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Speaker 3: All right, welcome everybody. In's August eighteen, twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: We're here at the yre FI Studios in Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 3: It's great to be with all of you. Had a busy,
Speaker 3: busy morning and excited to get into the news here.
Speaker 2: Blake, how we doing. We're doing good.
Speaker 4: We're doing good even though the world seems insane. Right
Speaker 4: So in this center.
Speaker 3: That is the lead today that the world feels upside
Speaker 3: down in so many different ways, and we're going to
Speaker 3: get into it in this first hour, in multiple different
Speaker 3: from multiple different vantage points. What we're seeing with the
Speaker 3: Lindsay Clancy story is probably exhibit A. We talked about
Speaker 3: that yesterday. Of course, Lindsay Clancy is the woman that
Speaker 3: is not even accused. She's admitted that she strangled her
Speaker 3: three children, and yet the Internet is awash with people
Speaker 3: defending her, sympathizing with her, raising money for her. It's
Speaker 3: about a million bucks now on this gofund me, which
Speaker 3: is just it's a whole other story. But there is
Speaker 3: another example that is coming out from the UK, and
Speaker 3: it's something.
Speaker 4: We talked about, yeah, briefly last week. We wanted to
Speaker 4: talk about it more. We had Chris rufo On and
Speaker 4: we asked him a bit and it was the case
Speaker 4: of Cambridge professor Jason Ardey, And so our day was
Speaker 4: an education professor who started to get a lot of attention.
Speaker 4: Late July, a blogger Nathan Kaufnis wrote an article on
Speaker 4: subtech that basically said, this guy is a celebrity professor.
Speaker 4: He was the youngest full Cambridge professor in the school's
Speaker 4: thousand year history. And he said, this guy is a plagiarist,
Speaker 4: he's a fabulouist, and the school is protecting him. And
Speaker 4: this could have been a pretty quiet scandal, I think,
Speaker 4: except a ton of academics came out signed a big
Speaker 4: letter saying any attacks on Professor Arde are racist and
Speaker 4: bad and you guys.
Speaker 2: Should all shut up. And that got more attention.
Speaker 4: The press started to write more about it, and they
Speaker 4: discovered everything about this guy's life was a fraud. He
Speaker 4: had all of these spectacular claims, like he basically had
Speaker 4: Munchausen syndrome if you're familiar with that, where you fake illnesses.
Speaker 4: So he was saying he was said he wasn't able
Speaker 4: to he was like nonverbal until he was a teenager,
Speaker 4: that he couldn't read or write until he was eighteen,
Speaker 4: but then got a PhD.
Speaker 2: He said that he had.
Speaker 4: Like an accident and had locked in syndrome where he
Speaker 4: was totally paralyzed except for his eyes for six months.
Speaker 4: All of these spectacular claims that could be verified. Finally
Speaker 4: the heat got too much and he resigned his professorship.
Speaker 4: But then this took a very dark turn on Friday
Speaker 4: last week.
Speaker 2: Because he was found dead.
Speaker 4: It's very likely that he killed himself, yes, and that
Speaker 4: is a huge tragedy. But where this has taken a
Speaker 4: dark turn, especially because it is the UK, is thousands
Speaker 4: of people are rallying out in public you can show
Speaker 4: that be roll and signing petitions and saying the media
Speaker 4: lynched this professor out of racism because he was black,
Speaker 4: that we need to have controls on the press, and like,
Speaker 4: let's be clear, it is sad this young man well
Speaker 4: actually I say he's older than me. It's sad this
Speaker 4: man killed himself. He should not have done that. But nevertheless,
Speaker 4: you don't have the right to lie. This man was
Speaker 4: a fraudulent academic. We have accounts from the students at
Speaker 4: the school that he was a terrible professor because he.
Speaker 2: Couldn't teach them anything.
Speaker 4: And if he faced any press back pushback, he would
Speaker 4: accuse them of racism. He would threaten to call the
Speaker 4: police on reporters who investigated him. This was a guy
Speaker 4: who should not have had his job, but now because
Speaker 4: he has, frankly in a narcissistic way, once he was exposed,
Speaker 4: he ended his life. He's kind of everyone's rallying behind him.
Speaker 4: They're donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to a fundraiser
Speaker 4: for him. Much like in the Clancy case. They're demanding
Speaker 4: more censorship, they're demanding more crackdowns on the rights of bach.
Speaker 2: It's actually even worse than that.
Speaker 3: So our day after he killed himself, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: You've get this huge gathering in the UK of a
Speaker 3: bunch of I would say DEI supporters, leftist radicals. But
Speaker 3: when this would get exposed, when he would get called
Speaker 3: out on his serial fraud, he would sick police and
Speaker 3: lawyers on journalists. So this has been going on. They've
Speaker 3: been trying to expose this for a while. Everybody's coming
Speaker 3: after this whole crowd. Every time Nathan Kaufness's name is
Speaker 3: brought up by the show his picture there, This poor
Speaker 3: guy is being demonized for exposing fraud.
Speaker 2: What what do you want?
Speaker 3: Do you do you not want fraud exposed in academy
Speaker 3: because it happens a lot. People are fraudulent, they're plagiarists.
Speaker 3: We saw this with the Harvard president, Clouding Gay, I think,
Speaker 3: and they're.
Speaker 4: Totally doing these character assassinations of him because coffness. So
Speaker 4: he wasn't academic. He was driven out because he wrote
Speaker 4: controversial stuff about racial differences, about IQ stuff kind of
Speaker 4: kind of similar to what Steve Saylor writes, remember having
Speaker 4: him on, and so they're just saying this guy is
Speaker 4: a racist. Well the answer to that is who cares?
Speaker 4: This guy exposed a plagiarist and a fraudster, which all
Speaker 4: of you knew about. All of you could have stopped
Speaker 4: at any time, and you chose not to. So he
Speaker 4: showed that Cambridge and the British academic apparatus is fraudulent
Speaker 4: and discredited.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so a couple things can be true and
Speaker 3: the Internet struggles with this.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: His apparent suicide is sad and tragic, there's no doubt.
Speaker 3: But don't blame the press. Don't blame the academic that
Speaker 3: exposed it. By the way, he was very happy to
Speaker 3: be the darling of the of the media when things
Speaker 3: were good, when they were lotting him, when they were
Speaker 3: propping him up into this position. Right, Don't blame the academic.
Speaker 3: This guy's getting villainized now, character assassination against him.
Speaker 2: Blame Cambridge, Blame our dae.
Speaker 3: Himself, Blame drugs if they were involved in his in
Speaker 3: his suicide, or blame the cis that propped a man
Speaker 3: up into a position that he never should have been there.
Speaker 3: If he would have never been the Cambridge Dei darling,
Speaker 3: he'd still be alive today.
Speaker 4: He probably would be good comparison. If you guys haven't
Speaker 4: followed this story. He tried to pull a Justsey Smolette
Speaker 4: style like fake hate crest, where he said people were
Speaker 4: sending like cut off pigs heads from a butcher shop
Speaker 4: to his doorstop. He said a white person menaced him
Speaker 4: with a knife. He was claiming these things and when
Speaker 4: The Guardian, a left wing newspaper in Britain, investigated this
Speaker 4: and found no evidence for it, they contacted him and
Speaker 4: he replied, honestly, I thought you'd just believe me, and
Speaker 4: so let's imagine Jesse Smolette. His story was really funny,
Speaker 4: it was very humiliating, it messed up his career. Let's
Speaker 4: say he killed himself as part of that. Would that
Speaker 4: suddenly make what he did acceptable? Absolutely not, Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: And if people had demanded censorship of the American press
Speaker 4: over this, if they'd said any of the people who
Speaker 4: said Jesse Smolett's hate crime was fake, that those people
Speaker 4: should be denounced as racists, that they're bad people for
Speaker 4: doing that, that would be insane and we would have
Speaker 4: to push back on it. And we have to push
Speaker 4: back on it here because we were talking about this today.
Speaker 4: This links so much with the Lindsay Clancy case, and
Speaker 4: both of these cases feel like a culmination of having
Speaker 4: left wing assumptions about the world that it elevates people
Speaker 4: who are who poor victimhood on themselves and they.
Speaker 2: Use it to hurt other people.
Speaker 4: Even especially when they're hurting other people, it just makes
Speaker 4: them more victims. That Lindsay Clancy is somehow more worthy
Speaker 4: of money and love and respect because she did the
Speaker 4: most atrocious thing possible, which is kill your own children.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, our dae was a fraud. We have to
Speaker 3: keep this the truth, the truth. The truth has to
Speaker 3: remain the truth. He's a serial hoaxer, a con artist,
Speaker 3: and he presumably took his own life, okay, when that
Speaker 3: fraud was exposed. If that ends up being true, that
Speaker 3: is suicide. It's either the result of severe mental illness,
Speaker 3: and yeah, that deserves help, passion and all those things
Speaker 3: and treatment. But it's also possibly the ultimate act of
Speaker 3: cowardice in a long list of cowardly acts by this man.
Speaker 3: So now he because he does this, it's in a
Speaker 3: weird perverse way, almost like a final act of control
Speaker 3: over a situation that had become uncontrollable for him, where
Speaker 3: he now gets to have ultimate victim status because he
Speaker 3: was so put upon that he took his own life,
Speaker 3: and that should not be celebrated or lauded or lifted
Speaker 3: up as somehow an ideal or a good thing. The
Speaker 3: moral inversion that is happening on so many of these
Speaker 3: cases is bonkers, and it is a really troubling sign
Speaker 3: that we're falling victim to it. So there is a
Speaker 3: crazy story about the big polling misses that we've seen
Speaker 3: in some of these especially dsas.
Speaker 4: A consequential polling.
