1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Hey, friend Heather Creek Moore here, thanks for listening to 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: the Compared to your podcast, today's episode is fascinating because 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: my friend, doctor Brooke Shehan is here to talk to 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: us about listening to our bodies. Now to some of you, 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: that might sound a little woo woo, or you may 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: think I can't listen to my body, I can't trust 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: my body. And doctor Brooke is gonna address all of 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: those things, all those concerns, all those thoughts and worries, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: and she does it o man with a love for Jesus, 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,639 Speaker 2: with a background in studying scripture. So I think you're 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: really gonna love what she has to say. Hey, are 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: you waiting for weight loss? 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know there may have been some confusing messages 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: on the show over the years, but I want you 17 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: to hear this clearly from me. Now, if you hold 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: a desire for weight loss, you're not alone. In fact, 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: you probably be abnormal not to hold that desire in 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 2: a culture where we see everyone around us shrinking. But 21 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: we've designed something special for you for Lent this year. 22 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 2: So if you don't plans for Lent, now you do, 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to do a whole series on the podcast 24 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 2: extra episodes every week and through the season of Lent, 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: we're going to walk through something we're calling Waiting for 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: Weight Loss. Now, you might be thinking, why do this 27 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: through Lent. That doesn't sound like a very Lenten thing 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: to do. Aren't we preparing our hearts for Easter? And 29 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: you're right, But here's the deal. We're launching this series 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: during Lent because this is the season for us to 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: evaluate what do our hearts love the most? What am 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: I really living for? And longing for Lent propels us 33 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: to examine what's driving our lives. And so starting next Tuesday, 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: we're going to open a brand new free community called 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: Waiting for Weight Loss and that will accompany this new 36 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: podcast series. 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Can't wait to connect with you in 44 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: that community and to hear how this journey helps you. 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: Now let's get to today, doctor Brookshihan, thank you so 46 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: much for being on the Compared to You podcast today. 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: Father, I'm so excited. It's gonna be so much fun. 48 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: It is, and I would love for us to start 49 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: with your story because you have so much, like just 50 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 2: a wealth of information to share with us today about 51 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: listening to our bodies and maybe how we've gotten whacked 52 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: out on that front through things we've done or tried 53 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: or heard. But I know that you don't come to 54 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: the work that you do just based on like internet research. 55 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: I know you have a story. So doctor Brook, will 56 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: you start us off just telling us kind of where 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: you've been and what your story is. 58 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Heather, I will not stay so much 59 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: in the weeds. It is a beautiful story, a redemptive 60 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: story of a journey God took me through. And you 61 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: are absolutely right the body of work that I do 62 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: did not just come from internet searches, but through a 63 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: lived experience, and so just taking you back, I'm forty 64 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: one years old and in my early childhood days we 65 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: lived in a very conventional medical model as a family. 66 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: And when I say that, I mean tylanol, aspirin, aches 67 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: in the body, headaches, stomach issues, peptobismal, antibiotics for infections, 68 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: those kind of things. Nothing is wrong with that. Nothing 69 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: is wrong with that. I just want to be very 70 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: very clear. However, there was no real understanding of what 71 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 3: was going on in my body and understanding why am 72 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: I getting these headaches, Why am I getting chronic air infections? 73 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: Why am I always having gut issues? Like it was 74 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: just hurry up and covered up with a pill. So 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: fast forward a bunch of years. I'm twenty six years old. 76 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: I get pregnant with my daughter, and I started to 77 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: really recognize, oh my gosh, I need to start doing 78 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: things different for my health. And this actually started as 79 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: a result of I guess I should take it one 80 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 3: step backwards. Is at two years old, I was diagnosed 81 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: with cerebral palsy. So cerebral palsy is not a congenit 82 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: genital disorder, meaning it wasn't something that was forming in 83 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: the womb when I was in my mama's womb. It 84 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: was something that happened as a result of a traumatic 85 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: childbirth experience. 86 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: So I started to lose oxygen. 87 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: Doctors came in rushed in, put my mom on oxygen 88 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: as I came through the process, and here's her healthy baby. 89 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 3: She didn't notice anything until I was two years old. 90 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 3: I was walking, seeing things on my walking on my 91 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: tippy toes. I was doing it only on my right 92 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 3: side of my body. So the cerebral palsy does affect 93 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 3: the right side of my body. Thank the Lord that 94 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: those doctors recognize that something was happening, because it does 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: only affect five percent of my body versus I have 96 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 3: experience and witnessed a lot of people with cerebral palsy 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: who have no control of their limbs. They're up close 98 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: to their face, curled up in wheelchairs, can't speak. It 99 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 3: is not because and I want to be very clear 100 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 3: here for a lot of people who do not understand 101 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 3: this diagnosis, cerebral palsy is not a mental disorder. It 102 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 3: is a gross must soul like gross motor muscle disorder. 