1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Life audio. 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: What if instead of living in fear when it comes 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: to the end times in the second Coming of Christ, 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: we could live a life of righteousness, devotion and expectancy today. 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: That is what John Bevie and I talk about in 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: this week's episode Let's dive in. Hello, Hello, Hello, ladies 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: and gents, and welcome to this week's episode of The 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: Bottan Beloved Podcast. As always, it's your girl Kirby Kelly 9 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: back at it again and I am stoked, like absolutely excited, 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: on fire, so pumped for today's discussion and topic, but 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 2: more importantly my guests that I have today, John Bevie, Like, 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 2: I've looked up to this man. I've read it multiple 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: of his books, so many of them, and his wives 14 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: and his children's friends with some of them even, and 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: it's just really cool to have him on today to 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: talk about his newest book, which WHI actually out today 17 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: and it's called The King Is Coming. It's time to 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: prepare for the Return of Christ. And I'm like, how 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: many of us have doom scrolled on social media and 20 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: have heard about the end times? And maybe you're like 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: I want to flee from this conversation, or maybe you're 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: like I am locked into this, but you have some 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: confusion around it. We are here today to dispel the fear, 24 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: dispel the confusion, and tap into discernment and what scripture 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 2: says about it. But before we do that, John, welcome 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: to the podcast. Thanks for being here. Can you just 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: briefly introduce yourself in a little bit about you know 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: who you are and what you do for the people 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: who might not know who you are and what you 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: do well. 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: First of all, Kirby, I want to say how honored 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: I am to be on your program, and that is 33 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: probably one of the sweetest introductions I've gotten all year. Said, 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being so kind, and yes, 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean to your listeners. I am a very, very 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: happily married man to Lisa Bevie. We've been married for 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: to four years this year. We have four sons who 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: are all in their thirties, and we have ten G babies. 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: What is a G baby. I'm way too young to 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: be grandpa, so it's G daddy in G for sure. 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: So Lisa and I have been writing for almost thirty 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: five years. Yeah, it is thirty five years ago when 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: God told me to write my first book. My worst 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: subject in high school was English and creative writing. And 45 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: so when God spoke to me and said, son, I 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: want you to write, I was like, you got the 47 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: wrong boy. I flunked the sat the Act in English. 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: It took me four hours to write a one page paper. 49 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: He didn't agree with what my rebuttal and it's you know, 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting. Ten months later, two women from two 51 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: different states came up to me and said, if you 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: don't right what God's giving you to write, He'll give 53 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: the message to somebody else and one day you'll stand 54 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: in judgment. Well, I mean, Kirby. Now, the books, sir, 55 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: have been sold I think pushing or just over ten million, 56 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: and they're in one hundred and forty six languages. So 57 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: nobody he knows more than me. Why my name's on 58 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: that book. I was first got to get to read it. 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: If God can talk through a donkey, he can write 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: through a guy who flunked his English. So anyway, here 61 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: we are, and we are talking about something so important, 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: and that is the second Coming of Jesus. Come on, 63 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: and I'm excited about. 64 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: It me too. I think that this is something, especially 65 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: even when I think about last year, there was like 66 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: this whole scare on TikTok. I don't know if you 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: heard about it. We saw about it where it was like, yes, 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: all these end times, you know, preachers saying that this 69 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: is the day, this is the time, And I'm like, 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 2: how many times have we gone through this? Like I 71 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: remember twenty twelve, like the whole thing with like the 72 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: mind calendar, it's the end of the world, and it's 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: like even with y two k it's like the turning 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: of the clocks. It's going to be the end of 75 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: the world. And so many people flock to fear or 76 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: don't even know how to discern what scripture says about it, 77 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: because it feels almost like mystical. This apocalyptic language is 78 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: prophetic language that we that we see and we read 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: through the Old Testament and also the New Testament. So 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what prompted you specifically to want to dive 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: into this subject and to provide clarity to this subject 82 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: right here and right now. 83 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 1: Okay, honest disclosure, you and I had the same battle. 