Speaker 3: Miss I mean, we're talking like what misses for the
Speaker 3: ages These are historic throughout one fifty six. This is
Speaker 3: from bright Bar Polling Firms showing Karen Bass Francesca Hong
Speaker 3: in lead. Admits fake polls. Short term social media experiment
Speaker 3: is what they're calling it, So basically, a fake polling
Speaker 3: firm projecting Los Angeles mayor Karen Bass and Wisconsin Democrats
Speaker 3: socialist scubatorial candidate Francesca Hong with leads over their opponent
Speaker 3: admits these were fake polls as part of a short
Speaker 3: term social media experiment. In a statement posted to the
Speaker 3: website for Median Strategies, the fake polling firm explained it
Speaker 3: has concluded its polling project and will not publish additional polls.
Speaker 3: It also says all previously published polling releases have been
Speaker 3: withdrawn and should not be cited or treated as genuine
Speaker 3: as polling.
Speaker 4: It was part of a short term experiment examining how
Speaker 4: purported polling information could enter and spread through the political
Speaker 4: information ecosystem without independent verification. And you mentioned the Los
Speaker 4: Angeles one, but the even more monumental one is they
Speaker 4: put out a poll that showed the Democrat socialist Francesca
Speaker 4: Hong way out in front in that governor's primary, and
Speaker 4: that had consequences because we were discussing this with Tyler
Speaker 4: to this affect the race, because it looked like Hong,
Speaker 4: if she won that primary, would have been at a
Speaker 4: pretty big disadvantage compared to any other Democrat and the
Speaker 4: governor's race, and might help us in all the other
Speaker 4: races in that state. And I'll be frank, I think
Speaker 4: a lot of Republicans we went really wild making fun
Speaker 4: of Hong and getting really committed to her and assuming
Speaker 4: she was the nominee because her rivals had dropped out
Speaker 4: and she was way a help in these polls. And
Speaker 4: then she lost and now we're stuck with no Hong,
Speaker 4: and ah, we wish she was running in the actual race.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I do think that it probably doesn't
Speaker 3: bode well for Tom Tiffany going up against somebody that's
Speaker 3: been painted as a matter who's not a moderate.
Speaker 2: None of them are. None of them are.
Speaker 3: But it's a branding. Branding matters, a lot matters. Branding matters,
Speaker 3: but the guys are total incompetent. Tom Tiffany should win that,
Speaker 3: but it's you know, this is a mid term. Trump's
Speaker 3: not on the ballot. The's a lot of headwinds. You
Speaker 3: could still get this Crowley guy. But this is very
Speaker 3: interesting because we have been told that the polls are
Speaker 3: wrong when you're pulling MAGA, and now the polls are
Speaker 3: going to be wrong when you're pulling DSA for similar
Speaker 3: but inverted reasons.
Speaker 4: You just might have pollsters who put out fa fake poles.
Speaker 4: This almost feels like it should be illegal, like it's
Speaker 4: some form of fraud on the public, especially when you
Speaker 4: have prediction markets as a factor that people react to
Speaker 4: and stuff. It's very interesting because you could imagine someone
Speaker 4: dresses up a whole fake polling firm and they do
Speaker 4: a fraudulent pole just to shift one of those prediction markets,
Speaker 4: and you can cash in on a fake pole.
Speaker 2: There's so much they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, there's a short term social media experiments
Speaker 3: who said to examine how purported polling information could enter
Speaker 3: and spread through the political information ecosystem. It's just wowd
Speaker 3: They had hung up by twenty three points lead over
Speaker 3: David Crowley and wisconsocupatorial primary media.
Speaker 2: I reported on it.
Speaker 3: So this ended up getting injected into the veins of
Speaker 3: the political media ecosystem, and then we actually have a
Speaker 3: real race going on today in Florida that a lot
Speaker 3: of people are watching. Sort of related because in that race,
Speaker 3: Byron Donalds is up big over James Fishback and some others.
Speaker 3: That's gonna happen today, Charlie, it should be noted endorse
Speaker 3: Byron donald There's some very early, very early, and Byron's
Speaker 3: been a guest on the show multiple times. But it's
Speaker 3: been interesting race to observe from afar because James Fishback
Speaker 3: has used very unorthodox strategies in order to sort of
Speaker 3: attack Byron Donald's.
Speaker 2: He's called them some He's called them some agresto.
Speaker 4: I don't think it would be I don't even think
Speaker 4: he would necessarily disagree to say. He is the first
Speaker 4: I don't know how else to put it, a groper
Speaker 4: political candidate. He's very much leaned into that political brand.
Speaker 4: If you check his list of endorsements, it's uh, the
Speaker 4: Nick Fuentes, Sneako, Andrew Tait, Hodge Twins, Carrie Preen Baller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, an interesting set of endorsements. So where's the race
Speaker 2: at now?
Speaker 4: According to the polls, the race is that Donald's is
Speaker 4: way up. He generally has about fifty percent. There's another
Speaker 4: guy something Collins. They can't just give me the which
Speaker 4: Collins isn't here? Uh, let's see that is Jay Collins,
Speaker 4: Jay Collins. He's getting like twenty they're saying Fishbock is
Speaker 4: at seven eight percent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious for this audience. Have you followed James
Speaker 3: Fishback and Byron Donald's the race? It's been very, very contested,
Speaker 3: controversial on social media. Are you guys aware of it?
Speaker 3: Have you followed it? Did his messaging pierce through? Because
Speaker 3: what we're seeing with this race is very much a
Speaker 3: generational divide where gen Z is very very aware.
Speaker 2: Of James Fishback.
Speaker 3: He puts out TikTok videos with like zero messaging, just
Speaker 3: synth music, and apparently that that.
Speaker 2: Works with gen Z. I've talked to some of our students.
Speaker 3: They're they're following this very closely, I will tell you,
Speaker 3: But Byron Donalds is running away with it. It seems
Speaker 3: so really the intrigue here is can an upstart, as
Speaker 3: you said, like sort of a groper gubernatorial candidate who,
Speaker 3: by the way, had been on this show before early
Speaker 3: on Adams. Fishback came on the show because he was
Speaker 3: part of a debate society that was trying to It
Speaker 3: was called incubate debate.
Speaker 2: And then the next thing I.
Speaker 3: Know he was he was involved in investing, and then
Speaker 3: he was like I saw him on like Stuve Varney's show,
Speaker 3: and then he was running for governor.
Speaker 2: All within the kids done. He's done a.
Speaker 4: Lot of dramatic things and he gets that what's interesting.
Speaker 2: About other people married? Really he got married very abruptly.
Speaker 4: He's he did a whole stunt where he said he
Speaker 4: wasn't going to pay his lawyer because his lawyer lost,
Speaker 4: and so he says, you only should pay your lawyer
Speaker 4: when you win. I believe that he's been ordered by
Speaker 4: a court to pay his lawyer. So he's There's various
Speaker 4: i'll be blunt, scam adjacent stuff that he has done.
Speaker 4: And yet he has a certain political talent where he
Speaker 4: got a lot of attention because he'll come out and
Speaker 4: he'll say there's tons of racism.
Speaker 2: Against young white men and we should fight against that.
Speaker 4: So it's one of those things where he'll say stuff
Speaker 4: that in isolation really impresses you, and then he'll do
Speaker 4: other stuff where you roll your eyes and go, what
Speaker 4: does this guy do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a massive amount of respect for just
Speaker 3: the creativity I will say when people kind of come
Speaker 3: in and they shift a mode of the way of
Speaker 3: doing things that I have legitimately been impressed by. But yeah,
Speaker 3: some of it, you're just like, I don't feel like
Speaker 3: this is serious, right, So you kind of wonder what
Speaker 3: the ultimate goal is here. But we are watching Florida
Speaker 3: results coming in today. We expect Byron Donald's to take it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: Students for Life, joining us now. She's got a bombshell
Speaker 3: news story out of Idaho, of all places, and I'm
Speaker 3: just shocked to hear about it. But she's also got
Speaker 3: controversial takes on the Lindsay Clancy case, so we are
Speaker 3: very excited to have her on.
Speaker 2: Christen, welcome back to the show. It's great to see you.
Speaker 3: I just want to say when I saw you at
Speaker 3: the Women's Leadership Summit, I couldn't get over just how
Speaker 3: much those young women look up to you.
Speaker 2: They love listening to you. You had them wrapped. Their
Speaker 2: attention was just fixed on you.
Speaker 3: So I just I hope people realize, like a what
Speaker 3: a leading voice you are in this space Students for Life.
Speaker 3: You were fighting for the unborn, and we appreciate the
Speaker 3: work you do. I want to start maybe this feels
Speaker 3: inverted to you, but this is why I reached out first,
Speaker 3: and we've been talking this hour with the moral inversion
Speaker 3: that we're seeing in it seems like the way so
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Lindsey Clancy is the victim and
Speaker 3: she's almost there's almost a million dollars raised for her.
Speaker 3: But you said the way that conservative men online are
Speaker 3: talking about it is not productive, and so you share
Speaker 3: that's she's guilty of a serious crime here obviously and
Speaker 3: should be held accountable. So you know, kudos forgetting it
Speaker 3: the basics right, But why are we talking about this
Speaker 3: in a way that is counterproductive?
Speaker 2: I want to hear your pov.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's we need to win female voters.
Speaker 5: It's not I don't think shocking Andrew for us understand
Speaker 5: that the GOP needs female voters and we tend to
Speaker 5: have a problem with female voters when it comes to
Speaker 5: key election years.
Speaker 6: This is not the way.
