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Speaker 2: Straight ahead, everything you need to know about the top

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Speaker 2: Monday through Friday on that Heavin. Oh and now from

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Speaker 3: He is from New York. That Kevin is Kevin McCullough.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five was a good year for the McCullough family.

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Speaker 9: No, yeah, yeah, exactly, And we are in an epidemic

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Speaker 8: It's wild, Kevin.

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Speaker 8: Thanks, you got it.

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Speaker 1: Kevin mccalloch coming right back from New York. Don't go, why.

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Speaker 1: to find out. And they went and they helped him

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Speaker 1: find out. But don't you think it's odd that the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Socialists of America are demanding everything that the narco

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Speaker 1: people that have been crying for twenty seven years. That's

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Speaker 1: not a good look, guys. I'm just saying you might

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Speaker 1: want to do something about that, maybe sometime soon. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure nobody can really tell you what to do anyway,

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Speaker 1: because it's still.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 3: Here he is from New York. That Kevin Kevin mcause.

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Speaker 1: It's so much fun to have you with us. Someone

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Speaker 1: who's not been with me in quite some time. And

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Speaker 1: since our regular contributor here, Lou Bassinice, has just started

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Speaker 1: a new set of job responsibilities with Fox Business, I

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Speaker 1: thought it would be fun to bring in a couple

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Speaker 1: in for him. He will be back with us in February.

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Speaker 1: But Dave Fisher is someone who has been someone that

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Speaker 1: has helped me understand different parts of the investment arena

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Speaker 1: for quite some time, and his masualty happens to be

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Speaker 1: that of precious metals, and Dave, I thought about you

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Speaker 1: today when I'm listening to all the coverage, and this

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Speaker 1: is a very unique day that we have today because

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Speaker 1: you have the Dow at seven hundred, but you've also

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Speaker 1: got oil and gold ringing the bell like there's no

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Speaker 1: stopping them. I mean, this is a very big development

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Speaker 1: that the Maduro capture seems to have initiated here. But

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Speaker 1: you watch all the markets, You're keenly focused on the

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Speaker 1: metals market. How are they reacting to what's going on

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Speaker 1: with the arrest of the president the first lady.

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Speaker 10: Well, obviously, the Dow is up one point five percent,

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Speaker 10: which is fantastic for a day in the SMP and

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Speaker 10: the Nasdaq are up about half that, which is fantastic.

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Speaker 10: You think that's great, And I'm not anti stock. I

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Speaker 10: love the stock market in our country and the economy.

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Speaker 10: But gold and silver is rallying. Gold is up two

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Speaker 10: point six percent just today. Silver is up four point

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Speaker 10: six percent just today. And the numbers last year are staggering, Kevin,

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Speaker 10: The Dow went up thirteen percent, SMP sixteen percent, NAZDEK

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Speaker 10: twenty percent. Why I mean staggering. Gold went up sixty

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Speaker 10: five percent and silver one hundred and forty eight percent,

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Speaker 10: all because the dollar went down nine and a half percent.

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Speaker 10: You've done really well for yourself investing in gold and

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Speaker 10: silver with my company. Of course you take possession of it,

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Speaker 10: but thanks for having me. The numbers are staggering today.

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Speaker 10: I think we're going to continue to see more great

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Speaker 10: numbers than twenty twenty six in the metal markets.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's interesting to point out that when

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Speaker 1: I first met you just a few years ago, probably

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Speaker 1: ten years ago, gold was at the time about thirteen

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars an ounce, and today, even as I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the market at this moment, it's at forty four

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Speaker 1: four forty three announce, which means if you if you

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Speaker 1: had bought you know, ten years ago, you'd have a

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Speaker 1: three hundred percent return on what you invested in that

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Speaker 1: in that purchase at that time. Now we're not saying

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Speaker 1: that medals always do that, but Dave, you've talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about cycles with the economy and the way that

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Speaker 1: real estate and stock and commodity specifically medals all work together.

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Speaker 1: Does something like the arrest of Maduro and what we're

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Speaker 1: anticipating is going to be a flood of oil into

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Speaker 1: the economy. Is this is this something that's going to

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Speaker 1: have an aberrational effect on what's going on? How do

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Speaker 1: you judge what's going to happen here?

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Speaker 10: Well, wet's see actions of our government and a lot

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Speaker 10: of spending that we can't get under control. That President

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Speaker 10: Trump inherited under Biden. It's that the world doesn't want

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Speaker 10: to hold our debt. Because if you bought a one

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Speaker 10: year treasury bill, Kevin, and you didn't hold it to

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Speaker 10: duration of term, you'd be down sixty and a half percent.

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Speaker 10: So the world doesn't a hold our debt like they

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Speaker 10: used to. Things fall out of fashion, things come in fashion,

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Speaker 10: and gold and silver is like a light switch. When

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Speaker 10: the light switch turned on for gold and silver, historically

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Speaker 10: it runs a ten year cycle and it goes up

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Speaker 10: five to six hundred, five to six times and it

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Speaker 10: usually outperforms the stock market to three to one. And

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Speaker 10: I'm not again not against stocks, but the light switch

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Speaker 10: went on for gold and silver about two years ago,

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Speaker 10: we became in a major bowl market. It has a

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Speaker 10: lot to do with what's going on in Venezuela. There's

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Speaker 10: an entity called Bricks Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa.

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Speaker 10: That's a group that was formed in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 10: It's a movement to not use the dollar, and that's

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Speaker 10: why the dollar is down nine and a half percent.

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Speaker 10: This year is the biggest downturn of the dollars since

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Speaker 10: nineteen seventy three. We're going to see this a new trend.

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Speaker 10: That's why gold rallied sixty five percent, silver rally one

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Speaker 10: hundred and forty eight percent. The trend is now intact.

