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In's August eighteen, twenty twenty six. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:23.479 We're here at the yre FI Studios in Phoenix, Arizona. 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.080 It's great to be with all of you. Had a busy, 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.880 busy morning and excited to get into the news here. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:30.480 Blake, how we doing. We're doing good. 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.479 We're doing good even though the world seems insane. Right 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:34.800 So in this center. 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:38.160 That is the lead today that the world feels upside 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.480 down in so many different ways, and we're going to 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.000 get into it in this first hour, in multiple different 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.160 from multiple different vantage points. What we're seeing with the 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:52.200 Lindsay Clancy story is probably exhibit A. We talked about 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.760 that yesterday. Of course, Lindsay Clancy is the woman that 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:58.280 is not even accused. She's admitted that she strangled her 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:03.040 three children, and yet the Internet is awash with people 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.840 defending her, sympathizing with her, raising money for her. It's 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.079 about a million bucks now on this gofund me, which 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.560 is just it's a whole other story. But there is 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:17.680 another example that is coming out from the UK, and 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:18.559 it's something. 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.800 We talked about, yeah, briefly last week. We wanted to 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.680 talk about it more. We had Chris rufo On and 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.079 we asked him a bit and it was the case 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.480 of Cambridge professor Jason Ardey, And so our day was 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.120 an education professor who started to get a lot of attention. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:36.080 Late July, a blogger Nathan Kaufnis wrote an article on 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.000 subtech that basically said, this guy is a celebrity professor. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.160 He was the youngest full Cambridge professor in the school's 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.519 thousand year history. And he said, this guy is a plagiarist, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.000 he's a fabulouist, and the school is protecting him. And 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.320 this could have been a pretty quiet scandal, I think, 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:53.680 except a ton of academics came out signed a big 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:57.080 letter saying any attacks on Professor Arde are racist and 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:58.080 bad and you guys. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.880 Should all shut up. And that got more attention. 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:03.280 The press started to write more about it, and they 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:07.320 discovered everything about this guy's life was a fraud. He 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.360 had all of these spectacular claims, like he basically had 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.720 Munchausen syndrome if you're familiar with that, where you fake illnesses. 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.240 So he was saying he was said he wasn't able 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:19.080 to he was like nonverbal until he was a teenager, 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.040 that he couldn't read or write until he was eighteen, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.040 but then got a PhD. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:24.720 He said that he had. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.800 Like an accident and had locked in syndrome where he 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:30.360 was totally paralyzed except for his eyes for six months. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.760 All of these spectacular claims that could be verified. Finally 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:36.600 the heat got too much and he resigned his professorship. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.440 But then this took a very dark turn on Friday 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:40.600 last week. 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.120 Because he was found dead. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.280 It's very likely that he killed himself, yes, and that 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.800 is a huge tragedy. But where this has taken a 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.600 dark turn, especially because it is the UK, is thousands 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.480 of people are rallying out in public you can show 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:59.800 that be roll and signing petitions and saying the media 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.360 lynched this professor out of racism because he was black, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.760 that we need to have controls on the press, and like, 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.960 let's be clear, it is sad this young man well 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.600 actually I say he's older than me. It's sad this 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:18.040 man killed himself. He should not have done that. But nevertheless, 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.760 you don't have the right to lie. This man was 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.520 a fraudulent academic. We have accounts from the students at 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:28.839 the school that he was a terrible professor because he. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.039 Couldn't teach them anything. 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:33.120 And if he faced any press back pushback, he would 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:36.200 accuse them of racism. He would threaten to call the 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:39.280 police on reporters who investigated him. This was a guy 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.359 who should not have had his job, but now because 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.320 he has, frankly in a narcissistic way, once he was exposed, 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:50.920 he ended his life. He's kind of everyone's rallying behind him. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.440 They're donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to a fundraiser 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:57.640 for him. Much like in the Clancy case. They're demanding 0:04:57.640 --> 0:05:00.760 more censorship, they're demanding more crackdowns on the rights of bach. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.039 It's actually even worse than that. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.440 So our day after he killed himself, you know, yeah, 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.479 You've get this huge gathering in the UK of a 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:12.680 bunch of I would say DEI supporters, leftist radicals. But 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.120 when this would get exposed, when he would get called 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:20.560 out on his serial fraud, he would sick police and 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.039 lawyers on journalists. So this has been going on. They've 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.520 been trying to expose this for a while. Everybody's coming 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:29.760 after this whole crowd. Every time Nathan Kaufness's name is 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:32.479 brought up by the show his picture there, This poor 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.440 guy is being demonized for exposing fraud. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:36.880 What what do you want? 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.880 Do you do you not want fraud exposed in academy 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.760 because it happens a lot. People are fraudulent, they're plagiarists. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:48.480 We saw this with the Harvard president, Clouding Gay, I think, 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:49.239 and they're. 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.240 Totally doing these character assassinations of him because coffness. So 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.599 he wasn't academic. He was driven out because he wrote 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.200 controversial stuff about racial differences, about IQ stuff kind of 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.880 kind of similar to what Steve Saylor writes, remember having 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:03.680 him on, and so they're just saying this guy is 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.679 a racist. Well the answer to that is who cares? 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:10.640 This guy exposed a plagiarist and a fraudster, which all 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.760 of you knew about. All of you could have stopped 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.520 at any time, and you chose not to. So he 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:21.400 showed that Cambridge and the British academic apparatus is fraudulent 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:22.240 and discredited. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.840 Yeah, well, so a couple things can be true and 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.080 the Internet struggles with this. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:26.480 Right. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:30.880 His apparent suicide is sad and tragic, there's no doubt. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:37.200 But don't blame the press. Don't blame the academic that 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.039 exposed it. By the way, he was very happy to 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:42.920 be the darling of the of the media when things 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.479 were good, when they were lotting him, when they were 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:49.560 propping him up into this position. Right, Don't blame the academic. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.440 This guy's getting villainized now, character assassination against him. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.760 Blame Cambridge, Blame our dae. 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.400 Himself, Blame drugs if they were involved in his in 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.479 his suicide, or blame the cis that propped a man 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.960 up into a position that he never should have been there. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.120 If he would have never been the Cambridge Dei darling, 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:08.200 he'd still be alive today. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.960 He probably would be good comparison. If you guys haven't 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.280 followed this story. He tried to pull a Justsey Smolette 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.680 style like fake hate crest, where he said people were 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.880 sending like cut off pigs heads from a butcher shop 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.640 to his doorstop. He said a white person menaced him 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.160 with a knife. He was claiming these things and when 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:29.680 The Guardian, a left wing newspaper in Britain, investigated this 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.160 and found no evidence for it, they contacted him and 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.800 he replied, honestly, I thought you'd just believe me, and 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.080 so let's imagine Jesse Smolette. His story was really funny, 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.280 it was very humiliating, it messed up his career. Let's 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.760 say he killed himself as part of that. Would that 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:48.440 suddenly make what he did acceptable? Absolutely not, Absolutely not. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.480 And if people had demanded censorship of the American press 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.800 over this, if they'd said any of the people who 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:56.760 said Jesse Smolett's hate crime was fake, that those people 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.520 should be denounced as racists, that they're bad people for 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.400 doing that, that would be insane and we would have 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.160 to push back on it. And we have to push 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.520 back on it here because we were talking about this today. 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.440 This links so much with the Lindsay Clancy case, and 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:16.480 both of these cases feel like a culmination of having 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:21.240 left wing assumptions about the world that it elevates people 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:26.120 who are who poor victimhood on themselves and they. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:27.800 Use it to hurt other people. 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:30.840 Even especially when they're hurting other people, it just makes 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:35.200 them more victims. That Lindsay Clancy is somehow more worthy 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.360 of money and love and respect because she did the 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.800 most atrocious thing possible, which is kill your own children. 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.599 Yeah, well, our dae was a fraud. We have to 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.120 keep this the truth, the truth. The truth has to 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.640 remain the truth. He's a serial hoaxer, a con artist, 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:51.600 and he presumably took his own life, okay, when that 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.880 fraud was exposed. If that ends up being true, that 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:58.000 is suicide. It's either the result of severe mental illness, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.319 and yeah, that deserves help, passion and all those things 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:06.880 and treatment. But it's also possibly the ultimate act of 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:11.640 cowardice in a long list of cowardly acts by this man. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.960 So now he because he does this, it's in a 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.959 weird perverse way, almost like a final act of control 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.520 over a situation that had become uncontrollable for him, where 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:26.120 he now gets to have ultimate victim status because he 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.240 was so put upon that he took his own life, 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.600 and that should not be celebrated or lauded or lifted 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:35.319 up as somehow an ideal or a good thing. The 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.440 moral inversion that is happening on so many of these 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:43.640 cases is bonkers, and it is a really troubling sign 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:49.280 that we're falling victim to it. So there is a 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:54.760 crazy story about the big polling misses that we've seen 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.680 in some of these especially dsas. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.920 A consequential polling. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:03.400 Miss I mean, we're talking like what misses for the 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:06.760 ages These are historic throughout one fifty six. This is 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.880 from bright Bar Polling Firms showing Karen Bass Francesca Hong 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:15.640 in lead. Admits fake polls. Short term social media experiment 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.600 is what they're calling it, So basically, a fake polling 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.840 firm projecting Los Angeles mayor Karen Bass and Wisconsin Democrats 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:26.760 socialist scubatorial candidate Francesca Hong with leads over their opponent 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.560 admits these were fake polls as part of a short 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.599 term social media experiment. In a statement posted to the 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.360 website for Median Strategies, the fake polling firm explained it 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:39.880 has concluded its polling project and will not publish additional polls. 