1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Love Offering Podcast. I'm your host, Rachel Adam's, 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 2: author of Everyday Prayers for Love, Learning to Love God, others, 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: and even yourself. Each week we dive into meaningful conversations 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: about how to live out the greatest commandment, loving God 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: with all of our heart's soul, mind and strength, and 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: loving our neighbors as ourselves. Whether through inspiring stories, practical wisdom, 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: or biblical truth. My hope is to encourage you to 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: love boldly, live faithfully, and reflect God's love in your 10 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: everyday life. Today, I'm honored to welcome Tanisha Yerby to 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: the show. Tanisha is the founder of the Christian Entrepreneur 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Organization and the author of From Dreams to Drive, Trust 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: God's Plan, Embrace your gifts, and walk in purpose. Through 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: her own journey of spiritual and professional growth, Tanisha combines 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: biblical wisdom with practical guidance to help women discover their 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 2: God given purpose and step boldly into their calling. Her 17 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: message encourages women to overcome fear and self doubt, trust 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: God's timing, and take faithful action as they pursue a life. 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: Of meaning and impact. Well. 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: Hello, Tanisha and welcome to the Love Offering Podcast. 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: I'm so happy to have you. 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk to you today. Thank you for 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: having me. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: So I have read your book cover to cover and 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: it's amazing. And it was Tony right before we hit 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: record that it was at the perfect time that I 27 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: needed it something going on in my life. I felt 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: like I needed to make a decision and your book 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 2: clearly helped me walk through it because one of the 30 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: things I struggle so much with, and the listeners know 31 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: this is insecurity and adequacy feeling. I don't have what 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: it takes, you know, fear, all of the things that 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,559 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about today. So I assume whether 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: it's I think it's a right assumption. Have you been 35 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: struggling with these feelings too? 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: It is, I feel like we all struggle with it 37 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. I think I don't know if it 38 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: ever like fully, you know, goes away, but I think 39 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: it's something that is very common, especially amongst women trying 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: to show up in the world and like pursue our 41 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: gifts and do the thing that God calls us to do. 42 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Definitely think it's common. 43 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So you right about moving from dreams to so 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: share about your journey and what this has looked like 45 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: in your own life and how God helped you move 46 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: from simply dreaming about your purpose to actively walking it out. 47 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I started out back in childhood. I used 48 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: to write all the time, and then as I grew older, 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: it was just something that kind of like just faded 50 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: to the background. So I picked up sports and track, basketball, cheerleading, 51 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: all the things, so writing became kind of like an afterthought. 52 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: And then as I grew older, I tried different things. 53 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: In entrepreneurship. I am what you would consider a multi 54 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: passionate person. So I feel like I'm good at everything, 55 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: and I want to do everything, and I want to 56 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: start a business from everything. And so eventually I got 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: to this point where I was like, Okay, I'm spinning 58 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: my wheels here. This is not going anywhere or where 59 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to go. And so I had my talk 60 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: with God and I was like, Okay, what do you 61 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: want me to do? And that is how we ended 62 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: up here. So he just said I want your voice, 63 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: and so I just started using my voice. 64 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to hear more of your voice, 65 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: but we're going to take every break to hear a 66 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 2: word from our sponsor, and when we come back, we'll 67 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: talk about overcoming fear, self doubt, and stepping into God's 68 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: calling with confidence. Welcome back. I am talking with Tanisha 69 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: Erbi about her book From Dreams to Drive and in it, Tanisha, 70 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: you speak directly to women who feel called to something 71 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: more but may feel stuck or uncertain. So why do 72 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: you think so many women struggle to fully step into 73 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: their God given purpose. 74 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: I think that we as women, you know, especially with 75 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: the digital world, where we're online and we see what 76 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: everyone else is doing, and that is easy to kind 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: of get into this comparison mode where you see everybody 78 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: else it seems like they have it figured out. It 79 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: seems like they were an overnight success. And then here 80 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: you are, like actually living out your own story and 81 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: you know that, oh my gosh, I'm not where I 82 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: want to be. I'm struggling to show up. You know, 83 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: they seem like they're confident, and I think that is 84 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: what keeps a lot of women stuck because I always 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: say that we're not really afraid of failing. We're afraid 86 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: of people seeing us fail, but we don't really want 87 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: to put ourselves out there, and we don't want people 88 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: to see like us being vulnerable and transparent and showing 89 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: all of our flaws. And so that is something that 90 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: really keeps us stuck from just stepping out. But I 91 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: think once we overcome that part, it's just so much 92 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: easier to just show up and say, you know what, Hey, 93 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: I don't really care what people think about it. This 94 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: is something that God has called me to do. I'm 95 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: going to show up. I have good intentions. I'm a human, 96 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm figuring this thing out. 97 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: It's so interesting you say that, because and that reson 98 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: nates with me, because that's very much my story. I 99 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: had to get to the point where a reverent fear 100 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: of God. I had more fear of God than I 101 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: did fear of man. If God has called me to this, 102 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: I don't want to disappoint him at the expense of 103 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: maybe being embarrassed by the people in my life. And 104 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: that is the point that I got to. Even this 105 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: past weekend, I spoke at a church and I was 106 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: just saying, Oh, I'm nervous, you know, and the pastor 107 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: actually looked at me and said, if you're nervous, it 108 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 2: could likely be because you're too focused on how you're 109 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: going to be perceived as opposed to just lifting God's 110 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: name on high and letting him be the focus. And 111 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: I thought, gosh, if that's not convicting, you know, And 112 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: so this is this is especially true of my experience. 113 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: And so another big theme in your book is overcoming 114 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 2: fear and self doubt. What are some of the most 115 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: common fears you see holding women back like people and 116 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: what the people will think? And how can we begin 117 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 2: to replace these fears with faith? 118 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: I think the common fears that we have is number one, 119 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: We're a fear of what people are going to think. Yep. 120 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Another one is we have a fear of failing. So 121 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: if I do this thing and it doesn't work out 122 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: the way that I want it to work out, what 123 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: does that look like? Did I waste my time? Did 124 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: I waste my resources? How far is it going to 125 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: knock me back? So we have that fear there, and 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: then just the fear of being outside of our comfort zone. 127 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm so comfortable where I am and if 128 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: I have to do this thing and step outside of 129 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: what I normally do and again and it doesn't work 130 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: out or people think I'm crazy? Like that is sometimes 131 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: a hard pill to swallow for people because it's not easy. 132 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's definitely not something easy to just go 133 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: from where you are to the place that God is 134 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: calling you to be. And I think that again, once 135 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: we can shift our mind around that, one of the 136 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: things that I had to do is I really had 137 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: to just go deep into scripture because we consume so 138 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: much information online in the digital world, and we see 139 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: what everyone else is doing, and then again that becomes 140 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: our internal thought, that's our internal dialogue where we're like, 141 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: you're not enough, you aren't far along enough to be 142 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: doing this, you shouldn't be doing this, You're not qualified. 143 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: And I think again, feeding yourself with scriptures, starting your 144 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: day off with a devotional saying, you know, just repeating 145 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: positive affirmations that are tied to God's word. Sometimes you 146 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: just have to say it before you'll believe it. There 147 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: was a time, and I talked about this in my 148 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: devotional where I would say these things and I really 149 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: didn't believe them in the beginning, but I had to 150 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: train myself to say it over and over until I 151 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: actually believed it. 152 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the enemy would love nothing more than 153 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: to keep us stuck and feed us those lives and 154 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: stop us from pursuing the dreams that God has called 155 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: us to do, like the purpose for our lives. 156 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: So talk to us about I think. 157 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: I mean one of the main ways is, like what 158 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: you just said, to speak truth over those lives and 159 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: to just just put yourself into scripture, surround yourself in community. 160 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: But I know I have found that in my own life, 161 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 2: like the enemy wants us to say. Second, if he's victorious, 162 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: think about if you don't pursue your dream what could happen. 163 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: I tell people that too. I'm like your dreams. You know, 164 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: the Bible tells us that we are to use our 165 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: gifts to serve others, and so I think I take 166 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: that to heart. So that means that these gifts that 167 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: I have, yes, I can benefit from them, but they're 168 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: not just for me. These are the things that God 169 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: has put inside of me to stir up someone else's gifts, 170 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: to light a fire in them. And so if I 171 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: don't do what I'm called to do, and I know 172 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: that seems like a lot of weight on us, but 173 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: it's like I would rather get to heaven and say, 174 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: you know what, God, I emptied myself of my gifts 175 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: versus him saying, hey, you know, what did you do 176 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: with what I gave you? And my response is, well, 177 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: I was too scared of what people are going to think. 