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Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale Morning Glory at Evening Grace America. I'm

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Speaker 1: Hugh Hewitt. Lots to cover today, including developments in the

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Speaker 1: war with Iran and the attack on the synagogue in

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Speaker 1: West Bloomfield. I'm starting the hour with Dan Senor. He

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Speaker 1: is founder and host Have Called Me Back. Arcmedia has

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Speaker 1: grown out of Call Me Back. It now embraces a

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Speaker 1: universe of podcasts and other information. I myself am an

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Speaker 1: Call Me Back insider. I think you ought to be

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Speaker 1: a Call Me Back insider because it's probably consistently the

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Speaker 1: best coverage of the war anywhere in the podcasting world.

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Speaker 1: And I hope my friends at Commentary aren't mad at me.

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Speaker 1: Dan's on their board, so he'll smooth it out if

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Speaker 1: it's that's the case. But Dan sin Or, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to DA all the times.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you, and we love commentary magazine,

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Speaker 2: and then John Is and the team are close friends,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not only on the board, but I appear

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Speaker 2: on their podcast all the time, so it's we're all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was listening to Rich Goldberg today and

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, the difference between commentary and Dan

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Speaker 1: Senor is that you do interviews. They do discussions and arguments,

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Speaker 1: so they are always arguing with each other, and you

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Speaker 1: I think Call Me Back has filled the niche in

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Speaker 1: American media that is sadly missing serious reporting about the war.

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Speaker 1: How big is the gap between, in your opinion, Dan,

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Speaker 1: war reporting in World War Two, maybe Korea, even early

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Speaker 3: That's a great question.

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Speaker 4: I think this in many respects the.

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Speaker 2: Last two and a half years, so really go from

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Speaker 2: the Gaza War and obviously now the Iron War. These

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Speaker 2: wars have been the subject of extraordinary scrutiny. They've gotten

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Speaker 2: more attention than I don't know about World War Two,

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Speaker 2: but certainly you go back to the Vietnam wars, it's

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Speaker 3: Everybody's covering everything.

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Speaker 2: And so the intense, the depth and the breadth of

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Speaker 2: the coverage is enormous. And yet, Hugh, it's very hard,

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Speaker 2: despite this incredible microscope that those engaged in military operations,

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Speaker 2: whether there are Israelis or Americans, are under it is

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Speaker 2: very difficult to really understand what's happening in the war.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you saided that episode with Rich Coldberg that

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Speaker 2: we released today. Rich was excellent for a variety of reasons,

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Speaker 2: not the least of which is he actually just explained

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Speaker 2: what we know about what is going on in the war.

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Speaker 2: What are the objectives, where are we in meeting with subjectives,

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Speaker 2: which this could go sideways? Just very specific, not emotional,

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Speaker 3: The war and war fighting, and that there's.

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Speaker 2: Tragically not that much of that in the news media

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Speaker 3: That's one of the things we're trying to do.

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Speaker 1: Let me talk to you about American impatience. I think

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Speaker 2: I think given it a world in which everyone is

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Speaker 2: You know on on CBS, he when he's doing broadcasts

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Speaker 2: And I feel like that's how Americans want their news

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Speaker 2: By the way, they're just not doing a very good job,

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Speaker 2: because to your point, it's completely unrealistic to expect military

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Speaker 2: rare opportunity to basically decapitate a big part of the

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Speaker 2: And that was a big opportunity. It only worked because

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Speaker 2: element of surprise is extremely important and we should respect that.

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Speaker 2: The same time, it is still useful as journalists know

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Speaker 2: I think Hegseeth and General Kine have been doing a

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Speaker 2: I'm a little frustrated that the press has not been

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Speaker 1: Now, Dan, I want to ask you what you have

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Speaker 1: been most surprised by. For me, it's that Iran went

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Speaker 2: I would say that, I would say the speed with

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Speaker 2: I used to do early on you early in the war,

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Speaker 2: Ascribe that to the theory that Iran was hoping to

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Speaker 2: Trump to just come in and say this thing's got

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Speaker 3: You know, I kind of bought that theory that that

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Speaker 4: What I've become more where.

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Speaker 2: My head is not more now as I learn more,

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Speaker 2: not exactly like the new Supreme Leader is signing off

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Speaker 3: That's quote unquote.

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Speaker 2: Governing Iran's signing off. So it's just a lot of

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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense, That makes a lot

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Speaker 1: to strike, that makes more sense. Let me ask you

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Speaker 3: Moves are closed.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to run out of food. The world's

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Speaker 1: be tight. Price, We're going to go high, but it'll

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Speaker 2: Objectively speaking, you, I mean this really objectively like this

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Speaker 2: other tracks, But as far as the military track is concerned.

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Speaker 4: Is it's indisputable that is going well.

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Speaker 2: We are systematically degrading Iran's offensive and defensive capabilities and

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Speaker 2: blowing to me, and the fact that the American Comedia

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Speaker 1: We are winning decisively. We have not yet decisively won.

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Speaker 1: Dan Senor will be back in Hour two America because

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Speaker 1: I'm covering out through all my audience today. Don't go

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Speaker 1: Glory and Eve engraves in America. I'm Hugh Hewittt. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Hour two. If you heard Hour one today, earned

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Speaker 1: my guest, Dan Senor is the founder of the Call

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Speaker 2: But in this environment, when synagogues get attacked, Jewish institutions

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Speaker 2: Know, just think about all the Jewish institutions they're exposed,

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Speaker 3: That's the challenge.

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Speaker 4: The opportunity is the track record of Jews.

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Speaker 2: Coming out of those places, what I call bubble Jewish

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Speaker 4: The good news is, Hugh, we have the resources in

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Speaker 2: So the demand is there, the questions, well, this is

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Speaker 2: And I think this is a golden opportunity for Jewish

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Speaker 1: I hope you're successful, because it just occurs to me

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Speaker 3: That's a great question.

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Speaker 2: So I think we're living during a time of global disorder,

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Speaker 1: The risks are enormous, the rewards are hard to measure.

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Speaker 1: and host of the Three Martini Lunch Jim. We got

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Speaker 6: But first, but first, Gino Smith.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, everything old is new again.

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Speaker 6: Now I can live with this.

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Speaker 9: I actually wanted to wish you happy anniversary, Hugh. Happy

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Speaker 9: anniversary to six years ago was March twelfth, twenty twenty.

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Speaker 9: That was kind of the day the world shut down.

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty where at the beginning of the week it

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Speaker 9: was like, huh, there's this weird thing. Ruby Gobert had

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Speaker 9: had tested positive, and you know, the cancel of the

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Speaker 9: NBA games, and then Tom Hanks got it and then

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Speaker 9: we knew it was really serious, and like by the

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Speaker 9: end of the week the world was shutting down. But

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Speaker 9: so I just go this week of March, couple family

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Speaker 9: birthdays are in there. I will always remember that as

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Speaker 9: when things went from normal to suddenly very not normal

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Speaker 9: in a very short span.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have family birthdays as well on March twelfth,

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Speaker 1: and so we remember it. I also remember the day before,

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Speaker 1: flying to the Beltway and not being able either for

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Speaker 1: the fetching Missshue to come to me or for me

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Speaker 1: to go back to California for ten weeks. And you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're a bachelor and you don't cook, Thank God

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Speaker 1: for takeout pizza, Jim, I wanted to I just got

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Speaker 1: to go back to the jetso because you're Dan senhor

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Speaker 1: was on already and he wanted to move Pat Me

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Speaker 1: quickly too.

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Speaker 6: I just want to know.

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Speaker 1: Jets fans are as bad as Brown fans. It's like

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Speaker 1: you touched the electric outlet. Who do you want to

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Speaker 1: draft it? Number two.

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Speaker 9: Probably are Reese, but they have a bunch of good

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Speaker 9: options at defense. I don't think I don't want to

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Speaker 9: take Ty Simpson that early. Ty Simpson seems like a

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Speaker 9: really swell kid, but you know, there's a long history

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Speaker 9: of overreaching for quarterbacks for teams that you know, I

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Speaker 9: feel like they does fall.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 8: Oh yes, this has been a great free agency couple

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Speaker 8: of days for the Jets.

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Speaker 9: I'm thrilled with everybody they've gotten so and look, when

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Speaker 9: you're starting at the bottom, you've got one hundred million

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Speaker 9: in capped space.

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Speaker 8: It's very easy to throw money around.

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Speaker 9: But uh, usually I have a lot to complain about

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Speaker 9: Hugh and this is this is not one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't want them to take Carnal Tait, all right.

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Speaker 1: I just want Carnal Tait on the board for the

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Speaker 1: Browns at six.

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Speaker 8: So he'll be there because your safeties are great.

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Speaker 1: But he's Caleb Down, I want the wide receiver Carneal

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Speaker 1: tait O Caleb Downs is the great safety bit No,

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Speaker 1: not at number sex All right, Jim. My assessment of

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Speaker 1: the war today civilian that I am with zero knowledge

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Speaker 1: of classified information is that we are decisively winning. That

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Speaker 1: we have not yet achieved a decisive win. What do

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Speaker 1: you think.