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so funny. Last August I was doing 85 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: the the some of the promo work for this. I said, yeah, 86 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: people were predicting dates for years and I started naming 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: all the dates, and I said, yeah, in September twenty third, 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Well, my team was just rolling. They 89 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: were like, you actually said it was wrong a month before. 90 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: I said, of course it is. There is not a 91 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: man on the planet or a woman on the planet 92 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: that will predict this date. If Jesus doesn't know it, 93 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: the angels don't know it. Who is this guy to 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: say he knows it? But anyway, that's another thing. But 95 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: that's that's how it started with us. When Lisa and 96 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I were young married couple back in the nineteen eighties, 97 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: were in a very big church, and this guy, Eggar 98 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: Weinstatt wrote the book eighty eight Reasons of Why Jesus 99 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: Was Coming Back in September nineteen eighty eight, and I 100 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: bought its hook line and sinker. So I wasn't as 101 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: smart as you, Kirby, So my wife didn't, all my 102 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: friends did. We were like so excited. Well it came. 103 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: The day came and went, and I started doing analysis, okay, 104 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: because I you know, I have an engineering training, and 105 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: so I'm going to analyze right the fruit I saw 106 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: I did not like. I saw people stop paying their 107 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: credit cards, their mortgages. They were eating now any food 108 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: they could because didn't care about it. They weren't taking 109 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: care of themselves. They stopped going to the gym. I mean, 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I could go on and on and on. So I 111 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: did you know something wrong? I recoiled and I went 112 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: four decades and didn't preach a message on the Second Coming. 113 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: People came up to me and go, don't you preach 114 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: on the Second Coming? I said, now I'm not called 115 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: to it. Well, in twenty twenty, the spirit of God 116 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: started dealing with me personally. Now I thought this was 117 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: just me personally, and he was drawing me to start 118 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: really diving into eschatology. Now, for everybody out there, eschatology 119 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: is a big theological words, not a biblical word. It 120 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: just simply means the study of end times. So you 121 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: guys know what we're talking about, the seven year tribulation, 122 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: anti Christ, Jesus, thatcond coming everything. So I didn't spend 123 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: hundreds I spent thousands of hours, and literally I thought 124 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: God was having me do it just for me. But 125 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: what I started noticing, Kirby, was I became kinder to 126 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: my family. I stopped getting upset as easily with my 127 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: team and let's just be honest. I mean, I started 128 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: getting so much more passionate about doing altra calls about ministry. 129 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: It was like my whole faith was renewed to a 130 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: level that, I mean, wasn't a level I had ever 131 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: walked in before. It was so strong, I mean, my faith. 132 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I'd never walked in this level of excitement, anticipation and faith. 133 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: And so I started realizing, Wow, this is good fruit. Well, 134 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: what happened is, in the process of seeking God, I 135 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: started learning some things that I didn't know. And one 136 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: of the big ones is the second coming of Jesus 137 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: is the second most talked about subject in the entire Bible. Wow, 138 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: other than salvation, there is no other subject. It was 139 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: the most second most written about subject by the early 140 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: church fathers of the first three centuries. It is the 141 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: most talked about time period in all of scripture. In 142 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: other words, Jesus's first coming, the three and a half 143 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: years he walked to the earth, There's more written in 144 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: the Bible about his second coming than that time period. 145 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: So the question arose in my heart, Kirby, was what 146 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: is the wisdom of God in this? Why would God 147 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: talk about this so much? If I'm to ignore it. 148 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: So when I started realizing, is this I don't want. 149 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: You know, when you think of the second Coming, what 150 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: do you get? You get ambiguity, you get confusion, you 151 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: get controversy, arguments, you know, fear. All of this happened 152 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: with this first Coming. And Winston Churchill made a statement 153 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: to the House of Commons in nineteen forty eight. He said, 154 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: those who fail to learn from history are doomed to 155 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: repeat it. So a holy spirit drew me back to 156 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: jesus first coming. I thought, Okay, I see two groups 157 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: of people on his first coming. I see a group 158 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: of people that recognized him, even predicted to the week 159 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: of his execution, one hundred and fifty years before he 160 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: was crucified. Then I see the people who didn't recognize him. Now, 161 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: who are the people that didn't recognize them? The Pharisees. 