Speaker 5: Well, we're seeing a lot of concern men talking about
Speaker 5: postpartum depression to postpartum psychosis as if it's like a
Speaker 5: made up thing that women don't experience. This like that's
Speaker 5: not helpful to the conversation. What Lindsay did is horrific
Speaker 5: and she should spend the rest of her life locked
Speaker 5: up for killing her three children. They are the real
Speaker 5: victims in this situation. But I don't understand why we
Speaker 5: have all this going on. We still haven't passed to
Speaker 5: Save America Act. We have the midterms, we have critical
Speaker 5: primaries happening, for example today in Wyoming, a runoff next
Speaker 5: week in South Carolina. Why are we finding the time
Speaker 5: as conservatives, especially men, to then debate about whether or
Speaker 5: not postpartum depression is real? Postpartum depression is real. Having
Speaker 5: that conversation as men, sorry, can turn off women because
Speaker 5: you haven't had a postpartum depression or experience this. And
Speaker 5: I think every conservative man I know would agree with
Speaker 5: me that men receiving female hormones, even men who think
Speaker 5: that they're women, is a really bad idea. And we've
Speaker 5: been talking about that in our national conversation for years now,
Speaker 5: especially when you look at trans of violence, like it's
Speaker 5: a really bad idea to inject female hormones into a
Speaker 5: man just because a man feels like he's a woman.
Speaker 5: So we know these hormones are powerful, we know they
Speaker 5: do weird things to men, So obviously postpartum depression is
Speaker 5: a thing. It doesn't mean that everybody who says they
Speaker 5: have postpartum depression has. I mean, and I don't think
Speaker 5: it's an excuse for behavior, but I definitely don't prescribe
Speaker 5: conservative men deciding let's pick a fight with women on
Speaker 5: X on TikTok right now and try to make them
Speaker 5: feel bad if they've had postparum depression. Like I just
Speaker 5: it's not productive and it's not keeping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I certainly am not on the school of
Speaker 3: thought that it's not real. But it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of women have postpartum depression. Apparently they don't
Speaker 3: murder their kids, so exactly, right, So I think that's
Speaker 3: where it's getting lost. It's kind of like for a
Speaker 3: male brain, we're just like, yeah, but one does not
Speaker 3: justify the other.
Speaker 2: So what are we been talking about here?
Speaker 4: It feels like we should just be able to divorce
Speaker 4: and come in and say whatever this woman did, it
Speaker 4: shouldn't just fall under the umbrella of oh, well, this
Speaker 4: is just what can happen with postpartum depression.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: We could say that is a natural thing in the
Speaker 4: same way that someone who does a school shooting might
Speaker 4: have depression clinically, but we don't say like, well, depression
Speaker 4: made him do it exactly.
Speaker 5: I mean, and that's that's that's undermining everyone who's experienced
Speaker 5: this to say, oh, you had post war on depression,
Speaker 5: you were you were dangerous. You know, you could have
Speaker 5: killed your children and strangled your children like this monster did.
Speaker 5: And I think we need to be careful about that
Speaker 5: because we are trying to actually have a conversation and
Speaker 5: win over voters here, and there's so much this story.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think what we're seeing and I think
Speaker 5: the reason why so many of my male friends on
Speaker 5: x are kind of going headfirst into this is, you know,
Speaker 5: it's a conversation I have with my husband right where
Speaker 5: you've had twenty plus years of third wave feminism telling
Speaker 5: men that they are evil and bad just for being men.
Speaker 5: And what we're seeing on TikTok with these liberal feminist
Speaker 5: women who are raising money for Lindsay, they're literally putting
Speaker 5: out videos saying, oh, it has to be the husband.
Speaker 5: Look at the husband, he looks bad.
Speaker 6: Now. I have serious concerns about the husband.
Speaker 5: Leaving his wife at home who had been hospitalized for
Speaker 5: this with his children. I don't think I have ever
Speaker 5: prescribed that and I think there's something we looked into
Speaker 5: on that, but just saying like we somehow these liberal
Speaker 5: feminist women are now saying that, like they can envision
Speaker 5: men strangling children and doing terrible things, but they can't
Speaker 5: women doing it, And so I think it's insane. And
Speaker 5: then when think about their narrative of trust all women,
Speaker 5: Lindsay admitted she shanngled her children.
Speaker 6: She admitted it. That's actually not.
Speaker 2: What is admitting it too. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So like it's not a debatable thing, but yet
Speaker 5: we have women on TikTok who can't even trust her,
Speaker 5: and when she admitted she killed her three children.
Speaker 6: And so I think you have both sides of this
Speaker 6: coming at this completely wrong.
Speaker 5: You have the liberal feminists and then you have the
Speaker 5: right men who just I guess want to pick a
Speaker 5: fight with every woman in America.
Speaker 3: Well, I think we're just reacting to like and maybe
Speaker 3: it's just this is like the perfect sort of dividing
Speaker 3: kind of issue because I'm looking at it and I'm
Speaker 3: going like, what the heck is happening out there? Like
Speaker 3: this is not a hard call, and yet so and
Speaker 3: we're getting videos like this, so we're not responding to
Speaker 3: sensible women like yourself that are just saying, hey, postpartum
Speaker 3: is real.
Speaker 2: You're a dude. You haven't experienced it. You know, it's
Speaker 2: not even like you know abortion.
Speaker 7: With it.
Speaker 6: Doing the talking.
Speaker 2: By the way, I appreciate it exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, they say, men, we can't
Speaker 3: have an opinion about abortions because we never been pregnant. Well,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I have three children. I have a
Speaker 3: really strong opinion about abortion. Okay, but when it comes
Speaker 3: to postparder depression, fair enough, I've not experienced that. I
Speaker 3: do not have personal experience with that. But this is
Speaker 3: the kind of crap we're reacting to here. Okay, it's
Speaker 3: not twenty.
Speaker 8: And at this point, if you're a man saying like
Speaker 8: she should just go to prison, she did it. Patrick's innocent.
Speaker 7: Leave him alone.
Speaker 8: He was a great dad. With all the evidences coming out.
Speaker 8: If you are saying that about Patrick, still, I'm just
Speaker 8: going to assume that you are abusive. I'm just going
Speaker 8: to assume assume that you are a piece of husband too,
Speaker 8: and that you condone and support and enable abusive behavior,
Speaker 8: Like where are all the good men.
Speaker 5: Who Yeah, I don't claim for she might be my gender,
Speaker 5: but I don't have to claim.
Speaker 2: Please don't, please don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, where are all the good It's so okay.
Speaker 5: So this is the fact that just asking the wrong question,
Speaker 5: like we need to be talking about the victims. Here
Speaker 5: are the three babies who were mercilessly strangled and killed,
Speaker 5: and we need to and I think you could use
Speaker 5: this opportunity to talk about post PARM depression, post PARM psychosis,
Speaker 5: the probably the over prescriptions of SSRIs as woman was
Speaker 5: on three SSRIs, which is kind of a problem, especially
Speaker 5: when we look at gen Z women and the conversations
Speaker 5: I'm having with them on campuses, and the numbing of
Speaker 5: American women in general, who are just, oh, you feel
Speaker 5: bad by your life. Here go on this SSRI. That's
Speaker 5: totally going to change how your brain functions. There's a
Speaker 5: good conversation that can come out of this, but this one,
Speaker 5: it isn't it picking the fight with women. I think
Speaker 5: you absolutely need to call out this insanity on the
Speaker 5: left of these women who can't trust women who've admitted
Speaker 5: they've killed their children and.
Speaker 6: Somehow think it's all well.
Speaker 9: Men.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, that is the evil rot of third wave and
Speaker 6: second wave feminism. In our country and we should call
Speaker 6: that out.
Speaker 3: And it's I you know, and I've said this, We
Speaker 3: said this on the show yesterday. You know, we have
Speaker 3: lived through this insanity after Charlie was killed where And
Speaker 3: it's the fallacy of the gaps. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: and Daisy and our team is more up on the
Speaker 3: instagram of it all. And she was she was trying
Speaker 3: to explain some of the stuff she was seeing, and
Speaker 3: she was like, well, apparently he was wearing different shoes
Speaker 3: at the at the CVS then and he couldn't remember where,
Speaker 3: you know, and apparently she couldn't talk, but yet she
Speaker 3: told him that the kids were downstairs or something like.
Speaker 3: So there's these gaps in knowledge, right, And so they
Speaker 3: fill in the gaps with the meme of like the
Speaker 3: always sunny in Philadelphia meme with the lines like connecting
Speaker 3: all of this stuff and filling it in with the
Speaker 3: most like extravagant connective tissue that now Patrick has to
Speaker 3: have been Calancy has to have been guilty of doing this,
Speaker 3: and that he's a scumback because he got married you know,
Speaker 3: I guess around a year after or something. You know
Speaker 3: that just because he got married a year after doesn't
Speaker 3: suggest that he had anything to do with killing his children. So, like,
Speaker 3: I just want to see us get back to a
Speaker 3: sense of the Let the facts be the facts. And
Speaker 3: the Internet is really starting to freak me out because
Speaker 3: you know the places these people will go. By the way,
Speaker 3: there is a tie in here that I wanted to
Speaker 3: bring up. I saw this from an account Lizzie Lizzie Marbach.
Speaker 3: I don't know who this person is. She makes a
Speaker 3: point that felt relevant to She said, people keep asking
Speaker 3: why are so many women defending Lindsay Clancy. The answer
Speaker 3: is simple. Over twenty five percent of women did exactly
Speaker 3: what Lindsay did. They murdered their children too, in cold blood,
Speaker 3: just like she did via abortion. I don't know that
Speaker 3: the stats right, but I thought it was an interesting
Speaker 3: thought that I I mean, are we just getting desensitized
Speaker 3: to this because of our culture around abortion?
