1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Hi there, it's Danache and welcome to the Rebuilding US 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: Marriage Podcast. There are sometimes things that we are doing 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: in our marriages that also contribute to our spouse not 5 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: feeling emotionally safe. Emotional connectivity is not a plus, it's 6 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: a priority. So while I do encourage you to have 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: boundaries in your relationships, I'd never encourage putting up walls. 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,319 Speaker 2: You cannot connect to anybody if you have a wall up. 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: Hey everybody, it's Dayache and you're listening to the Rebuilding 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: US Marriage Podcast. We're continuing in our little mini series 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: called Tried and True, where I am talking about some 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: of the themes and topics from my newest book, Tried 13 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: and True Marriage Advice from twelve Imperfect Biblical Couples. Now today, 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to be talking about a conversation that 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: is so pivotal and so foundational for marriage and really 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: for relationships in general. Sorry, if you're watching this on YouTube, 17 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: my hand is kind of doing weird things. I'm like 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: trying to hold this book in my hand. But if 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: you are watching this on YouTube, then you can see. 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: This is chapter one we're going to be talking about today, 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: and it is on Adam and Eve, and I thought, 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: you know, what better way to start this book than 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: to talk about the og couple in the Bible, starting 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: in the very first book of the Bible, the Book 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: of Genesis, Adam and Eve had a really big problem. 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: And it wasn't just that they introduced sin into the world, 27 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: though that it was obviously a huge issue. Their problem 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: was that they really dealt with shame. I think in marriage, 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: in our relationships, the number one thing that we are 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: after is to be seen. I want to think about 31 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: in every relationship that you're a part of, if you 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 2: have a best friend, or if you are a parent, 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: or if you have you know, a business partnership or 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: a cohort or something like that that you're a part of. Obviously, 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: if you're married or in a dating relationship, all of 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: us want to know that we belong, and all of 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: us want to know that we are seen. 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: When you feel unseen. 39 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: And when you feel like you don't belong, that not 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: only damages the relationship, but it also damages you in 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: a sense. And I think that the issue that Adam 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: and Eve had, again it wasn't just that they sinned, 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: even though that was huge, but it was that when 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: sin entered into their relationship, it caused them to go 45 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: into hiding. I spend quite a bit of time talking 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: about the difference between us hiding from God and us 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: hiding from each other. I think that that is a 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: very key point that a lot of people miss when 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: they're reading through this story, is that if you've read 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: the Bible, if you've read especially the story of Adam 51 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: and Eve, you know that Adam and Eve hid from God. 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: But before they hid from God, they also hid from 53 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: each other. And I think that that's really important to 54 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 2: note because in marriage, if you are married to someone 55 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 2: that you do not feel safe with, someone that you 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: feel like you have to hide from, And of course 57 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: I don't mean physically hiding, but I mean emotionally you 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: feel like you have to hide from, then obviously that's 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: going to affect every aspect of your intimacy. If you've 60 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: listened to these episodes before, you know that I define 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: intimacy as into me. See, it's not just sexual, it's 62 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: not just physical touching. Intimacy is coming together as a 63 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: whole person with another whole person. Right, So, when you 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: think about Adam and Eve's story, and we think about 65 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: the shame, and we think about the emotional disconnection that 66 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: sin brought in. I can't help but to think about 67 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: some of you that are maybe experiencing that in your relationships. 68 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk for the next several minutes 69 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: about how to not only recognize if your relationship is 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: suffering from emotional disconnection or emotional if emotional safety in 71 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: your relationship has been put in jeopardy. But then of 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: course we're going to talk about how to rebuild that. 73 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: I was talking to a lady in church recently and 74 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: she was letting me know that she had been married 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: for about seventy years, I think she said, and their 76 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: marriage is good. She was like, our marriage is good, 77 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: we just are not close. And I knew exactly what 78 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: she meant. Like, from the outside, everything looks good, right, 79 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: there's no crisis and there's no trauma. There's nothing big 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: that people would point to and say, wow, that's a 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: bad marriage. But she felt this chasm in between her 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: and her husband. And honestly, that is the person that 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: I wrote this book for. If you're reading Tried and 84 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: True whenever it releases, which if you're listening to this 85 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: in real time, it's going to release in just a 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. But when you're reading through this book, 87 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily talking to people who have these huge 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 2: crises in their marriage. Yes, I will help you as 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: a marriage coach with that, but this book is written 90 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: to people who are in the middle. That's actually what 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 2: the subtitle is on the book. It says for marriages 92 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: in the middle. And what I mean by that is, 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: you're like that lady that I talked to in church. 