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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Dwell On These Things podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm John Stogey and it's great to have you with

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Speaker 2: us this week as always, because this week we have

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Speaker 2: a guest that many of you have asked for us

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Speaker 2: to have on for quite some time, and so I'm

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Speaker 2: really grateful to be able to have him with us. Now,

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Speaker 2: you probably already saw from the title of this episode

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Speaker 2: who we have on as a guest, but I'll give

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Speaker 2: a little lead up here in case you didn't look.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is someone whose voice has shaped the soundtrack

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Speaker 2: of Christian rock for more than four decades, which is amazing.

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Speaker 2: You probably know him, John Schlitt. He's our guest is

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Speaker 2: the lead singer of Petra, and it's this would be

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Speaker 2: an understatement, but I'll say it anyway. Petra is one

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Speaker 2: of the most influential Christian bands of all time and

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Speaker 2: one of the cool things about having him on here

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Speaker 2: as a guest, and I know he could testify to

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Speaker 2: this himself, but John's story is much bigger than albums

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Speaker 2: that have topped charts, and they've certainly chopped charts with

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Speaker 2: Petra's music, even with his solo music. But there's more

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Speaker 2: to that. There's more to sold out concerts, and I've

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Speaker 2: seen Petra and concert personally multiple times. But his story

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Speaker 2: is a story of redemption. His story is a story

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Speaker 2: of calling and discovering that God has a purpose for

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Speaker 2: every season of your life. So, as somebody who has

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Speaker 2: personally been listening to Petra's music for quite some time,

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Speaker 2: I am extremely excited to welcome to the podcast, John Schlitz, John,

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, John. Wow, what a what a nice thing

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Speaker 3: to say. Okay, how can I live up to that.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to try my best.

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Speaker 2: I try my best well, I meant every word of it.

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Speaker 2: It's really exciting to have you here. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I'll even mention this before we even dig into some

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Speaker 2: of the things that I've already planned to ask you.

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Speaker 2: I've been preaching on Sunday mornings at our church through

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Speaker 2: the Book of Revelation, and a week and a half

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Speaker 2: ago our worship team messaged me and they said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we'd like to sing this song Salvation Belongs to our

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: And I said, Oh, that's great, and not only is

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Speaker 2: it right, but John Schlitt, who sings that song, is

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Speaker 2: coming on the podcast later this week, and they were

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Speaker 2: excited about that.

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Speaker 1: So we're singing your music in church.

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Speaker 3: Pray Scott. You know, I'll be honest. We our music

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Speaker 3: was really never designed to necessarily be played in church

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Speaker 3: all the time, right, the Petra, Praise one and two,

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Speaker 3: and even Revival, those are praise and worship albums, but

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Speaker 3: even those we knew were being we're sort of on

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Speaker 3: cutting edge, and church has always been a little fearful

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Speaker 3: of of us. We always seem to be a little

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Speaker 3: they They have been supportive of us, finally praise God,

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Speaker 3: but always just you had to be on the edge

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Speaker 1: So you're saying our church is a little bit on

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Speaker 3: I think it's fantastic. You think church that plays Petra

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Speaker 1: We're on the edge, yeah, I I was pretty excited

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Speaker 2: Well, well, John, I have a whole series of questions

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Speaker 2: with this on social media. I'd love to get your perspective,

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Speaker 2: and I thought it might be fun to kind of

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Speaker 2: start at the beginning of this musical journey that you've

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Speaker 2: been on for decades. You've been ministering to people in

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Speaker 2: a variety of ways, and so when you look when

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Speaker 2: and you went from Head East and then serving with Petra.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if you could just elaborate on what was

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Speaker 3: Oh, I had no intentions of that when I got

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Speaker 3: First of all, I was thirty five or thirty between

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Speaker 3: So to me, I was done with music. Wouldn't listen

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Speaker 3: But I was doing my best effort to find out

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Speaker 3: God's plan. And all of a sudden, now the blue,

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Speaker 3: I knew exactly, I see God, I see what you

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Speaker 3: And the minute he said that, I said, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: You're giving me a second chance. Thank you God, thank

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Speaker 3: And it's never disappointed me. I mean I went with

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: That kind of reminds me of some of the stories

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Speaker 2: of the patriarchs in the Book of Genesis. You see

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Speaker 2: them go on these journeys where for a while they

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Speaker 2: this mission that he's opening up. But he wants their

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Speaker 3: Amen. Well, God, I feel like God used twelve years

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Speaker 1: Not in that order, I'll be honest, not in that order, right.

