1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Life Audio Today's episode of Timeless Wisdom. 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: I love your show, and I really respect your opinion, 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: so I wanted to ask you. Maybe I just haven't 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: heard you talk about this much, but I'm needing to 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: know more information about how you can let your husband 6 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: know that you understand his male sexual nature without giving 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: him permission to act on it. 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: That's coming up on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Welcome 9 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of hours 10 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: of Dennis's lectures courses in classic radio programs had to 11 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles. Go to Dennisprager dot com. 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 3: Let Dennis be Dennis. I agree with that. That's the 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 3: way it's worked for me in life. My parents let 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: me be me at fourteen. At fourteen, I became a 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 3: happy man and haven't changed. And my employers let me 16 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: be me, my wife lets me be me, and it's 17 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 3: worked that well. Hi, everybody, this is the ari something gentlemen, 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: ever's on your mind about you, about me, about life, 19 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: about death, And of course take the music in and 20 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what else, Okay, whatever it might be, 21 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: including needless to say Fountain Pens Audio equipment, photography, classical music, 22 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:52,639 Speaker 3: and cigar. One of the rare times I need go five. 23 00:01:53,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you very much. Thank you, Gary in 24 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: New York City. Dennis Prager, thank you for calling. Oh 25 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: are you sir? Okay, thank you. 26 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 4: Thank you for taking the call. I'll be brief, I 27 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 4: guess if I can, and it's going to be a 28 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: complete opposite call from the Arizona call. I've been married 29 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: about seven years. I have a young son with my wife, 30 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 4: and we have not been intimate for three years. This 31 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: April will be three years. I remember the day. 32 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: And how old are you? 33 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: I'm thirty seven, right, and how old. 34 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: Is your wife? 35 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: Thirty four? 36 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: Okay? When how long have you been married? Ten years? 37 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: Seven years, seven years until three years ago? Was that 38 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: part of your relationship? 39 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 4: Okay, great question. Yes and no. There were some financial 40 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: hardships which she attributed to, but prior to that there 41 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: was also there was a lack of real intimacy. I 42 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: feel on her side, she'll attributed to one day this, 43 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 4: one day, that, one day this, And it's gotten to 44 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 4: a point now where I love her unconditioned. 45 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: Well, I. 46 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 4: Should stop throwing out terms, but I love her, and 47 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 4: it's gotten to the point where she told me, well, listen, 48 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 4: it's not going to happen. I think we've lost attraction 49 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 4: to each other. But at the same time, she's adamant, 50 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 4: you're not going to get a divorce. If you want, 51 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 4: you can go out and get what you need intimacy wise, 52 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: and and you know, you just have to tell me 53 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: about it. So I I heard that, I'm like, oh, 54 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: that's great, but you know, when it comes to reality, 55 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: that doesn't that doesn't work. And it's gotten to the 56 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 4: point where I created into some intimacy so much that 57 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: I mean the good looking girl behind the counter getting 58 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 4: my change back, you know, her fingers touched my palm, 59 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: like ah, female touch, that's how bad it is. And 60 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: I'm just I wouldn't say lost. I just don't know 61 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 4: what I should do. She's adam and she doesn't want 62 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 4: to break up the family or you go ahead, break 63 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: up the family. See what that's going to do to 64 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 4: our child? 65 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: And I'm now, well, actually she would be the one 66 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: breaking it up because part of male female marriage is 67 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: it's sexual intimacy. It's there is no religious tradition, there 68 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: is no secular idea that would hold. 69 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: Otherwise, I just a couple of disclaimers is not to 70 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 4: really throw her under the bus, per se, but she's 71 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 4: I think it runs in her family, the lack of 72 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 4: interest in intimacy for whatever reason. I have brother in laws, 73 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: et cetera. So, and I've discussed not everything with them, 74 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: but just certain things. And you know, she told me 75 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 4: to tell her about it so that she understands what's 76 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: going on. So I have to tell her. And I'm 77 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: not allowed to get close emotion wise with the person 78 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: another another person. 