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Speaker 10: We're going to see these continuing movements. I'm not saying

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Speaker 10: fifty percent increase in silver, when I'm saying it's going

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Speaker 10: to perform really well and probably outperform the stock indexes

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Speaker 10: along with gold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I remember just a couple of years ago

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Speaker 1: you told me that within the next five years you

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Speaker 1: a few hundred dollars away from that. Now, now, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the rally that you see coming in this year.

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Speaker 1: You say that that gold and silver will continue. What

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Speaker 10: Well, President Trump and his administration have announcedaid they're going

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Speaker 10: to probably revalue gold. The government owns about eleven billion

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Speaker 10: dollars that they say at forty two dollars an ounce

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Speaker 10: for gold. Well, it's not forty two dollars. It's four

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Speaker 10: thousand plus dollars, so they've revalued gold before. When they

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Speaker 10: did this, gold jumped seventy percent overnight. It was nineteen

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Speaker 10: thirty four. The Federal Reserve did a white paper in

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Speaker 10: September last year saying there's six countries that have revalued gold,

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Speaker 10: and they believe the country is going to revalue gold again.

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Speaker 10: And this is not this conspiracy theory. As part of

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Speaker 10: the Congress the Bitcoin Act, specifically Section nine with explicity,

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Speaker 10: says that the Treasury is going to revalue the gold

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Speaker 10: holdings of the United States. It will cause a financial

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Speaker 10: system reset. Those analysts that are looking at this and

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Speaker 10: I'm not talking about gold bugs, I'm talking about analysts

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Speaker 10: outside of the gold industry or saying it would bring

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Speaker 10: one trillion up to five trillion dollars of the US

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Speaker 10: balance sheet immediately. It would help the United States, it

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Speaker 10: would put us on a structural path to solve our

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Speaker 10: independence on spending money, and it would puts in a

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Speaker 10: reset where the world would want to hold the dollar.

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Speaker 10: President Trump, he's all about gold. Look at his buildings,

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Speaker 10: look at his you know, going on enough time. But

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Speaker 10: I got him a white paper fresh off the Press

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Speaker 10: the Golden Era that has a silver lining that details

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Speaker 10: all this. It just came out last month and this

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Speaker 10: is what's going to cause a rally, amongst other things,

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Speaker 10: banks now being able to buy gold instead of buying treasuries.

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Speaker 10: So get that information, all right?

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that fresh white paper is available anybody that

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Speaker 1: would like a copy for free eight four four six

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Speaker 1: zero four two five seven five eight four four six

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Speaker 1: oh four two five seven five, Or you can go

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Speaker 1: to landmarkgold dot com and check it out there. Or

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Speaker 1: if you go back and get the podcast if you

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Speaker 1: missed any of this and rewrite it down. Eight four

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Speaker 1: four six o four two five seven five. David, Good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you, best wishes on a great day

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Speaker 1: in the Market's Kevin mccallach coming right back from Times Square.

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Speaker 11: I don't go away, stick around for more than Kevin next.

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Speaker 3: Serving it up. It's a no drink minimum. It's that

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Speaker 3: Canda show, all right.

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Speaker 1: Kevin mcconaugh, Glad to have you with us. Eight eight

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Speaker 1: Lots of other headlines breaking this afternoon. I got to

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Speaker 1: stop and ask about this though. I'm looking at Fox

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Speaker 1: News's homepage, and there on the front of it, you've

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Speaker 1: got a picture of Joe Biden shaking hands with Nicholas

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Speaker 1: Maduro and they are somewhere in person together and they

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Speaker 1: are laughing like it is the fourth of July. It's

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Speaker 1: it's just weird to me because mister Biden was critical

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Speaker 1: that President Trump had not been able to bring Maduro

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Speaker 1: in in his first term. By the way, you know

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Speaker 1: what did happen in mister Trump's first term, and again,

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Speaker 1: trying to keep the conversation elevated here he indicted Maduro.

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Speaker 1: Other presidents could have done that. George W. Bush could

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Speaker 1: have done that. Barack Obama could have done that. No,

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Speaker 1: I guess Bush couldn't have because I guess it just

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Speaker 1: I guess Chavez was in when Bush was in. But

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Speaker 1: Obama could have done it. Trump did it. Biden put

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Speaker 1: a twenty five million dollar bounty on his head. But

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Speaker 1: here he is in this picture just yucking it up.

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Speaker 1: And then he comes out like all the other Democrats

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Speaker 1: did on Saturday, criticizing being critical. Oh and the funniest

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Speaker 1: one was Kamala Harris. What he's done is illegal. There

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Speaker 1: are people saying he needs to be impeached and all.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's the most surreal thing. Just scroll through

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Speaker 1: news pages and then social media by side, because in

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Speaker 1: my feed on Instagram all weekend it was nothing but

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Speaker 1: Venezuelan young people kissing the camera, blowing kisses to the camera,

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Speaker 1: thank you President Trump, thank you President Trump, running around

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Speaker 1: with their flag, flying their flag, and then like and

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Speaker 1: then the next story in the feed is, you know,

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Speaker 1: these grumpy, grouchy looking people from New York City, like

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Speaker 1: ten of them pulling off a protest, all with perfectly

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Speaker 1: produced signs. I don't know where they got those signs from,

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Speaker 1: but man, did they get those ordered quick?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And there and then I saw this one post where

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Speaker 1: where there are protesters and he goes, is there are

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Speaker 1: there any Venezuelans here? And he's asking, are you Venezuelan?

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Speaker 1: Are you? And in the whole crowd that are supposedly

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Speaker 1: it or something. It wasn't in New York, was in

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Speaker 1: another place. But he goes, none of you are Venezuelan.

