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Speaker 1: Life audio.

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Speaker 2: Today, I'll talk about that.

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Speaker 3: John forgets the lyrics to his own song and reveals

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Speaker 3: his earliest childhood memory. Meanwhile, I ponder very special episodes

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Speaker 3: of eighty sitcoms that dealt with heavy issues and tell

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Speaker 3: you the tale of the heroic birds who ruined Hitler's

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Speaker 3: Olympic Games in Berlin. Plus, we're joined by our good

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Speaker 3: friends singer songwriter Caleb Christopher Edwards to talk about his

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Speaker 3: brand new project, Who's Your Man? Volume two out now

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Speaker 3: wherever you find your music. Today's episode is not sponsored

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up ab out there?

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Speaker 4: I'm John with my friend Johnny and my other special

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Speaker 4: friend Caleb.

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Speaker 1: It's a very special episode. Johnny of talk about that.

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Speaker 2: When we were kids.

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Speaker 3: John, if you're younger than me, but do you remember

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Speaker 3: sitcoms would have.

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Speaker 2: Very special episodes. I don't know if that happens anymore.

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Speaker 3: Where you go all right, you know somebody's into drugs

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Speaker 3: on my favorite show, Yeah, they go the More you

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Speaker 3: Know or whatever, and it would be the famous one

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Speaker 3: on saved by the bell is when gosh, what was

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Speaker 3: her character's name, Kelly Jesse Jesse got into speed.

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Speaker 2: I think she was taking.

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Speaker 4: Caffeine, trying to lose weight or just trying to like

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Speaker 4: she was trying to study for tests or something.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so excited. I'm so excited, which is I'm

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Speaker 3: And then they hug it out, they get some kind

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Speaker 3: of caffeine treatment. I don't know what happens. I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: about I'm thinking about going off caffeine because I have

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Speaker 3: the taping coming up.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking about doing a cleanse.

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Speaker 1: Are you afraid it's going to affect your performance? I

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Speaker 1: just think i'd like to, Like, I think you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the wrong place.

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Speaker 3: I just want to do you think I need to

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Speaker 3: be more excited? You need some red Bull?

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Speaker 5: Have you tried cocaine?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not trying.

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Speaker 3: This is Caleb, by the way, everybody, I like, the

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Speaker 3: first word out of his mouth was cocaine.

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Speaker 2: Sheesh, he's a kidder, folks.

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Speaker 3: Nobody uses cocaine on the show or well, No, Caleb

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Speaker 3: is our longtime differend.

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Speaker 2: Caleb actually was on.

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Speaker 3: The show for one of our earlier episodes to promote

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Speaker 3: his record and kind of tell some of his story.

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Speaker 3: And now he has another record coming out. It just

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Speaker 3: dropped today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, actually he could.

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Speaker 2: Be one of the first people to listen. And what

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Speaker 2: is it called? Tell us a little bit about it.

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Speaker 5: So I I have released today. It's volume two of

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Speaker 5: a record called Who's Your Man and Not Who's Your Man?

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Speaker 5: Not Who's Your Man.

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Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, altogether Indiana Hoosiers exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Volume one came out in the spring, so this past March,

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Speaker 5: Volume two comes out today. Volume three comes out in

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Speaker 5: the fall. But it's uh, it's just a project that

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Speaker 5: I started probably five or six years ago. Now that

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Speaker 5: it's thirty tracks.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, some I said it's too many.

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Speaker 5: I can't argue with that it is too many.

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Speaker 3: And so in the gist of it, we've talked about

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's uh, I grew up in Southeastern Indiana, and

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Speaker 2: That's who I wrote.

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Speaker 3: You're trying to escape the thing that is the thing exactly,

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Speaker 3: I read a thing about that about how like our

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Speaker 5: I have heard something similar that when you think about

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Speaker 5: So I you know, what's your earliest memory.

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Speaker 3: My earliest memory we talked about on the pod I

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Speaker 3: It was I was four years old and we had

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Speaker 5: Oh that's a great one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that great, it's great.

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Speaker 5: What's yours.

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Speaker 4: Like a family party I was probably four. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: I can relate. Well. Check out Who's Your Man? Volume two,

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Speaker 2: Caleeb Christopher Edwards.

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Speaker 1: Hey, where do they go to get?

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Speaker 2: Where's the best place go?

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Speaker 5: Anywhere?

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Speaker 2: Where do you get the most money?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all on there. If you want to take

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Speaker 2: Caleb Christopher Edwards. Two. We're going to hear a song

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Speaker 1: Carol. What's the name of the song you're playing?