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Speaker 9: I'm going to largely agree with that. I do think

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Speaker 9: that the interruption of shipping in the straight Upforemus and

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Speaker 9: Persian Gulf is a serious problem. And my guess is

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Speaker 9: all of your listeners and viewers who have filled up

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Speaker 9: their tanks in the last two weeks have noticed this

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Speaker 9: as well. You know, we have the Iranian capabilities been

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Speaker 9: significantly degraded, absolutely, indisputably. The problem is it's not quite

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Speaker 9: like the War and Terror where they used to say

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Speaker 9: we have to be right every time.

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Speaker 8: The bad guys just have to be right once.

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Speaker 9: They basically getting You know, they managed to hit three

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Speaker 9: ships yesterday and a port in Oman, right, that's not

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Speaker 9: a huge amount of missiles getting out, but they are

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Speaker 9: hitting their targets and they do make it a significant

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Speaker 9: amount of fear of ships going into their ships don't

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Speaker 9: want to go into through the straight if ire me

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Speaker 9: use it's twenty one miles wide at its narrowest point.

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Speaker 9: I know the administration tried to create this reinsurance program,

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Speaker 9: but it's the Wall Street Journal reporter eli. It's not

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Speaker 9: just the insurance issue. The crews would really rather not

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Speaker 9: get shot when they're traversing through there. So my suspicion is,

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Speaker 9: until we see those stop, you're not going to see

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Speaker 9: those oil tankers flowing through there. Until you see the

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Speaker 9: oil tankers flowing through there, you're not going to see

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Speaker 9: oil prices to stabilize. I know that they go up

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Speaker 9: a bit and they come back down, you know, so

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Speaker 9: they go up significantly, come back down a little bit.

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Speaker 9: But there's last I saw there like one hundred dollars

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Speaker 9: a barrel. It's it's not good. And so I think

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Speaker 9: that my fear is that this turns into pressure and

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Speaker 9: the administration to declare victory and go home. Now give

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Speaker 9: it a choice between the Iranian regime at the start

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Speaker 9: of this, So the Iranian regime as it is now,

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Speaker 9: I would take what we have now, but I would

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Speaker 9: really rather not leave this regime in place wildly take

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Speaker 9: them a long time to rebuild from all this they

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Speaker 9: will be out for revenge. You know, whether it's this

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Speaker 9: cardboard Ayatola or another one. You know, if they're any

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Speaker 9: in these alat of Provolutionary Guard Corps is still running

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Speaker 9: the country, then we have kicked the can down the

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Speaker 9: road on this and they'll be able to run around

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Speaker 9: and say, look, we took the toughest punch at the

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Speaker 9: Israelis and the Americans could throw at us.

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Speaker 8: We're still standing. We are the true victor. Blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Jim, I want your reaction to my reaction to that

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Speaker 1: accurate representation of where we are.

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Speaker 6: I want to.

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Speaker 1: Shake people and say, do you not know if you're

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Speaker 1: my age, what your parents went through? Do you not

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Speaker 1: know if you're Jim's age your grandparents, or if your

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Speaker 1: grandkid's age or your children's say, do you not know

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Speaker 1: what your great grandparents went through? This is not the

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Speaker 1: Battle of the Atlantic. I paid five point fifty for

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Speaker 1: gasoline this week. By the way, it was six fifty

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Speaker 1: in California in twenty twenty two during the Biden inflation.

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Speaker 1: It's five fifty this week in California. This is not

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Speaker 1: the Battle of the Atlantic. We need to defeat this

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Speaker 1: enemy decisively we can't let them emerge from this wreckage

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Speaker 1: saying we want I don't think that's actual allowable. What's

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Speaker 1: your reaction in my reaction.

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Speaker 8: My reaction to your action. I like you to react

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Speaker 8: to my reaction to your reactions. No, I largely agree

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Speaker 8: with what you said there, and it is good to

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Speaker 8: keep perspective.

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Speaker 9: That said, every time, I every morning when I write

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Speaker 9: the morning, Joel, I'm checking Triple A and then I

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Speaker 9: check the Energy Information Administration.

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Speaker 8: Triple A opens updates it's national.

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Speaker 9: Average every day. The Energy Information Administration updates it once

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Speaker 9: a week. It's going up a couple cents every day,

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Speaker 9: about a quarter to fifty cents a week. That's you

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Speaker 9: know that people are going to feel that because not

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Speaker 9: only is it, you know, putting gas into your tank,

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Speaker 9: everything you buy gets transported by We've been through this

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Speaker 9: with the Biden administration. We've been through this in past times.

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Speaker 9: This is not the first time we've seen gas prices spike,

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Speaker 9: but we've seen the secondary economic effects of this. I

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Speaker 9: know you asked about the war and the midterm elections

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Speaker 9: are ways away, but the last jobs report was really

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Speaker 9: not great. The downward revisions were really not great. I

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Speaker 9: don't think that the country is in a particular good

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Speaker 9: mood right now. That's not great for Republicans. And so

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Speaker 9: now we've got, you know, between now and November, I think,

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Speaker 9: because of the Iran war, we inevitably are going to

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Speaker 9: have like two to three months minimum of bad economic

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Speaker 9: numbers and a bad economic mood. So the window of

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Speaker 9: opportunity for the people to feel good about the economy

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Speaker 9: heading into the fall elections is getting smaller and smaller.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I am worried that the political pressure

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Speaker 9: to make this all go away is going to start

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Speaker 9: really weighing on the president and the decision makers and

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Speaker 9: the administration.

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Speaker 1: You might be right.

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Speaker 6: I hope you're wrong. I'd rather lose the midterms and

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Speaker 6: win the war.

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Speaker 1: Decisively than not win the war decisively and ake out,

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Speaker 1: you know, one vote margin in the Senate and not

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Speaker 1: slaughter and we're going to lose the House. I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, we're gonna lose the House. But Jim Garrity

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Speaker 1: from National View, always blunt and on point.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Jim.

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Speaker 1: Follow them at Jim Garrity, get the Morning Jumped from

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Speaker 1: National Review, read in the Washington Post, and come right

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Speaker 1: back to the huge show on the Shalem.

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Speaker 6: News Morning Glory and even Grace in America. I'm joined

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Speaker 6: by Eleana Y.

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Speaker 1: Johnson, editor in chief of the Washington Free Beacon, participant

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Speaker 1: in the commentary podcast where I hear her most mornings. Ellianna,

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Speaker 1: I think we are winning decisively, but we have not

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Speaker 1: yet decisively won. What do you think.

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Speaker 6: I think that's right, Hugh.

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Speaker 10: I think in terms of achieving our military objectives, it

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Speaker 10: would be hard to argue that the US and Israel

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Speaker 10: are not well on the way so far. This has

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Speaker 10: been an extraordinary success by the American Armed Forces and

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Speaker 10: the IDF. What's astonishing, And I have the New York

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Speaker 10: Times homepage in front of me. That's just one example.

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Speaker 10: Is that you'd be hard pressed to find coverage of

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Speaker 10: the military achievements in the middlelitary gains that we're making

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Speaker 10: in the press. Instead, you know, we have fallout rattles

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Speaker 10: and international order already understrained. And how heg Seth came

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Speaker 10: to see moral purpose in war as a weakness, and

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Speaker 10: we're getting fever pitch coverage of the failures.

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Speaker 6: So I do think it's.

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Speaker 10: Hard for the average consumer of news of this war

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Speaker 10: to understand the success that's being achieved on the battlefield.

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Speaker 1: Eleana, how do you think this media, the media that

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Speaker 1: we have, not the media that we wish we had,

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Speaker 1: but the media that we have, legacy media, how would

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Speaker 1: they have covered Pearl Harbor?

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Speaker 10: Well, Hugh, I think it would help that FDR was

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Speaker 10: a Democrat, so they might have covered it a bit

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Speaker 10: more positively. And I think it may have helped that

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Speaker 10: Pearl Harbor was an attack on the homeland, because September eleventh,

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Speaker 10: you know, was covered a little bit differently than this

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Speaker 10: is being covered. But I think there was a real

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Speaker 10: change in the American media around Trump, where the media

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Speaker 10: dropped all pretense of objectivity. And that's in part because

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Speaker 10: Trump was so open in his disdain for an attacks

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Speaker 10: on the press. And that's because we as conservatives like

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Speaker 10: nothing more than to point out their biases. And Trump

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Speaker 10: more than any other president, much as he loves to

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Speaker 10: talk to the press and deal with the press, and

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Speaker 10: it's the most transparent president we've ever had, he understood

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Speaker 10: that and capitalized on used as a message and talk

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Speaker 10: about media bias and is always pointing out the pervasive

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Speaker 10: bias in the legacy media. So you know, they would

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Speaker 10: have been of course more negative than they were. But

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Speaker 10: there's just nothing like a war not only waged by

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Speaker 10: President Trump but also by Bibi and Israel, to whom

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Speaker 10: the American news media is just incredibly hostile.