94 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Everything on the outside might look good, there's nothing majorly 95 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: going wrong in your relationships, but you know that there's 96 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: a connect and you want to solve that. So let's 97 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 2: open up our Bibles to Genesis, and we are going 98 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 2: to read just a couple of scriptures here from the 99 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: Book of Genesis, chapter two. So Genesis chapter two, twenty five, 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 2: it says, now the man and his wife were both naked, 101 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 2: but they felt no shame. Chapter one is called Adam 102 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: and Eve Naked and Unashamed. I've talked about this before 103 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: on other episodes, because again I think that that aspect 104 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 2: of being unashamed is really the essence of intimacy. It's 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 2: being known and being fully known. It's not hiding, it's 106 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: not having to pretend. It's not having to act like 107 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: you know, everything's okay, or hiding parts of yourself right. 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 2: And I think that when we get to that place 109 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: and then that is somehow taken away from us. A 110 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 2: lot of people feel very vulnerable, they feel very open, 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: they feel very attached to their spouse right before they 112 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: get married. And then they get married and something happens, 113 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: and if you're not able to trace what happened, like 114 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: some people, this is when we hear people say, like 115 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 2: we just quote grew apart. Well, you don't just grow apart. 116 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: Something happened to be the catalyst to that. 117 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: Now. 118 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: I do believe that disconnection is our default, and you 119 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: may have heard me say that before. If you're not 120 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: actively and intentionally working to build a better marriage, then 121 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: by default, you are going to disconnect. Yes, that takes time. 122 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: I'm talking about those folks who get married and like 123 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: in a short few months, they just are totally disconnected. 124 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: It's usually because something happened that they're either not able 125 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: to identify or they don't want to identify. So I 126 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about safety as a need. 127 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: A lot of times we think of women, right like 128 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: women have needs. Men have needs, and we often think 129 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: that women have this overarching need of safety, which is true, 130 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: but do you know that men also have a huge 131 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 2: need for safety. This is why a lot of guys 132 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: don't have a lot of friends, because they don't feel 133 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: safe enough to truly be themselves with other men. When 134 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: a man finds a woman that he can bear his 135 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: heart to where he can just be completely open and 136 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: honest to, he will keep that woman forever because it 137 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: is such a need. 138 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: That men have. 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: And on the flip side, if a man feels like 140 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: he cannot trust his wife, he cannot depend on her 141 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: to keep his secrets or to not look down on 142 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: him for being the man that he is, he will 143 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: keep her at arm's length all day. So if you're 144 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: a wife and you're wondering, why does my husband keep 145 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: me at arm's length? Why does my husband seem to 146 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: push me away? I talk about the specific couple that 147 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: I've been coaching in this book that I've written, and 148 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: of course I don't ever give any kind of details 149 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: or any of that because I do respect my client's privacy. 150 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: But this is a very common issue where a husband 151 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: will push his wife away, and in this particular couple 152 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: that I had been coaching the issue. It wasn't that 153 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: the wife had done some horrible thing. Right in many 154 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: of you, you're like, I haven't done anything. I mean, 155 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: if there's anything, let me know so that I can 156 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: fix this. Right, it's not you doing something. It might 157 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: be that your husband just doesn't feel safe. Now. That 158 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: might be because of things that you've said or done 159 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: in the past, or it might just be his own insecurities. 160 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. We really have to diagnose and see 161 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: what's going on there. 162 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: But all I know is that emotional safety is a 163 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: need for both men and women. It's not just a 164 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: woman's need. We all have this need, this foundational, structural 165 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: need to feel emotionally safe in our relationships. So when 166 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: we look at like the OG couple, right, Adam and Eve, 167 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: we also look at the way that God designed marriage 168 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: to operate. God has always desired for us to be 169 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: emotionally unashamed with one another, no hiding, no secrets, no pretending. 