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Speaker 2: You are listening to The Becky Cook Show with your host,

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Speaker 2: Beckett Cook. For more information about Beckett and his ministry,

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, welcome to the show. Today.

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Speaker 4: I have a very special guest, a dear friend, Victoria Jackson.

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Speaker 4: You know where her from SNL. She has a new

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Speaker 4: book out called Not Dead Yet. The subtitle is a

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Speaker 4: lifetime of handstands, art and poetry. It's a very kind

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Speaker 4: of like a coffee table book. There's tons of images

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Speaker 4: in it and we're going to look at some of

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Speaker 4: those images today.

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Speaker 3: On the show. They're very very funny and the book.

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Speaker 4: I've interviewed her on the show before, but after reading

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Speaker 4: this I found out some very fascinating details.

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Speaker 3: About her life that I didn't know about. We're going

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Speaker 3: to get into that, but.

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Speaker 4: Before that, if you haven't subscribe to the show, please subscribe.

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Speaker 4: It really helps us out. There's a link below, and

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Speaker 4: to all those who are patrons, I just want to

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Speaker 4: just say thank you so much. It's been a wonderful

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Speaker 4: and it's so helpful. So thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 4: But first award from our sponsor. Now please welcome Victoria Jackson.

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Speaker 1: I'm such a fan. You like the Beatles. To me,

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Speaker 1: you still like the Beatles because you're so brave and

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Speaker 1: you're so handsome, and you go against culture and you

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Speaker 1: stand up for truth, which is way more beautiful than

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Speaker 1: any song ever written.

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Speaker 3: Ah. I love that. I'm better than the Beatles. That's

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Speaker 3: a vay. I've never heard that before.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell Paul McCartney I said that.

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Speaker 4: I know we're going to get to Paul McCartney in

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Speaker 4: a minute because we have a good image of you

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Speaker 4: with him.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: Who's the Who's the person in the background in your

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Speaker 4: on your counter.

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Speaker 3: That's Charlie kirk Oh.

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Speaker 1: And I love him so much. I'm so proud of him.

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Speaker 1: He was a martyr for Jesus Christ. You know, right

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Speaker 1: before he got shot, he told the gospel. They don't

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Speaker 1: play that in the clips. He told the gospel. Then

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Speaker 1: a guy asked a question. Then he got shot.

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Speaker 4: He died for Jesus, I know, I know, well he's

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Speaker 4: he's in heaven now, which is amazing. But it's sad

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Speaker 4: for his wife and kids, very sad, and it's sad

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Speaker 4: for us. But okay, so by the way, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I read this book cover to cover and it is

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Speaker 4: so yes, look at all my notes, like it.

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Speaker 3: Is so much fun. Why did you do this book? Now?

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Speaker 4: Is this like kind of to pass down to like

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Speaker 4: you know, what is this for? Why did you come

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Speaker 4: up with this idea? Where did it come from?

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for reading it. That means

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Speaker 1: a lot to me. Second of all, you don't have

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Speaker 1: much time and you didn't have to. Second of all,

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Speaker 1: was it fun or was it sad? Or was it

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Speaker 1: happy or fun?

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Speaker 3: Or what it was all of the above?

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Speaker 4: It was fun, there's and we're going to get to

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Speaker 4: some of these things. There were some things in the

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Speaker 4: book that were like I had no idea, like we'll

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Speaker 4: get to the Playboy mansion, but there were things in

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Speaker 4: the book I didn't know about, and we're going to

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Speaker 4: get to some of those things. So there were a

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Speaker 4: lot of like the Gap commercial. We won't get into it,

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Speaker 4: but I want you to tell that story later because

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Speaker 4: it's the funniest thing, because I've auditioned for gap commercials.

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Speaker 3: But we'll get to that later.

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Speaker 1: Of Okay, you asked me why I wrote it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is that what you were going to say?

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Speaker 3: First? Yeah? Why did you write it?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Since I was a child, I have written poetry,

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Speaker 1: and nobody buys poetry, nobody reads poetry. A few people

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Speaker 1: write poetry and they like to read their own poetry.

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Speaker 1: But I loved it. My husband, if you ask him

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Speaker 1: if I'm talented at anything, he'll say poetry. He's done me.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the reason you're good at poetry and

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Speaker 4: and uh it helped you with writing poems and rhyme.

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Speaker 1: Well, what I was saying was, if I try to

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Speaker 1: figure out what I love poetry, My whole childhood was

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Speaker 1: years of spending vanity and pride, caring. Not my Lord

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Speaker 1: was crucified, No, neither was for me. He died a calvary.

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Speaker 1: Every hymn has that meter of poet I am bic

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Speaker 1: And then we went to musicals. You know, the one

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Speaker 1: and only genuine family band. Let's put it over with

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Speaker 1: Grover Don't wrote the boat, give him your vote, give you.

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Speaker 1: You know, my whole childhood was rhyming songs. I thought

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Speaker 1: I was living in a movie, my whole life and

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Speaker 1: a musical. And I wrote the musical score to my life,

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Speaker 1: just not not for anyone to see, just for me.

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Speaker 1: But then I started showing people my poems and songs.

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Speaker 1: And then it's even more fun if some one goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: I like that. But anyway, as I got diagnosed with

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Speaker 1: uh the Google said people who take it live two

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Speaker 1: years longer than they would have lived, whatever that means.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, and then, like the newspapers all had said

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Speaker 1: Victoria Jackson dying from there was a tumor right near

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Speaker 1: my windpipe and I couldn't breathe a year ago, and

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Speaker 1: But it's starting to feel like it's growing back. So

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Speaker 1: gonna zap it again. But anyway, when you get diagnosed

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Speaker 1: with cancer, you start to think of wrapping your life up.

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Speaker 1: It's like get a will, you know, get a grave.

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Speaker 1: Finish your book. And so my book was my in

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Speaker 1: my brain since I was a child. I was writing

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Speaker 1: my book, and I wanted all my poems in one book.

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Speaker 1: And I wanted all of my handstand photos in one

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Speaker 1: book because I've taken them since I was born. I

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Speaker 3: The handstand photos in the book.

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Speaker 5: Lots of well, it starts when I started doing it

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Speaker 5: when I was born, but I don't have any pictures

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Speaker 5: until like four, and then I have photos of handstands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. See, that's before I learned to be on my hands.

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Speaker 1: I had to learn to be on my feet. That's

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Speaker 1: me and my dad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's our.

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Speaker 1: Little humble ghetto neighborhood. And he taught gymnastics in the backyard.

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Speaker 1: In the front yard, actually, we had a trampoline in

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Speaker 1: our backyard and uneven bars and a balance beam. In

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Speaker 1: our backyard, in that little humble neighborhood where we got

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Speaker 1: robbed three times and our Christmas presents got stolen. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: so I thought, I have photographs from until my last

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Speaker 1: handstand was like on my cruise to Greece last summer,

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Speaker 1: and so I thought they should all be together. And

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Speaker 1: then I put little stories in between, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this would be interesting to anyone else,

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Speaker 1: but I'll tell you what. Every night I listened to

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Speaker 1: audio books. I listened to Martin short Story, Our Senior

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Speaker 1: Hall's Story, Liza Manali's life story. I forget the other

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Speaker 1: one I just listened to. And I am fascinated with autobiographies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm hoping that people would enjoy it, not just

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Speaker 1: my children. Well, my children don't even want to look

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Speaker 1: at it because they lived it and they've seen all.