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Speaker 1: Give the steaks, and the stakes are so high. If

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Speaker 1: Iraan goes from black hat to white hat, the world

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Speaker 1: is so immeasurably better off, not just the region but

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Speaker 1: the world. If they go from China ally to American ally,

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Speaker 1: the world shifts on its axis for the first time

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Speaker 1: in forty seven years. But given the stakes, aren't we

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Speaker 1: entitled to a little objectivity. I know, the Straits of

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Speaker 1: Horn moveds I paid five and a half dollars a

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Speaker 1: gallon of gas. That's almost as high as it was

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two in California when it got the

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Speaker 1: six and a half dollars a gallon. But it's not

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Speaker 1: the Battle of the Atlantic when Great Britain was facing starvation.

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Speaker 6: It's not that.

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Speaker 1: Does anyone in the media have any memory or know

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Speaker 1: any history at all because we're crushing it.

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Speaker 10: Well, there's a couple of things you were calling twenty

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Speaker 10: twenty two. What we got is inflation is transitory, not

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Speaker 10: oh my gosh, we've got a real problem gas prices.

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Speaker 6: They're really high.

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Speaker 10: But I do think, you know, I'm about the age

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Speaker 10: of probably you know, many reporters out there and so

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Speaker 10: many people. We talked about this on the podcast this morning.

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Speaker 10: In my generation, you know, the only military battles and

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Speaker 10: the wars that we've seen the country engaged in, or

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Speaker 10: that those who served in the armed forces in my

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Speaker 10: generation participated in, were the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Speaker 10: That's their experience with wars, and I think that's shaped

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Speaker 10: the outlook of many in my generation and those younger

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Speaker 10: than I am. And so you mentioned Pearl Harbor. Young

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Speaker 10: people don't have a lot of experience. They have not

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Speaker 10: witnessed unless they've read history, which is no longer really

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Speaker 10: taught in our schools or in our colleges and university

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Speaker 10: America on the world stage victorious in battle, or you know,

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Speaker 10: seen America victorious at war, or understood the importance of America,

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Speaker 10: you know, militarily dominant as a force for good on

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Speaker 10: the world stage.

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Speaker 6: And in that sense, you I think, I think this war.

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Speaker 10: Or this military operation is important because it could reshape

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Speaker 10: the Maduro operation as well. The way that generations see

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Speaker 10: how the militaries use the uses to which it can

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Speaker 10: be put, and you know, our engagement on the world's stage.

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Speaker 1: I agree, and I especially hope it comes through that

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Speaker 1: the failure of two thousand and three in Iraq was

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Speaker 1: it intel failure. There were no weapons of mass destruction.

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Speaker 1: Everybody in the free world believed that there were. Since then,

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Speaker 1: we've seen the Israeli pager and beeper thing. Who knows

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Speaker 1: what's going on inside of Iran right now? Like Bletchley,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to find out until after this war

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Speaker 1: is over by some period of time.

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Speaker 6: Do you think we might be able.

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Speaker 1: To develop a little strategic patients in Generation Alpha and

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Speaker 1: Generation Z?

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Speaker 10: You know, I think there will be incredible books written

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Speaker 10: about this already. Even you know, we're seeing though these

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Speaker 10: besiege you know, neighborhood targets and they're being targeted by throne,

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Speaker 10: which is something that we previously, I think only could

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Speaker 10: have done with ground troops. So we're seeing the ability

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Speaker 10: of the US and it's Israel that targeted these besieged

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Speaker 10: militias neighborhood depots from the air. We're seeing things done

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Speaker 10: by air that we wouldn't have been able to do previously.

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Speaker 10: And I think there are two open questions for the

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Speaker 10: sort of opening phase of this war. The first is,

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Speaker 10: and we saw the Energy Secretary allude to this, will

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Speaker 10: the US succeed in being able to escort tankers through

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Speaker 10: the Persian Gulf? It looks like they want to do that,

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Speaker 10: and they haven't been or sorry in the Strait of

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Speaker 10: Hormuz and sort of open that traffic again it's effectively

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Speaker 10: closed right now. And the second is, will the President

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Speaker 10: sign off on some kind of special forces operation to

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Speaker 10: extract the nuclear material from some of these sites. That's

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Speaker 10: sort of what I'm watching, and I think those things

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Speaker 10: could be game changers. And what I'm thinking of is

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Speaker 10: phase one.

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Speaker 6: I hope you're right.

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Speaker 1: I'm expecting something that I did not expect because the

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Speaker 1: Israelis have hinted at stuff that is going to make

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Speaker 1: our minds explode with Wow, they can do that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 6: We're doing it with them.

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Speaker 1: Eleana Y Johnson of the Washington Free Beacon follow on

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Speaker 1: Exit Eleana Y Johnson. Listen to her on the commentary

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Speaker 1: podcast Come right back to the Hugwit Shift.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back, America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, Vic Mattis is the weekend editor and

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Speaker 1: the Culture and Arts editor at the Washington Free Beacon.

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Speaker 1: More importantly, at least more readily recognizable as the co

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Speaker 1: host of the Getting Hammered podcast. I think by most

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Speaker 1: of my audience a new addition of Getting Hammered is

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Speaker 1: out there where it was revealed that all of the

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Speaker 1: Mattis family suffered from scolopendrophobia.

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Speaker 6: Vic did you know that?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that, but that is true.

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Speaker 11: That is the word school of pendra gigantia. That is

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Speaker 11: the one that I mentioned on the show. My son

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Speaker 11: found in Jamaica, and that was big, bright red and orange.

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Speaker 11: It can kill rhode hue and frogs.

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Speaker 6: So beware. Look.

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Speaker 12: Look, I too suffer from scolopendrophobia. I've just never had

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Speaker 12: to deal with it, and so I found it very

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Speaker 12: amusing that that particular. What's the genus in the species?

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Speaker 1: How do you say?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, school of gigantia. That is the giant centipede.

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Speaker 1: All right, So that giant centipede met its end underneath

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Speaker 1: the cement cinderblock? Am I correct?

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Speaker 6: That is correct?

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Speaker 11: They initially tried to my son and a buddy tried

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Speaker 11: to decapitate it using you know, a can of bug spray.

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Speaker 11: That didn't really work out too well. So you know,

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Speaker 11: second time was the charm. Shall I say, what about

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Speaker 11: the old here? Crawned this piece of paper and I'll

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Speaker 11: put you outside approach.

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Speaker 6: You know what it was outside?

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Speaker 13: You know?

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Speaker 11: I mean there are a lot of animals where we say,

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Speaker 11: you know, like mice, for example, you're outside, we're inside.

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Speaker 6: We get to mind our own business unless you cross

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Speaker 6: that threshold.

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Speaker 11: Centipedes I don't think have any business anywhere, so they

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Speaker 11: should just be where wherever they are.

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Speaker 1: They are obviously that we believe in evolutionary biology here

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Speaker 1: at the New Yorks, and they came from somewhere to

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Speaker 1: do something and they survived for some reason.

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Speaker 6: I just hope you didn't upset the eco wings of

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Speaker 6: the butterfly stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: No, that's a good point. We'll take our chance though.

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Speaker 6: Could be a tidal wave. I'm just saying that's what happened.

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Speaker 6: But it made me think. I sent my daughter off

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Speaker 6: to Ukraine when she was thirteen on a youth mission.

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Speaker 6: She went back at fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Both times, I had no idea what I was doing

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Speaker 1: and just trusted in God and the leaders of the

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Speaker 1: group that went with her. What do you think about

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Speaker 1: youth missions.

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Speaker 11: It's something that when I was young, I probably would

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Speaker 11: not have done because I would have been focused on

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Speaker 11: going somewhere to have a good time. And that was

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Speaker 11: certainly within my son's right, and a lot of kids

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Speaker 11: obviously choose to do that. They work hard, they study

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Speaker 11: all year great and you hear about it every time

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Speaker 11: you and I you go to church. They always talk

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Speaker 11: about raising funds for these youth missions. And then you

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Speaker 11: hear about a firsthand. In the case with you, your

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Speaker 11: daughter going to Ukraine, and I didn't.

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Speaker 6: I don't do that with your.

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Speaker 11: Daughter, I should say yes, And your daughter's case, I

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Speaker 11: should say And in mine with my it was my

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Speaker 11: son and it was through Mustard Seed and it was

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Speaker 11: a place called Blessed Assurance. And it's absolutely, you know, heartbreaking.

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Speaker 11: These kids who are abandoned, they have no fathers, they

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Speaker 11: have severe disabilities, and somebody has to take care of them.

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Speaker 11: And when they were asked, the students going over there,

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Speaker 11: what do we need to do, they were told largely

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Speaker 11: just being present with them, you know, so they're not

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Speaker 11: always alone, was enough to make their day, make them happy.

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Speaker 6: It's something that they look forward to every year, these visits,

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Speaker 6: and so it does. It's meaningful. And even though my

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Speaker 6: son did it.

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Speaker 11: After he applied to colleges, so nobody will ever know

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Speaker 11: that he just did this because he wanted to do it.

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Speaker 11: It's for a very good cause and it's something that

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Speaker 11: I think he will carry with him in different causes

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Speaker 11: in the future.