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Speaker 5: It's called Old Man Hunter?

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, this is Caleb Christopher Edwards.

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Speaker 7: Old Man Hunter was being pulled tall, his bald head

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Speaker 7: His laugh on the telephone, call a Mom and Dad

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Speaker 7: Man showed her all his blame. So I took her rock,

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Speaker 5: But old man hunters all the fear in our eyes,

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Speaker 2: Well, he hugged my mom.

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Speaker 5: She began to weep. She said, maybe tonight you'll finally

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Speaker 7: So I took her rock and I carved his name,

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Speaker 5: Amen, Amen, Amen.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful, Wow, it's amazing. Kel Christopher Edwards in Who's Your Man?

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Speaker 2: Volume two?

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Speaker 3: Check it out, get it on bank camp, get it

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Speaker 3: wherever you stream all your goodies.

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Speaker 2: But uh yeah, if you want to buy it, go there.

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Speaker 1: Go there, Yeah, check it out. You should buy it it, You.

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Speaker 2: Should buy it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you mean.

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Speaker 2: Music should be saying.

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Speaker 3: I know music we think of music now is something

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Speaker 2: Come on, y'all, let's uh yeah, let's spread some love

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Speaker 2: here today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: If we could stretch your hands towards the podcast, if

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Speaker 4: Man, thanks for sharing that. That's beautiful and man, no lyrics.

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Speaker 4: He just that's a lot of stuff too. That's odd, remember, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I know it.

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Speaker 3: When I met Stephen Curtis Chapman at the Opry a

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Speaker 3: most complicated wedding song. Yes, every chorus is different. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so you've got to remember the second I will be

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Speaker 1: An orphan adoption.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, And I sang that song at the church

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just just just butchered it.

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Speaker 5: knew him. I had him written out, and I'm like,

444
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Speaker 5: it's okay, I can do this. And I had folded

445
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 5: them and put him in my back pocket, and I

446
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 5: even was like, I'm so sorry. I really want to

447
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 5: do a good job. So I ran back into the

448
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 5: room I was practicing in to look for the lyrics

449
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 5: there in my pocket. They were in my pocket a

450
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Speaker 5: whole time.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, won't that though?

452
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: That's a song right there? Yeah. The answer every chorus is.

453
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Speaker 5: Every chorus is different.

454
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Speaker 6: Yeah, And man, I.

455
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Speaker 3: Still John and I were in a band together. You

456
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 3: may or may not know but we John had a

457
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Speaker 3: few moments where he blanked out. My favorite one ever

458
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: was and John wrote the song, and so he had

459
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Speaker 3: a song where it was It was called Search No

460
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Speaker 3: More and one of the one of the lyrics was

461
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Speaker 3: as my as I put my feet on the floor

462
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 3: that day, tired of running this race. Quietly, he spoke

463
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Speaker 3: to me, son, it's through my grace.

464
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: But he said, what did you say. I said, I

465
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Speaker 2: put my feet on the floor that day, tired to

466
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: run this race.

467
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Speaker 8: I don't know when you go, don't be afraid, my

468
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 8: baby boy, and I kind of looked over, like, soys

469
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Speaker 8: about to come.

470
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Speaker 2: We got off stage that night, I go, baby.

471
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Speaker 4: Boy, we've been in the studio all day and we

472
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 4: were doing some Thanksgiving event for cay Alpha, and yeah,

473
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Speaker 4: I just blanked.

474
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: I just was like, but I made up something.

475
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

476
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 4: Remind it reminds me a little bit of of that

477
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 4: episode of Friends where Ross tries to kiss his cousin,

478
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 4: you know, and he can only hear his inner thoughts

479
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: and she's just staring at him, and he's like, I

480
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 4: can't say what he says because it's a family show.

481
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 1: But he's like say something anything, anything.

482
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 4: It's like this long and then he says something and

483
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: he was like, you shouldn't have said that.

484
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 2: Oh no, you made it worse yet. Even God was like,

485
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 2: baby boy, yeah, call you.

486
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 5: That sounds like that sounds like a story someone would

487
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 5: tell about Bob Dylan somebody where he's just making up

488
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 5: words on the spot. Don't don't think twice, baby boy.

489
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Oh that's good. It's good. Good, it's good.

490
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: He gets credit for it. Oh man, well sharing, Yeah,

491
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: it's beautiful.

492
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

493
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: Hey, we're gonna jump into my segment and.

494
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: Stay aboard and be a third voice in the help here.