103 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: So these people understand what you are saying. They're not 104 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 3: three years old in their mind. If they are grown adults, 105 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: they understand what you're saying. They just cannot use their tongue. 106 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: The tongue is a major major muscle of the body. 107 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: All that being said, so fast forward. When I got pregnant, 108 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: I was like, I do not want this to be 109 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 3: my daughter's journey. Like I'm going to do everything and 110 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: everything to try to control the outcome of what my 111 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: delivery looks like. Right, and we know you cannot control 112 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 3: every aspect. We can try, we can say this is 113 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: what we want it to look like, but there are 114 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: variables outside of our control with everything in life, not 115 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: just childbirth. 116 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: But thankfully, by the grace. 117 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: Of God, I was able to have that birth that 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 3: I was looking for, natural birth, was able to deliver 119 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: her with no issues. But a lot of this came 120 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: because I was doing all these different things. 121 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: Now. 122 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: I was trying to control all these pieces, and I 123 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: was like, I got to start eating better, I gotta 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: get out of drive throughs, I got to take these supplements, 125 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 3: I got to get adjusted. This many times it was 126 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 3: like really obsessive control what God showed me. And I'll 127 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 3: get into that part of the story in just a second. 128 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: But I went from one end of the spectrum having 129 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: so much disconnect with my body to the opposite end 130 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 3: of the spectrum where I was idolizing it. It became 131 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: my worship and I became the girl who would stand 132 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: on soapboxes, metaphoric soapboxes, screaming at my family for putting 133 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: plastic in the microwave or eating you know, regular dairy, 134 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 3: for having non convegetable, non conventional vegetables, all these things. 135 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I was a nutcase like these poor people, Oh, 136 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: you need to take this, you need to take that, 137 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: you need to do this right. And so through all 138 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 3: of this I found a new passion. I left the 139 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: accounting world and. 140 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: That was what I went to school for, okay. 141 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Just accounting. Left the accounting world and dove into chiropractic. 142 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I want to become a chiropractor. 143 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: Chiropractors are all about natural health. I want to do this. 144 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: This is going to be incredible, amazing, all of that 145 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: right now. Of course, there was a lot of internal 146 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: self talk, like you have cerebral palsy, how are you 147 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: going to do this again? By the grace of God, 148 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: obviously I'm a chiropractor to today and it's been amazing, 149 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: but I need to like talk about another part of 150 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: the story is in chiropractice. So I've been very blessed, 151 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: and I do not say this. I did carry a 152 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 3: lot of pride about this for a very very long time. 153 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: But I never struggled with weight growing up was very 154 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: very small. What everybody kind of would try to achieve. 155 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: I didn't have to work towards I could eat what 156 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: I want, do what I do without having tory about it. 157 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: I went to chiropractic school. 158 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 3: I was eating dairy free, gluten free, organic, all the things, 159 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: everything that I learned prior to even going to chiropractical school. 160 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: And I gained forty pounds okay, and that was more 161 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: pounds than I put on when I had my daughter. 162 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: After I had her, I was like back to my 163 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: prepregnancy weight like within three weeks. So there again, Yes, 164 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: there was a sense of pride underlying pride like what 165 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: is your guys issue? I don't understand? Like why can't 166 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: you what's the issue? Right without speaking it out loud, 167 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: So like I go to chiropractic school, I gain all 168 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: this weight and it's not coming off. Whether it was 169 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 3: not coming off, it was not just this quick easy wow, 170 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 3: it's just dropping. 171 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: No no, no no. 172 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: Then my obsessive idolization took it to extreme level. Now 173 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 3: I was waking up at five am doing two workouts 174 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: a day, eating raw food. 175 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: I was trying the keto diet. I was trying the 176 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: paleo diet. 177 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: Like back in the time carnivore did even really, Yes, 178 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: of course we ate meat, but carnivore diet as a 179 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: whole didn't exist. But I was trying everything and everything 180 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 3: and nothing was budging. And I was hating myself, and 181 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: I was forcing my body into these clothes that. 182 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Did not fit me like well, so I'd be wearing. 183 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: Sweatshirts and things like that to try to make myself 184 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: semi look normal. I came back, I graduated a chiropractic school, 185 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 3: came back to San Diego, and started working with a 186 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 3: doctor in practice. And this is where I started to 187 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: understand a little bit more about the body speaking and 188 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: understanding that the body. 189 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: Has so much wisdom. 190 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 3: Yes, that's a big chiropractic philosophy, that the body is 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 3: so wise. 192 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: We know God gave us that wisdom within our bodies. 