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Speaker 1: You ought to be very proud of yourself or of

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Speaker 1: your son, and of your wife for in gendering a.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of fearlessness. But a friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: Bad McGuire, he's now Father Adad McGuire. Any ministers in

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix diocese, now he might be mon Senior McGuire.

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Speaker 1: Now I have no idea, but I haven't seen him

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Speaker 1: in ten years, but he did the first many years

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Speaker 1: of his vocation in Jamaica before coming back to Phoenix

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Speaker 1: to be a parish priest. And Jamaica people think of

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Speaker 1: as sandals, resorts and hurricane drinks, right, it's not. It's

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Speaker 1: an impoverished island.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's very poor. I mean it's not Haiti poor,

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Speaker 6: but it is very poor and there's a very high

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Speaker 6: crime level. As some people know.

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Speaker 11: We think about the tourist destinations as you mentioned, such

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Speaker 11: as in Negrill in Montego Bay, but.

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Speaker 6: A lot of the island it's very poor. And again

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Speaker 6: we're talking about a lot of kids.

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Speaker 11: This is according to the Jamaicans that they spoke to,

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Speaker 11: So this is anecdotal where they said, you know, a

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Speaker 11: lot of children, not a lot of fathers around and

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Speaker 11: it's an unfortunate situation and they need help, even you know,

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Speaker 11: in this day and age. And they just had a

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Speaker 11: terrible hurricane that went through right through that particular facility,

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Speaker 11: so they didn't even have running water.

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Speaker 6: They had to truck in the water every day. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's right there. It's not very far from from you know,

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Speaker 6: our shores.

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Speaker 11: What is Mustard Seed, Yeah, so that is a Christian

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Speaker 11: mission organization and they have different locations in a number

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Speaker 11: of places where they are out there helping those who.

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Speaker 6: Are unable to help themselves. And we're talking about.

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Speaker 11: The poorest of the poor and people with and particularly

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Speaker 11: children with severe disabilities. And they invite mission groups from

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Speaker 11: the United States to go over there and spend time

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Speaker 11: and build and play and feed feed those who can't

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Speaker 11: even feed themselves. I mean, they have issues whether it

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Speaker 11: be muscular dystrophy or a combination of Down syndrome and autism.

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Speaker 11: And so one of the big things they do, for example,

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Speaker 11: is a diaper drive because and it's not just for babies,

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Speaker 11: because a lot of them are our childer children who

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Speaker 11: still have these disabilities.

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Speaker 6: And so again it's just it's easy to think about,

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Speaker 6: and you send.

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Speaker 11: Money, we donate places. I'm like this, but being there

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Speaker 11: in person, I think it changes a lot of your perspective.

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Speaker 11: Jeans too, We've had a similar experience, as you know,

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Speaker 11: when he wrote that book about Mother Teresa and he

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Speaker 11: went to India and had changed his life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of ursho used to do that and

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Speaker 1: or they still do it. And I used to hear

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Speaker 1: about that from the famous priest. But now I want

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Speaker 1: to go to the war Biota. We had two minutes left.

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Speaker 1: They got to ask what's wrong with American media? I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're winning this thing decisively, but we have not yet

861
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Speaker 1: decisively won that gas has gone up a buck of

862
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Speaker 1: barrel or a bucket gallon at the pump. It's not

863
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Speaker 1: the Battle of the Atlantic with Great Britain facing starvation.

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Speaker 6: What in the world is wrong with the media?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, this isn't exactly. This isn't the Battle of

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Speaker 11: Jutland going on over here. There's obviously a general hatred

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Speaker 11: or a distaste for the president and the current administration,

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Speaker 11: and so every bit of bad news. And you see

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Speaker 11: this on the front pages of so many papers now

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Speaker 11: and even you know, I get the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 11: and the news is very different from the editorial side,

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Speaker 11: as you know, and the news side. It's just all

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Speaker 11: bad news one day after another. I don't remember seeing

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Speaker 11: a big picture of Iranian celebrating in the street after Iotola.

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Speaker 6: Kahmane was killed, but you do see, you know, it

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Speaker 6: was a big picture.

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Speaker 11: It was either in today or yesterday's edition, after the

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Speaker 11: announcement of Kahmane's son being named the next Ayatola. It

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Speaker 11: just gives you the impression that we're dealing with Vietnam

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Speaker 11: here and a debacle. What in fact, this thing is

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Speaker 11: not even two weeks old. Yet there's a lot of

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Speaker 11: progress that has been made with the President said that

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Speaker 11: air superiority, the number of drone attacks being launched against

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Speaker 11: and we have to accept that that is all positive news.

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Speaker 11: And you're you know, it's not going to happen overnight,

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Speaker 11: and the regular military eventually is going to have to

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Speaker 6: But again, it's going to take time, and we just

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Speaker 6: have to do everything that we can to facilitate that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I would like to see major media

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Speaker 1: outlets say we are in favor of the Iranian people

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Speaker 1: being free and of the United States and Israel winning

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Speaker 1: this war, that the UAE and the other Guelph allies

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Speaker 1: will not be attacked. It's not that hard, but it's

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Speaker 1: impossible for legacy media to say Vic Matis good to

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Speaker 1: talk to the new Getting Hammered podcasts that with Mary

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Speaker 1: Catherine Hammon, Vic Matis Pollovic and Victor Reino Matis on

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Speaker 1: X Freedom at the Free Bacon. Stay tuned to the

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Speaker 1: Hugh Hewits.

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Speaker 6: Welcome Back America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewlett, joined now by Josh Crosshauer, editor in

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Speaker 1: chief of Jewish Insider. Josh, I have not said much

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Speaker 1: about the attack on the synagogue in West Boomfield, Michigan

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Speaker 1: this morning, because I'm always leary at first reports. What's

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Speaker 1: your understanding of what happened in the situation to now

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Speaker 1: at this moment.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, no, this is what every Jewish family, Jewish parent

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Speaker 14: worries about when they when they send their kids off

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Speaker 14: to preschool the synagogue, as I understand, how's a large preschool,

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Speaker 14: and there were kids in the building where the attack

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Speaker 14: took place. But this looks like a you know, the

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Speaker 14: classic terrorist attack with a car driving through the synagogue door.

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Speaker 14: The guy had guns, explosives, He wanted to cause as

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Speaker 14: much mayhem and slaughter as possible. And thankfully and got

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Speaker 14: a real blessing that there was a security guard who

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Speaker 14: was involved in a lot of training as many leaders

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Speaker 14: and Jewish institutions are involved in these days, and was

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Speaker 14: prepared and was able to to kill the.

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Speaker 13: Terrorist.

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Speaker 14: It's it's a miracle that that there was no further

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Speaker 14: injury other than to the security guard and and and

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Speaker 14: everyone remained safe.

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Speaker 13: But this was making no mistake. This looks like a

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Speaker 13: terrorist attack.

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Speaker 14: And uh, you know that this is what a lot

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Speaker 14: of Jews across the country are worried about on a

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Speaker 14: daily basis.

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Speaker 13: That you can see the threat level is at all

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Speaker 13: time highs.

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Speaker 14: You see the actual uh documented cases of anti Semitism

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Speaker 14: or at historical historical highs right now. And you see

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Speaker 14: the rhetoric on the far left and the far right

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Speaker 14: that the tolerating a degree of hate and anti Semitism

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Speaker 14: that I've never seen before in my lifetime. So this

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Speaker 14: is something that a lot of folks have been fearful about.

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Speaker 14: But there's also a lot of preparation within the Jewish

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Speaker 14: community and within Jewish institutions that actually do these types

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Speaker 14: of you know, active shooter drills to prepare what for

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Speaker 14: what happens when you do have a terrorists that is

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Speaker 14: desperate to intending to do damage to your institution. And

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Speaker 14: they were prepared, and it looks like they were able

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Speaker 14: to forestall what could have been a much worse terrorist attack.

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Speaker 1: Now, josh, I understand why police do not tell us

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Speaker 1: much about the identity of the terrorists for some time.

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Speaker 1: They have to check social media accounts, they've got to

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Speaker 1: go back to the home or the apartment at the house,

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Speaker 1: the community, make sure there aren't explosives there, variety of things.

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Speaker 1: But I am a big believer in flooding the zone

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Speaker 1: with information about the would be killer as soon as

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Speaker 1: possible in order to profile for other people in other

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Speaker 1: communities who might be at risk of self radicalizing.

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Speaker 6: Do you agree that or disagree with that?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look, I think the more information the better.

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Speaker 14: It helps us understand the motivation and the kind of

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Speaker 14: threat that these institutions are dealing with on a daily basis.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, I want to switch to Lebanon. In

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Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, Hesbalia has fired more than

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Speaker 1: two hundred missiles in rockets at Israel. About half of

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Speaker 1: them did not make it out of Lebanon, but half

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Speaker 1: of them did. To my knowledge, there are no deaths,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know for sure because Israeli media is

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Speaker 1: mostly in Hebrew, not in English. I think this means

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a ground invasion in Lebanon. What

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Speaker 1: do you think?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, look, that's a possibility. It's being discussed

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Speaker 14: in the Israeli press. You know, clearly Husble was badly,

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Speaker 14: badly weakend during the Israel's previous operations in Lebanon after

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Speaker 14: a cover seventh, but there's still a presence and they

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Speaker 14: clearly kind of unleashed their their missile large old in

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Speaker 14: the last twenty four to forty eight hours, which is

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Speaker 14: in Israel has been very, very aggressive in mounting operations

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Speaker 14: in Beyroot and other places within southern Lebanon to neutralize

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Speaker 14: their capability. So HUSBL is still very much a threat.