162 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: They could quote the first five books of the Bible, 163 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: but they can't recognize God manifest in the flesh when 164 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: he's raising the dead. That's scary. But the group of 165 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: people who knew him were a group of people call 166 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: these aescenes. And we didn't know much about these scenes 167 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: until the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered in nineteen forty seven. 168 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, now we start learning about this community. 169 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: They were very devout believers. They were very careful to 170 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: protect the scripture and the ancient Jewish father's writings. They 171 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: started forming in one hundred and fifty years before Jesus 172 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: was born because they saw how Israel was departing from 173 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: the ways of God. So these guys actually had it right. 174 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: These are the guys that the wise men went to 175 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: and said, where's it going to be born. These are 176 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: the guys that a lot of Bible scholars believe John 177 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: the Baptist came out of. They believed Mary, the Mother 178 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: of Jesus came out of. They also believed this guy 179 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: name Simeon came out of. Well, if you look at Simeon, 180 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: Simeon is in the temple. Now, the temple isn't like 181 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: a modern day cathedral. Okay, you know how we have cathedrals. Say, 182 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: if you go in on a Wednesday, there's two people 183 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: in there. Right, The temple was buildings and it always 184 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: had a massive crowd of people in there every single day. 185 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: This little couple comes into that temple with all the 186 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: crowds of people virtually unknown, I mean he's in his 187 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: early twenties, she's in her late teens. They're from Nazareth, 188 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: and immediately this guy, Simeon, does a beeline to them, 189 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: holds up a forty day old baby and cries out 190 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: the Messiah. Mary is blown away. So what is it 191 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: about this guy? Because here he recognizes Messiah when he's 192 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: forty days old. Pharisees can't recognize him when he's thirty 193 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: years old. What is it about this guy? He was righteous? 194 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: This is Luke two twenty five. He was righteous, he 195 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: was devout, and he was eagerly waiting. This is the key, 196 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: because you're gonna find out Jesus tells us to do 197 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: this similar thing. Before a second, what does the word 198 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: righteous mean? It means one who acts out of a 199 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: constitutionally just character. That's the definition. I'm going to put 200 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: it in a way that all of our listeners can understand. 201 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: He pursued godly living, He pursued holiness. Second one devout. 202 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: That word is amazing. Do you know what that word is? 203 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: How that word is defined in the Greek one who 204 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: takes the word of God seriously. So this guy's not gone. Oh, 205 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: when Messiah comes, he'll just come it'll all pan out. 206 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: He's not mocking, he's not saying, oh, why should I 207 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: even botherstay. He literally takes the word of God seriously. 208 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: It carries with it the fear of the Lord, which 209 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: isn't to be scared of God. It's to be terrified 210 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: of being away from God. But the third one is 211 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: really really interesting. He was eagerly waiting. Now, this is 212 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: a Greek word called prostectomy. Prostectomy is an interesting word 213 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: because you see it several times in the New Testament, 214 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: and sixty six percent or two thirds of the time 215 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: it occurs. It deals with Jesus' is coming. So he then, 216 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: when he's done prophesying over Jesus, a prophetest named Anna. 217 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: I love saying, guys. Remember she's a woman, and she's 218 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: a prophetess. She comes over, grabs the baby, and she 219 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: talks about this child, not to everybody in the temple, 220 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: only those who were prostecting me eagerly waiting for him 221 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: to come. So now, if you go over to Jesus's words, 222 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: and this is amazing. I'm trying to remember where it is. 223 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: It's Luke twelve thirty five. Just so your listeners can 224 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: look at it. Yeah, Jesus tells us to do three 225 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: things for a second coming. Okay. Number one he says, 226 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: stay dressed for service. Okay. Number two, I'll talk about 227 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: it in a minute. He said, keep your lamps burning. 