495
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: It's the quote of the week, we call it.

496
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Speaker 1: They talked about that.

497
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 5: Regal.

498
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very regal.

499
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go.

500
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Speaker 1: We have a friend here who's a writer, Clive Staples today.

501
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: Clive Staples Lewis. Yeah, it's gonna be somebody if he

502
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 3: just stays with it.

503
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: And it's about writing.

504
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Speaker 2: I like that.

505
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Speaker 4: He says, Uh, of a book's meaning, its author is

506
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: not necessarily the best and is never a perfect judge.

507
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 4: One of his intentions usually was that it should have

508
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 4: a certain meaning. He cannot be sure that it has.

509
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 4: He cannot even be sure that the meaning he intended

510
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 4: it to have was in every way or even at all,

511
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 4: better than the meaning which readers find in it.

512
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so kind of we talked about that a

513
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Speaker 1: little bit already, but that you know, you have. My

514
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: agent would.

515
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 4: Always say to me and I when I kind of

516
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 4: consult with authors when we're writing, always remind them you

517
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 4: never write to a plural audience. Yeah, you never say,

518
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: you know, you guys might You're always and he would say, Look,

519
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: you're having a one on one conversation with someone, they're

520
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 4: on a plane, they're in a coffee shop and you're

521
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 4: talking to just them and they're not here. You know,

522
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 4: to remember you're writing to one and that idea. I

523
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 4: find this Ensermons a lot that somebody will come up

524
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 4: and say something to me about what you know, obviously

525
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 4: the spirit started within them from whenever we were talking

526
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 4: about out that day, and I'm just like, yeah, I

527
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: didn't that's awesome.

528
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: I had no.

529
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 4: I didn't set out for that to be what, you know,

530
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 4: what came. I'm just I thought it was an interesting

531
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 4: thing to reflect on because I think that's why it's

532
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 4: important that we write. Yeah, right, I think because we

533
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 4: don't get to choose what people take from the things

534
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 4: that we do, and there's a there's a I don't

535
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: mean to over spiritualize it, but my life has always

536
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 4: been a calling to write.

537
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: Like it was very clear to me.

538
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: It was.

539
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: Originally I thought music, not that I still don't do

540
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 4: some of that, but that's not at all. I think

541
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 4: where the gift of those things really lies. I was

542
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: just sort of where I kind of cut my teeth

543
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: on things. But it is a compulsion almost of like

544
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 4: I know I'm supposed to do this, and the opportunities,

545
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 4: you know, are usually there, sometimes they're not. And sometimes

546
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 4: the most fun writing is the one you're not sure

547
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: anyone's gonna read right because of there's a security to us.

548
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 4: But it is important if someone ever does read it right,

549
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 4: that you're putting something out there. Yeah, And I told

550
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: I told Reggie Dabs when we finished. It's the first

551
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: book ever wrote.

552
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: On that was published.

553
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 4: And it hit me because we told his whole life story,

554
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 4: and I don't know why it hit me so hard.

555
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 4: Then I said, Reggie, someday because he speaks to millions

556
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 4: of people, but he won't forever. I was like, but

557
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: someday when you die, your your story. You're going to

558
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 4: still be speaking now, right, and people are gonna have

559
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: they're going to interact with that story in a way.

560
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't ever.

561
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Speaker 4: Mind if I find one of my books, you know,

562
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 4: in a good will or something like, I'm curious where

563
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 4: it traveled, right, I'm curious. I don't want it sitting

564
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: on someone's shelf in their house, you know, I'd rather

565
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 4: go somewhere because who knows who read the next one?

566
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Speaker 2: It is the Yeah, the dust Spin of History.

567
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: John Aaron Webber, my buddy could great me to Aaron Webber,

568
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: I think he has a bit about finding a number

569
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 3: one dad mug in a good will and he's like, that's.

570
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: Just sad already. He goes the best case scenario, he's dead.

571
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: Worst case you're.

572
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: Like, no number one anymore anymore. He's still alive, and

573
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: you're like, take it from him.

574
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 5: I have found so the band that I joined when

575
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 5: I first moved here. It is kind of the reason

576
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 5: why I moved here. I have found the record I

577
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 5: did with them at McKay's.

578
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Yeah, it's a weird moment.

579
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 5: I kind of kind was pumped, like I finally made

580
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 5: it I'm in McKay's and I had.

581
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 4: A friend who is a plumber and he was doing

582
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: some work for us and we have mutual friend my neighbors.

583
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: He introduced me and he was one of the weirdest things.

