1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Life audio of today's episode of Timeless Wisdom. 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: You mentioned that you would like to do an hour 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 2: on modesty. I am really looking forward to that one. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: You know, I'm so thankful you do this hour. But 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: I'm very curious to know in light of what you 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 3: have said. You know, I'm a Christian woman, but I 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: have worked very hard on my figure. Used to be 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: a fitness instructor. It's very important to me to look good. 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 3: So I'm curious in light of what you said, what 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 3: is in your mind appropriate dress for a Christian woman 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 3: who wants to look good. 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: That's coming up on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Welcome 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of hours 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: of Dennis's lectures, courses in classic radio programs, and to 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: Old Fashion. I like two sexes. 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 4: I don't know. 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: I think all of a sudden, I don't. 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 5: Like being married to what is known as a new woman. 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: I want a wife, not a competitor, competator. Competitor. 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: Talk about a bit this crying in the morning things, depression, 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, let's get that fixed. 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 5: That's what men think, isn't it what Unless you've got 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 5: the answer, unless you can say, oh, I know this 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 5: bloke in the essex Radical fix that, and there's no 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 5: point bothering. 27 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 6: How do you write women so well? 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: I think of a man and I take away reason 29 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: and accountability. I love him, I love him and I 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: don't care what you think. 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 4: I love him for the for the man he wants 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 4: to be, and I love him for the man that 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 4: he almost is. 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: What do people have rows about him? Money? It's sex sex, 35 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: money he wants, she doesn't want, she wants, he doesn't want. Women. 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: I've always been a big problem to me. Doctor fusspend 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: by listening. 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: Doctor, Yes, yes, yes, go, I'm gone. 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: I love it every week, Hi everybody, Dennis Prager the 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: Male Female Hour. Sometimes the Male Female Hour is so honest, 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 2: and that's what it's about that I tell you it's 42 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: not a good idea for kids under ten to hear 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: it today. I think I think we're pretty free. Is 44 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: that is that fair to say? I think so. I 45 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: mean you'll make up your mind, but I think so. Hi, everybody. 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: I talk about the real real issues of men and 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: women on the Male Female Hour, and I want to 48 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: read to you a letter I received after last week's show, 49 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: and it came from a an Orthodox in fact Asidic woman, 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: in fact one I know who is the wife of 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: a prominent Habad rabbi. That's that's an ultra orthodox Asidics 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: group in Judaism, and she brought Usapachinsky is her name, 53 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 2: and she's very, very bright and writes me periodically. This 54 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: is what she wrote last week, Thank you Duch for 55 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: the great Men Women Hour yesterday, and it was about 56 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: the visual, the effect of the visual on men and 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: how different it is from the effect of the visual 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: on women. In fact, she notes, I loved your line 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 2: about women being more interested in looking at photos of 60 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: table legs than men's legs, which is something I said 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: on the show, which is true. Whereas if you asked men, 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: would you rather look at women's legs or table legs, 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: they would think that you were nuts. It's like asking 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: would you rather breathe or suffocate? It's in that realm 65 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: of the obvious. So thank you for the show. I 66 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: talked to as you mentioned her husband, because it is 67 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: something we discussed many times before. You said on the program, 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: this is something your husband would not tell you, but 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: he does not fall into that category at all, and 70 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: which is a credit to both of you. By the way, 71 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: now here is today's theme, She writes, Have you ever 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: asked men if they like to have women around them 73 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: dressed scantily or if they would prefer to have them 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: more modestly dressed? Of course, every man would instinctively say 75 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 2: the first, but I wonder if, after a little bit 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: of thought, they might just prefer the second choice. You 77 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 2: mentioned that you would like to do an hour on modesty. 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: I am really looking forward to that one. Well, broh, 79 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: here is your request is granted. I feel sort of 80 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: like a Laddin's lamp. Herebbed she rubbed on the lab 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: and vola, which, by the way, shows I read your mail, folks. 