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Speaker 14: It sounds like they're kind of throwing the kitchen's sake

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Speaker 14: of a wounded and graded husbook still is a threat,

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Speaker 14: and they're trying to, uh, you know, unload. I guess

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Speaker 14: they're their missile missile barrage, but uh, you know, I

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Speaker 14: think it's more of a last gasp from a wounded

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Speaker 14: terrorist organization backed by Iran, of course, than a sign.

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Speaker 13: Of it their real real power.

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Speaker 14: I mean, they hope hopefully by the end of this conflict,

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Speaker 14: by the end of these military operations.

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Speaker 13: Uh, that has below A no longer be capable of on.

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Speaker 1: Some of the accounts, your correspondent, Uh, how about hard

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Speaker 1: cop will be on with us next hour and maybe

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Speaker 1: I would get a chance to ask current But I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you for covering Hebrew language media and

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Speaker 1: Jewish media coming out of an English language media coming

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Speaker 1: out of Israel. Do you think Net and Yahoo is

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Speaker 1: messaging that we're at the end of the beginning or

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Speaker 1: we're at the beginning of the end. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the former, but I'm I'm not skilled and then reading BB.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, look, if there's any I mean, I think the US,

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Speaker 14: if you look at the overall picture, the alliance between

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Speaker 14: the US and Israel and the coordination has been been

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Speaker 14: quite strong.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 13: I think the one difference has been that who has rhetorically.

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Speaker 14: At least UH talked about you know that since the

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Speaker 14: war began, talked about regime changed, and they certainly hope

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Speaker 14: to oust the current regime. That that has not necessarily

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Speaker 14: been the US stated goal. And and and I think

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Speaker 14: that's one one area that is going to kind of

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Speaker 14: be As far as the timeline you're talking about, Hugh,

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Speaker 14: I think that's going to dictate the timeline. Look, and

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Speaker 14: you're right about has not set artificial timetables. He has,

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Speaker 14: he has prepared Israel and the Israeli public has prepared

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Speaker 14: for all these you know, going to the bomb shelters

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Speaker 14: on on a regular basis every day since the war

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Speaker 14: began for a longer h conflict were already passed the

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Speaker 14: twelve days of the of the war last year. And

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Speaker 14: I think with this, you know, based on Trump's comments,

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Speaker 14: based on Natiyahu's comments today This certainly could go on

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Speaker 14: for for some thought, for at least a few or

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Speaker 14: four weeks, if not longer.

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Speaker 1: A last story to note that is covering up on

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Speaker 1: x Apparently Iranian civilians are sending video to the IDF

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Speaker 1: in the US of where the besiege and the IRGC

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Speaker 1: have set up checkpoints. What's that. It's like the French resistance.

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Speaker 1: It's like we're watching a World War two movie. We

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Speaker 1: want to free that people will be Iran because they

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Speaker 1: want to be free.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean the mesiege are the police who's slaughter

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Speaker 14: played around slaughtering the tens of thousands of the protesters

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Speaker 14: this year. And it does seem like there's some intel,

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Speaker 14: at least some reporting I've seen that suggest that some

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Speaker 14: of the targets in the last twenty four hours I've

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Speaker 14: been against these very.

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Speaker 13: Police stations, these besieged police headquarters.

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Speaker 14: So I haven't heard a whole lot more other than that,

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Speaker 14: but it certainly is a positive indicator that they're targeting

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Speaker 14: effectively some of the worst elements of this Iradian regime.

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Speaker 1: Josh Krusher are always good to talk to you, Follo

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Speaker 1: Chairman at GIT Pie was the FCC chair during President

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Speaker 1: Trump's first term. He's now the chairman of the Wireless

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Speaker 1: Association in Washington, d c CTIA. Chairman Pie welcome back

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Speaker 1: before we go to wireless and all the great things

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Speaker 1: that are happening there and there are I just got

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Speaker 1: to ask it resigning Kelsey, really, isn't it a little

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Speaker 1: bit old?

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Speaker 6: Isn't he about as old as I am?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 15: You know, it's a little bit of the old, little

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Speaker 15: bit of the new bringing you back. Travis Kelsey just

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Speaker 15: signed Kenneth Walker. Hopefully Mahomes gets back into the swing

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Speaker 15: of things soon enough, so we'll see. But it was

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Speaker 15: definitely a disappointing season for the Chief's Kingdom, and I

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Speaker 15: know that you and millions of Americans are really sympathetic

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Speaker 15: to the Chiefs fan base for the tough season we

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Speaker 15: had and are hoping for better things in the year

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Speaker 15: to come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, mister Chairman, as a Browns fan, I wish you

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Speaker 1: nothing but secondary luck. Well, let's go to wireless, and

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Speaker 1: one of my great sponsors is Consumer Cellular, and I

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Speaker 1: got to make people make sure people understand this is

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Speaker 1: not them, They are not sponsoring this. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk to Chairman Pie because the cost of wireless is

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Speaker 1: coming down all across the United States, even as gas

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Speaker 1: goes up.

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Speaker 6: During the war.

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Speaker 1: Why is that, mister Chairman, It's all.

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Speaker 15: About supply and demand where there's a lot of competition,

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Speaker 15: and the wireless industry. In fact, when it comes to

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Speaker 15: affordability for consumers, wireless is leading the way. If you

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Speaker 15: look at where consumers are when they're on the go

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Speaker 15: mobile plans, cell phone plans are down eight percent from

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Speaker 15: their highs during the Biden administration. That's because wireless companies

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Speaker 15: have been buying spectrum, spending thirty billion dollars on average

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Speaker 15: each year to build wireless infrastructure, and that results in better, faster,

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Speaker 15: cheaper cell phone plans for American consumers and even at home. Now,

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Speaker 15: the big story over the last couple of years is

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Speaker 15: that wireless companies have been injecting competition into a marketplace

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Speaker 15: that had long been dominated by cable companies, among others,

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Speaker 15: who really didn't face that much competition. And so there

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Speaker 15: over the last three years, ninety nine percent of subscribers

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Speaker 15: who are applying for broadband for the first time are

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Speaker 15: choosing fixed wireless provided by some of our members. So

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Speaker 15: it's simply a part of the the basic economic equation.

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Speaker 15: When you put spectrum in place, if you allow companies

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Speaker 15: to ability infrastructure, great things are going to happen for

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00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 15: the American consumer. And that's essentially the story when it

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Speaker 15: comes to affordability.

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Speaker 1: Chairman Pie, You're ownership of Chicago lostical grad so you

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00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: are an economic theorist. You get your law with economic

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00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: theory baked into it. This was going to happen once

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00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: we opened up the marketplace. Same thing happened after AT

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00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: and T was broken up. How long did the benefits

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00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: continue to flow downhill from the expansion of competition and wireless.

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00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 15: It's literally endless. In fact, the best marker we can

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 15: have of that is that when the SEC lost auction

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00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 15: authority a few years ago, back in twenty twenty three

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00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 15: during the previous administration, the spectrum pipeline essentially stopped. There

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00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 15: was no more spectrum coming into the marketplace. Thanks to

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00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 15: the One Big Beautiful Bill last year and President Trump's

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00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 15: repeated statements that he wanted to have that spectrum auction

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00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 15: authority re established and to get the SEC auctioning spectrum again,

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 15: now the figots have been opened, Chairman Cars doing a

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00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 15: great job at the SEC taking that authority and running

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00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 15: with it or having spectrum auctions again. So it really

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Speaker 15: makes a big difference. And the other critical point view

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00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 15: is that Unlike some in the communications ecosystem, when it

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00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 15: comes to spectrum, wireless companies are actually paying for the

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Speaker 15: right to use that public resource. That money goes into

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Speaker 15: the treasury. And so the auction program of the SEC,

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Speaker 15: thanks to wireless companies, has yielded hundreds of billions of

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Speaker 15: dollars for the American taxpayer, in addition to the competitive

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00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 15: benefits that flow to the American consumer year over year.

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Speaker 15: And so one way or the other, the American citizen,

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Speaker 15: both as taxpayer and as wireless consumer, is reaping the

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Speaker 15: benefit of that great Ronald Coast paper back in nineteen

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00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 15: fifty nine, which, as you remember, suggested this crazy idea,

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 15: why should the SEC just auction off this clearest resource

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00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 15: instead of picking whoever its friends might be out in

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Speaker 15: the audience. And so it's been a great success, and

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00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 15: thanks to President Trump for getting this into the One

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00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 15: Big Beautiful Bill last year.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking with a gepie. He used to be the

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Speaker 1: chairman of the FC. He now runs the Wireless Association,

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00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: so he's not gonna pick winners and losers among the wireless.