584
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 4: He We were talking one day and he's like, dude,

585
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 4: we went to mcay's.

586
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 6: We took our kids.

587
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: Was the first time, so let him go buy books

588
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: and stuff.

589
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 4: Because I bought about ten books and I got home

590
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 4: and one of them was not so black and white.

591
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: Aha.

592
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 4: He's like, wait a second, Like he had literally went

593
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: and bought a book and it had me as one

594
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: of the co authors on it.

595
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: He was like, I couldn't. I was like, well, that's

596
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: that's rare. Yeh.

597
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fun to me.

598
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: The CS Lewis thing is I think about especially in

599
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: pop culture now, you see it every election year, which

600
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: feels like it never ends. Now election cycles never end

601
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 3: because we're always always campaigning for the next thing. But

602
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: like they'll use like Born in the USA, Yeah, having

603
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: no clue that it's like a protest song. It's like

604
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: or you'll see like Fortunate Son. You're like, oh, you

605
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: guys are the fortunate Son.

606
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 4: Magnate Son was playing one day on it. It was

607
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: a had Brett farb As an old commercial. It was

608
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 4: it was a Wrangler or something, a Wrangler commercial or something,

609
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 4: and it was around the fourth of July, and they

610
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 4: just use the ooh, the red, white and blue, and

611
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: they just they take the rest of the song out.

612
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: That wasn't celebrated.

613
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: The fourth of the.

614
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: Next line, yeah, don't rhyme it. Yeah, yeah, no, it

615
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 3: is wild. But that's the things like you sometimes. I

616
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: there was a great show via twenty two called Storytellers,

617
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 3: and bands would talk about their records and their songs,

618
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: and then they would have to talk about that what

619
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: you're just talking about where a song or a piece

620
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: of art, a writing is not just a monologue. It's

621
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: a dialogue, and their reaction to it is part of

622
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: the conversation and you have to live with that. And

623
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: it was Pearl Jam after the ten record, which had

624
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: like five number ones on it or something, and the

625
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: song Alive became like what they were known for. But

626
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 3: Alive is a very dark song about like a childhood trauma.

627
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: I think the story I heard about it, I'm going

628
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 3: to get it wrong. But he didn't talk about this

629
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 3: in Storytellers but I think what I heard was because

630
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: it says what you thought was your daddy was nothing,

631
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: and then while you were sitting home alone at age thirteen,

632
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: your real daddy was dying. Like I think he found

633
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: out that the person who had raised him was not

634
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 3: his dad, and it was too late to go find

635
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: his real dad, who had died of MS. So that's

636
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: the song, and then the chorus is, but I'm still alive,

637
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: I'm still alive, and it's like almost like this chant

638
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: of like I don't want to be alive, but he goes,

639
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 3: he goes.

640
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 2: There was a curse over that song. We would play it,

641
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: but it felt We knew it.

642
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: Was a heavy song, but you guys over the years

643
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: made it this celebration of life and you would sing

644
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: differently and it bothered us at first, and when we

645
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: finally embraced it, it broke the curse. You changed the

646
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: meaning of the song and it broke the curse. Like

647
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 3: Eddie Vedder was saying this, it was really emotional.

648
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

649
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: I think there's something to that, like letting, because we

650
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: used to have songs we wrote and we would meet

651
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 3: people in somewhere out and we'd done our third record

652
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,959
Speaker 3: by then, and they'd go, I love this song from

653
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 3: your friend. You go, ooh, don't like that. You would

654
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: be mad at them for liking earlier work.

655
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: And you go, it's a dialogue. Let them like it.

656
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: What are you yucking their young for? Yeah?

657
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had. This just happened last week. I was

658
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: up in Michigan and I did this. I did like

659
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: a ten day run and I started in South Carolina

660
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 5: and it ended up in the Upper Peninsula, and so

661
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 5: just the audiences were just very, very different from each other.

662
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 5: They're further north I got. But the very last show

663
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: was in this Episcopal church. And I have this song

664
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Speaker 5: that's on volume one called My Best Friends, and it's

665
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Speaker 5: about my grandma and grandpa. I grew up right around

666
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 5: the corner from them, and talking about just hanging out

667
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 5: with my grandpa, like planting trees, it's something that we

668
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 5: used to do, and sort of making a little joke

669
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 5: about how my grandma can't hear anything.