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Speaker 3: Because as a Christian artist, you are under you are

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Speaker 3: under the microscope twenty four hours a day and should be.

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Speaker 3: If you're calling yourself a Christian, you better be a

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Speaker 3: That's why the blood of Christ was shed for me,

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Speaker 3: as it was shed for all of us.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Love that, Well, it's wonderful to hear that. That's something

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Speaker 2: that you've always taken seriously, that platform that the Lord

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Speaker 2: put you and the band on, knowing that that's obviously

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Speaker 2: it's truly influenced a generation of believers. I know when

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Speaker 2: so you've had influence. You've had influence on people listening.

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Speaker 2: You've also had influence on a generation of you know,

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Bob Hartman's writing, he is absolutely

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Speaker 3: He's also a major rocker and I mean, uh serious,

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Speaker 3: And so what you have with Petra is an amazing band,

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Speaker 3: always been an amazing band. Music and writing that is

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Speaker 3: And just the sincerity of the musicians that wanted to

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Speaker 3: We know that we are Actually it's funny we were

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Speaker 3: but rock, any music style, is very powerful. And you

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Speaker 3: which is exactly how the enemy's been doing it for

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Speaker 3: so long. Ye enemy has his philosophy, Christ has his,

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Speaker 3: so what you do with it, and Petra's always tried

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Speaker 3: to do that through the countless records. I have lost

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Speaker 3: What's the most important thing, the message. What's the second

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Speaker 3: was make it entertaining, make it top notch to compete

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is top notch music.

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Speaker 2: And one of the beauties of it is, even the

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Speaker 2: older stuff, it stands the test of time. I listened

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I appreciate that testimony because that's one of

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Speaker 3: You mean, which kiss do I love more? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: my gosh, this is amazing, which we're very excited about.

437
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Speaker 3: I would love to see it get airplay in the

438
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 3: in the Christian music industry. I I I don't know

439
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 3: if that will happen, but it's there for people that

440
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: want to be part of the Petrick experience of the day.

441
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 3: Realizing that that we've been part of the life through

442
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 3: the through the years.

443
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, that's the first thing.

444
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 3: There's a moo. There's a movie coming out, Beyond Belief,

445
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: movie that has been talked about forever. I don't know

446
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: when it's ever come out. But it's really nice that

447
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: they want us. They're they're using all the Petrick music

448
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: in it. Uh and uh Bob and I are are

449
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 3: guest performers for it. We're we're actors in it. And

450
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 3: it's sort of a comical part, but that's cool. And

451
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: then there's a documentary coming out, a Petro documentary that

452
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 3: I just saw yesterday. It's finally finished. That's really interesting.

453
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 3: I really like it.

454
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Speaker 1: I can't wait.

455
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Speaker 3: Uh So, and as you said, the tour and now

456
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: the tour will be as big as the interest is there.

457
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: It's an old white tour. We're not going to push

458
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 3: it that much. It's not like we have to do it.

459
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 3: But if there's interest to come out and hear the

460
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 3: new music and here here the fifties odd years of

461
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: Petra's music and enjoy that evening with us, we're excited

462
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: about it. If not, it's cool, you know, it's seriously,

463
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: it's not. We're just being.

464
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: Available, right, which is you know, one of your songs,

465
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Speaker 2: So that's that's certainly live out the music, right, be available,

466
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: let the Lord use you as he chooses to do.

467
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Speaker 1: So.

468
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: It was funny when we first decide to do the record.

469
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: It took us a year because we had five bosses,

470
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: no producer, just us. I had four bosses that told

471
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 3: me how to sing. It got old for a long time,

472
00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: but it really I mean when it was finally fit

473
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: and I was very happy with it. And I'm serious.

474
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: I think I sing every song at least four or.

475
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: Five times, okay, which is not what I.

476
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: Normally do, so uh, but I think we we wanted

477
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: to make sure that if this is this is the

478
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 3: last album, that it was a quality that measured up

479
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: to all the others.

480
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I've heard the new song. It's great.

481
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: Uh.

