1 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: The talented mister Epstein. The Epstein story is back with 2 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: a vengeance. It just won't go away. And that's a 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: good thing. Why Because it gives us a window into 4 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes world of degenerate elites, shows how 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: the system actually works. It's a lesson in how the 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: bad guys get away with it, a lesson in the 7 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: unaccountability of power. For decades, the Epstein story was supposed 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: to be about pedophilia. There was this pedophile Epstein, who 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: set up an elaborate pedophile ring for other rich pedophiles. 10 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: They communicated through weird signals like eating pizza. They engaged 11 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: in perversions which we ordinary decent people could hardly imagine. 12 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: The Epstein story made us feel dirty in a way, 13 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: but also good about ourselves because we were not like 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: those evil rich people. We were so much better than 15 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: they were. But as with a lot of things, when 16 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: you get a closer look, things look somewhat different than 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: they did before. 18 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: It's happened before. 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: Remember the Catholic Church pedophilia scandal, all those pedophile priests, 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: Except the real scandal was far bigger than pedophile priests. 21 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: What it really involved is homosexuals, infiltrating the priesthood for generations, 22 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: whole parishes became so called lavender mafia's. The gays recognized 23 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: they had a ready supply of teenage boys who came 24 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: in through the Altar boy network. So a whole system 25 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: of sexual predation developed through a very old institution. That's 26 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: why the Catholic Church refused to confront the problem for 27 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: so long. It was a corruption of the system, yes, 28 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: but the problem had also become built in. It involved 29 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: the way the system worked. The real Epstein scandal is 30 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: the same. It involves pedophilia, yes, but that's not the 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: full story. The story is one of how our system 32 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: of elites works and has long worked in America. Epstein 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: figured it out. He was an outsider, but he became 34 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: part of the club. He created his own club. He 35 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: introduced an innovation, his own unique brand. He got lots 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: of rich and powerful people to join his club because 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 1: it had its own special allure. This is a story 38 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: of the corruption of human nature, of what happens when 39 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: the stable balance of power between men and women is wrecked. Now, 40 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein didn't reck it. He took advantage of the 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: new opportunities created by the wreckage. In a sense, he 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: created a new equilibrium of power. To understand this, we 43 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: have to understand the cultural revolution of the nineteen sixties. 44 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: We have to understand David and Bathsheba. We have to 45 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: understand the Bible. Let's begin with some facts that have 46 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: come out in recent days that throw light on the 47 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: big picture. Want to hear something funny. I'm named the 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Epstein Files. Just the day before I found out about this, 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: my wife Debbie said to me, Hey, it's a good 50 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: thing you're not in the Epstein files. 51 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: I laughed, but I should have said, oh, contraire. 52 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Turns out I'm mentioned in the files, but in a 53 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: context that actually makes. 54 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 2: Me look good. 55 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: The physicist Lawrence Kraus emails Epstein about being in New York, 56 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: and he mentions he scheduled to debate quote that slime 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: bucket densh Desuza. He calls me a slime bucket. Now 58 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: the debate, as it happens, never took place. I'm not 59 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: sure why God canceled, but it didn't work out. But 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: consider the irony one pervert. Kraus writes the King of 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: Perverts Epstein, referring to me as a slime bucket. Well, hey, 62 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I'll take that as a badge of honor. By the way, 63 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: Kraus is part of a group that's called the New Atheists. 64 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Our debate was supposed to be about God versus atheism. 65 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: I'll let you guess who was on which side. Kraus 66 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: was evidently a good body of Epstein, but he wasn't 67 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: the only one. I notice there are several new atheists, 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: many of them academics and science on the Epstein friend list. 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: Two of them are evolutionary biologists Robert Trivers and Mark Hauser. 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: Then there's the cognitive scientist Stephen Pinker, formerly of MIT, 71 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: now at Harvard. Pinker actually draws on the techniques of 72 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: cognitive science to instruct Epstein on how he can evade 73 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: charges of trafficking young girls. Basically, Pinker uses a sort 74 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: of Bill Clinton technique, getting into the nuances of words. 75 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: Remember this, are you having sex with that young woman? 76 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: Clinton says no, because Clinton's way of understanding the question 77 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: is are you having sex with that young woman right now? 78 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: Since he's not, at this very moment having sex with 79 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: Monica Lewinsky, He's technically accurate in answering no. Pinker wants 80 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Epstein to take a page from his good buddy Bill Clinton. 81 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: Bill, of course, was an Epstein insider. 82 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: No surprise, Epstein even had a portrait of Bill in 83 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: his New York apartment. Bill was wearing the infamous Monica 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: Lewinsky blue dress. I'm sure the two of them had 85 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: a good laugh over that one. In that world, a rich, 86 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: powerful man praying on an opportunistic but vulnerable young woman 87 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: is not a moral scandal. It's an opportunity. Laughing about 88 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: it shows a wink wink understanding that we people like 89 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: Epstein and Bill Clinton play by different rules than ordinary people. 90 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: Ordinary people don't live like that, not by the way, 91 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: because they're better people, but because they are not rich 92 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: enough or powerful enough to get such opportunities. Bill Gates 93 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: was once an ordinary fellow. He was your typical squinty 94 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: eyed tech nerd. I'm sure he got zero attention from 95 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: the girls. They probably made fun of him, and so 96 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: did the boys. Everyone made fun of him. He didn't 97 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: like it one bit. But Bill was smart, and he 98 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: used those smarts to become rich, very rich. And then 99 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: Bill noticed that the picture change. Suddenly he became attractive 100 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: not just to girls, but to younger girls. Of course, 101 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: they were attracted not to him, but to his wealth, 102 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: his power. But Bill didn't care. The bottom line was 103 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: at a new avac knew of opportunity opened up to him. 104 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't merely a sexual thrill. It proved to him 105 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: that he was cool after all, he was also hot. 106 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: He satisfied the entire vocabulary of one time social media 107 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: star Paris Hilton. She apparently said only two phrases, that's hot, 108 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: that's cool. Bill was hot and cool at the same time. 109 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Then there's Steve Bannon, man of the people now through 110 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: the outside world. Steve Bannon is a populist. He's on 111 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: the side of the common man. He reflects the ideology 112 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: of the common man in his show war Room. He 113 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: won't put up with those rich elites. They're destroying the country. 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: He's Steve is the leader of a movement that is 115 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: saving the country. Except there's a facade. Steve Bennon is 116 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: all over the Epstein files. It's not just that Bannon 117 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: knew Epstein. Bannon was a close advisor and confidante to Epstein. 118 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: Bannon was planning to make a documentary film defending Epstein. 119 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: By the way, prior to the release of the files, 120 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: Bannon made it sound like he was doing a film 121 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: critical of Epstein. Or contrary, Bannon was essentially serving as 122 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: Epstein's pr man. Epstein too, saw himself as a promoter 123 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: of Bannon. You scratch migroin and out scratch yours. Sorry, 124 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I had to go there now. In one exchange, Epstein 125 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: basically tells Bannon that he needs a bit of a rebranding. 126 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: Bannon has seen too much as a political hack. Epstein 127 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: wants Bannon to go into media. This will provide a 128 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: much better cover for him. The underlying assumption is that 129 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Bannon can make shady deals but hide behind the banner 130 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: of being a journalist. Now, consider one of Bannon's biggest scams, 131 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: raising money to build the Wall. For Bannon, this was 132 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: basically a ruse to get money for himself. What he 133 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: really wanted was for well meaning rubes to give him 134 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: their hard earned money. But it doesn't work to say 135 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm a lazy, dishevel Wall Street guy. I want to 136 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: live high on the hogs, so give me money, and 137 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: that wouldn't fly, So Bannon says, instead, workers of the 138 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: world unite, give me money so that I can build 139 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: a wall. 140 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: And save your jobs. 141 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: Bannon was convicted of this racket and then pardon by Trump. 142 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: You might say, you two tonesh were convicted and pardoned. Well, yes, 143 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: but I was convicted of exceeding the campaign finance limit, 144 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: which is trying to give away too much of my 145 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 1: own money. Bannon was convicted of trying to steal from others. 146 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Big difference. Incidentally, in order to pull off this confidence trick, 147 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 1: Bannon could not afford to be seen as a political hack. 148 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: He needed to be seen as an honest journalist or 149 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: champion of the people. The whole scam depended on it. 150 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: So Epstein understood the game. He wanted to help Bannon 151 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: to play it better. We see here that Epstein's club 152 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: was not just about sex. It was also about political 153 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: and cultural power. It was about jobs and career advancement 154 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: and steering the course of scientific research. It was about 155 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: playing the system. The people in this network, Epstein included, 156 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: are not so much immoral as they are a moral 157 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: for them. It's about power and sex and money. It's 158 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: not about anything else, because there is nothing else. These 159 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: are people who live by duster. Yes, maxim, If God 160 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: is not everything is permitted. You can see now why 161 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: the new atheists were all over Epstein like flies circling poop. 162 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: For the fly, there's no inherent aversion to poop. In fact, 163 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: for the fly, poop is a delicacy. This brings me 164 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: to Epstein's innovation. We need to figure out the innovation 165 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: of the talented mister Epstein, because Epstein by himself had 166 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: very little to offer. Sure you could give advice, but 167 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: who cares. Sure you could make introductions and connections, but 168 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: there are other ways to get that. Bill Gates doesn't 169 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: need to go to Epstein's meetings or Epstein's parties to 170 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: make connections. To listen to Epstein tell him how the 171 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: world is going. Epstein's innovation is to create a social 172 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: club with a secret ingredient access to young girls, not 173 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: necessarily underage, but teenagers and girls in their twenties. Epstein 174 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: created a system for men in their fifties, sixties, and 175 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: seventies to get massages and have sex with young women 176 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: in their teens and twenties. 177 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: This was the key to his success. 178 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: Older men can sometimes find a younger woman, but there 179 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: are no comparable networks where young women can be produced 180 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: to be your sex slave. Epstein built his network through 181 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: his procurer Gilan Maxwell. She was the head of his 182 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: product development, so to speak. Epstein recognized it's important to 183 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: embed this prostitution ring into a web of knowledge, social work, 184 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: and respectability. This way, people don't have to say I'm 185 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: going there to take care of my dick. They can 186 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: say I'm going there to discuss the next steps of 187 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence. I'm going there to learn about global health challenges. 188 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: This pretense actually makes the whole thing even more repulsive. 189 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: If you're going to be a pervert, don't pretend you're 190 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: doing it for the greater good. Kinghis Khan raped and pillage, 191 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: but he didn't try to pass himself off as mother Teresa. 192 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: Let's put the story in its widest perspective. For centuries, 193 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: under the system of traditional marriage, young men find young women, 194 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: and they get married and they live together for life. 195 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: But underneath this canventional arrangement is a complicated arrangement of power. 196 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: Young women most powerful when they are young, because that 197 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: is when they are the most beautiful. Young men are 198 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: most powerful when they are older, because that is when 199 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: they become rich and powerful. Now, in a traditional marriage, 200 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: a young woman who could attract an older man nevertheless 201 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: picks a younger man, a man who's not as powerful 202 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: as she is, but it's a long term bargain. Later 203 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: in life she will be less attractive and therefore less powerful, 204 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: and quite likely he will be more successful and therefore 205 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: more powerful. But in this bargain, the man agrees not 206 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: to go after younger women even when he can, because 207 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: his wife chose not to go after older men even 208 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: when she could. Both parties voluntarily submit to a long 209 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: term arrangement that tempers their power when it is at 210 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: its height. 211 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 2: But when traditional. 212 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Marriage breaks down, there's a new power structure. Younger women, 213 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: who are at the height of their power, goes straight 214 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: for the rich, powerful older men. The older men realize 215 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: they can unload their wives and go for the twenty 216 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: two year old. But for a procession of twenty two 217 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: year olds, this is not a power imbalance. It's actually 218 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: a power balance. The younger women have beauty and the 219 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: older men have Lamborghinis, and so there's a kind of 220 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: market equilibrium here. Left out of this cozy arrangement younger 221 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: men and older women. Both groups have nothing to offer, 222 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: so they are abandoned to porn and masturbation, and in 223 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the case of the women embittered. Feminist ideology, social justice, 224 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: and left wing activism is the consolation prize for women 225 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: who no longer have a husband, or a home or 226 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: a life. Jeffrey Epstein's Sordid World is distinctive to a degree, 227 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: but it's also a tale as old as time. Rich 228 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: and powerful men have always gotten their way, even in 229 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: traditional societies. They've always found a way to evade the rules, 230 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: or in some cases, they make rules for themselves. Think 231 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: of King David, who had at least eight wives, in 232 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: King Solomon, who had seven hundred wives. Both of them 233 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: also had lots of concubines. Hey, if you have seven 234 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: hundred wives, do you really need concubines on top of that? 235 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so, but that's just me. And these 236 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: are the great figures of the Bible. Yet they didn't 237 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: let their attachment to God eliminate their access to women, 238 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: and there were even limits to what the prophets asked 239 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: of them. When David sets his eyes on Batsheeba, the 240 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: prophet Nathan confronts him, but he doesn't say what we 241 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: expect him to say. The Prophet Nathan does not say, Hey, David, 242 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: what's with all the wives and concubines. God created one 243 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: woman for Adam, he didn't give him a harem. Why 244 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: can't you stick with one wife instead? Nathan gives the 245 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: example of the rich man with many lambs and the 246 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: poor man with just one lamb. The rich man is 247 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: having a banquet, so he takes the poor man's lamb. 248 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: Nathan gets David to agree this is an injustice, but 249 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: it's only an injustice because David has so much and 250 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Batsheba's husband has so little. Basically, Nathan is saying, you, David, 251 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: should be content with your eight wives on umptyen concubines. 252 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: Why must you also take this other guy's wife. The 253 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Bible never downplays the wickedness of human nature. Humans are 254 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: always breaking the rules, violating the commandments, going after the 255 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: golden calf. 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Peter delighted to 290 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 2: have you join me on the new show. 291 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: And you've got this blockbuster book, congratulations, number one on 292 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: the New York Times bestseller list, which is now becoming 293 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: a staple for you. Let me start with how you 294 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: begin in this book. You describe a kind of familiar scene, 295 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: a protest with Palestinians and Mexicans and Salvadorans, and these 296 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: guys are all marching in America and anti ICEO, anti 297 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: immigration enforcement demonstration, and to most of us looking at that, 298 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: it's very distasteful. You see all these foreign flags, but 299 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: it looks like some kind of a multi cultural or 300 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: left wing protest inside of America against the policies of 301 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: Trump or the policies of MAGA, but you go on 302 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: to show that there is a lot more going on. 303 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: In fact, there's a lot more that doesn't meet the eye. 304 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: What is going on? 305 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: Well, Denish, it's great to be with you on the show. 306 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: Congratulations on the new program, and yes we do go back. 307 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: I want to say, it's some forty years so you 308 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: are you are the ageless one. By the way you look. 309 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 3: You look every bit as much as you did when 310 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: we first met. Yeah, I mean, I think what what 311 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: we have missed in this debate over immigration and over 312 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 3: these protests is the fact that what we're seeing on 313 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: our streets when we see the Mexican flags of Palestinian flags, 314 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: it's not just simply the case of you know, some 315 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: radical student or activists that decide they're going to show 316 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: ethnic pride and waive this plat flag. This is actually 317 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: a concerted effort by foreign actors, foreign governments, of foreign 318 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 3: organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood, who work in conjunction with 319 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 3: domestic forces in the United States. I'm not suggesting they 320 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 3: sit down and conspire, but it's a confluence of interests. Right, 321 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: The radical left in the United States has this massive 322 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: disdain for our country, and these foreign governments or these 323 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 3: foreign movements share that disdain, but they also have levers 324 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 3: or mechanisms that they can deploy in order to give 325 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: more organization to these protests. So you know, Mexico has 326 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: a vast network of consulates that have been become involved 327 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: in our politics. They've actually set up a structure of 328 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: elected officials that actually live in the United States and 329 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: serve in the parliament. And these are structures that are 330 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: being mobilized in a manner which is a direct assault 331 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: on our sovereignty. So I felt like we were missing 332 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: this component that mass migration, what I call weaponized migration, 333 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 3: is actually a subversive act. It's a form of subversion. 334 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: And that's not so much my words. Those are the 335 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: words of these foreign powers themselves. 336 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: And which are the key powers you focus in the book. 337 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: It seems you have Mexico, but you also talk about 338 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: other parts of Central and South America. I see that 339 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: you have Venezuela, you have Brazil, Central America. You also 340 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: talk about China, and then of course the Muslim world. 341 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: So it looks like this is happening not just in 342 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: one sector, not just across the southern border perhaps, but 343 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: it is an international, maybe even a kind of global 344 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: effort to infiltrate and subvert the United States. 345 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly, And I think the inspiration here goes 346 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: back to the Mariel boat lift in nineteen eighty Fidel Castro. 347 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: I'm certainly old enough to remember it, and this was 348 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 3: an instance what started as what seemed like people fleeing 349 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 3: communist Cuba on boats was weaponized by Fidel Castro. There's 350 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: two famous scenes that I recount early in the chapter 351 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: of the book on this subject, where Jimmy Carter, when 352 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: the refugees start to arrive, he says, we're going to 353 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: welcome them with open arms, and Fidel Castro told his 354 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: top aids, according to a defector, well we're going to 355 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: fill his arms with human excrement. He used a stronger word, 356 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: but the point is, we are going to weaponize this migration, 357 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: and in fact that's what he did. So he seeded 358 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: the one hundred and twenty five thousand that eventually came 359 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: to the United States through the Mario boat lift with psychopaths. 360 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: He opened up the mental hospitals, put them on boats 361 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: with criminal gangs, with intelligence officers, and they ended up 362 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: wreaking havoc in the United States, a huge spike in 363 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 3: violent crime, a big infusion of drug networks, Our mental 364 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: hospitals were filled, and dinsh It's interesting in the early 365 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 3: two thousands, right after nine to eleven, the government had 366 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: a report. They studied what were the most successful attacks 367 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 3: on the United States. Number one was nine to eleven. 368 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: Number two was the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Number 369 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 3: three was the Mario boat lift in terms of the 370 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 3: damage done by an external power to the United States. 371 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: And what's interesting is when you recount those three episodes, 372 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: what happened after nine to eleven, We destroyed Al Qaeda, 373 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 3: What happened after Pearl Harbor, we destroyed the Japanese Empire. 374 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: What happened after the Mariel boat lift? Nothing, because there's 375 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: no military targets to strike. I mean, in fact, the 376 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: Reagan administration in nineteen eighty five was still begging Fidel 377 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: Castro to take back some of the people that he 378 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 3: had sent to the United States. So that was proof 379 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: of concept that mass migration can be weaponized. And it's 380 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: interesting that in the summer of nineteen eighty when Fidel 381 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: Castro was doing this, he went to Managua, Nicaragua, to 382 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 3: celebrate the first anniversary of the Sandinista victory in Nicaragua. 383 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 3: And with him there were Daniel Ortega, who is still 384 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: the president of Nicaragua, Lula, who is now the president 385 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 3: of Brazil. And he recounted to them the great successes 386 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: of the Mario boat lift. And one of the themes 387 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: of the book is they learned from that lesson and 388 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: they replicated that lesson, particularly during the Biden administration. But 389 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: they did it on a grand scale, not one hundred 390 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 3: and twenty five thousand people, more than ten million people. 391 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: And what you're saying is that this is actually a 392 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: coordinated effort. You describe, for example, the San Paolo Forum, 393 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: where these countries kind of get together, they compare notes, 394 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: they in a way, they formulate strategies, and so they're 395 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: executing this it seems at scale, with each actor kind 396 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: of doing its part. And you're saying America in effect 397 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: doing nothing about it. 398 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right to Nash sap. Powell Forum was started 399 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: by Fidel Castra and Lula in nineteen ninety. It includes 400 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 3: all the major left wing parties of Latin America, the 401 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: Democratic Socialists of America, which is AOC and Bernie Sanders 402 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: in the United States, they are honorary members. But you're 403 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: talking about the Marina Party in Mexico, you're talking about 404 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 3: Daniel Ortega, you're talking about the Venezuelan regime. They're all 405 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: members of the South Palla Forum. And what they have 406 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 3: really pushed for, largely from the beginning, has been open 407 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: borders with the United States, mass migration to the United States, 408 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: and that has been kind of the strategy. And so 409 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: when Joe Biden was declared the winner in November of 410 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, they immediately went to work in Mexico. Amelo, 411 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: the President of Mexico, the Marina Party immediately pulled in 412 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 3: the parliament and they passed three bills that they knew 413 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: were going to open up the floodgates of migration to 414 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: the United States. Daniel Ortega Nicaragua sent out word around 415 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 3: the world. If you charter planes and you come to 416 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: Nicaragua and pay us a fifty dollars for a visa fee, 417 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 3: we will get you to our northern border and help 418 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 3: you get to the United States. And it's estimated at 419 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: one point five million people from Africa, from Asia, and 420 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 3: from the Caribbean actually did so, so this was highly 421 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: coordinated and engineered. It's not to suggest that there aren't 422 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 3: people who are just voting with their feet and leaving 423 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: their countries, but it is kind of a faucet that 424 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: you can turn on and off. You'll notice that when 425 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: Donald Trump sealed the border, you don't have a mad 426 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 3: rush of people still going to Mexico. They've stopped because 427 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: the fawcet was closed. And that's what I think we're 428 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 3: missing with immigration today is how it's been weaponized by 429 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 3: these powers in Latin America and of course the Muslim 430 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: Brotherhood and China as well. 431 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: Peter, in one of my earlier films called America, I 432 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: had a conversation with this professor of ethnic or Chicano 433 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: studies in the Southwest, and he was talking about the Reconquista. 434 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: He was talking about how large parts of America were 435 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: seized from Mexico and truly to Mexico. 436 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: And at the time I saw this. 437 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: As a kind of leftist academic talking point in the 438 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: ethnic studies department. 439 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 2: I was a little shocked to see in. 440 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: Your book that this ideology that essentially wants to reclaim 441 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: large parts of America for Mexico. This is actually something 442 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: that is part of the ideology of the Mexican government. 443 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: Elected officials talk about it and promote it. In other words, 444 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: it's not a talking point, it's it's a real political thing. 445 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. I had the same reaction to Nash when I 446 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: started researching Mexico's attitude towards immigration. I was shocked that 447 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: they were this explicit about it. If I might, I'm 448 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: just going to read two quick quotes, because to me, 449 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: it's it's a little jarring when you realize who's saying 450 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: these things. The first one is from a Mexican senator, 451 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 3: Felix Macedonio. He's a member of the Marina Party. He's 452 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: a senior senator. He sits on the National Defense Committee, 453 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: which is the most powerful committee in the Mexican Senate, 454 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: and he said, just a couple of years ago, quote, 455 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: Mexicans are in our territory California, Nevada, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma, Colorado, 456 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: and Wyoming. We're going to take back the territory that 457 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 3: was stolen from us. So this is not some as 458 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 3: you said, some nutty Chicano studies professor who's living in 459 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: a fantasy world. This is somebody with actual political power. 460 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 3: Or this one, which is shorter, is a December twenty 461 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: twenty four report from one of President Scheinbaum's top aides, 462 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: Gabriela Rodriguez. This is an official government report. Quote. We 463 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: already know that the Mexican population in the United States 464 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 3: reaches thirty nine point nine million. We Mexicans are reclaiming 465 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 3: our territory. So yeah, this is I think a clear 466 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 3: ev evidence of how Mexico views mass migration. It is 467 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 3: an opportunity to extend to their sovereignty in the United 468 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: States and territories that they feel were stolen from them 469 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: in the nineteenth century. What that actually means, I mean, 470 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 3: do they think that California, Nevada will become Mexican states. 471 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, but I think they mean 472 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 3: at a minimum that they are going to exert sovereignty 473 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 3: over territories in the United States. And they're already doing this. 474 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 3: In esh one of the most shocking things that I 475 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: discovered in the book, and as I've met with people 476 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: at the White House in Capitol Hill, they had no 477 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: knowledge about it either. Mexico right now has more than 478 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: a dozen senators and members of parliament that sit in 479 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: their Senate in Parliament but live in the United States 480 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: and their job is to represent Mexicans in the United 481 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 3: States before the Mexican government. That to me is a 482 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 3: sh shocking example of subverting our sovereignty. I can't imagine 483 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: that Canada or Mexico would tolerate the United States doing 484 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: a similar thing in their country, and yet that's exactly 485 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 3: what Mexico's doing. So we have to stop engaging in 486 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 3: mirror imaging, which is thinking that other countries like Mexico 487 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 3: view migration the same way that we do. They don't. 488 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: They view this as an opportunity to get remittances. They 489 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 3: get sixty million dollars a sixty billion dollars worth a year, 490 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 3: but it is also a means of extending their sovereignty 491 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: inside the United States, and we need to take that seriously. 492 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you use this Sprace, Peter, but 493 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: it seems to me you are describing almost a kind 494 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: of warfare, right because the Mexicans can't take the territory 495 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: by force, and so they decide there's another way to 496 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: do it, and that is to kind of infiltrate, work 497 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: with the system, exploit the vulnerabilities of America, and do 498 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: it that way. Earlier in the book, you talk about 499 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: Samuel Huntington's famous phrase the clash of civilizations, which Huntingdon 500 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: formulated a little bit, I believe. 501 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 2: After nine to eleven. 502 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: It was sort of the idea that we in the 503 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: West represent one type of culture, and then there are 504 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: these non Western, anti Western cultures, and there's a kind 505 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: of brewing clash, impending clash of civilizations. But you say, 506 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: I think very strikingly that this clash of civilizations now 507 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: is not sort of at the border between cultures US 508 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: against them. It has been imported into the United States. 509 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: So the clash is occurring full scale, but it's occurring 510 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: right here in America. 511 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and that's because these powers view mass migration 512 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: and this clash as a form of civilizational warfare. So 513 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: you know, when you look at, for example, the Chinese 514 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: Communist Party and they disc us their competition with the 515 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: United States, Yeah, they talk about spheres of influence, they 516 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: talk about military capabilities, they talk about Taiwan, they talk 517 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 3: about you know, market share, but what they foundationally talk 518 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 3: about is getting rid of or defeating Judeo Christian civilization, 519 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: and it's it's focus on individualism because they have a 520 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: very different notion of what societies and people should value, 521 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: what is important, how our community should be organized, and 522 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: by whom. So it's a very foundational clash for them. 523 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: Same thing, of course with a Muslim brotherhood. You know, 524 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: you've written a lot on the issue of Islam and 525 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: it's clash with the West. But you could also say 526 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: the same thing about Mexico. Now, this Mexico often strikes 527 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: people as kind of a strange one because it is, 528 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: after all, a Spanish heritage country, and and you know 529 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: it's Catholics, so it obviously is a Christian society. But 530 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: what's happened in recent years in Mexico, particularly with Amlo 531 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: but also with Shinbaum, has been a denunciation of the 532 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 3: Western influence in Mexico. Amlo Lopez Obador, the former president, 533 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 3: when he was president, said that everything was great in 534 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: Mexico until the Conquista doors arrived, and that's when we 535 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: got greed, that's when we got slavery, that's when we 536 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: got wars, and that's when we got violence, which of 537 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: of course is a complete rewriting of Mayan and Aztec 538 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: history in a major scale. But he's serious about it. 539 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 3: Shinebaum in the same way. In fact, there has been 540 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: now over the course of the last five or six years, 541 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: a long simmering dispute, but I think an important one 542 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: between Mexico and the King of Spain, because they have 543 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 3: asked the King of Spain to apologize for Spain's colonis 544 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: and movement into Mexico, and the Spanish king has refused. 545 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: But at the same time, Shinbaum and Amlo have also 546 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: elevated the sort of indigenous cultures which are not, i think, 547 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 3: by any definition Western in their orientation. So Mexico also 548 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: figures into this clash of civilizations because in a sense, 549 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 3: they are turning their back from the Spanish Catholic heritage, 550 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: which traditionally has guided that society. So they fit very 551 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 3: well into this mold of wanting to defeat what they 552 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: view as the Anglo culture of the United States. 553 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: Peter, let's talk for a moment about China. You and 554 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: I have talked about this before, but I want you 555 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: to share it with my audience. This remarkable phenomenon of 556 00:33:50,880 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: Chinese connected tycoons and billionaires who are promoting trans ideology 557 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: in the United States. Now you go on to point 558 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: out they're not doing it in China. They're doing it. 559 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: Right here and only here. 560 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: And I think what you're saying is that, you know, 561 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: it's not that the Chinese have developed a sudden sympathetic 562 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: affection for Americans who are having trouble with their own identity. 563 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: This is part of the weaponization, isn't it. 564 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. Yeah. This would be a Josai who's 565 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 3: one of the co founders of Ali Baba, who has 566 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 3: poured tens of millions of dollars into transwrite causes in 567 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: the United States. And you know other well connected Chinese, 568 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: you know investors or billionaires who are funding the trans 569 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 3: rights movement in the United States. They're certainly not the 570 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 3: only ones. But again, these individuals are not supporting the 571 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 3: similar cause in China. And this goes to the heart 572 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: of what I think we're talking about when we mean 573 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 3: civilizational warfare. And they've they've gotten very clever about this. 574 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 3: To nash one of the things that China has done. 575 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 3: You know, Mexico has its strategy, which is bringing people 576 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 3: across the border and then trying to get them, you know, 577 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 3: connected and turning them into a political force. In the 578 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 3: case of China, it's this industrial scale exploitation of birthright citizenship. 579 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: Birthright citizenship. You know this idea that if you're born here, 580 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: you're granted US citizenship, And generally speaking, I'm sympathetic to 581 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: that idea, except for the fact that in the modern age, 582 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 3: China has exploited on a massive scale. We don't know 583 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: numbers in the United States because our federal government does 584 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 3: not track the national citizenship of the parents. So if 585 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: you're born here, you get a birth certificate, you're granted 586 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 3: US citizenship. But China has been tracking what's been going on, 587 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: and they have actually encouraged their elites to do this, 588 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 3: to engage in birth tourism, to fly the pregnant wives 589 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 3: to the United States on a tourist visa, give birth here, 590 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 3: the child is born here, granted citizenship as soon as 591 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 3: they can help fly in a healthy way. After a 592 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: week or two, they're flown back to China where they 593 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 3: will be raised. But when they're eighteen, they're US citizens. 594 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: They're going to be able to vote in elections, donate 595 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 3: to political campaigns, apply for government jobs. And the problem 596 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: is the scale, the Chinese government and Chinese research firms 597 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: have looked at this dish. I quote them in the book. 598 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 3: They say, over the past thirteen years, every year, roughly 599 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand Chinese babies have been born in the 600 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: United States. Think about that. That do the math. That's 601 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 3: more than a million quote unquote US citizens that are 602 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 3: right now being raised in China. And when they turn eighteen, 603 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 3: that wave will start to crest around twenty thirty. When 604 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 3: that happens, they will be able to start voting. And 605 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: let's remember the twenty sixteen election was settled by what 606 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 3: seven twenty two thousand votes, So this is a massive vulnerability. 607 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: I don't understand how any circumstance you can believe that 608 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 3: birthright citizens should apply in a case when somebody is 609 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 3: literally sticking their toe across the border for the purposes 610 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 3: of giving birth, and these children are being raised in 611 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 3: a cyst under a system, in a society that is 612 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 3: completely anathetical to our own. So China has weaponized migration 613 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: in a different way than Mexico has, but you know, 614 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 3: it's also fraught with peril for our country, and I 615 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 3: think is a vulnerability that the Supreme Court needs to 616 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 3: take into consideration when they consider the birthright citizenship case 617 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 3: later in the spring. 618 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: And I think part of what you're saying is that 619 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: the forms of subversion are actually quite different. 620 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 2: In this case. 621 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: They involve a kind of delayed form of election rigging, 622 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: because as long as our country is closely divided, you 623 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: have elections where twenty twenty, you know, Georgia is decided 624 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: by twelve thousand votes, Arizona about the same. 625 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 2: You if you. 626 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: Can have a substantial number of Chinese a Chinese people 627 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: who are now American citizens, you've just got a pretty 628 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: powerful leverage over the entire political process. And this is 629 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: a type of election rigging I don't believe that we've 630 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,720 Speaker 1: even thought about or talked about before. 631 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very very well said. And Danesh, I mean 632 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 3: it's determined at a state level, but many states make 633 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 3: it very easy to establish residency. All you have to 634 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 3: do is is a week before the election, lease in apartments, 635 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 3: and you can lease an apartment with you know, fifteen 636 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 3: other people listing it as your address, and now you 637 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 3: can vote absentee. By the way, absentee ballot, you know, 638 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 3: millions of legitimate American citizens who work in London, who 639 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 3: work in Beijing. They can mail in their ballots from 640 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 3: overseas military people serving overseas. The same thing can apply 641 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 3: to these quote unquote US citizens I kind of put 642 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 3: them in air quotes that were raised in China. So 643 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 3: it's a massive, massive intrusion into our sovereignty and it 644 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 3: is election rigging. I will add to NSH there's another 645 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: form of this that we have no idea of the 646 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: total numbers, and that is this sort of bizarre behavior 647 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 3: of Chinese elites hiring surrogate mothers in the United States. 648 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,320 Speaker 3: I mean, this sounds like something out of a science 649 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 3: fiction movie. But the Wall Street Journal ran a story 650 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 3: probably eight ten weeks ago on the front page about 651 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: a Chinese billionaire close to the CCP who's done this 652 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 3: one hundred times. He has one hundred children where he 653 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 3: has donated the sperm. A surrogate mother in the United 654 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 3: States has carried the child the term. They get paid 655 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: sixty thousand dollars. The child is born here. The child 656 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 3: has a biological mother who's American, so they're going to 657 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 3: be grants his citizenship. But they're all being raised back 658 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 3: in China. So just one man has more than one hundred. 659 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 3: We know of another case of a CCP official in 660 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: southern California who had twenty six children this way. And 661 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 3: in the research that we did in the book, we 662 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 3: found just in southern California one hundred and seven Chinese 663 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 3: owned surrogacy companies that advertise these services in China. So 664 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 3: we don't even know the numbers related to that. The 665 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 3: irony here, Danashz and I know you lived in California 666 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: for a while. The irony is is that California is 667 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: ground zero for most of this, for the birth tourism 668 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 3: and for the surrogacy, and it's completely unregulated. How many 669 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 3: things could you say California regulated? Not very many. But 670 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 3: for some reason this is and that I think is 671 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 3: a huge vulnerability that we need to look at. 672 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: Well, you say for some reason, but I think we 673 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: actually know the reason, right, because if we think about California, 674 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: it used to be a Reagan country. Even before that 675 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: it was Nixon country. At the very least, you could 676 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: say that California was politically in the balance. California has 677 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: become a one party state. My wife, who's Venezuelan, calls it, 678 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, Calusuela. But it looks like this foreign operation 679 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: that you're describing here with so many different tentacles. Also 680 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: has a domestic ally in the political left and in 681 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: certainly large segments of the Democratic Party. They've realized that 682 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: this clash of civilizations within America represents a lot of 683 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: the things that they believe. 684 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 4: Right. 685 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: They believe in indigenous rights, they believe Columbus was a 686 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: bad guy, they believe in trans ideology. So when they 687 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: see the Muslim brotherhood, when they see the Mexicans the 688 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: Chinese pushing for these things, there is a domestic operation 689 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: that goes, hey, we're getting reinforcements from abroad. We have 690 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: an interest in welcoming these developments. And again, as you say, 691 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: that doesn't have to be open collaboration. They don't necessarily 692 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,720 Speaker 1: get on a zoom call, but they are working toward 693 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: the same end. 694 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the classic Vinn diagram, you know, where you 695 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: have the overlap and the commonality of interests. It's interesting 696 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: that one of the things I have in the book 697 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 3: is a meeting that was held in the Oklahoma City, 698 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 3: Oklahoma Consulate of Mexico, and they had brought consular officials 699 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: from Los Angeles and Orlando and the consulates in between 700 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 3: Mexico as fifty three of them in the United States, 701 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 3: and there were people that flew in from Mexico City, 702 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 3: and they had Democratic Party political activists there as well. Clearly, 703 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,240 Speaker 3: this is not what diplomats are supposed to be doing. 704 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: But one of the things they said, Denesh was we 705 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 3: turned California from red to blue. We turned Arizona from 706 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 3: red to blue. And the conversation in May of twenty 707 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 3: twenty four at the Mexican consul it was how do 708 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 3: we turn other states from red to blue? So there 709 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,759 Speaker 3: are these conversations that are held, but it is this 710 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 3: confluence of interests. And there's a chapter in my book 711 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 3: titled voter Mills, and that term comes from an email 712 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 3: in the Clinton White House when they were trying to 713 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 3: and successfully loosen citizenship requirements to become naturalized in the 714 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 3: United States because they knew it was good politically. They 715 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 3: discovered that about eighty five percent of new citizens were 716 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 3: voting Democratic. So the goal was to ram through as 717 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 3: many new citizens applications as possible, which they did, and 718 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 3: they did it by getting rid of criminal background checks, 719 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 3: by getting rid of literacy requirements, getting rid of the 720 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 3: Civics test requirement, and just sort of pushing them through. 721 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 3: And one of the White House aids said, if people 722 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 3: figure out what we're going to do, they're going to 723 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 3: accuse us of running voter mills. And so when you 724 00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 3: look at what happened under Clinton, under Obama and Joe Biden, 725 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 3: you find the same pattern. The pattern is we want 726 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 3: to create as many new citizens as possible, and we're 727 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 3: going to do that by ignoring criminal background checks and 728 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 3: all these other requirements. And if you look in modern 729 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 3: American history, the three biggest years for naturalizing new citizens 730 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 3: were nineteen ninety six, twenty twelve, and twenty twenty four, 731 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 3: all which were re election years for Democrats. Now my 732 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 3: parents were naturalized American citizens. I think it's wonderful. I 733 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 3: actually like legal immigration, and I like immigrants that adopt 734 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 3: American values to become American citizens. But what the Democrats 735 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 3: have done is that they have taken the citizenship process 736 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 3: and literally turned them into votermills because they are getting 737 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 3: rid of requirements that normally exist. And they see the 738 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 3: political benefits of mass migration, and progressives who I quote 739 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 3: in the book, see it not only as helping elect Democrats, 740 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,799 Speaker 3: but they believe that increased mass migration pushes the Democratic 741 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 3: Party further to the left, so they very clearly see 742 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 3: this as politically benefit beneficial for themselves. 743 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 2: Peter. 744 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: In the book, you have a number of very kojent 745 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: specific recommendations. They have to do with immigration changes, sealing 746 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: the border, rethinking birthright citizenship. But one theme that comes 747 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 1: through really strongly in our conversation right now to me 748 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: is this that as Conservatives, as Republicans, as MAGA types, 749 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: we often think that the left doesn't understand what's going on. 750 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 1: We're always saying to them, you know, we need to 751 00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: explain to the Biden administration why a porous or open 752 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: border is not a good idea. We need to explain 753 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,240 Speaker 1: to Obama why it's not a good idea to give 754 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: all these weapons to Iran. Our underlying assumption, which I 755 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: think actually is an legacy from the Reagan ears, is 756 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: we assume that we're dealing with other guys who have 757 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: the same goals that we do, and we merely have 758 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: to educate them on how it is a better way 759 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: to get from here there. I think what you're saying 760 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: is that they have rival interests. They understand perfectly well 761 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: what's going on they are, in fact, more consciously moving 762 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,919 Speaker 1: toward their own goals than we are, and our strategy 763 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: needs to change. We've got to realize that the problem 764 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: is not that they are uncomprehending. They don't just need 765 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: another carefully worded op ed from us. We need to 766 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: recognize this kind of movement, this strategic effort to subvert 767 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: our country, and treat this as a power struggle, which 768 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: is what it is, and take the steps to shut 769 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: them down. Am I reading you right on this? 770 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, that was so well said Denesh, and I 771 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: agree with you. And one of the things I try. 772 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 2: To do the book. 773 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 3: In the book is quote from the left to themselves. 