228 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: And number three he says this, and be like men 229 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: who wait for their master who is coming home. The 230 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: word weight is prostecting me. So I'm going to add 231 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: in eagerly wait. So there we see the eagerly wait 232 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: two times. So now, if you are thinking, oh, he's 233 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: not going to be coming for two hundred years, you're 234 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: not eagerly waiting. But if you believe he's coming any moment, 235 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: like his return is imminent, you're going to be eager because, 236 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: all right, probably seventy percent of your audience you told me, 237 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: is female. If you think about your wedding day when 238 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: you were engaged, if any of you girls were engaged, 239 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: you think about it quite a bit. You're eagerly anticipating 240 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: that day. You're working hard to be prepared for that day. Well, 241 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: we're the bride of Christ. We're not the groom. We're 242 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: the bride of Christ. Okay, he's the groom. And the 243 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: Bible says that the wedding of the lamb has come, 244 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: and the bride has made her self ready? How does 245 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: she make herself ready? These three things? Number one eagerly waiting. Now, 246 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: what I didn't realize is how often this appears in 247 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: the epistles. Yep, Kirby, you may have known this, but 248 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: it took me forty seven years, for forty six years 249 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: to discover this, because it wasn't until last year. I mean, 250 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: all these years I've read the Bible, did I find 251 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: out how many times we are told to be eagerly 252 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: waiting his second coming. I'm gonna read a couple, just 253 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: a couple, Can I do it? 254 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 255 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: First Corinthians one to seven Pulses the Corinthian Church, as 256 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you eagerly wait for the return of our Lord Jesus. 257 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: Second Timothy four eight. The prize or the crown of 258 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: righteousness is not just for me, but all who are 259 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: eagerly looking forward to his appearing Hebrews. Now, I'm not 260 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: reading them all, I'm just reading a few. Christ will 261 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: come again, not to deal with our sins, but to 262 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: bring salvation to all who are eagerly wait. Why is 263 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: eagerly waiting so important? I'll tell you and This is 264 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: amazing and if everybody that's listening can get a hold 265 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: of this, it'll change your life. John the apostle, who 266 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: saw the Book of Revelation, think about it, writes a letter. 267 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: He's in his nineties, he's served God faithfully for over 268 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: seven decades. But listen to what he says in his letter. 269 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: He said, when Christ appears, this is first John three, 270 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: two and three. When Christ appears, we will see him 271 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: as he really is, and all who have this eager 272 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: expectation will purify themselves even as he is pure. Now 273 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: that's a mind blowing statement. First of all, it doesn't 274 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: say God's gonna purify us. Now, God purifies us when 275 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: we believe in Jesus. The blood of Jesus cleanses me 276 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: from all sin. Purify. That that's justification. We can't confuse 277 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: justification with sanctification. Okay, I'm gonna those are big words. 278 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: We're justified in the sight of God, the moment we're saved, 279 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: the moment we give our lives to Jesus. God declares 280 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: us holy, He declares us free from all sin. But 281 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: then the work of sanctification begins. And that's when what 282 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: God did in here is seen out here. 283 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 284 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: In other words, I exude the characteristics of Jesus. Okay, 285 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: when we have to cooperate with that. So when John says, 286 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: all that have this eager expectation will purify themselves, now 287 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: listen to this word, as Jesus is pure. If you 288 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: ever ever, you ever meet people they say, it's just 289 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: so hard to walk in holiness, it's just so hard 290 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: to live a godly life. Are you eager about his coming? 291 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: Because the Bible tells us that that eager expectation gives 292 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: us the power to live a godly life. Now, think 293 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: about it. When a girl is when a girl is 294 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: engaged and she's planning her wedding, it's on her mind constantly. 295 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: It was on my mind constantly, And I was the groom. 296 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: I couldn't start when Lisa left for two months to 297 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: go prepare for our winning in another state. If you 298 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: gave me just two minutes, I was talking about my 299 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: wedding day. It was only thing on my mind. I 300 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: could not wait for that day. So when you look 301 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: at this, you think about it, your your focus, your 302 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: focus is totally on my wedding day, my groom, right 303 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: for the bride, my bride for the groom. Well, Paul 304 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: makes a statement to us. He said, set your sights 305 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: on the realities of heaven. Think about the things of heaven, 306 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: not on the earth. So why do we do this? 307 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: Because Paul says in Philippians, for I've told you, and 308 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: I say it again with tears of my eyes, that 309 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: there are many, not some, not few, many whose behavior 310 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: shows their minds are set on the thing of this earth. Okay, 311 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: so the bride, you know, I'll just go to me. 312 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm engaged to Lisa. I don't care how pretty the 313 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: girl was. She didn't she didn't draw my mind away 314 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: because I was so set on my girl that I'm 315 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: gonna fly up to and may fly up there in 316 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: Indiana and marry in two months. I couldn't, I couldn't 317 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: be pulled away. Yeah. So when we look at this world, 318 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: it's gotten alluring attraction. I mean, you know, it is powerful, 319 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: the allurement, especially with social media, because when I was 320 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: in high school, I only got two hundred and fifty 321 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: bits of information billboards, magazines, television. Right today, people are 322 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: being confronted with tens of thousands of bits of information 323 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: every single day. What are they all doing they're competing 324 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: for your affections, competing for your attention. So now today 325 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: it's very easy to not be eagerly anticipating the coming 326 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: of the Lord, but rather caught up in the things 327 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: of this world. Now, if you look at the virgins, 328 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: there were ten virgins. They weren't harlots, they weren't prostitutes. 329 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: They all had light, which speaks of Jesus said, you're 330 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: the light of the world. And they were all No, 331 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: they all knew the bride was coming, the bridegroom was coming. Yeah, 332 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: but five or wise, five or foolish? Yeah, okay, that 333 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: that can keep me up at night. I literally laid 334 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: in bed awake a couple of nights ago, going why 335 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: wasn't it Nine were wise and one was foolish. See, 336 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: they're not harlots, these are not These are not girls 337 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: that are like living in the world and couldn't care 338 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: less about this bridegroom coming. Yeah yeah, And all of 339 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: a sudden, im thinking who is wise and who is foolish? Well, 340 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: Paul tells us who is wise and who is foolish. 341 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: Paul says in Ephesians five. Just listen to this. You 342 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: can be sure that no immoral, impure or greedy person 343 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: will inherit the Kingdom of Christ and God. Don't be 344 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: fooled by those who try to excuse these sins. Be 345 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: careful how you live. Don't live like fools, okay foolish virgins. 346 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: Don't live like foolish virgins, but like those who are wise. 347 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: Let me tell you story. This is heartbreaking. I have 348 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: a young man on our team. He works in our 349 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: he works on our discipleship department. And I was doing 350 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: a podcast and he came up to me and he said, John, 351 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you what just happened to me just 352 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: last week. Well this was four months ago. He said, 353 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: I went to a wedding and he said, before the wedding, 354 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: I met one of the grooms men, and he said, 355 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: when the groomsmen found out I worked for John and 356 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: Lisa Bavie, he was so excited. He was like, oh, 357 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: I love their minister. I watch this podcast. Dotta okay. 358 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: So he goes back to the room where the groom 359 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: and all the groom's men are, and the minister who's 360 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: officiating the wedding looks at all of them says, guys, 361 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: have fun tonight. It's all covered by grace. Oh my gosh, yes, 362 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: and he said, John, I had no idea that happened. 363 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: But at the reception, he said, this same guy was 364 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: so drunk he couldn't stand straight. He said, I grabbed him. 365 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: I pulled him over and said, what are you doing? 366 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: And he said, Well, the pastor who did the wedding 367 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: made the statement. Now, how listen to what Paul says. 368 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Don't be fooled by those who don't be fooled by 369 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: those who try to excuse these sins. How are they 370 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: going to fool us? Well, Jude tells us in the 371 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: last days, these are the days we're living in, and 372 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: verse four of his book, he said, I say this 373 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: because some ungodly people have crept in. Yes, okay, crept 374 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: in snuck in to your churches unnoticed, saying the grace 375 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: of God, God's marvelous grace allows us to live in 376 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: moral lives. Now, that is the deed of the nicolaatins, 377 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: which Jesus said two times I hate in revelation. So 378 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: what we are is we are living in a day where, 379 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: of course sin hardens your heart, makes you less sensitive. 380 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: I want everybody to listen to me, really careful, because 381 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: I know, Kirby, this is your heart, and I'm going 382 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: to speak your heart right now. I have a wedding 383 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: license with my wife, and that wedding license says we 384 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: are technically married. But Kirby, if I'm sleeping with a 385 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: couple other women in town, I may not lose my 386 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: marriage immediately, although it will happen because Lisa said she's 387 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: a sniper, and she said she would make it painless. 388 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: Sillian Inner, Yeah. 389 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: But what do I lose? I lose the intimate fellowship 390 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: with Lisa. 391 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 392 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: And see the Bible makes a statement. It says, little children, 393 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: this one John two twenty eight, my little children. So 394 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: we know he's only talking to Christians, he's not talking 395 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: to everybody. He said, remain in fellowship with him so 396 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: that when he appears, we will have confidence and not 397 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: shrink back in shame. So he's telling us there's gonna 398 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: be two responses to his return by Christians, confidence or shame. 399 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: And I want everybody this listening to have confidence. Now 400 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: I know a lot of young people that are listening. 401 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: You're like, gosh, I got a whole life in front 402 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: of me. Yes, plan as if he's not coming for 403 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: two hundred years, but live the way you live. Live 404 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: like he's coming back today. 405 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: That's so good. That's literally the whole podcast, is it? 406 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: Oh my. 407 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 2: No, John, that was so good. Yeah. But here's the thing. 408 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: Every time you would say something, I would be like, well, 409 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: can you go on? Can you explain that? And then 410 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 2: you would rhetorically ask the question that I was going 411 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 2: to ask. No, it was It's perfect. I love the 412 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 2: way that you guided that conversation just now, because there 413 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: are so many That's the thing, though, is that there 414 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: are so many questions that people have where it's like, well, 415 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: where does it say this in scripture? And how does 416 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: it relate to this? And how does this relate to me? 417 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 2: Because we can look at scripture, especially when it comes 418 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: to the prophetic and apocalyptic, and be like, okay, well 419 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: they understood what this meant then, just knowing the context 420 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: of their time, and even with apocalyptic, there are some 421 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: things that are up to interpretation, just with the sign 422 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: of the times and and and all those things, knowing 423 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: that we are still in those times where it is soon, 424 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 2: it is coming, but we don't know when. But I 425 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: love that within your book and even everything that you're 426 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: saying now, there's so much practicality of what we can 427 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: do in expectation that our waiting should not be a 428 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: passive thing. It should be a purposeful thing. That we 429 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 2: don't have to either be frozen in fear or flee 430 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: in fear, or you know, be prepping our doomsday shelters 431 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 2: in fear. But we can actually live in a place 432 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: of peace and purpose and confidence today when it comes 433 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 2: to waiting and preparing. And I love that even what 434 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: you said was that as you studied this, and the 435 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: more that you studied this, there was this fruit in 436 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: your life that that led to salvations and other people 437 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 2: wait that you preach exactly. And that's something that I've 438 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 2: talked about. I did a series a long time ago 439 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: in about the churches and revelation and in what Jesus 440 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: was saying specifically to them, what we can glean from 441 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: that now I've done series. I did a series last 442 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: year even where I talked about, Okay, what is the 443 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,239 Speaker 2: end times? What does this look like? Why should we 444 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: not live in fear? What are the signs that we 445 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: should look for? And I think it's important that we 446 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 2: know that this is something that doesn't have to be 447 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: approached with fear that this is something that we can have, 448 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 2: Like you said, this confident waiting and expectation and devotion 449 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: to God in and still be effective in this time 450 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: and in this waiting. You were going to say something, 451 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: But what were you going to say? 452 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, what troubles me after spending these 453 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: thousands of hours and I want to say this is well, 454 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: let me say this is a lot of times when 455 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: people talk about eschatology, it deals with the signs, the wonders, 456 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: the blood moons. There's supposed to be a blood moon today. Okay, 457 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: it deals with the signs, the wonders, you know, the 458 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: famines and this, and these. 459 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: Are MORTI Christ all these. 460 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Are the I mean, they are talked about them. They're important. Yes. However, however, 461 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to take you back to when I was 462 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: a student at Pretty University. The dread ifying week would come. 463 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: We didn't have cell phones back in those days. We 464 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: had to go to our engineering building and they had 465 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: a big print out and it had the classroom, the 466 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: time and the date of each of our finals, and 467 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: we're responsible to write it down. That took me all 468 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: of fifteen minutes, but I spent hours and hours and 469 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: hours and hours and hours preparing. Now, my preparation wouldn't 470 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: have been as effective if I didn't know what classroom 471 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: it was in. So it's all important. I'm not trying 472 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: to say, hey, you know, dah dah da da da. 473 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: But what I found as I was writing this book, Okay, 474 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: God just started drawing me more into the preparation part. Yes, 475 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: and also to not neglect the other important signs that 476 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: Jesus speaks about. But if you had to say, you know, 477 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: what is the percentage, I would say it's eighty twenty, 478 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: it's or maybe seventy thirty. But more is dealt with 479 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: preparation than you know. It's not about dates and timeliness, 480 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: about being transformed personally because this message, and this is 481 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: why now I understand the early Church would have prophecy meals. 482 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: They would eat a dinner and they would do nothing 483 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: but talk about the prophetic scriptures because God made the 484 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: prophetic scriptures in such a way that you had to 485 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: inquire carefully and search diligently. Now that's one Peter one ten, 486 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: and that's about his first coming. So that's what the 487 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: Aceines did. And how about this, the a scenes predict 488 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: the execution of Messiah to the week one hundred and 489 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: fifty years before it happens. Why because they searched diligently 490 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: and they inquired carefully. So what I what I think 491 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: is really cool is that there were people that have 492 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 1: been teaching on this that are very sound teachers. I 493 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: would listen to some of what they would say in 494 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: the gym. I read some of their books. Now, I 495 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: didn't read books when I was writing this because I 496 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: didn't want their message is bleeding in. But what I'm 497 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: excited about is, first of all, I find, especially young 498 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: people really struggle with reading nowadays. So what I did 499 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: is I made this twenty eight really short chapters. Twenty 500 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: eight days is four weeks, so there's four sections of 501 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: seven chapters. It is not a devotional It is a 502 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: book you can sit and read it from cover to cover. 503 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: But what I also do have five devotional questions or 504 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: actually things to ponder, things to point out at the 505 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: end of each chapter. And then I've got a four 506 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: to six minute video that's free that you can use 507 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: the QR code on. And so I just really want 508 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 1: to make this because what I'm hoping, Kirby, is that 509 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: people your age and younger are going to start doing groups. 510 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: And I know what's going to happen with them when 511 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: they do these groups and they start studying, is the 512 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: fire is going to burn and it's going to be easy. Listen, 513 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: let me tell you. If I'm not in love with 514 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: my wife, which I am very much in love with her, 515 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: if you're around me, I'm not going to talk about her. 516 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 1: If I am. If I am in love with my wife, 517 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: you're around me, I'm going to talk about her easy. 518 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean when I was engaged, people, actually I think 519 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: got a little tired of me talking so much about 520 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Lisa in the wedding coming up. This is what will 521 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: happen to you when you start understanding how this is 522 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: really not an event. And I'm going to say it. 523 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: And I hope you guys don't think I'm being irreverent, 524 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: because I'm not. But this is a love story about 525 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: a love sick groom who's coming back for a love 526 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: sick bride and they're both anticipating and and the groom 527 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: is just waiting for dad to say, go get your girl. 528 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: That's what this is a story about. And I believe 529 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: you know when I when I wrote this book, oh, 530 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: my gosh, Kirby, there are mornings. I came down and 531 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: I said, Lisa, I'm so sorry. I'm I'm so rivetted 532 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: by what the Holy Spirit's showing me and in this 533 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: this is my twenty fifth book. And I told our team, 534 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: I said, I will go on. I'm going to promote 535 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: this like no book I've ever written, because no book 536 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: I've ever written has touched me more personally than this one. 537 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: And so I just you know, it's so cool. I 538 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: know most of you guys are Amazon members. All you 539 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: gotta do is go one click. They got it on 540 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: sale right now. It's the day of the release. You'll 541 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: have it in your house in two days. And just 542 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: do it for the month of March, I mean, or 543 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: do it, you know, during the month of April, whatever 544 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: you choose, since April is the month we have Easter. 