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Speaker 1: as the Dove a y'all for us for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I think he may still be the chief Foreign Affairs

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I want people to understand you've got a

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Speaker 1: up for it like I get it every single day.

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Speaker 1: And I want people to be smart. Shanada first, General

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Speaker 1: thirty thousand feet. Your assessment of the war after twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Days, well, I think that Iran's military capabilities you have

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Speaker 2: been degraded substantially.

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Speaker 3: I know that the Israeli.

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Speaker 2: Sources I'm speaking with are very happy with the results

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Speaker 2: of the United States and Israel have had in attacking

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Speaker 2: both the ballistic missile capabilities of Iran, it's nuclear installations,

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Speaker 2: but also the military apparatus of Iran. And what they're

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Speaker 2: saying you is that when the Iranians wake up after

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Speaker 2: this war, what they're going to discover is that they

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Speaker 2: don't have any military industry left, they don't have military

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Speaker 2: research facilities that they used to use in order to

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Speaker 2: develop nuclear weapons, and they're not going to have a

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Speaker 2: large chunk of whatever they thought they can use against

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Speaker 2: their neighbors now. Strategically speaking, and you know you read

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Speaker 2: my newsletter, I never sugarcoat I try to speak very clearly.

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Speaker 2: It's absolutely the case that this war is refocused around

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Speaker 2: the Strait of Homers and the need to open the

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Speaker 2: Strait of Homers for global energy. And I think that

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Speaker 2: the administration and Israel are very much focused at.

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Speaker 1: That my own personal view, and I've stated it, and

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Speaker 1: I talked to Earbot that what Montgomery is if that

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Speaker 1: has to stay closed for two months while this regime crumbles,

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Speaker 1: and it actually crumbles, that is well worth the cost

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Speaker 1: to the world in higher energy prices. Do you agree

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Speaker 1: with me if the regime is actually outstood by the

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Speaker 1: end of this, if it takes too much, would you mind?

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Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't mind personally, but I am not an

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing. The Strait isn't really closed. It's

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Speaker 2: close to those tankers that are affiliated with the West,

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Speaker 2: with the United States, with Europe. But the Iranians are

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Speaker 3: Barrels a day, and they're still exporting.

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Speaker 2: They're controlling the Strait, and this is an impossibility even

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Speaker 2: for other golf countries. This is the reason why golf

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Speaker 2: countries are now pressuring the sides that are fighting this

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Speaker 2: because that could be detrimental for their future in the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I read that Wall Street Journal. In fact, I

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Speaker 1: just played all right, we'll be playing after I talk

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Speaker 1: with you, a piece that I did with Dana Prino

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Speaker 1: today saying conference NBS and NBZ and the UAE, they

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that Iran is on its knees,

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Speaker 1: if not crushed by the end of it. What is

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Speaker 1: your definition of your minimal definition of success? Big success

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Speaker 1: is regime change? What's the deminimus You think Israel has

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that, but Israel needs to get already

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Speaker 2: got it degraded the military capabilities of Iran. Of course,

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Speaker 2: And the thing is that the person calling the shorts

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Speaker 2: because of the ultimatum and because of the announcement made

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Speaker 2: The US wants to get a good agreement with Iran.

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Speaker 2: Of course, if you get those hundreds of kilograms of

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Speaker 2: And I'm listening to what the President said at the

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Speaker 2: terms of their abilities, and these abilities have been substantially degraded.

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Speaker 2: What would be the strategic situation after the war.

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Speaker 3: That's a good question.

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Speaker 2: And if the Uranians feel that they want this, that

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Speaker 2: going to be a problem here. But you this administration

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Speaker 2: and according to the public statements by this administration, I

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Speaker 1: And I agree with that, and I don't even think

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Speaker 1: which the JGPOA did not provide for Nonada. If you're

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Speaker 1: one of those annoying people, I can't tell if you're

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Speaker 1: want to know how many wars you've covered.

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Speaker 3: I'm forty seven.

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Speaker 2: And the first conflict that I covered was the Second

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Speaker 2: Intifada that broke out, as people that probably remember in

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Speaker 2: the year two thousand after the failed attempt in Kim David,

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Speaker 3: Covered the Lebanon War.

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Speaker 2: Even before that, I even went into Lebanon during the

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Speaker 1: In the second segment, I want to talk to you

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Speaker 1: second segment. But my big question. You're an experienced guy

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Speaker 1: how does the last twenty five days rank in terms

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Speaker 1: of impressiveness of interoperability of militaries that are I know

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Speaker 1: that the US and the Israelis have trained a little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is amazing in terms of just the joint

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Speaker 2: and hundreds of aeroplanes can fly at once. People here hundreds,

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Speaker 3: Of course, the US could do this alone and will be.

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Speaker 2: Much more powerful than any other country in the world

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Speaker 2: also if you look at other wars, it's the first

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Speaker 2: future strategically of the region. Iran has been supporting terror

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Speaker 2: And here the United States is definitely making a stand

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Speaker 2: one of my experiences is someone who's been covering wars,

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Speaker 2: the truth. I know it's annoying, but we need to

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Speaker 3: I'll just give you one example. I know it's a

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Speaker 2: Everybody's saying, Oh, now, the Ranians have used the straight

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Speaker 2: straight of fur Moose. And technically that's true, but they

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Speaker 2: They have used their final threat. Strategically speaking, they can't

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Speaker 2: do this again. They cannot do this again, and all

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Speaker 1: And I do think they also showed us who they are.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely no, you know, never never think that the president

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Speaker 1: How do people sign up for that? Nadad?

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Speaker 1: That is terrific because it's very very good. Now I

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Speaker 1: got two questions in eight minutes, hesba Lah and how

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Speaker 1: long Israel is going to have to stay? Are they

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Speaker 1: going to occupy what is it? One hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: I'm definitely not going to sit on your show and say, oh, Natanieo,

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Speaker 1: All right, my very last question, I can't care enough

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Speaker 1: It's a genuine pivot point, and I appreciate your taking

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Speaker 1: back and back tap you. Hewett joined by Michael Duncan,

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Speaker 1: don't know that I've talked to you since Indiana University,

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Speaker 4: Yes, Hugh, thank you for the congratulations. You know, if

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Speaker 1: Next question, you guys the fellow. We're pretty hard on

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Speaker 1: You look behind me and there's a set. It's the

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 4: of the audience. So they can change the format however

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Speaker 4: they want. They can change the background or put it

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Speaker 4: in someone's office. I don't think it's going to change

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Speaker 4: the outcome, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think that spartan is the new look, and I

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Speaker 1: like the ruthless set because it is spartan and there

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Speaker 1: is nothing to distract from the fact when you guys

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Speaker 1: are laughing and you see your expression. So I think

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Speaker 1: they made a mistake at CNN. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that to wish that Jake Ill because of my rules.

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Speaker 1: I just think that clean is better.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: Now I want to go to a serious subject, you guys.

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Speaker 1: Filleid Chuck Schumer today, but not as bad as John Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: He was asked by Dana and Bill this morning about

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer's explanation of why DHS is shut down. Here

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Speaker 1: is what Senator Kennedy said, cut number four.

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Speaker 6: He's lined, He's line like fish swim.

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Speaker 1: Now, Michael Duncan, is that how senators talk about senators? Usually?

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Speaker 6: That's how John Kennedy talks.

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Speaker 4: And you know, he has a zinger for everyone, which

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Speaker 4: I appreciate, and I think he's cut to the heart

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Speaker 4: of the matter here. I don't know that Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 4: knows what Chuck Schumer's doing anymore. And this goes back

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Speaker 4: aways Hugh. We've been talking about it for a year

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Speaker 4: on the Ruthless Variety program, back in the initial funding.

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Speaker 6: Fight on the budget a year ago.

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Speaker 4: This time, you know, he was holding out for something,

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Speaker 4: and eventually he concedes, and the left side of his

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Speaker 4: party goes crazy, right, and he doesn't know how to

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Speaker 4: contain the energy on the left because the entire party's

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Speaker 4: captured by.

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Speaker 6: The left wing lunatics. And so then what does he do.

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Speaker 4: He goes and he shuts down the government, ostensibly for

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Speaker 4: Obamacare subsidies right last fall, holds it longest government shut

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Speaker 4: down in American history, goes right up through that Virginia election,

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Speaker 4: if you recall, and then it sort of Peters out

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Speaker 4: for no reason exactly. They didn't get what they wanted,

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Speaker 4: and now he's shut down the government again on DHS

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Speaker 4: to provide the left flank what they want. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: inspire a lot of confidence in the future of his leadership.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's a zombie leader? In other words,

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Speaker 1: he's moving forward, he's acting like a leader, but it's

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Speaker 1: really over. He's dead. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I tend to agree with the reporting we saw in

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Speaker 4: the Wall Street Journal last weekend from Shabon Hughes and

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Speaker 4: Eliza Collins, who are well sourced when it comes to

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Speaker 4: democratic leadership and Democrats in the United States Senate.

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Speaker 6: You may recall Shabon Hughes was also on the.

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Speaker 4: Byeline for a lot of that early Biden reporting about

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Speaker 4: does he have it anymore? Is he going to have

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Speaker 4: to step aside for Kamala Harris, And she got lambasted

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Speaker 4: by the left wing media, but she had the story first.

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Speaker 4: So I trust that they're very well sourced in this case.

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Speaker 4: And it seems like Chris Murphy is on the rise

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Speaker 4: in the Democratic conference in the United States Senate, trying

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Speaker 4: to start this so called fight club. You know, we

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Speaker 4: don't talk about fight club but we meet at French

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Speaker 4: restaurants in Georgetown and talk about.

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Speaker 6: How we need a new leader in the Democratic Conference.

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Speaker 1: French toast. It was a good segment. It was a

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Speaker 1: really good show today. Now I have an appeal to

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Speaker 1: make to the fellas. How many of you live in Virginia?

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Speaker 6: Three of us?

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Speaker 1: All right? Those three? Oh, that's right, smack Junoth Carolinia.

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Speaker 1: It's a nightmare if this initiative passes. Are you guys

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Speaker 1: going to throw in and get the minions to go

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Speaker 1: to work to vote no on this initiative before I

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Speaker 1: think April twenty first, we've got a defeat. That it's

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Speaker 1: suicide for Virginia to go from a six to five

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Speaker 1: delegation to at tend one. They'll never get anything again

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Speaker 1: from a Republican Congress if they do this.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you're absolutely right, Hugh, and I'm sure

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Speaker 4: we're going to have more people on to discuss this

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Speaker 4: redissearching fight in Virginia. We did cover it earlier on

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Speaker 4: on the program where we played some of the ads

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Speaker 4: from this so called you know Virginians for Fair Elections

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Speaker 4: group that the Democrats stood up and they're showing ads

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Speaker 4: of Barack Obama talking about how they're named to jerrymander

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Speaker 4: the state. It's offensive, and I think on the airwaves

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Speaker 4: they're leading seventeen to one in spending, so they're up

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Speaker 4: you know, Republicans are up against it in this fight.

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Speaker 4: But there's a lot of whispers among Democrats in the

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Speaker 4: state that this isn't exactly a done deal. So you know,

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Speaker 4: Republicans in state need to run through the finish line

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Speaker 4: on this thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's really stupid, don't you agree, as a matter

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Speaker 1: of just doing well by your state. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to go from a six' five delegation which is needed

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Speaker 1: by both, parties to attend one delegation which basically doesn't

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Speaker 1: exist for The republicans, anymore like being In. California nobody

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Speaker 1: cares About california.

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Speaker 4: Anymore, well and the other, Thing hugh, is if you

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Speaker 4: watch any of the, ads it doesn't really pass the sniff, test.

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Speaker 4: Right they're, like we need to read district the state

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Speaker 4: ten to one For democrats to restore.

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Speaker 6: Fairness It's. Orwellian it doesn't make any.

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Speaker 4: Sense so for your average citizen who watches these, ads they're,

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Speaker 4: like what the heck is?

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Speaker 2: This?

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Speaker 1: OKAY i haven't seen the ads, yet BUT i. WILL

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Speaker 1: i will watch them with. Interest Michael, duncan proud I

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Speaker 1: u alum and supporter Of Sarah lawrence and Brnmar thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining me to welcome back To, America Hugh

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Speaker 1: hewan on The Salem New, channel The Salem Radio network

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Speaker 1: and all of our wonderful radio, Affiliates coach To coast

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Speaker 1: And Music. Means David drucker is in the. House you

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Speaker 1: can follow him On. Exit DAVID. M, Drucker chief Political

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Speaker 1: Corse planet for The. Dispatch, david what are the politics

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Speaker 1: of the war With? Iran which is going very very

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Speaker 1: well in the war. Part i'm not sure if the

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Speaker 1: media is covering it, though like we're, winning which.

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Speaker 7: We, Are, Yes, HUGH i don't think much has, changed.

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Speaker 7: RIGHT i Think republicans are largely, SUPPORTIVE i mean pretty

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Speaker 7: overwhelmingly support of. Independence are on the negative, Side democrats

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00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 7: are obviously overwhelmingly. AGAINST i think part of the issue

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Speaker 7: is the administration keeps shifting its, objectives and there could

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Speaker 7: be multiple, objectives but they're all being sort of described

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Speaker 7: as this is the objective, today this is another objective.

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Speaker 7: Tomorrow i'm not trying to be critical here but to.

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Speaker 7: EXPLAIN i think why you know there isn't broader support

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Speaker 7: for the progress of the war because nobody really knows

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Speaker 7: what to make of the, progress because they don't know

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Speaker 7: what it's supposed to. Mean and, remember The president launched

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Speaker 7: this war without preparing The american public or building a.

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Speaker 7: Case it doesn't mean there isn't a. Case you AND

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Speaker 7: i have discussed the fact that there's a really good

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Speaker 7: case for. It but when you don't prepare the public

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Speaker 7: and begin to sell and explain to the public why

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Speaker 7: you might do this and what the case, IS i

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Speaker 7: think it's hard for it's hard to expect people to

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Speaker 7: jump on, board particularly when they don't quite know what

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Speaker 7: victory looks, like even if as is very, clear we're

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Speaker 7: winning military haraily from day.

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Speaker 1: To day, NOW i watch every Cent com, release EVERY idf,

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Speaker 1: release every statement by The, President secretary Of, Rubio secretary Heag,

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Speaker 1: seth The admiral of The. GENERAL i watch it. ALL

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Speaker 1: i think the objectives are pretty. Clear destroy the nuclear weapons,

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Speaker 1: program get the enriched uranium out Of, iran destroy their

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Speaker 1: ability to make war on their, neighbors and degrade their repressive.

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Speaker 1: Apparatus though not necessarily regime, change and of course now

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Speaker 1: open the strait of horror moves so that people that

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Speaker 1: can pass through five. OBJECTIVES i think they've achieved three

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Speaker 1: out of five. Already the admiral said yesterday we sunk

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Speaker 1: one hundred and Forty iranian. Ships do you see public

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Speaker 1: opinion changing the more that it becomes. CLEAR i don't

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Speaker 1: think the media is. Helping they're not doing the patriotic.

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Speaker 1: THING i, MEAN i really don't think they're being. Patriotic

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Speaker 1: but in the, end it will be the results that

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Speaker 1: speak for. Themselves do you think the public opinion will

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Speaker 1: change if they are successful in achieving those five?

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Speaker 7: Goals, possible but possibly. NOT i think WE'RE i think

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Speaker 7: time will, tell and we're just gonna have to. SEE i,

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Speaker 7: MEAN i think, AGAIN i think part of the issue

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Speaker 7: is you. Yourself they're very concisely and clearly and in

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Speaker 7: simple terms laid up five key, objectives, right but it's

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Speaker 7: not how it's being communicated in a unified way from the,

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Speaker 7: administration and particularly for the president who, has you, know

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Speaker 7: the bully, pulpit and a unique one at, that given

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Speaker 7: who he is and how he likes to. Communicate and,

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Speaker 7: LOOK i, Mean i've been as critical as anyone over

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Speaker 7: the years about media, bias particularly With republican, Administrations BUT i,

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Speaker 7: think you, know the media, is you, know just try

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Speaker 7: and ask a lot of tough. QUESTIONS i, mean even

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Speaker 7: the you, know so called maga aligned in the tank

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Speaker 7: press was asking questions early on Of Secretary hegseth that

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Speaker 7: he found offensive and didn't like, Answering and you, KNOW

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Speaker 7: i think that's just the sort of thing that happens in.

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Speaker 8: War you.

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Speaker 7: KNOW i think the priotic thing is if you've got

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Speaker 7: a scoop that could hurt the military objective and Put

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Speaker 7: american lives in, danger you hold the. News BUT i

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Speaker 7: think it's plenty patriotic to ask a lot of hard.

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Speaker 7: Questions and, AGAIN i think a lot of this could

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Speaker 7: have been solved if the president would have made a

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Speaker 7: case for the war leading up to the, war and

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Speaker 7: if he was as concise and consistent as you just

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Speaker 7: were with the.

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Speaker 1: Objectives, well, yeah WHAT i think is patriotic is to

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Speaker 1: ask tough questions about how long will it be for

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Speaker 1: the straight of hormments to be open and how difficult

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Speaker 1: will it? Be but also if there was a box

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Speaker 1: on every landing page that listed nine thousand military, strikes

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty ships, sunk just the statistics of the.

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Speaker 1: WAR i think that would be a fine way to. Go, Now,

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Speaker 1: david the next question is The. DEMOCRATS i have a

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Speaker 1: column In Fox news today The Republican President trump has

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Speaker 1: returned THE gop to The party Of defense and, deterrence

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Speaker 1: and The democrats are. Pacifists are just. PACIFISTS i don't

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Speaker 1: think they'll ever fight a war, again AND i don't

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna lose. That what do you THINK.

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Speaker 5: I mean ever?

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Speaker 7: AGAIN i don't want to say anything ever, again, RIGHT i,

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Speaker 7: mean how Many, republicans or let's just put it this,

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Speaker 7: way how many of the sort of populist right were

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Speaker 7: convinced that That President trump was going to be the

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Speaker 7: one president that they could take to the, bank would

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Speaker 7: never launch a war Against, iran never mind the case for,

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Speaker 7: it which you AND i have discussed. Repeatedly they were

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Speaker 7: convinced here's the one guy that wasn't going to be

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Speaker 7: the so called neokon. Warmonger and now he's doing what you,

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Speaker 7: know previous presidents before, Him democrat And, republican declined to do.

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Speaker 7: SO i don't like to say never. Again and you

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Speaker 7: just don't know what's going to. HAPPEN i don't know

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Speaker 7: that the breath of The Democratic party are pacifist by any.

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Speaker 7: STRETCH i, mean they're, clearly over the years and my,

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Speaker 7: lifetime have been more suspicious of Projecting american, power more

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Speaker 7: hesitant to Project american power than The. Republicans we saw

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Speaker 7: With President Joe biden, repeatedly you, know warning The israelis

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Speaker 7: and even talking ABOUT us policy in terms of being

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Speaker 7: concerned about, escalation like somehow everybody else is allowed to

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Speaker 7: escalate except for. Us so you, Know i'm not surprised

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Speaker 7: to See democrats opposing everything That President trump, does AND

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Speaker 7: i just think that time will tell in terms of

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Speaker 7: where these parties are.

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Speaker 1: POSITIONED i was On Fox days this. Morning John Fetter

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Speaker 1: meanan was on before me said he would like to

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Speaker 1: see The iranian regime. Destroyed SO i don't want to

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Speaker 1: say All, democrats BUT i Believe John fetterman will be

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Speaker 1: the Only democrat to vote for the supplemental of two

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Speaker 1: hundred billion? Dollars AM i? Wrong will anyone else vote for?

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Speaker 1: That on The democratic?

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Speaker 7: Side IT'S i, mean who, know it's maybe one or,

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Speaker 7: two probably, Not but look we've seen a lot of hesitancy.

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Speaker 8: Over the past ten to twenty.

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Speaker 7: Years, WELL i should say post a rock a rock

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Speaker 7: two thousand and. Three we have seen the political parties

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Speaker 7: hesitant to support another president and war. AIMS i remember

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Speaker 7: during The obama, administration and of course this was a

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Speaker 7: sleight of hand on his, part but he, said, Fine

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Speaker 7: i'll enforce my red line In syria If congress puts

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Speaker 7: it up for a vote And republicans refused to support.

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Speaker 1: It and by the, Way.

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Speaker 7: Senator Tom cotton and Then Congressman Mike pompeo famously wrote

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Speaker 7: a joint op ed, saying, yeah we Oppose obama on

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Speaker 7: basically everything and don't trust, them but we need to

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Speaker 7: enforce An american red. Line so we should all vote

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Speaker 7: for this As, republicans and they were the, minority so you,

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Speaker 7: know some of this is just par for the. Course

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Speaker 7: BUT i don't dispute your larger characterization of Where democrats

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Speaker 7: have been historically on national.

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Speaker 1: Security, yeah AND i think the branding on this is

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Speaker 1: going to last a long. Time they are not going

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Speaker 1: to protect the country and they are not going to

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Speaker 1: protect their. Allies they are. Pacifist you don't agree with That,

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Speaker 1: DAVID i understand that those are my words about The Democratic,

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Speaker 1: party Not DAVID. M, duckers BUT i thank you for joining.

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Speaker 1: Me foul him on. Exit DAVID. M drucker read them

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Speaker 1: in the dispatch and come back to THE uit show

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Speaker 1: for radio affiliates from east to, west north to. South

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Speaker 1: i'm starting this hour With Mike, rogers the Future senator

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Speaker 1: from the great state Of, michigan and he's a FORMER

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Speaker 1: fbi agent, firm member of The, house and for our present,

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Speaker 1: purposes the past chair of The House Intel. Committee Mike,

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Speaker 1: rodgers you know The iran file very very. Well what

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Speaker 1: do you make of the war that we're.

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Speaker 5: In, well it's probably long.

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Speaker 9: Overdue WHAT i think a lot of people don't realize

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Speaker 9: is between twenty three and twenty five they STRUCK us,

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Speaker 9: interests including Killed american service members over two hundred and nineteen.

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Speaker 9: TIMES i think the number was somewhere around. There so

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Speaker 9: they've been at this for a. While back WHEN i

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Speaker 9: left being, Chairman hugh's three parts of a nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 9: Program one is, enrichment one is forming the enriched uranium

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Speaker 9: to fit on top of a, missile and the last

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Speaker 9: part is a missile. Program they had all three of.

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Speaker 9: Those so the big debate back then was how long

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Speaker 9: does it taken to put them all. Together so when

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Speaker 9: you think about how they've escalated contact and doing bad

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Speaker 9: things in The Middle, east paid For hamas to go Into,

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Speaker 9: israel paid for hes blood of fire missiles Into, israel

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Speaker 9: paid for The huthies to attack commercial ships going through The,

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Speaker 9: STRAITS i think this is putting an end to. War

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Speaker 9: and none of this is ever, pleasant none of it

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Speaker 9: is ever. Easy but degrading their capability to do all

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Speaker 9: of those, things a nuclear weapon, program a ballistic missile,

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Speaker 9: program a drone, program mining The, straits their capabilities going

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Speaker 9: after all of the factories that build missiles and drones

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Speaker 9: and other, things that's a huge wind for security in the.

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Speaker 9: Region and if that's the one thing that we get,

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Speaker 9: done which is the president's original state, intent that's a

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Speaker 9: good day for security in the.

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Speaker 1: World, now when you were Running intel and when you

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Speaker 1: were at The, bureau you also dealt with sleeper cells

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Speaker 1: and the problem we have in The United. States can

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Speaker 1: you believe THE dhs has shuttered at this period of

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Speaker 1: time Because democrats don't want to FUND ice even THOUGH

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Speaker 1: ice is. Funded, yeah just AND.

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Speaker 9: I have a hard time reconciling the fact that they're

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Speaker 9: basically shilling for illegal immigrants who are criminals over A

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Speaker 9: us citizen tax being citizens.

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Speaker 5: Who are whose safety may be in.

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Speaker 9: PERIL i don't understand how they could pick a fight

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Speaker 9: like this and look themselves in the.

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Speaker 5: Mirror number.

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Speaker 9: One number, two they shouldn't be paid if they're going

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Speaker 9: to make use pay as a.

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Speaker 5: Weapon guess what you ought to be hurt by that thing.

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Speaker 9: Too you shouldn't be paid if you're a member Of

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Speaker 9: congress in The senate and not funding these, programs especially

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Speaker 9: FOR tsa. Agents they've lost over four hundred. Agents they

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Speaker 9: can't make. It, remember these folks aren't highly, paid and

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Speaker 9: so they're having a hard time paying their. Bills at

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Speaker 9: the end of the, month they had to go find other.

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Speaker 9: Works so we're now we're going to be down another

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Speaker 9: five hundred or four hundred and SOME tsa. Agents some

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Speaker 9: of them were sleeping in their, cars you because they

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Speaker 9: couldn't afford a gas go back and. Forth but they

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Speaker 9: were trying to do the right thing up for. Work

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Speaker 9: others were giving plasma to get money to show up for.

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Speaker 9: Work this is, crazy it's. Dangerous it tells you how

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Speaker 9: RADICAL i think the left has. BECOME i, mean they've

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Speaker 9: been voted last week not to deport illegal immigrants who

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Speaker 9: attack and kick and beat law enforcement. DOGS i, mean

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Speaker 9: this is HOW i JUST i think the left has

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Speaker 9: really lost their.

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Speaker 1: Mind, well let me pray for, You senator Christ murphia

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Speaker 1: will be your colleague in a. Year ON MS now

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Speaker 1: last night With Chris hayes cut number, eight.

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Speaker 8: The negotiation didn't have a path of.

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Speaker 2: Citizenship it was entirely on their terms in order to

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Speaker 2: Get ukraine.

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Speaker 6: Funding.

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Speaker 10: Right, WELL i, Mean, chris that's been a failed play

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Speaker 10: for twenty. Years so you are right that that has

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Speaker 10: been The democratic strategy for thirty years, maybe and it

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Speaker 10: has failed to deliver for the people we care about,

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Speaker 10: most to the Undocumented americans that are in this.

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Speaker 1: Country all, Right, So Mike, rogers the people we care

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Speaker 1: about the, most the undocumented people who are in this.

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Speaker 1: Country are you going to use that in your? AD

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Speaker 1: i know you're not running Against Chris, murphy but well he.

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Speaker 9: Has he has endorsed one of my opponents for, Sure

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Speaker 9: AND i think all of this is fair. Game WHEN

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Speaker 9: aoc was in the hallway and they filmed the clip

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Speaker 9: of her, saying, hey we have to hurt lower and

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Speaker 9: middle class people the most in order to get where

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Speaker 9: we want to.

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Speaker 5: Go now you Have Chris murphy, saying we care more.

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Speaker 9: About undocumented workers or legal immigrants here in this country

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Speaker 9: than we do citizens who have been here in paying

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Speaker 9: taxes and fighting the good fight in a free market.

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Speaker 5: Economy, boy, again all of, THIS i think is going

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Speaker 5: to be fair.

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Speaker 9: Game and what we have to remember right, now they're

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Speaker 9: trying to have one, card hate On trump and hate

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Speaker 9: Everything trump. Does but you, know we're going to remind

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Speaker 9: people remember what happened in that four. Years fifty percent

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Speaker 9: increase in government, spending nine percent inflation rates where you

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Speaker 9: could really did have to decide between gasoline and. Food

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Speaker 9: the fact that they have raised the national debt so

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Speaker 9: much so fast that now the interest payment is bigger

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Speaker 9: than The department Of. Defense all of, that to me

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Speaker 9: is fair. Game and we're going to have to Remind,

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Speaker 9: americas do you want to go back to. That they're

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Speaker 9: still talking about putting men in girls' locker. Rooms they're

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Speaker 9: still talking about raising your. Taxes now they're even talking

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Speaker 9: about if you own property over seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 9: thousand dollars and live In New.

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Speaker 5: York guess what the government gets to take the rest of.

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Speaker 5: IT i, mean it is the same.

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Speaker 9: Old, democrats only. Worse and now we've just got to

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Speaker 9: make the case to Mister ganders here at.

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Speaker 5: Home.

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Speaker 1: Now your website Is rogersfirsenate dot. COM R o g

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Speaker 1: E r s no D R o g e r

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Speaker 1: Asfor senate dot. Com tell me about the race you've.

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Speaker 1: Got you've got an open. Field you're The republican. Nominee

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Speaker 1: they're having a brawl on The democrat, side which you

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Speaker 1: must be. Enjoying how's that?

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Speaker 9: Going you, know we get some popcorn together and we

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Speaker 9: enjoy the show as much as we can when we're

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Speaker 9: not at, work and to tell people what we're going

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Speaker 9: to do positively for the. State this is a huge

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Speaker 9: opportunity In, michigan AND i hope your listeners and viewers

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Speaker 9: understand how important that. Is we're beating head to head

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Speaker 9: all three of The democrats who are vying for Their

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Speaker 9: democrat nomination and it's springtime In. Michigan that's huge for,

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Speaker 9: us gives us a huge, advantage and they're going to

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Speaker 9: fight that, Fight, hugh all the way Till august and

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Speaker 9: so and they just.

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Speaker 5: Keep going more.

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Speaker 9: Left matter of, Fact Abdul Lsi ed just came out and, said,

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Speaker 9: well it's okay that the guy attacked the temple, here

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Speaker 9: The jewish temple here because there was a war going.

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Speaker 9: ON i, mean it's just unbelievable how left they're going

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Speaker 9: to endorse By Bernie, sanders of, course and so the

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Speaker 9: same with the other. Two they just can't wait to

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Speaker 9: get more one left of each other and just the

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Speaker 9: wrong direction for working. People so we're going to let

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Speaker 9: them point out why they're not right For, michigan and

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Speaker 9: we're going to run aroun on the state and twelve

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Speaker 9: people why we are right For. Michigan and we're we're

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Speaker 9: pretty excited about, that and we're started.

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Speaker 5: Early we're out. There we're going to hit doors next.

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Speaker 9: Month we actually started some even this last, weekend just

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Speaker 9: to you, know test our you, know stretch our muscles

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Speaker 9: a little. Bit we're going to be on the ground

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Speaker 9: talking to real, voters talking about real, problems talking about

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Speaker 9: real solutions all the way Through. November and they're just

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Speaker 9: hacking each other up here between now And. August so

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Speaker 9: if you're A rogers.

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Speaker 5: And, yes this would BE.

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Speaker 1: I tell everyone a ten dollars contribution. Matters if we Win,

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Speaker 1: Michigan we're not going to lose The senate at ten

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Speaker 1: to twenty at twenty five, dollars con are you getting?

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Speaker 1: Those because small donors direct To rogers For senate Dot.

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Speaker 1: Com don't give it to a, pack give it To

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Speaker 1: Mike ROGERS R O G E R s Four senate dot.

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Speaker 1: Com explain to people why it matters small.

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Speaker 9: Donors, yeah because of volume. Matters so if you get

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Speaker 9: one hundred thousand people and everybody gets that ten twenty

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Speaker 9: five to fifty dollars or even you know they're going

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Speaker 9: to get to, fifty and they do it over a

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Speaker 9: couple of, months massively important in future just. Cash why

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Speaker 9: those dollars are called hard dollars is because they're hard to,

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Speaker 9: get and that's what a candidate control our message ON.

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Speaker 9: Tv you, know packs are great for what they, are

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Speaker 9: but we don't control that. Message we controlled this, message

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Speaker 9: and we're talking about things that matter to people here In,

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Speaker 9: michigan and we target it so that ten dollars helps

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Speaker 9: us get ON, Tv that ten dollars helps us put

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Speaker 9: a field person in the up The Upper peninsula Of

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Speaker 9: michigan on The canadian border up there to work and

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Speaker 9: go door to door and organize voters and so and

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Speaker 9: that's why every one of those contributions matters for.

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Speaker 1: Us, Oh, MICHAELOW i didn't know this for the longest.

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Speaker 1: Time To Vice President vance actually explained it to. ME

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Speaker 1: i did not know that you with hard dollars are

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Speaker 1: entitled to buy the lowest rate on the rate card

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Speaker 9: So not only does early money, matter the earlier we

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Speaker 9: Earlier that's why sending money in early to the campaign

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Speaker 9: congested kind of state Like.

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Speaker 5: Michigan we have four media, markets so this is going

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Speaker 9: Important and the more we can buy and more our

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Speaker 9: message gets, out the closer we're going to get to

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Speaker 9: victory On november.

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Speaker 5: Sixth so that ten dollars is really like one hundred.

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Speaker 9: It and so please don't think for one minute those

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Speaker 9: Country this is not just, yes this is The michigan,

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Speaker 9: seat but this is for the. Country we Win, michigan

890
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Speaker 9: they can The democrats cannot take back The. Senate really

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Speaker 9: important bottom.

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Speaker 1: Line AND i want to point one more thing. Out

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Speaker 1: when you come back next, time let's talk about Ann.

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Speaker 1: ARBOR i went lived there for three. YEARS i want

895
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Speaker 1: to know how you're going to attack Ann arbor because

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Speaker 1: there are votes. There they're pretty hard to, find but

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Speaker 1: there are votes. There Mike, rodgers always good to see your.

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Speaker 1: Congressman cannot wait to have you back in The United States.

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Speaker 1: Senate welcome back In. America I'm HUGH Hewittt, Byron New

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Speaker 1: york is the chief political correspondent For The Washington, Examiner

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Speaker 1: Fox news correspondent as well Contributor. BYRON i just had

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Speaker 1: a caller asked me rather unexpectedly in this hour as

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Speaker 1: we approach our two undred and fiftieth. Birthday why DO

904
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Speaker 1: i Love? AMERICA i came up with two, minutes So

905
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Speaker 1: i'm going to do it to. You why do you Love?

906
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Speaker 1: America you came.

907
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Speaker 11: Up with two full minutes doing it, Well, Yeah nach.

908
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Speaker 1: In debate and high School byron a minute xt. Time you.

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Speaker 11: KNOW i Love america BECAUSE i was born, here because

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Speaker 11: it has offered me the opportunity to live the life

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Speaker 11: THAT i would want to, live just as it's offered

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Speaker 11: other people to want the opportunity to live to live

913
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Speaker 11: the lives that they want to. LIVE i Love america

914
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Speaker 11: because my family has been here for a, long long,

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Speaker 11: time going back lots and lots of. GENERATIONS i Love

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Speaker 11: america because it has a political structure that has survived

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Speaker 11: for long for longer than any other similar political, structure

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Speaker 11: that has created a representational democracy that that actually, works

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Speaker 11: regardless of how many about.

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Speaker 1: It we are very. CLOSE i began by, SAYING i

921
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Speaker 1: love the fact THAT i can leave tomorrow and go

922
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Speaker 1: anywhere in the COUNTRY i want to go without anyone's.

923
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: PERMISSION i can quit a job and take a. JOB

924
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: i can move around the country. FREELY i can my

925
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Speaker 1: family can thrive and do whatever they. WANT i love

926
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Speaker 1: freedom AND i just can't imagine being In iranian getting

927
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Speaker 1: shot down in the street for. Marching it's really remarkable

928
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: we get to live. Here so it's a good. Question good. Question, So,

929
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Speaker 1: Byron i've also been asking do you think the president

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00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: has been clear in the objectives of this?

931
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Speaker 11: War you, KNOW i actually wrote about. This we see

932
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 11: a lot of polls where people where the poster, says

933
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 11: has the president been clear in explaining the goals of

934
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Speaker 11: the purpose and goals of the, war and you see.

935
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Speaker 11: Majorities i've seen a lot of numbers around sixty five

936
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Speaker 11: percent of the people say.

937
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Speaker 1: No so what does that?

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Speaker 11: Mean, well first of, all the president was not clear

939
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Speaker 11: at all before he did. It as a matter of,

940
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Speaker 11: fact the first time he actually starts laying out the

941
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Speaker 11: purpose of what he's done is in that video that

942
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Speaker 11: he releases at like two in the morning on the

943
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Speaker 11: morning of the attack. Itself so he didn't do a build,

944
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Speaker 11: up he didn't explain it going, in and SO i

945
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Speaker 11: think that a lot of people still sort of have that.

946
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Speaker 11: Feeling now since, then the administration is that they've kind

947
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Speaker 11: of gone over the map a little, bit but they've

948
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Speaker 11: basically focused on Eliminating iran's ballistic missile, capabilities eliminating their

949
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 11: nuclear weapon, capabilities eliminating their ability to fund proxies and

950
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Speaker 11: recavoc outside their. Borders so this has kind of become

951
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 11: the explanation that has been out, there and yet a

952
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 11: number of people either haven't gotten, it or or they've

953
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 11: heard it and they don't find it entirely. Satisfactory i'm

954
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 11: not sure WHAT i think it.

955
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: IS i don't think that they haven't heard. It they're.

956
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Speaker 1: NOT i would, add by the, way you always, said

957
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Speaker 1: we've got to get the new clear, dust and that

958
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: means the enriched. Uranium and to, me it's not a

959
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: success unless they get the nuclear, dust even if they're

960
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Speaker 1: bouncing the, rubble even if there's nothing, left and there's

961
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: not going to be much left by the end of,

962
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: IT i don't like the straight of horror. Moves is

963
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: that difficult of a military, problem Because i've talked to

964
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: admirals and they tell me it's.

965
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 11: Not what do you, think, ACTUALLY i think it's a

966
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 11: fairly big military. Problem we're certainly not ready to solve it.

967
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 11: Yet so and you don't know What iran is going

968
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 11: to do YET i, mean are they going to pull the?

969
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 11: Trigger we've talked theoretically about you, know any small water

970
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 11: drone can do, This any really small group can can

971
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Speaker 11: take out a billion dollar. Freighter and The president has

972
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Speaker 11: said this a lot of times that if you own

973
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Speaker 11: a billion dollar freighter right, now you're, thinking, well wait a,

974
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Speaker 11: while we can we can hang out for a. While

975
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Speaker 11: we don't want to be the first one through. This

976
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 11: so What iran is ready to do has not been. Tested.

977
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 1: Right have you followed that THE a Ten, warthogs which

978
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: is the infantry man's, friend have been destroying the proxies

979
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: Of iran In. Iraq they have a Hesba lah sort Of.

980
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: Hesbaala it's got three LETTERS pfm or something like THAT

981
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: fmp that is all Over iraq and they're in camps

982
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: and the warhogs are just straythen. Them it's like a

983
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: party for the warhog. People have you been following, that

984
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,959
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i think that's under.

985
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 11: Reported i've been following it a little. BIT i meant

986
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 11: you're right about the party, part because the warthog is

987
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 11: a craft that has a lot of fans and yet

988
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 11: always seems to have people who think it's too old

989
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 11: and needs to be discontinued and gotten rid of and

990
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 11: let's move, on and then it turns out to be

991
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 11: extremely valuable and whatever the next conflict. Is, yeah well

992
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 11: see now you know it's basically a cannon with, wings

993
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 11: a gatling. Gun, yes it's amazing it's a gatling, gun

994
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Speaker 11: because you think of the gatling gun in The Civil.

995
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 11: War but that's basically what it. Is seven hundred rounds

996
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 11: a second to some unbelievable amount of firepower in that.

997
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: Airplane and they've got this proxy organization again three. LETTERS

998
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: i think IT'S, pmf BUT i can't remember for. SURE

999
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: i do know WHEN i see it that there has

1000
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: be law In iraq and we're methodically destroying. Those SO

1001
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: i really do think he's doing a number On iran

1002
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: and they's not going to be much left. Now the

1003
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: bad news they promoted the hardest of the hardliner to

1004
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Speaker 1: the Lar jani, job a guy who was a veteran

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Speaker 1: of The Iran Iraq war eighty to eighty. Eight hard,

1006
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Speaker 1: bitten you, know walk through the minefield type of. Guy

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Speaker 1: they're not really sending forward the envoys of peace and.

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Speaker 1: Love i'm not an opt to miss about negotiations for

1009
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Speaker 1: three or four weeks and it might be a couple of.

1010
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: Months are you an? Optimist, No i'm.

1011
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 11: NOT i, mean you, know here you hear the president

1012
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Speaker 11: talk about the Villains venezuela, model which and basically what

1013
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Speaker 11: he's saying, is if we can just find the right

1014
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1015
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Speaker 11: Forward we don't have to completely eliminate this. Regime we

1016
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 11: can go forward with people who will work with us

1017
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 11: and the change of run in the. Future that's A venezuela.

1018
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Speaker 11: Model Now i'm not an expert on these, things BUT

1019
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Speaker 11: i think there's a difference between dealing with kleptocrats and

1020
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Speaker 11: dealing with, martyrs you know. Exactly and then In iran

1021
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Speaker 11: you're dealing with people who sort of perfected the suicide.

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Speaker 1: to wall one hundred. Percent every station in The United

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00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: states not so. Much are you surprised by how little

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00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: we're kind of following the?

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Speaker 8: WAR i am very much. SO i remember My Gold

1078
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 8: center there is The First Golf war where it was.

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00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 8: Constant it was twenty four to. Seven it seemed there's

1080
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 8: always breaking gongs and breaking news and flags flopping across the,

1081
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 8: screen and it seemed as if it occupied the entirety

1082
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 8: of The american. Imagination you, know The Second Golf, war

1083
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 8: same thing pretty. Much but this just has oddly receded

1084
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 8: to a series, of you, know headlines that are maybe

1085
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 8: two or three times down when you go to Your

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00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 8: google news, piece because you, know the first we've Got

1087
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 8: Taylor swift AND i was his new, tour and then below,

1088
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 8: that you KNOW radi AN ircg headquartered bomb into atoms

1089
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 8: for the seventeen consecutive. Days it's, inexplicable, Really and Maybe

1090
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 8: i'm just not looking close. Enough maybe if there was

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00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 8: such a thing as, newspapers which don't seem to exist

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00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 8: very much in, perfusion it would be there as batter

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00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 8: headlines every. Day but even, SO i tend to think

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00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 8: that it would recede. IT i find it odd that

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00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 8: The american imagination is not fired by this in a

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00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 8: way that it previously. Has AND i don't know when

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00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 8: to describe.

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00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: That to how you use the success of The american,

1099
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: military as far as you understand, it you don't have both.

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: Civilians we don't really know what they're. Doing we just,

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00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: Watch so how do you describe what you're?

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00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 8: Seeing, well part of it, IS i, mean it used

1103
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 8: to be that we would be awed by the site

1104
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 8: of The tomahawk missile going through the window and a

1105
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 8: couple of guys, startled look, up and then it's. Static

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00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 8: so we got used to that an awful long time.

1107
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 8: Ago we got used to endless number of little videos

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00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 8: in Our twitter. Feed when that came along of things

1109
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 8: blooming the night and, exploding, well we don't. Have the

1110
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 8: only innovation there seems to be in this one is

1111
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 8: the breaking of the spine of An iranian. Ship that

1112
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 8: was something that was quite. Novel but we're used to.

1113
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 8: Perfection it seems like we're so used to perfection and

1114
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 8: an absolute lack of casualties that when a plane does

1115
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 8: go down a bit, startled things like, Oh barksdale got

1116
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 8: swarmed by some drones don't seem to cause the fear

1117
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 8: and penning that they might because we have this general

1118
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 8: feeling we have, this and we also have one of

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00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 8: the most lethal and effective partners that we've ever had no.

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Speaker 8: War so, again there's no triumphalism. Here there's no great

1121
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 8: sense of we're just kicking, ass kicking, button taking. Names

1122
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 8: BUT i guess now we're bored with how good we,

1123
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 8: are which is.

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00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: US i don't think we. ARE i think that the

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00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: media has been taken over by a left wing cadre,

1126
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: legacy big media that doesn't really Want america to kick,

1127
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: button take names and win decisively over the course of two.

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00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: Months BECAUSE i see defeatism in the military and almost

1129
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: every story there's a twist to it that makes it

1130
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: sound like it's not going as well as it should.

1131
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: Be and, boy The straits of Where, moses it's not

1132
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: The battle of The, atlantic thirty five hundred ships went.

1133
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: Down i'm just extraordinarily sunned by what people consider to Be,

1134
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: yeah The straits, closed we pay a little bit more for.

1135
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: Gas that's not what our parents put up.

1136
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 8: WITH i agree that the media has THIS defeati sit

1137
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 8: into it and has always had this. DEFEATISTOTE i remember

1138
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 8: during The First Gulf war that there was a shot

1139
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 8: before they went to a commercial of a pilot landing

1140
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 8: and they played this, sad sodden, music this sort of

1141
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 8: echoee trumpet minor key patents soundtrack, stuff as the pilot's

1142
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 8: had dipped down like, this and the feeling you were

1143
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 8: supposed to get was that he was burdened by the

1144
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 8: enormity of his mission and the destruction and the senselessness

1145
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 8: of it, all when he's probably just looking at a

1146
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 8: checklist or flipping something. Off but they slow mode and

1147
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 8: make it sound defeated and full of unst and the

1148
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 8: rest of. It So i'm used to, That but that's

1149
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 8: different FROM i mean if people were out there clamoring for,

1150
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 8: more if people were out there actually wanting, more you

1151
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 8: would think that elements in the media would be smart

1152
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 8: enough to, Say, hey this is what we can do for.

1153
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 8: Ratings we can start giving them, more we can stop

1154
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 8: putting a negative spin on. Everyone you would think, so

1155
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 8: but there. Isn't i'm not sure that there necessarily is

1156
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 8: that clamor of the media because what people want they

1157
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 8: can generally get from social, media and it may not

1158
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 8: always be. RIGHT i, mean people who were fell for

1159
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 8: a line about the head of the the IR gc

1160
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 8: bugging out For, london and it was obvious from the guy's.

1161
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 8: Name it was almost like an under the bleacher By

1162
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 8: Seymour butt's kind of. Name it was one of those

1163
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 8: names and people fell for. It so the single noise

1164
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 8: ratio can get a little.

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01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: Bad on the one true, STORY i want to know

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01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: if you saw, it because you're, observant The ukrainians hit

1167
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: a gas facility In russia that was thousand miles. AWAY i,

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01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: mean it was so far. Away no one Ever they're

1169
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: doing amazing stuff and we're not. Covering we used to

1170
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: love The. Ukrainians what happened? There, oh they were not

1171
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: the next. Best they're not the greatest thing.

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01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 8: Anymore it Was ukraine was the latest, thing and Then

1173
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 8: ice was latest, thing and now this is the latest.

1174
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 8: Thing except it seems seems to be going. Well and

1175
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 8: since it's off, stage the usual people who get spun

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 8: up and go downtown with the pre printed little slogans

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01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 8: and wave them around aren't. Engaged and that's. GOOD i,

1178
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 8: mean the fact that we have not had that as

1179
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 8: many of the inorganic here's your poster go out there

1180
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 8: and yell. Situations that's probably. Good but you're. RIGHT i,

1181
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 8: mean there are Two titanic conflicts.

1182
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: Going on right.

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01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 8: Now ukraine is one of. Them even though it's been

1184
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 8: a long time and it's dragging and it's a meat.

1185
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 8: Grinder they've been pounding and kicking butt on on The

1186
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 8: Eastern front and the attempts to stabilize and replace the

1187
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 8: regime Of. Iran these are big, struggles extraordinary, struggles and

1188
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 8: you would, think, yes that they, would they would occupy

1189
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 8: the public mind and as such be reflected in the.

1190
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 8: Media but because they're not reflected in the, MEDIA i

1191
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 8: think it's partially a reflection of the fact that a

1192
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 8: lot of, people for whatever reason just aren't as invaded

1193
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 8: in this as they have been. Previously that might be

1194
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 8: just my, take but that's WHAT i. Get if we, lose.

1195
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: If we lose our capacity to recognize world historical, events

1196
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: AND i don't use that phrase, Lightly, Russia ukraine and

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01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: the war Against iran are both world historical. Events will

1198
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: we have the ability to ever really understand proportionality and? News?

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Speaker 8: AH i don't. KNOW i mean we look back and

1200
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 8: we see united. Cultures we see people that, were you,

1201
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 8: know shoulder to shoulder, marching doing their victory gardens and

1202
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 8: the rest of. It but there was domestic. Discord there

1203
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 8: were people who just paid it no. Mind there you,

1204
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 8: know before the war and in the run up to,

1205
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 8: it it was all in the, air but there were

1206
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 8: people who did not want to face the titanic nature

1207
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 8: of the class that was. Coming so, retroactively it may

1208
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 8: look better than it actually, was but probably you're, right

1209
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 8: not like it is. Today we need to be reminded

1210
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 8: that this is, thing and that's where the bully pulpit comes.

1211
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 8: IN i wish there was more bully pulpitism where we

1212
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 8: were getting, strong, decisive concisive speeches about what's going. On

1213
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 8: and in the absence of, that perhaps that's. People perhaps

1214
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 8: people concluded it's just it's it's not as. Important if it,

1215
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 8: was we'd be hearing bully pulpit speeches more than we.

1216
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: ARE i, HOPE i hope they're coming. Back JAMES, lylyx thank.

1217
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 1: You follow them on, Subtack James lyles dot subtact dot,

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01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: com and on Xat. Lilacs stay, Tuned america in piculate