170 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: That's his desire. And the reason that I stress this 171 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,359 Speaker 2: is because this is not just a plus. Emotional connectivity 172 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: is not a plus. It's a priority because it's the 173 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: way that God purposed for marriage to be. So if 174 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: you're in a marriage and you're emotionally disconnected, this is 175 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: very urgent that we fix this. This is not just 176 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 2: like a you know, oh, you know, that'd be nice 177 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: if we could be emotionally close. 178 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: No, this is actually foundational. Okay. 179 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: So when we think about what stands in the way 180 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: of us truly being open with our spouse, I think 181 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot of things, right that can come to play. 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: There are a lot of reasons why we might hold back. 183 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: I think one of those is sin. 184 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: For sure. 185 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: If let's say there's a spouse who's being unfaithful, then 186 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: that's going to obviously disconnect the marriage and you're gonna 187 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 2: feel that. And this is where I tell people a 188 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: lot of times, you got to pay attention to those 189 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: red flags and those warning signs concerning infidelity. If you 190 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: were close and all of a sudden you're disconnected, there's 191 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 2: a reason for that, and sometimes that can be sin. Now, 192 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: sin is not only infidelity, It could be other types 193 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: of sin that have entered into the relationship. So sin 194 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: is one of those things. Again, this was Adam and 195 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: Eve's situation, right, sin entered into their relationship. It broke 196 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: their discon or it broke their connection. Sin entered into 197 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: their relationship and it broke their connection. Okay, not only 198 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: can sin enter into relationship and break that emotional connectivity, 199 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: but so can shame. 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: And I think this is one of. 201 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: Those points that it really makes me sad because sometimes 202 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: people are dealing with shame and they can pretend real well, 203 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 2: like from the outside, you would never know that that 204 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: person is really dealing with a bitter root of shame 205 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 2: in their life. But then what happens is then they 206 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: get married and they cannot connect. They cannot they will not. 207 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: I'll say that they will not. They choose not to 208 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: because they are so full of shame. And they could 209 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: be shame because of what they've done, or shame because 210 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: of what has been done to them. Maybe they were 211 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: a victim of some sort of assault or molestation, or 212 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: maybe their parents were just verbally abusive to them or 213 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: something like that, right, And that person has carried a 214 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 2: lot of shame with them, and so they get married 215 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: thinking that the marriage is going to fix it. But 216 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: marriage doesn't solve any problems, y'all know that, right, And 217 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: so they're dealing with this shame and they can't connect. 218 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: I think another thing that stands in the way of 219 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 2: our emotional connectivity is also self protection. What does self 220 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: protection do for us, Well, we think it's keeping us 221 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: from harm. So really, at the root of all of 222 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: that is fear. We're afraid of something. I'm afraid I'm 223 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: gonna be hurt. So because I'm afraid I'm and be hurt, 224 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to intentionally hold myself back self protection. I 225 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: was talking to someone I won't say who. I was 226 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: talking to someone very recently, and I had this whole 227 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: conversation with this person about a lot of times you 228 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: feel like putting those walls up keeps, you say, and 229 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: it might, but you know what walls also do. 230 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: They keep good things out. 231 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: As much as I love to talk about boundaries, I 232 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 2: always make that very clear definition. A boundary is not 233 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: a wall. Walls are impenetrable. Boundaries are. They're fluid. You 234 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: can move a boundary if need be. So, while I 235 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: do encourage you to have boundaries in your relationships, i'd 236 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: never encourage putting up walls. But that's what a lot 237 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: of people do when they're trying to protect themselves out 238 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: of fear. 239 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: They'll put a. 240 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: Wall up, and of course you cannot connect to anybody 241 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: if you have a wall up. So we're going to 242 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: take a quick break for a word from our sponsor, 243 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: and when we come back, I'm going to show you 244 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: if you have this issue in your relationship, this disconnection, 245 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: this feeling that I am not emotionally safe, I'm going 246 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: to give you some tips on how you can begin 247 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: to work on that right now. So take this time, 248 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 2: make sure that you subscribe to the podcast. 249 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: And we'll be right back. All right, my friends, we're back. 250 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: So before the break, we were talking about reasons that 251 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: our relationships fall into this emotional chasm, this emotional disconnection, 252 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: and now I want to help you to understand not 253 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: only some of those kind of external reasons or maybe 254 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 2: subconscious reasons like the self protection or the shame, but 255 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: I also want you to understand that there are sometimes 256 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: things that we are doing in our marriages that also 257 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 2: contribute to our spouse not feeling emotionally safe. Okay, Now 258 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: this is where you're going to have to be real 259 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: honest with yourself and do not get offended by anything 260 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: that I'm about to say to you, okay, because. 