WEBVTT - The Case for Modesty 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:07.040 Life audio of today's episode of Timeless Wisdom. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:09.480 You mentioned that you would like to do an hour 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:13.840 on modesty. I am really looking forward to that one. 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.360 You know, I'm so thankful you do this hour. But 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.200 I'm very curious to know in light of what you 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:25.200 have said. You know, I'm a Christian woman, but I 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:28.040 have worked very hard on my figure. Used to be 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.160 a fitness instructor. It's very important to me to look good. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:33.479 So I'm curious in light of what you said, what 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.520 is in your mind appropriate dress for a Christian woman 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:40.200 who wants to look good. 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:45.280 That's coming up on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Welcome 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.560 to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of hours 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.960 of Dennis's lectures, courses in classic radio programs, and to 0:00:52.960 --> 0:01:00.000 purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:01.720 Old Fashion. I like two sexes. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:03.080 I don't know. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:04.400 I think all of a sudden, I don't. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.240 Like being married to what is known as a new woman. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.560 I want a wife, not a competitor, competator. Competitor. 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.160 Talk about a bit this crying in the morning things, depression, 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:14.520 you know, let's get that fixed. 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:17.479 That's what men think, isn't it what Unless you've got 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.000 the answer, unless you can say, oh, I know this 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.000 bloke in the essex Radical fix that, and there's no 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:23.759 point bothering. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:25.679 How do you write women so well? 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.720 I think of a man and I take away reason 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.480 and accountability. I love him, I love him and I 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:34.479 don't care what you think. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.759 I love him for the for the man he wants 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.920 to be, and I love him for the man that 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:41.520 he almost is. 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:47.280 What do people have rows about him? Money? It's sex sex, 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:52.600 money he wants, she doesn't want, she wants, he doesn't want. Women. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.920 I've always been a big problem to me. Doctor fusspend 0:01:59.040 --> 0:01:59.600 by listening. 0:01:59.640 --> 0:02:01.680 Doctor, Yes, yes, yes, go, I'm gone. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.560 I love it every week, Hi everybody, Dennis Prager the 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:11.600 Male Female Hour. Sometimes the Male Female Hour is so honest, 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.519 and that's what it's about that I tell you it's 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.079 not a good idea for kids under ten to hear 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.400 it today. I think I think we're pretty free. Is 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.720 that is that fair to say? I think so. I 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:26.760 mean you'll make up your mind, but I think so. Hi, everybody. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.320 I talk about the real real issues of men and 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.720 women on the Male Female Hour, and I want to 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:35.919 read to you a letter I received after last week's show, 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:42.280 and it came from a an Orthodox in fact Asidic woman, 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.880 in fact one I know who is the wife of 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:51.400 a prominent Habad rabbi. That's that's an ultra orthodox Asidics 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:58.720 group in Judaism, and she brought Usapachinsky is her name, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.960 and she's very, very bright and writes me periodically. This 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.840 is what she wrote last week, Thank you Duch for 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:09.280 the great Men Women Hour yesterday, and it was about 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.040 the visual, the effect of the visual on men and 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:16.360 how different it is from the effect of the visual 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:20.720 on women. In fact, she notes, I loved your line 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.320 about women being more interested in looking at photos of 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:28.680 table legs than men's legs, which is something I said 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.880 on the show, which is true. Whereas if you asked men, 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.080 would you rather look at women's legs or table legs, 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.560 they would think that you were nuts. It's like asking 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.000 would you rather breathe or suffocate? It's in that realm 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.480 of the obvious. So thank you for the show. I 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:49.320 talked to as you mentioned her husband, because it is 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.160 something we discussed many times before. You said on the program, 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.880 this is something your husband would not tell you, but 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.200 he does not fall into that category at all, and 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:59.200 which is a credit to both of you. By the way, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.840 now here is today's theme, She writes, Have you ever 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:07.640 asked men if they like to have women around them 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.000 dressed scantily or if they would prefer to have them 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:16.840 more modestly dressed? Of course, every man would instinctively say 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.160 the first, but I wonder if, after a little bit 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:24.479 of thought, they might just prefer the second choice. You 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.240 mentioned that you would like to do an hour on modesty. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:32.159 I am really looking forward to that one. Well, broh, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.680 here is your request is granted. I feel sort of 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:41.120 like a Laddin's lamp. Herebbed she rubbed on the lab 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.560 and vola, which, by the way, shows I read your mail, folks. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.599 I can't respond. I didn't even get the chance to 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.760 respond to her, but I do. And if you have 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:55.560 thoughts and reactions, they are absolutely invaluable to me. I 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.159 was asked this question a long time ago, and I'm 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.960 very open on these issues, and that's why people ask me, Well, Dennis, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.039 I sweat something like, so, as a man, do you 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:11.159 like when women wear very revealing clothing or scantily dressed? 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:17.840 As Brohasapachinski put it, and I said, and this is 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:21.400 this was a key answer. The male in me loves it. 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:27.920 The man in me doesn't see. Every man who thinks 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:32.120 forget the values issue. Even every man who thinks, just thinks, 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:38.680 knows that the man and the male are in conflict. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.960 That's why I call this the male female hour. Incidentally, 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.760 it's deeper than the man woman hour. It's the male 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:51.719 female hour. See, women have to fight the female, but 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.720 different parts. The problem, and I've said this and we'll 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.520 do another show on this, is that girls are not 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.480 raised to fight the female in themselves. Because our society, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:04.839 because of the age of stupidity in which we live, 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:09.159 has announced that everything female is naturally beautiful. It's the 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:14.320 males that have to have their aggression, their sexual predatory nature, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.560 which is true. We do, we men do have to 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:20.120 fight those things. Do women have nothing to fight in 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:24.800 their minute nature? Okay, that's a separate subject obviously, But 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:29.799 so the answer is for a man who thinks this through. 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:35.240 Of course, it's exciting when women show their bodies. That's 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:39.000 the point of it. It literally is exciting. Yes, that's 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.119 how you excite men, at least those who aren't blind, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:46.200 and I'm not being facetious blind. Men are stimulated in 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.159 other ways, and I'm not saying it's the only way, 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:52.960 but is it is the first way? The visual we 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:57.160 talked about that previous show, and you're free to download it, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.720 and you should, in fact and play it for one another. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.560 Easier often for a wife to hear a stranger than 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.520 her husband, or and vice versa, for a woman to 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:10.160 hear a stranger, perhaps than his wife saying certain things. 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:16.440 So es, yes, we men are excited by the visual, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.840 no question. So do we like the micro skirt, Well, 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:24.440 we're excited by the micro skirt. Do we like it, Well, 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:33.800 that's a different story. That's why men love women in bikinis. 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:40.760 Men love women in short skirts. Well, it's not precise. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:46.280 Men are excited by women showing more of their more 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.800 of their body. Do we like it? Well, it depends 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:52.760 what like means, and I'm not being Clintonian. It depends 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.440 what the definition of is is. It depends what like means. Yes, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:00.280 if you like being excited, especially by someone that you 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:06.760 will be able to consummate that excitement with, preferably hopefully 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:13.560 ideally your wife, that's spectacular. But as a general rule, Well, 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.920 it depends how much a man wishes to be governed 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:23.640 by his libido, because every time, not even in just life, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:29.880 in picture, this happens, he's distracted. When I was much younger, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:33.120 I remember, I remember a friend who was a real character, 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.400 who pointed out an attractive woman walking in the street 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.960 in a short skirt. And the truth is, I bumped 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.000 into the car in front of me at a red light, 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.360 which brought him so much joy that I couldn't I 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:54.839 couldn't even be angry. I was disgusted at myself. I mean, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.440 it was two miles per hour. I was already, you know, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.040 basically stopped at the red light. But that gives you 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.800 an idea of the power of the visual and it 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.520 is distracting. It is entirely distracting. Absolutely. That is one 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.840 of the reasons that men love to have all men's 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.600 groups much more than women like to have all women's groups. 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:17.760 We like to have we like to have men's clubs 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:21.080 and golf clubs. And when rotary clubs were all men 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.439 not to discuss business. I was a member of the 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:27.560 rotary club for three years. The guys weren't talking business, 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.960 they were just talking guy stuff. There was a piece 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:38.439 that reigned because there was no sexual tension. Now there 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.439 were times it's fantastic to be with women. My point 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:44.120 is that hardly that all. I'm a moderate on this, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.679 you know, so don't think that because I say X, 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:53.280 therefore y is never good. But this notion is that 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.360 men like it. No, men are stimulated by it. And 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.400 young girls who were listening, high school college girls, please 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.160 know that what you often call attractive is to a 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.120 man just a sexual. Come on. He doesn't know the 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:11.520 word attractive. He knows the word turn on. If you 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.480 want to turn men on, and that's a high for you, fine, 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:19.160 know what you're doing. My point here is not moral judgment. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.520 I make them all the time, moral judgments. But the 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:26.240 point here is clarity. You'll make the moral judgments. Now, 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:30.720 let me tell you a story that especially young women 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:35.840 should know. I was the director of an educational institute 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:41.000 in California for seven years, and in the summer, during 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.560 the year, couples came, but during the summer college and 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:48.360 graduate age students, in other words, kids nineteen to twenty 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.800 five came. I was only in my late twenties and 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.120 early thirty, so I was very close in age to them. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:57.800 But I was the director of this institute, so boys 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.320 and girls, young men and young women ages nineteen to 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:05.200 twenty five would come. It was the summer. And I 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.440 will tell you when we come back, the story of 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:12.920 a particularly attractive, particularly well endowed young woman and what 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.360 she said to me one day, because I met with 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.400 every one of the students privately, and she and they 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.840 opened up to me because for reasons i'll explain later, 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.000 but she did. I'll tell you what she said about 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.319 the way the guys looked at her and my response 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:33.200 and her parents' response. One eighth Praguer seven seven six 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.760 The Male Female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.800 This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:50.440 Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.959 Prager, it is hi, everybody. You're listening to the Dennis 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.800 Prager Show, the Male Female Hour, and I've really explained today, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.040 perhaps better than ever before, why I call it the 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.000 male Female Hour or not the man woman Hour. You 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:05.319 might recall that before I began this hour, it's one 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.679 of three dedicated hours that I have on the Dennis 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.520 Prager Show. One is to Happiness, one is to ultimate issues, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:13.440 and one is to male female and this is the 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:18.240 most recent of the three. And the debate was man 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.160 women or male female. But the male female is goes 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.880 more primal. And as I said, the man fights the 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.360 male and the woman has to fight the female nature 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:34.080 in them both. And so I'm talking to you today, 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.200 especially in conjunction with the show that I did, on 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:41.680 the power of the visual to stimulate men, far far, far, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:46.360 infinitely more powerful than the visual stimulates women. It's just 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:49.760 a fact. I mean, that's why that line I used 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.920 about would a woman rather look at a magazine of 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:58.880 men's legs or you know, furniture legs, there's no comparison, 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.000 whereas a man, you know, men by journals of women's legs, 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:10.920 So there's no comparison. That's the way we're made. Now 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.680 in light of that, the issue arises of well, so 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.920 then what's the answer. Do men really like scantily clad women? 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.240 They say they do, but do they really? It's written 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:25.880 to me by a what they call an ultra orthodox, 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.640 a woman, the wife of a rabbi, and they run 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.840 a wonderful center. And in fact, in this case, I 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:38.640 know who it is. And she she raised the question 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.080 and it's a very important question. And my answer, because 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:46.079 I've been asked this before, is the male in us, 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:51.160 I'll speak for me. The male in me loves scantily 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:57.439 clad women. The man in me doesn't except under circumstances 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:04.200 where it's it's desirable and important. Like with your wife. 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:09.720 That's that's the ideal, and she should and she should 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.680 play that role. By the way, with her husband. That's 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.120 a very important thing that you can do for your husband, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.199 which we've talked about and we'll talk about again. Now 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:19.680 let me tell you the story, and then I want 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.520 to take your calls. One eight prager seven seven six 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.440 one eight p r A g Er seven seven six, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.240 which is eight seven seven two four three triple seven 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.280 six eight seven seven two four to three triple seven six. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.680 So I was the director of an institute which had 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.640 summer sessions. We had ninety in July ninety in August 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.360 of college aged and older. Eight nineteen to twenty five 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.520 year old kids would come as was in southern California, 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.640 and they'd spend entire month living there, and of course 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.880 they dressed as they would dress. You know, there was 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.680 no code as it were, of dress at the at 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:03.400 the institute. I met with every one of the ninety privately. 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.800 That was one of my tasks. How are you doing, 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.360 you know, open up to me about how you're reacting 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:14.520 to the program, how do you feel about the other kids, etc. Etc. So, anyway, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.880 there was one young woman I remember, viv I think 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.040 she was on the younger side. I think she was nineteen. 