193 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: We know that. 194 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: But I started to understand, like, oh, my gosh, if 195 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: I do things the way that my body wants them 196 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: versus what the external gurus outside of us are saying 197 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 3: to do. Because I was trying all of that and 198 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: none of that was working. And so finally that was 199 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: like a two year journey of getting to the point 200 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 3: of going, Okay, I'm going to do what you want 201 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: me to do. Body, I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to you. 202 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: And so every single morning I started to wake up 203 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: before going into the office and I'm like, Okay, what 204 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 3: are we going to do? Are we going to go 205 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: for a walk? Are we going to do some body 206 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: weight exercises? Are we going to drink coffee? Or are 207 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: we going to drink tea? And I really started to 208 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: just ask very simple questions of myself, like of my body, 209 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 3: and go, okay, what are we going to do? And yes, 210 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: it took two years, two more years, So I mean 211 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: I was in this wait for almost four years, but 212 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: it came off. And I just look at that whole 213 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 3: entire journey that I had to take and go, Okay, 214 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: it's not just about eating rite and doing all the things. 215 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: You know, there could be underlying things. And this is 216 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: something I talk about with my community. My patience is 217 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: it's not just physical when things happen, it's spiritual, emotional, 218 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: and mental. And there were so many things that I 219 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: had to, like work through like these limiting beliefs and 220 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: these these prideful behaviors that led me into this situation anyway, 221 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: and so any yes, long long winded story, but God 222 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: took me on a really beautiful journey. 223 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 2: I love it. Thanks so much for sharing that. I 224 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: think probably every listener is like, wait, so how did 225 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: you lose the weight? I guess I am wondering, like 226 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: my philosophy necessarily, but like my theory would be that 227 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: you were able to drop the weight because you were 228 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: less stressed or like, did you have any I don't 229 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: know science terms to put behind that. 230 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 3: So here's the thing is, I yes, I left chiropractical school, 231 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: so the idea of grad school being less stressful absolutely, 232 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: But now I was in practice, like straight into practice 233 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: and like building a practice. So it was just different 234 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: kinds of stresses. It wasn't okay, I got an exam 235 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: at nine point thirty in the morning. It's like, oh, 236 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: we got to prepare for this patient who's got these 237 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: really complex situation going on. We need to do research, 238 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 3: study all the things, right, So the stress was still there. 239 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: I think really the biggest shift for me, and there 240 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 3: is a lot of science to this and I'll all 241 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 3: talk about some of these concepts. Is I got myself mentally, 242 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: and this is what we do as a society. 243 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: And you know this. 244 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: We talked about diet culture even when you were on 245 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 3: my show, and this whole notion of trying to follow 246 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: other people's advice for our bodies. So somebody says, eating 247 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: the carnivore diet, you're going to drop fifty pounds. But 248 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: you start eating the carnivore diet and you have no 249 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: balve movements anymore, You're constipated, there's too much fat coming in, 250 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: you're six to your stomach, maybe losing hair, all these things, 251 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: and you're like, well, this is not working. So then 252 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: you switch and you try something else what I did, 253 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: and I can break. 254 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: Down this concept. 255 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: I mean, it's very simple, and I think that sometimes 256 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 3: the simplicity of things gets people to the point where 257 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 3: they don't want to do it. They kind of throw 258 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 3: their hands up and they're like, that sounds too simple 259 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: for my complex issues, So I'm not going to put 260 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: it into action. I want to share some biblical principles 261 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 3: here in the book tewod King's chapter five, there is 262 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: a Syrian officer. I mean, this guy is in the military, 263 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: like he is well known within the Syrian government. He's 264 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: got leprosy, and that at that time is not a 265 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: good thing to have name in. This guy that I'm 266 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: talking about, here's about a healer in Israel, and he says, 267 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm going to take Jack Joe, his 268 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: whole entire staff He's going to take with him to 269 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: Israel to go see the healer. The healer doesn't even 270 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: come to the door. He sends his servant and says, 271 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 3: go tell him. And the healer was Elisha, Go tell 272 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 3: him to jump in the dirty Jordan River, the nasty 273 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: Jordan River. 274 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: He's tried everything, He's done it all, all the things. 275 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: He like, are you kidding me? 276 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: Goes and jumps in that Jordan seven times, just as 277 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: he was instructed, and that leprosy was gone. That is 278 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. Sometimes we overcomplicate things when it 279 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: can be so easy. We just need to follow that 280 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: the direction. The problem is is we've learned to not 281 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: trust ourselves. We've learned to not listen to what our 282 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: body is signaling to us. We've learned to shut everything 283 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: up because we've been either taught to take pills, to 284 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: cover up headaches or stomach pains or whatever. Or we've 285 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: were listening to so many people. So here's the easy concept. 286 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 3: This is what I was doing this or that every 287 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: single morning. I always drink coffee the whole entire time 288 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: I was in grad school. Now, of course coffee if 289 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 3: I'm drinking that, I wasn't drinking it all day, but 290 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: I was drinking a lot of it, Okay, so that 291 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 3: can obviously cause issues to my system for sure. However, 292 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: every single morning when I woke up, once I got 293 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: out of school, coffee or lemon water or coffee or tea, 294 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: I would always keep the same variable the this. 295 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: I call it this or that. Okay, this or that. 296 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: So my this was the coffee, My that was something different. 