670
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

671
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: This I noticed this woman in the front row who

672
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: was probably maybe in her seventies, just weeping, and I'm like, oh, okay,

673
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 5: that's not quite the reaction I was. I mean, I'm anticipating,

674
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 5: and I saw another woman, who I found out later

675
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 5: was her daughter, get up and just like give her

676
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 5: a hug. And I thought, oh, maybe this is like

677
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 5: a mother daughter thing, because this time, or the chorus

678
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: goes our times getting short, and time's getting quick, like

679
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 5: the end of a candlewick and I'm still scared of

680
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: the dark is the chorus. And I found out later

681
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: this woman came up to me and said that she goes,

682
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 5: I love How did she say it? I love the

683
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 5: song you wrote about your spouse. And she said, I

684
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 5: just lost my husband like two months ago, and so

685
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: she thought when she heard and I'll live there till

686
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 5: I die with my best friends, she immediately thought of

687
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 5: her husband. And I'm like, yeah, you're right, I have

688
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 5: I'm not going to tell you what the song means, actually,

689
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 5: but I've realized that being very specific in work like that.

690
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 5: You know, I'm from a little four way stop in

691
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: Franklin County, Indiana called Buena Vista. None of us speak Spanish,

692
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 5: we call it Beauny. It's ridiculous. That's it's the most

693
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 5: specific thing that I could think of. And I have

694
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 5: people that'll that will write me from all over the

695
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: world now and say like I love and they write

696
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 5: it out phonetically the UNI, which is hilarious. But like

697
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 5: I've realized, the more specific you are in your writing,

698
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: in your work, the more universal it becomes because people

699
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 5: are just natural storytellers and whatever details you give them,

700
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 5: they're just going to flip it and make it their own.

701
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. And they plug in their own they plug in

702
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: their own beauty. Yeah. Yeah.

703
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 3: Even if you just yeah, if you might live in

704
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: New York and now you know that your corner store

705
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: might be there, bodega or whatever it is, they can

706
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: pull from it.

707
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: There's always work.

708
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 3: I think that's what's cool about like the Heartland music

709
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: is like, even if you didn't grow up there, there's

710
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: so many cool morals and lessons and things, and there's

711
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: just not there's.

712
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: Not a lot of art that's like that.

713
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

714
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: But I think that's one thing about folk music that

715
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 5: has drawn me to it because that's what I grew

716
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 5: up playing. I grew up around that, and so it's

717
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 5: the that music is so story driven. Yeah, And I

718
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: think it's why it's it's drawn me to play to

719
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 5: write writing faith based music too, because to me, when

720
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 5: I say this to people, they kind of give me

721
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 5: a weird look. But to me, the gospel is like

722
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 5: the ultimate folk story.

723
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's folklore. Yeah, and the best way.

724
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 5: And to quote Lewis he was he would say, like

725
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: it is, it's the most truest story of all the myths.

726
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 5: And I think, to me, like Christian music whatever that means,

727
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 5: like faith based music, the gospel and folk music just

728
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 5: like go hand in hand like that.

729
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: There was a thing there was to do a network

730
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: when I was a kid called the AX Network. I

731
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: don't know what it became. Did it was it an

732
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: Was it a precursor to TVN Remember Acts Network?

733
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: Remember this?

734
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: It was like one of the early Christian networks. Anyway,

735
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: they would do these original programming. There was this one

736
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: play that they did a live presentation of I.

737
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: Know it toured as well. It was called Cotton Patch Gospel.

738
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of it? And it literally is

739
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: the Gospel as a folk tale. It's like if Jesus

740
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: was born in the Deep South in the cixies.

741
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 5: Oh wow.

742
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: And so.

743
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: There's a lot of it and it reminded me a

744
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: little bit when I saw, oh brother, we're out there

745
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 3: for the for the first time. It reminded me a

746
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: little bit of that, the baptism scene and all that,

747
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,760
Speaker 3: because when he chooses, like Judas.

748
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: Is Jude, yeah and uh.

749
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: And but like Jesus gets lynched in it, he doesn't.

750
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: It doesn't get crucid. He gets lynched.

751
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 6: Wow.

752
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of it.

753
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: And they because they form a bluegrass band, so he

754
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: picks his band, so when he picks his disciples that

755
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 3: this was like the eighties when I saw this, But

756
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: I think Jesus it's it's like a detelling of j

757
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: he came to the Wow. I need to revisit it myself.

758
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: But it's called Cotton Patch Gospel. And of course back then,

759
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: who knows, it probably offended as many people as it sure, because.

760
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: Everybody's this is a heretical version of the whatever.

761
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know, man, I think, like you said,

762
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 3: there's a lot of ways to like, if you put

763
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: yourself in the story, you're always gonna it's any more.