482
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Speaker 2: And I also think that this is kind of one

483
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: of those eras you talk about labels and things like that,

484
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: things have changed. It's I feel like in many respects

485
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: we're our own media brands, you know what I mean.

486
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 2: Like if you're if the Lord has a calling on

487
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 2: your life, you have the opportunity. I often think what

488
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: the apostle Paul would do if he lived right now,

489
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: and I think he would harness the internet.

490
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: I think he'd make use of these things.

491
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: And uh, and just share the message of the gospel

492
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: wherever the door's opened.

493
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: Exactly, And that's exactly what we're doing. We're not trying,

494
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: you know, we realize that the boundaries that but see,

495
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 3: we're used to boundar. We're used to the boundaries of

496
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: the secular world.

497
00:26:59,359 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: Right.

498
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: Eight keepers would shut the door on us so quick.

499
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: It's but that was okay, that was an honor test. Yeah,

500
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 3: many several times we were right on the verge of

501
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: getting a secular hit. And I'm telling you that you'd

502
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 3: be surprised how dominant there is as far as secular

503
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 3: doorkeepers and anything that even smells of Christian. It's like,

504
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 3: oh no, no, we're not, and we're pretty synonymous for

505
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 3: being Christian. And so it was I didn't think it

506
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: would ever be coming from that world. I knew and

507
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: I was okay with it. And now it's like several

508
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: other doorkeepers are shutting the door on us now for

509
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: Age for Rock again, and and that's okay because we're

510
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: not playing for them. We're providing music for the people

511
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: that are interested in our style, have grown up with

512
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: us and want to hear more. And I'll tell you

513
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 3: what for the for the young that are looking for

514
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: that new sound, which is fun, We're a new sound now.

515
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: So uh, but the message has never changed, and if

516
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 3: the music draws of him, Praise God. We've got a

517
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: message for him that will change lives.

518
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: Love it, Love it.

519
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 2: Do you have any just behind the scenes moments you

520
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: know from your time with the band that you know

521
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 2: maybe those of us that have been watching and observing

522
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: and appreciating your artistry from the outside, maybe we haven't heard,

523
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: but something that you would say, this really captures the

524
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: heart of the band. But you wouldn't see it if

525
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 2: I didn't tell you about it.

526
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: Oh man, there's so many stories. Uh, that's what's fresh

527
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: in my mind now because of the documentary. The fact

528
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 3: that when I first started singing again. Uh, John Ilfontia

529
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: was my producer, has been my producer for years. Became

530
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: a very good friend him and Dino, his brother. And

531
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: remember I had done six albums already in the secular world.

532
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: I had it my way, all right. I hadn't sang

533
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: for five years, so I was rusty. And so when

534
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: we went in to do back the Street, John just

535
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: putting me through. Oh my gosh, I he beat me

536
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 3: up mentally, physically. Oh my, guys singing because he knew

537
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: what I could do. He was He's actually a fan,

538
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: so he knew what I could do, and he said,

539
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: we're not settling for anything less. Oh my gosh, I

540
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: it was. It was quite the terror. And what's funny

541
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: is that we were talking about in the documentary. I

542
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 3: remember that now. It's like wow, and that was something

543
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: that was fresh in my mind. And but I told him,

544
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: I said, don't you settle for anything less than what

545
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: you feel is best, you know, because I got to

546
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: listen to the rest of my life. He said, don't

547
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: worry about it, and that was sort of something cool.

548
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: Now going now, let's go to Josh mcdoaltour, and that

549
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: was a major part of our ministry. Lasted over I

550
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: think four records from from this means War fired up, Petrick,

551
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 3: praise won and beyond belief. That tour went on forever.

552
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 3: And there was a time in California where it was

553
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: a packed house. But I remember it because it had

554
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 3: very wide aisles, just unusually wide aisles. I'm going, wow,

555
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: this is It was in a college, I think, and

556
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: it's like, wow, this is unusual. So it was a

557
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: blessed night. We had a we had a good night.

558
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: Josh came out and was just anointed from the word

559
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: go and the way we did it was we'd play

560
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: and then we'd play one two songs, and then Joshua

561
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: came out and speak, and then we'd play more songs,

562
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: and then he'd come out and do the aldcall. And

563
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: he did the ldercone. We're standing that beside, you know,

564
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: behind him, so we were always in unison, and so

565
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: he gets the other to call it, and we asked

566
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 3: him to come down. So many people came down that

567
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: all those aisles in the bleachers, it was packed, was packed.