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.400 It also says all previously published polling releases have been 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.079 withdrawn and should not be cited or treated as genuine 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:47.720 as polling. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.600 It was part of a short term experiment examining how 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:54.560 purported polling information could enter and spread through the political 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:59.360 information ecosystem without independent verification. And you mentioned the Los 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.600 Angeles one, but the even more monumental one is they 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:06.360 put out a poll that showed the Democrat socialist Francesca 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.920 Hong way out in front in that governor's primary, and 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.000 that had consequences because we were discussing this with Tyler 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.320 to this affect the race, because it looked like Hong, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.800 if she won that primary, would have been at a 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.360 pretty big disadvantage compared to any other Democrat and the 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:23.040 governor's race, and might help us in all the other 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.559 races in that state. And I'll be frank, I think 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.600 a lot of Republicans we went really wild making fun 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.000 of Hong and getting really committed to her and assuming 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.719 she was the nominee because her rivals had dropped out 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:36.760 and she was way a help in these polls. And 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:39.440 then she lost and now we're stuck with no Hong, 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:42.280 and ah, we wish she was running in the actual race. 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.720 I mean, yeah, I do think that it probably doesn't 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.199 bode well for Tom Tiffany going up against somebody that's 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.040 been painted as a matter who's not a moderate. 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:52.559 None of them are. None of them are. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.679 But it's a branding. Branding matters, a lot matters. Branding matters, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.559 but the guys are total incompetent. Tom Tiffany should win that, 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:03.320 but it's you know, this is a mid term. Trump's 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.040 not on the ballot. The's a lot of headwinds. You 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.520 could still get this Crowley guy. But this is very 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.520 interesting because we have been told that the polls are 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.360 wrong when you're pulling MAGA, and now the polls are 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.559 going to be wrong when you're pulling DSA for similar 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:15.640 but inverted reasons. 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.000 You just might have pollsters who put out fa fake poles. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.720 This almost feels like it should be illegal, like it's 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.760 some form of fraud on the public, especially when you 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.160 have prediction markets as a factor that people react to 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:31.320 and stuff. It's very interesting because you could imagine someone 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.200 dresses up a whole fake polling firm and they do 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:37.360 a fraudulent pole just to shift one of those prediction markets, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:38.960 and you can cash in on a fake pole. 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:41.800 There's so much they do. 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:45.920 Yeah and yeah, there's a short term social media experiments 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.760 who said to examine how purported polling information could enter 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.840 and spread through the political information ecosystem. It's just wowd 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.320 They had hung up by twenty three points lead over 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.640 David Crowley and wisconsocupatorial primary media. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:58.679 I reported on it. 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.800 So this ended up getting injected into the veins of 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:08.040 the political media ecosystem, and then we actually have a 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.400 real race going on today in Florida that a lot 0:13:10.440 --> 0:13:14.600 of people are watching. Sort of related because in that race, 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.160 Byron Donalds is up big over James Fishback and some others. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:21.839 That's gonna happen today, Charlie, it should be noted endorse 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:25.240 Byron donald There's some very early, very early, and Byron's 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.480 been a guest on the show multiple times. But it's 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:32.280 been interesting race to observe from afar because James Fishback 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:36.720 has used very unorthodox strategies in order to sort of 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:37.840 attack Byron Donald's. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.680 He's called them some He's called them some agresto. 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.200 I don't think it would be I don't even think 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.480 he would necessarily disagree to say. He is the first 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.040 I don't know how else to put it, a groper 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.600 political candidate. He's very much leaned into that political brand. 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.480 If you check his list of endorsements, it's uh, the 0:13:54.720 --> 0:14:00.640 Nick Fuentes, Sneako, Andrew Tait, Hodge Twins, Carrie Preen Baller. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.400 Yeah, an interesting set of endorsements. So where's the race 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:05.840 at now? 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.320 According to the polls, the race is that Donald's is 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.000 way up. He generally has about fifty percent. There's another 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:17.040 guy something Collins. They can't just give me the which 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:21.240 Collins isn't here? Uh, let's see that is Jay Collins, 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.840 Jay Collins. He's getting like twenty they're saying Fishbock is 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.240 at seven eight percent. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.120 Yeah, I'm curious for this audience. Have you followed James 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:34.760 Fishback and Byron Donald's the race? It's been very, very contested, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.960 controversial on social media. Are you guys aware of it? 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.400 Have you followed it? Did his messaging pierce through? Because 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.560 what we're seeing with this race is very much a 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:48.480 generational divide where gen Z is very very aware. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:49.040 Of James Fishback. 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.760 He puts out TikTok videos with like zero messaging, just 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.560 synth music, and apparently that that. 0:14:54.600 --> 0:14:57.240 Works with gen Z. I've talked to some of our students. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.000 They're they're following this very closely, I will tell you, 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.800 But Byron Donalds is running away with it. It seems 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:09.560 so really the intrigue here is can an upstart, as 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.520 you said, like sort of a groper gubernatorial candidate who, 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.040 by the way, had been on this show before early 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.880 on Adams. Fishback came on the show because he was 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.720 part of a debate society that was trying to It 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.120 was called incubate debate. 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:24.760 And then the next thing I. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.760 Know he was he was involved in investing, and then 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.000 he was like I saw him on like Stuve Varney's show, 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:31.600 and then he was running for governor. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.360 All within the kids done. He's done a. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.440 Lot of dramatic things and he gets that what's interesting. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.800 About other people married? Really he got married very abruptly. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.440 He's he did a whole stunt where he said he 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.880 wasn't going to pay his lawyer because his lawyer lost, 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.000 and so he says, you only should pay your lawyer 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.800 when you win. I believe that he's been ordered by 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:54.000 a court to pay his lawyer. So he's There's various 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.920 i'll be blunt, scam adjacent stuff that he has done. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.600 And yet he has a certain political talent where he 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.200 got a lot of attention because he'll come out and 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.160 he'll say there's tons of racism. 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:05.920 Against young white men and we should fight against that. 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.240 So it's one of those things where he'll say stuff 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.520 that in isolation really impresses you, and then he'll do 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.920 other stuff where you roll your eyes and go, what 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:15.600 does this guy do? 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.080 Yeah, I have a massive amount of respect for just 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:22.160 the creativity I will say when people kind of come 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.520 in and they shift a mode of the way of 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:29.560 doing things that I have legitimately been impressed by. 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It's great to see you. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.560 I just want to say when I saw you at 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.040 the Women's Leadership Summit, I couldn't get over just how 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:11.960 much those young women look up to you. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.159 They love listening to you. You had them wrapped. Their 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:16.719 attention was just fixed on you. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.199 So I just I hope people realize, like a what 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.200 a leading voice you are in this space Students for Life. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.159 You were fighting for the unborn, and we appreciate the 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.680 work you do. I want to start maybe this feels 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:31.919 inverted to you, but this is why I reached out first, 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.440 and we've been talking this hour with the moral inversion 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:37.600 that we're seeing in it seems like the way so 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:42.040 all of a sudden, Lindsey Clancy is the victim and 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.480 she's almost there's almost a million dollars raised for her. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:49.280 But you said the way that conservative men online are 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:53.440 talking about it is not productive, and so you share 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.840 that's she's guilty of a serious crime here obviously and 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:00.080 should be held accountable. So you know, kudos forgetting it 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.159 the basics right, But why are we talking about this 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.040 in a way that is counterproductive? 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.040 I want to hear your pov. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:06.600 Sure. 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.600 I mean, I think it's we need to win female voters. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.640 It's not I don't think shocking Andrew for us understand 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:16.399 that the GOP needs female voters and we tend to 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.840 have a problem with female voters when it comes to 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:20.000 key election years. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:21.800 This is not the way. 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.200 Well, we're seeing a lot of concern men talking about 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:28.439 postpartum depression to postpartum psychosis as if it's like a 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.200 made up thing that women don't experience. This like that's 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:36.359 not helpful to the conversation. What Lindsay did is horrific 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.399 and she should spend the rest of her life locked 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.240 up for killing her three children. They are the real 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.679 victims in this situation. But I don't understand why we 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:48.359 have all this going on. We still haven't passed to 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.840 Save America Act. We have the midterms, we have critical 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.520 primaries happening, for example today in Wyoming, a runoff next 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.479 week in South Carolina. Why are we finding the time 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:02.359 as conservatives, especially men, to then debate about whether or 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:07.320 not postpartum depression is real? Postpartum depression is real. Having 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:11.760 that conversation as men, sorry, can turn off women because 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.520 you haven't had a postpartum depression or experience this. And 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.320 I think every conservative man I know would agree with 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.200 me that men receiving female hormones, even men who think 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.960 that they're women, is a really bad idea. And we've 0:20:25.960 --> 0:20:30.480 been talking about that in our national conversation for years now, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:33.200 especially when you look at trans of violence, like it's 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.679 a really bad idea to inject female hormones into a 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.600 man just because a man feels like he's a woman. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.720 So we know these hormones are powerful, we know they 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:47.000