764
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: Can you can you can have more connection to it?

765
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

766
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 5: Well, oh, brother art they all that's actually retelling.

767
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: Of the Odyssey, right right?

768
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so everyone has been asking me like, has

769
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 5: this been your favorite, like the Odyssey adaptation. I'm like, no,

770
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: that came out, yeah with George Quinney, and then Ralph

771
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 5: Stanley is singing O Death twenty some years ago.

772
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that was such a great film. Yeah yeah, yeah,

773
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: that's so cool.

774
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: All right, well let's see my segments. This wrap up

775
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: the show with mine. Let's start with old jokes.

776
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: We call it joke about that.

777
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: Boys, there's only one group of people stupid enough to

778
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: believe in astrology scorpios. A man, sorry, a man walks

779
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: into a bar and shouts free beers outside, So everyone

780
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: in the bar except the bartender, ran outside in excitement.

781
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 3: The bartender, visibly angry, yells at the man, what did

782
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: you do that?

783
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: For?

784
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 3: Now I have no customers? The man says, sorry, mister,

785
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: honestly didn't think of those men would be brave enough

786
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 3: to fight a grizzly beer, let alone free of them? John,

787
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: Did you know the Sylvester Stallone is on his third marriage?

788
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: WHOA That means his first one was rocky and I

789
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 3: guess the second one was rocky too. Oh no, oh no,

790
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: come on, y'all. This thing on a cruise ship passes

791
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: by a remote island, boys, and all the passengers see

792
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: a bearded man running around and waving his arms wildly.

793
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: Captain one passenger as, who's that man over there? I

794
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: have no idea, The captain says, he goes nuts every.

795
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: Year when we pass it.

796
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: That's good, all right, let's close up with this week

797
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: in history, boys, we call it talk about then.

798
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: Boys.

799
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 3: This week nineteen thirty six, during the opening ceremonies of

800
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: the nineteen thirty six Olympics, also known as Hitler's Games

801
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 3: YEP in Berlin, thousands of pigeons were released, and when

802
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: a ceremonial cannon was fired, it's tartled the pigeons, causing

803
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 3: them to poop on.

804
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: All the spectators below. The pigeons let themselves, they etched

805
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: their hey, their marking.

806
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: History and getting shot at with a cannon.

807
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 3: I just think it's great that like a bunch of

808
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: white supremacists on the ground getting pooped on.

809
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: But I guess there were like good people.

810
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 3: Down there too, But it's just cool that hits like,

811
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: look what I have made for you, and then just

812
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: a rain of poop.

813
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 5: That sounds like a best case scenario.

814
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, pretty good.

815
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 3: This week nineteen eighty one, A little Channel, the first

816
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 3: twenty four hour.

817
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Music Channel debut MTV.

818
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: Would anybody like take a guess at what the first

819
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: video they played was you this little piece of history?

820
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: What year? How old are you?

821
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: I'm thirty two, Kaleb, just a baby?

822
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you don't remember when MTV was like like

823
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: a really huge seminar part of our lives.

824
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 2: Do you remember when it was like the reality shows

825
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: were on it and stuff?

826
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

827
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: I remember the.

828
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 3: VMA's probably, but yeah, VMA's, but not music videos being

829
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: played all day every day.

830
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 5: No, I remember CMT did that, yeah, like twenty years ago.

831
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. The first video was called Video Killed the Radio

832
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 2: Star by the Buggles.

833
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: She was a little bit prophetic. Yeah, yeah, it press.

834
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: It proved to be Yeah, it proved to be true.

835
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: And and they were kind of an odd looking new

836
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: wave ban too, so they were kind of like, yeah,

837
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: they said, we're not long for this world either.

838
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

839
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: And then high deaf cameras came and ruined a lot

840
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: of movie careers too. There's like a whole story about

841
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: that about like actors and actresses who are like, oh,

842
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: we're gonna see that many pores in my face. I

843
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: wanna go ahead and call it a night, and they

844
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: like quit acting.

845
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets there, like these cameras are too good now, yeah, yeah,

846
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: tix cameras.

847
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too good.

848
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: This week, nineteen sixty eight, Peanuts creators Charles M. Schultz

849
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: introduced the first black character.

850
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: On his comic strip.

851
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: Franklin school teacher Harriet Glickman had written to Schultz shortly

852
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 3: after the assassination of Martin Luther King Junior, urging him

853
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: to introduce a black character into Peanuts. Schultz met opposition

854
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: to the idea from Southern editors who did not want

855
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 3: Franklin attending school or going to the homes.