79 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: And does she does she have any does she appreciate 80 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: the notion that each each spouse has certain obligations to 81 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 3: the other. 82 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: It's so funny some days she's extremely coagent that way, 83 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 4: and she believed that, but then you know, a couple 84 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 4: of days later, it's, I mean, there is we are 85 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: religious people, and that has that also plays. 86 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: A role in Well, I don't understand if that's I 87 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 3: didn't know whether you were or not that, but I 88 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: did thinking you might be. I said there was no 89 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 3: religious tradition that would defend her decision. 90 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: Correct, Correct, it's you mentioned before we went on break 91 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: and you said that there are so many there are 92 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: a lot of men that are going through this, and 93 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: I it's it's it's very it's a very painful thing 94 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 4: to go through because I feel it's it's natural and 95 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: this is how a relationship should be. And at the 96 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 4: same time, I feel like a bad guy because what 97 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 4: do you what do you need it for? What do 98 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: you you know? This is I guess from her side, 99 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: what do you need it for? It's it's not that 100 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: big of a deal. And you know we're we well well. 101 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: She then she she, she she's wrong. It's a very 102 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 3: big deal and you do need it. You would you 103 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: would give up a house to have relations with her. 104 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: It's so funny, you would live in a tent. 105 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: I've said, I've said, you know for you know, I've 106 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 4: say I said things that are you know, similar to 107 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: that with more Yes. 108 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: No, she's simply wrong and I don't know, and she 109 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: look so so it's clear you it has to be 110 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: dealt with you. You can't go on forever like this. 111 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: If the marriage breaks up because she won't bend on 112 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: this matter, then she is the one who broke up 113 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 3: the marriage, not you. Just as if you decided to 114 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: spend the rest of your marriage watching television and not 115 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: earning a living I think, uh, and then say, look, hey, 116 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: hey honey, you wanna you wanna, you know, have a divorce. 117 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: You're the one who's breaking up the relationship. No, no, no, 118 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: the one who sits and watches TV rather than goes 119 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: to work is the one who's breaking up the relationship. 120 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: She she is the one who would be doing this. 121 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: So there, there, there is. There is a regular marital therapist, 122 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: says ideally sex therapist. There is a religious person. I 123 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 3: cannot imagine a priest, rabbi, or minister taking her side. 124 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: I take it back, I can imagine anything, but it 125 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: is hard to believe that that would exist. Or simply say, look, 126 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: if this is what it is, I cannot live this way, 127 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: and so we will have to amicably, to the extent possible, 128 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: amicably split. I hold you responsible because this is an 129 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: obligation in marriage. It is as much an obligation as 130 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: anything else, anything else that there is in marriage. And 131 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 3: people need to know that the marriage is a contract 132 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: more than any other thing. It is a contract. I 133 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 3: give you x y z, you give me abc, or 134 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 3: we give each other x y z, however you wish 135 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: to put it. It is a contract. It sounds non 136 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: romant antick. The irony is the contract will create more 137 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: romance than no contract will. 138 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: This episode of timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 139 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: Okay, let's go to dry Ridge, Kentucky and Dwyane. This 140 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: is the famous Dwayne of dry Ridge. 141 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 5: Hey, Dennis taking the call. Another question for you about 142 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 5: girls are specifically wife's going on girl just strictly girl 143 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 5: trips in the last year, calendar year, my wife she 144 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 5: planned and went on coming up her beer fourth trips. 