Speaker 6: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: All of this I think ties into it because I mean,
Speaker 5: why are women online crying over Lindsay Clancy and not
Speaker 5: the three that she lost. It's because we've even you know,
Speaker 5: not only just preborn children, but either born children are
Speaker 5: valued less than a full grown adult. And I think absolutely,
Speaker 5: I mean, you look at this the entire left's argument
Speaker 5: for the wantonness. You know, so I often hear on
Speaker 5: campuses of well, we want every child to be a
Speaker 5: wanted child, and that will solve you know, all of
Speaker 5: this child abuse, will solve child murder. That's not the
Speaker 5: case here. This this, These were three wanted children by
Speaker 5: all accounts, and who are still wanted. So no, just
Speaker 5: because a child is wanted doesn't mean terrible things won't
Speaker 5: happen to them. And I think that it's insane when
Speaker 5: you hear leftists try to justify the violence of abortion
Speaker 5: simply because they want every child to be a wanted child.
Speaker 5: So I absolutely think there's a tie into to abortion.
Speaker 5: There's a tie into abortion and so many of our
Speaker 5: issues because we've just stopped.
Speaker 6: Seeing other human beings.
Speaker 5: As valuable and worthy of life. But I think we
Speaker 5: have to be careful here when we're having And that
Speaker 5: was my point my post yesterday of like I was like, hello,
Speaker 5: I think I'm a pretty sane person, and I wasn't
Speaker 5: even inclued into the story.
Speaker 6: And I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 5: Why are all of my friends attacking women who have
Speaker 5: had postpartum depression?
Speaker 6: Like it just seems crazy. We need them to vote
Speaker 6: with us.
Speaker 10: We need more women.
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Speaker 3: she was at a coffeehouse yesterday in Idaho. This is
Speaker 3: not good red Idaho. Is this at least Boise?
Speaker 2: No, No, where was it.
Speaker 5: We're in the Teton Valley, so it's Drake's Idaho. It's
Speaker 5: outside of Jackson Hole, so I mean, yes, I did
Speaker 5: move to the most blue part of Idaho, so I
Speaker 5: do have that coming to it.
Speaker 2: All right, fair enough, we have the video.
Speaker 3: I find it shocking actually that this is still this
Speaker 3: kind of stuff still happens. But here we got twelve, I.
Speaker 11: Said everybody, but I said it.
Speaker 12: I don't want this group meeting here.
Speaker 6: So we're just meeting for the first meeting.
Speaker 2: I don't care go to the pub libraries.
Speaker 6: This is but I thought this was like we come
Speaker 6: here all the time. We just already bought our food
Speaker 6: and stuff.
Speaker 11: Did I make it very clear that I did not
Speaker 11: want you here. Yeah. I did a lot of work
Speaker 11: to get people on the ballot for so women would
Speaker 11: have the right to choose in the state of Idaho.
Speaker 11: And this is something I do not support, nor does
Speaker 11: my wife. And it's our business, so we have that choice.
Speaker 6: So you're kicking us out, You're kicking out me. I'm there,
Speaker 6: who's starting this screw and you're gonna kick us out.
Speaker 11: It's like if you if the KKK asked to meet here,
Speaker 11: I would say, no.
Speaker 5: Do you think co libraries are like the KKK?
Speaker 6: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 11: In my world, it's the same, it's the same sort
Speaker 11: of concept.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Very funny because Margaret Sanger did speak
Speaker 2: to the KKK.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, market Sanger literally spoke to the women's auxiliary
Speaker 5: of the KKK. The reason why we have legal abortion
Speaker 5: in their country today was because of racist eugenicists who
Speaker 5: believe people of low breeds and stocks should not have
Speaker 5: the right to reproduce. So the whole abortion industry is
Speaker 5: founded in racism and rooted in racism. That's what the
Speaker 5: owner of Whydaho Roasters failed to make that point.
Speaker 2: So give us the backstory here.
Speaker 3: Sure, so you've been going to this coffee shop for
Speaker 3: a while, but you were having sort of a meeting
Speaker 3: to form a chapter or a group.
Speaker 6: Sure, so it's the only donut place in town.
Speaker 7: It's great.
Speaker 5: I would use my points yesterday to get some donuts
Speaker 5: for my kids, because I didn't. I was a bad mom,
Speaker 5: didn't have time to make dinner. So, my son, who's
Speaker 5: sixteen years old, is a Charlie Kirk Courage Fellow at
Speaker 5: Students for Life Action. This is a fellowship we launched
Speaker 5: this year in honor of Charlie to motivate young pro
Speaker 5: life students to get involved in politics. So my sixteen
Speaker 5: year old son, Bear took this on and he is
Speaker 5: trying to recruit door knockers in Idaho so we can
Speaker 5: go door to door arguing against Prop one, which this
Speaker 5: coffee shop owner supports, which would make abortion legal up
Speaker 5: until the moment of birth in the Idaho Constitution. And
Speaker 5: I'll be on our ballots this November. And so Bear
Speaker 5: decided he wanted to host an abortion Free Teton Valley.
Speaker 5: I'm helping him co lead the group. We had a
Speaker 5: number of people, more people than we thought. About fifteen
Speaker 5: people show up and I just posted on Facebook. We
Speaker 5: have about three Facebook chapters into Teton Valley about happenings
Speaker 5: and things are going on that we were having our
Speaker 5: first meeting. We wanted you all to gather at Wydaho.
Speaker 5: They're kind of a public meeting spot. They have Queer
Speaker 5: Coffee Hour, they do pet adoption foster days, they do
Speaker 5: book club.
Speaker 6: Meetings, free movie nights, they do all these things. Chess
Speaker 6: clubs meet there.
Speaker 5: So we're going to meet there at the first meeting
Speaker 5: because we had it's a very interfaith crowd, uh here
Speaker 5: in Teiton Valley, and so my kids were there and
Speaker 5: a number of elderly folks in the community.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 5: We had somebody like in a wheelchair and this coffee shop,
Speaker 5: and I knew.
Speaker 6: He was liberal.
Speaker 5: I mean, he's got the gay flag out, but he
Speaker 5: has the everybody welcome sign. We were being quiet, we
Speaker 5: were all you know, you know, supporting his business. I
Speaker 5: spent forty dollars buying donuts and drinks for my kids.
Speaker 5: He let us buy all of our food. And then
Speaker 5: as soon as we all sat down, he came barreling
Speaker 5: out of his office yelling at us. And even when
Speaker 5: we got up to leave, he turned up the music
Speaker 5: so loud. We had to go outside to figure out
Speaker 5: where we were going to meet, and we've to finish
Speaker 5: our meeting. But it was you know, I even offered
Speaker 5: at one point, like can I we just finished this meeting.
Speaker 6: We're not coming back. This is the first meeting.
Speaker 5: We need to see who wanted to come, But he
Speaker 5: had want nothing to do with us, and I think
Speaker 5: it's really illuminating. I mean, this guy gave coffee to
Speaker 5: the No King's protests, They've done fundraisers for today good.
Speaker 5: I mean, we know they're liberal, but we all kind
Speaker 5: of thought that, you know, everyone's pretty casual here in Idaho,
Speaker 5: like even if you disagree politically, you can get along,
Speaker 5: that we would at least be tolerated. But then to
Speaker 5: find out he thought that we were like the KKK,
Speaker 5: it was pretty shocking.
Speaker 4: It just goes to show, you know, they say all welcome,
Speaker 4: they don't really mean all. It's a And that's sad
Speaker 4: to see because Charlie mentioned that. Charlie was also a believer,
Speaker 4: like you don't want everything in your life to be
Speaker 4: endlessly through the lens of politics, even though he's a
Speaker 4: guy who thought about politics all the time. He wanted
Speaker 4: to be able to shop at somewhere without going without.
Speaker 4: You know, well, we need to do an inventory of
Speaker 4: what this person's beliefs are.
Speaker 2: But it's harder to do that.
Speaker 3: You if you got a consultation on the legality behind this.
Speaker 3: Does he have the right to do this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he obviously has the right to do it.
Speaker 5: It's his private property, and that's why we end up.
Speaker 5: He said he wouldn't kick he wasn't kicking us off,
Speaker 5: but then he turned up the music, so he kicked
Speaker 5: us out, so we left. We weren't going to put
Speaker 5: up a fight with that. But I think it's interesting though.
Speaker 5: You look at Colorado, they have a human rights commission
Speaker 5: that went to their state Supreme Court to try to
Speaker 5: force a Christian cake baker to bake a gay wedding cake.
Speaker 5: So I guess I should call in a cake over
Speaker 5: there and see if they'll they'll make me a pro life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or just get all your like black pro lifers
Speaker 3: there and have another meeting and see if he's willing
Speaker 3: to try and kick them out too, and call them
Speaker 3: like the KKK, because we like there's some of the
Speaker 3: best pro lifers are, like you know, from the Black Church,
Speaker 3: and they're passionate about this because their their community has
Speaker 3: been hit hardest by it.
Speaker 5: And our Central Life Regional coordinator in Idaho is black.
Speaker 5: So next time she's at my house, I'm going to
Speaker 5: force her to go in seriously banned from the Good
Speaker 5: Donuts apparently, but he's taken down as social he's taken
Speaker 5: down his website. He knows he's done something wrong and
Speaker 5: and it's it's been interesting for me to see in
Speaker 5: the community. I was getting students all all night last night,
Speaker 5: turning Point Club America, kids reaching out saying we've got
Speaker 5: to do something, and I think it's it's a real problem.
Speaker 5: Like what we live in a very rural area. It
Speaker 5: takes an hour and ten minutes to get to a
Speaker 5: pregnancy crisis center. So one of the things we were
Speaker 5: meeting about last night was how can we provide diapers
Speaker 5: in formula two poor families right here in teat tom Valley.
Speaker 5: He wasn't even would even let us get to that
Speaker 5: point in the conversation, like he doesn't care because he's
Speaker 5: he's about a boy and abortion all nine months of
Speaker 5: pregnancy and so tolerant that he wouldn't even let pro
Speaker 5: lifers assemblize coffeehouse.