856
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: Of white children. Isn't that crazy?

857
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: This is in nineteen sixty eight, Schultz told the president

858
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: of the strips distributor, Well, Larry, let's put it this way.

859
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: Either you print it just the way I draw it,

860
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: or I quit. How's that go, Charles Schultz?

861
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Come on, Schultz, Juke.

862
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: Says it took actual bravery to do these things. It's

863
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 3: pretty cool. Yeah, love it. Let's see, let me see

864
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: one more. Finally, the first manned flight to land on

865
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: the Moon was this week nineteen sixteen eight. If you

866
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: believe in that sort of thing we do, we're pretty

867
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 3: pro science. Here talk about that Apollo eleven is launched

868
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: landing on the Moon four days later. Neil Armstrong became

869
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: the first person to step on the lunar surface six

870
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: hours after landing on July twenty first, with Buzz Aldron

871
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: famously following him shortly thereafter. Aldron would later joke a

872
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: many talk shows, I think I've seen a clip or

873
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: two of this that while Armstrong was the first man

874
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: to walk on the Moon, he was the first to

875
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: pee his pants on the Moon, so Buzz gets that distinction.

876
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: They also left behind a laser reflector, which was used

877
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: to prove that the Moon was one hundred and thirty

878
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 3: one point.

879
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: Two feet farther away than previously believed.

880
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: Have we already shared this information.

881
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: We did it on the episode that we didn't air,

882
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Speaker 3: So you are looking at me very puzzled. But this

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Speaker 3: is the one that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sorry, we tried one, guys. I know it's

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00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: been two weeks, but the audience tryout here Johnny was

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Speaker 4: remote and it was oddly enough, it was not mine

887
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: my internet in the here in the office that messed.

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00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: Up the high speed. I was on Hotel Hampton in

889
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Speaker 2: internet and I was I.

890
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: Was blazing anyway, so I knew, I know, I know this.

891
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 1: Maybe I dreamed it.

892
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

893
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: Could his pants that's a weird tru And.

894
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: Then I have it every night. I will go and

895
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: then I peed my pants.

896
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 5: And then on the flight home he pooped on a Nazi.

897
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: That's isn't that crazy?

898
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 3: That's that's what we'll tell our kids, I said, every

899
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 3: time we touch the memory, we change it exactly.

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00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: Our kids getting pretty sure buzz up at the Hitler games.

901
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Listen.

902
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: I'm no expert, but I know was I've heard it

903
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: on the podcast.

904
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: That's disinformation. That's it's okay, is it?

905
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: Missinver? Disinver? What is the difference? Is one with malice?

906
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: Misinformation might be a mistake. Disinformation is just like I'm

907
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: a it's a propaganda campaign against truth.

908
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

909
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: We need to figure that out because a lot off's

910
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: going on. You know.

911
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes there's two words. There's anti Christian and there's Unchristian. Okay,

912
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 4: ty biblical or unbiblical? You know, So yeah, maybe that's

913
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: the difference, is right.

914
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: I think I've been both from time to time, and

915
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm trying to I called you both here.

916
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: Because I want to use it on.

917
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well I know which one I am.

918
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say.

919
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: If you come back next week. Yeah, for Who's Your Man?

920
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: Part three? That's the whole record is just about revealing that. Yeah. Well,

921
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: it's been an honor having with you.

922
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: And man, it's been it's been great. We need more guests,

923
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, uh and uh, we don't do it enough.

924
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: It's because nobody is quite as interesting as us in

925
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: our own minds.

926
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: You know.

927
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 4: Sometimes the guest episodes go well and sometimes they don't.

928
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 4: And this one went, well, oh good.

929
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: That's our show.

930
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Speaker 1: You're out.

931
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we got what we need to let

932
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: it your part out now. It's great. Check out Who's

933
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: Your Man?

934
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: Ve two wherever you get your fine recordings and uh

935
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: and also Caleb Chris F.

936
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: Edwards also has a great blog that I subscribe to.

937
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 2: I'm a patron.

938
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: You can become a patron of our show talk about

939
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 3: that podcast dot com. We love our supporters. Go there,

940
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: click on the link that says support the show. You

941
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: get ad free content.

942
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. But also go to uh is it

943
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Speaker 2: like a substack? What is it?

944
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Speaker 5: It is a subtext?

945
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Speaker 3: Go to my monthly musings. Please look that up my

946
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Speaker 3: Monthly Musings Caleb Chris F.

947
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Speaker 2: Edwards. I follow it.