145 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 5: And we're talking four four days to a week and 146 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 5: flying places, you know, not just really short trips and 147 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 5: without going we have two kids, and without going on 148 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 5: any family vacation and I don't know. And then I 149 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 5: asked her if we could go on a trip, and 150 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 5: she's like, well, we could probably go on a weekend 151 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 5: trip because I don't know, we you know, could figure 152 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 5: out enough to do and I can't. I don't know 153 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: where to go with it. I don't know what she's 154 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 5: trying to tell me. 155 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: I mean a really well, I think I think you 156 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: need to go. I didn't hear her side. I always 157 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: mentioned that, but based on what you've told me, I 158 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: think you need to go to either or both of 159 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: the following, either to a marital therapist uh and or 160 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: to a new firm Dwayne, I'm sorry this uh is 161 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:50,199 Speaker 3: is not good for our marriage or or, which may 162 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: more likely be the case, symbolizes that our marriage is 163 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: in trouble, that that you will take all these trips 164 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: away for me and away from the family, and that's 165 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 3: what gives you your greatest pleasure is a statement about me. 166 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest. I'm not talking ego. I'm 167 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: talking reality, because it does. I mean, if her response 168 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 3: is I don't you know, I hope we'll find something 169 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 3: to do over a weekend, but four times a year 170 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 3: she's taking a weekend to four day trips with girlfriends, 171 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: I gotta say it. It seems to me to speak 172 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: of a troubled relationship. I'm sorry to say that to you. 173 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 5: I thank you, I'm sorry, thank you. 174 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Yeah. It's it's almost as if, 175 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: I mean, it's as close as to making an announcement 176 00:11:53,440 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: that I think our a relationship is trouble. I'm dubious 177 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: about men doing that. Frankly, I think on the rare 178 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: occasions you have to have a vacation, you want to 179 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 3: do it with a person who should be your best friend, 180 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: your spouse. 181 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 182 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 183 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: Hi, everybody, you're listening to the Dennis Prager Show. This 184 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: is the Male Female Hour. And despite the events in 185 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: the Middle East, which I discussed before and we'll discuss 186 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 3: again next hour, we don't. We rarely defer what I 187 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: call my dedicated hours. There is more to life than 188 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: current events, the events in your own lives. In Male 189 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: Female hours one of those examples or one of those 190 00:12:55,440 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: hours that deals with that. This is an open line 191 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: Male Female Hour. Haven't had one since May, but I have. 192 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: You'll see. There are a number of issues that you 193 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: folks raise you may want to comment on, including my question. 194 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: I have an instant admiration for a guy who gets 195 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 3: married at twenty five? Twenty four? Am I wrong? All right, 196 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: let's go to Auburn, Maine. I think it's the first 197 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: call I've ever gotten from Auburn, Maine. Bethany High, Hi. 198 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 3: Where is Auburn in your gigantic state? 199 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 6: It's about forty five minutes above Portland. 200 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: Is it nice there? 201 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 6: It's pretty nice. 202 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: Did you grow up there? I did, well, Thank you 203 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 3: for calling. 204 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 6: Well, thank you. You've talked about how women should always 205 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 6: try to keep up their appearance and be in shape, 206 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 6: and maybe even to the extent of getting plastic surgery. 207 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 6: Should their husbands want them to be more attractive or 208 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 6: find something unattractive about them? You want? They should be 209 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 6: always acting as if it's still just a relationship, I 210 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 6: guess dating relationship. Does that go for husbands too? Should 211 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 6: they try to maintain their their physical state? And you know, 212 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 6: stuff like that can let wives ask their husbands to 213 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 6: work out more to be more attractive. What's your opinion 214 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 6: on that? 215 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: Are you married? 216 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 6: I am, and your age twenty eight? 217 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 3: What most attracted you to your husband? 218 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 6: His personality, his interests, some he was in better shape 219 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 6: when we were dating, So a combination of all those things, 220 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 6: but mostly his personality and his his goals and his values. 221 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 3: Before I answer you directly, I have to go to 222 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: the larger question. How do you account for the large 223 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: number of beautiful women married to men who are not 224 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 3: nearly as physically attractive? 