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Speaker 1: They don't they're not interested. Maybe maybe when I die,

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Speaker 1: maybe my grandchildren might read it. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great legacy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a wonderful thing to pass down, and

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Speaker 4: it's great for anyone, to anyone. Everyone should buy this

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Speaker 4: because it's really fun.

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Speaker 3: and there's one.

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Speaker 1: There's one main reason I wrote it. My purpose, my

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Speaker 1: special purpose that God gave me when I was a child,

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Speaker 1: was to share the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the world,

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Speaker 1: to the jew first and also to the Greek. Go

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Speaker 1: into all the world and preach the gospel to the

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Speaker 1: jew first and also to the Greek. And I went

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Speaker 1: to Bible College when I was sixteen. And God tells

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Speaker 1: us that our mission is to tell people the good

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Speaker 6: As eternal life, that Jesus is real, that he loves you,

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Speaker 6: that he died for your sins, and he forgave you,

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Speaker 6: there is no sin, if you just accept Him as your.

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Speaker 1: Lord and savior. And that's the main reason I wanted

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Speaker 1: to write the book, to to use my kookie, unconventional

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Speaker 3: Life exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's why I painted this picture, that his picture, because

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Speaker 1: I'm not a painter, but I try. I painted this picture.

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Speaker 1: It's near the end and it says eternal life, eternal life,

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Speaker 1: eternal life. Where is it? Oh? The color one? They

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Speaker 1: made it into a little did you know it's called tile.

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Speaker 1: When you repeat a picture over and over, it's not

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Speaker 1: Eternal life, Eternal life, eternal life.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I love that.

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Speaker 1: I handstand in my hand. A lot of people want

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Speaker 1: to live forever, and they do it by putting their

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Speaker 4: Or Barbara Streisan has her name on Cedar Sinai right

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Speaker 3: But you know that doesn't help.

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Speaker 1: It's a way to try to live forever. And I'm

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Speaker 4: So but your dad, obviously your your dad was a

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Speaker 1: I didn't know I had a choice. I didn't have

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Speaker 1: was little tumblers in my yard or else. My dad

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Speaker 1: was driving me to you lead a Park or North

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Speaker 1: Miami Armory too, to help him teach classes, and I

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Speaker 1: was on the competitive team and all that jazz.

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Speaker 4: And how did you get into Where did the handstands

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Speaker 3: How did that happen?

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Speaker 1: movie night, and I would go, what does the merger

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00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: it taste like, and he'd give me a sip and

439
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: then I'd say, Oh, can I try a piano? Color

440
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: it up? They're all free, you know, Can I try?

441
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: What's the sex on the beach? What are that days?

442
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 7: Like?

443
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: So anyway, I did start experimenting with cigarettes because all

444
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: of the girls there were skinny and they smoked, so

445
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: Johnny kind of didn't. He wanted to protect me from that.

446
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: But anyway, while I was there, I did meet Betty

447
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: Fanning and she did become my commercial agent. That's how

448
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: I got the Gap commercial audition.

449
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 3: Well when you.

450
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 4: When you met her at the mansion, what did you

451
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 4: say to her? Did you say, I want you to

452
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 4: be I need an agent? Like?

453
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 3: What did you How did you get her to be

454
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: your agent?

455
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: Oh?

456
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: I'll tell you you have good questions, Bucket, our paths.

457
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: Must have I know, we were like ships of the night. Yeah.

458
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: Well, Johnny went up to her and he said, Betty,

459
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: Victoria just got a commercial. I got one on my

460
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:42,479
Speaker 1: own with no agent. So she was listening and she's like,

461
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: oh you did, and he's like yes, she was at

462
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,640
Speaker 1: the Variety Arts Center doing.

463
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 7: Her I forget, I forget what my first commercial was

464
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 7: and it might have been it might have been.

465
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 1: The telephone one where Uh, okay, I'll think of it.

466
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: So I got one by myself because I was performing

467
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: at the Variety Arts Center and someone in the audience

468
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: saw me and they said, you would be great for

469
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: this commercial, and then they gave me an address. So

470
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Betty was impressed that I'd gotten one by myself. You

471
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: know what, I'm starting to think the gap commercial was

472
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: the one I got without her, you know. Okay, this

473
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: is what happened. I was at the Variety Arts Center

474
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: and I was in a play called Hamlet's Last Act.

475
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: It was a spoof on Shakespeare. Drew Barrymore was a

476
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: little kid and she was running around and her she

477
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: was like three, and her mom was ill to go

478
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Jade and her mom was there and Drew Barrymore's brother,

479
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: John Barrymore, our half brother, was playing my love interest

480
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: handle it. I was playing Queen Gertrude. The queen quit

481
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: at the last minute. They wanted Johnny Crawford in it,

482
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: and he took me down there. I said, Johnny, take me,

483
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: take me. He goes Vickie. They didn't ask for you.

484
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 9: I go.

485
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I gotta get a job, and he so they go, Johnny,

486
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: the queen quit. The queen quit. It was Rory Flynn

487
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: Errow Flynn's daughter quit the two days before the play,

488
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: and so they get I go, let me audition, and

489
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: Johnny goes, it's in two days. I go, just let

490
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: me on it. And so they give me the lines

491
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: and then it was Queen Gertrude, and Johnny goes, Victoria,

492
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: it's a satire. So how about if you do it

493
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: like Edith Bunker, do it in a Brooklyn accent. I go,

494
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do a Brooklyn accent. And

495
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: he's like Edith Bunker, and I go, doesn't he kind

496
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: of talk like this? Oh Audie, by the way, glad

497
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: Milaw play And he goes, yeah, yeah. So I auditioned

498
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: like this, Hamlet, my son, how is it that the

499
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: clouds still hang on the good Hamlet? Do well with

500
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: thy valied lids, seek for thy noble father in the dust.

501
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: Thou know it's his common All of the lives must die,

502
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: passing through nature to eternity. So that was my audition

503
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: and I got the part. I had to learn it

504
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: in two days. I was doing that play and the

505
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: gap people were in the audience.

506
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I just remembered this.

507
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: They said, hey, we're doing a gap commercial. Would you

508
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: like the audition. I'm like yeah. So then I got

509
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: the audition. Then I got a call back, and I thought,

510
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: I really want to get this. I need the money.

511
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: So I made up this poem about the gap and

512
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: I did the and my callback audition did the poem

513
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: upside down, standing on my hands holding the handstand for

514
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: a minute, so they remember me. Because the whole room

515
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: was full of blonde girls who were twenty years old.

516
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: It's like, how am I going to stand up? And

517
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: then I got the commercial. They did not use the poem,

518
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: but I found it in all my hows of boxes

519
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: and so I put it in the book.

520
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: Well, back then the gap doing a gap commercial was

521
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 4: very lucrative, I mean doing commercials back in the day

522
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: was like you would get, you know, one hundred grand

523
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: or fifty grand for doing a commercial.

524
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: Yes, And so then I went to the Mansion. Johnny

525
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: introduced me to Betty. I told her about the gap commercial.

