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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to this Thursday edition of dot Crime.

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Speaker 4: We are joined by Russ Blake and Cliff Hey. Cliff A,

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Speaker 4: you too. You're looking well as always. Nice hat on

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look at you man, World Poker. It was gonna

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Speaker 6: Are you here? Are you a card shark? I didn't

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Speaker 7: Cliff.

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Speaker 5: We'll get into that sometime. Blake, I don't want to

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Speaker 8: I try to well.

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Speaker 4: You know that's yeah, it's a card sharks.

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Speaker 8: All right, whatever, whatever, Enough guys, guys, guys, guys, we

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Speaker 9: Why do you want to be here? Why do you

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Speaker 10: We're going back to the moon.

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Speaker 8: That's why we're going back to the moon.

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Speaker 4: Hold on, all right, okay, so first of all, this

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Speaker 4: All right, a couple of things. We're doing an early

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Speaker 4: thought crime today. We may get Jack in. But Jack

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Speaker 4: want to talk about him going viral with Lord of

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Speaker 3: I got Mark Safe by Nerd Rodick.

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Speaker 4: And I did not because apparently I just haven't watched

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Speaker 3: That was It's true. That was your take.

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Speaker 4: We are doing an early thought crime with Cliff and Yes.

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Speaker 4: Our first topic is artem is too long?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 11: That's why.

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Speaker 4: You know his parents like his dad. But you know,

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Speaker 8: Oh it's so great. We're going back to the moon.

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Speaker 4: Well did we go to the moon?

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Speaker 3: Yes, we went to the moona does is anyone here?

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Speaker 6: Is anyone here a moon landing?

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Speaker 4: I don't get fun with any of the current conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 7: Grain doesn't get close to it. It's almost like a

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Speaker 8: It has a shut beauty all its own.

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Speaker 4: It does look beautiful, doesn't it because it was on

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Speaker 4: Is this is this folklore?

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Speaker 8: I'm not familiar with this legend, You're going to have

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Speaker 13: So apparently Kennedy or some high level politician was there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that is actually a cool like leadership story.

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Speaker 4: You got the janitor who's like all in to clean

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but we won it.

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Speaker 8: Awesome, we did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even if it okay, is it more bad? Well?

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Speaker 4: Is it more cool?

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Speaker 4: Eleven year old?

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Speaker 6: This is a PG thirteen ship.

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Speaker 4: Is it cooler if we actually went to the moon

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Speaker 8: You don't do this, no, don't do any of this,

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Speaker 6: It's way cooler to go.

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Speaker 4: I believe we went to the moon. I'm very proud

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Speaker 8: Like seventy one or seventy seventy five. We're going at

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Speaker 4: So anyways, it's just wild that you know, it's legitimately

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Speaker 4: landing on the moon. By the way, Artemis two their

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Speaker 8: I think the current plan is Artemis four is the

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Speaker 8: then I think Artemis four is like they actually do it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I just think conspiracy theorists have way too much

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Speaker 3: There's so many non experts.

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Speaker 8: Oh if you guys want just like, oh man, we've

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Speaker 8: There's just eight you know oh man, Yeah, sure, every

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Speaker 4: Oh I see always wait, I didn't even know that

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Speaker 8: Now I've even seen tweets like people arguing that like

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Speaker 6: Actually no, they're they're dumb.

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Speaker 4: About this. They are Cliff Cliff laughing about this. They

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Speaker 6: Do they fly in planes?

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Speaker 8: We should have sent Aerosmith on this mission, because they

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Speaker 4: It says, However, a few long haul routes in the

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Speaker 4: That you're going around, Like it's all a big flat disc. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And why do they believe this?

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Speaker 4: Which is why it makes sense to go over the

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Speaker 13: I got three reasons here, Grop's telling me why people

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Speaker 4: We need in extreme did you did you mention extreme conditions?

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Speaker 6: And ark is way colder than the North Pole.

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Speaker 8: We have all these conspiracy theis about flat Earth, but

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Speaker 8: Madness is actually a true account from HB. Lovecraft, and

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Speaker 8: if you fly over it you'll onlyash the Cthulhu horrors

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Speaker 6: We could also.

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Speaker 4: Say the Thing.

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Speaker 8: We could say the Thing was the was a documentary,

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Speaker 8: No idea, you haven't seen the thing.

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Speaker 4: Wait, the thing, the Thing.

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Speaker 8: You don't even know what I'm talking about. He doesn't

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Speaker 8: even know about the thing, Cliff, you know what the

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Speaker 4: Who at the movie nineteen eighty two Horror?

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Speaker 8: The Thing man, it's We're like, it's real. You can't

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Speaker 4: And then the Antarctic, Yeah, Antarctic Antarctica like one of

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Speaker 8: And it's the movie that came out.

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Speaker 3: Et in a World.

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Speaker 12: Trust anyone in antarcticat Russell leads a crew desperately attempting

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, that is pretty good.

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Speaker 7: Wow did you do you guys? Ever?

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Speaker 4: That wasn't scary, It was beautiful.

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Speaker 13: You guys ever hear the I'm now diving deep into

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Speaker 13: before that they are really secret Nazi bases and that's

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Speaker 6: Well then, yeah, they had like a name of it.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so accepting that the moon landing is real, is it?

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Speaker 8: Is the mission taint is the mission tainted by us

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Speaker 5: You think you think what was the movie? We're just

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Speaker 8: Well, you build up, you build up to it. It's still

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Speaker 4: It's so weird is that we've already done it before.

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Speaker 8: You know, really brought it back. Amusingly it was Bush.

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Speaker 14: Now we're in a race against China the moon.

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Speaker 8: I think everything. I think anything that would have created

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Speaker 14: There is a there's an amazing show that I love

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Speaker 3: Lost the space race back in the seventies.

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Speaker 14: And then you kind of go through them landing on

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Speaker 4: Wow, it's kind of cool. What if we.

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Speaker 8: If we were losing the space race to China and

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Speaker 6: Us to.

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Speaker 8: Blow up the moon?

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Speaker 4: Pretty sure?

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Speaker 3: That would have some Yeah, that would have some serious consequences.

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Speaker 8: Okay, okay, you guys can all be like, there was

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is this is obscure, Cliff, what were you

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Speaker 13: No, I was just looking at the Bush stuff because

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Speaker 13: His moon goal was to return by twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 13: which you know, I get it, but like, yeah, that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was so word.

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Speaker 8: We're executing on Bush's vision in a variety of ways,

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Speaker 8: State mathematics Professor Alexander Abian spent much of his career

451
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Speaker 8: advocating that we destroy the moon, which he said would

452
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Speaker 8: eliminate seasons, the wobble of the Earth, and it would

453
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Speaker 8: delete all associated events like heat waves, snowstorms, and hurricanes.

454
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Speaker 8: And he said that those who dismissed him were like

455
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Speaker 8: those who dismissed Galileo. So he said we should explode

456
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Speaker 8: the mood. And he was a mathematics professor, so he's

457
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Speaker 8: smarter than all of us. But speaking of things that

458
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Speaker 8: are kind of cool but also possibly lame, we also

459
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Speaker 8: have very fascinating news out of another extreme part of

460
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Speaker 8: our universe, Mount Everest. So Mount Everest, the tallest mountain

461
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Speaker 8: in the world, is in the news because Napali's police

462
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Speaker 8: have discovered a sinister sharp a plot to poison Mount

463
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Speaker 8: Everest climbers. Apparently they were spiking their food with baking

464
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Speaker 8: powder or other things, causing them to fall ill so

465
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Speaker 8: that they would then request a helicopter evacuation off of

466
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Speaker 8: Mount Everest.

467
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Speaker 4: Extraordinarily daunting, they would.

468
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Speaker 8: Get a helicopter off Mount Everest, which is really expensive,

469
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Speaker 8: and it was a way to basically scam people into

470
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Speaker 8: expensive helicopter evacuations off of Mount Everest. Apparently it involved

471
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Speaker 8: over twenty people and it may have cost over twenty

472
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Speaker 8: million dollars worth of expensive helicopter evacuation guaranteed.

473
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Speaker 4: It it's like American insurance companies paying for it.

474
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Speaker 3: Totally.

475
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Speaker 4: Yeah, We're like, somehow the Somalians figure out a way

476
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Speaker 4: to defraud us and the Nepalese.

477
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Speaker 6: It really is sinister.

478
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Speaker 8: Like you think of what a cash cow just having

479
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Speaker 8: Mount Everest is for the Nepalese economy, and then these

480
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Speaker 8: guys are like, no, it's not enough. We have to

481
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Speaker 8: do this insane scam on the people coming here to

482
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Speaker 8: spend money.

483
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Speaker 14: Well on top of it too, like mostly culture. Most

484
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Speaker 14: of these people going up Mount Everest are rich people

485
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Speaker 14: who are bored anyways. So it's like, oh, so you're

486
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Speaker 14: gonna scam them out of even more money, got it?

487
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Speaker 5: That?

488
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Speaker 8: So the reason I wanted to bring this up is

489
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Speaker 8: similar thoughts. So, Okay, they're scamming the people who climbed

490
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Speaker 8: Mount Everest, But the bigger idea, the thought crime idea,

491
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Speaker 8: is climbing Mount Everest actually cool still? Or is it

492
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Speaker 8: actually kind of lame? Yay, let's be let's be frank here.

493
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Speaker 8: The first guy to climb Mount Everest did it in

494
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Speaker 8: the fifties and he had to figure it out. Edmund

495
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Speaker 8: Hillary and Tenzing Norgay, they had to figure out how

496
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Speaker 8: to get to the top of the mountain. And you know,

497
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Speaker 8: they were gonna die if they failed, and they had

498
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Speaker 8: to do all the work. But now you could just

499
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Speaker 8: be a rich person and go climb Mount Everest. You

500
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Speaker 8: just And it's the Shirpas, the local Napoleese. They do

501
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Speaker 8: all of the hard work of figuring out. They basically

502
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Speaker 8: create the route up there. You just they guide you

503
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Speaker 8: up the whole way. And yeah, you can die.

504
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Speaker 4: But a lot of people die every year.

505
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but you can also die in like a normal

506
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Speaker 8: car crash too. And I'm not a hero or brave

507
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Speaker 8: for driving my car around Phoenix. I think it's not

508
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 8: exactly the same, but it is. It's much deadlier. Have

509
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 8: you seen the Phoenix drivers.

510
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Speaker 3: It's bad.

511
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Speaker 4: It's bad, Am I saying that?

512
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Speaker 3: Right?

513
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Speaker 4: Police? They I mean they are really impressive. The fact

514
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Speaker 4: that these guys go up and down, up and down,

515
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Speaker 4: up and down like there's there's Yeah, they're impressive. They're impressive.

516
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Speaker 6: They're impressive.

517
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Speaker 8: The rich the West like I remember about this is

518
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Speaker 8: when I was in high.

519
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Speaker 4: School or so technical training.

520
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Speaker 8: This guy became the first blind person to climb to

521
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Speaker 8: the top of Mount Everest. And yeah, you can say

522
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Speaker 8: that's amazing he's blind, But the other way you could

523
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Speaker 8: phrase it is, okay, a blind person can do this.

524
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Speaker 4: It does start to degrade the accomplishment for everybody else. Yeah,

525
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Speaker 4: and you know what's interesting about Everest is that there's

526
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Speaker 4: like a bunch of there's a bunch of like trash everywhere.

527
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Speaker 4: It's become really like dirty the room because so many

528
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Speaker 4: people do it.

529
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Speaker 8: And the standard thing is you use oxygen tanks and

530
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Speaker 8: then you just chuck the metal tank. It's there for

531
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Speaker 8: the rest of eternity. You you're climbing with your climbing

532
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Speaker 8: buddy and he gets tired, so you chuck him his

533
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Speaker 8: entire body to the side to get to the top

534
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Speaker 8: and abandon him. And they do throw up the b

535
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Speaker 8: roll of it. It's it's content warning here. But there's

536
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Speaker 8: a lot of corpses on Mount Everest, and in fact,

537
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Speaker 8: some of them are important landmarks.

538
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Speaker 4: The flag.

539
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Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, and like this is what will happen.

540
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Speaker 8: You will get tired, you'll be in the death zone

541
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Speaker 8: and you just get tired, and they the guides will

542
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Speaker 8: say like, you need to get up or you're gonna die.

543
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Speaker 8: You have to keep moving. But if you can't keep moving,

544
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 8: they just ditch you there. And if you're high up enough,

545
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 8: you can't get that scam helicopter rest.

546
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Speaker 4: So now you're making it sound cool to hike Mount Ever, like,

547
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Speaker 4: if you it's impressive if you hike Mount Evers.

548
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's also again it's that combo where the

549
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 8: sherpas are doing all the hard work. So if you

550
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Speaker 8: go out there and you just die and you're not

551
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Speaker 8: doing the hard work to climb, you're just sort of

552
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Speaker 8: hazarding high altitude and you might get altitude sickness and

553
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Speaker 8: keel over. It just sort of feels dumb to me.

554
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Speaker 14: It's the mountain climbing equivalent of getting into a cage

555
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Speaker 14: and swimming with sharks.

556
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Speaker 5: Like, it's not I got the numbers here, what do

557
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Speaker 5: you what do you think?

558
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Speaker 3: I like that die per year? Yeah?

559
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Speaker 4: How many people die per year? I'm not sure I'm

560
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Speaker 4: sold on this analogy yet.

561
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Speaker 5: I think I actually thought it was much higher. Go ahead,

562
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Speaker 5: take a guess before you look it up.

563
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Speaker 3: I got the numbers ten.

564
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I would say, I want to say

565
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Speaker 8: it's like it comes in bursts, like there will be

566
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Speaker 8: years where no one dies or one dies, and then

567
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Speaker 8: there will be a bad storm and maybe like ten

568
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Speaker 8: people last year, I would I would say average one

569
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Speaker 8: or two.

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Speaker 13: Last year was five, which is a pretty low number.

571
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Speaker 13: Eight deaths in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three.

572
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Speaker 5: And eighteen deaths holy and then the notable one was

573
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Speaker 5: twenty fifteen there was a huge avalanche around base camp.

574
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Speaker 5: Nineteen people died. Wow, it's lower than I thought.

575
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Speaker 8: I thought Everest that's the worst of all. You go

576
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Speaker 8: to Everest and you just die in an avalanche at

577
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Speaker 8: base camp. That sucks.

578
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Speaker 4: I had thought about it that way. Yeah, did I mean,

579
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Speaker 4: but I wonder how many of those were hikers in

580
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Speaker 4: sherpas or did the sherpas that were like we know

581
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Speaker 4: how to avoid this.

582
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Speaker 6: There are there are definitely to take a lot of sheas.

583
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Speaker 14: Really some girl named Stephanie just doing the check in

584
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Speaker 14: list and what the.

585
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Speaker 13: Twenty twenty fourteen there were sixteen sherpas because there was

586
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Speaker 13: some sort of like that was there were the only

587
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Speaker 13: people that died that year. There was some sort of

588
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Speaker 13: ice ball collapse that was twenty fourteen six or sixteen.

589
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Speaker 4: Back for all these Sherpa deaths that have happened throughout

590
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Speaker 4: the year, they're getting they're back at at Whitey.

591
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 8: Yeah. I can kind of see that in a dark story. Yeah,

592
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 8: this is it's very dark. But no, we need comments.

593
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Speaker 8: If anyone else thoughts, is it lame to climb Mount Everest.

594
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 6: Let's see.

595
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Speaker 4: I don't think it's quite as lame as you know,

596
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: or like it's more harrowing than floating in a shark

597
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 4: tank completely protected, because the only way you die that

598
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 4: way is if you have.

599
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Speaker 14: Some sort of like I mean, have you seen the

600
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Speaker 14: videos of sharks getting stuck in there and and people

601
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 14: literally like up against the back of the cage because

602
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 14: the face got stuck in there.

603
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 4: Oh no, but I mean I guess that makes some sense.

604
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Speaker 4: But it's not like if you're a small enough shark

605
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 4: to get through a cage and a shark tank, you're

606
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: probably not like a man eater kind of.

607
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 6: Andrew's the kind of guy.

608
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Speaker 8: He watches Jaws and the guy gets in the cage

609
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 8: and he's like, I could do that.

610
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 4: It isn't scary.

611
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 11: He watches the meg and he's like, Jason Stath has

612
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 11: nothing on me. But at least the meg is a

613
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 11: fictional shark. Jaws a real shark, and just Jaws is not. Yeah,

614
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 11: it's not a conspiracy. The moonlanding's fake Andrew.

615
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 8: Andrew's just watching Jaws, and he's like, they don't need

616
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 8: a bigger boat.

617
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 6: I could take that out on a jet ski.

618
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely don't.

619
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Speaker 5: Think you know, Jaws.

620
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Speaker 13: Jaws rocked me to my core as a kid because

621
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Speaker 13: one of the behind the scenes shows Spielberg when they

622
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Speaker 13: put the oxygen tank in the shark and then they

623
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 13: shoot it, and then obviously the shark explodes, and apparently

624
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 13: somebody technical and scene was like, well, Steven, if you

625
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 13: shoot an auction tank, it's not necessarily going to explode,

626
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 13: and he was just.

627
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Speaker 5: Like, they'll believe that it explodes.

628
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Speaker 13: That was like his whole line for doing that, Like

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Speaker 13: there's no you shoot an oxtionen tank, it's not going

630
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Speaker 13: to explode.

631
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Speaker 4: But by the fact that he was just like, they'll

632
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: believe it explodes goes back to the moon landing. Good

633
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Speaker 4: director knows what the audience will believe.

634
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Speaker 8: Is mister Kubrick, They'll never think this is real, they'll

635
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Speaker 8: believe we landed on it. Honestly, the least the reason

636
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 8: all the Kubrick conspiracy theories about the moon landing don't

637
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Speaker 8: work is that, knowing what we do about Stanley Kubrick

638
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 8: would have made them redo the landing about fifty times

639
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Speaker 8: before he'd be satisfied with the take. So that's probably

640
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 8: the best argument against that particular weird conspiracy.

641
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Speaker 4: Well, I actually again, I believe the moonlanding happened. I

642
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Speaker 13: New Zealand, and so I got to go to hobbiton

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Speaker 13: It was an interesting trip. I have never seen the series,

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Speaker 13: so talk about being a bad guest and somebody who

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Speaker 13: cannot comment, I have no clue.

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Speaker 5: I've obviously seen.

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Speaker 13: Clips, but I did not feel the Lord Jesus Christ

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Speaker 13: when I was at Hobitant that is my thought for

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Speaker 13: this time.

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Speaker 4: Score one for Jack right there.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 8: I don't get these takes where it's like it's pagan,

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Speaker 8: unless like Frodo collapses on his knees and confesses Jesus

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Speaker 8: as his Lord and savior. But admittedly that's it went

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Speaker 8: quite viral. I got sent.

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Speaker 6: I have friends in.

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Speaker 8: Europe who also don't know that I work on this program,

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Speaker 8: who were sending me that clip. So let's remind people

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Speaker 8: what it was. Let's do clip fourteen.

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Speaker 15: I've heard people try to make the argument that Lord

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Speaker 15: of the Rings is overtly Christian, and I hate the

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Speaker 15: burst the bubble guys, but you're just wrong. There's nothing

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Speaker 15: overtly Christian about Lord of the Rings. There's no church

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Speaker 15: in it, there's no faith in it, there's no christ figure, there's.

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Speaker 3: None of these things.

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Speaker 15: And honestly, Lord of the Rings, if it's anything, Lord

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Speaker 15: of the Rings is overtly pagan.

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Speaker 3: I would like the record to reflect that when I

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Speaker 3: was nodding and smiling, it was because I've heard that

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Speaker 3: pick before and not with Jack.

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Speaker 4: Get me that final frame. This is my defense. Give

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Speaker 4: me the final frame. My face goes like he goes

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Speaker 4: overtly pagan and I go.

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Speaker 6: Because he was thinking, he agrees with.

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Speaker 3: It unless you're unless you were trying to hold back

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Speaker 3: a sneeze.

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Speaker 4: Well that was not what I was trying to do.

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Speaker 4: I was like, huh hmmm, all.

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Speaker 6: Right, Well everyone got very spirited about it. Everyone was

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Speaker 6: ganging up on Jack.

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Speaker 8: They were all going after him, and so he I

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Speaker 8: believe he insisted he had to call back in again himself.

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Speaker 8: So I think we've got him on hold. Jack. Are

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Speaker 8: you there still crying?

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Speaker 10: Are they still crying? They're still crying? Are that what's

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Speaker 10: going on right now?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 10: The Lord of the Rings? Like, uh, Lord of the

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Speaker 10: Rings is is Catholic? People are still crying about this.

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Speaker 6: Oh it's Jack Steine music.

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Speaker 3: It's the favorite music. He listens to this regularly.

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Speaker 16: What's weird is that?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 16: Is that like really so what's really weird about this

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Speaker 16: is that, like really stupid people who don't have brain

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Speaker 16: cells thought that I was saying that I didn't like

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Speaker 16: the Lord of the Rings or like that Lord of

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Speaker 16: the Rings was bad, or that I like the amount

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Speaker 16: of hallucinations and drugs that people were taking, kind of

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Speaker 16: like the earlier Lord of the Rings fans who are.

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Speaker 10: The hippies are. It was just amazing to see all

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Speaker 10: of these things that people responding to that I literally

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Speaker 10: didn't say because people forget what we were talking about

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Speaker 10: this because of the Stephen Colbert sequel to Lord of

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Speaker 10: the Rings, and the whole point of it was me

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Speaker 10: trying to explain why someone who's like an arch liberal

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Speaker 10: would like Lord of the Rings, but then someone who's,

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Speaker 10: you know, like an arch conservative like JD. Vance would

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Speaker 10: also like the same series. And it's amazing to me that, man,

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Speaker 10: not only did I burst the bubble, I burst it

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Speaker 10: so bad that they're still crying about it. And I've

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Speaker 10: also realized that people don't know what the word overt means,

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Speaker 10: where yes, overt means on the surface level, which is

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Speaker 10: actually something that was said by wait for it, J. R. R. Tolkien,

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Speaker 10: the writer of the series, who said that he eliminated

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Speaker 10: religion from the series, and it is not found until

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Speaker 10: you review it further.

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Speaker 4: All right, what do you do? Do you buy this?

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Speaker 4: Do you buy his defense here?

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Speaker 8: I don't, uh.

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Speaker 10: No, it it's just it's just true true.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just think he's picking a fight.

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Speaker 8: He's picking a fight over the wrong thing, the wrong.

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Speaker 4: People, original one that write about I want to get that.

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Speaker 4: Send me the original like post from Human Events, Roger.

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Speaker 4: I want to because there's some people brought up some

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Speaker 4: good points, Jack, and I want to give you a

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Speaker 4: go ahead.

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Speaker 10: I I mean, I'm happy to respond to all the

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Speaker 10: incorrect points that people were making.

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Speaker 4: You know, there was a couple, there were some people

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Speaker 4: who came to your defense as well, like Joshua Isaac,

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Speaker 4: he had your bag. Let me see here.

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Speaker 3: I can't find the.

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Speaker 10: Original New York Times multiple best selling author Joshua Isaac.

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Speaker 4: There it is okay, all right, communists, It's like communists,

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Speaker 4: It's okay. So let's just deal with the community. Note Jack,

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Speaker 4: it says in letter one two to Father Robert Murray

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Speaker 4: j R. R. Tolkien describes Lord of the Rings as

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Speaker 4: a fundamentally religious and Catholic work.

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Speaker 10: So in that letter they clipped off the end of

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Speaker 10: what he said. He said it's foundational, fundamental in the

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Speaker 10: sense that it's at the lower level. But he also

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Speaker 10: says that he eliminated religion from the series itself, and

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Speaker 10: that you do not you don't encounter it until you

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Speaker 10: go into the lower level. Until upon the revision, so

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Speaker 10: he removed all of the overt elements of religion. So

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Speaker 10: all of the Lord of the Rings stands like got

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Speaker 10: really really mad and decided to take their own favorite

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Speaker 10: author out of context. It's really sad, actually, Jack, Like,

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Speaker 10: why are you guys twisting the words of Tolkien if

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Speaker 10: you love him so much?

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Speaker 4: This is interesting? So Tom Roswell you can find him

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Speaker 4: at on exit Tom underscore Ros Rosell, Sorry, Roselle r

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Speaker 4: ow s E l L. He says pagan here Tolkien

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Speaker 4: was Catholic, and Lord of the Rings is pagan mythology

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Speaker 4: repurposed and imbued with Christian morality. It isn't actually pagan,

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Speaker 4: so it's kind of like a quasi, which is what

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Speaker 4: kind of what I think you were saying actually, And

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Speaker 4: a lot of people made the point Jack that since it,

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Speaker 4: you know, Middle Earth in the whole theme is what

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Speaker 4: ten thousand years before our current moment or something like that,

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Speaker 4: it was like some mythological an take equity that it

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Speaker 4: couldn't have. Christ had not come yet at that point,

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Speaker 4: so it had to be pre Christian, but it was

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Speaker 4: imbued with Christian morality. Pagan mythology imbued with Christian morality.

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Speaker 4: Would you agree with that presentation from this pagan.

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Speaker 10: I certainly would, because again the pagan here is not

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Speaker 10: understanding what I'm saying. I didn't say anything about the

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Speaker 10: morality of the series. I was talking about the overt,

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Speaker 10: surface level elements of the story. Dwarves, elves, knights, dragons, wizards. Again,

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Speaker 10: this is all pagan mythology. Gandolf is basically a version

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Speaker 10: of Odin. You have a pantheon of gods and one

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Speaker 10: higher god. Again, this is all just pagan mythology. As

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Speaker 10: Tolkien himself said many.

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Speaker 3: Times, Gandolf is a guide. He's not Odin.

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Speaker 14: He's an angel's That's more of what Tolkien was saying.

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Speaker 3: But I didn't have to like Gandalf is.

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Speaker 10: So Tolki and himself, well, don't don't lie, don't don't

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Speaker 10: twist Tolkien. Tolkien himself said that Gandalf is based on.

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Speaker 14: Odin in the in the sense of wandering, not in

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Speaker 14: the sense of like actual like like Odin. But the

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Speaker 14: the core of it is that you know, as with Christianity.

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Speaker 14: He wrote that it's absolute truth, like Lord of the

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Speaker 14: Rings is is written with at its core absolute truth,

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Speaker 14: as in as good versus evil, whereas in paganism there

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Speaker 14: is no like absolute truth. There's just it's there's relative morality.

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Speaker 14: If that's the right word that I'm thinking of.

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Speaker 4: Uh, somebody, this one got some play here. It says

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Speaker 4: it's not like Norse mythology.

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Speaker 10: Okay, but that's that's a morality. That's the morality. That's

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Speaker 10: not that's not we're just talking overt that's that's that's again,

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Speaker 10: I didn't say anything about the morality.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think he's gonna that's still overtly.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's still overtly. The morality part is vote overtly Christian.

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Speaker 14: I know what overtly means.

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Speaker 10: I'm just saying, but again, a different but that's a

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Speaker 10: different Okay, But you're just making a different argument than

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Speaker 10: I was making.

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Speaker 8: I feel like if something's pagan, it's got to have

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Speaker 8: actual pagan gods in it. And there's only one god

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Speaker 8: and Lord of the Rings, and it's explicitly like the

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Speaker 8: Christian God.

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Speaker 10: So that's yeah, but that's not true. There are there

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Speaker 10: are powerful creatures called the Velar that operate as sort

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Speaker 10: of a pantheon of God.

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Speaker 8: But like the Loserrater is a powerful creature. It's not

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Speaker 8: a pagan god.

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Speaker 4: No, but it's obviously like to his point, it's magical

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Speaker 4: or old.

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Speaker 3: Well Arnia, Soarnia has Narnia.

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Speaker 14: Has a supposedly a it's an allegory, right, Narnia has

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Speaker 14: an allegory of the Bible has centaurs, not even just that.

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Speaker 14: But no, but but that's that's your point, Jack, It

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Speaker 14: has magical creatures. But it it's in your in your

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Speaker 14: own words, it is a direct allegory of the Bible

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Speaker 14: because it has Christ in it. Well, actually, in Narnia,

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Speaker 14: Christ is a a lion. I don't know that Christ

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Speaker 14: is a lion in our world. But there's magical creatures

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Speaker 14: in Narnia, unlike.

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Speaker 10: And you would have to you would have to take

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Speaker 10: that up with JR. Well, you would you find yourself

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Speaker 10: in disagreement with j R. R. Tolkien then, because j R.

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Speaker 10: Tolkien said that Narnia is a direct allegory of the Bible.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so okay here here's here's an interesting one, Jack.

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Speaker 4: This is from octoberboyo uh it's it says it pulls

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Speaker 4: most heavily from Norse mythology. Take the Volsunga saga, for example,

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Speaker 4: which revolves around Loki stealing a ring from a dwarf,

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Speaker 4: which is then cursed to bring death and destruction to

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Speaker 4: whoever owns it. This also inspired Richard Wagner's famous ring

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Speaker 4: cycle opera. That's kind of an interesting one.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 8: I'm just I'm just still getting hung up on this point.

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Speaker 8: It has powerful creatures. Okay, well, the Bible has those

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Speaker 8: angels who fall to earth. It's got the Nephelin, it's

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Speaker 8: got the Devil and his angels are popping up in jolations.

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Speaker 8: We have demons possessing people, and yeah, God has power

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Speaker 8: over them, but they are portrayed as existing.

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Speaker 10: Look, look we can. We can go around and around

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Speaker 10: and split hairs on all this like all day long,

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00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 10: and believe me, I'd love to like. I love this stuff.

888
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 10: We like way more than politics. As you can tell, obviously,

889
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 10: we're all into it. I like Tolkien. I like Lord

890
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 10: of the Rings. Like I saw people accusing me of

891
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 10: saying that I didn't like it, I didn't say that

892
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 10: at all, actually, and what I was trying to get at,

893
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 10: I guess, if anything, was that I think that for

894
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Speaker 10: the current moment, that we do need things that more

895
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Speaker 10: are more explicitly Christian, because we live in such a

896
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 10: fall in society right now, that we need things that

897
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 10: aren't just Christian morality, like below the surface I'm talking

898
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 10: about over outwards blaze of Christianity and the Christian symbology.

899
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 10: I think that's really important, and you see a lot

900
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 10: of that in society today, where people are bringing back

901
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 10: those Christian symbols. So I'm talking about like what should

902
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 10: we use as a tool to evangelize. And as great

903
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 10: as Lord of the Rings is, I just don't think

904
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 10: it's great of a tool if you're explicitly trying to

905
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 10: bring people to the Cross. I mean, it might be

906
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 10: good as like a really really outward gateway drug, but

907
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 10: it has spawned so many Pagans and neo Pagans and

908
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 10: Wickans and Elvish other kin. In fact, the word other

909
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 10: Kin itself comes from Lord of the Rings fans who

910
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 10: originally were like the hippies and the counterculture left. So

911
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 10: you know, it's kind of a work that can be

912
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 10: taken multiple ways. And I've thought, as great as it is,

913
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 10: you know, it's just not something that I would use

914
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 10: for that function.

915
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 4: I mean, Stephen Colbert is a Catholic. I mean, I'm

916
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: not saying it's good.

917
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 6: We're going wrong with that, No, I think I feel

918
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 6: like the best.

919
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Speaker 3: Biden.

920
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm just saying it's not like Fulbert is

921
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 4: distinctly self professing.

922
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 8: Well, okay, so we have one more topic we want

923
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 8: to get so I want to make one more final

924
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 8: argument to Jack. It's this, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great.

925
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: I have to I have to say though.

926
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Speaker 10: Real quick, like you got me there, Blake, you got

927
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 10: you got me there.

928
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Speaker 14: I have to say though, like specifically when it comes

929
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 14: to evangelizing, I don't know any of my friends that

930
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Speaker 14: are not Christian who would who whose eyes don't glaze

931
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 14: over the minute I start talking about anything that is

932
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 14: fundamentally like like in your face, spoonf Like, here's the

933
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 14: gospel message right off, because growing up, my mom used

934
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 14: to have these movies from pure Flix and every single

935
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 14: one is poorly made, but it's just the Bible thrown

936
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 14: in your face and it just didn't it just doesn't work.

937
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 14: But something with like Lord of the Rings is like

938
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 14: you still have the opportunity to take something that is

939
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 14: good material, good. It's a good book, it's a good movie, and.

940
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: You're able to walk through.

941
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Speaker 14: The elements of the Gospel and the elements of Christianity

942
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 14: with something like Lord of the Rings that and non

943
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 14: Christian can get behind because they're not being just pummeled

944
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 14: over the head with the Gospel like we're supposed to

945
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 14: be salt and light we're supposed to be out there,

946
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 14: We're supposed to be all of that, and I agree

947
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 14: with that. But at the same time, most Christians and

948
00:45:53,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 14: most non Christians do not care to listen to the uh,

949
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 14: the Gospel message right off the bat. You have to

950
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 14: tease them in. You have to bring them in in

951
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 14: some way, shape or form. And that's what Lord of

952
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 14: the Rings has done for generations, even just with the books.

953
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 14: But then once the movies came out.

954
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: So that's all I'm gonna say. That's my final word

955
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 3: on it.

956
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 6: I think my argument was a bit better.

957
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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look, I'm not gonna I mean, I'm not

958
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 10: gonna I'm not gonna say it doesn't it doesn't lead

959
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 10: to conversions. I mean jd Vance of course is a

960
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 10: great example of that, you know, to steal man your

961
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 10: argument that you know, here's and he, of course, Jadie's

962
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 10: got a book out coming out as well about in

963
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 10: conversion and his like return to the faith. And and

964
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 10: we know that, you know, we know that he has

965
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 10: talked about Lord of the Rings in this context before,

966
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 10: and so I'm not going to discount anything of that.

967
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 10: And I'll point out that obviously that's a great example,

968
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 10: but at the same time, JD. Vance is a unicorn,

969
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 10: and we do not have a lot of JD. Vances

970
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 10: that you will not run across a lot of them.

971
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: So I wouldn't.

972
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 10: Uh, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to say

973
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 10: that the unicorn is always the best way. But you're right, Yeah,

974
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 10: obviously the pure flakes stuff. And I'm not knocking those

975
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 10: guys at all, but I I get what you're saying

976
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 10: in terms of the criticism there, and no, I would

977
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 10: also not hold up that stuff either.

978
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: A lot of the a lot of the comments, by

979
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: the way, were that Tolkien never said that Narnia was

980
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: too overtly Christian. That wasn't the problem. The problem was

981
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 4: that it was too allegorical and he preferred uh, more

982
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 4: sophisticated or more vague, less on the nose.

983
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, whatever, you know, all that symbolism. He was all there,

984
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 8: all butt hurt because Tolkien was an Anglican and everything.

985
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 10: I mean, that's that's splitting. That's amatic. We're talking about

986
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 10: the like overt allegorical, overtly it's again, it's it's it's

987
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 10: you're splitting here. That's semantics. It's the same thing all right, Well.

988
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 5: Jack, we should be talking.

989
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 13: We should be talking about veggietails and whether that went

990
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 13: woke or not.

991
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 5: I'm looking for that opinion.

992
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna watch anything.

993
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 3: As somebody who grew up on vegetails.

994
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 8: I'm sure I did. But everything, okay, I just don't

995
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 8: watch you taells men after two thousand.

996
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 6: And three or whatever. Just watch the old ones.

997
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 4: All right. So the final topic is something, Well, we

998
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 4: got it.

999
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 8: Jack's gotta bounce when you Jack, you have to bounce, Jack. Yeah,

1000
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 8: Jack's got.

1001
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 6: An intro an event that's going on soon.

1002
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 4: Does he have to bounce now?

1003
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 6: Because I believe so.

1004
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 10: I mean, I can hang for I can hang. I

1005
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 10: can hang for a little bit actually, because we have

1006
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 10: like here, I'm back stage of George Washington and the

1007
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 10: event is filling up. I see a ton of kids.

1008
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 10: I've got like a camera feed. A ton of kids

1009
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 10: are coming in Erica. The team are here, Carolyn Levitt's

1010
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 10: going to be here. I mean, this is going to

1011
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 10: be a huge event. It's the kickoff of this is

1012
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 10: the turning point I get. I can hang for like

1013
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 10: a couple more, maybe one more topic. I hang.

1014
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 8: Alright, Well, then you're very lucky because we have great

1015
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 8: or pagan too overtly something. Alright, you're going to talk

1016
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 8: about We're going to talk about the most famous person

1017
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 8: from the South to f we have to talk about

1018
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 8: the most famous person from South Dakota right now.

1019
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 6: And that is.

1020
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,959
Speaker 8: Yeah, all right. I'm a big fan.

1021
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 6: I'm a fan of my home state.

1022
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 8: But there have been strange reportings and rumblings from it

1023
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 8: in the past week. So many of us, myself included,

1024
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 8: felt a lot of sympathy for the husband of Christy

1025
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 8: Nome because of the widespread rumors about her amorous activities

1026
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 8: with another person. And he was at her hearing testifying

1027
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 8: before Congress when they were grilling her about this. It

1028
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 8: was all very strange. Everyone felt very bad, but someone

1029
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 8: didn't feel bad. Instead, they just went and they leaked

1030
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 8: his entire private life to the Daily Mail.

1031
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 4: There are reports that she had been talking about this

1032
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 4: behind the scenes for a while.

1033
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 6: It's very possible.

1034
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 8: I don't know what the reports are, but apparently just

1035
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 8: to catch people up on it, Brian Noam has some

1036
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 8: sort of hobby and that hobby is Look, we should

1037
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 8: be clear, Yeah, which of us hasn't inflated a balloon?

1038
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 8: And then shoved it down our shirt to pretend that

1039
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 8: it's a cartoonishly large pair of breasts so that we

1040
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 8: can then send a bunch of money to strippers.

1041
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 10: You know, I'm getting. Uh, I'm getting, I'm getting, I'm

1042
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 10: getting notification. It turns out I actually do have to

1043
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 10: go the.

1044
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 4: Uh run Jack, run.

1045
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: You guys.

1046
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 10: Man, You guys have a have a great time. I'm

1047
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 10: out here with Turning Point USA. I don't know if

1048
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 10: you've heard of them, great organization. I'm just gonna just

1049
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 10: gonna be with those guys tonight. Uh, that's fun.

1050
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 4: I understand, Jack, I understand, all right, But I wish

1051
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: I could run.

1052
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1053
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 8: Well, you're trapped. You're trapped.

1054
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 4: Imagine being a young woman just finding out that you're pregnant,

1055
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: not knowing where to go or what to do, not

1056
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: even knowing exactly what is going on in your body,

1057
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 4: while the whole world tells her it's just a clump

1058
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 4: of cells. You and I we both know the truth.

1059
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: We know it is a baby. And once she has

1060
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 4: an ultrasound that you provide and she sees the truth

1061
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Speaker 6: So this is actually this is kind of man.

1079
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 4: Why do you feel bad for Blake?

1080
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 8: Well, I guess what I would say is it's very bad.

1081
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 8: It is very bad. It's gross. It's basically transgenderism adjacent,

1082
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 8: like we should honestly be happy he hasn't already troned

1083
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 8: out as it were.

1084
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 10: Uh.

1085
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 8: But at the same time, my understanding is he basically

1086
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 8: he was never leaking anything against his wife.

1087
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 6: He was never doing anything.

1088
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 8: Publicly to humiliate her. And there's something off about me

1089
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 8: that this is bad. This is one hundred percent bad,

1090
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 8: and he should not do it. But he also was

1091
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 8: not a public figure. He didn't hold any office. He

1092
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 8: was an insurance salesman in I think Castlewoods, South Dakota.

1093
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 8: I can't remember the name because I've never been to it.

1094
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 6: It's that small. That's who he is.

1095
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 8: And he just like blasted on the Daily Mail. And

1096
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 8: in some sense, it's almost like blasting any random person

1097
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 8: for doing that. And if this guy is not publicly

1098
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 8: putting himself out there, if he's not a lawmaker himself,

1099
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 8: something feels very dark about just leaking all of that.

1100
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 6: But that said, it is very gross.

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Speaker 4: So this is what Ryan James Gerdesky was reporting. He said,

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Speaker 4: I mentioned on my podcast months ago that one of

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Speaker 4: Trump's cabinet members was telling reporters off the record that

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Speaker 4: her husband was gay. I didn't name by name out

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Speaker 4: of respect for privacy, But to say she had no

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Speaker 4: idea really flies in the face of what she was saying.

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Speaker 6: And Ryan, this is a little bit different from being gay.

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Speaker 4: So Ryanwhile, it could just be I don't know, well.

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Speaker 8: What it is is based on what it is, it's

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Speaker 8: auto ginophilia like that, that's what's going on with cross dressers.

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Speaker 8: It's that his kink is like that himself becoming the

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Speaker 8: woman he is attracted to. So it's a particularly messed

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Speaker 8: up form being straight.

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Speaker 4: What he's what he's saying is in the report, she's

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Speaker 4: like a spokesman four non basically says she's devastated, she

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00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: had no idea, please respect their privacy kind of thing,

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Speaker 4: saying she's devastating, the family is blindsided by this. They're

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Speaker 4: asking privacy and prayer, which is a funny way to

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Speaker 4: put it. Blindsided. Maybe you could you could say that

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Speaker 4: she was telling the truth, that she's blindsided by the

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Speaker 4: fact that the report went public, okay, Or she's blindsided

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Speaker 4: by this revelation that her husband is dressing up with fake.

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Speaker 8: Huge boobs, or she could just be not telling the truth,

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Speaker 8: or she could just be come on.

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Speaker 13: Guys, we can't we can't justify this. This is demonic,

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Speaker 13: this is wild.

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Speaker 4: Who's just and what gets me?

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Speaker 3: No, No, I don't.

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Speaker 13: I mean, like when we talk about it, it's like,

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Speaker 13: all right, well, why would he do this?

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Speaker 5: It's weird.

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Speaker 13: And I gotta say this, I am always so impressed

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Speaker 13: with how I always think, oh, you know, I've seen

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Speaker 13: it all and there is something about political power and look,

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Speaker 13: yeah he might not be a public figure, but his

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Speaker 13: wife's a cabinet member.

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Speaker 5: There's just some in the political world where these.

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Speaker 13: Sexual deviance come out and it's like they're challenging or

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Speaker 13: trying to do what is not allowed. It's almost like

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Speaker 13: they're attracted to do things that are deemed not appropriate.

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Speaker 13: But seeing this story, I mean, I couldn't even look

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Speaker 13: at the photos. The guy is weird, he's got a problem,

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Speaker 13: and it's just to me, it's almost hilarious that some

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Speaker 13: of this stuff comes out, because any normal person looks

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00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 13: at this and is like, what the hell is going

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Speaker 13: on in the political world in America?

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Speaker 8: Well, just off for context, because we're gonna have we're

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Speaker 8: gonna have libs bully Brian know about this, and yet

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Speaker 8: we had to pretend for years on end that what's

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Speaker 8: her name in the Biden administration, Rachel Levine, that Rachel

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Speaker 8: Levine was like a totally normal person and totally Richard

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Speaker 8: live whatever.

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Speaker 6: Well, and then.

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Speaker 8: On top of that, Sam Brinton totally normal dude. While

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Speaker 8: he's I mean, at least what we'll say, Brian know him,

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Speaker 8: nobody so far, No one so far has accused him

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Speaker 8: of stealing anyone's luggage. I don't really want to take

1158
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 8: any polymarket bets on what he might have been doing

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Speaker 8: with his wife's clothes.

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Speaker 14: But and if CLI hates those photos, he's gonna hate

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Speaker 14: the ones coming up next.

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Speaker 3: This.

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Speaker 8: Oh gosh, wait what hold hold on?

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Speaker 3: What?

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00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 3: You know what I do? My job?

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Speaker 14: Well, that's all I'm gonna say. I was asked and

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Speaker 14: I by whom?

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Speaker 3: You know? I'm gonna throw Angelo under the bus on

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Speaker 3: this one. He was like, hey, this would be funny.

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Speaker 8: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was funny. Yeah, let's pull up photo eighteen.

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Speaker 6: But wait, what are we about to see here?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Just wait, it'll be It's great. Is there is nineteen?

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Speaker 4: Hold on.

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Speaker 3: Twenty was disgusting?

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Speaker 14: Oh oh twenty one?

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Speaker 8: This is yeah?

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Speaker 3: Twenty two?

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Speaker 8: Why did why did Cliff get such a Cliff Cliss.

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Speaker 6: Is way more located.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and twenty weird and then of course all, okay,

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Speaker 8: so that's that's Marco Rubio auditioning for the job of

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Speaker 8: Christina's next husband.

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Speaker 3: I suppose you're welcome. You're welcome.

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Speaker 8: You know, if you're only listening to the on a

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Speaker 8: podcast episode, we're not gonna We're not gonna tell you what.

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Speaker 4: The Jack one was really funny.

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Speaker 3: Throw that one back up.

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Speaker 6: That was funny.

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Speaker 3: Jack is here with us in the Spirits.

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00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 4: So funny is it looks like one of those uh hey,

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00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 4: it was like adult you know, female books that it's like,

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Speaker 4: you know, it's like poorn for women, you know, the.

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Speaker 8: I know, I don't know, You're you're digging yourself.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to describe these books.

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Speaker 8: Whoa, whoa, you're throwing me under the bow just suddenly

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Speaker 8: getting attacked by Andrew his stare kind of.

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Speaker 4: You know, it just it worked.

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Speaker 8: Oh like that facial expression you had last week with Jack,

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Speaker 8: when you're talking about the Pagans, You're defending yourself with

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Speaker 8: your facial expression.

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Speaker 4: You should have put you should have done the prosthetics

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Speaker 4: with that face rather.

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Speaker 14: Oh, you know, it was already hard to try to

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Speaker 14: get Grock to add chesticles to all y'all.

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Speaker 6: But so here's the thought.

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Speaker 8: What if Brian Noman just come out and just said

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Speaker 8: that's an AI pick and it's all fake.

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Speaker 3: A defense.

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Speaker 4: Through AI software, you can run it through AI software

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Speaker 4: and find out if it actually is and it you know,

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00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 4: guaranteed reporters would have been like, we ran the photo

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Speaker 4: through AI and it is not a I.

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Speaker 6: And you could just be like, they're full of it.

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Speaker 14: So what you do, especially with X's algorithm right now,

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Speaker 14: you take that the actual photo, you throw it into AI,

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00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 14: make a bunch of AI photos of it, and then

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Speaker 14: just get a bunch of people to circulate it around X.

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00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 14: And then all of a sudden, you don't know what's

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00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 14: what and what's this is full on?

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Speaker 4: We are cooked, aren't we? The AI?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you who is cooked.

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Speaker 13: None of us can run for political office now that

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Speaker 13: we all just laughed at those photos shots.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I was disgested for the record, but good

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Speaker 4: thing I wasn't planning on run for political obviosens fair enough,

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Speaker 4: oh man, Although I do I do see a russ

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00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 4: uh Rest congressional seat at some point.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, that ain't happening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, especially the Lord of the Rings question.

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Speaker 14: You know what I got? I got marked safe by

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Speaker 14: nerd Ronic and the guys. Uh, I'm I'm fully okay

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Speaker 14: with that.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand why I didn't get marked safe? Why

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Speaker 4: was I not mark safe?

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Speaker 3: Because you hadn't watched it?

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Speaker 8: You you The problem.

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Speaker 3: Was is you explained that you hadn't seen it in

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Speaker 3: like ten years.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's probably human. Well that's like no, like

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Speaker 4: I saw them when they came out and when they

1244
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 4: were like you know on the streamers.

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Speaker 8: Faugh, what if every member of the Fellowship had the

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Speaker 8: Brian nome.

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Speaker 3: Look, oh, no, I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 14: I clock, I don't know the orcs just Grock is

1249
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 14: gonna start being what is wrong with you?

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Speaker 3: Off?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there'd be a lot of subtle political commentary if

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01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 8: you bimboed up the ORCS that kind of resents they

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Speaker 8: really would just basically.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've heard I actually sort of I just

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Speaker 4: to wrap it up, put a fine point on it.

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Speaker 4: It feels like some people are alleging that potentially our

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Speaker 4: ex Cabinet secretary was aware of this, maybe helped leak it.

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 4: We have no knowledge of that. Being the truth. But

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Speaker 4: we do have a reporting that says she was aware

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Speaker 4: of it and not blindsided.

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Speaker 6: But it'd be hard to not be aware either.

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Speaker 4: Or it is a sad story because they do have kids,

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Speaker 4: and I feel bad for them. So hopefully they can

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01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 4: pick up something like that destroys the family. Yeah, hopefully

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01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 4: they can pick up the pieces. And I don't know

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Speaker 4: what the future for them.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how she didn't know.

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Speaker 13: As big as those prosthetics or whatever you call them,

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Speaker 13: would you call them male?

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Speaker 5: What did you call them?

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Speaker 3: Chesticles?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, chesticles, as big as they were. I don't know

1273
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 13: where you're hiding those mats.

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Speaker 8: It was a balloon.

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01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a balloon.

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01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, balloon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why they were so wonky. Yeah.

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01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 5: You guys have a lot of experience in details.

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01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 4: Rest is with all this.

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01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 3: I'm new. I'm new. I just got here last week.

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01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 4: You're not new, That's true, Cardiff's true.

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Speaker 14: Any final thoughts, Lord of the Rings is Christian culture,

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01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 14: thank you and good night.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to agree with you on that one.

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01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 4: But if you're a dude dressing up like a woman,

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Speaker 4: that is not Christian culture.

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Speaker 13: Andrew, Andrew, let me give a quick shout out Erica

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01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 13: came out with Tyler to open up the Las Vegas headquarters.

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Speaker 5: Want to take congrats.

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Speaker 13: Really excited about the partnership between my group, Citizens Alliance

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Speaker 13: and Turning Point.

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Speaker 5: We got a lot of swing states.

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Speaker 13: We're going to be battling, obviously, as Charlie's vision worked

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01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 13: backwards from twenty twenty eight with the presidential and in

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01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 13: twenty twenty six, I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 13: tough year, but I think we're obviously going to do

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Speaker 13: the work through the ground game and really excited about

1298
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 13: that partnership. We have a lot more details over the

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Speaker 13: next couple of months as we roll things out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a big, a big development. Nevada is

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Speaker 4: key to building the Red Wall, along with New Hampshire

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Speaker 4: and Arizona. So we're by the way if you guys

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 4: want to get involved with what we're doing. Their Turning

1304
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 4: Point Action, Turningpoint Action dot Com. Obviously there's also cliffs

1305
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Speaker 4: work Citizens Alliance, but it's a great partnership. So congrats

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Speaker 4: as well. Cliff. I know you're central to that whole

1307
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 4: whole vision, so big, big moves, and like I said,

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Speaker 4: there's so much I sometimes I wonder if anybody else

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Speaker 4: is doing anything as much like media interest as there

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Speaker 4: always is. I mean, I'm about at the point where

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, like, you know, no comment, leave

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Speaker 4: us alone, like legit, is anybody else doing anything because

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Speaker 4: we seem to be the topic of conversation twenty for seven.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys all for joining.

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Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you

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Speaker 8: can trust, go to Charlikirk dot com.