225 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 6: I don't know. I guess their personalities and values and 226 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 6: everything outweigh that and women aren't quite as. 227 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 3: Visual as men. Well, if that's the case, then why 228 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 3: isn't that somewhat of an answer to your question? If 229 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: if it's not as important, If looks aren't as important 230 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: to women, and I assert that they are not as 231 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: they are to men, then why isn't that a self 232 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: answering question that for one sex, how you look is 233 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 3: more important? I mean if a man. If a man 234 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 3: looks gorgeous but has no particular ambition in life, is 235 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: happy to basically take care of the house, most women 236 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: will not be attracted to him. But if a woman 237 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: is stunning and does not have any particular career ambitions, 238 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: the vast majority of men will be tremendously attracted to her. Right, 239 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: So I'm not negating the desire that a man stay 240 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: in shape, but I'm saying that there's no equivalence. 241 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 6: Right Is it okay to to ask you know or 242 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 6: want your husband to go back to being in shape 243 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 6: or or you know, like you know what I mean? 244 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: Well, everything is okay. The question is what is behind it? 245 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: Is there a fear of getting older, which I told 246 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: I'm not saying is wrong. I'm just I want to 247 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 3: understand what's behind it. If you agree with my suppositions, 248 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: then I would like to know what's behind it. Is 249 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 3: it a fear that he's letting himself be different than 250 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: the man you met? I think there's something beyond man. 251 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm dying to feel those biceps. 252 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 6: Maybe it's more of like the discipline that was behind 253 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 6: going out and running versus not going out and running anymore, 254 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 6: or something like that. 255 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 3: Is he is he equally disciplined in going to work 256 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: and providing the two of you with an income? 257 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 7: Yes? 258 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 8: Definitely? 259 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 3: Is he equally funny? Is he equally attentive to you? 260 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 9: Yes? 261 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 3: Then I would let it go. Okay, you're a wonderful woman, 262 00:17:55,200 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: you really are, Oh boy, look like with like with 263 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 3: our children, so too with our friends and our spouses. 264 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 3: Here's a very big rule. You have to know when 265 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: to drive them crazy. You've got to pick I wouldn't 266 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 3: say your fights, but you have to pick your demands 267 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: very carefully, and you've got to prioritize. And generally men 268 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 3: don't like to be pushed in most areas by their wife. 269 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 3: I mean encouraged absolutely, et cetera, et cetera. And uh, 270 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 3: maybe he would just desire to do it again watching 271 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: you do it. I don't. I don't know, I don't know. 272 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to some more of your calls 273 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 3: here and Tory in Fort Worth, Texas. Hi Tory, Dennis. 274 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 8: Prager, Hi Dennis. I am so happy to be able 275 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 8: to talk to you. 276 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. 277 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 9: I Before I say. 278 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 8: What I called for, I want to let you know 279 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 8: that there have been times when the events surrounding us 280 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 8: have been dire and it has been your calm and 281 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 8: thoughtful voice that has helped me through that day. 282 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: Well, I'm so happy to hear that. Thank you. 283 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 8: Well, I'm calling because my husband and I both got 284 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 8: married at a very young age. He was twenty two 285 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 8: and I was twenty and. 286 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 7: Disago. 287 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 8: Unlike your feeling that most men don't want to marry young, 288 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 8: and I actually do agree with that, must don't. My 289 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 8: husband was unusual. He always wanted to be married, and 290 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 8: once he's settled on me, that was it. He wanted 291 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 8: to get married. I, on the other hand, was whoa 292 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 8: now hang on? And my reason was because I felt 293 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 8: like we were too young, but because I had come 294 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 8: from generations of divorce and was uncertain of my own 295 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 8: ability to keep a marriage strong. But he was undaunted 296 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 8: and we have just celebrated our twenty ninth winning anniversary. 297 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 3: Well, what a beautiful story, and it vindicates at least 298 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 3: your story vindicates my point about men marrying young and 299 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: why I admire them Back in the moment. 300 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: This episode of timeless wisdom will continue right after this. 301 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: Your beloved dog and a stranger are both drowning. They 302 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: can only save one. Who do you save? Every time? 303 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: Dennis Praeger asks that question, is audience splits three ways. 304 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: One third chooses the dog, one third chooses the stranger, 305 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: and one third are sure? 306 00:20:59,359 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 3: Why? 307 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: Because we live in an age where increasingly feelings define 308 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: right and wrong. But if morality is based on emotion, 309 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,239 Speaker 1: then murder, rape, and theft are just opinions. And if 310 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: people feel justified, why is rioting or destruction wrong at all? 311 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: In his new book If. 312 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 3: There Is No God, Dennis. 