526
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: She signed me. Then I started going out for other

527
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: commercials because of her.

528
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 4: By the way, I mean, this is just for people

529
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: who don't know about what a callback audition is. In

530
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 4: a callback, you don't normally go in and do something

531
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 4: off script, like you. The fact that you had that

532
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 4: idea and we're so creative about it is genius because

533
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: at a callback, you just go back in and you

534
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 4: just do the lines again that you did in the

535
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: original audition, and then they you know, the director's there

536
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: and he decided he or she decides if you're right

537
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: for the part. But the fact that you did the

538
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: handstand and the poem, that's like completely unheard of that callbacks.

539
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: Nobody would do that except you.

540
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: It's called desperate ambition.

541
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: Starting to death from blonde ambition. I love it, Okay.

542
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: I got free food twice a week. I got free dinner.

543
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: So, by the way, okay, can I tell you my

544
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: William Morris story and how I got an agent there?

545
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: Yes?

546
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 4: So I when I first moved here, I did a bunch,

547
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 4: I did some random stuff. But then I had for

548
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 4: one month, I temped. I was a temp at the

549
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 4: William Morris Agency, the commercial department where Betty Fanning was right.

550
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: And my job this was before anything was digital, and

551
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: it was all manual, like headshots were physical headshots, and

552
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: so my job was to My office was in the

553
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: room where all the headshots were, all those shelves of

554
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 4: head shots, and so the agents would give me the breakdowns,

555
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 4: the casting director breakdowns, and they would write the names

556
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: of actors that they wanted to send in a packet

557
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: to the casting director to messenger over. And so I

558
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 4: would get the breakdowns with the names of the actors

559
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: and I would have to pull their head shots out

560
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: of the cubby holes, put them in a packet and

561
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: send them messenger them that same day to the casting director.

562
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 4: And then after like this third or week, I was

563
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: I kind of started, like you, I started getting.

564
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: Bold, and.

565
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 4: I read the breakdown of what the commercial what kind

566
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: of actors they needed and what, you know, like they

567
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: want a you know, a six foot two guy with

568
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: blah blah blah with comedic time, you know.

569
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, that's me.

570
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 4: And so I snuck my headshot into one of the

571
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: packets and sent it. I messengered it to the casting director.

572
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: And the next day or that same day, one of

573
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 4: the commercial agents walked down the hall to where I

574
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 4: was the office I was in, and she looked and

575
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 4: by that time we had become kind of friendly. She

576
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: really liked me, and she walked down the hall, she

577
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: looked at me. It was the most and it was

578
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 4: kind of the most embarrassing, like slash horrifying moment of

579
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: my entire life.

580
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: She goes, Beckett, do you have an audition tomorrow? And

581
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, And I.

582
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 4: Thought, and I was like, this could go really badly

583
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: or it could go great. And then immediately she said,

584
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 4: I think it's amazing and I want you to go

585
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: go do it. And so she was like, you can

586
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 4: go leave the office tomorrow and go to the audition,

587
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 4: and I went and I did the audition. I didn't

588
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: get that part, but I got like two weeks later,

589
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: I got a Giant National Budweiser commercial and then they

590
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: signed me as a client.

591
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: So that's how I got it.

592
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 4: And by the way, when I when I got my

593
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: first when I got the Budweiser commercial, I wasn't in

594
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: the Screen Actors Guild, which you have to be, and.

595
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: So I didn't know.

596
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 4: The night before the shoot, I was totally panicked about

597
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 4: what was going to happen the next day when I

598
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: showed up on set. So I drive up on set

599
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 4: and the second ad, the second assistant director comes out

600
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: to me and he's like, oh, Beckett, you're here, okay,

601
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, hey, can I I need to

602
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 4: tell you something.

603
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm not sag And he goes, oh, no.

604
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 4: No problem, like just fill out this Tafteartley form and

605
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 4: you're fine.

606
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, okay, good.

607
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: And to this day, my age still don't know that story.

608
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: They don't know that I wasn't sag because they would

609
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 4: have never allowed me to do that. In fact, they

610
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: asked me if I was sag before that and before

611
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: that audition, and I said.

612
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: Yes, even though I wasn't. I said yes, I'm sag.

613
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: And so anyway, to this day, they still don't know

614
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: that story. But anyway, that's how Hollywood works. You just

615
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 4: gotta just do it, do whatever it is.

616
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: That's a great story. And it's what are you saying

617
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: you did the same thing I did.

618
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: We broke the rules. You broke the rules.

619
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: When I was breaking the rules, I remember thinking it's

620
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: not hurting anyone, this isn't cancer. I'm not doing surgery.

621
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: No one's gonna die.

622
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not.

623
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: Breaking any moral laws for you to slip your picture

624
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: in there. You know, I could see that coming. When

625
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: you said your job was to get the pick pictures,

626
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, yeah, just live your own pictures.

627
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 3: I know, I know. It was amazing.

628
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: And it's funny because I still have the same agents

629
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: to this day, but there it's at a different agency.

630
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 3: I never I don't go out. I don't go out anymore.

631
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 3: But it's an A p A now. So But anyway,

632
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: so you had.

633
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: The same ambition. I had the same amount of.

634
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, mackah, Okay, another story from your book. Tell us

635
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: that if you can I don't know if this is

636
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 4: I mean, it's in your book. You can talk about it, like,

637
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 4: but tell us of Jessica Han's story.

638
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: Jessica Han, so I got a part.

639
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: By the way, Okay.

640
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: She was a church secretary for Jim Baker and Tammy

641
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: fay Baker in the eighties. The PTL. Minne Street had

642
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: a huge church and they were making a lot of money.

643
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: They had a huge TV show on TV.

644
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: Yes and Tammy Baker used to cry and her mass

645
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: scare would come down.

646
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: Who did who did her? On Jan Hooks? Jan Hooks.

647
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: She did a great job.

648
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: Was a genius and she did Jessica Han and Tammy

649
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: fay Baker. I was. I was in the cast too,

650
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: and I'm like, can't I play one of the girls

651
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: in this saga? But Jen is a genius and I

652
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: mostly played yeah, did blonde, mostly.

653
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: Not completely.

654
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: But I think she said, didn't chan Hooks say in

655
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 4: that in that sketch she said, demonic raisins I rebuke you.

656
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: I remember that as a kid like she was.

657
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: She was being she was, you know, acting like Tammy

658
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: fay Baker, and she was like, debatic, raisins I rebuke you.

659
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: Yes, she was on Church Chat with Dana Carvey and

660
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: it was perfect because there were such cartoon people like,

661
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, they made it so easy to make fun

662
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: of them, you know, And I was like a Christian,

663
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, don't represent me, don't represent Christians, you know.

664
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: But but all in all, I think their hearts were sincere.

665
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: And I love Tammy Faye Baker, that the movies they

666
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: made of her, the documentary about her and everything. Yeah,

667
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: I think people a lot of people start out sincere

668
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: in the ministry for Jesus, and then temptations kind of

669
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: take over. I've had five pastors commit adultery. They were great,

670
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: great prep pastors and I've had, you know, so we're.

671
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: Sinners, and so tell us about Okay, she was.