948
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 3: I've been following it for years. Amazing posts and just

949
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 3: great writings. And I think you said you put like

950
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 3: a little book together of some of these.

951
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Speaker 2: I put a book.

952
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Speaker 5: Together of some short stories about growing up in Indiana.

953
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Speaker 2: Oh that's why.

954
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Speaker 5: I think a few of those I have published.

955
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just love it. I always get something out

956
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: of it. It's one of my favorite things to read.

957
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: You And so Caleb is one of the best writers

958
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: I know. And I'm not I'm just.

959
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 4: Telling you makes you mad.

960
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: I get mad every time.

961
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: Like this guy, Well he just did this like a

962
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: pigeon over a stadium.

963
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, some of us are out here. Yeah, he's here,

964
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: sticks together and he's just flying sory. So you really

965
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: are just taking dumps.

966
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: That's all we're doing out here. That's that's a great

967
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 2: way in the show.

968
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: Of course, of course check out Johnny w j O

969
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Speaker 4: n n i EW dot com as well, because guys,

970
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 4: he's everywhere, and he's been.

971
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,439
Speaker 3: Everywhere, and I'm going everywhere. The big one that's coming

972
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: up is that we're doing a taping. We've booked shows

973
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: in my hometown the Biju Theater, Knoxville, Tennessee. We sold

974
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 3: out the seven pm who We're selling a matinee show

975
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: now because we're going to film a new comedy project there.

976
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: So if you want to be a.

977
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 3: Part of that, get your weird laugh on tape, get

978
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: those tickets now. And I just released a ten dollars

979
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 3: off coupon code today. You go to the ticketmaster link

980
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: on my website JOHNNYW dot com, and then you click

981
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: on the thing that says add or unlock code or

982
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Speaker 3: something like that, and then you enter the word local,

983
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Speaker 3: all capped local.

984
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: And you get ten dollars off tickets because.

985
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: I want to fill the room because we're trying to film.

986
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: We're trying to get two cracks at the taping and

987
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 3: at the shooting.

988
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Speaker 1: That show is August the.

989
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: August twenty nine, ninth, Knoxville, Tennessee.

990
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: So if you're anywhere near the area, if you want

991
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: to drive in, if your bucket list item was for

992
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 3: some dumb reason to come see my show, this wild,

993
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Speaker 3: biggest one, you don't want to miss it.

994
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you could be a part of posterity.

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00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole thing.

996
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: If someone's gonna find this in a mackay someday your laughter.

997
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, could be.

998
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: Or it could be that we hate both shows and

999
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: I bury it because I'll own it because I'm paying

1000
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: for this.

1001
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: So I could be like, well, this isn't coming.

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Speaker 1: A weird laugh just he's not letting it through. Johnny's

1003
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Speaker 1: very particular.

1004
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will let it you out. Yea.

1005
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 3: We will use We'll find some weird AI thing. I

1006
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: don't love AI, but I'll use it to edit your

1007
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: laugh out. If you've ruined my show, that will not pass.

1008
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: Don't run his show.

1009
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 6: I don't know why you're.

1010
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 2: Going to release I was going to release some birds

1011
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:32,720
Speaker 2: at some point.

1012
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and shut off a cannon.

1013
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm talking to Caleb about perhaps doing an unhappy

1014
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: Camper with me adding a little mandolin, little harmful high harmony.

1015
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see what.

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00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 5: I cannot laugh though.

1017
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: I told you he's got to you know, you got

1018
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: to sell it. Yeah, which he played with the Clever

1019
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: Leads for a long time and so he knows what

1020
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: he's doing.

1021
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: I was on Johnny's first comedy special, John's Yeah. I

1022
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 4: don't like to I don't like to brag, but.

1023
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Speaker 2: John had some screen time.

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Speaker 4: I kind of I had two words, and uh yeah

1025
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: they were funny, but we still a lot.

1026
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: You sold it though, if you smirked. Did you smirk?

1027
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Speaker 6: I don't think so.

1028
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: Maybe how many cameras did you have because I wasn't

1029
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: trying to smirk. Yeah, that's just my face.

1030
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 2: It's poor.

1031
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's true. If you do. John's retired now. Yeah,

1032
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 3: it's a bummer.

1033
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 2: Really, it's uh yeah, take a look.

1034
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: I gotta I got a real face for podcasting though.

1035
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: So anyway, hey guys, thanks so much of the time you

1036
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: get to day Kale.

1037
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Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. Is a lot of fun. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it again next week here on talk about

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Speaker 1: that