568
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: I mean half the house must have come forward.

569
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: Wow.

570
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: And I remember Josh turning around and going, oh my gosh,

571
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: and we were all going, he goes, he goes, we're

572
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: going we don't know because normally what you do is

573
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 3: the people that came forward. We had a fantastic group

574
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 3: of volunteers in another room that was assigned for it,

575
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: with with our bibles and that kind of stuff, and

576
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: we realized there's not a room in this building that's

577
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: big enough for all these people except this one. So

578
00:31:52,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 3: Josh goes, well, folks, we have a dilemma. Pastors, anyone

579
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: that that has depth in the word, can you help

580
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: be our volunteers. We're bringing all of us we're just

581
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: gonna we're just going to talk to these people here

582
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 3: and they and the concert in it, because normally we

583
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: would as as the people were going uh back in

584
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 3: the back room, we didn't have one or two more

585
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: songs for the people that stayed. And I still read

586
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: that that just really rings so right to me. That

587
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: was such a blessing to be able to be part

588
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: of that. It was like, thank you God for letting

589
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 3: us be part of this this vision. And it was

590
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: like being part of Petra's ministry for so long. People

591
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: don't realize how it used to be with older calls,

592
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: and that that was almost instant gratification, where you go, oh,

593
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: this is why we did it. And and as time changed,

594
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: I regret that the older call actually disappeared out of

595
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: Christian music, which I think is is really a shame. Yeah,

596
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,959
Speaker 3: for many I think ridiculous reasons. But you know, for instance,

597
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: when we did our anniversary, we would give an all

598
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: the call, but we wouldn't be able to say, and

599
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: you've got volunteers back here, come forward. We can't do that.

600
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: We had to do it a little different way. But

601
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: we still believe the whole reason for a Christian concert

602
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: is for those that came of not knowing Christ has

603
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: a chance to become part of the family that night.

604
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: So we sort of regret, We sort of regret the

605
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: not having the past there, but still we're able to

606
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: do it in whatever way is supposed to work.

607
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: Now, right right, Yeah, it's it's interesting to have both perspectives,

608
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: to have the perspective of saying, you know, these are

609
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: things that we have had the privilege to witness God.

610
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: Do you know we were available for him to use

611
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: He used us in the in these ways. We give

612
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: him the glory, we give him the praise, and we

613
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: want to be faithful to Him in the midst of

614
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 2: every generation that we're in. And but yet appreciate the

615
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 2: fact that you don't necessarily need to throw everything out,

616
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 2: you know, just because I don't know, culture has different

617
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 2: preferences or whatever. You know, there's reasons why we we

618
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: we took these approaches at different seasons, and so yeah,

619
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: I love that it just.

620
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: You know, it's just I could we could spend two

621
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: or three interviews just starting to go Okay, this tour

622
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: was da da da, da da, And there's some highlights

623
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: that I will have to say, I remember even back,

624
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: you know even now. So I mean from a girl

625
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: that their friends brought to me backstay actually brought to

626
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: me to the gate and said, we need to talk

627
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 3: to John right now. The gatekeeper, the guard goes. They

628
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: he could see that they were serious. So you got

629
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: a hold to me. I went and came, she is

630
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 3: deemon possessed, but she wants to talk to you. And

631
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: I said, oh really, and I said and I went

632
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: to oh my gosh, she was oh. And I said, hey,

633
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: you know, uh, I'm not scared of you, kid only

634
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: I'm not scared of you. You are a sweetheart, but

635
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: what's in you is not And I command them to

636
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: leave you right now in Jesus's name, And I mean

637
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: with you got to be bold when you're facing me

638
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: in them, You've got to understand that your child of God,

639
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: and you have the power through Jesus's name to h

640
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: absolute in the bold way, say hey, you need to

641
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: leave right now. You're you're not part of God's plan.

642
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: And she she actually softened up and started crying. And

643
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: I believe that it was a victory in Jesus. And

644
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: their friends are like, oh my god, oh wow, oh wow.

645
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 3: And you know it's little stuff like that that just

646
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 3: sort of you should never forget. It's a testimony. It's

647
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 3: something that we need to give God credit for. Every day.