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Speaker 1: But I think I can say Chairman PI, performance is

1141
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: up everywhere, by which I mean we do have dueling

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00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: celebrities on TV trying to tell us that they can

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00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: get signals in even more remote places. That's not really

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00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 1: the average American is looking to do it where there

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00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: are a lot of cell towers around.

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Speaker 6: Performance is across the board better. Why is that?

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Speaker 15: It's because there's so much more spectrum in the marketplace

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Speaker 15: now than there was before. In addition to that, of

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00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 15: the companies are using those airwaves in much more efficient ways.

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00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 15: They're always investing in research and development, hiring really smart

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00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 15: engineers to figure out how can we squeeze more data

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00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 15: through a certain part of the airwaves. And as a

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 15: result of that more spectrum company market and that spectrum

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00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 15: being used more efficiently, believe it or not, speeds are

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00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 15: up one hundred and fifty seven percent since twenty ten,

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Speaker 15: and in some cases well over three hundred percent. And

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00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 15: so it's just incredible what the engineering in the wireless

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00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 15: sector has done to make the consumer experience better. We

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Speaker 15: might not notice a day to day because you know,

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Speaker 15: we're typically thinking of where things were yesterday versus today,

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Speaker 15: But when you look at the longer spans of time,

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Speaker 15: you remember what cell phones were like just fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I remember wireless modem. Mister Chairman, I'm the connect thing.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm always amazed, always amazed at the performance.

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Speaker 1: Now I do want to dig depa into something that's

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Speaker 1: a little obscure. I teach con law and every year

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00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: I have to do the dormant commerce clause, and of

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: course the kids fall away because nobody wants to do that.

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00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: We now have local taxing authorities, state and local putting

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Speaker 1: taxes on wireless. Why is that not unconstitutional?

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Speaker 15: This could not be a more timely conversation.

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Speaker 3: Hu.

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Speaker 15: In fact, just yesterday I met with Senator Mike Lee

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Speaker 15: and each of our eyes lit up when the dormant

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00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 15: commerce class got brought up. And I think, yeah, it's

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Speaker 15: one of those only in DC type of conversations. But

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Speaker 15: I think this is an important conversation to have. You

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Speaker 15: identified one of them, which is local taxation, which is

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Speaker 15: focused on things like wireless, or there are some attempts

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Speaker 15: at local price regulation, which is of course a cousin

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Speaker 15: to taxation. We're seeing that increasingly in some of these

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 15: jurisdictions which are looking to regulate essentially what is inherently

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Speaker 15: an interstate activity. And so one of the points I

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Speaker 15: raised with Centator to lead I'll share with you now

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01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 15: is that my own views that were coming to the

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Speaker 15: point where there should be a conversation about the dormant

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Speaker 15: commerce clause and any kind of preemption of some of

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Speaker 15: the state and local regulation that's coming out there, because

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Speaker 15: essentially what you're seeing in Sacramento, in some of these

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Speaker 15: towns across the country is the attempt to raise revenue

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Speaker 15: and essentially discriminate against this interstate activity, which you, as

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Speaker 15: a student of Pike versus a Bruce Church will remember

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Speaker 15: in other dormant common cases, this is one of the

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Speaker 15: things that could inhibit America's national competitiveness and essentially restrain

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Speaker 15: what is this important interstate activity. So I hope Congress

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Speaker 15: and the White House and others who are interested like

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01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 15: you will help forge this conversation. Arcane is that they

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Speaker 15: might be. I think if you told the average American, look,

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Speaker 15: we have a priority in the United States of beating

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Speaker 15: China when it comes to wireless innovation. We can't do

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Speaker 15: that if there are federal and state and local and

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Speaker 15: need sometimes even tribal hoops that have to be jumped

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Speaker 15: through in terms of regulation and taxation. I think that's

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Speaker 15: something the American people would get behind.

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Speaker 1: And moreover, secret taxation is the worst kind of taxation.

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Speaker 1: It is you don't know that you're paying the bill

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Speaker 1: in your cell phone bill. So at very least I

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Speaker 1: would like Congress to mandate transparency and pricing. I'd love

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Speaker 1: to know how much of my cell phoned bill is

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Speaker 1: going to the state and local authority that's taxing me.

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Speaker 1: I want to close my talking with you a little

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Speaker 1: bit about the spectrum auction. I've been a big proponent

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Speaker 1: of it. DoD did not want it to happen. Now

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Speaker 1: the Department of War. Are we done with the spectrum

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01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: wars or is there still after battles going on?

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Speaker 15: Well, is an ongoing conversation. As part of that bill

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 15: which I mentioned, President Trump signed that there's going to

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01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 15: be an eight hundred megahertz pipeline spectrum coming to the

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01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 15: marketplace of the band spectrum. Bands that are included within

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Speaker 15: that eight hundred or likely to be included involved the

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Speaker 15: Department of War and some of their federal agencies, and

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01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 15: so we as an industry have been cooperatively engaged with

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Speaker 15: them as well as the White House to make sure

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Speaker 15: that there's not a butting of heads here.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 15: The wireless industry believes strongly in national security. We want

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Speaker 15: the country to be able to defend itself while also

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Speaker 15: promoting the wireless innovation that's critical for economic competitiveness VISAVR

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Speaker 15: geopolitical rivals. And here again, President Trump has been a

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Speaker 15: leader on this issue, as he was during the first

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Speaker 15: term when I had the privilege of serving as the chairman,

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Speaker 15: and so I'm confident that's going forward. We'll have a

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Speaker 15: very collaborative relationship with the Department of War, with some

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Speaker 15: of the other federal agencies that are involved. At the

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Speaker 15: end of the day, we all benefit from a strong

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Speaker 15: American wireless sector and that goes no less for federal

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01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 15: agencies than it does for American citizens.

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Speaker 1: Chairman Pi, good to talk to you again. I'll be

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Speaker 1: back inside the Beltway come Saturday. I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: go out from the CTIA and hire Paul Clement or

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: somebody and starts shilling on the dorm commerce claus because

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01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: then the kids will actually be interested when it hits

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Speaker 1: their their pocket. Good to see you again, miss Chairman

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Speaker 1: Joe Brown's I hope we meet with the chiefs this year.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: And when we do we'll talk again. Thank you a

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Speaker 1: jeep pie. Welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewitt, joined down

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Speaker 1: in the Relief Actor studio by Philip Belboni, founder editor

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Speaker 1: in chief of GlobalPost dot com. Once a month Philip

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01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: joins me to talk about some world news that you

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Speaker 1: may not have heard about and is ahead of the headlines.

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Speaker 1: And boy, I was surprised to find Vietnam in the story.

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Speaker 1: Lead Philip, how did first of all, how do I

1254
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: pronounce the leader's name.

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Speaker 6: Lom okay to Lomer.

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Speaker 1: He's doing the doung shaoping thing, if I read you

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Speaker 1: correctly explain to the audience what he's trying to get

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Speaker 1: Vietnam from.

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Speaker 16: And two, so he is instituting one of the most

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Speaker 16: important changes from in a generation in Vietnam. So important

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Speaker 16: for our listeners' viewers to remember that Vietnam is still

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Speaker 16: a communist country ruled by the Vietnamese Communist Party, only

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Speaker 16: one of five countries left in the world ruled by

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Speaker 16: the Communist Party.

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Speaker 7: In about ten years.

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Speaker 16: After the war, our war with Vietnam, which you will

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Speaker 16: remember well, as do I, they introduced their first reform

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Speaker 16: which brought some private enterprise, brought foreign investment into Vietnam

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Speaker 16: for the first time ever. This is the first major

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Speaker 16: change since the nineteen eighties, the mid nineteen eighties. So

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Speaker 16: the new General Secretary is making a big bet. He's

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Speaker 16: basically saying that the private sector is going to be

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Speaker 16: the real driver of the economy of Vietnam for the

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Speaker 16: next ten years, and he's going to put a lot

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Speaker 16: of money behind it and his influence and power.

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Speaker 7: Behind it.

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Speaker 16: To try to move Vietnam from where it is right now,

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Speaker 16: which is a pretty impressive manufacturing center in Southeast Asia.

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Speaker 16: I mean, Vietnam is one hundred billion dollar trade surplus

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Speaker 16: with the United States. Basically they manufacture electronics and other

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Speaker 16: things with inexpensive labor, and then a ship all over

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Speaker 16: the world, particularly to the United States and Europe.

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Speaker 1: Am I right to be reminded of China under dunk

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Speaker 1: shopping when he moved the polist model to the capitalism

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Speaker 1: with Chinese characteristics or socialism with Chinese I don't know

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Speaker 1: what he called it, but it was basically, we got

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Speaker 1: to get out of the communist model it donemore.

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Speaker 7: Exactly. And look what happened to China because of that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, China is you know, the number two economy

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Speaker 7: in the world.

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Speaker 16: I mean, obviously, they're export sector is immensely powerful, and

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Speaker 16: they're investing in so many other areas, so you're absolutely

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Speaker 16: right to reference that this is really a direct correlation.