178 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: I didn't want to show up because I was afraid 179 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: of failing. I would rather just put myself out there, 180 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: scared and all. And I know the Bible does tell 181 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: us to not have fear but for human and sometimes 182 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: that's just an emotion that comes up, but we have 183 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: to push through that. It's okay if you feel it, 184 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: but you've got to push through it and do it anyway. 185 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it reminds me of the parable of the talents. 186 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: The one person buried their talent that they were given 187 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 2: and didn't invest and didn't stir it well, and God 188 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: was not pleased with that, right. 189 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly it. And we had what five talents. 190 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: He went off and increased his. The two talents came 191 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: back with more, and then the one talent was like, 192 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to hold on to this 193 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: just in case I don't want to make a mistake. 194 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to do something wrong. And I think 195 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: we do that too, where we hold on to it. 196 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: But I also think about again, I talk about this 197 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: in the devotional Like the thing that God has given you, 198 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: you can increase it. You can create wealth from that, 199 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: you can create more from the thing that He's given you. 200 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: You've got to just be resourceful in actually using it. 201 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 202 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: And I love the thought of when you were talking 203 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: about the gifts that God has given us in these 204 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: dreams and our obedience. Really there are people around us 205 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: that will benefit from this, not just people that we 206 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: will see, but like future generations. And I love thinking 207 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: about that impact because of the decisions that you are making, 208 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: because of your courage, it can shape and change somebody 209 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: else's life you may never meet. That's exciting to me. 210 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: Especially in the again, the digital world. We're online, you 211 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: can show up, use your gifts there. It's gonna go 212 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: beyond the people that you see. It's gonna go beyond 213 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: the generations that you see. Like your yes, quite literally 214 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: is tied to someone else. It's not just stopping with you. 215 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 216 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: Is there a dreamer that has inspired you, somebody in 217 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 2: your life that has just lit a fire in your 218 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: own life and encouraged you to pursue your dreams. 219 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say I come from a family of entrepreneurs. 220 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: So my aunt, she's been a beautician for maybe twenty 221 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: plus years, family and finance mechanic. I've come from that world. 222 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: So seeing people show up every day and just show 223 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: up in their community using their gifts and the talents 224 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: that God gave them, that's something that I just grew 225 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: up with. And it's funny because as I was growing up, 226 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: I never thought that I would be doing the same thing. 227 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I was just was like, Oh, that's great that they're 228 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: doing that. I love that. And it wasn't until after 229 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I graduated college where I was like, oh my gosh, 230 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: there's something missing here. And then I realized like, if 231 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: they did it, I can do it too. 232 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, you are a mom of two girls, 233 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: and so how does this idea of daring to dream? 234 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: How does that shape the way that you parent them? 235 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So there are days I will say that I 236 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: still it's challenging where I'm like, oh my gosh, this 237 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: is so hard, showing up for everybody, keeping my house intact, 238 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: writing a book, doing all the things, but showing them 239 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: in real time. Like it's challenging. But if mommy can 240 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: do it, and if Mommy is gonna do it, you 241 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: guys have to do it, and so it's funny because 242 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: it allows me to talk to them about like their schoolwork. 243 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: They're like, this is hard. I don't feel like doing it, 244 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you can do it. It's hard. It's 245 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: not supposed to be easy. It's supposed to challenge you. 246 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: That's what we're here for. That means you're going to 247 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: get to the next part where you can love. But 248 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: I love that they can see me show up and 249 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: that gives them the courage to show up in their 250 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: own lives. It's just school right now, but it gives 251 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: them the courage and even in their extracurricular activities they're 252 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: in sports. My daughter right now is in a dance 253 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: class and it is very intense and she's like, whoa, 254 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: this is hard, and I'm like, we're gonna learn it. 255 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna practice, we're gonna put in the work, we're 256 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna record the classes while we're in there. 