313 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: Prager explains why civilizations cannot survive without objective morality and 314 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: why Judeo Christian values shape the moral foundations of the 315 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: free world. 316 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 10: If you claim that certain things are good certain things 317 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 10: are evil, independent of how you feel about it, you 318 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 10: are an effect affirming God. 319 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: If there Is No God by Dennis Prager, available now 320 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: at preggerstore dot com. That's Prigger store dot com. Now 321 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 322 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 3: So there's the Male Female Hour. It's open lines on 323 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: whatever you want. I had thrown out the subject of 324 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: early marriage and why I admire men who do so. 325 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 3: But there are a lot of a lot of issues 326 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: that you're raising, and I really like that. Let's go. 327 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: We'll go again to fort Worth and Scott. Hello, Scott, Dennis. 328 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 7: Prager, Well, hello, mister Craig. You're nice to speak to you. 329 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: Thank you, sir. 330 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 7: You know I'm calling because I wanted to chastise you 331 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 7: a little bit for fitting to here couples that you 332 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 7: talked to after you do your seminars. You said earlier 333 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 7: that you approach the man to women and say how 334 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 7: lucky you are. And I think both you and I know, 335 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 7: really luck has very little to do with a successful marriage. 336 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: Well, the word successful is the key word here. I 337 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: say that luck has almost everything to do with a happy, 338 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: long term marriage. So you and I differ. Well, I 339 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 3: doubt very much a successful marriage. You're right, a happy marriage, 340 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 3: they're not the same. A happy marriage is overwhelmingly due 341 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: to the luck that you had in choosing the right person. 342 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 7: Well, but that's hardly luck, mister Praig, Right, doubt that 343 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 7: most men put all their girlfriends on a dart board 344 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 7: and throw a dark and pick the one that has 345 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 7: to be the lucky choice. 346 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: No, but I doubt that. But the number of people 347 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 3: who know at twenty five, let us say, or even thirty, 348 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 3: how that person or how they will be twenty five, 349 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 3: thirty five years later, it is impossible to know. And 350 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 3: they were very fortunate. 351 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 7: Well, they may be forciate. Don't you think that the 352 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 7: person you are twenty five years after you've been married 353 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 7: is dependent to a large extent and the person that 354 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 7: you're married to and the work and effort that you 355 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 7: put into your marriage and respect that you have to 356 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 7: your marriage, rather than just how someone happens to turn 357 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 7: out after twenty five years. 358 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: Yes, so what, you're very lucky that the person put 359 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: a lot of work into themselves. But it's not luck, No, 360 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 3: it is luck. Look what can I tell every long 361 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: term happy marriage I have known? All right, I'll just 362 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 3: I'll confine it to the narrow parameters of my own life. 363 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: Every long term happy marriage, I know the couple will 364 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 3: be the first to say how incredibly lucky they are 365 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: to have found this person at a relatively early age, 366 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 3: and that it turned out to be so good. That 367 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: doesn't mean there's no work. There's work. There's work in 368 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: everything in life. There's work getting up out of bed. 369 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 3: But you're still lucky if you have your health. 370 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 7: Well, I think you're lucky to find someone, no question 371 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 7: about that. But today, and I'm with you, I've been 372 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 7: married for twenty five years, have a terrific marriage, but 373 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 7: I either have been a lot of days and I 374 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 7: haven't felt that lucky. There's a lot of days I 375 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 7: just felt playing exhausted. 376 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 3: Well wait, wait, exhausted, exhausted with regard to your wife, 377 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 3: or exhausted about your daily routine. 378 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 7: Well, the combination of all of that, as you know, 379 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 7: I mean, well, all. 380 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: Right, but you got to isolate. You wake up on 381 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: frequent days thinking, ge, I'm not that lucky to be 382 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 3: married to this person. 