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Speaker 16: They did have an earlier phase. Now this is a

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Speaker 16: new phase, and the General Secretary of Tailan wants to

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Speaker 16: invest in twenty industries that he sees as critical to

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Speaker 16: the future of the global economy and to Vietnam's opportunity.

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Speaker 7: You know, to move forward. Now, you know, this is

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Speaker 7: not easy to do in a.

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Speaker 16: Country like Vietnam, where the there's a lot of entrenched

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Speaker 16: power in the state run industries. The big military sector

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Speaker 16: is still very powerful. They run a lot of these companies.

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Speaker 16: They make a lot of money the generals from this.

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Speaker 16: So he'll get resistance. But he's a pretty powerful.

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Speaker 6: Guy, and I wanted to go to that.

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Speaker 1: I did not understand that Tolan was looking to do

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Speaker 1: what now, I'm going to switch Chinese leaders on us

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Speaker 1: what Ji jinping ha done, which is basically eliminate everybody

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Speaker 1: but himself from the control of everything. And he wants

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Speaker 1: to be president now as well as general secretary. He's

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Speaker 1: sixty eight years old. He could do this for a while.

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Speaker 16: He could Oh my goodness, look at some of our leaders, right,

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Speaker 16: So I mean sixty eight is young, let's face it.

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Speaker 16: I mean really sixty eight is in fact young nowadays.

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Speaker 16: So he could be powerful for a long time. And

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Speaker 16: you're right, he does want to be president and he

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Speaker 16: may well be. If he's not, then that would mean

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Speaker 16: that probably one of the generals would move into that

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Speaker 16: position and would have the opportunity to kind of block

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Speaker 16: maybe some of his reforms.

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Speaker 7: So it's going to be a fascinating thing to see.

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Speaker 16: And you know, those of us who either remember or

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Speaker 16: serve in the Vietnam War, I mean this country, which

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Speaker 16: I was last in as a first lieutenant in the

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Speaker 16: United States Army in nineteen sixty six. When I look

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Speaker 16: at the changes that have taken place there, the dynamism

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Speaker 16: of that country.

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Speaker 7: Is nothing short of amazing.

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Speaker 1: They have one big problem, Phil I did not I

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Speaker 1: wasn't part of the Vietnam War. It's not my generation,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't get called. But I did go to

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Speaker 1: Vietnam before COVID and they had a water problem. The

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Speaker 1: Coong Delta was being diverted by China, and they had

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Speaker 1: a water problem in the Delta and every because they

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Speaker 1: all work for the state, they're all communists, so they're

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Speaker 1: giving us the party line. But is there any pushed

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Speaker 1: by them to go into desalinization or to solve their

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Speaker 1: water problem because they can't really rely on China not

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Speaker 1: to screw with them.

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Speaker 16: I don't think they've gotten into desalinization like some of

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Speaker 16: the golf countries that we're.

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Speaker 7: All talking about right now, and I think their water

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Speaker 7: problem is still there. So and agriculture is still very

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Speaker 7: important in Vietnam.

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Speaker 16: I mean back in the sixties and seventies, it was

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Speaker 16: very much in agrarian society, and now they moved to,

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Speaker 16: you know, being a big manufacturing center for the world

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Speaker 16: and for Southeast Asia.

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Speaker 1: Well, now I know more about Vietnam than I did yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and that's because of Global Posts, which you can get

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Speaker 1: at GlobalPost dot com and Phil it wouldn't be our

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Speaker 1: How's that going?

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Speaker 6: Is it growing?

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Speaker 16: It is growing, and as you know from our many

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Speaker 16: times together, it is one of the things that we're

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Speaker 16: most proud of is helping young people.

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Speaker 7: We have more than sixteen thousand now.

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Speaker 16: And it's not just in the United States, although mostly

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Speaker 16: in the US, but we have students and teachers in

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Speaker 16: one hundred and eleven countries. I mean from me and

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Speaker 16: Mark to Ghana to the UAE to Yemen, all over Europe.

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Speaker 16: You know, reading nonpartisan world news. I'd really like to

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Speaker 16: think that it's life changing for a lot of young people.

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Speaker 16: And we're doubling down on this. You know, I raised

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Speaker 16: money to help support this and we never charge a student.

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Speaker 16: We never charge a school or a university, whether they're

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Speaker 7: It's all free I do.

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Speaker 1: That's enough for those who are out there listening. If

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Speaker 1: GlobalPost dot com. If you're an AP teacher of world history,

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Speaker 1: GlobalPost dot com. Philip Balboni can be followed on exit

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Speaker 1: p Balboni just like it sounds, Philip. Thank you always

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Speaker 1: at pleasure. Have a good month out of you. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: the war will be over and when next week talk

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Speaker 1: and we can talk about the after effects of that.

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Speaker 1: From here I go to Israel to talk with Lavat Harkov.

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Speaker 1: Lavav Harkov is with the Jewish Insider from Israel an

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Speaker 1: update on the war. Don't go anywhere in American stay

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to America. As promised, the ho Harkov is back.

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Speaker 1: She is a correspondent for the Jerusalem Insidewish Insider. I

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Speaker 1: used to say, Jerusalem Post Jewish Insider. Well, I do

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Speaker 1: what Bethany Mandel tells me to do. She said, you

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Speaker 1: haven't had Lajava on in a long time. You've got

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Speaker 1: to fix that, so welcome back. I don't even remember

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Speaker 1: when the last time you were on, but that's my mistake,

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Speaker 1: not yours. Thank you for joining us today. Would you

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Speaker 1: give the new listenership, and it's different, and it's very

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Speaker 1: different from when you were last on the quick background

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Speaker 1: on what you do and who you do it for

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Speaker 1: and how you do it with so many kids.

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Speaker 5: Sure, well, I'm writing now for Jewish Insider, which for

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Speaker 5: those who are not familiar, it's a news site based

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Speaker 5: in DC and our main product is a daily newsletter

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Speaker 5: where you get the news you need every day if

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Speaker 5: you are Jewish or interested in Jewish people, or have

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Speaker 5: constituents who are Jewish in politics and international relations.

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Speaker 1: So I listened to your podcast on the Momwars dot

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Speaker 1: substack dot com with Beth So I know that you

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Speaker 1: are an Israeli but that you were born in America.

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Speaker 6: Am I right about that? Or were you born in

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Speaker 6: Israel then went to America and came back.

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Speaker 5: I was born in the US and my mother's Israeli.

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Speaker 5: I'm Israeli now too.

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Speaker 4: I live here now.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and your husband is on reserve duty and

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Speaker 1: we won't talk much about that, but you're raising kids,

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Speaker 1: were a I always ask bethany how her Israeli friends

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Speaker 1: are doing in the middle of this now thirty month

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Speaker 1: of war, and how are you doing? I mean, just

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Speaker 1: are you more resilient. Do you think there will be

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Speaker 1: a lot of PTS in the aftermath of whenever peace

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Speaker 1: arrives across the country.

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Speaker 5: I think we're already seeing across Israel, like people who

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Speaker 5: are having different mental health issues, a lot of soldiers

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Speaker 5: who are coming home with PTSD. You're asking about my home.

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Speaker 5: I think that the current war with Iran, where my

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Speaker 5: kids have been home from school for a week and

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Speaker 5: a half, are running to bomb shelters a lot more

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Speaker 5: frequently than we were in the past. I think it's

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Speaker 5: the barrages are smaller, but they've been more frequent than

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Speaker 5: the Iran war last year, so it has been difficult

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Speaker 5: and sort of causes a lot of anxiety in the kids.

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Speaker 5: I do think it'll help them sort of be resilient

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Speaker 5: and overcome, you know, the smaller obstacles and bumps in

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Speaker 5: their roads in the future. So that's my hope that

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Speaker 5: that's something that they get out of this.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talked pretty regularly with Ivy Ready, Gore

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Speaker 1: and a few other correspondence based in Isuel, like Nadave

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Speaker 1: All and I meet Sagal and of course doctor Warren.

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Speaker 1: I've got to ask them if they think this generation

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Speaker 1: of Israeli children and soldiers will be like the greatest

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Speaker 1: generation in American World War Two. They won't talk about

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Speaker 1: it because everyone went through it. Nobody has a special

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Speaker 1: relationship with it. Do you expect that's what's going to happen?

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Speaker 5: It's interesting, I mean I think that. Look when you

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Speaker 5: start saying and are they going to be the greatest generation?

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Speaker 5: I think people are really really proud of the Israelis

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Speaker 5: who are you know, from eighteen to their early thirties

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Speaker 5: who are fighting in this war. My husband's in his

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Speaker 5: late thirties that he's fighting in this war, but most

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Speaker 5: of the people he's with are younger than him, and

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Speaker 5: people are really proud of how the like gen Z

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Speaker 5: and younger millennials of Israel really stepped up. Despite all

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Speaker 5: the things people like to say about those generations. But

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Speaker 5: in terms of not talking about it, I think it's

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Speaker 5: still a different reality, you know, eighty years later, where

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Speaker 5: people do talk about, you know, mental health and how

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Speaker 5: to process things, and that's definitely part of the public

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Speaker 5: conversation in Israel.

