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Speaker 1: Life Audio. Well, welcome to today's Out of Zion podcast and

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, doctor Susan Michael, and I have with

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Speaker 1: getting to know into introducing him to you. His name

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Speaker 1: is Rabbi Michael Bayo and he is from Arizona. He's

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Speaker 1: the CEO of the East Valley Jewey Jewish the JCC,

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Speaker 1: and he's got a very interesting project that he's going

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Speaker 1: to share about. So thank you, Rabbi for being with us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me here. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: let's join Susan with your Israel answers.

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Speaker 1: So I'm very very interested in learning about your project,

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Speaker 1: but first I always like our audience to learn a

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Speaker 1: little bit about you. Personally, So tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit about your story.

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Speaker 2: So I was born in Italy, Italy. Yes, in Milano, Italy.

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Speaker 2: I've been born and raised in Italy. Lived in Italy

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Speaker 2: rough until was fifteen years old. I grew up in

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Speaker 2: a very orthodox Haredi alt Orthodox community, went to study.

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Speaker 2: Then after fifteen various rabbinical seminaries continued and in Israel.

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Speaker 2: Lived in Israel for over twenty years, maybe even more

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Speaker 2: than twenty, and then life brought me to the United

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Speaker 2: kept you, and that is what kept me here. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the original plan was to come here and do my

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Speaker 2: second master. I said, Okay, I'll take like a break

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Speaker 2: then and then I met my wife, that the person

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Speaker 2: what I do. It what I am so humbling to

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Speaker 1: For the twenty years you lived in Israel, what did

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Speaker 2: So for many of them, I was a student. I studied,

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Speaker 2: I went into business. My father was a toy manufacturer

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Speaker 2: And I've always been teaching, and I published books and

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Speaker 1: in Christianity a shepherd's heart for your flock. Are you

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Speaker 2: I'm the rabbi of the j c C. So we

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Speaker 1: And do you have some interfaith relationships?

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Speaker 2: I will share something as my new best friend. Many

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Speaker 2: He wanted to meet an Orthodox rabbi because all the

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Speaker 2: we met, because of my financial situation was very bad,

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Speaker 2: And and that happened a few times, number of times.

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Speaker 2: And I know that my friend is still my friend today.

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Speaker 2: His name is Ramsey. And I know that Ramsey did

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Speaker 2: in a strange turn of events, I became a better

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Speaker 2: More that for me was very meaningful and still meaningful

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Speaker 2: think that it's so important that that that I'm okay

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Speaker 1: And we never know some little thing like that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and and that has been very name fear for.

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Speaker 1: Me, wonderful. Well, thank you for sharing that. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: let's talk about your project. Ye, So you have started

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Speaker 1: a project called six million voices. Yes, that has that

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Speaker 1: brings with a lot of meaning. Sure, so tell us

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Speaker 2: So system Voices started as a way to teach about

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Speaker 2: How can we do that? And so we started by

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Speaker 2: that the user can really experience the meaning that is

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Speaker 2: beyond just the facts. What does it mean that the

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Speaker 2: people Crystallnacht. I put into that stories that my grandma

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Speaker 2: We reached the three hundred and fifty thousand individuals in

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Speaker 2: and we are continually doing that, and we have live sessions,

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Speaker 2: it's really engaging. We use pictures and videos and historians

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Speaker 2: And and then we realize, okay, we have something here

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Speaker 2: October seventh, I decided that I don't want to tell

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Speaker 2: so we have to tell those those meaningful stories that

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Speaker 2: despite the Holocaust. Jewish history is so rich the Judeo

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Speaker 2: how can we tell meaningful Bible stories that are impactful,

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Speaker 2: today's generation? And so that's what we do, and so

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Speaker 2: that's where we came here. It's my first time at

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Speaker 2: NRB to have those connections and see how we can

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Speaker 3: Let's take a break and hear a message from one

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Speaker 3: of our sponsors. Welcome back to the Auto Zion Podcast

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Speaker 3: with Susan Michael.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very important. You know a lot of

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Speaker 1: Christians that don't know Jewish people that have never been

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Speaker 1: to Israel. I know when I was a teenager when

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Speaker 1: I first went to Israel, but I had this idea

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Speaker 1: in my mind that Judaism was just a dead legalistic religion, right.

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Speaker 1: But by meeting Jewish people, especially in Israel, that was

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Speaker 1: my main place where I met them, I realize it's

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Speaker 1: a very alive face. It's not dead at all. And

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Speaker 1: even in Christianity, we have a sector that is a

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Speaker 1: dead legalistic approach, even of Christianity. So to meet someone

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Speaker 1: like you that your faith is so alive and and

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Speaker 1: it produces love and caring for people and this zeal

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Speaker 1: for life, that's what we want our Christian audience to meet.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's so wonderful that they get to meet

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Speaker 1: you today, But tell us a little bit more like,

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Speaker 1: how are you going to do this? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: So the reason that we came near to NRB is

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Speaker 2: to meet pastors, ministers, organizations like yours that each one

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Speaker 2: as a story to tell. You may want to tell

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Speaker 2: And it's not only by watching a YouTube video, but

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Speaker 1: Interesting, very interesting, very unique and innovative. And I can

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Speaker 1: that's beautiful. Well we we do, well, we pray slessing

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Speaker 1: And that's why we always we just encourage every Christian

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Speaker 2: With our solution. So you can be on the hillside

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Speaker 2: You see, but you also see what you looked like

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Speaker 1: That because I don't have the imagination to imagine the stories.

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Speaker 2: There, then now you can bring it on location.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, Rabbi Michael, it's been very nice talking to you,

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Speaker 1: and we do really wish God's blessings on your projects

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Speaker 1: bringing the Bible alive.

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