672
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: The secretary for Jim Baker and he went to a

673
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: hotel with another preacher to do some revival and he

674
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: brought her along to be his babysitter. And he slipped

675
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: in her hotel room and had sex with her and said,

676
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: don't tell anyone. And you know, she could have said no,

677
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: but she kind of idolized him. And I think she

678
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: didn't have a father figure in her life. I don't know.

679
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: I've heard her side and I've heard the media side,

680
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: so it was very sensationalized. You know. Basically, Jim Baker

681
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 1: took advantage of a young girl who loved Jesus and

682
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: thought he was awesome. So anyway, so it was what

683
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: happened was Jim Baker went to jail. They lost, they

684
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: lost their ministry, every they lost everything. Tammy Fay a

685
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: breast cancer and everything. But anyway, Jessicahan then she was

686
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: famous in a shameful way, and I think she tried

687
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: to turn it into something. So she was in Playboy

688
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: saying I'm not a bimbo and stripping, and it was

689
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: on the cover of Playboy and one of the writers

690
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: came by my desk one day and threw it on

691
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: my desk and goes, hey, Paul, can.

692
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 8: You be quiet.

693
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: You're distracting me. So I have to focus on myself.

694
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: Me me, me, me me. At the end of my book,

695
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: I go on the audio recording, I go, I'm so

696
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: sick of talking about me.

697
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: Let's talking about.

698
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: Epstein, let's talk about Bill Gates, anything but me.

699
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: Okay, So the writer throws it on your desk and

700
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 3: what happens, Yeah.

701
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: And so it says I'm not a bimbo. And so

702
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: the writer, Christine Xander, she goes that that would be

703
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: good for you, and you know she's a writer, like

704
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: write it, but she just walked away. So I was like, oh, yeah,

705
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: We're always trying to think of ideas and we're all

706
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: it's everyone's out for themselves. Nobody was assigned to give

707
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: me lines. I'm the only one who cares if I

708
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: have lines in the cast of SML. So I'm like, oh,

709
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: I could write that, and immediately I think of everything

710
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: in a Poemer song. I don't know how to write

711
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: characters because I didn't watch SNL when I grew up,

712
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: So I wrote just because of the way I look,

713
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: just because of what I wear, just because of how

714
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: I act and how I fix my hair. You think

715
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: you can label me, but don't you dare because I'm

716
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: not a bimbo. So I wrote this song. Greg at

717
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: the desk helped me. This other guy helped me with

718
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: some lines I submitted to read through. Lauren says, no,

719
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: everyone loved it. Lauren said no. I go to his office.

720
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: I know everyone loved the bimbo song. And he goes,

721
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't like the blues because I had written it

722
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: like just because of the widook, just because of what

723
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: it is, because of hah. And so I go, well,

724
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: we can change the music, and he goes, take it

725
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: to Cheryl. So I took it to Cheryl Hardwick who

726
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: played the piano, and she's short, blonde hair, and she

727
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: was playing the piano with a cigarette and the ash

728
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: was not falling off. I go to her office and

729
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: she's playing Beethoven, she's practicing, and the ash is not flying,

730
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: not flying, And I go, excuse me, Cheryl, Lauren said,

731
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: could you rewrite the music to my bimbo song? She goes, huh,

732
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: all right, and in two seconds she makes it a

733
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: pop song instead of a blues These are my friends

734
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: from Phoenix.

735
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: Hi, Phoenix friends. We'll get you later.

736
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're big fans of yours Beckett.

737
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 3: Oh we okay, Hi Hi.

738
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll bring them back.

739
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 3: To say hi, We'll bring your back.

740
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: So anyway, I sang the Bembo song. It's a big hit.

741
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: It's the first moment where I felt respected by my

742
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: peers because there was a news story. It was in

743
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: the Current News. It used my whatever talent, Yeah, on

744
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: the update desk with Dennis Miller, and it was a

745
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: big hit. And so years go by and I get

746
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: a little part on Unhappily ever After and it was

747
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: the producer who did Married with Children. It was his spinoff,

748
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: and I went to do the job. I had to

749
00:44:54,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: play the girlfriend of a conjoined twin, so I had

750
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: to make out with a guy who's attached to his brother.

751
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: Oh. So it was Jessica Han.

752
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: There she and so when we were rehearsing, the producer

753
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: writer said, my girlfriend is Jessica Han and she would

754
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: love to meet you, and I said, no way. And

755
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: so she came to lunch and she's tiny, tiny little thing,

756
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, Jessica I'm so sorry I kind

757
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: of made fun of you on the show. And she goes, oh,

758
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: that's okay. You know, she was very gracious. She said,

759
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: it was the hardest time in my life, but I'm glad,

760
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, you lightened it up. I said, man, I

761
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: would have felt terrible if I was you, And I'm sorry.

762
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: I always felt kind of bad because Saturday Night Live

763
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: makes fun of people.

764
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's what I mean. That's what all comedy

765
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: is pretty much. That basically it's I mean, if you

766
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 4: if you think about shows like Friends and those sitcoms,

767
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 4: it's all about making fun of each other on the show.

768
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: That's all they do.

769
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, put downs. Put downs like in the seventies that became.

770
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 4: Like oh yeah, like on good Times or you know,

771
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: like all in the family, like that was all it

772
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 4: was all about.

773
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 3: That just it was constant like put downs.

774
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is the opposite of the Bible, which says

775
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: I edify one.

776
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 3: Another different strokes.

777
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: I never watched that. We didn't have a TV and

778
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: have a TV.

779
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 3: It takes different strokes. Okay.

780
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: So we got to know each other and she's very gracious,

781
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: and then when and I said, let's make a let's

782
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: make a sitcom a reality show together because I want

783
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: to sell my my There's fudge, and we could show

784
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: what it's like for two people who know nothing about

785
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: cooking or selling food to just do the journey. It

786
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: would be a great reality show and it's a great

787
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: recipe and nobody knows it except me and my mom

788
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: and our family. And Jessica was up for it, and

789
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: we pitched it to a couple of places, and then

790
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: the fires took over our neighborhood and act in California,

791
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: and the fire was lapping like twenty feet from our

792
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 1: house and we were evacuated and I had to think

793
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: of what to throw in my car. I threw my

794
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: three dogs, my laptop, my big Bible, and my lion rug,

795
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: my real lion, authentic lion rug, which is in my book.

796
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: There's a poem about it. Anyway, threw it in my

797
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: cart and Jessica Han offered for us to stay at

798
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: her house until the fires passed, and I thought that

799
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: was really really really sweet.

800
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 4: Ah, And she's she's still she's still a Christian now right.

801
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: She as far as I know, she's watching Jim Baker,

802
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: who's still who is now on TV again as a

803
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: TV evangelist. He's remarried and Jessica Han still watches him

804
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: and as a fan.

805
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

806
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: Now another thing that I didn't you were on the

807
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.

808
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 8: With Robin Leach Victoria Jackson's spats no expense on how

809
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 8: money no object mention?

810
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 3: What was how are you on the lifestyles?

811
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: That was a good impression.

812
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: I know I do good, Robin.

813
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 9: Chin he says, like a uh, Victoria Jackson takes us

814
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 9: on a vacation, Wait on a I can't think of

815
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 9: the line of.