82 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: I can't respond. I didn't even get the chance to 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: respond to her, but I do. And if you have 84 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: thoughts and reactions, they are absolutely invaluable to me. I 85 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: was asked this question a long time ago, and I'm 86 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: very open on these issues, and that's why people ask me, Well, Dennis, 87 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: I sweat something like, so, as a man, do you 88 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: like when women wear very revealing clothing or scantily dressed? 89 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 2: As Brohasapachinski put it, and I said, and this is 90 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: this was a key answer. The male in me loves it. 91 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: The man in me doesn't see. Every man who thinks 92 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: forget the values issue. Even every man who thinks, just thinks, 93 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: knows that the man and the male are in conflict. 94 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: That's why I call this the male female hour. Incidentally, 95 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: it's deeper than the man woman hour. It's the male 96 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: female hour. See, women have to fight the female, but 97 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: different parts. The problem, and I've said this and we'll 98 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: do another show on this, is that girls are not 99 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: raised to fight the female in themselves. Because our society, 100 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: because of the age of stupidity in which we live, 101 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: has announced that everything female is naturally beautiful. It's the 102 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: males that have to have their aggression, their sexual predatory nature, 103 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: which is true. We do, we men do have to 104 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: fight those things. Do women have nothing to fight in 105 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 2: their minute nature? Okay, that's a separate subject obviously, But 106 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 2: so the answer is for a man who thinks this through. 107 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: Of course, it's exciting when women show their bodies. That's 108 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: the point of it. It literally is exciting. Yes, that's 109 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 2: how you excite men, at least those who aren't blind, 110 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: and I'm not being facetious blind. Men are stimulated in 111 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 2: other ways, and I'm not saying it's the only way, 112 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: but is it is the first way? The visual we 113 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: talked about that previous show, and you're free to download it, 114 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 2: and you should, in fact and play it for one another. 115 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: Easier often for a wife to hear a stranger than 116 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: her husband, or and vice versa, for a woman to 117 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: hear a stranger, perhaps than his wife saying certain things. 118 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: So es, yes, we men are excited by the visual, 119 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: no question. So do we like the micro skirt, Well, 120 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: we're excited by the micro skirt. Do we like it, Well, 121 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: that's a different story. That's why men love women in bikinis. 122 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: Men love women in short skirts. Well, it's not precise. 123 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: Men are excited by women showing more of their more 124 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: of their body. Do we like it? Well, it depends 125 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: what like means, and I'm not being Clintonian. It depends 126 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: what the definition of is is. It depends what like means. Yes, 127 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: if you like being excited, especially by someone that you 128 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: will be able to consummate that excitement with, preferably hopefully 129 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: ideally your wife, that's spectacular. But as a general rule, Well, 130 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: it depends how much a man wishes to be governed 131 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: by his libido, because every time, not even in just life, 132 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 2: in picture, this happens, he's distracted. When I was much younger, 133 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: I remember, I remember a friend who was a real character, 134 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 2: who pointed out an attractive woman walking in the street 135 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: in a short skirt. And the truth is, I bumped 136 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: into the car in front of me at a red light, 137 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: which brought him so much joy that I couldn't I 138 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: couldn't even be angry. I was disgusted at myself. I mean, 139 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: it was two miles per hour. I was already, you know, 140 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: basically stopped at the red light. But that gives you 141 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: an idea of the power of the visual and it 142 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: is distracting. It is entirely distracting. Absolutely. That is one 143 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: of the reasons that men love to have all men's 144 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: groups much more than women like to have all women's groups. 145 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: We like to have we like to have men's clubs 146 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: and golf clubs. And when rotary clubs were all men 147 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: not to discuss business. I was a member of the 148 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: rotary club for three years. The guys weren't talking business, 149 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: they were just talking guy stuff. There was a piece 150 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: that reigned because there was no sexual tension. Now there 151 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 2: were times it's fantastic to be with women. My point 152 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: is that hardly that all. I'm a moderate on this, 153 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: you know, so don't think that because I say X, 154 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: therefore y is never good. But this notion is that 155 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: men like it. No, men are stimulated by it. And 156 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: young girls who were listening, high school college girls, please 157 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: know that what you often call attractive is to a 158 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: man just a sexual. Come on. He doesn't know the 159 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: word attractive. He knows the word turn on. If you 160 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: want to turn men on, and that's a high for you, fine, 161 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: know what you're doing. My point here is not moral judgment. 