648
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 1: Got a doubt very much fits with the theming of

649
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: that this means war album for sure, as we can

650
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: think about the spiritual warfare that I think sometimes we

651
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: like to be so sophisticated that we like to pretend

652
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 1: that that's not going on around us. And I think

653
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: that's so naive for us as believers. Ephesian six is

654
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: very clear that there is a spiritual battle taking place

655
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: all around us, and it would be naive of us

656
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: to ignore that. It'd be foolish of us to ignore

657
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: that when the word of God's revealed that it's an

658
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: actual thing.

659
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we understand that, it's, like you said, an

660
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: actual thing. It's like you know, it rains good. It

661
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 3: knows that's not good, but it's okay. And we're a

662
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 3: spiritual war. Ba. If we start realizing why the garbage

663
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,479
Speaker 3: is happening to this country for instance, or to the world, right,

664
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: that's not God, that's the enemy who has access to

665
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 3: this world. And we start realizing that that what where

666
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 3: people are suffering, that's a battle going on. There's a

667
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: deeper reason for all this stuff. Oh yeah, there's a

668
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 3: different There's a deeper reason why why men are evil. Uh,

669
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: there's a deeper reason why there's so much hate. And

670
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 3: we start realizing that because if you only handle it

671
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: on man's surface, you're missing all the real battle. I mean,

672
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 3: don't ignore man's surface. I mean you see somebody pointing

673
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: the gun at you, you try to get away, you know, Yeah,

674
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 3: and don't say in Jesus name that bull's not going

675
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: to hit me. But but you be wise in understand

676
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 3: there's a deeper battle going on and you can make

677
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: a difference.

678
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt.

679
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: Well you, John, you have the perspective of years observing

680
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: the Lord in this music ministry, and we're grateful. And

681
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: as you look ahead, there's obviously you just listed a

682
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: few things that are on the docket here for coming months,

683
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: the coming year. What are some things that make anything

684
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: in addition to what you've already shared, Dreams, projects, anything

685
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: like that, or even just a leading that you sense

686
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 2: from the Lord in this upcoming season or chapter.

687
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 3: My leading I want I'll be out of. My fear

688
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 3: is that there's going to be so much going on

689
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: that that will be physically able to handle it. Okay,

690
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: I want I really want to see all this through.

691
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: I've been greedy. I want to enjoy. I want to

692
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: be part of this excitement that seems to be happening.

693
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: I want to be physically, mentally, and spiritually able to

694
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: do it. I guess that would be my plate right

695
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: now is so full. From what I see, I'm pretty

696
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: excited about it.

697
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: You want to be ready for the things you can't do.

698
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: I want to be available. I want to be at

699
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: my peak. I want to you know, if somebody gosh,

700
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: he's old, yeah, but he can still do it. If

701
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: I walk on stage and they go, yeah, he's old,

702
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 3: well yeah, that's why he's sort of cool. You know.

703
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 3: I don't want that, right. I want to I want

704
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 3: this next year to be a year of completion. I

705
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: want to be all my guys. They should be on stage.

706
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. They they are what they're doing, what

707
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: they're supposed to do, and I want us to stop.

708
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that perspective. It's interesting. I wouldn't worry

709
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: too much about the whole you know, this is old

710
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: or he is old or whatever, because I keep looking

711
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: at the charts, and I'm noticing music on the charts

712
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: from decades ago that's charting again. And I was in

713
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: a store the other day and I, you know, the

714
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 2: magazine Wreck right before you get to the to the

715
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: cashiers there had Kiss on one of the you know,

716
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: covers and it said the biggest band in the world Kiss.

717
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at this here, and you know, I

718
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: just saw that they got you know, their their honors

719
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: from the President and all of that, and so I

720
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: don't know, I I'm looking at this and I'm thinking,

721
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: time is not something I'm gonna worry too much about.

722
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 2: If the if these are people that people are still

723
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: talking about, if you know, your your day is as

724
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: long as you are with us here and and the

725
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Lord's using you, and and you have a heart that's

726
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: open to be used of the Lord, and I think

727
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: that's a beautiful thing.

728
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, thank you. I you know what, I'm

729
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: I'm pretty excited about it, I really am. And like

730
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: I said, between the documentary and the UH and then

731
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: there's a possible a possible Petrum movie, you know, not

732
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 3: the not the UH Beyond Belief movie, but actually another movie.