261 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: My job is always to help you to improve. 262 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: It's not to make you feel bad about yourself or 263 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: to feel ashamed because of things that you've done in 264 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: the past. This is all to help you not to 265 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: make the same mistakes, or if you have already made 266 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: these mistakes, to go back and clean it up so 267 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: that you can fix your relationships so that your relationship 268 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 2: can be healthy and whole. So one of the things 269 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: that I think I see a lot is the way 270 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: that we talk to each other. 271 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: Y'all. Let me tell you something. 272 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: Sometimes we talk to people that we live with way 273 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: worse than we would ever talk to a stranger or 274 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: a coworker or someone like that. Sometimes people just lack 275 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: basic manners in their houses. So you can be nice 276 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: that everybody out there in the world, but then you 277 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: get home and you treat your spouse like trash. You 278 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: don't say please, you don't say thank you, you barely 279 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 2: say good morning, you leave without saying goodbye like wow, 280 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: you know, and then we wonder why we're disconnected. So 281 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: there are certain things that are just like we're just 282 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: gonna have to work at those things, right, We're just 283 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: gonna have to be a little bit more intentional about 284 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: some basic things like the way that you treat your spouse, 285 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: not being harsh if they make a mistake, not you know, 286 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: calling them names or rolling your eyes or being rude 287 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: or embarrassing them in front of other people. If you 288 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: embarrass your spouse or anybody for that matter, they are 289 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: not going to want to connect with you because you 290 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: are not an emotionally safe person. So I want you 291 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 2: to think about, are there any times in my relationship 292 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: where I have been harsh? And I'm not talking about 293 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: like you said a harsh thing like fifteen years ago. 294 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: I'm talking about like, this is kind of your pattern 295 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: when you get upset, you say stuff out of your 296 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: mouth that you know is hurtful, and you never go 297 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: back and clean up that stuff, and you haven't done 298 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: any work. 299 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: To fix your own communication. 300 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: You're so busy talking about the communication of my marriage 301 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: is broken, but you don't realize that. No, it's you 302 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: the way that you're communicating that's the problem. Okay, So 303 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: think about what are those things that I've maybe said, 304 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: or maybe things that have been said to you. Maybe 305 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: there are harsh responses that have been said to you 306 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: and you have not forgiven those things, or those things 307 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: have not been made right. 308 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: So that's the first thing. 309 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: The other thing that can cause our emotional safety to 310 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: break is being defensive. You know, your spouse tells you 311 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: something because they love you and they're trying to help you, 312 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: but you just get defensive. Nothing's ever your fault, it's 313 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: somebody else's fault, or you don't understand me, or why 314 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: would you assume that about me? We get very defensive, 315 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: and this is where you have to ask yourself, is 316 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: my spouse on my team or not? Like, is my 317 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: spouse really for me or are they not? And I 318 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: believe that our spouses are more for us than they 319 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 2: are against us. But if you're not careful, you will 320 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: develop this this theme in your mind, a story, a 321 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: narrative in your mind that your spouse is really not 322 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: for you. So even the things that they're telling you 323 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: that are meant to help you, you will see that 324 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: as some sort of put down or criticism. And this 325 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 2: is where you're just gonna have to choose, does this 326 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: person really love me or not? Are they for me 327 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: or not? Maybe something that I need to work on 328 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: in my own mind instead of projecting that onto my spouse. Okay, 329 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: So harshness defensiveness another thing that breaks our intimacy is 330 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: minimizing our spouse's feelings. 331 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: Our spouse comes and. 332 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: They talk to us about something that's been bothering them, 333 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: and we say things like, you know, it's not even 334 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: a big deal, or oh my gosh, you're over exaggerating, 335 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: or why do you take things so seriously? Well, listen, 336 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: if you do that to people, then they're not gonna 337 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: trust you, they're not gonna talk to you, they're not 338 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: gonna open up to you. So think about, have you 339 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: been doing some of that minimizing of your spouse's feelings. 