545 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: And you know what about the fifth or sixth chapter, 546 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: And I think it's funny that April's April fifth is Easter. 547 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: I think it is. I talk about the execution Jesus 548 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: endured because he loved us so much. He was in 549 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: front of four He was four in front of four 550 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: regiments of soldiers. Three of those regiments beat him till 551 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: they were exhausted. These are trained warriors. Yeah, And by 552 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: the time the fourth one was finished, the Roman regiment 553 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: of soldiers. The Bible says that his appearance didn't even 554 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: look like a human being any longer. And I said, Jesus, 555 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: why why would you do this, your God? And he said, 556 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: because I love my bride so much for the joy 557 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: sent before him, the joy of the wedding. He endured 558 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: such hostility and brutality. Boy, I tell you we've got 559 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: to save you that you will fall in love with 560 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: Jesus as you read this, when you realize what he's 561 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: done for you and how excited he is about coming 562 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: back for you. 563 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: Come on, I will link all that in the show 564 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: notes for you guys as well, so you literally can 565 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: just scroll like a centimeter down and click the link 566 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 2: so that you can grab this book, because truthfully, I 567 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: think that it's a resource that we desperately need. Not 568 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 2: just so it's this it's this map where it's like, Okay, 569 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: these are the signs that I'm looking out for. But really, 570 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: what the heart of John said is my heart too, 571 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: of what are we actively doing today in our own pursuit, 572 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 2: in our own abiding with Christ, and how does that 573 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 2: move us to impact the kingdom, to make heaven crowded 574 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: so that other people can be aware and awake and 575 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,239 Speaker 2: alive for the second coming of Christ, whenever that should be, 576 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: whether we are here for it or whether we are 577 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: not right, whether we are in the great Cloud of witnesses, 578 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 2: or whether we are part of those people who endure 579 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 2: to the end. I want y'all to grab this book. 580 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: It is so good, John, Thank you for just taking 581 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: the time to be on here today and to share 582 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: your heart. I really am glad that you talked for 583 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 2: the majority of this episode because as much as I 584 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 2: could ask these questions, your fervency, your fire for this. 585 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 2: That's what's beautiful about this is that you are not 586 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 2: coming from a place of fear mongering or a place 587 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: of doom, like it really is this place of joy, 588 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: of ex spectancy, of approachability, and you make that so 589 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: within your book as well. So I'm really excited for 590 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: people to get their hands on it. So people, get 591 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 2: your hands on it, get it on Amazon, grab it 592 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: wherever books are sold, John, is there anything else that 593 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: you want to promote podcast? 594 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: I want to say, I want to say I am 595 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: so proud of you. Thank you for obeying the call 596 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: of God in your life. I imagine you get a 597 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: lot of persecution, a lot of people like you're a woman, 598 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing this. Let me tell you something. 599 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: This is one dad in the Church of the saying 600 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: go girl go. Thank you so much for glorifying Jesus, 601 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: preaching Jesus, helping the people that listen to you. I 602 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: can really sense the hand of God on you as 603 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: you're doing this. Thank you so very much, Kirby, Thank 604 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: you John. 605 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 2: That really means a lot to me. Well, we're going 606 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 2: to wrap it up there, guys. I really hope that 607 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: you enjoyed today's episode. I hope that as you think 608 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 2: about these things and engage in conversations like this, that 609 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: you would be able to access resources and tools like 610 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: this so that you feel equipped not only in your 611 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: own faith, in your own walk with the Lord, but 612 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 2: as you engage in community and especially engage with the 613 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: culture that needs the hope of Christ, the hope of 614 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: the Gospel. So grab that copy, it's linked down below, 615 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: and I will see you guys here next week for 616 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 2: another episode on the Bottom Beloved podcast. But until then, 617 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 2: love you guys, see you next week. 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