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Speaker 1: And he was asking in Spanish and in English. He

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Speaker 1: was trying to see if there was anybody there, anybody there,

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Speaker 1: just one out of the hundreds that were gathered, if

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Speaker 1: they were actually Venezuela. No, all people channing to put

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Speaker 1: Maduro back in power not Venezuelan. And you probably figured

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Speaker 1: out why he displaced close to eight million people through

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Speaker 1: the following seizing of their private property, seizing of their businesses,

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Speaker 1: consolidating all public quote resources. Well, if you think about it,

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Speaker 1: in New York City, Mayor Mamdani wants to seize real estate,

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Speaker 1: he wants to consolidate grocery stores. He wants to do

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Speaker 1: the very things in the early early stages that these

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Speaker 1: guys always do. And he calls that warm collectivism. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to have a little chat about that

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Speaker 1: it's not. Plus next hour, we will speak with Josh

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Speaker 1: on Monday Monday continues Hillary Kramer back with us on

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Speaker 1: For this Monday, it's Kevin McCalla. It's that Kevin Show.

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Speaker 2: and Now from the Connors in Sullivan Poadcast Studios. The

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Speaker 10: Here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome in hour number two. Happy New Year, January five.

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Speaker 1: I know we were with you on Friday, but I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm pushing for a soft new federal law. No more

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Speaker 1: I am getting some interesting email on a regular basis

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Speaker 1: from those of you listening now, and I'm grateful. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We we've dealt with some of it on the air.

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Speaker 1: If we get enough, maybe we can start doing you know,

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Speaker 1: listener feedback. UH do an email section. But if there's

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Joshua Trevino from America First Policy Institutes

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Speaker 1: going to join us to give us some of the

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Speaker 1: Western Hemisphere significance. Uh to what taking Maduro into custody means.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that the President has emphasized, and

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Speaker 1: we've covered it a little bit on this show, which

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Speaker 1: country has. But the importance of protecting the Western Hemisphere

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Speaker 1: is key to protecting America and not letting evil get

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Speaker 1: a foothold on these continents that are our neighbors, in

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Speaker 1: countries that are our neighbors is of vital importance, not

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Speaker 1: to start forever wars. No, we don't like forever wars.

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Speaker 1: And I still think it's hilarious that people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he stopped the war in Venezuela. They did about forty

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Speaker 1: eight minutes after it started. It was done so because

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a war. It was a police action, and

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Speaker 1: we used the military in support of our law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: And now we got an indicted criminal who went to

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Speaker 1: the courthouse today and said I am not a crook. No,

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Speaker 1: that was Richard Nixon. He said, I am innocent, I'm

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Speaker 1: a kidnapped president. Well you must have been a terrible

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Speaker 1: not even that. Well, what's what's that? What's that scene

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Speaker 1: in The Princess Bride when Billy Crystal and I forget

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Speaker 1: the name of the actress that's with him, but he's

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Speaker 1: he's he's Miracle Max and he's trying to miracle the paralyzed.

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Speaker 1: Uh pirate read pirate Roberts and uh what comes out?

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Speaker 1: I'm not a witch, I'm your wife. And after what

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Speaker 1: you just said, I'm not sure I want to be

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Speaker 1: that anymore. I can just see, like missus Maduro, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a crook, I'm your wife, and I definitely don't

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Speaker 1: want to do that anymore. Starting starting up today, and

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Speaker 1: they're in, they're in like you know, the pokey in Brooklyn,

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Speaker 1: Like they're not there, and they're not in, They're not

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Speaker 1: in any cushy cell like I think they're you know,

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Speaker 1: just in the general population, which is uh. And they

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Speaker 1: were even this was the other funny thing. When he

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Speaker 1: that were booing him when they saw him come in,

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Speaker 1: Like this guy is not wanted or liked anywhere except

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Speaker 1: for the Mayor's office zoron Mumdani in New York City.

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Speaker 1: But I want to delve into this because I think

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Speaker 1: that there's a very good cautionary tale happening here. The

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Speaker 1: lie that socialism always tells before it tells the truth.

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Speaker 1: The lie is that it's warm, that it's compassionate, that

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Speaker 1: it cares more deeply, or feels more tenderly, or governs

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Speaker 1: more humanely than any system that's rooted in liberty. It

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Speaker 1: promises cradle to grave security, shared sacrifice, moral superiority, all

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Speaker 1: in exchange for just a little bit of freedom, just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of property. But eventually it swallows all

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Speaker 1: of it up and takes your independence. The truth comes late,

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Speaker 1: it always does, and today that truth no longer governs

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Speaker 1: from a palace in Caracas. It sits behind bars in

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Speaker 1: the United States, wearing shackles instead of his colorful sash Maduro,

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Speaker 1: the strong man who followed Chavez in the revolution, now

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Speaker 1: no longer presides over anything. He's rotting in custody. He's

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Speaker 1: been before the judge. He waived the speedy trial right,

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Speaker 1: which means he has to sit there until March seventeenth

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Speaker 1: for his next hearing. The leader who vowed dignity enforced fear,

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Speaker 1: the architect of collectivists' care, left millions desperate, displaced, and

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Speaker 1: dead and friends. This isn't an anomaly. It's the inevitable

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Speaker 1: end of the ideology. And here's where Americans have to

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Speaker 1: resist the temptation to look away smugly and say, well,

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Speaker 1: that could never happen here, Because the same moral language,

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Speaker 1: the same ideological dna, the same authoritarian impulses, just got

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Speaker 1: elected in New York City. Better suits and softer smiles.

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Speaker 1: But Zoron Mundani. He may be new to the game,

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Speaker 1: but his ambitions are the same. And private property, confiscate

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Speaker 1: personal wealth for the collective good, centralized power, demonized dissent, criminalized,

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Speaker 1: success in silence, opposition, different stage, same play, It's all

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Speaker 1: the same everything Maduro did. Maduro didn't start out as

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Speaker 1: a cartoon villain. He did not campaign on starvation or

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Speaker 1: prison cells. He said the same thing. Chavez said equity

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Speaker 1: and justice and promised to make the wealthy pay their

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Speaker 1: fair share. He promised to put the state in charge

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Speaker 1: so that the people could finally be free. But the

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Speaker 1: problem is when the state's in charge, no one's free.