Speaker 3: Okay, So what can people do to get behind you
Speaker 3: right now, Kristen? Like this is people are going to
Speaker 3: want to support you and support these local chapters and
Speaker 3: the work you're doing that's so great across the country.
Speaker 3: But what can they do what would be helpful right now?
Speaker 5: If you're in Idaho, if you're a Missouri go to
Speaker 5: Students Lifeaction dot org, slash deployments, sign up to door
Speaker 5: knock with me, my kids, and all our Students for
Speaker 5: Life chapter leaders in key election states, especially as bout
Speaker 5: referend THEUM states.
Speaker 6: You can also go to Students for Life dot org.
Speaker 5: We are honored to serve more than seventeen hundred chapters
Speaker 5: across the country, and we're so lucky to partner with
Speaker 5: so many amazing turning point.
Speaker 6: In Club America groups.
Speaker 5: So you can go to Students for Life dot org,
Speaker 5: find out about our groups, join our prayer team, and
Speaker 5: even become a supporter of Students for Life because.
Speaker 6: This isn't certainly going to stop us.
Speaker 5: I was checking on my son last night because he's
Speaker 5: never experienced this before, and he is on board, ready
Speaker 5: to go. And so I think the good thing that's
Speaker 5: going to come out of this is my four children.
Speaker 5: The adults that gathered with us, they now know they've
Speaker 5: got to stand up a fight. Even our sleepy little
Speaker 5: town in Idaho, we have to stand up against the
Speaker 5: abortion industry and the radical leftists who are trying to
Speaker 5: destroy our They.
Speaker 3: Are so inclusive, they're so inclusive unless they disagree with you,
Speaker 3: Kristen Hawkins, students for life, support them, God, bless you,
Speaker 3: Thank you Andrew.
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Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It's been too long, Sean. And by the way, you
Speaker 3: got the suit and tie. Well, the shirt and tie
Speaker 3: making me look bad.
Speaker 2: Over here, he's flexing on us pretty hard. Well, Sean,
Speaker 2: people don't know class.
Speaker 3: You've been working out a lot, your son is a
Speaker 3: great athlete, by the way, people don't know that, and
Speaker 3: you're looking.
Speaker 2: Good looking, looking sprightly.
Speaker 3: All right, So, Sean, you and I have found ourselves
Speaker 3: on the wrong end of like female Twitter, and they're
Speaker 3: mad at us for being very cut and dry. I
Speaker 3: just had Kristen Hawkins on the show to explain so
Speaker 3: her concerns. She's she's not being like one of these
Speaker 3: insane women that are, you know, donating money to the
Speaker 3: GoFundMe or whatever Lindsay Clancy. But she does think the
Speaker 3: way that we're talking about it is unhelpful politically, right,
Speaker 3: we've got midterms coming up. She thinks that we're being
Speaker 3: too gruff, we're being too abrasive, we don't understand postpartum psychosis.
Speaker 2: What say you? And how should we be talking about
Speaker 2: this issue? Yeah?
Speaker 12: I think I'm kind of reminded of of the Norm
Speaker 12: McDonald joke. Like, imagine if a crazy woman deliberately strangled
Speaker 12: and murdered all her children one by one after sending
Speaker 12: her husband away so she could get away with it,
Speaker 12: and people found out about it. Can you imagine the
Speaker 12: backlash against other psychopaths other world I'd like to I'm
Speaker 12: not having a national conversation about postpartum depression or hormones
Speaker 12: or whatever because some freaking, evil, demonic psychopaths strangled her kids. Okay,
Speaker 12: she needs to be hanged or electrocuted or shot or whatever.
Speaker 12: She's a psychopath. She's unrepentant, by the way, which is
Speaker 12: why we're having this trial. She doesn't want to deal
Speaker 12: with the consequences of what she did. And when people,
Speaker 12: by the way, are claiming they're too insane to know
Speaker 12: that murder is wrong, what they're actually saying is they're
Speaker 12: too insane to be allowed to continue living in any
Speaker 12: sort of society, whether it's in prison or without. Like
Speaker 12: this idea that insanity is somehow like a mitigating thing. No,
Speaker 12: if you're too insane to know it's wrong to strangle
Speaker 12: each of your children one by one, you don't get
Speaker 12: to live anymore. So I just have zero patients whatsoever
Speaker 12: for people who are like, well, let's talk about this,
Speaker 12: and let's talk about that.
Speaker 6: No, let's talk.
Speaker 12: About what we need to do to the psychopath and
Speaker 12: murdered her own kids.
Speaker 6: Okay, that's it.
Speaker 12: That's the only thing we should be discussing right now.
Speaker 3: Well, TikTok would disagree with you that she murdered her
Speaker 3: own kids, which is fascinating.
Speaker 2: It's not twenty.
Speaker 13: Three hypothetical scenario. A man is abusing.
Speaker 7: His five year old daughter.
Speaker 13: He is part of a pedophile ring. Other members of
Speaker 13: this ring include his best friend, the ADA chief police,
Speaker 13: possibly some doctors, nurses. And now let's say that the
Speaker 13: mother finds out. Would he then enlist the help of
Speaker 13: that ADA, that chief police, those doctors and nurses that
Speaker 13: are in that ring to help them cover it up.
Speaker 2: Hypothetical situation. Yeah, the whole thing there would tell.
Speaker 4: What stands out to me about that and so many
Speaker 4: of these other clips is not just that the stuff
Speaker 4: she's saying is nuts, but she has this whole effect
Speaker 4: like it's like she's playing in a TV character, Like
Speaker 4: she's trying to deliver a speech or a line that
Speaker 4: someone would give in a TV show, often sounding weirdly
Speaker 4: villainous as they do.
Speaker 2: Crime Brain.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like they're what, yeah, true crime Brain, TV Brain.
Speaker 4: It's like they've watched too many of these shows and
Speaker 4: then now it's pouring back and shaping their own personality
Speaker 4: more than we should allow fictitious or produced works to
Speaker 4: shape our real personalities, because TV is not real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is happening a lot. Actually, let's go ahead,
Speaker 3: and this reality star and actress Lisa Rena saying something
Speaker 3: similar st nine.
Speaker 6: All right, he did it.
Speaker 14: Patrick did it. Patrick's the one who did it, not Lindsay.
Speaker 14: Patrick did it. Because you know, I also heard that
Speaker 14: women typically don't strangle. So awful to even say, but
Speaker 14: that isn't what a woman would do. They don't strangle.
Speaker 14: I was actually in therapeu to day and my therapist
Speaker 14: and I were talking about it, and she looks at
Speaker 14: me and she goes, he did it.
Speaker 13: Wow?
Speaker 14: Yeah, and now yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a legitimate phenomena that's happening, and you
Speaker 3: have to be like, we have to be honest about it. Like,
Speaker 3: and we talk about the fallacy of the gaps. The
Speaker 3: Internet is filling in any gap they can find with
Speaker 3: alternate theories. And it feels eerily reminiscent John of things
Speaker 3: that I've lived through and Blake's live through. And I'm
Speaker 3: just wondering, you know, what does this mean for society?
Speaker 3: Like what does this mean for our politics?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 12: By the way, the funniest part of that last clip
Speaker 12: was when she says I was in therapy. Yeah, you
Speaker 12: don't say, you don't.
Speaker 2: Say, you don't There there is.
Speaker 12: A totally bizarre midwit obsession and affectation where and it
Speaker 12: was turbocharged by COVID, where a bunch of people who
Speaker 12: are not particularly that bright have decided that only they
Speaker 12: have certain secret knowledge about how things have transpired, and
Speaker 12: then they are now overlaying that on literally everything everything
Speaker 12: they see. If you had a report come out and
Speaker 12: say you know that the sun is going to rise
Speaker 12: in the morning, you would have scores of thousands of
Speaker 12: people on tiktoking like, actually, I have looked into it,
Speaker 12: and I was talking to Grock, and all of the
Speaker 12: evidence points to the sun not rising tomorrow. And it's
Speaker 12: it's something has happened collectively to the American brain where
Speaker 12: it has been totally broken. It has no discernment, It's
Speaker 12: completely incapable of discerning fact from reality. It's a truly
Speaker 12: bipartisan affliction. I don't think even though we're on the right,
Speaker 12: we can say it's well, it's only the lefties who
Speaker 12: are doing that. No, it is a massive, massive, problem.
Speaker 12: I don't know what the solution is. I see it
Speaker 12: as a total spiritual breakdown of our nation where you
Speaker 12: can't even tell basic things like boys from girls or
Speaker 12: murderers from innocent people. And this Clancy trial, literally no
Speaker 12: one in the trial is saying anyone but lindsay Clancy
Speaker 12: did it. Okay, The father is not saying it, well,
Speaker 12: he did it, so of course you wouldn't say. The
Speaker 12: defense isn't saying it. Clans herself isn't saying it. Everyone
Speaker 12: with any stake and this is saying she did it.
Speaker 12: They're just trying to say it's not really her fault
Speaker 12: because reasons. And yet you have half the Internet, like
Speaker 12: a bunch of retards, going out and pretending that somehow
Speaker 12: only they know the true secret that literally no one else,
Speaker 12: even those with all incentives to say otherwise, haven't yet discovered.
Speaker 12: It's one of the most enraging and mind boggling things
Speaker 12: I think I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Well, and we're seeing it with the Jason RDA situation
Speaker 3: in the UK as well, where you have a serial plagiarist,
Speaker 3: a hoaxer, a con artist who gets called out on
Speaker 3: the fraud, and yet there's thousands of people marching in
Speaker 3: London attacking the media for a lynching of some sort
Speaker 3: of media lynching of this con artist who committed suicide.