162 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: I make them all the time, moral judgments. But the 163 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: point here is clarity. You'll make the moral judgments. Now, 164 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: let me tell you a story that especially young women 165 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: should know. I was the director of an educational institute 166 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: in California for seven years, and in the summer, during 167 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: the year, couples came, but during the summer college and 168 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: graduate age students, in other words, kids nineteen to twenty 169 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: five came. I was only in my late twenties and 170 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: early thirty, so I was very close in age to them. 171 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: But I was the director of this institute, so boys 172 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 2: and girls, young men and young women ages nineteen to 173 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: twenty five would come. It was the summer. And I 174 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: will tell you when we come back, the story of 175 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: a particularly attractive, particularly well endowed young woman and what 176 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: she said to me one day, because I met with 177 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: every one of the students privately, and she and they 178 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 2: opened up to me because for reasons i'll explain later, 179 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: but she did. I'll tell you what she said about 180 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: the way the guys looked at her and my response 181 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: and her parents' response. One eighth Praguer seven seven six 182 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: The Male Female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. 183 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 184 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 185 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 2: Prager, it is hi, everybody. You're listening to the Dennis 186 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: Prager Show, the Male Female Hour, and I've really explained today, 187 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 2: perhaps better than ever before, why I call it the 188 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: male Female Hour or not the man woman Hour. You 189 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: might recall that before I began this hour, it's one 190 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: of three dedicated hours that I have on the Dennis 191 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: Prager Show. One is to Happiness, one is to ultimate issues, 192 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: and one is to male female and this is the 193 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: most recent of the three. And the debate was man 194 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: women or male female. But the male female is goes 195 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: more primal. And as I said, the man fights the 196 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: male and the woman has to fight the female nature 197 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: in them both. And so I'm talking to you today, 198 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: especially in conjunction with the show that I did, on 199 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: the power of the visual to stimulate men, far far, far, 200 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: infinitely more powerful than the visual stimulates women. It's just 201 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: a fact. I mean, that's why that line I used 202 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: about would a woman rather look at a magazine of 203 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: men's legs or you know, furniture legs, there's no comparison, 204 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: whereas a man, you know, men by journals of women's legs, 205 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: So there's no comparison. That's the way we're made. Now 206 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 2: in light of that, the issue arises of well, so 207 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: then what's the answer. Do men really like scantily clad women? 208 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: They say they do, but do they really? It's written 209 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: to me by a what they call an ultra orthodox, 210 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: a woman, the wife of a rabbi, and they run 211 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: a wonderful center. And in fact, in this case, I 212 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: know who it is. And she she raised the question 213 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: and it's a very important question. And my answer, because 214 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 2: I've been asked this before, is the male in us, 215 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: I'll speak for me. The male in me loves scantily 216 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 2: clad women. The man in me doesn't except under circumstances 217 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 2: where it's it's desirable and important. Like with your wife. 218 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: That's that's the ideal, and she should and she should 219 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 2: play that role. By the way, with her husband. That's 220 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: a very important thing that you can do for your husband, 221 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 2: which we've talked about and we'll talk about again. Now 222 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: let me tell you the story, and then I want 223 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: to take your calls. One eight prager seven seven six 224 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: one eight p r A g Er seven seven six, 225 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: which is eight seven seven two four three triple seven 226 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: six eight seven seven two four to three triple seven six. 227 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: So I was the director of an institute which had 228 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: summer sessions. We had ninety in July ninety in August 229 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: of college aged and older. Eight nineteen to twenty five 230 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: year old kids would come as was in southern California, 231 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: and they'd spend entire month living there, and of course 232 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: they dressed as they would dress. You know, there was 233 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: no code as it were, of dress at the at 234 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: the institute. I met with every one of the ninety privately. 235 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: That was one of my tasks. How are you doing, 236 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: you know, open up to me about how you're reacting 237 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: to the program, how do you feel about the other kids, etc. Etc. So, anyway, 238 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: there was one young woman I remember, viv I think 239 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: she was on the younger side. I think she was nineteen. 