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Speaker 1: He crushed businesses, he nationalized industry, He rigged elections, he

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Speaker 1: silenced journalists, he jailed opponents. He weaponized the police and

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Speaker 1: the military against the civilians. That's what he did. And Venezuela,

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Speaker 1: sitting atop the largest proven oil reserves on Earth, collapse

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Speaker 1: into one of the worst peacetime economic disasters in modern history.

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Speaker 1: Eight million people had to leave, currency evaporated, hospitals, emptied, children, starved.

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Speaker 1: That is what collectivism completed. The American left likes to say, well,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't real socialism. But this excuse collapses under the

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Speaker 1: casual scrutiny. Socialism cannot survive without coercion. It demands compliance

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Speaker 1: because people do not voluntarily surrender their labor, savings, property

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Speaker 1: or speech indefinitely. When resistance emerges, as it always does,

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Speaker 1: the state responds with force. And it ain't a bug,

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Speaker 1: it's a feature. Mamdani is the ideological ally of Maduro,

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Speaker 1: and he's calling what he wants to bring to New

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Speaker 1: York warm collectivism, the same speak that Maduro did, speaking

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Speaker 1: of housing as a human right and wealth redistribution and

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Speaker 1: ending exploitation. It all sounds wonderful, except it's all a lie.

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Speaker 1: It's none of it is what he calls it, and

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Speaker 1: that's the problem. Find out a little bit more about

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Speaker 1: the impact on the Western hemisphere. Coming up next. Joshua

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Speaker 1: Trevino joins me from the America First Policy Institute. My

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Speaker 1: name's Kevin McCullough. My phone number eight eight eight six

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Speaker 1: nine two seven two three four.

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Speaker 3: Here he is from New York. That Kevin mccullaugh.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, Tim Square that Kevin show, that

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Speaker 1: kevinshow dot com for everything related, including the podcast proud

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Speaker 1: have the information information from people like my next guest,

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Speaker 1: who runs the Western Hemisphere Initiative for the America First

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Speaker 1: Policy Institute, one of the favorites of the thing tanks

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Speaker 1: that are trying to advance American ideals, American priorities, American interests.

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Speaker 1: His name is Josh Travino. He's also co authored a

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Speaker 1: piece at National Review that is well worth reading related

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Speaker 1: to the all too started and then stopped war in Venezuela. Josh,

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Speaker 1: it's good to have you with us at that Kevin show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for being.

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Speaker 4: Here, Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: It was really funny this past weekend to watch all

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Speaker 1: of the left literally melt down. They had their pre

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Speaker 1: made signs ready to go, soundbites were cued up, everybody

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Speaker 1: had their quotes. The only problem was there were eight

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Speaker 1: million Venezuelans that had been placed all over the world

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Speaker 1: that broke out in the streets and saying the praises

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Speaker 1: of America and President Trump. And now there's so many

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Speaker 1: people that are so grateful that Venezuela is kind of

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Speaker 1: done with this cancer that has been Chavez and Maduro

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Speaker 1: back to back. You cover the Western hemisphere. You're focused

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Speaker 1: on the Western hemisphere. We did this entirely for reasons

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Speaker 1: related to our position and the Western hemispheres, you know,

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Speaker 1: future and well being. But what's the most important accomplishment

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Speaker 1: in all of this to you? What do you take

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Speaker 1: away going we do that, or else we were going

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Speaker 1: to be really doomed.

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Speaker 12: I mean, the most important achievement is on the American side, obviously,

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Speaker 12: and not just because this is an American operation that

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Speaker 12: got the dictator Maduro out of Venezuela and facing justice

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Speaker 12: in New York City right now, ironic given who's running

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Speaker 12: New York City, but it's a great place communists on trial. Look,

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Speaker 12: you know what President Trump is done is is reoriented

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Speaker 12: the American armed forces and the governance of the United

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Speaker 12: States toward the defense of Americans in American communities. And

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Speaker 12: one of the reasons that President Trump was for selected

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Speaker 12: in twenty sixteen and is still president today is because

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Speaker 12: Americans saw a generation's worth of the squandering of American

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Speaker 12: power and places around the world that didn't necessarily have

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Speaker 12: a well articulated connection to American well being, American national defense,

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Speaker 12: and there has been an understanding for years on left

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Speaker 12: and right, but more on the right than the left

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Speaker 12: for reasons.

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Speaker 4: We can get into that.

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Speaker 12: The most acute threat to American communities that has killed

863
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 12: Americans where we live in the most literal sense and

864
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 12: literally invaded our territory in terms of human trafficking and

865
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 12: cartel operations and so on, has been this left cartel

866
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 12: nexus operating out of Latin America. Venezuela is not the

867
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Speaker 12: only example of it, but it's the one that roase

868
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 12: the top because it was a particularly malicious and threatening

869
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 12: example of a narco state, a leftist narco state that

870
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Speaker 12: engage the Russians, the Chinese, and the Iranians in a

871
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 12: variety of spheres, and that's why we took them out first.

872
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 4: I don't think it's going to be the last one.

873
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 12: I'll echo what the Secretary of State said on the

874
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 12: Sunday Shows yesterday, which's totally right about, which is that

875
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 12: Latin America is not the Middle East. Latin America is

876
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 12: to varying degrees, but it's part of the West. There's

877
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 12: a cultural consonants, and there's an ability to affect change

878
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 12: there that doesn't exist in a place like Mesopotamia, for example,

879
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 12: and so and so, you know, we have to enter into.

880
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: These things with two realizations.

881
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 12: One is that we don't have a choice because this

882
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 12: is literally next door, it is close to home, and

883
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 12: so we have to act for the defense of our.

884
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 4: Nation in our communities.

885
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 12: But the other part of it is that we can

886
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 12: we can have some optimism in the outcomes. You know,

887
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 12: this is a rational act by the Trump administration. And

888
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 12: what I want to point out that I think indicates

889
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 12: that the Trump administration has learned the lessons of the

890
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 12: past generation is that the Americans are still offshore in Venezuela.