Speaker 3: So almost like similar, weirdly similar set of circumstances, and
Speaker 3: yet we have this and I think Blake's point is
Speaker 3: actually well made.
Speaker 2: This like true crying brain, you know where you.
Speaker 3: Root for the anti hero, You root for the person
Speaker 3: they tell you to be sympathetic for, even when all
Speaker 3: the facts of the situation should tell you that they're
Speaker 3: the bad guys.
Speaker 4: And there's so much of it one show with an
Speaker 4: anti hero when there's only a few shows to watch
Speaker 4: on TV, but you can basically marinate in the true
Speaker 4: crime stuff.
Speaker 3: Dude, and all day algo is rewarding it. This is
Speaker 3: the other thing that we have to be honest about.
Speaker 3: The algorithm is rewarding brain rot. It is getting clicks,
Speaker 3: it is getting comments, it's getting people whooped up, and
Speaker 3: it's rewarding people that feed it. And that's a huge,
Speaker 3: huge problem, Sean. So there it the more and more
Speaker 3: that I look at the landscape for the Democrats in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight, you and I have talked on this
Speaker 3: show much about JD.
Speaker 2: Marco all that stuff.
Speaker 3: But on the other side of the aisle, you've got
Speaker 3: John Ossoff who's running for reelection for Senate, but he
Speaker 3: seems to be posturing himself very presidentially. He's trying to
Speaker 3: do like all these boxes picking fights with President Trump.
Speaker 3: This was the moment that everybody's talking about Sop thirteen.
Speaker 9: The reason I asked about Natalie Harp is because it's
Speaker 9: kind of raised this question out there more questions about it.
Speaker 10: Well, I've heard this particular aid referred to as his
Speaker 10: security blanket, and I think we could say that about
Speaker 10: any number of the senior aides in the White House.
Speaker 10: They're not telling him what he needs to hear. They're
Speaker 10: telling him what he wants to hear. And the nation
Speaker 10: is at war and we cannot afford that. We need
Speaker 10: a team in the White House. We need folks at
Speaker 10: the State Department, at the Defense Department, in the United
Speaker 10: States Congress who take their jobs seriously. Those sailors out
Speaker 10: on the Lincoln, they do their jobs with excellence and
Speaker 10: dedication every single day. They didn't sign up for luxury.
Speaker 10: They signed up to defend the country. And the President,
Speaker 10: surrounded by enablers in the West Wing, is playing golf,
Speaker 10: is trading stock and is decorating his ballroom.
Speaker 2: It's a disgrace.
Speaker 3: So that was the exact clip that I wanted to
Speaker 3: play with this when he got followed up and asked by.
Speaker 2: Jen Pasaki, we're still getting it.
Speaker 4: But what he did is he was giving a big speech,
Speaker 4: a rally speech, and he says President Trump doesn't want
Speaker 4: to do his job. He just wants to travel with Natalie,
Speaker 4: And I guess this is a we have dog whistle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what he's suggesting. You know what he's
Speaker 3: suggesting here. It's not twenty five.
Speaker 10: And while the sailors on the Lincoln fight his war,
Speaker 10: while he fruitlessly drains our munitions and oil reserves, the
Speaker 10: president sleeps through his meetings, He golfs and trade stocks.
Speaker 2: See, he doesn't want to do the job.
Speaker 10: He wants to build his ballroom and travel with Natalie
Speaker 10: on their apparently defenseless flying palace gifted by the Emir
Speaker 10: of Qatar.
Speaker 2: So is this all a play?
Speaker 3: Because I've heard so much stuff from operatives. We're gonna
Speaker 3: have Mark Alpern on tomor. I'm definitely gonna be asking
Speaker 3: about that. Is this a play for twenty eight?
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a good question. One thing I learned when
Speaker 12: I worked on the hill in the Senate gosh, twenty
Speaker 12: years ago, is that when every senator gets up in
Speaker 12: the morning and looks into the mirror, he sees a
Speaker 12: president looking back at him. So it's an affliction that
Speaker 12: they're all saddled with. I will say I'm amused by
Speaker 12: his like TMU Vanilla Obama tone, like he's trying so
Speaker 12: hard to sound like Obama. Everything is a list of three.
Speaker 12: You've got the dramatic pauses, like my eyes almost rolled
Speaker 12: out of my head off camera while you were playing
Speaker 12: that clip. But yeah, he's clearly making a play for it.
Speaker 12: They're the Democrat bench right now is so shallow. The
Speaker 12: person at the top of the polls for twenty twenty
Speaker 12: eight is Kamala Harris. So you see a lot of
Speaker 12: these guys in the second or third tier. They've won
Speaker 12: statewide office once and so that obviously they think they
Speaker 12: should be commander in chief, and they see, Wow, there's
Speaker 12: an opening for me here. I've never done anything particularly impressive.
Speaker 12: I've accomplished nothing is a senator. Nobody could pick me
Speaker 12: out of lineup. But then again, Kamala Harris was vice president,
Speaker 12: so I might as well throw my hat in the
Speaker 12: ring at this, and we're going to see a lot
Speaker 12: more of it. I think once November is over, the
Speaker 12: full jockeying is going to begin. But I'd say to
Speaker 12: John Ossoff, you're a white guy, good luck getting the
Speaker 12: nomination in that party.
Speaker 2: Have all that with that, buddy.
Speaker 4: That's so interesting you say that, because it does feel
Speaker 4: like you might have. You have three competing strands within
Speaker 4: the Democrats. One the Kamala Harris Redocks, you might call
Speaker 4: the the DEI hangover of Trump bad white men bad,
Speaker 4: pretend it's still twenty twenty. Kind of just run a
Speaker 4: demographic candidate designed by a committee, and we know how
Speaker 4: that went with Kamala. Another is it reflects the intense
Speaker 4: radicalism that young Democrats have that they're getting absolutely overheated
Speaker 4: by Trump, and so that would be they'd get a
Speaker 4: DSA candidate of some kind that could be AOC, could
Speaker 4: be someone else, but someone just really running on being
Speaker 4: very radical. And then I think, as off Kelly, they
Speaker 4: slot into what you might call the most pragmatic part
Speaker 4: of the party, which says, guys, Trump's not doesn't have
Speaker 4: that high of an approval. How about we just run
Speaker 4: a nice like not senile white guy. We avoid all
Speaker 4: the DEI stuff, we avoid being called radical, and we
Speaker 4: just play it safe.
Speaker 2: And that's how we went back to the White House.
Speaker 4: And it seems like those three strands are competing with
Speaker 4: each other and it's not really clear which of them
Speaker 4: will win.
Speaker 3: Well, it's also interesting that John Ossoff is Jewish. Right,
Speaker 3: you have to be an issue. You have the Shapiro
Speaker 3: issue as well. Right, they try and run away from
Speaker 3: their Jewishness because it's very unpopular within the Democrats, but
Speaker 3: it's definitely gonna come up. I mean, you know, especially
Speaker 3: in that party, right, well, you get the DSA folks.
Speaker 3: But I mean, I have to say he's very he's
Speaker 3: very talented, but I don't think to your point, he
Speaker 3: hasn't done anything. And then to then lower himself to
Speaker 3: sort of accuse Natalie Hart. From all accounts, I don't
Speaker 3: know Natalie personally. I know Charlie knew Natalie. I believe
Speaker 3: Jack knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe you do.
Speaker 3: From all accounts, she's just like a total sweetheart and
Speaker 3: does not deserve to be smeared like this. It's alleging
Speaker 3: some sort of untoward relationship with the President of the
Speaker 3: United States. She's one of his aides that travels with him. Yes,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of trust there, but that was completely
Speaker 3: below the belt pun intended. I suppose I thought it
Speaker 3: was so unbecoming to allege this of somebody that really
Speaker 3: does not deserve that kind of insinuation.
Speaker 2: Sean. Yeah.
Speaker 12: I mean, she's a woman, by the way, who's alive
Speaker 12: today because Trump signed the right to try legislation into
Speaker 12: law that allowed her to get a trial to cure
Speaker 12: her bone cancer. So yeah, turns out she's a big
Speaker 12: fan of Trump because he did things that allowed her
Speaker 12: to still be alive. And the thing about Ostoff is,
Speaker 12: and it tells you his character, he probably had no
Speaker 12: idea what he was talking about. These guys don't write
Speaker 12: their speeches, they're professional line readers. So he goes up
Speaker 12: there and it's on the prompter and he reads it
Speaker 12: with all, you know, the gravity and the low baritone
Speaker 12: of Obama, with the you know, perfect dramatic pauses and everything.
Speaker 12: He has no clue what he's saying. And then when
Speaker 12: he's told, hey, it's totally dirty to do that, he
Speaker 12: goes on He's like, oh no, no, Well, I didn't
Speaker 12: say that other people are saying similar things. Well, shit,
Speaker 12: it's like a crappy thing to do.
Speaker 2: I totally agree.
Speaker 3: So Mark Kelly was asked about it, what about an
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Speaker 15: Last night, I was at my child's school function.
Speaker 7: It was called Rockthblock.
Speaker 15: I live in West with Indiana, and we ran into
Speaker 15: some lovely ladies of Churning Point and I want to
Speaker 15: talk about it. So, unbeknownst to me, Churning Point has
Speaker 15: high school chapters. The function last night was a back
Speaker 15: to school event. We walked over and I see a
Speaker 15: big old picture of Charlie Kirk. I'm already rolling my
Speaker 15: eyes because I'm already irritated by seeing his dumb face.
Speaker 15: So we walked by and they asked myself, he wants
Speaker 15: a bracelet. I grab his hand and I say no.