733
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: Oh wow, where the.

734
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 3: Beyond belief movie is is really is not about Petra,

735
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 3: but it's using petr music.

736
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: Okay, excellent.

737
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: I thought, it's just the sky's limit. If if we

738
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: are available and God wants to use this, praise God,

739
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: we will go on and we will kick.

740
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: That's right. I believe it.

741
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: I have I announced on just my personal social media.

742
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 2: I told people, hey, I haven't announced this super big yet,

743
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: but I'm going to have John Schlitt on the podcast soon.

744
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: And I asked people, I said, hey, do you have

745
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: any questions for John? Do you have any comments you

746
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: want to pass along to him? And I took a

747
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: sample of some of those comments and questions, so I'll

748
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: just popcorn these real really quickly tea as we wrap up,

749
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: and you could give. Some of them are just like,

750
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, people being excited that you're joining us here.

751
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: But first one's a question. It's from Steven Stetler.

752
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,959
Speaker 2: He says, very exciting, he was excited that you're joining

753
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: the show, and he said, I would just ask John

754
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: there are a few Petra songs he considered his favorite.

755
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 2: So we kind of answered that a little bit in

756
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: in our discussion a little bit ago. But he also commented,

757
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 2: he said Petra produced music for a long period of time,

758
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: had a lot of great albums. And I happen to

759
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: know Steven's family and I know that they are very

760
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: supportive of the music of Petra. So any additional thoughts

761
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: for him on favorites that we haven't already covered, just.

762
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: Tell him thank you, he and his family for supporting us,

763
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 3: for believing us, and for trusting us. It's it's a

764
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: it's a major honor. When when families with when when

765
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: anyone will grab a Petro who can say, Yep, these

766
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 3: guys are good. That says, like their style, but.

767
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: Trust them excellent, very good. Andrea Stangi says, so cool

768
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: that you were joining the show. David Stein says, so exciting,

769
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: and he comments, one of my favorite CDs of all

770
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: my collection is Petra Praise Too. He said, that's a classic,

771
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: love that one.

772
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 3: Thank you. Tell him thank you. I totally agreed. It

773
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 3: has a song called lord Eleftnium on High Yeah, which

774
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: should have been a It should have been a single.

775
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: I still am angry that the record company says, no,

776
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: you had God gave or you had a we need Jesus.

777
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: We got number one on that that's good enough. Where

778
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: we're going to another I'm going you've got to be

779
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: kidding me. And so, but that song, uh lord, I

780
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: Lift a Name on High is that's one of those

781
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 3: songs that we have to play.

782
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, I love that.

783
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love that record too.

784
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: Without a doubt. It's a good one. The first Petra

785
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: Praise album. My uh my Sunday school teacher bought that

786
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: for me when I was fifteen years old.

787
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 3: Good good, yes, a good person.

788
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: A good person. Yeah.

789
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: She didn't even like rock music, but she said, I

790
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: know you'll like this, and she saw me as a

791
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: growing Christian. She's like, here, feed your brain some of

792
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: this good stuff. That's all I got, the first Petripraise.

793
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: All right, Brian Mays says, oh, so he's all excited.

794
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh exclamation point, and he says, well, I have no

795
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: questions to ask of John, but this is really exciting

796
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 2: to hear.

797
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: So Brian Mays is going to be excited to hear this.

798
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 3: I hope you were disappointed in the interview.

799
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: I know he won't be. No, that's very exciting. Tony

800
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: Slabaugh says, I love the Colors song. That was his comment.

801
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 3: Yes, actually courtesy of the documentary. I just heard the

802
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: Coloring Song was actually a song that was added to

803
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: that record last minute. It was an old it was

804
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: an old Bob called it a children's tune, and they

805
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 3: put it on the record last minute because the record

806
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: company felt like they needed another slow song, okay, And

807
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: it was the first major hit for Petra that really

808
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 3: opened the door for them. I just and I loved

809
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: the funny Greg Bolts at the time, they had just

810
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: finished doing that song and he was out at a

811
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: park with his wife in a little town called Lincoln, Illinois,

812
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 3: and one of the one of our elders, heard him

813
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: out the park says, oh, you got to come and

814
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: sing in our church. And it was a church where

815
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: I got saved.