891
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 12: We rated Caracas on January third, but we got our

892
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 12: man and we left. And what's interesting now is that

893
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 12: the power is projected from a constellation of bases and

894
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 12: vessels that are not actually in Venezuela proper. And that

895
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 12: is a big, big change from what you would have

896
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Speaker 12: seen in the nineteen nineties, certainly in the early two thousands.

897
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 12: And I think it is suggestive of a new prudence

898
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 12: in the American engagement of for US, which is all

899
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 12: to the good.

900
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: There's a lot of concern, at least in the people

901
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: that I'm speaking with about the remnants of the cartel

902
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: that are deeply embedded in Venezuela. You've cut off the

903
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: head here, but even the vice president who is now

904
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: the interim leader, had to be chided by President Trump

905
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: on some level to play ball, like get with the

906
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Speaker 1: program and go along with the good stuff, or there's

907
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Speaker 1: going to be further consequence. Do you think that the

908
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: cartels play weight and see gain to see how many

909
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 1: cards Trump will play?

910
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right.

911
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 12: Look there, the cartels and the leftists that allie with

912
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 12: them are very intelligent.

913
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 4: They're very canny.

914
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 13: You know.

915
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 12: One of the things that I have said repeatedly in

916
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 12: the context of a lot of the Mexican not Venezuelan,

917
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 12: but the Mexican cartel and state operators, is that they

918
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 12: can't you know, they can't deliver clean water, but they

919
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 12: can certainly, you know, fend off the Americans for long periods.

920
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 12: That's exactly what the remnants of Venezuelan regime are going

921
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 12: to do. Delci Rodriguez, interestingly enough, is saying one thing

922
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 12: in Spanish today and she's saying another thing in English

923
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 12: and English, she's being very conciliatory and Spanish. She is

924
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 12: essentially continuing the war rhetoric versus the United States.

925
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: Does she not.

926
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Speaker 1: Believe that we have people that are bilingual in America?

927
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 3: Well so will.

928
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 12: I will not defend her, but I will say that

929
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 12: there's a rational there is a rational calculus there. If

930
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 12: you have been used to years of the Biden regime

931
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 12: and the Obama regime and even preceding that, the George W.

932
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 12: Bush regime, and you are a narco autocrat in Latin America,

933
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 12: would you believe that the Americans are going to take

934
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 12: this seriously?

935
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 3: Now?

936
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 12: You should after Friday Night in Caracas. But I think

937
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 12: there's some lessons that are going to have to be

938
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 12: re emphasized. But to your point, we are paying attention.

939
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 12: Some of us have been paying attention for quite a

940
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Speaker 12: long time now, and so the question is going to be,

941
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 12: you know, are we going to bring consequences? I think

942
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 12: the answer is probably yes, which is a change. It's

943
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 12: a change that's much needed. But they're going to have

944
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 12: to be reminded more than once.

945
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: How deeply embedded or connected or aligned are the cartels

946
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: from the northern section of the Americas, say Mexico and

947
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: Central America, all the way south into South America, because

948
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: it does seem like these cartels have long, almost untraceable

949
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: fingers into different regions, and yet they have conducted operations

950
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: that would parallel any military operation, many many times, taking

951
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: out their enemies, perpetrating attacks against our own border, getting

952
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: things into the US like fentanyl that does kill Americans,

953
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: and the hundreds of thousands per year. How much of

954
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: a kind of regional problem is this that doesn't really

955
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: operate necessarily in and amongst the governments.

956
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 12: It is well, I mean, I think you've described it

957
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 12: very well. It is absolutely a regional problem, and it's

958
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 12: one that extends beyond the region.

959
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 4: The reach of the various cartels.

960
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 12: And obviously there's more than one, but their networks go

961
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 12: into Europe, Africa, Asia, There's no corner of the world

962
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 12: that they don't reach into in some fashion, and so

963
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 12: we have to understand that. We also have to understand

964
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 12: that the reason they are a threat now in ways

965
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 12: that they weren't, say, in the nineteen nineties nineteen eighties,

966
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 12: is because of the development of this state cartel synthesis

967
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 12: that on my end, we've been talking about in both

968
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 12: the Texas Public Policy Foundation and the American Policy Institute, these.

969
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 4: Are government backed actors.

970
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 12: That's true in Venezuela, it's true in Mexico, it's true

971
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 12: in Cuba, and it's true throughout a lot of the region.

972
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 12: And so disentangling those cartels from their state sponsors, from

973
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 12: the state partners in many cases is really the strategic

974
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 12: work that needs to be done. And I will tell you,

975
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 12: without betraying confidences and policy conversations, that I'm very heartened

976
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 12: to see that the Trump administration understands that very clearly

977
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 12: and is acting accordingly.

978
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: That is a good word. Josh Travino is who we're

979
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: speaking with America First Policy Institute. He heads up the

980
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: Western Hemisphere Initiative and has done so for quite some time.

981
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: He's got a great piece up at National Review that

982
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: I'd like you to look at as well. Josh, let

983
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: me ask you about those state actors in the final

984
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: minute that we have, because when we're talking about Iran, Russia,

985
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: and China, these are all in Hesbola. We're talking about

986
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: all the people that have threatened US, or threatened action

987
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: against US, or been hostile towards us or worked against

988
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: our interests aggressively across the globe. Does US being in

989
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: control of Venezuela's oil chain changed that dynamic? That what

990
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: is there? What what immediate impact does it have on

991
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 1: the conversation of the actual military powers that that have

992
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: some muscle behind it.

993
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, this is this is what remains to be seen.

994
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 12: We we are asserting our interest, our legitimate interest in

995
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 12: Venezuelan commodities, at the top of the list of that,

996
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 12: of course being being the oil and the petroleum in Venezuela. UH,

997
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 12: and I have every reason to believe the President is

998
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 12: going to make sure that we follow through on that.

