00:24:03,457 --> 00:24:07,177 Speaker 4: in close communion with you. I delight in this time 427 00:24:07,217 --> 00:24:11,417 Speaker 4: with you, enjoying awareness of your loving presence. When I'm 428 00:24:11,457 --> 00:24:16,216 Speaker 4: around other people, I tendicter to their expectations, real or imagined. 429 00:24:16,817 --> 00:24:19,976 Speaker 4: As I focus on pleasing them, my awareness of your 430 00:24:20,017 --> 00:24:23,857 Speaker 4: presence grows dim I become exhausted by my efforts to 431 00:24:23,897 --> 00:24:27,137 Speaker 4: gain the approval of others. When I live this way, 432 00:24:27,257 --> 00:24:30,457 Speaker 4: I offer people dry crumbs rather than the living water 433 00:24:30,617 --> 00:24:31,137 Speaker 4: of your. 434 00:24:30,977 --> 00:24:34,537 Speaker 1: Spirit flowing through me. I know this is not your 435 00:24:34,657 --> 00:24:35,257 Speaker 1: way for me. 436 00:24:35,817 --> 00:24:38,417 Speaker 4: Please help me to stay in touch with you even 437 00:24:38,537 --> 00:24:40,257 Speaker 4: during my busiest moments. 438 00:24:40,737 --> 00:24:42,456 Speaker 1: As I live in the light of your peace. 439 00:24:43,017 --> 00:24:46,417 Speaker 4: May the Spirit give me words of grace to speak 440 00:24:46,497 --> 00:24:51,377 Speaker 4: into the lives of others in your gracious name Amen. 441 00:24:54,017 --> 00:24:57,977 Speaker 3: To learn more about Courtney pray Duke, visit www dot 442 00:24:58,097 --> 00:25:01,537 Speaker 3: Courtney Preyeduke dot com and be sure to check out 443 00:25:01,537 --> 00:25:04,577 Speaker 3: her new book, And She Got Up, Shattered By Loss 444 00:25:04,657 --> 00:25:08,496 Speaker 3: Restored by Ga Says when it releases in February. If 445 00:25:08,537 --> 00:25:11,577 Speaker 3: you'd like to hear more stories about transformative grace, check 446 00:25:11,577 --> 00:25:17,017 Speaker 3: out our interview with China Phillips. Next time on the 447 00:25:17,097 --> 00:25:20,657 Speaker 3: Jesus Calling podcast will celebrate our five hundredth episode with 448 00:25:20,777 --> 00:25:23,696 Speaker 3: actress Sarah Drew. Known for her work on projects like 449 00:25:23,737 --> 00:25:27,137 Speaker 3: Grey's Anatomy and Mom's Night Out. Sarah shares her passion 450 00:25:27,177 --> 00:25:31,057 Speaker 3: for relatable storytelling and creating real human connection both on 451 00:25:31,337 --> 00:25:32,657 Speaker 3: and off the set. 452 00:25:34,457 --> 00:25:39,857 Speaker 5: Telling a true, true story about somebody who's real and 453 00:25:40,257 --> 00:25:42,817 Speaker 5: doesn't have all the answers and screws up and then 454 00:25:42,857 --> 00:25:47,057 Speaker 5: has to repair and then decides to believe something slightly 455 00:25:47,137 --> 00:25:50,417 Speaker 5: different than what she believed before and then have to reconcile. 456 00:25:50,457 --> 00:25:54,337 Speaker 1: And that's my life. That's what we all go through. 457 00:25:54,377 --> 00:25:59,297 Speaker 5: That is a real human journey, whether it's a faith 458 00:25:59,377 --> 00:26:08,217 Speaker 5: journey or any other kind of human journey. 459 00:26:10,857 --> 00:26:13,377 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to the Jesus Calling stories of Faith 460 00:26:13,457 --> 00:26:17,297 Speaker 3: Podcast on the Live Audio Network. Every week, we'll bring 461 00:26:17,337 --> 00:26:19,897 Speaker 3: you stories from people who share their journeys of faith 462 00:26:20,257 --> 00:26:23,936 Speaker 3: and how prayer and a relationship with God transformed their lives. 463 00:26:24,737 --> 00:26:28,097 Speaker 3: Be sure to follow us on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or 464 00:26:28,137 --> 00:26:31,417 Speaker 3: wherever you listen to podcasts, and leave us a review 465 00:26:31,497 --> 00:26:35,697 Speaker 3: so others can be inspired weekly by these stories of faith. 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