257 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna go home and we're gonna practice, and we're 258 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: gonna show up and we're gonna nail this thing. We're 259 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna be ready for this recital come the middle of June. 260 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I really do believe that God uses our whole 261 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 2: lives as his training ground. He's shaping our character and creating, 262 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: you know, endurance and perseverance and all the things in us. 263 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: As you were talking, I was thinking about another interview 264 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: I've had. It was years ago, but it was with 265 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: Karen Kingsbury, who is a fiction writer, and her dad 266 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: said to her, someone is going to be the next 267 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: New York Times bestselling author, it might as well be you, and. 268 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: She sure enough is so. 269 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: I think, what if her dad hadn't believed in her 270 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: and hadn't encouraged her to pursue her dreams to quench 271 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: that fire in her. It's important who is in your community, 272 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: who is speaking life into your dreams, and who is 273 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: maybe quenching those dreams. Have you found that in your 274 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: own life, the people that you're surrounding yourself really do 275 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: influence you. 276 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny that you say that about her dad, 277 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: because I was just I had a book launch over 278 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: the weekend party and I was telling everyone about my 279 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: dad growing up. He literally made me feel like if 280 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to be an astronaut, I could go out 281 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: there and be an astronaut. I genuinely thought that I 282 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: could do anything in the world just because that's just 283 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: how he was in our house. You can do anything. 284 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: And I shared a little joke. I was like, man, 285 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: once I graduated college and I realized like, oh my gosh, 286 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: was he lying to me? This is hard out here. 287 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: And I shared that joke, but I'm like, no, he 288 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: was not. He was not lying. Life does have its challenges. 289 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: But again, growing up, I was like, I can if 290 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: I want to be a surgeon. My dad said I 291 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: can be a surgeon. Like he really instilled that in it, 292 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: that we can do whatever. Yeah. 293 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: I think that that's really important too, because what I 294 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 2: have seen so far in my life, I feel like 295 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: God has whispered dreams to me in my heart, and 296 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: as I've pursued those, it still has not been easy. 297 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: I have still been scared, but I am doing it anyway, 298 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: And so speak into that a little bit. Just because 299 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: whatever it is is taking longer than you think that 300 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: it should, or it's still hard, or you're still scared, 301 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 2: it doesn't mean it's not right. 302 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 303 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I actually just posted about this recently. We assume that 304 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: because God gave us this idea or these gifts and talents, 305 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be easy, and so then when we 306 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: have these experiences of challenges, we're like, oh my gosh, 307 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: I heard God wrong. Yes, am I out of alignment? 308 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: And it's like, no, that's the thing that's challenging you 309 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: to get to the next level. And I talk about 310 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: Noah building the arc like there's no way that he 311 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: had perfect conditions. I am sure that he experienced all 312 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: sorts of stuff, but he kept building and he kept 313 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: doing the thing that God called him to do. And 314 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: I think again, it is challenging. You just have to 315 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: know so that if you have conversations with God and 316 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: you know this in your heart that this is something 317 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: from God, you just have to count it that that's 318 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: just a part of the process. This is going to 319 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: be challenging. I'm scared, and even now I'm still scared. 320 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: People don't know it. But I'm an introvert. I'm shy. 321 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: They don't know it. They're like, I can't tell, and 322 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's because you caught me using my gifts. 323 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: If you got me on a regular day where I'm 324 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: not doing that, then you'd be like, she's just a 325 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: little shy and awkward. That's my personality. But it's still 326 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: something that I'm not going to allow to stop me 327 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: from using my gifts. So I'm scared all the time, 328 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: but I'm like, you know what, I might as well 329 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: just do it anyways, because again those internal dialogues after 330 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: I would just I feel like that's that weighs more 331 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: on me, where you know you should have done this, 332 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: you should have showed it up in use your gifts. 333 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: I just don't want that feeling, and so I'd rather 334 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: be scared and do it and just show up. 335 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: I'm introverted to and well, speaking is not in my 336 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: natural skill set or preference. But it does get easier, 337 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: I think, the more that we do it, but it 338 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: doesn't always natural. And I have found that when I 339 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: am I'm operating maybe in my weakness, then I rely 340 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: on the Lord so much more. I have to be 341 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: dependent on him. So when I first had the dream 342 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: to write a devotional, I went to She Speaks in 343 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: North Carolina through Proverbs thirty one, and I remember my 344 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: first meeting with an acquisitions editor. She was just really 345 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: discouraging and basically it was like, your idea is terrible 346 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: and there's no way this is going to happen. 