816
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: Oh wow, baby Christian at the time.

817
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: And Greg came and sang there, and we had lunch

818
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: at the elder's house afterwards, or you know, gathering, and

819
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: he says, man, come on, he's had a band. He says,

820
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: come on, I want you to hear this song. Because

821
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 3: he knew who I was, and he says, he says,

822
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: what do you think? And he played the Coloring Song

823
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: for me. So the first time I ever heard that

824
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 3: song was in Gregg's van. This is a hit, and

825
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 3: sure enough, sure enough, that's a story that no one's

826
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: ever heard before.

827
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, you just gave us a

828
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: new background story here an exclusive on the Dwell on

829
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: These Things podcast.

830
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I like that.

831
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: That's great. That's a great story. Cassie Porr says, awesome.

832
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 2: Sherry Simpson says, how fun. Ann mock Ratit says, we

833
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: totally rocked out to them at PMBC.

834
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Now, I know who Anne is. Ann Is.

835
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: I grew up with Anna and we worked PMBC as

836
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: a Pokemon Mountain Bible Conference. It's a summer camping ministry

837
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: that we worked at together when we were teenagers.

838
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: And she is absolutely right.

839
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: She tells the truth, and we definitely did rock out

840
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 2: to them at PMBC. Rich Avery, he's in the Great

841
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: State of Michigan, he says, when you joined Petra, So

842
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: this is a question, when you joined Petra, what creative

843
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: expectations did the band have of you? Because obviously changing

844
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: to a new singer and you're gonna have your own

845
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: influence on the band at that point, So what creative

846
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 2: expectations did the band have on you when you became

847
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: the lead singer.

848
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 3: They absolutely wanted to go more rock. Absolutely, That's why

849
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 3: they got John and Dino. That's why they got me.

850
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: Let's partition. When they got me, they realized, oh, we

851
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: can now go more rock. And then they got John

852
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: and Dino because they actually asked the record company to

853
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: find someone who could produce a little more of a

854
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: rock you know, more aggressive rock sound, and so that

855
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 3: I think that was our expectation.

856
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: I think we filled it excellent, excellent.

857
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: And then the final question from Matt Flom, he said,

858
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 2: what inspired you to go out on tour again? Now

859
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: you answered that a little bit. Is there anything else

860
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: you want to add to that?

861
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: Well, really it really started back in three or four

862
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: years ago when we were doing the fiftieth anniversary. What

863
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: happened there was we hadn't played what for twenty years,

864
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: maybe a couple for special occasions, but not at all,

865
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 3: And so Bob called me and said, you know, it's

866
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: been fifty years for picture. Maybe we should do something

867
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: to honor that. And I said, well, Buddy, I don't

868
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: even know if the band, if the band's available. Now

869
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: he goes, well, let's call them and see if they're available,

870
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 3: and we can do like, maybe we'll do like six

871
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: shows all over the world, you know, maybe like one

872
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: in Brazil, one an Archtitude. You know. We I'll be honest,

873
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: We didn't think we'd play anywhere in the US because

874
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 3: we had been you know, lost in the shuffle, we thought,

875
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: and so we finally said, okay, let's do it. And

876
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 3: that first year we did like ten shows, but that

877
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: opened up the door to oh my gosh, Petner's playing

878
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: and we missed it and we got all these calls

879
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,919
Speaker 3: next year to build The year after that it build

880
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: up even more. And the last year not this year,

881
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 3: but in twenty twenty four, it was gigantic and all

882
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: over the world, and the crowds were great, and they

883
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: kept saying, hey, John, guys, do one more record, Just

884
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: do one more record. You guys have got it because

885
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: it was great shows and you should do another record.

886
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: And so we walked off with that feel. And then

887
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: a record company came to us and says, we want, well,

888
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 3: we want to do a documentary. We want to do

889
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: a movie, and we want you guys to do the

890
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: soundtrack for it. Wow, And we go, okay, why do

891
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 3: a soundtrack work? We might as well just do another record. Yeah,

892
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 3: and we didn't know. We wouldn't realize what we were

893
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: climbing into because we were going to do it ourselves,

894
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: which has never been done before. It's just us, just

895
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 3: the band as it is now. And like I said before,

896
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: having four bosses is a real pain. I would It

897
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 3: was almost back with the John Lvonte thing, back and

898
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: back to the street. They were more critical on me

899
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: than John was, so but it was they knew it

900
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 3: had we were competing with our old selves. Ye, with

901
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 3: all our stuff. It had to be as good, it

902
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: had to be better, and I think we actually competent.