297 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: And I would just stand there, and I don't mean 298 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: to go quiet, but I would stand there for a 299 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: moment in quiet, for like ten seconds, and I would 300 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: feel into my body. See a lot of times we 301 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 3: are so out of tune with like what our body 302 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: has to say. We can't even feel certain things. So 303 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, feel into your chest, Like do you 304 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: feel opening in your body when you say tea, when 305 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: you say lemon water, when you say X, Y, and 306 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: Z versus what you normally do or do you feel 307 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: tightness and constricting, Okay, then go and have the coffee 308 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: if whatever you feel right. So it's it's not a 309 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: matter of trying to get everything right every day. 310 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: There were sometimes I. 311 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: Made the wrong choice, but it's still like my body's like, Okay, 312 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: she's starting to honor me, and I'm starting to trust her, 313 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: and we're bill a trust relationship and I talk about it. 314 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: It takes time, Heather, you and I have gotten a 315 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: chance to know each other over the last couple of months, 316 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: just seeing little glimpses of each other on social media 317 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: and like you spending time on my show and having 318 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 3: that conversation. But I can't say if somebody was to 319 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: be like, hey, what would Heather love for lunch? I 320 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't know what your favorite food is yet we haven't 321 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: built that kind of relationship. When you build a relationship 322 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: with a spouse, significant other, a new friend, a coworker, 323 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: these relationships get built over time. The relationship with our 324 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 3: body gets built up over time. So you practice this 325 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 3: or that multiple times throughout the day, this relationship is 326 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: going to form and you will get the results. 327 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: You're looking for. 328 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: Okay, I love I love that, and I'm just thinking, okay, 329 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 2: two people, there's two camps of people. Well there's more 330 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: than two camps. But I know my listeners. And there's 331 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: someone saying that sounds new age? Does Heather have a 332 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: new age person on? Like listening to my body? I'm 333 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: just in the Holy Spirit, not my body. Like that 334 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: sounds weird. So someone saying that, actually, let's just do 335 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: that one first, tackle that one first, and then I'll 336 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: bring you. 337 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I love this one because I am a 338 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: full on Christ follower. I love Jesus. I'm all about scripture. 339 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: I live my life by scripture. Here's the thing, New Testament, Paul, 340 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 3: we always hear, crucify your flesh, do not give into 341 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 3: your flesh. 342 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: Do not listen to it. It is wicked, it is evil. 343 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: All the things right. 344 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: However, there are also moments parts in scripture where Paul 345 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: uses the word soma. So you have to understand, we're 346 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 3: gonna pull this all the way back and not use 347 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 3: English because English sometimes those words in Greek get translated incorrectly. 348 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 3: So when we read our New King James version or 349 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: New Living translation or whatever translation you like, words don't 350 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 3: match up. So the sark in Greek is the flesh. Yes, 351 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: we absolutely crucify our sark. But when God made the body, 352 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: he made the body good. That word soma when we 353 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 3: and even in Corinthians when Paul's talking about the body, 354 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: you know some person is the eye. And yes we're 355 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 3: talking about the body of Christ. But the different functionalities 356 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: of different pieces, right, but he does use the term 357 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: like we need to honor our bodies like our present 358 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: our bodies as living sacrifices. That being said, when I 359 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: say listen to your body. Holy spirit is the boss. 360 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 3: So if you feel like you're not getting information from 361 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 3: your body, you go to the boss. You take it 362 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: to the boss. So like me, I can ask Heather 363 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: questions and maybe get some guidance from Heather. But then 364 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: if I'm not feeling like I'm getting proper counsel or 365 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: not even proper counsel, or like maybe I'm just like 366 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: Gosh that like doesn't really resonate with me or my 367 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: spirit's not I'm to take it to the boss. 368 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: Always right, We're commanded. 369 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 3: To test the spirit. So it's not about new age 370 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: by any means. This is truly God created our bodies 371 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: with so much wisdom, He created with so much life. 372 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 3: It's a masterpiece. It's not intended to be hacked, and 373 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: so we have to understand that. But if you are 374 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: doing consistently, you are like die hard. 375 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: I'm in the Keto diet right now. This is all 376 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm eating. 377 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 3: And you're in the grocery store and you're walking and 378 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: you realize, like you just feel this really strong craving 379 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: towards grapes. Given to that craving because that's your body 380 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: seeking something that those grapes have that can actually be 381 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: beneficial to your body in that moment. Let's get out 382 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 3: of the rigidity of trying to do things to a 383 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: certain way while dismissing what our body is asking for. 384 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 3: It's like we're just muzzling it and telling it to 385 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 3: shut up every time we go against what it's asking for. 386 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: And then building. 