347 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: Basically, was the gist that I walked away with. 348 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: And I remember going back to my hotel room and 349 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: just thinking, God, I heard you wrong, like what you 350 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: were just saying? You just said those words. And I 351 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: debated on packing up my bags, but in that moment, 352 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 2: the worship song from Lauren Dagle came on that talk 353 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: about you say, like I keep thinking in my mind 354 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: that I'm not enough, but no God, you say and 355 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: all these words of affirmation, and I decided to stay. 356 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 2: And then the very next day I ended up meeting 357 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: my agent. I'm so glad I stayed when I wanted 358 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: to quit. And I have found that so many times, 359 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: especially now a decade later, like what if I had quit, 360 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be having this conversation with you if I 361 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: had quit in that moment. And then another quick story 362 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: I just want to tell. So in college I was 363 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a broadcast journalist, and so I 364 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: was in a public speaking class and I remember I 365 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: flunked out of that class. 366 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: I could not do it. 367 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: So I switched to be a business major, and two 368 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: almost three years ago, I had the opportunity to be 369 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: on Good Morning America, and it was one of those 370 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: moments of like, Lord, I did hear you correctly. It 371 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: just happened in a much different way, in a much 372 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: different time than I originally thought. And so I guess 373 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: my encouragement in sharing all of that with everybody listening 374 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: is you are hearing God correctly. Probably it just may 375 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: not happen in the exact way or time, But continue 376 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: just to steward what is in front of you today, 377 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: be obedient in the small things today. And it may 378 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: not be in your natural inclination, but I think just 379 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: pay attention to God's still small voice, because you will 380 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: be walking out that dream many years, many days later. 381 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: Maybe does that evoke anythought in you? 382 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: As stories, I actually have a similar story. God told 383 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: me to write Look for Entrepreneurs, a devotional style to 384 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: help women like show up and use their gifts in 385 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: the world. And I reached out to an agent that 386 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: someone recommended and she came back and she's like, no, 387 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: it's too specific. You want them to be women, they 388 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: have to be Christian, they have to have gifts and talents, 389 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: they want to do entrepreneurship. I don't think it's going 390 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: to work, but best of luck to you. And I 391 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, maybe I heard God wrong. But in 392 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: that moment, I still decided to show up. I self 393 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: published it and I said, you know what, God, if 394 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: you told me to do it, I'm just going to 395 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: self publish it. And fast forward. That was three years ago. 396 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: I think that was maybe three or four years ago. 397 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: Fast forward to today. Here we are with a devotional 398 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: for Christian women that want to get into entrepreneurship or 399 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: launch ministry or just use their gifts in the world. 400 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: And it's just like you said, I did not hear 401 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: you wrong. Mie reveals all if you just stick with it, 402 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: and I hope that these stories bless your your listeners, 403 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: because truly, if you just stick with it and you trust, 404 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: like I know that God's not going to steer me wrong. 405 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: I know that I have a relationship with God. I 406 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: know that I hear him for myself. I know this 407 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: is right in my heart. If you just stick with 408 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 1: that and you don't allow the opinions of other people 409 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: like you, you will get there. You will get to 410 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: the other side. And again I am like freshly on 411 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: the other side as someone like speaking who just got here. 412 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: So I hope that encourages your listeners. 413 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 2: Well, it encourages me and I can't wait to continue 414 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: today's conversation, but we're going to take another brief break 415 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: to hear a word from today's sponsor, and when I 416 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: come back, we'll talk about building unshakeable faith and walking 417 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: in obedience. 418 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 419 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: I'm talking with Tanysha Yerby about her book From Dreams 420 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 2: to Drive, And so you talk about aligning business and 421 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: personal goals with God's higher purpose. How can women ensure 422 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: that what they are pursuing is truly God led and 423 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: not just self driven. This is tricky because sometimes we 424 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: can get a little bit selfish and want to make 425 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: ourselves an idol or build our own tower of babble. 