Speaker 15: The teenager that was working the food was such a
Speaker 15: and I turned around and I said, I don't like
Speaker 15: that you guys are supporting that piece of human talking
Speaker 15: about Charlie Kirk and usay Charlie Kirk naldrip for all
Speaker 15: the same. They're all supporting a rapist, racist, homophobic pieces,
Speaker 15: and so that's what I said.
Speaker 3: All right, So joining us now is the chapter of
Speaker 3: that school that you just saw that crazy lady doing
Speaker 3: a video on Sofia Hunt Chapter President, Westfield High School, Indiana,
Speaker 3: and you can find her on Instagram at Sofia Lily
Speaker 3: dot Hunt, So please support her. Sofia, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry first of all that you had to
Speaker 3: go through this. It just reminds me of when Charlie
Speaker 3: used to say, like our chapter leaders and our students
Speaker 3: are the tip of the spear. They're on the front lines,
Speaker 3: and you guys are doing such great work out there,
Speaker 3: and you were just taking part in it. Sounds like
Speaker 3: a back to school kind of gathering. Tell us give
Speaker 3: us the context of what happened here.
Speaker 7: So I was at my local back to school event.
Speaker 9: We call it Rock the Block in Westfield and it's
Speaker 9: where many of the Westfield organizations, businesses in different high
Speaker 9: school and even middle school clubs get to display their
Speaker 9: works what they're doing within their communities. And we had
Speaker 9: the most amazing opportunity to be able to have a
Speaker 9: booth at this event, Club America, and I was with
Speaker 9: my twenty point secretary and treasurer, and we were handing
Speaker 9: out the cutest red, white and blue bracelets, which I
Speaker 9: have right here. They did not have any political message
Speaker 9: on them. They were just spot in bulk from Amazon.
Speaker 9: And a little boy came up to our table trying
Speaker 9: to grab a bracelet. We pushed our basket closer to them,
Speaker 9: and a mom came and dragged them away. And I
Speaker 9: looked at the mother and very calmly, I said, hey,
Speaker 9: are you okay? And she goes, why the f are
Speaker 9: you asking me if I'm okay? I said, you're someone
Speaker 9: at a bracelet. Here is a bracelet and she goes,
Speaker 9: you guys are supporting a racist, disgusting piece of And
Speaker 9: I said, I am so sorry you feel that way.
Speaker 9: I hope you have a better day. And this is
Speaker 9: that she's walking away after slapping a bracelet out of
Speaker 9: my hand and.
Speaker 7: Turning point.
Speaker 9: Secretary looks back and she goes, actually, we're not sorry
Speaker 9: at all, and she goes, you guys are disgusting, your vile,
Speaker 9: and your supporting a racist, discussing piece of and then
Speaker 9: she walks away.
Speaker 7: So that was the entire interaction.
Speaker 9: But next day she came to the media for everything
Speaker 9: else that she had forgotten.
Speaker 2: To say, Yeah, well, that's what's so crazy about this.
Speaker 3: So and by the way, I don't get.
Speaker 4: Someone does that and thinks that's great. I should go
Speaker 4: online and tell everyone.
Speaker 2: That I did this.
Speaker 3: So this is Kaylee Joe, the Kaylee Joe or whatever
Speaker 3: it's like her Instagram or her or TikTok I believe anyways,
Speaker 3: and FI throw up one fifty one. This is so like,
Speaker 3: So here we have a like. You know, she's got
Speaker 3: thirty one thousand followers. She probably feels big time two
Speaker 3: million likes. So she's a content creator. This is what
Speaker 3: she actually wants to do with her time in life.
Speaker 3: Has her pronouns, has her pronouns on there of course,
Speaker 3: So this is like.
Speaker 2: There just needs you know, shoes.
Speaker 3: Everybody getting the ability to publish their their unfettered, unedited
Speaker 3: thoughts is just turning.
Speaker 2: Out to be a Really she's an ally. She has
Speaker 2: the BLM fists. She has uh. She says she's eighteen
Speaker 2: plus because she swears a lot.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. So here you go. We'll just get some
Speaker 3: more of this woman coming after. You're a minor. You're
Speaker 3: seventeen years old, right, you're in high school?
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm seventeen years old.
Speaker 9: I just finished high school after my junior year, so
Speaker 9: I should be a senior right now.
Speaker 7: I'm still young.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is nuts. People are losing their collective minds.
Speaker 15: So, nineteen, what's embarrassing is that you are a woman
Speaker 15: and you voted for Donald Trump. What's embarrassing is that
Speaker 15: your internalized misogyny is so through the roof and you
Speaker 15: probably don't even know what that means. What's embarrassing is
Speaker 15: that you call yourself a Christian and you're the furthest
Speaker 15: thing from Jesus' teaching. What's embarrassing is that someday you
Speaker 15: will have kids and they will not talk to you
Speaker 15: because they will see all your racist, homophobic post online.
Speaker 15: Along with Sophia and you guys can have each other.
Speaker 7: That is embarrassing.
Speaker 2: Who's she talking to right there? Someone called her embarrassment.
Speaker 9: That's actually one of your pick up the mic students, Hazel.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm on Hazel, Yeah great, that's yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 3: So that now she she defends herself by the way
Speaker 3: attacking a minor, so she's she's like fully aware of
Speaker 3: what she's doing that you are under eighteen, and she
Speaker 3: thinks this is completely okay, it's not twenty one.
Speaker 16: No, she's attacking a child, a poor little child.
Speaker 7: Why are you going after a literal child?
Speaker 16: Yes, I am going after a child who is the
Speaker 16: president of Turning Point and likes to post racist, homophobic,
Speaker 16: transphobic things on the internet. Oh my god, she is
Speaker 16: old enough to take such a strong political stance, then
Speaker 16: she is old to take some of the heat. She's
Speaker 16: a bully and she can't handle when she's getting a
Speaker 16: taste of her own medicine.
Speaker 2: Shut up, Okay, she's like getting any thoughts. She's getting
Speaker 2: dressed to me the bad guy.
Speaker 3: My first thought is like she's wearing a different outfit
Speaker 3: than the other videos, so she's just like droning on
Speaker 3: and on and on and on about this, like she's obsessed. Secondly,
Speaker 3: why do women and maybe Sophia you know, the to this.
Speaker 3: Why are they always doing tiktoks and Instagram videos doing
Speaker 3: their stinking makeup? I don't understand the phenomenon, and it
Speaker 3: just bothers me. That's the second thing. And then she
Speaker 3: has the gall to call you racist, homophobic, a bigot,
Speaker 3: and a bully. I'm sorry, but like just judging by
Speaker 3: your two demeanors. It's very clear to me who's behaving
Speaker 3: like a bully here? Have you said have you ever
Speaker 3: said anything racist?
Speaker 7: Sofia, not that I recall, I mean, I.
Speaker 3: Mean maybe to her standards, right, we all we all
Speaker 3: have this. So this is just a literal grown woman
Speaker 3: who has a child, who is taking to the internet
Speaker 3: as a content creator to smear you, slander you. And
Speaker 3: then she actually ends up accusing you of taking pictures
Speaker 3: in a bathroom or something.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 9: So that's the most serious false accusation I've had and
Speaker 9: quite quite.
Speaker 2: A long time, probably ever I would suspect.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Actually, so this actually, this rumor started about a year
Speaker 9: and a half ago. I have a feeling that some
Speaker 9: of the Democrat friends at school are contacting her saying
Speaker 9: these things.
Speaker 7: But here's what actually happened.
Speaker 9: I was in the bathroom at school, probably about a
Speaker 9: year ago.
Speaker 7: It was mid junior year, and.
Speaker 9: A male walked into the women's restroom while I was
Speaker 9: in the restroom. I walk out and I say, never
Speaker 9: come back to the women's restroom ever again.
Speaker 7: You were a man.
Speaker 9: Anyway, my friend comes back into the restroom after I
Speaker 9: had already left. I'd gone back to class, and she
Speaker 9: takes a photo of the student. She then sends it
Speaker 9: to said person who's posted the photo, in which it
Speaker 9: was not me.
Speaker 7: I did not take the photo.
Speaker 9: I did not even associate with the social media post
Speaker 9: that was made, So that was a complete lie. Nor
Speaker 9: would I ever take a photo of anyone in a bathroom.
Speaker 9: I mean, that's just inappropriate, no matter if you're a
Speaker 9: man or a woman. I mean, it's just weird. But
Speaker 9: that never happened.
Speaker 3: So then they somebody sends her this thing, and so
Speaker 3: that then she starts accusing you of this because some
Speaker 3: dude goes into a restroom a year ago and you
Speaker 3: were right to be upset about that. And y, yes,
Speaker 3: again you have a grown woman who thinks she's some
Speaker 3: TikTok star harassing a Turning Point student who's seventeen years
Speaker 3: old for tabling and handing out free bracelets to little
Speaker 3: kids who are asking like, that's what you're dealing with here?
Speaker 3: I I just I have so many problems with this.
Speaker 3: It's like difficult to begin to know where to begin here.
Speaker 3: Like I do want to just like ask you, though, sofa,
Speaker 3: are you are you doing okay?
Speaker 2: Are you dealing with this?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Okay, good, absolutely no, I'm not her at all. You can't.
Speaker 9: It would take an army to hurt my feelings. You
Speaker 9: can't do anything to bring.
Speaker 7: Me down, tear me down, tear my chapter down. I'm
Speaker 7: completely okay.
Speaker 9: I'm just I really hope this lady is okay, not
Speaker 9: only in her heart, but in her mind and within
Speaker 9: her own personal life. I'm just praying for her, but
Speaker 9: I'm completely okay.
Speaker 2: Oh man. I just I love a happy warrior.
Speaker 3: Yeah, amen, I'm I'm very encouraged by you, and I
Speaker 3: love your spirit. I love that you are a happy warrior.