816
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 3: On a money, no object, vacation of a lifetime.

817
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: But anyway, tell us how you got a Lifestyles of

818
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: the Rich and Famous.

819
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: Yes, he was shouting all the time.

820
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: He shouted. He was obsessed with he was obsessed with, mammon,

821
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: he was obsessed.

822
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: Yes, oh money. Well, when they asked me, I was

823
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: like yes because I said yes to and you know,

824
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: I said you, oh, a free trip to Coln, Germany.

825
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 8: Yes, only the jet said elite can afford. This is

826
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 8: the super vacation of a lifetime.

827
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: Right, So when I watched the show, I thought it

828
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: was just a bird's like a fly on the wall.

829
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: Watching what the rich people do. But then I learned differently. Basically,

830
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: they paid for my trip there, They paid for my

831
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: hotel so that I would be doing a big commercial

832
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: for them, for Germany, for the airline, for the hotel,

833
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: for Cologne Germany, like who goes to Colone, Germany? Ko Ln,

834
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: It's where Cologne was invented. And they made me stand

835
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: in front of a big church, but I didn't get

836
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: to go in it because we were rushing. I stood

837
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: in front of a castle, but I didn't get to

838
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: go in it because I was just doing a commercial,

839
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: like I want to go in the castle. My main

840
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: goal was to see Paris, so like I have to

841
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: see Paris before I died. And I was twenty six,

842
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: so or I was twenty eight. So we went to Paris,

843
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: and but it was right when the Gulf War was starting,

844
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: and these F fourteens were flying overhead when I was

845
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: at the castle in Colon. They were flying in a

846
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: formation really loud, really low over my head, and I

847
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: was like, what's that, and like the Gulf War starting,

848
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: and I thought it was maybe World War three. So

849
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't ask anyone because nothing on TV was in English.

850
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I didn't know how to find there's no

851
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: cell phones. So I was like, oh no, it's the

852
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: end of the world. And my child, my only child,

853
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: who's four, was with my three years old was with

854
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: my mother in America. So I did not see Paris.

855
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: I cut my trips, my free trip short, and I

856
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: went back home. And then so my whole life was

857
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: like I got to go back to Paris and actually

858
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: see the Louver and the Eiffel Tower. So I did.

859
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: When I got cancer, I finally twisted my husband's arm,

860
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: like I have cancer. You're not going to take me now,

861
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: You're never gonna take me.

862
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: Well good, and we're going to actually we're going to

863
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 4: get to some of the Paris photo of you doing

864
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: a handstand.

865
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: Let me wait, how do I do this?

866
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: Okay, so but let's I just want to go through

867
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 4: some of the pictures and the book and just ask

868
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 4: some questions.

869
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,760
Speaker 3: This is like, this is very good form here.

870
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: This is Anarexic Bollimic Victoria. And I had a gymnastics scholarship,

871
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: so I had a lot of pressure to win meets

872
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: and stay skinny. And Furman was a great place because

873
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: that's where I did my first play, and I got

874
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: the acting bug because Rhett Bryson, my professor, let me audition.

875
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: I said, I was there with a friend and I said, oh,

876
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm not here to audition. I'm with my friend. And

877
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: he goes, no, you can audition. I don't. I don't

878
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: know how to act. He goes, that's okay, just read

879
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 1: these lines. And it was a part of an airhead.

880
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: I did see Aaron and I read the lines. I

881
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: got the part. And when I did that play at

882
00:52:54,239 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: Furman in South Carolina, Red Bryson, Yeah, I made people laugh.

883
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 1: Then I was hooked.

884
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: So you gave up. You gave up the gymnastics scholarship and.

885
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: So the gymnastic thing. So I couldn't afford Furman without

886
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: the gymnastics scholarship. What happened was I made small college nationals.

887
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: But the coach, Nancy, who you brought up earlier, she

888
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: didn't tell me that I.

889
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,720
Speaker 3: Made it right.

890
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: So I made that I made it, but I missed it.

891
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: What happened was I got my dad. The coach got

892
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: a letter from Gaza Martini at the University of Chicago

893
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: gymnastic team, and it said where was Victoria? They read

894
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: her name at the small college Nationals and my dad said, VICKI,

895
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: what is this?

896
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 7: I go.

897
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: I told you Nancy was mean to me. I told

898
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: you Nancy coaching. Nancy was mean to me. It was

899
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: always like, why would a coach be mean to you?

900
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: So she off fired and about five years later, eighteen

901
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty two, twenty three, I had to come up

902
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: with something for the Tonight show and I thought, hey,

903
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: I had already been on Johnny Carson twice and Jim

904
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: McCauley said, he wants you back, but it has to

905
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: be really big and I said, well, I've run out

906
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: of all my material, and they said well, I said, hey,

907
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: what if I do my old balance being routine and

908
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: I sing a song while I'm doing it that's never

909
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: been done before singing gymnastics And I could do that.

910
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: So McCauley I went to the gym in Pasadena and

911
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 1: I asked permission to work out and get my routine back,

912
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: but they were afraid to let me because I was

913
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: now twenty three. They didn't want me to get hurt

914
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: and sue them, So I had McCauley go to the

915
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: gym in Pasadena and he told them if they would

916
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: if i'd sign a paper I won't sue them if

917
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: I get hurt. And he kind of lied to them,

918
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: and he said he would put them on the Tonight

919
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: Show their gymnastic team if they let me work out.

920
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: And they did let me work out, and he didn't

921
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: ever let their gymnastic team get on TV, but they

922
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: did let me work out. I got some of my

923
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: tricks back and made up the song angry Woman, based

924
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: on coach Nancy not telling me I made Nationals, and

925
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: so I made it song I Am an angry woman.

926
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I got a street

927
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: in my hair yea yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

928
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: I like to air my dirty laundry. If you don't

929
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: like me, I don't care. Nasty punk was big in

930
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: the eighties and I.

931
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: Sound like Missing Persons. Remember that band Missing Persons Walking

932
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 4: in LA. That is kind of the same. Remember you

933
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: don't remember that band?

934
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: No, Because I didn't know anything about bands. I already

935
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: know gospel forties music, Carpenters and John Denver and the

936
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: Best of Bread. That's all I know. So I made

937
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: up that song and I sang in on Carson and

938
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: it's still on YouTube. It's on YouTube. In black and

939
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: white because mcaulay said, would you like a copy of it?

940
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: And he goes, I'm going to give you the copy

941
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 1: in black and white because there's a legal legally, they

942
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 1: probably won't let you ever show this because NBC owns

943
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: it and Johnny Carson owns it. But if I give

944
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: it to you black and white, there's a loophole. So

945
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: right now, Johnny Carson has never aired any of my

946
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: twenty appearances, but that one is on because it's my

947
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: copy and it's in black and white, and it hasn't

948
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: been extracted yet. Maybe because of that clause.

949
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 4: And the very first time you were on the Carson Show,

950
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 4: were you nervis or were you How did you feel

951
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 4: right before you went out?