426 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Just like I just said, Like, I am a person 427 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: who is multi passionate, So I find passion in just 428 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: tons of things like hosting, having parties, decorating. I just 429 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: find passion in all of those things. But I realize that, yes, 430 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: because I'm talented at these things, they're not fulfilling in 431 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: the way that I thought they would be. Like there's 432 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: a certain element that's going to be missing there, and 433 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: you'll recognize it because you'll get in the weeds of 434 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: it and you're like, this isn't doing what I thought 435 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: it was gonna do. And that is how I again 436 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: ended up coming back to writing, because I just realized 437 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I'm good at these things, but they don't feel like 438 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: they're necessarily aligned with my purpose, and so I suggest 439 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: stopping and taking inventory. I always say that it is 440 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: hidden in plain sight. The thing that you're called to 441 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: do is hidden right in front of your face. It's 442 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: by the conversations you have, It's by the questions that 443 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: people come up to you and ask. It's by all 444 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: of the things that happen in your everyday life. But 445 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: we're so busy pursuing all these other things that we 446 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: overlook it. We just we don't even see it. It's 447 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: right in front of us. And I think if we 448 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: slow down for a minute and we take again inventory 449 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: that I think we're always so quick to want to build, build, build, 450 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: and we don't like that foundation phase of like, Okay, 451 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: what am I building? Who am I called to serve? 452 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: What is the impact that I am actually supposed to have? 453 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: I think when we take a pause and a break 454 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: to actually do that, I do truly think that it 455 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: will present itself to you if you just cut everything off, 456 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: like maybe you're not launching anything right now. Maybe you're 457 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: not doing all of the business stuff that you normally do. 458 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: Maybe you're just taking a solid few weeks, few months, 459 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: however long it takes to just sit and hear from God, 460 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: write down those things in your journal, and then pursue 461 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: once you have some more clarity on where you should go. 462 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: So that was my next question was going to be 463 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: you encourage readers to ask God the right questions. So 464 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 2: when I say that, is that the inventory that you're 465 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: kind of speaking about, like asking him yes, okay. 466 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: And again asking the right questions. For a long time, 467 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: I was like, God, I'm working on this business. Can 468 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: you help me build this business? And I never wance 469 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: for years stop to say, actually, what do you want 470 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: me to do it? Because I was always bringing something 471 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: to him and trying to get him to do something 472 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: with what I was offering him instead of just saying, God, 473 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: actually let's scratch all of that, what is it that 474 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: you want me to pursue? 475 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: Many women struggle with impatience, especially when they feel ready, 476 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: but timing doesn't seem to much. We kind of talked 477 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: about timing earlier, but how can we learn to trust 478 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: God's timing while still taking faithful action. 479 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: You can still show up while you wait. So going 480 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: back to my personal story here, when God said, hey, 481 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: I just want you to use your voice, I had 482 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: no idea what that meant. So I started an online 483 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: community and I said, Okay, these are the only instructions 484 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: I have right now. Instead of sitting on these instructions 485 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: and waiting for step two, three, four, five, and six 486 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: to come, let's just go with step one. Let's just 487 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: use my gifts. That's it. Let's just use my voice. 488 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: And so I did that, and honestly, it was years 489 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: before he actually said, now I'll let you sell a product, 490 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: and that was when I came out with affirmation cards. 491 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: So again, and patience, you don't have to necessarily just 492 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: do nothing while you wait. You really just have to 493 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: go back to, like, what's the last thing that God 494 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: told me to do? And am I actually doing that? 495 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 1: So if he said show up, create an online community, 496 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: that's what you do until you get your next set 497 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: of instructions. You don't have to just sit you know. 498 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: I know we like to say I'm waiting on God, 499 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: but a lot of times He's like, no, I'm actually 500 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: waiting on you to show up. Do the thing, and 501 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: then I'll tell you what's next after you do that. 502 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: So showing up while you. 503 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: Wait, Yeah, I mean you look at the people in 504 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 2: the Bible, like Abraham didn't know exactly where he was 505 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: going to go. It's like, I will show you the land, 506 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 2: but just come with me, and then Si'm with the disciples. Yeah, 507 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: Jesus said follow me. 508 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: I didn't know where. They just knew that they were following, right. 509 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that's good. Yeah, we won't always know 510 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: the full picture. So you also emphasize resilience and perseverance. 511 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 2: So when challenges arise, and they always do, how can 512 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: women stay anchored in their faith and continue moving forward? 