387 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: Back that those trusts that nols too, those hunger cues 388 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: that we dismiss if we're not eating or we're practicing 389 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 3: super restrictive eating and things like that. I guess I'm 390 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: talking more on a grander scale on sometimes like people go, Okay, well, 391 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm craving a grape, but I'm going to dismiss the 392 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: grape because I'm eating keto and they they give in 393 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: to other things. I mean, our flesh will try to 394 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 3: do a lot of other things. And we could take 395 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: this outside of food even too, with doomsday scrolling. We 396 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: got things to do and we're just stuck on our phone, 397 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: like that's our flesh and action versus like, oh, let 398 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: me take a prayer walk with good right. 399 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so I'm kind of thinking like related to that, 400 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: like the other I think pushback, right, it's going to 401 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: be well, I just don't hear my body or my 402 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: body only tells me I want to Reno's. So my 403 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: body is broken and I can't listen to it. 404 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: I can't try. 405 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 3: I don't. 406 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: No, I shouldn't need grapes, Like, how do how do 407 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,120 Speaker 2: we go from there? 408 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: Yes? 409 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: Yes, well no, don't don't get stuck in that feeling either, 410 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: because that's shame and that's guilt, and that's and that's 411 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 3: going to perpetuate the issue I mentioned earlier. It's beyond physical, right, 412 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: it's spiritual, it's emotional, it's mental. So there are a 413 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: lot of other components than just your quote unquote flesh 414 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 3: and action. If you're wanting Dorito's like it could be 415 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 3: if you are soothing yourself emotionally and that is something 416 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: your body is seeking because it's like, okay, there's something 417 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 3: emotional going on. 418 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: Okay, wait pause one second, I think we agree on this. 419 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: Is that always bad? No? Good? Okay, we agree? Good? 420 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Can you say more so? 421 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: And it might be emotional that you want those it's 422 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 3: not bad to to want those things if that's emotionally 423 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: what you're being driven towards. So you have to not 424 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 3: look at something as necessarily black or white all the time. Okay, 425 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: they're biblical. There's truth and there's not truth. Right, we 426 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: know that there's black and white. Certain things with our 427 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: bodies and taking care of ourselves and stewarding our health 428 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 3: well is not black and white. We have to really 429 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: recognize that there are other pieces beyond just the physical 430 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: feeling of what's going on in our bodies. And so 431 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: breaking down coming back to maybe the original question too, 432 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 3: is people not feeling like they can hear from their 433 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 3: body or that they don't have this, they don't understand 434 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: what it's saying. They've tuned it out for so long, 435 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: they've listened to other advice because we do live in 436 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: a culture that's very loud. It's telling you you're not 437 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: doing enough. I mean, you can simply turn on other podcasts, 438 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 3: not Heather's not mine, but you could turn on other 439 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 3: podcasts and they're going to be like, you need these 440 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 3: six supplements for this, you need this for this and 441 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: this for that. Right, and you're constantly feeling like you're lacking, 442 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: you are horrible, You're not doing enough. 443 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: This is not what it's about. 444 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: It's truly about really learning to connect with yourself, just 445 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: like you do with the Holy Spirit. You build a 446 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 3: relationship being able to hear the Holy Spirit's voice the 447 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 3: more you spend time. And sometimes that's just reading the 448 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: word of God. Sometimes it's just waking up in the 449 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 3: morning and putting your hand to your chest and saying, 450 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 3: thank you body for doing all that you did last 451 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: night to keep me alive. Right, it's starting to just 452 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 3: have a sense of gratitude. There's so much science about 453 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 3: gratitude and really walking in gratitude that can shift physically, spiritually, emotionally, 454 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: and mentally right and being okay with non perfection if 455 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: you don't do it perfectly, that is okay. It's about 456 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: taking small steps and taking small steps and taking another 457 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: small step and keep going until these steps build up 458 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 3: and you look back. 459 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: And you're like, man, I'm a mile down the road. 460 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 3: This is amazing, right that maybe once, yeah, you came 461 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: back and you were you started eating again, and you 462 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 3: were not having good or bad food. 463 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: You were just. 464 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: Eating right, allowing yourself to have the hunger cues. And 465 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: then all of a sudden one day you're like, WHOA, 466 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 3: I don't even feel like I want that anymore. 467 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: I want this. That is progress. 468 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: That's amazing progress you should applaud yourself for because you're 469 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: starting to tune into those signals. 470 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, I love that. Yeah. 471 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: In my In My Forty Day Body minshric book, I 472 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 2: talk about living in not the gray, but living in 473 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: the grace. I love that because that's really where we're 474 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 2: supposed to live. And I think so many times we 475 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: get this idea that there are like or that everyone 476 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: else is doing it perfectly. Yeah, like I'm the only 477 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: one who can't eat perfectly and exercise perfectly. Everyone else 478 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: has somehow figured this out and I just I don't 479 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: have the will power or the strength or whatever. And 480 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 2: it's like it's just not true. Like, no one's perfect. 481 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: No one is doing this perfectly right, but kind of 482 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: like you said, like all of our bodies are different, 483 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: so she could be doing those things not perfectly and 484 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: getting a certain result, while you're doing those same things 485 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: and not getting a certain result because we're so different. 