383 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's obviously difficult to separate it completely, 384 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 7: but I think the work plays a much bigger role 385 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 7: than luck. For example, the girl that called early was 386 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 7: talking about are men do they need to have the 387 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 7: same responsibility to keep themselves looking good? I was just 388 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 7: going to say absolutely, because you may be lucky to 389 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 7: marry someone early who looks good, but it takes work 390 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 7: to look good when you're older, right, And. 391 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: I would say that any man who is married to 392 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 3: a woman who takes care of how she looks her 393 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: whole life, as my mother did for my father for 394 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: seventy three years, is a lucky man. Okay, well, you 395 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: know I'm very happy. It's why I took your call. 396 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: I love when people challenge what I say, and I'm 397 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 3: perfectly prepared to have us maintain a different view on that. 398 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: To have a long term marriage takes work. To have 399 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: a law long term happy marriage is largely luck. You 400 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: don't know how the person will be, and you're very 401 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: lucky if they are relatively moodless, take care of themselves, 402 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 3: supportive of you, happy disposition, good parent. You're pretty darn 403 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 3: lucky if that's what you found in a spouse, especially 404 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: if you married at a relatively earlier age. I'm Dennis Prager. 405 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom. 406 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: We'll continue right after this. 407 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 408 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: All right, Denver, Colorado, Britney Hi, Brittany Dennis Prager. 409 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 11: I wanted to call in Earlier you had proposed that 410 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 11: it's or talked about how women often call you and 411 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 11: say that you've really helped them under sand men, and 412 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 11: it seems that women actually have a lot more difficult 413 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 11: of a time understanding men than vice versa. And I 414 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 11: wanted to speak to where I think that comes from, 415 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 11: at least in the Christian world, in that while I 416 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 11: feel like Christians have come a long way in really 417 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 11: understanding femininity, there's an idea around right now about masculinity, 418 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 11: and particularly about masculine sexuality being this extremely tame, sort 419 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 11: of meek sing. And I say that because I recently 420 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 11: read a blog post on a prominent Christian website where 421 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 11: this woman said she was talking to girls about what 422 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 11: kind of relationships they want, and she said, girls, you 423 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 11: want you want a man who will kiss you on 424 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 11: the forehead instead of the one who wants to make 425 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 11: out with you. And my that is but it's not Wow, 426 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 11: it's not mel Mitcher. You should want to make out 427 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 11: with each other even you know, even if you're trying 428 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 11: to live a chase life. 429 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: That is such that is such an interesting, uh blog 430 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: post that you're citing. I hope you respond and say, well, 431 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: to be honest, I'm a Christian woman and frankly, I 432 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: want a guy who does want to make out with me. Yeah, 433 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm blad sorry. 434 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 11: And I loved that about my husband when we were 435 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 11: when we were dating, is that he was very open 436 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 11: about that and and even open we we want We 437 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 11: waited to have sex until we were married, but he 438 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 11: was open about I can't wait for that. 439 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: Yes, that's right, that's great, that's and may that continue here? 440 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you're twenty five. I hope you can call 441 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: me at forty five and say the same thing, and 442 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 3: you know, and forever, thank you. It's very important this. 443 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: There is a certain romanticization I don't think. I don't 444 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: know if it has anything to do with the Christian 445 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: websites or blog posts or Christian activism today. I have 446 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: no idea. But there is a romanticization of male sexual 447 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 3: nature that is just preposterous. This is the way men are, 448 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: and the issue is how they behave and that's the 449 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 3: that's the only issue. But do you want a man 450 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 3: who who prefers that, I mean, who wants to prefers 451 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: to kiss you on the forehead and to make out 452 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: with you. Wow, I'd like to meet that woman. I 453 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: really would the woman who wrote that. I don't know 454 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: if this is I don't The only thing I don't 455 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: know about Brittaney's call is whether it's really emblematic of 456 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 3: a lot of Christian thinking. Today. Let's go to Maggie 457 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 3: in Corona, California. Maggie Dennis Prager, I do have a question. 