513 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: Scripture? Reminding yourself of God's word and what God has said. 514 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: Also keeping God involved from start to finish. I know, 515 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: we like to get these ideas and these things that 516 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: we want to pursue and then we're like, yes, I 517 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: got it, and we run off without God full steam ahead. 518 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: I think that the key there is keeping God involved 519 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: from start to finish and keeping him in on the 520 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: journey because again, the challenges, like you just said, the 521 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: challenges are going to come, and it's so much easier 522 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: when you've just been walking with God the entire time, 523 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: instead of having to run back every single time, Hey God, 524 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: you told me something and I messed up. Can you 525 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: help me fix it? Let's just we can skip that part. 526 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: We can stay in communication with God the entire time 527 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: so that we know, Okay, yes, the challenges are going 528 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: to come, but I'm going to stick with it. I've 529 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: been talking to God this entire time. I'm sure that 530 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: I'm on the right path. I'm sure that I'm showing 531 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: up and doing the thing that He's called me to do. 532 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: So I'm going to stick with it. 533 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: Husband, and I don't know who to attribute this to. 534 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 2: He saw something on social media, but it is about 535 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: a lot of successful people, and it was it was saying, 536 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: how the main difference in somebody that is worldly successful 537 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: versus somebody that isn't is you typically perseverance. They just 538 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 2: chose to not quit. And I do want to make 539 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: sure and as I'm even telling that story, world like 540 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 2: success and heavenly success probably looks a lot different. And 541 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: so we're not talking like your dreams have to be 542 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 2: to be a New York Times bestselling author, to be 543 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: an NBA athlete, or to be you know, a movie 544 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: star or whatever that would be. The dream could be 545 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: staying married. The dream could be being a faithful, stay 546 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: at home mom. Talk to us a little bit about that. Sometimes. 547 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 2: I think in our culture, dreams and what is significant 548 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: and what's important to us in the human earthly realm 549 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: is often maybe even different than what God would even 550 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: say is success. 551 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: Do you have anything to say on that. 552 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: Our dreams might look different than someone else think we Again, 553 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: we spend a lot of time online in social media, 554 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: and we see what everyone else is doing, and sometimes 555 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: that shapes our dreams because we are consuming so much. 556 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: So I think that it is important again to kind 557 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: of scale back on what we are taking in and 558 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: think about, like, what is important to you? Like again, 559 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: maybe that is your dream, Like I just want to 560 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 1: have a successful marriage. I didn't see this growing up, 561 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: and that's my dream. You know, my mom worked extra hard, 562 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: she was a single parent. We didn't get to spend 563 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: much time. Maybe your dream really is to say, hey, 564 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that I can stay 565 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: at home and do a good job raising my children 566 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: and a loving home. So your dreams may not always 567 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: look like what everyone else looks like, but that's Okay, 568 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: if that's a dream for you, then then it's something 569 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: that's worth pursuing. 570 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 571 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: Well, So for the woman who feels like she's been 572 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 2: sitting on a dream for too long, what encouragement would 573 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: you give her to take the next step of obedience today? 574 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: Stop overthinking it, don't overthink it. It's the more you overthink, 575 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: the more fear is going to settle in. Fear's got 576 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: one job, and that is to trick you into thinking 577 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: that you're not enough and that you're not ready. So 578 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: the longer you sit and wait, the harder it will 579 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: be to move your feet. And I always say that 580 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: it is a lot easier for God to guide your 581 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: steps when you are willing to move your feet. So 582 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: if you're feeling stuck and you're feeling like, oh my gosh, 583 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: I don't know what's next, I feel overwhelmed with this. 584 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: If you would just put yourself out there, just take 585 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 1: one step whatever it is that working towards that thing 586 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: that you want, If you would just take one step 587 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, Hey, God, am actually just 588 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm willing to meet you halfway. I have no idea 589 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: where this is going to end up, but I am 590 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: willing to put myself out there and I'm going to 591 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: meet you halfway and trust that I'll get to the 592 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: other side. 593 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 594 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 2: Trust I think that's the biggest thing to know, Like 595 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: you've talked about, and I love that you point so 596 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: much to scripture. We serve a good God who gives 597 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: us good gifts and wants good things for us, for 598 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: his good and for his glory. So it is so 599 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: important that we know who we're serving and who these 600 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: dreams are for, and that it will shape all of eternity, 601 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: not just now. I think that's just so impactful to 602 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: think about. Well, so on this podcast we talk about 603 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: love and so is there a biblical concept of love 604 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: that you think applies to this topic today. 