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Speaker 1: So now the big question, and you talked about it

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Speaker 1: a bit with Bethany. There are about sixteen million Jews

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Speaker 1: in the world out of eight point five billion people.

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Speaker 1: But for some reason they draw the mnity the ancient

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Speaker 1: evil hates Jews. And we had an attack in America

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Speaker 1: today on a synagogue in West Bloomfield, Michigan. Details still unfolding.

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Speaker 1: I won't know until late night, more about motive than

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Speaker 1: a shooter and all that sort of stuff. My question,

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Speaker 1: do you expect in gathering to accelerate after this war

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Speaker 1: is over or to decelerate?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think there's two reactions that diaspora Jews have,

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Speaker 5: which is, you know, over the last century, American Jews

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Speaker 5: have very rapidly assimilated, and so the percentage of American

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Speaker 5: Jews who are like really observant and it's part of

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Speaker 5: their day to day lives is pretty small. It's you know,

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Speaker 5: ten percent are Orthodox, but we could say some who

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Speaker 5: aren't Orthodox are very committed to Judaism, but it's still

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Speaker 5: significantly less than half right. And so I think that

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Speaker 5: people are going to look and try to make a choice,

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Speaker 5: and some of them are going to say, I just

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Speaker 5: want to assimilate and just try to be American. And

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Speaker 5: you know, there's this expression that you know, the woke

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Speaker 5: people like to use that's white enough. JeOS are white passing,

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Speaker 5: and they're just going to try to fit in in America,

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Speaker 5: and then some will feel you know, no, I'm not

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Speaker 5: going to hide who I am. I'm very proud of

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Speaker 5: my history and my people, and then they might be

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Speaker 5: inspired to have a greater connection to Israel, including emigrating.

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Speaker 6: I'll be right back with Lahab Harkob. Go nowhere.

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Speaker 1: You can find her over on ex at Lahab Parkov.

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Speaker 1: I'll be right backstage to.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back America.

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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt. Lahab Parkob is with me. She's with

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Speaker 1: Jewish Insight, or you can follow her on x at

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Speaker 1: Lahab Harkov. No underscore, nothing, just Lahab Harkob, and she's

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Speaker 1: a star Wars geek. I learned that from Bethany Mandel.

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Speaker 1: We won't bring up your perim or purim, or however

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Speaker 1: you say it. I am a gentile. I mispronounced everything

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Speaker 1: having anything remotely to do with Hebrew Lahab, so I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry about that. What is your satisfaction level with the

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01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: government's communication of the war plan with a.

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Speaker 5: So, you know, as somebody who covers Israel for an

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Speaker 5: American audience, I'm looking at the communications in both countries,

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Speaker 5: and I think in some ways the Israeli government is

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01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 5: communicating the goals and the reasons much better than American

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01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 5: than the US government. But on the other hand, I

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01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 5: think that Israelis were much more prepped for this, right like,

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Speaker 5: I think for at least the past fifteen years, but

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Speaker 5: really more if people were paying close attention to the news.

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01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 5: Israelis have known that Iran is trying to build a

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Speaker 5: nuclear weapon that serves as a serious threat to our lives.

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Speaker 5: And they know that Iran pays the terrorist groups that

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01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 5: have been attacking us, you know, for many decades.

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Speaker 14: And so.

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Speaker 5: Israelis were primed for this message, right We didn't. We

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01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 5: were told what it's about from the first night of

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01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 5: the war, but we also knew it already. And when

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Speaker 5: you look at polls, eighty percent of Israelis and ninety

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01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 5: percent of Israeli Jews support the war, and that's in

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01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 5: more than one poll in the US. I think that

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01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 5: it's just not I mean, yes, people have seen news

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01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,679
Speaker 5: about Iran ever since the revolution and the hostage situation

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01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 5: that came with the revolution, but I think it just

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01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:24,720
Speaker 5: wasn't as much of the conversation and so people need

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01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 5: much better communication in order to understand why this is

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Speaker 5: important and why Iran poses a threat to the US

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Speaker 5: and not just Israel in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: Now, I talk with Dan seen Or at the beginning

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01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: of the show about this, and so I'm going to

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01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 1: pose the same question to you. Americans are an impatient bunch,

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01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: and unless they know the end of something, they want

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01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 1: to know how long the movie is before it starts.

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01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: We don't know how long this war is going to be,

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01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:53,919
Speaker 1: and we can't for the same reason that Bletchley Park wasn't.

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Speaker 6: Known during World War Two, and for the same.

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: Reason Israel didn't tell Hesbal, hey, we've got your beepers

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01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: in your page is wired.

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Speaker 6: We don't tell people what we're doing in a war.

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Speaker 1: Are israelis more accepting of uncertainty than you think Americans are?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we've been living with serious uncertainty for

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01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 5: the past two and a half years. It's not to

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01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 5: say that there aren't voices in the mainstream Israeli media

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01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 5: who you know, are trying to put up an hour

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01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 5: glass or turn over the hourglass so that we can

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01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 5: end the war already, because certainly nobody is like even

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01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 5: while we support the war. We're not happy to be

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 5: at war, but I do think that again, Israelis, we're

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01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 5: just a lot more prepared for this.

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Speaker 1: All right now, I want to ask for your crystal ball.

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01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: It seems to me that Israeli media and the IDEF

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01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: and the Prime Minister are preparing Israelis for the occupation

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01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: of Lebanon from the Latani River south and the evacuation

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01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: of all Lebanese citizens in that region until such time

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01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: as has bea law is disbanded and disarmed. Is that

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: the messaging? Am I getting it right?

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Speaker 5: So there's been some reports the government has not put

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01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 5: out any messaging to that effect. I think, you know,

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01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 5: Israel already militarily occupied that area for eighteen years, although

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01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 5: they didn't evacuate all the residents at that time. So

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01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 5: maybe if they are all like you guys do, they

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01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 5: could actually get the work done a lot quicker. But

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Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of people who will

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01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 5: be more resistant to that if that becomes the message.

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01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 5: But certainly I think that a broader ground invasion of Lebanon,

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Speaker 5: much like we saw soon after the October seventh attacks,

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01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 5: and then she's allowed joined on October eighth, I think

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Speaker 5: we might see a repeat of that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I think has to happen in order

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Speaker 1: to finish the war. And I also think something has

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01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: to be done with a MOS. Even though they're cut off,

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01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 1: even though they're out of money, even though they are

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01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: they're not being resupplied with ammunition. They can't be allowed

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Speaker 1: to stay there.

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Speaker 6: That's my view. What is your view?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, Hamas will never be disarmed

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Speaker 5: by anyone other than Israel. It's very clear that nobody

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Speaker 5: has the motivation the will to do that other than Israel.

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Speaker 5: And the US and Israel are already finding a different

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Speaker 5: war together. So well, Trump has made some statements that

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01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 5: might make people think the US will be doing that.

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01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 5: I really have my doubts, and so I think it's

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01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 5: just a matter of time before Israel has to go

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01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 5: in there again and fully defeat Hamas. I think President Trump,

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Speaker 5: on the one hand, you know, he had his ceasefire plan,

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01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 5: but I think that if Hamas is not disarmed and

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01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:50,520
Speaker 5: Hamas continues to attack Israeli soldiers, that he'll be pretty understanding.

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01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 5: Like from his statements, he says all the time, they

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Speaker 5: need to be disarmed, and Israel will need that support

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Speaker 5: in all likelihood in order to do it.

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Speaker 1: Now, last question in Lahav. I know you're a student

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Speaker 1: of history. It took a long time for historians to

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Speaker 1: decide that World War two began on September one, nineteen

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Speaker 1: thirty nine, even though the United States wasn't bombed until

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Speaker 1: December seventh, nineteen forty one. I think this war started

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01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: on ten seven, and I think it will end when

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01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: all of Iran's tentacles are dead and the head of

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01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: the snake is not even twitching anymore, and until that time,

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Speaker 1: it's the same war. How do you think about it?

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Speaker 1: Many wars are one war.

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Speaker 5: I definitely think of it as one war, and I

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01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 5: think we had the pre sort of rumblings of it

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 5: even earlier in twenty twenty three, then October seventh, because

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Speaker 5: in spring of twenty twenty three, and maybe people don't remember,

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Speaker 5: Israel faced attacks from Gaza, Juday and Samaria or the

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Speaker 5: West Bank and Lebanon. All it was basically all during Passover,

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Speaker 5: and people were portraying it at the time as Ran

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,040
Speaker 5: trying to surround Israel with a ring of fire, and

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01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 5: so you could even say it started before that right,

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01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 5: but certainly the big attack was os Over seven. Then

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Speaker 5: I do think it's all related. Iran has been funding it.

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01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 5: These are all allies and proxies of Iran, and until

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01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 5: there's a new regime in Iran, I think Israel's going

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01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 5: to continue facing the Iranian threat, both the nuclear threat

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01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 5: and the proxy threat, and also the missile threat because

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01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 5: they will try to rebuild.

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