240 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: She was very beautiful, and she was she had a 241 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 2: terrific figure and well endowed, and she let everybody know it. 242 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: That's how she dressed. She let everybody know it by 243 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: the way she dressed. And so she came into my 244 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: office and by the way, to my everlasting credit, if 245 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: I go to heaven, it will be because even though 246 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: I was a bachelor and I was only a few 247 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: years older, I was very, very non flirtatious, totally removed 248 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: and totally professional. I must say, I'm very proud of 249 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: myself or the way I acted then. But it would 250 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: have the institute would have killed any values that I 251 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: preached if in any way I were perceived as not 252 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: even forget doing anything, just coming on to any of 253 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: the young women. So therefore, they felt that they could 254 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: open up to me, which was one of the important things, 255 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 2: and they could. So I was talking to her in 256 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: my office and I said, oh, you know, I asked 257 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: her the same questions I generally asked the other kids. 258 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: And I said, how are you getting along with the kids? 259 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: He said, all right? But I think, you know, for 260 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: whatever reason, you know, the guys here, you know, they 261 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 2: treat me like I'm some sex object. And I don't 262 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: feel that I could ever really just have a conversation 263 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: with them. So I said to her, do you think 264 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: that you might be doing anything that causes them to 265 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: regard you in that way? And she said what do 266 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: you mean? And of course I'm thinking. I was thinking, 267 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 2: what do you mean? What do I mean? We live 268 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: on the same planet. But I didn't say that. I said, well, 269 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: to be perfectly honest, it's the way you dress, You 270 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: reveal your body, you reveal your breasts wherever, pretty much, 271 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: whatever you wear, and so you are saying to all 272 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: these guys around here, look at me as a sex object. 273 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: That's what you're telling them to do. And I took 274 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: a gamble, because she could have said, you know, who 275 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: the hell are you to talk to me that way? 276 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Or I'm going to call my parents. And I thought 277 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: about that in advance, and I thought, well, if she 278 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 2: wants to call her parents, there's a telephone, it is 279 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: go right ahead, there's a photo in the next room. 280 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 2: And in fact, as it turns out, she did call 281 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 2: her parents, and guess what, her parents called me and 282 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: thanked me. They were so great because the parent saying 283 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 2: this is so often less effective than somebody else saying this. 284 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: And I will never forget when I finally met the parents, 285 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 2: they just were so grateful to me. They said, we 286 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: don't know how to get this point across to her. 287 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: And she was a very sweet girl. This was you know, 288 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: she was. This was not, you know, some slutty type girl, 289 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: not in the least. She was naive, as almost all 290 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: women are at the beginning, because how could they possibly know. 291 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: They know the word attractive, they don't know the word exciting. 292 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: Turn on. Therefore, just looking, I'm just showing, and it's 293 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: an attractive dress, attractive haltertop right, it's an attractive short skirt. 294 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: I'm not telling you what to wear. I'm telling you 295 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: to be aware of what the effects are, and that 296 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 2: the notion of men liking this is a very complex question. 297 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: The male in us likes it, the man in us 298 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: if we want to be able to not be distracted continually, 299 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 2: is not a big fan of it. That's the answer 300 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 2: to the question as written by this religious woman who 301 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: wrote to me one eight Prager seven seven six. And 302 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: now I go to your calls, and I would like 303 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 2: you look, if I'm willing to be open, and you 304 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: know who I am, you should certainly be willing to 305 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: open because people don't know who you are, so this 306 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: should be very helpful. And you might want to play 307 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: this for your young daughters, your high school or college 308 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: daughters or nieces. You are listening to the Deni Prager Show, 309 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: The Male Female Hour. 310 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 311 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 312 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: Prager it is, and this is the Male Female Hour. 313 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: Every week. This hour is devoted and very openly, as 314 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 2: you have obviously noticed by now, to men women male 315 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: female issues. Women's dress is the current issue based on 316 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 2: the show of course that we