486 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 2: I'm thinking back to uh no, it's probably ten fifteen 487 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: years ago. My doctor wanted to solve a couple of 488 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 2: things going on with me, and she was like, we're 489 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: going to pitch you on this vegan cleanse and it 490 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 2: was like it was like a twenty one day program 491 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: and then she like added another like seven day program 492 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: and so like I spent a month being vegan and 493 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: I literally like was tempted to start chewing on my 494 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: thumb like it was. It was that like dramatic for me. 495 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and she. 496 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 2: Got my blood work back after this month of veganness 497 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: was supposed to solve all the things, and she was like, man, 498 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: everything got worse. You must really need meat. And I 499 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I could have told you, Like I 500 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: could have told you that, but you know, like she's 501 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: a trusted authority and this is what the protocol that 502 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: she follows for you people that had like whatever I 503 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: was dealing with at the time, and so it is. 504 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: It's so true. We've been taught that we can't be trusted, right, 505 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: like the women I talk to you and I'm sure 506 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 2: you're talking to having similar conversations, like we've been taught 507 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 2: like don't trust your body, like you got to trust 508 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: like this this and this and this is what the 509 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 2: science says, and this worked for her, and you know 510 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 2: this worked for him, And so it does feel really 511 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: foreign to think about like relaxing the reins and maybe 512 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 2: even tuning out all the things and trusting. Like what's 513 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: the first step there, doctor Brooke. 514 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: The first step, honestly, is to. 515 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 3: Recognize that it does take time, so it's not an 516 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 3: overnight process, Like this is not something you're learning a 517 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: new skill. 518 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: So just like you would. 519 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 3: Learn how to I have a car, right, you had 520 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: to sit with somebody in the car, driving around, doing 521 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: all the things, taking the test, all the stuff. 522 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: It takes time. 523 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 3: And then as you've gotten your driver's license for a 524 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: long time, now you get in the car. You can 525 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 3: be eating a snack, putting mascara on while you're not 526 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: saying you should be doing that, but you can't. 527 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 2: Not advocating for that. 528 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 3: But but your skill has gotten so good that you're 529 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: able to do all these things right, you don't even 530 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: think about it, And so it takes time building that relationship, 531 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: allowing yourself to just again practicing the gratitude, waking up 532 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: having the maybe every single morning you wake up you 533 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 3: go like I was, like I was sharing with my 534 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: story this or that. 535 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: If you wake up every morning and you. 536 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: Always have tea, then then switch that tea to something else, 537 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 3: shift it up a little bit. What I what I 538 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: really advocate a lot for is people understanding that less 539 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: is actually more when we try to do these insane 540 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 3: type of workouts, when we're trying to do these insane 541 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: type of dietary guidelines. You might be doing a workout 542 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: with your trainer that you've started for the new year 543 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: and feeling like, man, this is getting a lot. My 544 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: body is really aching now, I'm having hip pain that 545 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: I didn't have before because. 546 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm doing all this stuff. 547 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: Understand that is your body telling you something that's not 548 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: something to push through. And I always tell people your 549 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 3: body will always win. So if we dis miss signals, 550 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 3: it's saying to us if we just like oh la la, 551 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: la la la. Cover our years, pretend we don't hear it. 552 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: With the hit pain or the knee or joints or 553 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 3: things like that. The body will eventually win, and eventually 554 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: you'll come to a point where just like man, I 555 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: can't get I can't get these workouts, I'm not getting 556 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 3: any results. I like all the things, and it's just 557 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: like less is more. So give yourself the moment to go, Okay, 558 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna walk for ten minutes. I'm gonna be 559 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: okay with walking for ten minutes because just like Name 560 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 3: and I had to do, he had to jump into 561 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: a dirty river. It was so simple yet so profound. 562 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: Those ten minutes can be so profound to your day 563 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: to day. So it takes time, but build that relationship. 564 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm gonna feel like I'm doing commercial for 565 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: a sponsored product here, But I got an or ring 566 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 2: for Christmas, okay, and I've been an Apple Watch where forever. 567 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: You know. 568 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: Apple Watch, I think is really good at shaming us, 569 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: like dude, you know, didn't close your rings and really 570 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna sit there for that long? And the R 571 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: ring is very different. And I bought it because well 572 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: I got it for Christmas. Because I wanted to know 573 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: what was going on with my sleep and I can't 574 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: sleep with my watch. And I've got a family member 575 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 2: who's all about his r ring and he's like, this 576 00:30:54,400 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: is what you need. And I love it because it 577 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: tracks rest and relaxation and how restored you are or 578 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: how stressed you are through the day. And what I 579 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: am learning from my ring is very different than what 580 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: I learned from my watch because my ring, like one 581 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,959 Speaker 2: morning a few weeks ago, I was actually sick and 582 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: my ring