340 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: Something else is unforgiveness. I alluded to this a little 341 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: bit before when I was talking about maybe you are 342 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: the one that's been receiving some of that harshness from 343 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: your spouse and you're holding on to unforgiveness Again, maybe 344 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: you're putting up an emotional wall because you know that 345 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: this person isn't safe. So if there is any unforgiveness 346 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 2: that exists in your marriage, that will affect your emotional connectivity, 347 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: and it will have a direct effect on whether you 348 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 2: feel emotionally safe with this person or not. Unforgiveness is 349 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 2: such a bitter root, and this is why every place 350 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: that you find it. You have to be willing to 351 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: root that thing out lest it destroy your whole relationship. Okay, 352 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: and then the fifth thing that I think that really 353 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: affects us our emotional connectivity is judgments. Now we don't 354 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: talk about this a who whole lot, but I want 355 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 2: you to listen to me here. What is the difference 356 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: between just telling the truth and being judgmental? Right, because, 357 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 2: like in our society, people have confused the to they 358 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: conflate the two. They think if you're telling someone the truth, 359 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: that you're judging them. Don't judge me. I'm not judging you. 360 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that this is what it is, right, 361 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: this is the truth. The difference is judgment oftentimes assigns 362 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: motive to people's behavior. So let's say that I'm walking 363 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: down the street and a car cuts off another car 364 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: and I go, oh my goodness, you know I just 365 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: saw that car cut off another car. Am I judging 366 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: the driver? No, I'm stating a fact. There was a 367 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: car that cut off another car. Now that's telling the truth. 368 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: Now what if I said something like I can't believe 369 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: that person is so rude and inconsiderate they cut off 370 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: that other car. That is a judgment. Why because now 371 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: I'm assigning motive. I don't know why that car cut 372 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: off the other car. Listen, I've cut off cars before 373 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 2: and been like, oh, shoot, Like after I realized, either 374 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: after they blare their horn or I happen to see 375 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 2: them in my blind spot, I'm like, oh my gosh, 376 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: I did not mean to do that. You've probably done that. 377 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 2: But why do we not give other people the benefit 378 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: of the doubt, even though we want to receive the 379 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt. 380 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: So whenever you're. 381 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 2: Assigning a motive to someone's behavior, that's a judgment, and 382 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: we often do that in our relationships, and it really 383 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 2: damages the emotional safety and the emotional connectivity. So if 384 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 2: you find yourself doing any of these five things, whether 385 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 2: it be treating your spouse harshly, whether it be be 386 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: in defensive, whether it be minimizing their feelings, whether it 387 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: be holding onto unforgiveness or judgment, then the good news 388 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: is these are all very fixable. You just have to 389 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: be willing to fix those things, okay. And the good 390 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: news is you don't even need a marriage coach or 391 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 2: counselor to help you to do that. 392 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: It's just a decision. 393 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: It's just you being much more intentional about your responses. 394 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: And maybe again there's some thought patterns that you need 395 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: to address so that you can stop projecting these things 396 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: into your relationship because they're really damaging your relationship. Okay, 397 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: so now we talked about coming some of the bad stuff, right, 398 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: let's get to the good stuff. The good news, friend, 399 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: is that all those five things that I just said 400 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: that you need to work on, if you work on them, 401 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 2: you will rebuild your emotional safety. And it's really simple. 402 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to oversimplify. I'm being very very clear here. 403 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: If you stop treating your spouse harshly, then they're not 404 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: going to keep pulling away from you. You address your 405 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,640 Speaker 2: unforgiveness issues, then you're not going to keep pulling away 406 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 2: from your spouse. If you stop judging your spouse, then 407 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: they're not going to feel judged by you, And so 408 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: you're going to connect sometimes just inadvertently, because you're gonna 409 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 2: stop doing these damaging things. Now here are some other 410 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: things that you can do, and I would encourage everybody 411 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: to apply these things to your relationship. Okay, I'm gonna 412 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: give you four quick things and we're gonna be out. 413 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: It's not a long episode today. The first thing is listen. Well, 414 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: I've said this before, I'll say it again. All of 415 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: us know how to hear, but very few people know 416 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: how to listen. When you learn how to be a 417 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: better listener, you create emotional safety. You have two ears 418 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 2: and one mouth. That means we're supposed to listen twice 419 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: as much as we speak. So as you listen to 420 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: other people, they feel seen. Right Think about all the 421 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: people that you love spending time with. They're probably not 422 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 2: people who talk the whole time that you're together. There 423 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: are people who get you. There are people who seem 424 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: to see you to know you. They're people who probably 425 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: listen to you. So apply that same logic to your relationship. 