did, on the power 317 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: of the visual to arouse men and how do men 318 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 2: like women's dress? The question posed to me by a 319 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: religious woman. And let's go to your calls now. Because 320 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: of the importance. And by the way, I have to say, 321 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: having said the importance of non provocative dress, I don't 322 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: cook to the I don't go to the other extreme. However, 323 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 2: the other extreme, of course is the chador, is the 324 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: burka is where a woman is entirely covered. I find 325 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,959 Speaker 2: that immoral, dehumanizing and degrading. Can I be more strong 326 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 2: if I could, I would say it, I just don't 327 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: know how to be stronger in my condemnation of that. 328 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: In fact, frankly, between the two, I would take the 329 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: immodest extreme over over that as as as much as 330 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 2: I think that that's a problem, And so what does 331 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: that mean? Then what does it mean? I mean? And 332 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: here people have to be I think there has to 333 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: be a common sense understanding, because I mean, the fact is, 334 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: why do they used to say a well turned ankle 335 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: when women only showed ankles? It was it was something. 336 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: Women's skin is women's skin to men, that's the way 337 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: it is. That's the way men are made. And I 338 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: am one of them. It's not abstract. I propos of this. 339 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: Let's go to Denver, Colorado, and a vita. Hello Avita, 340 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager. 341 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: Hello Dennis Frager. I am I'm nervous, and this is 342 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: such an honor to talk to you. 343 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,959 Speaker 2: Thank you so so much, and I understand being nervous. 344 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: Go ahead. 345 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: Oh this is so great, you know. I'm so thankful 346 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: you do this hour. But I'm very curious to know 347 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 3: in light of what you have said. You know, I'm 348 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 3: a Christian woman, but I have worked very hard on 349 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: my figure. Used to be a fitness instructor. It's very 350 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: important to me to look good. So I'm curious in 351 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: light of what you said, what is in your mind 352 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: appropriate dress for a Christian woman who wants. 353 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 7: To look good? 354 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: You know, having you know your question is of course, 355 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: you were asking exactly what the Jewish woman in the 356 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: letter is asking your religious Christian religious Jewish woman, same 357 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: same question and appropriate. I just want to tell you 358 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: a funny thing is when I see pictures of some 359 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: some starlets or some athletes, very very low cut, half 360 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: their breast showing and a cross in the middle, and 361 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, what exactly did they have in mind? How 362 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: do I attract men to Christ? I mean, what. 363 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 8: Is is? 364 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: What is on their mind? Anyway? It's just it's it's all. 365 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: It's actually it's it's humorous. In its way, and I'm 366 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: not it's not even a condemnation, it's just I I 367 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: marvel at it. But anyway you're asking, First of all, 368 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 2: I think you have every right to let the world 369 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: know that you take care of yourself and have a 370 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: fine figure. So I do not believe that that figure 371 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 2: eradicating clothing is necessary or even good. I think the 372 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 2: fact that you are a woman and have a different 373 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 2: body than than men do, and that you have a 374 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: fine one because you've taken care of it, you have 375 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: every right and I think even even obligation to yourself 376 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: to to make that clear by not wearing particularly baggy 377 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 2: clothing for example. Okay, so the figure is the figure. 378 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: We're talking about skin here, much more than we're talking 379 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: about revealing that this is a this is a woman 380 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 2: with a fine body. That's just fine. And by the way, 381 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 2: well one will of course, one could argue, well, Dennis, 382 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: that's a turn on too men too. Okay, that's that's 383 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: meant at that point that becomes my male problem. Okay, 384 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: I'll handle that. 385 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: That is good to know because that was a question 386 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 3: that I had. 387 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: Yes. Good. 388 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: I know other Christian women who say, like I won't 389 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: even wear anything that's form fitting because it's showing your face. 390 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: No no, no, no no no. Well so then then 391 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: you know then what's the difference. But then why not 392 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: by that logic you should wear a chador or a burka. 