605 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: Yes, and I think I spoke to it earlier. The 606 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: Bible tells us that we should use our gifts to 607 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: serve one another, and I think that's a form of love. 608 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: Of love and saying you know what, I know, I 609 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: have these gifts inside of me. I'm not going to 610 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: hoard them and keep them to myself. I am going 611 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 1: to show up. I'm going to partner with God. I'm 612 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: going to pursue this thing, and I'm gonna help my 613 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: sisters who are alongside me, the people who could benefit 614 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: from these gifts, just being out in the world. So 615 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: I think that is an act of love. 616 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: I agree, Well, so tell us something you are loving 617 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: right now? 618 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: What am I loving right now? Honestly, the weather. That's 619 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: the first thing that came to mind. I don't know 620 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: something about the weather. Being warm is just I want 621 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: to be outside. I want to be with my kids. 622 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: I want to play with chalk. I want to sit 623 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: on the ur lawn and be a kid again. So 624 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: spring in the summer is really the time where I 625 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: feel the most alive and vibrant and creative. And I 626 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: don't know, I just love the weather right now. Hopefully 627 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: it's stays today. 628 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: Yes, well, same. And I'm loving your nails right now. 629 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 2: I wish everybody could see them. But those are fun 630 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: talk about like creative and they're beautiful. 631 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: I'm normally a boring person. I normally don't step outside 632 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: the box. But I'm like, you know what, something new 633 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: and so I tried these designs and I also have 634 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 1: this is funny. I started tap dancing classes because I'm like, 635 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: I want to do something new that I don't know 636 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: how to do. I look crazy doing it, but it's fun. 637 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 3: Good for you accepting a new challenge. You are fun. 638 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, well I know I want to stay connected 639 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: with you. I'm sure listeners are going to want to, 640 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: so tell us how we can miss do that. 641 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can find me on social media at CEO 642 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: for Women. That is Instagram and Facebook, and my website 643 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: is the same www dot ceo for Women. 644 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: And we will include that in the show notes. But 645 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 2: would you do us the honor of praying for us 646 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: as we close today? 647 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: Yes, Father, God, thank you so much for this time 648 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: that we have had to talk to the women in 649 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: this community. Or God. I hope that something that we 650 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: have said will pierce their hearts and encourage them to 651 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: show up and pursue all of the things that you've 652 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 1: called them to do. I hope that this has sparked 653 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: a fire in them, that this will give them the 654 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: courage to show up and not just use the gifts 655 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: and the talents that they think is best for them, God, 656 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: but the things really partnering with you and just doing 657 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 1: what you've called them to do. God, I asked you 658 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: to just open their minds and their creativity allowed them 659 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: to see that whatever they have is what they need. 660 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: Allowed them to just tap into the resources that You've 661 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: already given them, or God give them the confidence, just 662 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: the encouragement that they need to show up. And I 663 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: thank you for everyone that is under the sound of 664 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: my voice in Jesus. 665 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: Name, Amen, Amen, Tanisha, Thank you. I've enjoyed talking with 666 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: you today. You've encouraged me in my dreams and pray 667 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: for every single person listening, and just thankful that you've 668 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: encouraged us all to dare to dream. 669 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, it was great being on the show. 670 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to the Love Offering Podcast. 671 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: I hope today's conversation encouraged you that God has placed 672 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: unique gifts and purpose inside of you, and with him 673 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: you can move from dreaming to doing. If you enjoyed 674 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: this episode, please share it with a friend and leave 675 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: a review. It helps others find the show and spreads 676 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: the message of love even further. To connect with me, 677 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: visit me on my website at Rachel Kaadams dot com, 678 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: where you can download the Love Always Devotional, a free 679 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: resource to helpe you realize how beloved you already are. 680 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: Be sure to check out Tanisha Yearby's book From Dreams 681 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: to Drive, Trust God's Plan, embrace your gifts, and walk 682 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 2: in purpose. A special thank you to life Audio for 683 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: supporting this podcast and making it possible. To find more 684 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: great podcasts, visitlifeaudio dot com. Until next time, let's make 685 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 2: our lives an offering of love.