999
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 12: It significantly, to your question, changes the conversation among a

1000
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 12: variety of individuals, powerholders military, UH, powerholders in particular throughout

1001
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 12: the region in Venezuela and external to it.

1002
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 4: But you know to the extent that it shifts, that

1003
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 4: it shifts it in our favor.

1004
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 12: There's a recognition that only the United States is in

1005
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 12: a power to arbitrate and essentially to dictate what happens

1006
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 12: with these resources. And so you know that's that's that's

1007
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 12: all for the good. Just imagine if you would five

1008
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 12: years ago today. If somebody had told you that the

1009
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 12: United States would control patrolling introduction from Point Barrow.

1010
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 4: To Caracas, nobody would have believed you.

1011
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 12: But but we do now, and a significant strategic improvement

1012
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 12: in the American.

1013
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: Position, and given what we're facing with China and AI,

1014
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: we need every drop. Josh Travino of the America First

1015
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: Policy Institute, thank you for all that you're doing. We

1016
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

1017
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1018
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, coming right back from Times Square, we got

1019
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: a lot more straight ahead. Stick around for more of that.

1020
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 13: Kevin next here he is from New York, That Kevin.

1021
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 13: Kevin McCullough.

1022
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,959
Speaker 1: All right, So there's a little bit of a more

1023
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: educated view there from Joshua Trevino at America First Policy Institute.

1024
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: But as you can see, and this is this is

1025
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: one of the things that bothers me about this is

1026
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: this is one of the things that bothers me about this.

1027
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: You have several different administrations, Republican and Democrat for that matter,

1028
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: from the Bushes to the Clintons, to the Obamas, to

1029
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: the Bushes to Biden, that all kind of thought, well,

1030
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: it's not really our place to, you know, to intervene Okay,

1031
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: so you intervene in Afghanistan, rightfully so after the aftermath

1032
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: of nine to eleven to try to hold people accountable

1033
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: for what they did to us. But you never acknowledge

1034
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: that the fentanyl and the cocaine and the stuff that

1035
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: is coming from Venezuela is killing Well, if we lost

1036
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 1: twenty eight hundred people on nine to eleven, then one

1037
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: hundred times that per year in fentanyl and cocaine deaths.

1038
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: And we're not we don't we talk. Mean, Wow, he's

1039
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: a bad guy. Somebody should do something about that. Yeah,

1040
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna send strongly worded letters and we're gonna shut

1041
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: down consulate offices in the US. Oh, that'll show them

1042
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: no more ambassadors for them. Like that's the extent of

1043
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: what all those previous administrations did. And Trump in his

1044
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: first term said, this is a bad guy. He's broken

1045
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: US law, he's killed US citizens. We're gonna indict him.

1046
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: So they did. They indicted him, and now we've gone

1047
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: and gotten him. He's already been in the courtroom for

1048
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: the first time, and now because of his own choice,

1049
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna rot longer until March for even

1050
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 1: his second hearing because he waved. He waved, Maduro waived

1051
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: the right to a speedy trial. He's like, fine, just

1052
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: put me, just let me rot. Okay. So and friends,

1053
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: I cannot get away. I said this earlier in the show.

1054
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: I cannot get away from the side by side comparison

1055
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: of a Marxist in Maduro and a Marxist in Mam

1056
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: Donnie in the same city at the same time, coming

1057
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: within days of each other to their current situation and

1058
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: Mom Donnie and his acceptance speech on what Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday,

1059
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: the day before this happened, says we're going to reject

1060
01:04:53,840 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: rugged individualism for the warmth, for the embrace of the

1061
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:05,479
Speaker 1: warmth of collectivism. And I've talked a little bit about

1062
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: what that collectivism looks like. But it's, you know, seizing

1063
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: private property. It's crushing industry. Forget about small businesses surviving.

1064
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: Now everything just belongs to the state. And whoever the

1065
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: state deems worthy enough to be thought of as a friend.

1066
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 1: They show you the kindness of letting you have stuff

1067
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: instead of it being something that you've earned through merit

1068
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: and through effort and through hard work. And friends, I've

1069
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: had so many different supposed Christians over the years, try

1070
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: to debate socialism with me. That alone, what Marxism does

1071
01:05:54,960 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: to the development of enterprise fundamentally, biblically violates God's intent

1072
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: in a way that it should forever neutralize it. You

1073
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: cannot be a Bible believing Christian and say that Marxism

1074
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: and socialism are the greater good. You can't do that.

1075
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: The Bible says you pay the workmen the worth of

1076
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Speaker 1: his hire. The Bible says if someone doesn't work, they

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Speaker 1: should not eat. There's all kinds of instructions of what

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Speaker 1: it means to be an employer or an overseer and

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Speaker 1: to be generous to those who are doing the work

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Speaker 1: under you. But the idea of taking someone's labor and

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Speaker 1: the fruit of that labor from them and saying you

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Speaker 1: do the work, we reap the benefit. That's the same

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Speaker 1: as slavery. Both are abhorrent in the Biblical context. And

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Speaker 1: the problem is the decision makers. Who decides, who decides

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Speaker 1: how much wealth is too much, Who decides which property

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Speaker 1: is okay to be seized and which property isn't, Who

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Speaker 1: decides which opinions are dangerous and must be manipulated by

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Speaker 1: the state, And who decides when compliance is mandatory because

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Speaker 1: you don't get socialism. We can't fund, for instance, Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: our last attempt at socialism. We can't fund it without

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Speaker 1: mandating the entire country be involved in it. That's forced compliance.

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Speaker 1: That's a gun to your head saying you're gonna do

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Speaker 1: this or else, and it doesn't work because you don't

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Speaker 1: have the resources to do it without that forced compliance.