952
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I everybody knew in the eighties

953
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: if Johnny liked you, you would have a career. And

954
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: after I did my first six minutes of stand up,

955
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: he went like that, and I call my dad and

956
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: my dad goes, he gave you the sign. He gave

957
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: you the sign. And so but before I walked out,

958
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: I was behind the curtain. Jim McCauley, the town scout,

959
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: was holding the curtain to pull it back and he

960
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: was shaking, and I said, Jim, why are you shaking?

961
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm the one who has to go out there, and

962
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 1: he goes because if Johnny doesn't like you, I get

963
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: fired and people couldn't decide whether I was really bad

964
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: or really smart, so he pulls back the curtain. I'd

965
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: go out and hit my mark. I start doing my

966
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: six minutes, which I'd done for two years at the

967
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: Right Art Center to hone it, and I kind of

968
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: felt my soul go out of my body, like I

969
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: don't believe in any of that stuff, and I've never

970
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: dabbled in anything occult, but I remember feeling like I

971
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: was in the back of the room watching myself do

972
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: the end when it because I was so nervous. When

973
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: it ended, I came back in myself, heard noise again,

974
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: saw something like that, yeah.

975
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: And then that sounds that reminds me of I did.

976
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: I did stand up uh comedy uh And for just

977
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 4: a it was a little period of time, but I

978
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 4: I was at the mint on Peko and it was

979
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 4: a big audience, and and the the MC she was

980
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 4: like and now, and there were like, you know, several

981
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 4: comics and you had seven minutes that I think it

982
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 4: was seven minutes, and she said, and now please welcome

983
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: back at Cook and I and literally when she said

984
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 4: my name, and Mike de Luca was in the audience,

985
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: like the head of New Line Cinema, Like it was crazy.

986
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 4: The second she said my name, I just felt like

987
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 4: there was like a white light and I was so

988
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: nervous that I could just it was like this blinding

989
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 4: white light.

990
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 3: Yes, I couldn't.

991
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 4: I totally understand how you felt because I just was like,

992
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 4: it was.

993
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 3: Like an out of body experience.

994
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: But you did go on the stage and you did talk.

995
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

996
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: But the funny thing is the second I got on stage,

997
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: I was so nervous, But I said, I didn't even

998
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 4: plan this joke.

999
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: At the very beginning. I just I made I made.

1000
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 4: A comment about what I was wearing, like a funny comment,

1001
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 4: and everyone erupted in laughter. And then I was like, oh,

1002
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh my gosh, I have I've

1003
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: got them like and like, and then it all was

1004
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: great for the rest of the seven minutes.

1005
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was very scary. That was a scary

1006
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: thing I've ever done. Stand up comedy is the scariest

1007
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: thing you can ever do.

1008
00:59:59,120 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.

1009
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 3: Okay, wait, let's look at let's look at it.

1010
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you for doing it, and I

1011
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: think you'd be a great stand up and I think

1012
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: you should still do it.

1013
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: I should continue my stand up career. Okay, maybe I'll

1014
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: call Betty Fanning and Steve if show represip me.

1015
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: She just passed away.

1016
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 3: I know she's not alive. Okay, so how do you.

1017
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 4: Because I think you mentioned it in your book. Okay,

1018
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 4: so let's look at hold on. Okay, that's you in

1019
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: front of the Hollywood sign with the fire eater.

1020
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: No, that's Johnny Crawford who gave me, you know, took

1021
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: me to Hollywood. Okay, twenty years later when it's fatter.

1022
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 3: And what's this? What's this photo?

1023
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: That's my cigarette girl job. So many great magical things

1024
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: happened to me at the Variety Arts Center. I got

1025
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: the job doing cigarettes cashoes because it was a thirties

1026
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: atmosphere and the boss do you want to work there?

1027
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: Got to do a little act, and I said to

1028
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: Milt Larson, he owns the Magic Castle too, I said, Milk,

1029
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: could I do an act? And he goes, what do

1030
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: you do? And I said, well, I can stand upside

1031
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: down and recite poetry and he goes, this, I've got

1032
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: to see, so he let me. I would put down

1033
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 1: my cigarette tray after a couple hours, go up on

1034
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: stage in the mic. The orchestra would play hold Me,

1035
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: through Me, Kiss Me. I would do my act for

1036
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: six minutes that I was working on for Carson, and

1037
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: then I'd resume my cigarette girl job. And that's where

1038
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: the Tonight Show talent scout discovered me there and that

1039
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: was my job.

1040
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 3: Where was this venue in La? I don't remember what

1041
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 3: this is.

1042
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: Well, it was off the beaten track because it was

1043
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: in a dangerous neighborhood in downtown La on Figueroa. And

1044
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: I did get held up with a gun there and

1045
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: wrote a song about it. It's in my book.

1046
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is you and Playboy.

1047
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did not give them permission for that. But

1048
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: that's the costume I was wearing on the half hour

1049
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: comedy Hour that I was in with Oursenio Hall. Okay,

1050
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: someone must have taken it on the set.

1051
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 4: And then and so you were in Playboy magazine, but

1052
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 4: you weren't really You weren't really like in Playboy magazine exactly.

1053
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: This was the page where they just put things like whatever.

1054
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like fun stuff. Now, what's this? What's where is this?

1055
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: Hollywood? And Vine? And I had just gotten on the

1056
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: Tonight show like for my first time, and I was

1057
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: so happy and excited. And you can see the signs.

1058
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: One sign says Hollywood, the other street sign says Vine.

1059
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: And that guy with the beard, his name's Joseph Gunches.

1060
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: And he was always very supportive of my career because

1061
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: I didn't really have one. I just was in it

1062
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: one day at a time.

1063
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 4: That looks really dangerous though, like as it looks like

1064
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 4: have you did you ever fall?

1065
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: I felt I fell a year ago when I was

1066
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: at the Plaza in New York for the SNL fifty.

1067
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: I was so excited I did a handstand in my

1068
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: hotel room and I was leaning on the bed and

1069
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 1: Paul was like, Vicky, don't do that, and I was

1070
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: just so excited. I wanted a handstand photo. And I

1071
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: fell on my head and I heard my spine go

1072
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: because I've been bone I've bone cancer right now, because

1073
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: that's that's a side effect of chemo or something. So anyway,

1074
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: but I never felt, no, I never never never felt.

1075
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: I was about sixty six but because you know, if

1076
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna fall, you just turn you turn off, you know.

1077
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: I learned how to fall from gymnastics, so you just

1078
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: turn off on your feet. I didn't.

1079
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: It's called a round round up, a round off. Yeah,

1080
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: what's that?

1081
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: Was the first Tonight show and I put the mic

1082
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: on the ground so they could hear my poem. Then

1083
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,000
Speaker 1: after at the at the end of the poem, I

1084
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: was out of breath, so I laid on the ground

1085
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: and while I'm catching my breath, I do the life

1086
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: of a Rug poem.

1087
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: That's good.

1088
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 4: Now this is you and Willie Nelson. Now was he

1089
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 4: stone when you did this sketch with him?

1090
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: Probably? I remember he did not come to the rehearsal,

1091
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: and I was thinking, well, I wrote the song. I

1092
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: know this song. He didn't come to the rehearsal, so

1093
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen. It's live TV. So

1094
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: he the words were on cue cards and he's so charming.

1095
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: He just stumbled his way through it and it turned

1096
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: out really good.