458 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 12: You do talk a lot about how have that instant 459 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 12: attraction when they see somebody, but then just as quickly 460 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 12: as it happens, it's gone, right. Well, how do we 461 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 12: process when it's somebody that maybe that they know, maybe 462 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 12: that they work with, that they see regularly, you know, 463 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 12: on the big screen for an hour in a movie, 464 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 12: that you know that your husband's attracted to, or you 465 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 12: know along those lines, how do we process that attraction 466 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 12: and what's going on in your husband? 467 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's a great idea to be 468 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: That's why I'm such a big advocate of the couple's 469 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: being open about this. The more men hide, the worst 470 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: things are. It's a sort of when when the it's 471 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: like a pressure cooker male sexuality, and if the the 472 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: lid can be taken off and the pressure released. It's 473 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: a lot better for everybody. And if he could say 474 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: to you, let me tell you the woman in that 475 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: that actress, it was such a turn on, And you say, boy, 476 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: I could see why. I mean, I'm a woman and 477 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: I could see why. I mean, if you the question 478 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: always comes back to how is your relationship? If you 479 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: have a good relationship and he is attracted to you, 480 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: it is irrelevant whether he was turned on for ninety 481 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: minutes in a movie with a stunning actress, irrelevant. 482 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 12: We do have a great relationship. 483 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 3: Okay that it's irrelevant. I promise you as a man, 484 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: it's irrelevant. 485 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 12: In fact, I wanted to tell you too. The only 486 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 12: thing I interrupt the male female hour for is if 487 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 12: he calls that's fair. 488 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 3: Does he know you're listening? 489 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 12: Yes? 490 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well he owes me a big time. 491 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: He does. 492 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: You're another terrific woman. He's very lucky to have you. 493 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: Don't worry. That's that's one of my pre university videos 494 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: that it's not yet ready but I made. Is is 495 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: he wants you? Your husband wants you. If your husband 496 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: doesn't want you, it's irrelevant what he sees. And if 497 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: he does want you. It's irrelevant what he sees, get it. 498 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 3: That's the point. If he wants you, he can he 499 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: can see the most stunning women all day and then 500 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: he comes back to the house and he wants you. 501 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 3: If he doesn't want you, he could be working with 502 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 3: at the zoo all day with just with just with 503 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: other species, on the presumption that that does nothing to 504 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: him erotically. Uh, and it won't help. So the issue 505 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 3: is what's going on between the two of you, not 506 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 3: what is catch his erotic eye during the day. Which 507 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 3: is good news, you see, But you can't have the 508 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 3: good news about male sexual nature till you assimilate the 509 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: bad news about its existence. We'll be back in a 510 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 3: moment the Male Female Hour, and I'm Dennis Prager. 511 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 512 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless Wisdom. 513 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 3: One A Praguer seven seven six. When they go well, 514 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: these open line once a quarter, I do it for 515 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 3: the Happiness hour once a quarter and the Male Female Hour. 516 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 3: They really work well. I get new topics as a 517 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: result of your calls. First of all, let me say 518 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 3: to both men and women, you must always regard yourselves 519 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 3: as dating to win the other. I don't like the 520 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 3: idea of dating. I won the person. I no longer 521 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 3: have to win the person over. You don't have that 522 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: in your job. I'll bet, I'll bet every one of 523 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 3: you feels you better do your best job or you 524 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: might lose your job. It is a job to be 525 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: a husband, it is a job to be a wife. 526 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: You did your best to get that person. Why don't 527 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 3: you do your best to keep that person. You can't 528 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 3: give me a rational response to negate my statement here. 529 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 3: There is no rational way to get around it. That's 530 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: one of the reasons I do not buy the idea 531 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: that you never have divorce, never has to divorce means 532 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 3: no matter how crappily I treat you, you will still 533 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 3: hire me, keep me hired, employed as your as your spouse, 534 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: permanent tenure. I don't. I don't buy it. I'm sorry. 