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Speaker 1: Maduro never took into account the Venezuelan people's voices, especially

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Speaker 1: in the last election that he lost two to one

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Speaker 1: and stayed in power. And Mamdannie, is that the same

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Speaker 1: starting line that Maduro was just a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: He's not an innocent reformer playing with harmless ideas. He

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Speaker 1: wants to seize grocery stores. He wants to seize private property,

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Speaker 1: people's personal apartments. He and if you don't like it,

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Speaker 1: silencing is on the way, and that precedes the force

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Speaker 1: doing it by force. Two peas in a pod, Maduro

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Speaker 1: and Mamdani. So it's here, friends, it's it's problem eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight six nine two seven two three four. It's

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Speaker 1: that Kevin show.

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Speaker 3: Here he is from New York, That Kevin Kevin McCullough.

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Speaker 1: All right, Kevin McCullough, like, have you with us? And

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Speaker 1: on Monday, you know, we check in on what's going

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Speaker 1: on money wise, and always, always, always geopolitical events of

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Speaker 1: huge nature impact markets, They impact how people are feeling

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Speaker 1: about what their investments are doing, etc. And Hillary Kramer

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Speaker 1: is back with us from Hillary Kramer dot com. And

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Speaker 1: might I just add the number one stockpicker on Charles

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Speaker 1: Pain's show this year with the winning number one stock

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Speaker 1: of Scan disc that did this six hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: one percent on the return after Hillary picked it. Hillary,

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Speaker 1: congratulations on being the twenty twenty five number one stockpicker.

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Speaker 1: But let me just tell you when I heard that

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Speaker 1: this morning, it didn't surprise me in the least. I

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Speaker 1: was like, of course Hillary was number one, She's always

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Speaker 1: number one.

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Speaker 7: Well, it was really an honor and I am thrilled

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Speaker 7: that I could make people money. That's my game, that's

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Speaker 7: your aim as well. Our objective is to really make

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Speaker 7: sure that all of you out there who are investing

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Speaker 7: are investing the right way in stocks, so that you

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Speaker 7: don't have to be feeling like, hey, I'm just a

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Speaker 7: little guy investing. No, you should be the big guy investing.

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Speaker 7: And we can tell you how to do that. I'll

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Speaker 7: be back on Charles's show tomorrow with some really important

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Speaker 7: stock picks for twenty twenty six. So doing six hundred

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Speaker 7: and fifty percent plus, I had talenteer and open and

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Speaker 7: a number of stocks that were awesome more than one

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Speaker 7: hundred percent winners. And look, we've had three great years

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Speaker 7: in the stock market. But it's a real stock pickers market.

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Speaker 7: It's not a market where you can just buy the

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Speaker 7: S and B five hundred and win. It's going to

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Speaker 7: get tougher and tougher to do that. So you want

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Speaker 7: to be looking for the right stocks to buy.

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Speaker 1: Well before you go on Charles's show and tell them

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Speaker 1: all about it, tell us about some of them. What

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Speaker 1: are your top picks for twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 7: Well, you still love Roku. Roku allows the viewer to

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Speaker 7: be able to stream all of the different applications to

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Speaker 7: be able to binge watching your favorite shows from The

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Speaker 7: Stranger Things to The Guilded Years. You can you can

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Speaker 7: actually look at Roku as a depressed stock and uh,

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Speaker 7: I think that it's peak. You know, twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 7: we're going to see a new peak in Rokus. Who

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Speaker 7: are okay? You look, we used to have a walled

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Speaker 7: garden and you had to use Apple TV only really

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Speaker 7: to be able to get in and be able to

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Speaker 7: to to stream it all. Now you can use Roku.

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Speaker 7: But let me move on because I want to get

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Speaker 7: to some some even better companies. Now that not that

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Speaker 7: Roku isn't, but I don't want to run out of time,

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Speaker 7: which I always do with you.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 7: And then we have a we have a Carvana cv NA. Right,

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Speaker 7: it's the bay, the eBay of car sales, and it's

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Speaker 7: going going past, you know, having inventory. And so Carvan

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Speaker 7: has changed its model, which is that, Okay, I'm sitting

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Speaker 7: on a twenty twenty five Lexus TX three point fifty.

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Speaker 7: I can put that in with Carvana. So when there's

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Speaker 7: demand for my car, or there's an interest in when

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Speaker 7: wants that car, they can match us up and say, hey,

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Speaker 7: are you interested in selling? And this is revolutionary, it's

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Speaker 7: so interesting. It's so basic really, but yet it's going

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Speaker 7: to take Carvana cv NA to new heights. And for

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Speaker 7: anyone who's thinking, what is Carvana? Remember those commercials where

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Speaker 7: you put the put the little coin in the in

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Speaker 7: what should be a bubblegum machine and a car comes out.

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Speaker 1: The vending machine car company, but they've gone way past that,

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Speaker 1: and in fact, I'm a proud double Carvana purchaser over

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Speaker 1: the last four years partly because of what they've done.

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Speaker 1: So I will tell you they keep their word. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: you've got.

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Speaker 7: Some cstomer service. Yes, I'm open as an open house. Ope,

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Speaker 7: And this is a new way of the mold being

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Speaker 7: broken in terms of brokerage and selling your house. What

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Speaker 7: you can do is you can go to Open and

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Speaker 7: say I want to buy my house and they'll make

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Speaker 7: an offer right there and then now it might be

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Speaker 7: a discount to where houses have sold in your neighborhood,

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Speaker 7: but you can walk away and get a check the

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Speaker 7: next day and not have to deal with changing that

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Speaker 7: roof and making repairs. And Open has a new CEO

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Speaker 7: that came in this year. And it's the economy. You

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Speaker 7: have any kind of blip, and remember everything is cyclical,

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Speaker 7: and I keep saying that week after week we can't

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Speaker 7: always go up. Sometimes we have to go down. And

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Speaker 7: when the United States is engaging in long term planning

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Speaker 7: right to maintain our powerful and secure borders and capitalism

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Speaker 7: that's thriving, it means that there might be blips downwards

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Speaker 7: in order to have the better long term economy. So

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Speaker 7: what you want to realize is that people might be

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Speaker 7: looking at selling their house. They're those that get scared.