1097
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 4: I remember seeing that actually at the when it was

1099
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 4: on at that time, Okay.

1100
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 3: What this is hilarious? What is this? And what is this?

1101
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: And you have Luke one seventeen on your.

1102
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: Legs, it's Luke one thirty seven.

1103
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: It's sorry.

1104
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my favorite Bible verse. It says, for with God,

1105
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: nothing shall be impossible. And I, I don't know if

1106
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: I asked them permission or not to do this, but

1107
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: I was getting my BA degree and I was forty

1108
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:46,439
Speaker 1: eight and it was Pombeach Atlantic University in Florida, and

1109
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: I was crossing the stage to get my diploma and

1110
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: I had to do that for my handstand collection.

1111
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 3: What did they think of it?

1112
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: Well, that guy's smiling, but some of the people, well

1113
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: some of the intellectual educate tours in the background are

1114
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: looking kind of dismayed.

1115
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, they were having it. Now.

1116
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 4: This is you on SNL with Dennis Miller. I love

1117
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 4: this picture. This is such a great photo.

1118
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: Did you and Dennis Miller have good chemistry on set.

1119
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: Only on the air? Off the air, he was kept

1120
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: to himself. But I was trying to figure out how

1121
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: to get on the show. And I didn't know how

1122
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: to write characters or impressions. But I didn't know how

1123
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: to write what I think or what I sing. So

1124
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: somebody helped me write this. It was either al Franken

1125
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: or maybe that got the old guy. But they helped

1126
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: me write this update piece about Reikievic. Reagan was going

1127
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: to Reikievic for peace talks and the story what my

1128
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: news reporter story is in Russia, you you wouldn't have

1129
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: the freedom to do the news like this. And then

1130
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: I get up there and then goes on meric That

1131
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: was my first handstand on SNL.

1132
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: Did the audience love it?

1133
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: Yes, and they were surprised.

1134
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 3: That is funny? And did did Lauren like it?

1135
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: Lorden Michaels, Yes, I think so, But he doesn't. He

1136
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:37,919
Speaker 1: doesn't give you many compliments. He just doesn't fire you.

1137
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

1138
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 4: That's the compliment, is not getting fired. And what does

1139
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 4: it say on your legs? In this photo on SNL.

1140
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:53,479
Speaker 1: Okay, it says I love a cop because there's there's

1141
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: a musical.

1142
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 3: Was a cop? Right? Paul was a cop?

1143
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Yes? And the funniest story is when he was coming

1144
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: to see me at Saturday Night Live in nineteen ninety two.

1145
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: We were dating again. It was the first night he

1146
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 1: was coming to the show. It happened to be the

1147
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: first night he shot and killed the first man of

1148
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: his career, and he had to stay up all night

1149
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: filling out paperwork and getting counseling, because I guess that's

1150
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: what happens if you kill somebody. And my little joke

1151
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: is maybe he was anxious to see me. So he

1152
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: flies to New York and he comes to the set

1153
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,879
Speaker 1: and I'm getting out of an alien spaceship with eyeballs

1154
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: on my nipples because we're doing a sketch about a

1155
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: planet where women's eyes have mutated to their nipples because

1156
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 1: men stare at women's chests for so long. And he

1157
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: comes to the set and Cristiali is our leader, and

1158
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,600
Speaker 1: I go, Paul, Hi, this must be so surreal for

1159
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: you to stay up all night and kill somebody and

1160
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: see me getting out of a spaceship, and he goes, yes,

1161
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: it is so. Then I because that's why he talks.

1162
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: So then I took him upstairs and I introduced him

1163
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: to the cast. Mike Myers and Dana Carven. Every want

1164
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: to go, hey, everybody, this is my boyfriend, the cop.

1165
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 1: And Mike Myers goes, hey, you got any war stories?

1166
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: Oh no, and Paul goes, I killed a man last night,

1167
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:34,799
Speaker 1: And there was silence. It was the greatest comedic minds

1168
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 1: of our generation could not.

1169
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: Think of a comeback that is hilarious.

1170
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, And.

1171
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 3: Was Lauren upset that you had I Love a Cop

1172
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 3: on your legs?

1173
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: No? No, we were always trying to come up with ideas.

1174
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: So that was the show. I was going to announce

1175
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: I was engaged and leaving the show to get married

1176
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: and because I had a daughter and I didn't want

1177
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: to be her to go through a divorce and not

1178
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: have mommy at home and all that. So I was

1179
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: going to leave the show six years. My contract was

1180
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: for five. I was leaving a sixth. Lauren said I

1181
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: could stay as long as I want, so I wasn't

1182
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: fired or anything. So I told the wardrobe department, could

1183
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: you make could you get this on my legs? They're

1184
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: so clever? Those were stockings and they painted it on

1185
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: exactly to be where you could read it on camera.

1186
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: Amazing and yeah, and then they then I sang a

1187
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: song called I Love a Cop from a musical, so

1188
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: that was my And then I shown my diamond ring.

1189
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 4: It's this one and uh and you and this is

1190
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 4: another one with you on a cale. And in the

1191
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 4: book you talk about how you got how did you get?

1192
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,720
Speaker 3: Paul to get you pregnant because you wanted to. You

1193
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 3: wanted to have a baby with Paul.

1194
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:04,599
Speaker 1: Right, So that's his cop car. It was very hard

1195
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: for me to move to the suburbs of Miami after

1196
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: being in that exciting atmosphere in New York, and it

1197
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: about killed me. But I love being a mom. But

1198
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: we had this one daughter, and I said, Paul, I

1199
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: want more children. I've given up everything for you, and

1200
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: he goes, we already have enough. We have one. No, no, no,

1201
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: that's not acceptable. I have nothing to do all day.

1202
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: So he so when he came home from work one night,

1203
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: I held his gun up to my head and it

1204
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: was loaded, and I said, get me pregnant now, or

1205
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 1: I'll shoot myself. And he goes, figuring, no, this is

1206
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: not funny. That's loaded. This isn't funny. Many not be pregnant.

1207
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 3: But there's you with your babies.

1208
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: But then he never would do it again. I wanted more,

1209
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: but now I have five grandchildren, and so that's good.

1210
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: There's you with Scarlet and Aubrey.

1211
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1212
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 3: Ay.

1213
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 4: Scarlet is from the fire Eater and Aubrey's from Paul.

1214
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: Yes, and Scarlett is now married to a pastor and

1215
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: lives in Texas with four kids, and Aubrey just had

1216
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 1: her first baby and lives half an hour away in Tennessee.

1217
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 4: Amazing, amazing, this is you on what star? Are you

1218
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 4: doing a handstand in front.

1219
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: Of Billy Graham?

1220
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 3: I love that? Why did you do that?

1221
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: Who knew he had a star on Hollywood Boulevard?

1222
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 4: I know, I didn't even know that until I saw

1223
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 4: this picture. It's kind of crazy.

1224
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: And then this muscular cowboy guy walks into the shot,

1225
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 1: which was great. We did not plan that. He just

1226
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: happened to be walking towards the garbage can.

1227
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 4: What were in general, what were people's reactions when you

1228
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 4: did handstands in public?

1229
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: Amused or ignoring me? Yes, slightly, slightly amused, mostly ignoring me.