903
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 3: I mean it's a little sort it's sort of a

904
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: cross between Jackal and Hyde Beyond Belief and maybe actually

905
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 3: maybe some of the slower stuff too, so excellent. So

906
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 3: that's how it all turned. And then once the record

907
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 3: was done, Bob goes, we thought it could be done

908
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 3: like in February, so we were going to do the

909
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: tour this year and that would be it. It's not

910
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: done yet, so Bob goes, should we tour this thing

911
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: next year? I said, well, it's a new record. He says, yeah,

912
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 3: we're going to be like seventy six. And I said, well,

913
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: as long as you can play the way you are

914
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 3: and as long as I can sing, that record deserves

915
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 3: to be toured. It So at least for nineteen or

916
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty six, we're going to be touring, hope.

917
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: And if it goes further and we still can do it,

918
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 3: praise God. If not, God is good and he allowed

919
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 3: us to do it for as long as he allowed

920
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: us to.

921
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: Do it, I love it. Do it, absolutely, do it. John.

922
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: This has been so so fun to have you on

923
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: as a guest. I really genuinely appreciate you carving out

924
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 2: time for our listeners.

925
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: And I wonder if listeners want to.

926
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: Follow up with you, learn more about the music and

927
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 2: ministry of Petra any of that, where are the best

928
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 2: places for them to do that?

929
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: You know what? I actually checked the internet today and

930
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: I googled Petra the rock band, and there are so

931
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: many things I can't really tell you exact. If you

932
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 3: want to find out about Petra, just google it and

933
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 3: you'll find out.

934
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: And you'll find it hard to find it.

935
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: But if you want a little more, if you want,

936
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: I know, I'm in control of this. If you want

937
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: to know, for instance, we're playing, just go to John W.

938
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 3: Slit dot com and we have all that. Also, I

939
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: think it's Petra band Tours.

940
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: Okay, probably get that.

941
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 3: Also, I don't want to slight Petra. Of course I

942
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: have more control with my with my website. So those

943
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 3: are two of the probably the best ways to do.

944
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: It, excellent.

945
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: And we'll put the links to both of those in

946
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: the description. So if you're watching on YouTube, if you're

947
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: listening via the check the description, click those links there

948
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: and we'll make sure that you are sent in the

949
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 2: right direction. Again, John, thank you so much for joining

950
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 2: us today. This was truly an honor to have you

951
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: on the show.

952
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: John. It's always fun to talk to folks that actually

953
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: know what we do. It's very nice ed. Really, it

954
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 3: was a pleasure. John, Thank you so much. And again

955
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 3: I want to thank everyone who's still interested in being

956
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 3: part of Petro's camp. We'll try us not to let

957
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 3: you out.

958
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: Excellent. Thank you.

959
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: Hey, we didn't think we were going to be doing this,

960
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: but John and I were just talking. We're giving you

961
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: an exclusive bonus moment because John has something else that

962
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 2: he wants to tell you about.

963
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 3: Absolutely right now. There is a new LP coming out

964
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 3: from my CD A long time ago. Called the Christmas

965
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 3: Project Perfect Season. I love Christmas. Christmas for me starts

966
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 3: on Halloween because I put up my Christmas tree on

967
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,959
Speaker 3: Halloween just to show what spirit I believe in rather

968
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 3: than that. But the fact that they wanted to do

969
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: an LP was really neat. It's fantastic, it's beautiful cover.

970
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 3: Girder Music always does a fantastic job with LPs, and

971
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: they didn't let me down one bit. So I have

972
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 3: to make at least an output that it's there if

973
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 3: you get a chance to look at it or listen

974
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 3: to it. Actually, LP sounded really good. I was surprised,

975
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: but it's an honor to be able to say, hey,

976
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 3: if you're out there, you want to get part of that,

977
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 3: go for it.

978
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: Love it all right?

979
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 2: Check out the LP again. The LP's called what the

980
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: Christmas Project? The Christmas Project, So check out that LP.

981
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 1: All right. That's our bonus for you. Merry Christmas, everybody,

982
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas.