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Speaker 2: and it is breaking news, breaking news. Just into the

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Speaker 2: in the Sunday morning Baptist church invasion. Those charged include

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Speaker 2: That's Mayor Jacob Frye in Minneapolis. Let's go back over

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Speaker 2: what he said. Number one, still no cooperation Minneapolis and

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Speaker 2: Now, the President in Davos has also signed the charter

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Speaker 2: Back on the home front, the federal government may finally

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Speaker 2: A major winter storm is set to impact a huge

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Speaker 2: Stephen Parr, Welcome into the Scott Jenning Show.

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Speaker 2: Back to the top story of the hour, Breaking news

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Speaker 2: Hey, in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: Is this the storm of the century that people are saying?

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Speaker 2: So We're going to have this massive ice storm, and

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Speaker 11: Thank you, Scott. I'm thrilled to be on. And when

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Speaker 11: And I think there is a potential for us to

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Speaker 11: be able to get that language into the reconciliation bill. Certainly,

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Speaker 11: in a reconciliation build. But we're really excited for the opportunity.

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Speaker 11: We've got tremendous support. As you probably remember, Ivanka Trump

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Speaker 11: sort of challenge took on this challenge when she was

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's Congresswoman Stephanie Biss from Oklahoma. That's the voice

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Speaker 2: you're hearing, one of the brightest lights in the House

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Speaker 2: Republican conference in Washington, DC. As far as I'm concerned, Stephanie,

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Speaker 2: I want to get your comment on a couple of

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Speaker 2: breaking news stories. Let's start in Minneapolis breaking news today.

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Speaker 2: Seven people have been charged in this Sunday morning Baptist

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Speaker 2: church invasion in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: You've seen the video, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Sure, where these radical protesters burst into a church and

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Speaker 2: terrified the congregation and accosted the pastor and marauded through

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Speaker 2: a worship service while it was under It is not

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Speaker 2: clear to.

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Speaker 3: Me, by the way going on with Don Lemon.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing conflicting reports that he's been charged, and then

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Speaker 2: some people are saying that a magistrate judge won't sign

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Speaker 2: the complaint. I'm not entire now what the status of

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Speaker 2: Don Lemon, former CNN anchor is, but it is clear

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Speaker 2: that several people have been charged. What was your reaction

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Speaker 2: what is your comment on the Justice Department bringing charges

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Speaker 2: against the people who went into the church.

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Speaker 11: Well, they absolutely should be charged. The Facet Act should

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Speaker 11: be applied to these individuals for bursting into a church

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Speaker 11: and disrupting this service. We should all be allowed to

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Speaker 11: worship and not have to worry about I think the

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Speaker 11: terminology that you used last week was the political vigilanteism

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Speaker 11: that we're seeing from these radical groups that are disrupting

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Speaker 11: a church service. It's really unbelievable, and so holding these

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Speaker 11: people accountable is important. You shouldn't have to have people

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Speaker 11: posted at the doors of a church to prevent somebody

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Speaker 11: from coming in and disrupting your hours or so of

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Speaker 11: worshiping and praising the Lord. So I'm surprised that this

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Speaker 11: even happened. It's actually really shocking to me, and I'm

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Speaker 11: very glad that the Department of Justice has taken such

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Speaker 11: swift action to address this, because, look, you know, we

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Speaker 11: to violence. Frankly, you know, I was driving here in

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Speaker 11: they're just encouraging violence, and we need to stop. We

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Speaker 11: need to take a step back and recognize that we

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Speaker 11: can have a difference of opinion, but we can't start

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Speaker 11: we can't ramp the rhetoric up, and that's what the

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Speaker 11: left has been doing very recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not clear to me what they want to resist,

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Speaker 2: because all we're really talking about here is the enforcement

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Speaker 2: of existing federal immigration law. No new laws have been

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Speaker 2: passed since Donald Trump became the president. These are existing

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Speaker 2: federal immigration laws. We had deportations under all previous administrations,

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Speaker 2: including Democrat administrations, and everybody seemed to be fine with

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Speaker 2: it until Donald Trump started doing it, which, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is no great revelation since he's promised to do it

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Speaker 2: every day of all three campaigns that he's ever run.

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Speaker 2: And so I think what's happening in Minneapolis, frankly, is

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Speaker 2: a travesty and more people are going to get hurt

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Speaker 2: because of what these Democrats are telling their constituents to do.

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Speaker 2: Let's go over to Davos. The President announcing his peace

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Speaker 2: board today. Let's hear cut, nine guys. It's the President

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Speaker 2: upon announcing and codifying the peace board that he set

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Speaker 2: up to do the Middle East peace process in Gaza.

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Speaker 12: As everyone can see today, the first steps toward a

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Speaker 12: brighter day for the Middle East and a much safer

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Speaker 12: future for the world or unfolding right before you very eyes.

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Speaker 5: Together, we are are in a position to have any

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Speaker 5: incredible chance. I don't even call it a chance. I

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Speaker 5: think it's going to happen to end.

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Speaker 12: Decades of suffering, step generations of hatred and bloodshed, and

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Speaker 12: forge a beautiful, everlasting and glorious peace for that region

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Speaker 12: and for the whole region.

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Speaker 5: Of the world. Because I'm calling the world a region,

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Speaker 5: the world is a region.

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Speaker 12: We're gonna have peace in the world, and boy would

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Speaker 12: that be a great legacy for all of us.

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Speaker 5: Everybody in this room is.

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Speaker 2: A president is having some success, it seems in moving

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Speaker 2: this peace process forward. We're now in phase two according

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Speaker 2: to Special Envoy Witkoff Congress Flow Advice. So what's your

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Speaker 11: Look, it's a tremendous opportunity for us to bring everybody together,

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Speaker 11: and I got to praise President Trump for this. I mean,

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Speaker 11: you've heard some of my colleagues's reference him as the

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Speaker 11: to bring together so many different countries to put forward

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Speaker 11: the Abraham Accords. He's tried to broke her peace deal

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Speaker 11: with Gaza. He doesn't want these conflicts to continue, and

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Speaker 11: he's really I think, stepping up to the plate and

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Speaker 11: solutions to some of these challenges that we're facing. We

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Speaker 11: to have tough conversations. But he has really done I think,

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Speaker 11: tremendous work in bringing some sort of peace and stability

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Speaker 11: continue that. It's the work is not done, and I

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Speaker 11: know that he's committed to making sure that he sees.

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Speaker 5: This through.

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Speaker 2: The voice you're hearing Congresswoman Stephanie bys of Oklahoma, one

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Speaker 2: of the bright lights and great policy thinkers in the

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Speaker 2: House Republican Conference. You're going to keep an eye on her.

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Speaker 2: We certainly here are at the show. Stephanie. You have

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Speaker 2: an open invitation come by any time and we'll keep

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Speaker 2: up with you in the months ahead as the budget

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Speaker 2: It's Thursday, January twenty second, broadcasting live from Little Rock, Arkansas.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to talk about something that happened on

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Speaker 2: which nobody watches, Chris Cuomo. Chris Cuomo, you've probably heard of,

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Speaker 2: So CNN got rid of him, and now he's at

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Speaker 2: this News Nation. So he puts out a video yesterday

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Speaker 2: him Caskie, And you may have seen this on social media.

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Speaker 2: I was using the phrase illegal aliens, criminal, illegal aliens,

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Speaker 2: illegal aliens. That's what I was saying. Illegal aliens, common term.

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Speaker 2: It's also a term in the law. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this is what you call people who've come into the

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Speaker 2: country illegally.

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Speaker 3: They're illegal aliens. There's really nothing controversial about this.

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Speaker 2: And this little twerp turns to me on CNN the

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Speaker 2: other night and he says, you're not allowed to say

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Speaker 2: illegal aliens anymore. And I said, why, how do you

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Speaker 2: just had a curiosity plan to enforce this language edict

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Speaker 2: that you were springing upon me. By the way, I've

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Speaker 2: never met this kid before, don't know him, never heard

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Speaker 2: of him, have no idea who he is, not sure

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Speaker 2: how he got booked on a national news program. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: he shows up trying to instruct yours, truly, your host,

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Speaker 2: about what you can call people who are in the

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Speaker 2: I dressed this kid down a little bit. So then

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Speaker 2: yesterday I start getting all these notifications. Chris Cuomo has

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Speaker 2: put out a video threatening me, literally threatening my safety

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Speaker 2: over this little fight. Chris Cuomo warned me. He said, quote,

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Speaker 2: don't be a tough guy. And he says I'm wrong

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Speaker 2: that we're not allowed to say illegal aliens anymore.

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Speaker 3: He said I was a bully. That's what he called me.

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Speaker 3: A bully.

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Speaker 2: Now, if you've ever watched these shows, I'm on, I'm

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Speaker 2: But Chris Cuomo said that Democrats and Republicans had already

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Speaker 2: agreed to call them undocumented instead of illegal. That's not true.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Republican and I haven't agreed to that. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna call them illegal aliens. And you know who else

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Speaker 2: used to call them illegal aliens Chris Cuomo. In fact,

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Speaker 2: our friend mays More on X put together a little

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Speaker 2: super cut of Chris Cuomo saying illegal aliens, guys in

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Speaker 2: the booth. If you can cueue up cut two. I

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Speaker 2: want to hear from Chris Cuomo using the phrase illegal aliens.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear cut two.

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Speaker 6: You are either for American citizens or you're for illegals.

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Speaker 5: That is clear in his latest tweet.

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Speaker 6: He's one of the most well known faces when it

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Speaker 6: what does the Sheriff Joe R. Pio think about children

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Speaker 6: being taken from the parents? Illegal immigrants are your enemy either,

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Speaker 6: They're just not coming in the country the right way.

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Speaker 2: Chris Cuomo illegals, illegal aliens, illegal immigrants time and again,

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Speaker 2: refer to the illegal alien population in this country. Chris

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Speaker 2: Cuomo said to me on his stupid video, be careful.

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Speaker 2: You want to be a tough guy. There are plenty

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Speaker 2: of tough guys out there. Cuomo said, you want to

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Speaker 2: see how somebody can make you say illegal and what

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Speaker 2: are you.

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Speaker 3: Going to do? Sue tough guy?

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Speaker 2: I mean, he had a complete and total psychotic break.

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Speaker 2: And then he said, and I'll quote, so, if somebody

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Speaker 2: beats your I'm going to say rear end.

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Speaker 3: But he used a profane term.

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Speaker 2: If somebody beats your rear end, because you're being rude

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Speaker 2: and disrespectful and causing division in the country. That's causing

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Speaker 2: distress and pain on the streets. And making people want

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Speaker 2: to hurt one another if you really want to be

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Speaker 2: part of that. As the expression goes, FAFO, don't be

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Speaker 2: a tough guy. Chris Cuomo joins the ranks of Keith Olberman,

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Speaker 2: who tried to get me murdered a few months ago.

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Speaker 2: Now Chris Cuomo is obviously encouraging people to commit physical violence.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I have done to these liberal,

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Speaker 2: washed up hack news.

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Speaker 3: Anchor New York types.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what I did to these people other

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Speaker 2: than one thing be more relevant than them, and that, friends,

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Speaker 2: is Chris Cuomo's major problem. Okay, it's Thursday, January twenty second.

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Speaker 2: It's common sense for the American people. And we are

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Speaker 2: on the road in Little Rock, Arkansas, and we're coming

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Speaker 2: to you live today from the state Capitol in Little Rock.

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Speaker 2: We are the guest of the governor here, Sarah Huckabee Sanders,

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Speaker 2: and coming up at thirty three minutes past the hour,

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Speaker 2: Governor Sanders is going to come out her offices right

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Speaker 2: over there, and she's gonna come out. We're going to

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Speaker 2: have a bit of an extended interview, get her take

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Speaker 2: on what's going on in the world, and talk about

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Speaker 2: what she's doing here in Arkansas. I think she's one

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Speaker 2: of the best governors in America. I'm proud to call

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Speaker 2: her a friend and really grateful for the hospitality. Today

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Speaker 2: we're tracking breaking news, which we're going to get into

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Speaker 2: at twenty two minutes past the hour. Some of that

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Speaker 2: breaking news has to do with some arrests that have

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Speaker 2: been made in Minneapolis, Minnesota, in connection to the church

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Speaker 2: invasion by the radical protesters that occurred on Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to ask my next my next guest

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Speaker 2: about that as well. This is Elliott Williams joining the

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Speaker 2: show today. He's a CNN legal analyst, former federal prosecutor,

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Speaker 2: and neer official at the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security. Elliott,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the Scott Jennings Show.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot to know.

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Speaker 13: Welcome back, Welcome to I have not been with you

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Speaker 13: on this program. I'm usually hosting you on serious as

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Speaker 13: you've never been on here. Congratulations you know, but no,

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Speaker 13: I haven't been on with you.

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Speaker 2: So let's yeah, Okay, your inaugural to Pier Well, we'll

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Speaker 2: see how you do. We'll send the evaluation forms at

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Speaker 2: the conclusion of the show. Elliott you see on CNN,

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Speaker 2: and he's one of our go to voices when it

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Speaker 2: comes to legal issues going on in the country. Actually,

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Speaker 2: first of all, here's the reason you're here. You have

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Speaker 2: a new book, which I think is going to do well.

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Speaker 2: And by the way I'm hearing from people who are

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Speaker 2: reviewing it, you're going to come in the reviews FYI.

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Speaker 2: The book is called Five Bullets, the story of Bernie Getz,

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Speaker 2: New York's explosive eighties and subway vigilante trial that divided

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Speaker 2: the nation. That is what the book is about, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to get to that in just one second.

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Speaker 2: But I cannot resist asking you the question of the day.

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Speaker 2: Is I counted it just a moment ago have been

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Speaker 2: charged in Minneapolis, Minnesota with his church invasion. It's not

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Speaker 2: clear to me, Elliott, whether Don Lemon, our old colleague

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Speaker 2: can see in it is one of them or not.

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Speaker 2: I'm see conflicting things. Maybe you can clear this up

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Speaker 2: for us. Who has been charged? Is Don Lemon one

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Speaker 2: of them? And exactly how have they been charged? Here

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Speaker 2: by faving, I'm just.

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Speaker 13: Getting the same information you are, Scott. I haven't you know.

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Speaker 13: I can't tell you for certainty what they have. Now,

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Speaker 13: let's talk about sort of where you can be charged

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Speaker 13: for conduct like this and where you can't. Now, obviously

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Speaker 13: people know about the Face Act legislation past a bunch

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Speaker 13: of years ago that really seeks to protect people's right

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Speaker 13: and ability to go to church. It is a crime

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Speaker 13: to impede or get in the way of someone's exercise

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Speaker 13: of their faith. And if it can be found that

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Speaker 13: these folks were intentionally doing that, that's of course a crime.

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Speaker 13: Now I want to put a caveato. Here's me as

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Speaker 13: the lawyer. I want to put a caveato. Mat. It

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Speaker 13: gets tricky when you're talking about the gray area between

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Speaker 13: protests and attacking someone's church, right, Like, if you're a Catholic,

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Speaker 13: you're a Protestant, you're Jewish or whatever, and I am

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Speaker 13: impeding you from going to church because I don't like

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Speaker 13: your views.

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Speaker 7: Now, of course that's a crime.

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Speaker 13: If it's I'm here and even entering the church yelling

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Speaker 13: or expressing views that might be seen by a court

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Speaker 13: as protected First Amendment activity. Now, it's all going to

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Speaker 13: depend on what you know, what gets established by prosecutors,

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Speaker 13: and how the people you know, each individual protester, what

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Speaker 13: they're specifically charged with like there are reasons one can

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Speaker 13: be charged, but I just want to be clear, it's

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Speaker 13: it's really as a matter of bla not a slam

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Speaker 13: dunk in either direction on this on this one.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying, you're saying, as a lawyer, you could

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Speaker 2: think of reasons why a group of people, an angry mob,

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Speaker 2: could bust into a church and start accosting the pastor

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Speaker 2: and yelling at the parishioners.

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Speaker 3: And they might not have commits.

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Speaker 13: Just depends on exactly who and exactly what they did

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Speaker 13: when you frame it that way. Of course, if it's

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Speaker 13: an angry mob yelling at a pastard, number one could

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Speaker 13: be an active trespass, right, and that's a crime. The

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Speaker 13: problem with churches, right is that they necessarily buy their

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Speaker 13: nature are all are welcome, so there's a sign of

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Speaker 13: the dorses that anybody come in. Like, so one can

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Speaker 13: engage in behavior that I couldn't do at your house

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Speaker 13: at a church. I'm just laying out the legal arguments, man,

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Speaker 13: I'm not endorsing any of this. This is the kinds

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Speaker 13: of stuff that will use to attack their indictments of

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Speaker 13: in fact they're charged with a crime. But of course,

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Speaker 13: as even if we're even if we don't reach the

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Speaker 13: point of convicting people for this kind of conduct, certainly

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Speaker 13: entering churches and yelling or being disruptive, that's there are

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Speaker 13: better ways for one to make their views known, even

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Speaker 13: if they have a problem with Ice or even the

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Speaker 13: individual pastor who's at the head of the church. There

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Speaker 13: are just different ways to do it, even if even

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Speaker 13: if he can't be convicted for.

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Speaker 2: So according to the according to one of these posts

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Speaker 2: I'm reading here, it says one of the people charge

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Speaker 2: is named William Kelly. It says he's being charged with

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Speaker 2: conspiracy to deprive rights, which is our ceteral crime, and

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Speaker 2: violating the Face Act eighteen USC. Two forty eight for

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Speaker 2: his involvement in the Saint Paul Church rights. I assume

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Speaker 2: that's what everybody's being charged with. Also, it is not

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Speaker 2: so there's these reports that Don Lemmon they wanted to

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Speaker 2: charge limit, and then there's other people saying that a

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Speaker 2: federal magistrate judge wouldn't sign off on it, but that

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Speaker 2: the Attorney General might be able to get around that.

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Speaker 2: It's just really opaque to me what's happened to Don Lemon.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 13: I don't, and it's you know, look, it's hard. As

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Speaker 13: a general matter, it is it is hard to charge

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Speaker 13: journalists with anything.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 13: It is a difficult issue because of the First Amendment

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Speaker 13: questions I was talking about here. Even if someone is

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Speaker 13: behaving in a way that some could see as disruptive,

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Speaker 13: it gets tricky to charge them with a crime. And

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Speaker 13: certainly if the world's getting shaken up by the fact

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Speaker 13: that there are a lot of independent journalists now, Don

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Speaker 13: Lemon being one of them, but he is still engaged

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Speaker 13: in the act of what we would broadly regard as

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Speaker 13: protected speech. It'll all come down to again, specifically, what

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Speaker 13: was he doing at the time of the conduct that

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Speaker 13: people think he should be charged with, and then you

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Speaker 13: go from there. So but again it's just not as

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Speaker 13: straightforward as folks are getting charged with entering a church

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Speaker 13: and then therefore it's absolutely okay to charge Don Lemon

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Speaker 13: with a crime.

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Speaker 7: Maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll probably get more details on this here in

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Speaker 2: the next hour or two.

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Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye on it.

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Speaker 2: That voy you're hearing Elliot Williams, you see him on CNN,

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Speaker 2: one of our legal eagles on CNN. Former federal prosecutor Elliott.

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Speaker 2: You have a new book out call Five Bullets. This

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Speaker 2: is the story of Bernie Gets. This story captivated New

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Speaker 2: York City and really the nation in nineteen eighty four

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Speaker 2: and in the months beyond. So for our listeners who

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Speaker 2: don't remember this story or aren't familiar with Bernie Gets,

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Speaker 2: why don't we do this in a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 2: give us the story of Bernie Gets, tell us what happened.

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Speaker 2: Then we're going to take a break, and then I

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Speaker 2: want to get into the book on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Who is Bernie Gets and why did he need a

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Speaker 2: book written about it?

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Speaker 13: And I would think that a lot of people who

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Speaker 13: are listeners of the Scott Jennings Show, who care a

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Speaker 13: lot about public safety and think about these issues, will

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Speaker 13: remember this story. Bernie Gets is a guy on the

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Speaker 13: New York City subway in nineteen eighty four, says he

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Speaker 13: was mugged by four black or attempted to be mugged

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Speaker 13: by four black teenagers, took out his gun was not licensed,

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Speaker 13: and shot the four of them, seriously wounding three and

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Speaker 13: really really seriously wounding one, leaving him paralyzed and brain damage.

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Speaker 13: Now it Gets everything about else about the case is

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Speaker 13: polarizing and complicated from was he threatened by the guys

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Speaker 13: or simply asked for money? That was a big question

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Speaker 13: at the trial, and people it's like a rar shock test,

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Speaker 13: you know, one of those inc block tests. Everybody sees

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Speaker 13: something different in this case what they want to see.

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Speaker 13: The big thing though, and where it gets polarizing, is

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Speaker 13: that for many people, Bernard Gets was a hero. New

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Speaker 13: York City was really, really, really unsafe at the time.

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Speaker 13: Crime rate was through the roof, homicide rate was through

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Speaker 13: the roof, and he did what many people sort of

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Speaker 13: felt they wanted to do and needed to be done.

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Speaker 13: Many other people saw him as a bigot who just

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Speaker 13: sort of opened fire on black folks. Very polarizing case.

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Speaker 13: We can talk about it. On the other side.

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Speaker 3: That's Elliott Williams seeing in Legal Analyst.

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Speaker 2: He is the author of a new book called Five Bullets,

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Speaker 2: The story of Bernie Gets, New York's explosive eighties in

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Speaker 2: the subway vigilante trial that divided the nation. I think

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Speaker 2: your book, Elliott, is timely, because we've seen other cases

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Speaker 2: in New York City and in other places where the

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Speaker 2: term vigilante has been thrown out.

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Speaker 3: I want to get your on the other side of

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Speaker 3: this break.

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Speaker 2: I want to get your compare and contrast the Bernie

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Speaker 2: get situation to some of the other so called vigilante

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Speaker 2: trials that we've seen. I also want to ask you

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Speaker 2: a question when we come back. Think about this today.

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Speaker 2: The Arizona Attorney General has more, in my opinion, than

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Speaker 2: implied that the States stand your ground law may allow

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Speaker 2: people in Arizona to shoot at or open fire on

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Speaker 2: ICE agents who may be out there enforcing federal law.

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Speaker 2: They might think of themselves as vigilantes. We'll get Elliott

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Speaker 2: Williams on all of that. This is the Scott Sheenning Show.

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Speaker 2: You're on Salem. It's common sense for the American people.

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Speaker 2: We're broadcasting live from Little Rock, Arkansas, and we want

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Speaker 2: to have you come back with us after this break.

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Speaker 3: Common sense, stay with us. Elliott is next.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're telling me where you have to talk about

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Speaker 2: relief factor. I was under the impression that we're a

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Speaker 2: And try it out on relief Factor. Elliot Williams is

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Speaker 2: still with us. When we come back. It's Scott jennings On.

893
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: The book is called Five Bullets, the story of Bertie Getz,

894
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: New York's explosives eighties and the subway vigilante trial that

895
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Speaker 2: divided the nation. The author is Elliott Williams, seeing in

896
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Speaker 2: Legal Analyst, and he is our guest here on the

897
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: show today. Elliott, your book, by the way I should say,

898
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Speaker 2: is out. It is available. You can go on Amazon

899
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Speaker 2: and get the book. Did you yourself record the audible verse?

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Speaker 13: God, Yes, And I actually got a big kick out

901
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Speaker 13: of doing the audible version. I don't know how you

902
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Speaker 13: felt about yours.

903
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Speaker 2: I enjoyed doing it, and I've listened to some of

904
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Speaker 2: it and it was interesting. You know, they make you

905
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Speaker 2: read it very slowly, a lot more slowly than I

906
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Speaker 2: would normally talk. And I know there's a there's a

907
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Speaker 2: technical reason for this.

908
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Speaker 13: Now, Well, here's the question I have for you. Did

909
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Speaker 13: you have you if you've listened to any parts of it?

910
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Speaker 13: Have you caught like chapters where you clearly had recorded

911
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 13: one at five pm after a day of recording, and

912
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 13: then the next chapter you hear it and realize, oh yeah,

913
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Speaker 13: oh that was like eight o'clock in the morning. I'm

914
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Speaker 13: refreshed and it just had a cup of coffee and

915
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Speaker 13: feeling good. Your voice sound it's totally different a few

916
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Speaker 13: hours later.

917
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you can sound different. And you can

918
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Speaker 2: also hear it over time, like if you do a

919
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Speaker 2: four or five hour recording session, like you sound different

920
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Speaker 2: in hour one than you do that an hour five,

921
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Speaker 2: that's for sure.

922
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Speaker 3: So the book is about Bernie Getz.

923
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Speaker 2: This was this vigilante subway trial in New York City,

924
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Speaker 2: and you note that Gets, in your book, had this

925
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Speaker 2: feeling that the elites were failing to keep folks safe,

926
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Speaker 2: and this in some ways led him to become the vigilante.

927
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Speaker 2: I sense this is becoming more common in modern politics.

928
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Speaker 2: Do you draw any lines between the Gets situation in

929
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Speaker 2: eighty four and some of the things we're seeing in

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Speaker 2: our current affairs today?

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Speaker 7: Elliott, absolutely, you know.

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Speaker 13: I think a number of the biggest, high profile, whether

933
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Speaker 13: you want to use the word vigilante or folks who

934
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Speaker 13: simply used violent or deadly force in public and got

935
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Speaker 13: celebrated for it, many of them had in common this

936
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Speaker 13: idea that elites, for lack of a better term, we're

937
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Speaker 13: not keeping the public safe. Kyle Rittenhouse to some extent,

938
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Speaker 13: Daniel Penny, although he didn't really express many political views,

939
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Speaker 13: he kept his mouth shut quite a bit. Daniel Penny,

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Speaker 13: the guy who choked someone to death in the New

941
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Speaker 13: York City subway, who was having a sort of a

942
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Speaker 13: psychiatric episode.

943
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Speaker 7: The big one.

944
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Speaker 13: And this may come as a bit of a curveball

945
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Speaker 13: to you and anyone else listening to this, but Luigi

946
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Speaker 13: Mangione is another one who just felt that the existing

947
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Speaker 13: social order was failing ordinary people. It was actually and

948
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Speaker 13: again this is not anything positive about Luigi Mangione. It

949
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Speaker 13: was a horrific act and he should be punished to

950
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Speaker 13: the policy center, the law. But if you look at

951
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Speaker 13: what motivated or anivated him when he's talking, a lot

952
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Speaker 13: of it is all the elites and the fat cats

953
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Speaker 13: aren't keeping us safe. Now when I interviewed Bernie Gattz.

954
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Speaker 2: But Luigi, But Luigi was not under any But Luigi

955
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Speaker 2: was not under any imminent.

956
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Speaker 7: No, no, not at all.

957
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Speaker 2: I want to be clear healthcare Yets was on the

958
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Speaker 2: subway with people and he argued that they were in

959
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: fact threatening his personal and I just want.

960
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Speaker 13: To make that absolutely clear. It wasn't a self defense going.

961
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Speaker 13: It's more just someone using violent force and being celebrated

962
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Speaker 13: for it by millions and millions of people. Now, Bernie

963
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Speaker 13: Gets I interviewed him for the book and he and frankly,

964
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Speaker 13: no one has interviewed Bernard gets for a book. There's

965
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Speaker 13: there's other books have sort of covered the subject, but

966
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Speaker 13: no one actually sat down with him. He really sees

967
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Speaker 13: it as a failure of the system. In fact, you

968
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Speaker 13: were talking about Chris Cuomo earlier a bunch in the

969
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Speaker 13: show and his comments about you Bernie Gets is obsessed

970
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Speaker 13: to this day with Mario Cuomo, the governor of New

971
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Speaker 13: York through the nineteen eighties, who he blames for like

972
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Speaker 13: eight times in my interview with him, including randomly sending

973
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Speaker 13: me a photo of Mario Cuomo on the cover of

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Speaker 13: New York Times magazine.

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Speaker 7: He just blames Mario.

976
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Speaker 13: Dude, Like, don't get me started on my relationship now

977
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Speaker 13: with Bernie Gets but because he's emailing me stuff all

978
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Speaker 13: the time, but now just his thoughts. But he feels

979
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Speaker 13: like Mario Cuomo was the face of of liberal politicians

980
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 13: who just didn't care and didn't try to take care

981
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Speaker 13: of the public. Right, And he still sort of lives

982
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 13: refre in Bernie gets his head. But no, he truly

983
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Speaker 13: believes it's the elites and the media. They go to

984
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Speaker 13: the same parties, they scratch each other's backs, and they

985
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Speaker 13: don't look out for the public safety of the public.

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean, public safety the public? You

987
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 7: know what I mean?

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00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, I mean we hear a lot of

989
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: this conversation these days, and my suspicion is people are

990
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 2: going to read your book if they've not heard the story,

991
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 2: they'll be fascinated by it. If they remember the story,

992
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: they're going to learn things that you've uncovered, particularly in

993
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: your interview with Bernie Getz. Either way, it's a book

994
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: that I think will be fascinating to people. The book

995
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 2: is called Five Bullets, The Story of Bernie Getz, New

996
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 2: York's explosive eighties and the subway vigilante trial that divided

997
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Speaker 2: the nation.

998
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: The author is Elliott Williams. It is available now. Go

999
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: to Amazon.

1000
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 2: If you're looking for an interesting read on a criminal

1001
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: justice story that did, in fact captivate the country and

1002
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: in some ways the world, Elliott's got it, and the

1003
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 2: reviews I'm hearing are going to be great. Five Bullets

1004
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: by Elliott Williams. Get your copy today. Elliott, thanks for

1005
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: coming on. We'll take a break. When we come back.

1006
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Speaker 2: Sitting right next to me will be the Governor of Arkansas.

1007
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Speaker 2: Sarah Huckabee Sanders is here. You don't want to miss

1008
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 2: this conversation. Common Sense for the American People'll be right back.

1009
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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, January twenty second. It's common sense for

1010
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: the American people. You're getting it from Salem. It's the

1011
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: Scott Jennings Show. We're broadcasting a lot today from Little Rock, Arkansas,

1012
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: and we are in the state capitol and we are

1013
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 2: in the Governor's office as the guests of my next guest,

1014
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders, one of the greatest governors in America,

1015
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: and she joins us live here on the Scott Jennings Show.

1016
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Speaker 3: First of all, thank you for the hospitality and thanks

1017
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 3: for joining us.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely, we're so glad that you're in Arkansas, and I

1019
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,959
Speaker 14: wish we were welcoming you with a little bit better weather,

1020
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 14: but we're really excited that you're here, and excited for

1021
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 14: the message that you're going to bring to the people

1022
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Speaker 14: of Arkansas, and just such a big fan and supporter

1023
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 14: of yours, and so really glad that you're in our state.

1024
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 3: Well, you're very nice to say that.

1025
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Speaker 2: I'm very honored to be here, and I'm going to

1026
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Speaker 2: stop by the Right to Life dinner tonight here in

1027
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: Little Rock and look forward to seeing conservatives and people

1028
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: who believe in the inherent value of every human life

1029
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: this evening. It was an honor to get invited to

1030
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Speaker 2: do that. You reference the weather, Governor, I want to

1031
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: start there. Arkansas is going to get some snow and

1032
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: some ice. You're obviously in charge of emergency management here

1033
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: and preparing for something like this. What's it like being

1034
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,919
Speaker 2: a governor when you know you're going to get hit

1035
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: with what some people are saying is a once in

1036
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Speaker 2: a generation storm.

1037
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Speaker 14: Well, right now, we're kind of in the wade and

1038
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 14: see phase and really trying to make sure that we

1039
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 14: have resources in as many places around the state as possible,

1040
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 14: in constant communication with our entergy and our co op

1041
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 14: electric providers, trying to make or that as much as

1042
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Speaker 14: we can we prevent people from losing power, and that

1043
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 14: we are able if people do, we can get it

1044
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 14: back on quickly, clearing roadways and so working closely with

1045
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Speaker 14: Transportation department. You know, we have a website called help

1046
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Speaker 14: Arkansas dot com, So we try to make it as

1047
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Speaker 14: easy for people as possible, give them one location to

1048
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Speaker 14: find out about road closures, where they can get assistance

1049
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 14: if needed, warming shelters, things like that, all in one stop.

1050
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Speaker 10: So we're trying to kind.

1051
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Speaker 14: Of put all the pieces together and hope it's not

1052
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Speaker 14: quite as bad as they say it is. That's my

1053
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 14: official capacity. In my mom capacity, I'm like everybody else.

1054
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Speaker 14: I was ordering gloves and snow boots because nothing we

1055
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Speaker 14: had last year fits this year and seeing what can

1056
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Speaker 14: get delivered to our house into twenty four hour time span,

1057
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Speaker 14: and so our kids are hoping for a lot more snow.

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Speaker 14: As governor, I'd like it to just blow right past

1059
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Speaker 14: our state.

1060
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Speaker 10: And keep on going.

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Speaker 14: But we have amazing crews through state Police, through our

1062
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Speaker 14: National Guard, through our Emergency Management Department that are all

1063
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Speaker 14: already on call and positioning in every part of Arkansas

1064
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Speaker 14: so that we're as prepared as possible to help people

1065
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Speaker 14: in need.

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Speaker 2: Now, I guess this will be the most significant weather

1067
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Speaker 2: event you've probably faced. I mean, you don't normally get

1068
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Speaker 2: this kind of winter weather. You have tornadoes you get

1069
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Speaker 2: and things of that nature. But as you start to

1070
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Speaker 2: prepare for it, you know, give us an idea of

1071
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Speaker 2: what goes on. You're convening people from across your cabinet,

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Speaker 2: You're convening the emergency services folks. Are you all also

1073
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Speaker 2: talking to governors and other states who are in the

1074
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Speaker 2: impacted zone here, because obviously when the power goes out,

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Speaker 2: it just doesn't go out in Arkansas, it goes out

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Speaker 2: in a lot of states on something like this.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, thankfully we have a diversified power grid and so

1078
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Speaker 14: I feel very confident in our teams and hopefully we

1079
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Speaker 14: don't have a significant outages, but there is a lot

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Speaker 14: of coordination. If you know, by chance we get missed

1081
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Speaker 14: and our neighbors in Texas or Tennessee or Missouri get hit,

1082
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Speaker 14: we want to be able to help provide resources and

1083
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 14: teams to get on the ground and vice versa. We're

1084
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Speaker 14: also very thankful that we have a secretarya at the

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Speaker 14: Department of Homeland Security, Secretary Christi nom Let a call

1086
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Speaker 14: this morning with governors across the country just to make

1087
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Speaker 14: sure we're all in coordination and letting other states know

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Speaker 14: what resources we have, what things we may need, and

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Speaker 14: trying to be as prepared on the front end as

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Speaker 14: we can be. You know that we don't get to

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Speaker 14: control mother nature, and so there's only so many things

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Speaker 14: you can do on the front end, and one of

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Speaker 14: our biggest things will be just making sure people get

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Speaker 14: what they need as quickly as possible, and so there

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Speaker 14: will be continued coordination. We do a daily call that

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Speaker 14: started earlier this week in preparation making sure all of

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Speaker 14: the various teams and components are in constant communication and

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Speaker 14: continue to provide service.

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Speaker 2: So I want to get into this call with Secretary

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Speaker 2: know thems. So this is the federal government, Homeland Security

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00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: coordinating with governors. Are you satisfied with happy with the

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Speaker 2: level of coordination you're getting it getting from federal officials

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Speaker 2: as everybody prepares for the weather here.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they've been excellent.

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Speaker 14: We've had a great relationship with the Department of Homeland

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Speaker 14: Security in FEMA and they've been very responsive. It helps

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Speaker 14: when we have a president too who takes our calls

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Speaker 14: and a secretary who does as well and have been Unfortunately,

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Speaker 14: Arkansas was hit with really bad tornadoes last year, some

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Speaker 14: devastating storms that swept through our state, and we've been

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00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 14: able to work in close coordination with the federal government

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Speaker 14: to provide assistance for those communities that were impacted significantly

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Speaker 14: last year.

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Speaker 2: I want to shift away from the weather, but I

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Speaker 2: want to stay on the topic of coordination and cooperation

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Speaker 2: with the federal government, and I want to talk more

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Speaker 2: about ice, not ice storm, but ice, immigrations and customs enforcement.

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Speaker 3: I want your opinion.

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Speaker 2: You're a governor, you're cooperating with and local officials here

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Speaker 2: in Arkansas are cooperating with the federal government when it

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Speaker 2: comes to immigration enforcement in Minnesota, and in Minneapolis that

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: cooperation does not exist. In fact, it's in some ways

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Speaker 2: an open state of rebellion up there against federal law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us what it looks like in a

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Speaker 2: state where you have cooperation between law enforcement agencies. There's

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Speaker 2: no chaos here in Arkansas when it comes to enforcing

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Speaker 2: federal law. Take us inside this cooperation and how it

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Speaker 2: leads to harmony really on the ground for the people

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Speaker 2: of your state.

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Speaker 14: Look, we want law and order. I think it is

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00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 14: very simple, and frankly, it's something every governor should want.

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Speaker 14: Why you would push back on that is beyond my comprehension,

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Speaker 14: and so we want to work closely with federal law enforcement.

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Speaker 14: We've been able to have great level of cooperation here

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Speaker 14: in the state of Arkansas. Our goal has been to

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Speaker 14: look for and help identify violent offenders and make that

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Speaker 14: our priority, and that's where we've spent our time and

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Speaker 14: had our law enforcement spend our time.

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Speaker 10: And we've also assisted in.

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Speaker 14: Other areas when we can help provide law and order,

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Speaker 14: like we are in Washington, d C. We've about one

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Speaker 14: hundred members of the Arkansas National Guard that are on

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Speaker 14: the ground in DC. And are preparing for an additional

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Speaker 14: ninety day extension. Every single member that is there on

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Speaker 14: the ground now volunteered to be there, and they've asked

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Speaker 14: to stay because they see the importance of their mission.

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Speaker 14: They see the difference that they're making, and that's what

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Speaker 14: we want to be part of, is bringing law and order,

1149
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 14: removing the chaos. We've been able to do that in Washington.

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Speaker 14: We want to continue to do that here in the state.

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Speaker 14: We were able to help on the border as well

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Speaker 14: when that was needed. Governor Greg Abbott called on other

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Speaker 14: Republican governors to send National Guard troops to the border

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Speaker 14: because back at that time, we had a president in

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Speaker 14: President Biden, who was not helping secure the border, and

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Speaker 14: so it fell on governors to step up, and Governor

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Speaker 14: of It did a great job of helping coordinate and

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01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 14: bring a lot of Republican governors together to put troops

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Speaker 14: on the border and really do, frankly, the job that

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01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 14: the federal government should have been doing. Now there's a

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Speaker 14: totally different mindset because we have a president who's actually

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Speaker 14: leading and doing the job of the federal government.

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Speaker 2: The border is closed. We've had narry border crossing for

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Speaker 2: the last eight months. All the focus is really now

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Speaker 2: on internal enforcement, and so here in Arkansas, I haven't

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01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: heard one story about any sort of chaotic situation. I've

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01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: not heard any stories about ICE agents clashing with local people.

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Speaker 2: I've not seen any. I'm looking out the window. I

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01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: don't see any rioting going on outside. I haven't heard

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Speaker 2: of any churches being invaded. I mean, as it relates

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Speaker 2: to what's going on here in your state and what

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Speaker 2: the report you get on this every day, are you

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Speaker 2: satisfied that ICE, CBP, all of the federal law enforcement

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Speaker 2: agencies at play are acting professionally, doing their job, doing

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Speaker 2: it efficiently. I assume some illegal aliens have been taken

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Speaker 2: away from Arkansas from what you've seen, are these people

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Speaker 2: doing their job and doing it in a professional and lawful.

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Speaker 14: Man from everything that we've seen here in the state

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Speaker 14: of Arkansas. Yes, and that's why we want to continue

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Speaker 14: that level of cooperation. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 14: we have laws for a reason, we want to enforce them,

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Speaker 14: we want people to follow them, and we're glad to

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Speaker 14: be able to partner and have multi agency coordination. I'm

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Speaker 14: not saying there will never be chaos in Arkansas, but

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Speaker 14: from what we've seen so far. We've been pleased with

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Speaker 14: a level of professionalism and the ability to coordinate across again,

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Speaker 14: multiple agencies.

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Speaker 3: That's Sarah Sanders.

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Speaker 2: She is the governor of Arkansas and we're in her

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Speaker 2: office today broadcasting this show. Thanks for the hospitality. Let

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Speaker 2: me shift gears to education ALEC. The organization just released

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Speaker 2: its new Education Freedom rankings. Arkansas came in third, so

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Speaker 2: you're right near the top of the list.

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Speaker 3: Sam.

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Speaker 2: Where I live in Kentucky, I think we were forty eight,

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Speaker 2: not as good. The difference is we got a Democrat

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Speaker 2: governor there, we got a Republican governor here. What did

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Speaker 2: you do here as a policy matter in Arkansas to

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Speaker 2: create this level of education freedom for the people of

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Speaker 2: your state.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, this has been the biggest priority that I had

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Speaker 14: coming into office, was to really transform education in our state.

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Speaker 14: Just a few years ago, Arkansas would have been right

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01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 14: there fighting Kentucky for the bottom of the pack. And frankly,

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Speaker 14: that's why I ran because I was tired of seeing

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Speaker 14: Arkansas be forty eighth and forty ninth and fiftieth in

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01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 14: so many cre key critical areas, specifically on education, and

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Speaker 14: so we really wanted to flip the system on its head.

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Speaker 14: And that's what we did through a one hundred and

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Speaker 14: fifty page piece of legislation. We like to say we

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Speaker 14: were one big, beautiful bill before that was a thing,

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Speaker 14: and we didn't just tinker around the edges. We did

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Speaker 14: everything from opening up universal school choice and we did

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Speaker 14: a phase in an approach where in year three it

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Speaker 14: is now open to every single student in the state

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Speaker 14: of Arkansas.

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Speaker 10: But we didn't stop there.

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Speaker 14: We didn't want that to be the only thing we

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01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 14: were doing because we knew there were a lot of

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Speaker 14: different things that students need. It's not just about being

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Speaker 14: able to go to a different school, but in the

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Speaker 14: schools that they're in, how do we elevate the experience

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Speaker 14: that they have. And one of the things that was

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Speaker 14: really important was rewarding and recognizing our educators, and so

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Speaker 14: we made the largest investment in public education in our

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Speaker 14: state at the same time that we were opening up

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Speaker 14: universal school choice. We gave every single teacher a state

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Speaker 14: a pay raise of at least two thousand dollars. We

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Speaker 14: raised our starting pay from being thirty six thousand, which

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Speaker 14: was at the very bottom. We were forty ninth in

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Speaker 14: the country. Now we're in top five, number one when

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Speaker 14: you adjust for cost of living, and so to go

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Speaker 14: from a starting pay of thirty six thousand to a

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Speaker 14: starting pay of fifty thousand, that's a big deal on

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Speaker 14: a state like Arkansas. It puts us on a competitive

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Speaker 14: level with states like Texas, is in Florida and California,

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Speaker 14: and that helps us recruit and retain a lot of

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Speaker 14: our best educators. We also gave merit based bonuses, and

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Speaker 14: so last year we were able to award nearly four

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Speaker 14: thousand educators with up to ten thousand dollars in bonuses.

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Speaker 14: And we're one of only two states in the country

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Speaker 14: that offers up to twelve weeks of paid maternity leave

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Speaker 14: for teachers, which is a big deal when seventy percent

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Speaker 14: of your teaching workforce in the state is female.

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Speaker 10: And so we've taken.

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Speaker 3: Care of the students and you've taken care of the teachers,

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Speaker 3: and it's working.

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Speaker 10: And it's working, and so that's what we wanted to see.

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Speaker 14: We knew that it couldn't just be a little bit,

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01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 14: but we had to do a lot of big things

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Speaker 14: if we wanted to see Arkansas move up.

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Speaker 10: And we're really proud of the progress we've made.

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Speaker 2: That voice you're hearing Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckbee Sanders. You're

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01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 2: going to hold on with us through a break because

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about your dad, who's former

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Speaker 2: governor here now ambassad Israel. I want to check in

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Speaker 2: on him. We're going to take a quick break. Stay

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Speaker 2: with us here. It's common sense for the American people.

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Speaker 2: More with Governor Sanders. When we come back live from

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Speaker 2: Little Rock, Arkansas. Things is here with common sense people,

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Speaker 2: and one of the most common sense governors in America

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Speaker 2: is sitting right next to me, Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

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Speaker 2: The natural state, so I saw it down in the cafe.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you've a beautiful capital.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: This here has been ex I know this sort of

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01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 2: attitude is set at the top.

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Speaker 3: You got it. You got it.

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Speaker 2: And of course you've spent a lot of time in

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Speaker 2: the Capitol and then the Governor's mansion in your life

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Speaker 2: because you the governor here and he's now our ambassador

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Speaker 2: to him last summer when I was in it, and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna see him again in February when I go

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Speaker 2: over there, I assume you're talking to him on a

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01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: regular basis, how is Ambassador Huckabee doing the right man

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Speaker 2: at the right of the most consequential diplomatic job.

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Speaker 14: Well it really my dad was made for. He's ever

1278
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 14: done in his life. This moment spared him to be

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01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 14: the ambassador. He's totally exhausted, but he loves every minute of.

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Speaker 15: It plane and he's so passionate about the people and

1281
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 15: there and such just a I think, a steadfast presence

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Speaker 15: in what is a very chaotic and difficult place to be.

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Speaker 10: But he's doing. Chance to go with my family at Christmas.

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01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 10: It's time to be.

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Speaker 14: There and for experience and to places where he walked

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01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 14: to hear my dad explain and tell and why Israel

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Speaker 14: is so important? Why important?

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Speaker 15: Uh?

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Speaker 10: Why he wanted to be there in sacrifice? Certain that.

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Speaker 2: Could have picked any diplomat prepared and particular job than Mike.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he was telling Israel like two

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01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: hundred times or something in his life. He knows people

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Speaker 2: in every corner of the country, he knows the history

1294
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Speaker 2: and oh, with this Middle East peace situation going on,

1295
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 2: something that I think people couldn't have imagined. And it's

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Speaker 2: in this war, bring home the living hostages f or

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Speaker 2: a lasting peace. That'll be better economic outcomes and security

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Speaker 2: outcomes over there. You obviously were Press secretary to President Trump.

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Speaker 2: You work there in the first term. Now you're serving

1300
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Speaker 2: as a governor, dealing with commentary or reflections on this

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01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 2: time around Trump two point zero what he's accomplishing.

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Speaker 14: Obviously, I agree with you very biased in your praise

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01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 14: of my dad. I don't think there's anybody more qualified

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Speaker 14: or better suited to be in the job that he's in,

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Speaker 14: and I think that the president perfect pick. But I

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Speaker 14: also think that the President has done such a great

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Speaker 14: job and showing courage when many people wouldn't have even

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Speaker 14: in the first administration, went to move to when he

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Speaker 14: was willing to take on and continue a relationship with

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Speaker 14: Israel and never once backing away from it, and then

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Speaker 14: his willingness to take action in the early days of

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Speaker 14: his time getting hot, he has leaned in in a

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Speaker 14: way that has made me very very proud of him

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Speaker 14: being back in the White House and also very thanks.

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Speaker 14: It's my dad is in what was a war zone,

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Speaker 14: and him to bring that level of stability to that

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Speaker 14: run of the world I think is I don't think

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Speaker 14: I've given him nearly enough credit for what he's been

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Speaker 14: able to accomplish.

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Speaker 2: Got about a minute ago, Governor, give you a personal question.

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Speaker 2: You're raising a young family here in the governor's office.

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Speaker 2: Great public service. I love you. They've learned about you

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Speaker 2: and met you a press secretary. Are we going to

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Speaker 2: see Governor Sanders back on the national stage at some

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Speaker 2: point in the future.

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Speaker 14: You know, right now, my goal is to get re

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Speaker 14: elected as the governor of Arkansas.

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Speaker 10: I feel pretty about it.

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Speaker 14: But you know, as you well know, the political environment

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Speaker 14: can change any day. So there's only two ways to run.

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Speaker 14: There is a famous politician that used to say that

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Speaker 14: there's only two ways to run scared post. And since

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Speaker 14: I'm not, we'll run like we're twenty points behind, proud

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Speaker 14: of what we've been able to accomplish here in the state.

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Speaker 14: I think people recognize that, and I'm excited for November.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're one of the best governors in the country.

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Speaker 2: You will be re elected, and people all over this

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Speaker 2: country are anxious to see uh you. That's all from

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Speaker 2: Little Rock that voice hearing today, Governor Huckabees sin.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's common sense for the American people Skype. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for listening.