1230
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 3: Now this is you and tell your ride? Colorado? I think,

1231
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 3: where are you? Yeah?

1232
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: Tell tell you ride. I might have gotten the city wrong,

1233
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: but it is Colorado where there's a snow skiing place nearby.

1234
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 4: I love that shot because it's just it's it's such

1235
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 4: a great shot with the mountains in the background, US

1236
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:34,600
Speaker 4: coming towards me.

1237
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 3: Oh wait, let's seek motorcycles. I know. Did they have

1238
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:40,839
Speaker 3: to stop?

1239
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 1: No? I said Paul Take the picture quick, and I

1240
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: run out there and do it, and then we run

1241
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: off the street.

1242
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 4: And then you're of course you're on a train track,

1243
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 4: where seems dangerous too.

1244
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: Yes, the more they're danger the better the photograph. The

1245
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: most dangerous one is me and a thirty foot tall

1246
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 1: our teeny glass bathtub at the Poconos.

1247
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 4: Oh now, where was this train track? What city was

1248
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 4: this in?

1249
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 1: I think that was Vegas?

1250
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, yeah, okay.

1251
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 4: This is you at the fiftieth anniversary with Paul McCartney

1252
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 4: and Adam Sandler and John Love.

1253
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: It's to know me well. The great story of this

1254
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: is it's at the end of the SNL fifty show.

1255
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm exhausted, it's midnight. I am terrified of schmoozing and celebrities.

1256
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: So I just kind of it kind of crept up

1257
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 1: to love it because he's the only one I feel

1258
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: comfortable talking to. We're still in touch by text now

1259
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: and then and I said, John, do you have a car?

1260
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: How am I going to get to my hotel? It's midnight.

1261
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to go out there and try to

1262
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:59,440
Speaker 1: find a taxi. Do you have a car driver or something?

1263
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: And he I think there's a shuttle, but yeah, you

1264
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 1: can come with me, but I'm not leaving yet. I mean,

1265
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 1: look who's here. And I because he loves schmoozing, and

1266
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: like he introduced me to de Niro while we were

1267
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: standing there, and I don't know if de Niro knows

1268
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: my politics, but oh, d Niro looks like he's always angry,

1269
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 1: so I don't know what he was thinking. But so then.

1270
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the ticket.

1271
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then McCartney and Adam Sandler and Mosey on

1272
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: over and love It goes, hey, let's take a selfie,

1273
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: and I said, I was like, can I be in it?

1274
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: Because like, no one asks me to be in it?

1275
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: I know he meant them, and McCartney put his arm

1276
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: around me and pulled me in to the photo.

1277
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 4: Sweet, did you see the documentary on Paul McCartney, the

1278
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 4: recent one?

1279
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 3: No, it's really good. It was really good.

1280
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: So he pulled me in and Love It took the pic,

1281
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 1: the selfie, and then Love It sent it to me

1282
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 1: later and I go, I owe you so much for

1283
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: this picture.

1284
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 4: Well, Adam Sandler got got kind of cut out of

1285
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 4: the picture almost.

1286
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, poor Adam. Now I love this shot. This is

1287
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 3: you in.

1288
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 4: Front of the Eiffel Tower. This was when this was

1289
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 4: what year was this?

1290
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: This was twenty one and my husband took it and

1291
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: I was thrilled that our hotel looked right onto the

1292
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower, because you never know if you buy something

1293
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: online and there's this language problem, you know, yeah, because

1294
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't speak French.

1295
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: But we got that.

1296
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I tried to learn it. It's too hard. And

1297
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: then Paul was very he's a very bad traveler and

1298
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: he's always comeing. So two years later I took my

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Speaker 1: girlfriend with me and I got another shot from the

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Speaker 1: same hotel with my girlfriend, Lolo, and she doesn't complain

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Speaker 1: like him. She actually loved seeing the louve et cetera.

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Speaker 4: Let's see if there's a oh, and this is you

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Speaker 4: in front of Buckingham Palace.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, me and Paul went to Greece with Eric Metaxash right.

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Speaker 1: He had a cruise to Grease because he's Greek, and

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Speaker 1: he took a bunch of his fans and we were

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Speaker 1: his fans, so we went with him to Greece. And

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Speaker 1: that was in London on the way to Greece.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so those are I mean, there's a zillion more

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Speaker 4: photos in your book, but that's all I have. But

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Speaker 4: do you can you send us out with a song

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Speaker 4: either whatever you want, not dead yet, or whatever song

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Speaker 4: you wanted to sing.

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Speaker 1: Let me well, you asked me to sing bimbos and bikinis.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever, whichever one you like best.

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Speaker 1: I think I should just send you out with this

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Speaker 1: poem because this is the most important poem in the

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Speaker 1: whole world. Not dead yet, okay, not dead yet, never

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Speaker 1: will be because Jesus died and rose for me.

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Speaker 3: That's it. I love it. We'll end with the bimbos

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Speaker 3: and bikinis.

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Speaker 7: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm in New York in my office where people are

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Speaker 1: close because it's cold, while you're at U Beach in

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Speaker 1: Miami watching bimbos walk by in bikinis. I never look

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Speaker 1: at other men because I have you, But you look

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Speaker 1: at bimbos and bikinis. Do you have to.

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Speaker 3: Say?

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Speaker 1: I wrote this one me and Power dating again in Miami,

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Speaker 1: and he took me to South Beach for a day.

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Speaker 1: I'm not neurotic or insecure. I'm a nineties woman and

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Speaker 1: all my thoughts are mature. I have no reason not

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Speaker 1: to trust you, and I want you to be free.

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Speaker 1: But you're looking at bimbos and bikinis instead of looking

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Speaker 1: at me. I don't like Miami. There's too much flesh

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Speaker 1: out of control. When someone's boobs are in your face,

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Speaker 1: how can you see their soul? It's the best line

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Speaker 1: I ever wrote, because I love that line, and men

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Speaker 1: just like the word boobs. Bus is rampant and all.

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Speaker 1: I see our bikinis and bimbos on MTV and magazines,

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Speaker 1: on the streets everywhere. You'd have to be blind not

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Speaker 1: to notice them there. Hey, if you were blind, our

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Speaker 1: love could work. I'll just get a knife and gouge

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Speaker 1: your eyes out. But I want you to be blind

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Speaker 1: because then you couldn't see me. So I guess I'll

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Speaker 1: just have to work out out of gym real hard

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Speaker 1: and buy a bikini. Oh, by a bikini. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: dark in the closet with the lights out. Oh We're

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Speaker 1: a thumb. Thank you?

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Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna leave it there.

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Speaker 4: The book is not dead yet.

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Speaker 3: A lifetime of handstands, art and poetry. Victoria Jackson, thank

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Speaker 3: you for coming on the show.

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Speaker 1: Becket, thank you so much. I want to hear more

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Speaker 1: about your Hollywood stories.

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Speaker 3: We'll do that next time. We'll do another episode A stand.

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Speaker 1: Up do a stand up back, start working on it

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 4: I will, I will, I might do that, I might

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Speaker 4: start all right, well, thank you for coming on, and

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Speaker 4: we're gonna we're gonna go to commercial now a commercial break.

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Speaker 2: website at Beckettcook dot com.

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