Speaker 3: I love that you're leading and you're strong through this,
Speaker 3: and that these like crazy, unhinged adults who should know better,
Speaker 3: who are should be behaving with some dignity and some
Speaker 3: self respect, but just can't help themselves because they're narcissists
Speaker 3: who think their content creator and TikTok stars are harassing minors.
Speaker 3: And I hope, I hope. I hope your parents have
Speaker 3: your back. I hope your your chapter has your back
Speaker 3: and they're defending you and supporting you in this because
Speaker 3: we have your back one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: It's been a fast moving show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and lots of just lots of fun emails.
Speaker 2: Yes you want to read, get some Well.
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people were really fired up by
Speaker 4: that little bit we did on the fake poll where
Speaker 4: they're just pointing out this just sounds like it's a
Speaker 4: big prep for voter suppression stuff. For they could do
Speaker 4: some sort of election fraud stuff. They could do obviously,
Speaker 4: the the just outright fraud angle. You know, you goose
Speaker 4: someone's numbers and then you trade on the markets and
Speaker 4: cash in, and a lot of them like there should
Speaker 4: be fraud in this. Tons of emails about the Clancy case.
Speaker 4: Of course, some people saying why are you guys talking
Speaker 4: about this? Of course the left is nuts on this,
Speaker 4: but a lot of them saying this shows a lot
Speaker 4: of women are nuts, a lot of people are marinating
Speaker 4: in poison.
Speaker 3: We have a great young lady, Sophia Hunt with us.
Speaker 3: She's the chapter president Westfield High School in Indiana. Follow
Speaker 3: her support her online at sofia Lily dot Hunt. Okay, Sofia,
Speaker 3: you are not like these women supporting Lindsay Clancy.
Speaker 4: To me, it stood out to me there's such this
Speaker 4: inversion because historically we had pretty wise elders in America
Speaker 4: and so you'd think a woman of maybe a grandmother's
Speaker 4: age would be someone you could look to reliably for
Speaker 4: pretty good values, wisdom, And we're finally getting to the
Speaker 4: point where kind of the last generation, where the overwhelming
Speaker 4: majority of people were in pretty good shape in America,
Speaker 4: is unfortunately aging out. So now we have these ladies
Speaker 4: and where you have extremely unwise grown adults picking fights
Speaker 4: on TikTok with far wiser young ladies like yourself, who
Speaker 4: give us a lot of hope because we're definitely going
Speaker 4: to need ladies like you to save America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will, Sophia, tell us about you.
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, there's two questions, really, why you're involved
Speaker 3: with Turning Point?
Speaker 2: What Charlie meant to you?
Speaker 3: And then let's talk about the state of young women
Speaker 3: Erica today, because that's kind of been the topic of
Speaker 3: our conversation a lot during the show. But tell us
Speaker 3: first a Turning Point. How did you get involved in
Speaker 3: you know, what did Charlie mean to you?
Speaker 2: And how did he inspire you?
Speaker 9: I got involved first with Turning Point. I actually met
Speaker 9: a friend who was involved in Turning Point back in
Speaker 9: twenty twenty four when I competed at Miss Indiana, teen USA,
Speaker 9: and a friend prompted me to visit the Texas the
Speaker 9: US Summit, and from that summit is where you guys
Speaker 9: had an amazing field rep who got me connected with
Speaker 9: Turning Point, and I'm forever grateful for it. I have
Speaker 9: absolutely loved the Republican Party, Trump and just anything that
Speaker 9: had to do with pro life and just God first movements.
Speaker 7: Ever since the age of six.
Speaker 9: I mean, my mom and my dad they taught me
Speaker 9: that that was the center of what they really taught me.
Speaker 9: So that's a big part of why I joined Turning
Speaker 9: Point is because your guys' first priority is God, family,
Speaker 9: and country.
Speaker 7: And then Charlie he was just he just such a light.
Speaker 9: He was actually one of the main reasons I joined
Speaker 9: Turning Point as well, from watching his video after my
Speaker 9: friend had showed them to me many years ago, and
Speaker 9: just every opportunity I had to see him speak and
Speaker 9: even have the opportunity to have breakfast with him, he
Speaker 9: just he changes my mind completely on everything that I do.
Speaker 9: I mean, he's the reason I lead everything that I
Speaker 9: do with biblical context and to always leave my life
Speaker 9: with God. So Charlie is truly inspiring, and so is Erica.
Speaker 3: Yeah, amen, thank you for saying that. That's really it's
Speaker 3: great to hear. And you know, I got to work
Speaker 3: with him for eight years and Blake was always on
Speaker 3: the show and we were building this show with him,
Speaker 3: and it means a lot to us to hear your
Speaker 3: stories from students all across the country. So let's let's
Speaker 3: talk about the state of women right now. Like when
Speaker 3: you talk, when you think about your friends, maybe they're
Speaker 3: part of the club, maybe they're not, Maybe they're conservative,
Speaker 3: maybe they're progressive.
Speaker 4: How much of an outlier are you among girls your
Speaker 4: age in your I believe you're in a suburb north
Speaker 4: of Indianapolis.
Speaker 9: I would say, let's say in my school, I'd probably
Speaker 9: say I'm the only outspoken female conservative in my school
Speaker 9: in Hamilton County. I'd say there's probably about maybe eight
Speaker 9: to ten of us. And those are my friends that
Speaker 9: are in fact involved in Turning Point. But I mean,
Speaker 9: conservatism's rising, and especially in my school, I've been able
Speaker 9: to see so many students who weren't speaking out prior
Speaker 9: that are now speaking up. They're willing to listen to
Speaker 9: others and hear their perspectives just because of Turning Point.
Speaker 9: USA and bringing Club America to our high school. I mean,
Speaker 9: it's truly amazing to see.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's awesome. Are you now the women in general?
Speaker 9: Though?
Speaker 3: I mean I hear a lot from young people that
Speaker 3: dating is hard, that the expectations from the two sexes
Speaker 3: are like completely out of alignment, that social media complicates everything.
Speaker 3: Are you seeing that kind of that? The gender war
Speaker 3: aspect between men and women?
Speaker 9: I mean, I think that social media does take a
Speaker 9: big toll within relationships and actually with the worldly values
Speaker 9: that social media is teaching people, and it is bringing
Speaker 9: farther people farther away from God.
Speaker 7: But that can have a toll.
Speaker 9: But I also think the movement of like Turning Point USA,
Speaker 9: and this movement has really caused so many people to
Speaker 9: also shift back to the right, shift back to God's
Speaker 9: centered relationships. So I can't say it's going downhill because
Speaker 9: Turning Point's impact is honestly bigger than people think, no
Speaker 9: matter if it's only for right wingers, but it's also
Speaker 9: I think with people on the left, they're coming to
Speaker 9: God as well, and I think Turning Point USA has
Speaker 9: a big part of that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome to hear.
Speaker 3: You know, we talk about you see this gal coming
Speaker 3: after you on TikTok, she's completely unhinged. You know, we're
Speaker 3: seeing this what I call like the moral inversion, where
Speaker 3: you know, you know, it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 3: the Bible verse, like woe and to you calls good
Speaker 3: evil and evil good, and we're seeing that happen in
Speaker 3: a lot of different instances. Are you concerned about that?
Speaker 3: When you look across your friend group or your school
Speaker 3: and maybe your school is just like doing great and
Speaker 3: it doesn't sound it sounds like maybe a mixed bag,
Speaker 3: But are you worried about that?
Speaker 2: Are you? Because the social.
Speaker 3: Media brain, meme brain is something because young people are
Speaker 3: constantly consuming social media and it's so much of it
Speaker 3: is meme culture now, so I'm just where are the
Speaker 3: values coming from.
Speaker 9: I'm not worried about myself, although I sometimes do worry
Speaker 9: for others, because so many people don't have the circle
Speaker 9: that I had the opportunity to grow up with and
Speaker 9: that I had the opportunity to be rounded by. And
Speaker 9: social media does take a large toll in how people
Speaker 9: are acting, how people are creating.
Speaker 7: Their own moral compass, so it can be concerning.
Speaker 9: But I also do believe that God is There's been
Speaker 9: a huge revival and God is truly coming back into
Speaker 9: our schools. I mean it's now required for the Ten
Speaker 9: Commandments to be in school. So I don't have much
Speaker 9: concern because I know God has has away and he
Speaker 9: will make things happen.
Speaker 3: Well, you are a breath of fresh air. I will
Speaker 3: tell you that. Sophia Chapter President, Westfield High School in Indiana.
Speaker 3: Follower on Instagram, Sofia Lily dot Hunt, thank you for everything, genuinely,
Speaker 3: thank you for your leadership. Thank you for being brave
Speaker 3: and being courageous and cheerful and cheerful and a happy warrior,
Speaker 3: being optimistic. Listen, I'm telling you Turning Points students are
Speaker 3: the best students in the country. I've met so many
Speaker 3: of you now and literally, yeah, it's praised me to God.
Speaker 2: It's all God. Charlie played such a.
Speaker 3: Huge role in forming a whole generation's worldview and the
Speaker 3: way that they saw this country where they see their
Speaker 3: faith and they're rolling it and be a part of
Speaker 3: something bigger and to contribute and be part of the solution.
Speaker 3: Don't be a complainer. So God bless you for being
Speaker 3: such a great representative of Turning Point and your Christian
Speaker 3: faith and stand up, you know, keep standing brave and
Speaker 3: strong in the face of these bullies. They're they're going
Speaker 3: nowhere that leads to nowhere. Okay, you so much TikTok likes,
Speaker 3: but yeah, God bless you Sophia, and thanks you.
Speaker 7: God bless you all. Thank you guys so much.
Speaker 3: All right, man, if you were black pilling, students like
Speaker 3: Sophia Hunt will give you faith in the future.
Speaker 2: God bless her. For more on many of these stories
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