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Speaker 7: Remember the market, it's driven by fear and greed. Fear

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Speaker 7: and greed has been greed for a long time. When

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Speaker 7: that market's pressed to drop, people go, oh my god,

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Speaker 7: I got to sell my house. What am I going

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Speaker 7: to do? Now? Here's another one. I love Aero Environment

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Speaker 7: av AV. This is a drone company. Aero Environment does

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Speaker 7: drones for the defense industry, and we're going to see

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Speaker 7: defense be stronger than el ever, which is also why

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Speaker 7: I love EESLT, which is Elbit Systems, which started doing

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Speaker 7: cockpit upgrades and now has entire divisions dedicated to drones.

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Speaker 7: Drones that have incredible reconnaissance abilities, drones that actually engage

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Speaker 7: in warfare and keep our soldiers safe. If you can

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Speaker 7: tend a drone out there to do what it needs

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Speaker 7: to do rather than a pilot or boots on the ground.

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Speaker 7: And then we all so like a data center company,

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Speaker 7: hi ve Hive very profitable. Many of these data centers,

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Speaker 7: most in fact, aren't profitable, and Hive is extremely profitable.

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Speaker 7: So we love that. And then let me just very

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Speaker 7: quickly jump to one last Israeli company back to where

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Speaker 7: the Elbits are. Elbit is Israeli, and that's cyber Arc

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Speaker 7: at cyb R has not kept pace with the importance

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Speaker 7: of the company, which is security and security and also

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Speaker 7: preventing and stopping any kind of infringement on your data.

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Speaker 7: And it might be data that is in a server,

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Speaker 7: data and it might be end user. But we have

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Speaker 7: to really be wary of cyber security and keep really

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Speaker 7: careful on that one, especially because wars are going to

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Speaker 7: be thought. You know, everyone's waiting for the next shoot

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Speaker 7: to drop since September eleventh, two thousand and one. But

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Speaker 7: then shoot at drops might be you know, a cybersecurity event.

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Speaker 7: I mean we've had them, but I'm saying a widespread

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Speaker 7: one in companies like cyber v Company states.

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Speaker 1: You may be well right there, Hillary friends, If you

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Speaker 1: email and Hillary, Happy New Year. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: again next week. Kevin McCullough coming right back.

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Speaker 5: Next serving it up with a new drink mittal.

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Speaker 3: It's that Kevin show.

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Speaker 1: Friends. I'm just so thankful to get to spend today

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Speaker 1: with you and every day, and I just hope that

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Speaker 1: you know, we can continue to have these important conversations

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Speaker 1: as twenty twenty six goes on. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: an important year, a huge year in so many different ways,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like that we have to think clearly

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Speaker 1: about what we're facing. And it's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why this weekend was so paramount in terms of its importance.

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Speaker 1: Maduro being taken into custody and being held accountable for,

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Speaker 1: you know, the deaths and the killing and the drugs

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Speaker 1: and the violence he's attempted against the United States is

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Speaker 1: a just It's a just reward for his actions. The

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Speaker 1: fact that he's being held for trial for all those

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Speaker 1: things in a city where the mayor believes so many

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Speaker 1: of the same things that Maduro does is really ironic.

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Speaker 1: And I hope that my listeners in New York understand.

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Speaker 1: I don't say that with any kind of you know

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Speaker 1: prejudicial bias. I want New York to thrive. But this

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Speaker 1: is the ideas matter, and the problem is socialism and

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Speaker 1: Marxism and communism. It always assumes virtue in its establishing

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Speaker 1: of its system without accountability. Free markets establish accountability into

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Speaker 1: the system on some level. If something doesn't work, it doesn't,

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Speaker 1: it's not successful. But socialism assumes virtue. It doesn't say

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Speaker 1: that it's neutral and that the system itself will prove

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Speaker 1: whether it's good or bad. It assumes that the people

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Speaker 1: that are implementing it are always good, and history assumes otherwise,

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Speaker 1: and the Biblical truth assumes otherwise. This is why socialism's

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Speaker 1: ledger is written mostly in just mass graves and prison

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Speaker 1: camps and refugee columns. Venezuela is only the most recent

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Speaker 1: country that has experienced that. But the difference now is

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Speaker 1: that its chief author is finally removed from the page,

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Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe the Colombian leader, maybe the Cuban

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Speaker 1: leader will be following them. Is not a distortion of socialism,

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Speaker 1: he's its embodiment. He's the logical conclusion of where it leads.

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Speaker 1: And Mamdani is not an innocent reformer playing with these

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Speaker 1: ideas that seem harmless. He is standing at the same

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Speaker 1: ideological starting line. He just hasn't performed seizures or done

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Speaker 1: the silencing or used force yet. He hasn't gone there yet.

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Speaker 1: But they don't ever do that immediately. That comes later.

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Speaker 1: And if Americans fail to recognize this pattern, if we

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Speaker 1: continue mistaking control for compassion and coercion for care, we

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Speaker 1: may one day discover that the warmth we were promised

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Speaker 1: was nothing more than the heat of a burning house.

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Speaker 1: History has already rendered its verdict on Marxism, on socialism,

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Speaker 1: on communism. Socialism fails brutally, repeatedly, predictably. Maduro's fall is

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Speaker 1: not proof that collectivism works. It is proof that it

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Speaker 1: always ends the same way, and in his case, just

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Speaker 1: sooner for some than others. But my friends that are

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Speaker 1: in you know, Somali, Minnesota and Marxist New York and

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Speaker 1: pay attention what Maduro did to his population, how he

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Speaker 1: utterly ruined. It is indicative of what we have to

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Speaker 1: come if we do not keep those powers in check. Here.

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Speaker 1: Freedom is something that has to be continually contended for,

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Speaker 1: kind of like the faith we're told to contend for

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Speaker 1: the faith. We have to contend for freedom, because if

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