535 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: I think it should be the last resort, needless to say. 536 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: But if it's impossible it it's then there's a Garran 537 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: tour that no matter how poorly you do in your job, 538 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: you're still hired. Many of you gave up thinking that 539 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to get to you with the 540 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 3: final segment coming and that rewards Kelly in Sarasota, Florida. 541 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 3: Hi Kelly, Hi Dennis. 542 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 13: I'm glad I'm the winner. 543 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: You're the winner. That's right. 544 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 13: I've heard you speak in the past about a CD 545 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 13: or a series of CDs that you have done. I'm 546 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 13: male sexuality and wanted to ask you if that would 547 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 13: be appropriate for a high school age young man. 548 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: I would be surprised if it weren't. But always when 549 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 3: parents ask this, I would just simply suggest that you 550 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 3: listen first and you make that call. From my perspective, 551 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 3: I would absolutely play that for my teenage child if 552 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 3: I had a teenage child. But that is a call 553 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 3: you have to make. I know how much good those 554 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 3: CDs have done for husbands and wives and for teenage girls. 555 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 3: Teenage girls need to know male sexuality, and this stuff 556 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 3: comes as a total stunning shock to the vast majority 557 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 3: of them for good reason. There's no way to intuit 558 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 3: male sexuality for a woman. There's just no way. Where 559 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: it's like asking people to understand Ardvarks asking women to 560 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: understand men. So so it's a great series, and let 561 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 3: me just say for everybody, they are four CDs an 562 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 3: Introduction to Male sexual Nature. There's a five minute free 563 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 3: course on Prager University, and then there's the four CD 564 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 3: paid course through the Prager store. 565 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 5: Okay, well, I. 566 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 13: Have a teenage daughter around the corner and not too 567 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 13: distant futures, so I'll get a double. 568 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: Well, the first day that she wants to wear a 569 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 3: very short skirt, play her the CDs. 570 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 8: OK, well, that it might be sooner than I think. 571 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm afraid so yes, exactly great, all right, I 572 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 3: thank you very much. Yeah. As a general rule, I 573 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 3: believe you know, clarity is our best friend. I say 574 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 3: that all the time, and it is certainly true in 575 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 3: this arena. However, I fully acknowledge, fully acknowledge that the 576 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 3: initial exposure in this case to the male sexual nature 577 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 3: can be a shattering experience for a woman, and especially 578 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 3: to the woman who wrote you want a man who 579 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 3: will kiss you on the forehead, not one who wants 580 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 3: to make out. If somebody really wrote that, she really 581 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 3: I need to speak to her immediately. 582 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: Tomorrow. Un timeless wisdom with Dennis Prigger. 583 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 3: If there is any word that has a really bad rap, 584 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: it is in fact revenge, and I want to talk 585 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 3: to you about it, because I want to tell you 586 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 3: that it is. It is misunderstood. So let's try to 587 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 3: explain what revenge is and then talk about when it 588 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 3: is it always wrong? Is having a desire for revenge 589 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 3: ad a bad thing human? And so on? Now, revenge 590 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 3: is essentially doing to another, getting back at another, as 591 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 3: we would say, for something bad that that person has done. 592 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: So I guess it would be if you, if you, 593 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 3: I guess, step on my toe and then I step 594 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 3: on your toe, That's that's revenge. Now, we say, and folks, 595 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 3: this is This is a really complex subject and I 596 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 3: want to simplify it as best as possible. But it 597 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 3: is complex because when we say that we believe in 598 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: punishment or justice but not revenge, I think we're fooling ourselves. 599 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 9: I grew up with a mother that suffered a lot 600 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 9: of disappointments in her life and never got over them, 601 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 9: and I just really felt at the time that it 602 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 9: was not my responsibility and that if I didn't let 603 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 9: the situation go, I would be just like my mom. 604 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 9: It haunts you because if you have an emotional spin 605 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 9: on the revenge. 606 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 4: Do you know what to say? 607 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 9: Sects your heart? 608 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 3: So therefore, what you should give up any desire to 609 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 3: have that person suffer. 610 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: Join us tomorrow to hear more on Timeless Wisdom with 611 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: Dennis Prager. 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