was like, we're turning off all your calorie counting, 583 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: step counting. We're turning it all off. You need to 584 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: rest today, And I was like, oh, yay, okay, thank you, 585 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: and I felt like doctor Brooke. I was like, this 586 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: is seriously ridiculous. Like I know I don't feel well, 587 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: but because the aura ring told me I didn't feel 588 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: well and I can rest today, then I feel like 589 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: I can rest. But even though I know I don't 590 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: feel well, I probably still would have been like looking 591 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: at the Apple Watch, like, oh, I should probably try 592 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: to close those rings. You know, maybe I feel better 593 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: than I think I feel right. And so there's been that, 594 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: But then there's also to your lessons. More point, I'm 595 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: recognizing from Aura that my daily life sometimes is enough 596 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: stress for my day, and like candidly enough, like not 597 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: that I'm tracking calorie burne or like really trying to 598 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: do anything intentional there, but that's just one of the 599 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 2: things it has and I know that could be triggering 600 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: for some of my listeners, so please please don't be 601 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: triggered in all of that. But but what I'm recognizing 602 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: is what it expects of me activity wise. I can 603 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: meet some days without exercising for a minute, and that's 604 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 2: kind of shocking because it's like, you know, that is 605 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: I think a popular concept now that women have been 606 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 2: working out too hard or you know, we haven't given 607 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: ourselves enough rest days, rest times. But that's really hard 608 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: for someone like so I'm fifty one years old, like 609 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: you know, nineteen eighties aerobics, cardio, like that's what I 610 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 2: was born in to and to think about like taking 611 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 2: days off, that's like, well, that's the surefire way to 612 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: gain weight, is what we learned, what we internalized, And honestly, 613 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: the Aura ring is telling me like, nope, you did 614 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: enough yesterday. You need to take today off. And then 615 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: the next day it'd be like, hey, you did a 616 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: pretty good job. You could probably handle you know, some 617 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 2: more activity today and it's amazing. And my body would 618 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: tell me all of that, right, But I think that's 619 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 2: kind of what you're saying, right, we need to maybe 620 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: just dial it back a bit, right. 621 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, And I think it's so beautiful the way 622 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 3: you've said that is, Yes, I had the Apple Watch 623 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: for a while and I would close the rings. You know, 624 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 3: you get all your standing time and get all your 625 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: movement and get all. 626 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: And it's just like, oh my gosh. 627 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: You know, it'd be like ten o'clock at night and 628 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, Okay, I need to like 629 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 3: walk around, get some extra steps in so I could 630 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: get this ring close, like you said, And it's just 631 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: like it becomes obsessed behavior. 632 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: And we slowly move over out. 633 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 3: Of that period of grace that Heather said, it's not 634 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: black and white, it's grace. We slowly move over to 635 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 3: this idolization. We get into that. Okay, while we got 636 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 3: to do X, Y and Z, and I think it's 637 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 3: so beautiful you said up. 638 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: One of the things I want to share. 639 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: Is, so this is a signal, and this is an 640 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: easy one and so this is why I'm going to 641 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 3: share this is because people, every single human on earth 642 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: does this and we dismiss it. And this is the 643 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 3: body signal of sneezing. Now, I'm not talking sneezing. When 644 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: you sneeze and your eyes start watering, you your you know, 645 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: starts stripping, that's allergies. 646 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: Right. 647 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: We can say, oh gosh, there's a lot of pollen 648 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: in the air, I'm sneezing, or I dust in my house. 649 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: Now I'm talking random trips to the grocery store. You're 650 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: standing in your kitchen, kids doing something whatever, and all 651 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 3: of a sudden, you but you, right, what did we do? 652 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: We say, God, bless you, God bless you, and we 653 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 3: move on that. Right there is your body telling you, 654 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 3: point blank, hey, my immune system is kicking up for battle. 655 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 3: This might be the time to cut all sugar for 656 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: let's say a day and a half. 657 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: Now. 658 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 3: The reason I say like a day and a half 659 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: is let's say it's like two o'clock in the afternoon 660 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 3: and you start sneezing. Cut the sugar immediately. That the 661 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 3: rest of that day and into the next day. If 662 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 3: you are always drinking sixty ounces of water, maybe this 663 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 3: is the time you drink sixty seven sixty eight ounces. 664 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 3: You don't have to drown yourself in fluid. That's not 665 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I'm just saying, drink a few extra 666 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: ounces of water, and this is also the time to 667 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 3: get adequate rest. So not burning the candle out both ends. 668 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: It's not trying to push yourself past your bed time 669 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: because your kids are in bed and you're trying to 670 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 3: work on your side project or any of that. It's going, Okay, 671 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: my body's telling me something. I'm going to listen. I 672 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 3: said it earlier in the thing in the in the episode. 673 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: If you try to push past your body, your body 674 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: will always win. So when you have that hip pain 675 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 3: for working out too much, eventually you're going to have issues. 