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.960 She was very beautiful, and she was she had a 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.320 terrific figure and well endowed, and she let everybody know it. 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:34.680 That's how she dressed. She let everybody know it by 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:38.040 the way she dressed. And so she came into my 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.880 office and by the way, to my everlasting credit, if 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:44.160 I go to heaven, it will be because even though 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:46.960 I was a bachelor and I was only a few 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:53.800 years older, I was very, very non flirtatious, totally removed 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:57.440 and totally professional. I must say, I'm very proud of 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.680 myself or the way I acted then. But it would 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.280 have the institute would have killed any values that I 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.440 preached if in any way I were perceived as not 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.160 even forget doing anything, just coming on to any of 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.960 the young women. So therefore, they felt that they could 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.960 open up to me, which was one of the important things, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.600 and they could. So I was talking to her in 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.800 my office and I said, oh, you know, I asked 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:23.720 her the same questions I generally asked the other kids. 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.320 And I said, how are you getting along with the kids? 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.120 He said, all right? But I think, you know, for 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:32.520 whatever reason, you know, the guys here, you know, they 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.440 treat me like I'm some sex object. And I don't 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.640 feel that I could ever really just have a conversation 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.400 with them. So I said to her, do you think 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:46.080 that you might be doing anything that causes them to 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.560 regard you in that way? And she said what do 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:55.680 you mean? And of course I'm thinking. I was thinking, 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.440 what do you mean? What do I mean? We live 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.840 on the same planet. But I didn't say that. I said, well, 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:09.359 to be perfectly honest, it's the way you dress, You 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.679 reveal your body, you reveal your breasts wherever, pretty much, 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:18.640 whatever you wear, and so you are saying to all 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.760 these guys around here, look at me as a sex object. 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:28.840 That's what you're telling them to do. And I took 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:31.840 a gamble, because she could have said, you know, who 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:33.600 the hell are you to talk to me that way? 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.040 Or I'm going to call my parents. And I thought 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.000 about that in advance, and I thought, well, if she 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:42.719 wants to call her parents, there's a telephone, it is 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.399 go right ahead, there's a photo in the next room. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.640 And in fact, as it turns out, she did call 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:56.159 her parents, and guess what, her parents called me and 0:17:56.359 --> 0:18:02.639 thanked me. They were so great because the parent saying 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:07.439 this is so often less effective than somebody else saying this. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.680 And I will never forget when I finally met the parents, 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:16.239 they just were so grateful to me. They said, we 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:18.400 don't know how to get this point across to her. 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.520 And she was a very sweet girl. This was you know, 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.960 she was. This was not, you know, some slutty type girl, 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:31.680 not in the least. She was naive, as almost all 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.359 women are at the beginning, because how could they possibly know. 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:41.080 They know the word attractive, they don't know the word exciting. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:45.399 Turn on. Therefore, just looking, I'm just showing, and it's 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:53.879 an attractive dress, attractive haltertop right, it's an attractive short skirt. 0:18:56.880 --> 0:18:59.800 I'm not telling you what to wear. I'm telling you 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:05.119 to be aware of what the effects are, and that 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:11.159 the notion of men liking this is a very complex question. 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.680 The male in us likes it, the man in us 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:22.320 if we want to be able to not be distracted continually, 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.360 is not a big fan of it. That's the answer 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:32.719 to the question as written by this religious woman who 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:37.920 wrote to me one eight Prager seven seven six. And 0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.639 now I go to your calls, and I would like 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.639 you look, if I'm willing to be open, and you 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.040 know who I am, you should certainly be willing to 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:51.000 open because people don't know who you are, so this 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.320 should be very helpful. And you might want to play 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:57.040 this for your young daughters, your high school or college 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.760 daughters or nieces. You are listening to the Deni Prager Show, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:01.960 The Male Female Hour. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.040 This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 0:20:11.560 --> 0:20:15.800 Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:18.720 Prager it is, and this is the Male Female Hour. 0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.080 Every week. This hour is devoted and very openly, as 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:29.280 you have obviously noticed by now, to men women male 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:34.680 female issues. Women's dress is the current issue based on 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:36.639 the show of course that we did, on the power 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:41.080 of the visual to arouse men and how do men 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.320 like women's dress? The question posed to me by a 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:50.560 religious woman. And let's go to your calls now. Because 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.840 of the importance. And by the way, I have to say, 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:58.240 having said the importance of non provocative dress, I don't 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:04.879 cook to the I don't go to the other extreme. However, 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.119 the other extreme, of course is the chador, is the 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:12.359 burka is where a woman is entirely covered. I find 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:16.959 that immoral, dehumanizing and degrading. Can I be more strong 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.040 if I could, I would say it, I just don't 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.280 know how to be stronger in my condemnation of that. 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.520 In fact, frankly, between the two, I would take the 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:31.240 immodest extreme over over that as as as much as 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:35.960 I think that that's a problem, And so what does 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.080 that mean? Then what does it mean? I mean? And 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.560 here people have to be I think there has to 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:44.960 be a common sense understanding, because I mean, the fact is, 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.119 why do they used to say a well turned ankle 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:50.080 when women only showed ankles? It was it was something. 0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.600 Women's skin is women's skin to men, that's the way 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.879 it is. That's the way men are made. And I 0:21:55.920 --> 0:21:59.919 am one of them. It's not abstract. I propos of this. 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.960 Let's go to Denver, Colorado, and a vita. Hello Avita, 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:04.040 Dennis Prager. 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.080 Hello Dennis Frager. I am I'm nervous, and this is 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:08.080 such an honor to talk to you. 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.959 Thank you so so much, and I understand being nervous. 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:11.399 Go ahead. 0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.280 Oh this is so great, you know. I'm so thankful 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:18.679 you do this hour. But I'm very curious to know 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:21.600 in light of what you have said. You know, I'm 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.959 a Christian woman, but I have worked very hard on 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.240 my figure. Used to be a fitness instructor. It's very 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.520 important to me to look good. So I'm curious in 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:34.879 light of what you said, what is in your mind 0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.359 appropriate dress for a Christian woman who wants. 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:39.640 To look good? 0:22:40.119 --> 0:22:43.320 You know, having you know your question is of course, 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.639 you were asking exactly what the Jewish woman in the 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:50.840 letter is asking your religious Christian religious Jewish woman, same 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.560 same question and appropriate. I just want to tell you 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.520 a funny thing is when I see pictures of some 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:02.240 some starlets or some athletes, very very low cut, half 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:07.000 their breast showing and a cross in the middle, and 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.000 I'm thinking, what exactly did they have in mind? How 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:12.560 do I attract men to Christ? I mean, what. 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:14.760 Is is? 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.000 What is on their mind? Anyway? It's just it's it's all. 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.760 It's actually it's it's humorous. In its way, and I'm 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.159 not it's not even a condemnation, it's just I I 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:26.160 marvel at it. But anyway you're asking, First of all, 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:30.720 I think you have every right to let the world 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.480 know that you take care of yourself and have a 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:39.520 fine figure. So I do not believe that that figure 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:46.919 eradicating clothing is necessary or even good. I think the 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.399 fact that you are a woman and have a different 0:23:49.440 --> 0:23:52.120 body than than men do, and that you have a 0:23:52.119 --> 0:23:55.080 fine one because you've taken care of it, you have 0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:59.800 every right and I think even even obligation to yourself 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:05.840 to to make that clear by not wearing particularly baggy 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:10.080 clothing for example. Okay, so the figure is the figure. 0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:14.400 We're talking about skin here, much more than we're talking 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:18.520 about revealing that this is a this is a woman 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.880 with a fine body. That's just fine. And by the way, 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:24.679 well one will of course, one could argue, well, Dennis, 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.200 that's a turn on too men too. Okay, that's that's 0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:31.080 meant at that point that becomes my male problem. Okay, 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:32.080 I'll handle that. 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.320 That is good to know because that was a question 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:35.960 that I had. 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:37.000 Yes. Good. 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.160 I know other Christian women who say, like I won't 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.119 even wear anything that's form fitting because it's showing your face. 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:44.600 No no, no, no no no. Well so then then 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:46.800 you know then what's the difference. But then why not 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:50.680 by that logic you should wear a chador or a burka. 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:51.800 Right, that is true? 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.240 And by the way, what about your face? Why reveal 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:58.919 your face? Face? Face? Face is also arousing? Right? I 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.000 mean bye? By that thing, king, then you know one 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:04.560 ends up really wearing a burka. No, not at all. 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:09.320 So there is you you are continue to do so 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:13.119 the question comes with regard. By the way, there are 0:25:12.960 --> 0:25:18.280 also other questions. A cocktail party versus going to church 0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:22.000