393 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 7: Right, that is true? 394 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: And by the way, what about your face? Why reveal 395 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 2: your face? Face? Face? Face is also arousing? Right? I 396 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: mean bye? By that thing, king, then you know one 397 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: ends up really wearing a burka. No, not at all. 398 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: So there is you you are continue to do so 399 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 2: the question comes with regard. By the way, there are 400 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: also other questions. A cocktail party versus going to church 401 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: venue is part of the answer to your question. I 402 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 2: will explain when we come back on the Dennis Prager Show. 403 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 9: Hi Dennis, my name is Nick in Westwood, New Jersey, 404 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 9: and I just want to wish you well. I know 405 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 9: you've had an ordeal to deal with the last year 406 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 9: year plus. Now what happened to you if you fall? I, 407 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 9: like many people have had their life chames by you, 408 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 9: so Collins and videos and your book. I've read everything 409 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 9: you've ever written, and Jesus, thanks my life. You convinced 410 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 9: me to get a PhD in American religion. I went 411 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 9: from atheist to back to Catholics. I went from a 412 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 9: little conservative. I have successfully converted god knows how many 413 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 9: people and my family over to our cause. And I 414 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 9: just really appreciate everything you've drunk from me. And there 415 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 9: are there are millions, if not tens of millions of 416 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 9: people like me. Most of them will not call, but 417 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 9: just know how much good you've done in this world. 418 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 4: So I wish you well and I look. 419 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 9: Forward to continuing to indulge in your getting your timeless system. 420 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 9: Thank you so much from the bottle of my heart. 421 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: Are you enjoying timeless wisdom? We'd love to hear from you. 422 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: Call eight seven seven two four three seventy seven seventy 423 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: six and leave a review, share your thoughts, or just 424 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: even an encouraging word for Dennis. Your voicemail might just 425 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: make it on the show. That's eight seven seven two 426 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: four three seventy seven seventy six. That's eight seven seven 427 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: two four three trip seven six. Thanks for listening and 428 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: for your support. 429 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 2: Prager. It is Hi, everybody, Dennis Prager The Male Female 430 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: Hour talking about women's dress and its effect on men, 431 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: and I take a middle road here. On the one hand, 432 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: it is so clear that the the effect of showing 433 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: more skin is so arousing and distracting to men, period, 434 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: end of issue. And it is, it's almost immeasurable, and 435 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: it's in its power. We talked about the visual and 436 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: previous week on the on the show. On the other hand, 437 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: the movement toward the entire coverage like in the like 438 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: among some Muslim women is degrading and humiliating in terrible ways. Uh. 439 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: And and is actually, in my opinion, some total is 440 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: actually worse. And I say that having been quite clear 441 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 2: about the adverse effects of provocative dress. There was a 442 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: woman who called. Unfortunly, she hung up, but I got 443 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 2: a chance to at least read her subject. Her husband 444 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: likes her to go brals in public and uh, and 445 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 2: she's uncomfortable with that. And I and it's too bad 446 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: that she. I think she's in Cleveland. Uh. And the 447 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell you very quickly the fact that he wants 448 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 2: you to do that. And I don't want to cause 449 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: any troubles at all, God forbid. The point of this 450 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: hour is to make marriages better, not worse. But Uh, 451 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 2: there is a part of men that wants to say 452 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: to the world, to other men in particular, Look at 453 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: how sexy my wife is, and that's that's natural, that's 454 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: part of that's part. That's why they they often speak 455 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: of what is the word when when has a much 456 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: younger wife trophy trophy? Yeh, but but that is something 457 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: that it is one thing for man to be proud 458 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 2: of how his wife looks. It is quite another to 459 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: to have her wear clothing to to provoke, to announce, Look, 460 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm a sex object. That's that's that's not a good thing. 461 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: Men should not do that. And it's just it's it's 462 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: bad for both of you. It's bad for everybody. And uh, 463 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe there's a certain insecurity at the 464 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 2: root of it that you know, this is how men 465 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: will listen. Let me tell you something. If, as a man, men, 466 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 2: if the way you will get respect from other men 467 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: is by showing off your wife's body, then you don't 468 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: have much that you can gain respect from other men. 469 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: For if that's what you're relying on, you don't have 470 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: much going on in your life. Okay? Is that direct enough? 471 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: One? 472 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: Eight Praguer seven seven six And in fact, on that 473 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 2: very issue in Hyan dot Whyan dot Michigan, it's Mark Hello, Mark, 474 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager. Did I pronounce your city? Right? 475 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 4: Yes? You did? 476 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: You got it? 477 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 2: Good? 478 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 4: Hey, Dennis, you know what my opinion on the subject 479 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 4: is pretty much the opposite of that call you just 480 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 4: described before. 481 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: That, right. 482 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: I like my woman to look modest and attractive in public, 483 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 4: and when there's times of intimacy, that's when the male 484 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: gets to come out, and that's when I like my 485 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 4: woman to be more provocative and sexy looking. 486 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: You got it, my friend? 487 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 4: Yes? And you know, although I when I see you 488 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 4: want to dress scantily on the street, I'll look, but 489 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: I'm thinking I wouldn't want my woman looking that way 490 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: because other men. 491 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 2: Are or your daughter, or your mother, or your sister, 492 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: or your or a female friend. There isn't a single 493 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: woman that you love that you would want dressed that way. Okay, 494 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: So that's something to bear in mind. That's exactly right. 495 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: I do believe that there are extremely I think, for example, 496 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: I mean, there are those who say that a woman 497 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: should cover her arms to her wrists. I think that 498 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,479 Speaker 2: or her or must hit her ankle her skirt, And 499 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: you know, I respect those who feel that way. I 500 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 2: think that that's more than I think is necessary. But people. 501 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: But there's no objective answer to this. Obviously there will 502 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: always be a subjective element. But nevertheless that at least 503 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: they have at least, I mean, to their credit, they 504 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: have the right idea of the importance of modesty and dress. 505 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: And I always thought in that way when I look 506 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: at films of the fifties, and I don't mean movies, 507 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean just documentaries of the way women dress. They 508 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: looked beautiful, just as beautiful as women do today, in fact, 509 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: some ways perhaps more. But they showed much less. But 510 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 2: are are they less sexy? Are they less adorable? Are 511 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: they less desirable? Of course not, of course not. Just 512 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 2: sexual tension wasn't wasn't around quite as much. That's the 513 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: point there, Give me, give me line five. I just 514 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 2: disconnected the plug for a second. Give me line five, 515 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: and let's see Katie and Bradenton, Florida. 516 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 6: Hi, Danny, Hi. My husband is actually the one that 517 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 6: urged me to call. 518 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: Oh how interesting? Go ahead? 519 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we listened to your show all the time. 520 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 6: Good And I'm a big plug person for the no 521 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 6: expectations SERI that you have. 522 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: Oh good, because. 523 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 6: I think it works. 524 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: Wonder it does. 525 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 6: I called them because when I was younger, say, around 526 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 6: eighteen or so apparently, and I know now, but I 527 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 6: used to wear very short skirts, provocative skirts. Gods have 528 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 6: blessed me with long legs. And I remember even around 529 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 6: my parents when I would go out and I would 530 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 6: be wearing these, they would say how nice I looked. 531 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 6: And I had no idea, that's right, what I was 532 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 6: doing at. 533 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 2: All, Just like that nineteen year old at my institute. 534 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly exactly. And it wasn't until that one of 535 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 6: my friends made some offhanded comment, not a mean comment 536 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 6: in any way, but remarked about how I always wear 537 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 6: these short skirts that and I asked them, you know, 538 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 6: what are you talking about? And they acted like, oh, 539 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 6: you know that you do and this and that, and 540 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 6: it really it blindsided me at how that I was 541 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: dressing and what kind. 542 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 2: Of Well that it proves my theory as to why 543 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: I'm writing my book on men and why I do 544 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: this show so many women are never told by men 545 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: what's going on? Right exactly, Well, you're twenty five, and 546 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: thank god you now know, and that's great. I appreciate 547 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: your call immensely. Man who takes a yoga class with 548 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 2: scantily clad women Calling Up from Texas. Next on The 549 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: Male Female Hour. 550 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 551 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 552 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager here, final segment of this edition of The 553 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 2: Male Female Hour. I suspect a lot of you would 554 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: like a copy of this. I don't mean a transcription, 555 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: though we should transcribe all the stuff. Actually, I have 556 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: finally decided, and if you want to laugh at me, 557 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 2: you are perfectly right in doing so, since I've been 558 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,479 Speaker 2: so paralyzed between so many books or among so many 559 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: But my next book will in fact be the Truth 560 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 2: about Men. I don't know if that'll be the title, 561 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: but that's what it is about. It is about all 562 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: these issues. And in the meantime, if you want to 563 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: get this particular show and play it for your daughter, 564 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 2: niece or whomever, go to Dennis Prager dot com and 565 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 2: I'd love your male I want to tell Marian and Tampa. 566 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 2: She said, what can I do to get my husband 567 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: to be attracted to me? Again? It seems like no 568 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: matter what I do, he's just not that interested. It 569 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: is such an important subject. That's one I would like 570 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 2: to talk about at length. We don't have the time now, Marian, 571 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: please either send me an email or call in in. 572 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 2: Maybe even next time, we will just have an open 573 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: line male female hour so that people can pose any 574 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 2: honest question, the tough stuff that may have not been 575 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: dealt with or has been dealt with and you want 576 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 2: to ask about all right, e and Oh Kim asked 577 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 2: the same thing in San Diego. Do husbands like to 578 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 2: look at their wives bodies even once they age? I 579 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 2: don't feel as attractive as I used to. Okay, look, 580 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 2: it's a very honest question here in a nutshell, men 581 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 2: are still attracted to their wives if their wives, generally speaking, 582 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: these are all generalizations if their wives take care of 583 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: themselves and they do a lot of things to keep 584 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: that tension alive. For example, don't appear undressed before him 585 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 2: when you are not about to do something. Let it 586 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 2: be very rare that he still sees you undressed. Where 587 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: the type of sexy stuff for him that accentuates the 588 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 2: still provocative parts of you. They're obviously you don't look 589 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: like a twenty year old, but that's not what he's expecting. 590 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 2: And that's why people do continue to enjoy one another 591 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 2: all ages. All right, let's quickly, David san Antonio, quickly, Hi. 592 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 5: Dennis, great talking to you again. I retired from the military, 593 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 5: went back to college, and my last semester I heard 594 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 5: about a yoga class who had been the teacher was 595 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 5: one of my high school teachers from my high school days. 596 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 5: So I took the class. Showed up. About twenty people 597 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 5: in the class, three males, me and two others. 598 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 2: With all right, wait, all right, I think I know 599 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 2: the lie forgive me, and they're scantily clad, and part 600 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 2: of him likes it, and part is very he's very distracted, 601 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: no kidding. That was my theme, the man versus the male, 602 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: the woman versus the female. This is the Dennis Prager. 603 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: Show tomorrow on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. 604 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 8: The west side of la has a lot more influence 605 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 8: over the country than the west side of Toledo. I mean, 606 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 8: that's and by the way, I don't I'm not saying 607 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 8: that's bad. I'm just saying, if you have more influence 608 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 8: over how other people live, you to consider yourself a 609 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 8: steward of the country and you want to make wise decisions. 610 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 8: Is that Gladiator the music behind you? Yes, you can 611 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 8: literally quote. 612 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 5: The whole movie. 613 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 8: Maximus, Well you not accept this great. 614 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 5: Honor, sire, with all my heart. No, that is why 615 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 5: it must be you, Maximus. 616 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 8: There you go. That's my that's my best limitation. I 617 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 8: love that movie. 618 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 5: Every human being is sinned. And by the way, I 619 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,479 Speaker 5: probably have a much longer list than you in life. 620 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 2: I doubt it, but I know I we'll get together 621 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: and compare. 622 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 5: Are we going to get together over a cigar for 623 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 5: a big part of my life, which I guess made 624 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 5: me a talk job. 625 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody stereotypes more based on race, ethnicity, religion than 626 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 7: people on the left. And so when they saw them, 627 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 7: my last name was Shapiro and then I went to 628 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 7: Harvard lost one of them. And really, you know, usually 629 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 7: that's like a ninety eight percent and betvenue bother googling. 630 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 2: I just need to tell you that is one of 631 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 2: the funniest responses in twenty eight years of a radio 632 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: out of interviewing people. 633 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: Join us tomorrow to hear more on Timeless Wisdom with 634 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: Dennis Prager. Visit Dennispragger dot com for thousands of hours 635 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: of Dennis's lectures, courses in classic radio programs, and to 636 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles. 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