676 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to be dark or upsetting to 677 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 3: some people. What I'm saying, though, is when you sneeze 678 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 3: like that and you don't adhere to what is being spoken, 679 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: what is being said by the body in that instance 680 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 3: is your body's gonna win. You're gonna push burn the 681 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 3: candle at both ends. You're gonna do the thing in 682 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: a day, two days, whatever. Again, I'm not trying to 683 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 3: put this on anybody, but you will end up going man, 684 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: I got the chills, I got a fever, I got 685 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: a cold coming up, Like you just feel icky. So 686 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying, hey, listen to that signal. 687 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there was another one you were gonna share. 688 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 3: The other one was dry skin. So I think a 689 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 3: lot of us as women, we get caught up to 690 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 3: in the beauty industry with all the lotions and potions 691 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 3: and pills and things like that. If you are using 692 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 3: lotion and you cannot get your like you're using lotion, 693 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 3: you're using more lotion, and you're noticing your skin is 694 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 3: super super dry still and you can't figure out like, man, 695 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 3: I'm drinking fluid, I'm doing all the stuff that I 696 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: would normally do. That is actually a sign of burnout 697 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 3: because what is happening so our lungs require. 698 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: A lot of moisture to work. 699 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 3: So when the lungs when we're going in burnout status, 700 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 3: when we're burning the candle at both ends, work and 701 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 3: work and work in what are we doing. We're shallow breathing, 702 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 3: we're not taking deep breast. We have cortisol jumping through 703 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 3: the system. Cortisol being the stress hormone for those who 704 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: might not know, but jumping at high levels through the system, 705 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 3: those lungs are extracting moisture from your skin in order 706 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 3: to function, in order to get the respiratory breasts, it 707 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 3: needs to move oxygen through the rest of the body. 708 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 3: So that's just simply being mindful and going okay, like, 709 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 3: maybe I just need to take a couple deep breasts 710 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 3: throughout my day because how many times do we actually 711 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: really consider how we're breathing? Yeah, and the quality of 712 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 3: the breasts we're. 713 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: Taking, right, Yeah, that's really interesting and I know I've 714 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 2: seen some studies and wanted to kind of pursue this 715 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 2: that Yeah, with fybroid issues are shallow breathers. H Yes, 716 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 2: I always feel that fascinating. 717 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: Yep. 718 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 719 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 720 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 3: So the body, the body does speak to us, and 721 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 3: it's not about understanding Like, of course, as a doctor, 722 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 3: I understand the nuances and the physiology and all the things. 723 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: It's not about necessarily having to. 724 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 3: Understand all that, but really again building the relationship and 725 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 3: just trusting it's its signals. I feel like Heather used 726 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: as a brilliant her story the veganism. 727 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: She's like, I'm. 728 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: Literally gonna chomp off my thumb. Her body was like 729 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 3: giving me, giving me. It was like almost wanting to 730 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 3: like eat itself, Like not really, but in a way, 731 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,439 Speaker 3: you know, it's just like, really, if you're getting these 732 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 3: really strong cravings towards something, what. 733 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying is, don't dismiss things that are that are happening. 734 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 3: If if you have an ache in your hip, maybe 735 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: not necessarily always having to try to figure out what 736 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 3: everything means in your body, like obsessing about that too, 737 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 3: because we can easily fall into the obsession of. 738 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: Oh, well what does that mean? 739 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, but no, it's just going, okay, wow, yeah, 740 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 3: I am having some hit pain. Was I sitting wrong 741 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 3: in my desk chair at work? Did I sleep really weird? 742 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: Like you can just. 743 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 3: Start to kind of ponder these questions, but it's not 744 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 3: about necessarily having a resolution right away. Of course, the 745 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 3: sneezing and the dry skin, that's something you can start 746 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 3: to resolve almost immediately, right But some of these do 747 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 3: take a little bit of time, and it's just going, Okay, 748 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 3: thank you body for notifying me that there's something going on. 749 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh that's really great. Thank you so much, 750 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 2: doctor Brook. This has been super helpful. Tell everyone where 751 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: they can listen to your show and where they can 752 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 2: connect with you. 753 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely so everything is on my Instagram all my 754 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: links for my podcasts, and I do have a body 755 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 3: signal decoder for like the top eight different body signals 756 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 3: chronic migraines or stress signals that they can pick whatever 757 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: their top one is and figure out how to work 758 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 3: through that through all four pillars physical, spiritual, emotional, and mental, 759 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 3: because signals are not just physical, like I mentioned, and 760 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 3: that is that doctor Brooke shehn so and no E 761 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 3: at the end of my name, that that is one. 762 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: Tricky part for some people. So it's just bro okay. 763 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: And I will put the link to that in show 764 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: notes so everyone can find you easy and not have 765 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 2: to remember anything. 766 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: Yes, I hear you. 767 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: Well. Thank you so much doctor Brook for being on 768 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: the podcast today. 769 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: Thank you hother It's been so much fun, and thank. 770 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 2: You for watching or listening. I hope something today has 771 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 2: helped you stop comparing and started living. Bye, buddy, they 772 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 2: compared to podcast. It's proud to be part of the 773 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 2: Life Audio podcast Network. For a more great Christian podcasts, 774 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 2: go to life audio dot com.