426 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: What if you became an incredible listener, your spouse would 427 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: trust you, they would open up to you, they would 428 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: feel safe with you, and vice versa. So a lot 429 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: of times we've got to learn how to do before 430 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: we receive. I know that you're listening right now, Think 431 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: of Dana, I know this. I want my spouse to 432 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: hear this. Well, Number one, share this episode with them, 433 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 2: and number two, you start doing the things that you 434 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: want to have done to you. The Bible says that 435 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: right do unto others the way that you would have 436 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: them do unto you, So be a better listener. The 437 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: second thing is ask more questions than you make statements. 438 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 2: I ask lots of questions. I mean, as a coach, 439 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 2: that's all I do is ask people questions all day, right, 440 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: ask ask asks. But you have to learn how to 441 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 2: do that in your relationship. Instead of assigning a motive, 442 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: instead of making a blanket statement, learn how to ask 443 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: better questions. Instead of saying like you just da da 444 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 2: da da dah, ask can you explain to me how? 445 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: How is a good question? What is a good question? 446 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: When is a good question? Why is not the greatest question? 447 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Why did you do that? 448 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: That sounds accusatory, right, But. 449 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: If you say something like what made you decide to 450 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: make that decision? Or when did that idea come to you? 451 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: Those are better questions. So learn how to be more 452 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: curious than you make statements. 453 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: Okay. 454 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: Number three, reaffirm your spouse. Sean and I both have 455 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: words of affirmation as one of our top. 456 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: Two love languages. 457 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: We need lots of affirmation, apparently, But when you reaffirm 458 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 2: your spouse. When you affirm your spouse, I mean cause 459 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: some of y'all you don't need to read. You need 460 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: to affirm because you don't do that. So affirming your spouse, 461 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 2: and that's not saying things like you look pretty, you're nice. 462 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: It's talking to their character, saying something about your spouse's 463 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: character in a positive way, like you're so dependable. I 464 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: appreciate how you're always on time, You are so thoughtful. 465 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for thinking to me when you 466 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: went to the store today. 467 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: Things like that. 468 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: Affirming your spouse, that goes a long way to create 469 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: that emotional safety. And then number four is to focus 470 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 2: on your love. 471 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: What do I mean by that? 472 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 2: Y'all have heard me say this before again if you've 473 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: listened to the podcast for a while, your spouse. 474 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: Is not the problem. The problem is the problem when. 475 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 2: You focus on the fact that I genuinely do love you, 476 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 2: and I believe that you genuinely love me, and this 477 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: problem that we're facing is the problem. You're not the problem. 478 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: I'm not the problem. The problem is the problem. So 479 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 2: we're going to focus on our love. We're not going 480 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: to focus on this problem. We're not going to make 481 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 2: each other feel bad about ourselves because we're dealing with 482 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: this problem. We're going to keep our love at the 483 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: forefront of our relationship. When you do these things, friends, 484 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 2: you will notice emotional safety reappear in your marriage. Now, now, 485 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: I've thrown a lot at you today, and I mean, 486 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 2: there's so much I could probably write my next book 487 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 2: on how to create emotional safety, but I truncated it 488 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 2: down into a twenty five minute podcast episode. This might 489 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 2: be one of those episodes that you want to go 490 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: back and listen to again, that you want to take notes, 491 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: because I really believe it's not just in the hearing, 492 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: it's in the doing these things that you're going to 493 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: see your marriage become vibrant and safe again. So thanks 494 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 2: so much for listening. If you've not already pre ordered 495 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: your copy of Tried and True, you can do that 496 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: on my website at Danashay dot com for it slash 497 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 2: Tried and True. I would love for you to be 498 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 2: a part of the book launch again. I'm not sure 499 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: when you're listening to this podcast episode, if you're listening 500 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: in real time or later, but Tried and True is 501 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: always going to be available on my website, So go 502 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: on the website, look and see what's available to you now. 503 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: The book is out and it's everywhere that books are sold, 504 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: so be sure to get your copy today. Thank you 505 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: so much for listening. I will see you all on 506 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: the next episode. 507 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: Take care,