774 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 3: What do they say about mass migration? How do they 775 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 3: view it? And one theme you find over and over 776 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 3: and over again. Whether it is radicals who are working 777 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 3: for Catholic charities, whether it is refugee groups that is 778 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,880 Speaker 3: funded by Bill Gates and George Sorows, whether it is 779 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 3: progressive political activists with the Democratic Socialists of America, all 780 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 3: of them repeatedly say that mass migration has a transformative 781 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 3: effect on the receiving country that's us, and that that 782 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 3: is a good thing. And they all know and they 783 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: cite the studies that people that come from the developing world, 784 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 3: especially if they are put in communities with people like themselves, 785 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 3: they will not embrace a traditional American values. And in fact, 786 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 3: there's a lot of pressure from these foreign governments and 787 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 3: angos connected to foreign governments not to assimilate. One of 788 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 3: the people that I quote in the book is a 789 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 3: guy named Alejandro Roblaze. He's one of these members who 790 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 3: sits in the Mexican Chamber of Deputies, their Congress, but 791 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 3: he lives outside of Los Angeles, California, and he described 792 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five how Mexicans who came to the 793 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 3: United States adopted American values and assimilated were, in his words, 794 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 3: traders to Mexican And he said that Shinebaumb President Shinbaum 795 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 3: of Mexico agrees with him. And they're all sorts of 796 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 3: things that Mexico, China, the Muslim Brotherhood does to shame 797 00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 3: people that come here from their communities and want to 798 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 3: adopt American values. And the left knows this because many 799 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 3: of them say the same thing. So you are exactly right. 800 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,440 Speaker 3: We are past the point of debating and trying to 801 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 3: persuade the left to see the errors of their ways. 802 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 3: It's not an error of their ways. They know exactly 803 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 3: what's going on, and it's quite successful. They have decided 804 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 3: that because they cannot ultimately win on the national level 805 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 3: in politics, that you need to change the voter pool. 806 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 3: And the way you change the voter pool is by 807 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 3: mass migration and by substantially weakening the citizenship requirements. And 808 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,720 Speaker 3: that's effectively what they've done for the last thirty years. 809 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 1: It's an eye opening book. It's called The Invisible Coup. 810 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: I've been talking to Peter Schweitzer, and Peter what I 811 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 1: take away from all this is that there is a 812 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: kind of war that is underway. 813 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 4: You know. 814 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: I hear people saying, oh, if we strike Iran, it's 815 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: going to be World War three. But part of what 816 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 1: you're saying is that we should be alert to the 817 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: fact that there are new types of warfare, including this one. 818 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: This is a very subtle, but in some ways very 819 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 1: effective form of warfare, particularly because we're so unprepared in 820 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: dealing with it. And so one question I had running 821 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: through my mind listening to you reading your book, is 822 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: world War three? Is it something that's on the horizon 823 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,439 Speaker 1: or is it already here? Peter Schweitzer. Thank you very much. 824 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 3: Ohways, a pleasure. Thanks, Janesh. 825 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: Step into the world of the Dragon's Prophecy on a 826 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 1: tour of the ancient land of Israel. I'm Denesh Jasuza, 827 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: and I'm inviting you to join me and Jonathan Kahn 828 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: for the Dragon's Prophecy Tour. We'll walk the ancient streets 829 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,240 Speaker 1: of Jerusalem and visit iconic landmarks like the Western Wall, 830 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 1: the Sea of Galilee, and the Mount of Olives, exploring 831 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: the real world settings behind the mysteries and what they 832 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 1: reveal about the days we're living in. Book now at 833 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: inspiration travel dot com, slash Dragon or call eight four 834 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: four seven one five two four two five. All right, 835 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: let's close out with some titbits. Now here's something strange. 836 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: A trans Aborigine. 837 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 3: Hi. 838 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 5: My name is Krystal Love Johnson Nabanaga. I come from 839 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 5: Twee Islands and la Amner. I knew that I was different, 840 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 5: you know, when I was growing up, I didn't know 841 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,839 Speaker 5: what was sister girls, okay, and you know we were 842 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 5: just like normal kids playing with coconut dolls. Some of 843 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,399 Speaker 5: the challenges were for me growing up is I thought 844 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 5: that I was a girl. But you know, when you're 845 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 5: coming into society now, and especially in down growing up, 846 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 5: people put you into that category like you have to 847 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 5: be a boy. I had to stick to myself and 848 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 5: to pretend that I'm straight, but you can see that 849 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:17,759 Speaker 5: I'm really feminine. 850 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: You know, the trans phenomenon doesn't really work in aborigine communities. 851 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: No one can tell the difference. Black History Month normally 852 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: a bore yawn z nor the usual problem. Most of 853 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,920 Speaker 1: the really interesting stuff we don't even hear about. We 854 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 1: don't hear about how the Democratic Party was the party 855 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: of the slave plantation. We don't hear about how Democrats 856 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: in Congress overwhelmingly voted against the thirteenth Amendment of the Constitution. 857 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: This was the amendment that permanently outlawed slavery. And so 858 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: for my contribution to Black History Month, I want you 859 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,840 Speaker 1: to envision a group of Democrats in a bar so 860 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty five. Let's see how they might have reacted 861 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: to the end of the Civil War. 862 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 4: We are the Master's getting all master. Let's be honest, 863 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,280 Speaker 4: we're a little bit past. Our deal is now rotten. 864 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 4: You want to pay contentsly, they will surely be missed 865 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 4: one two three Cheers for the masters. What a terrible 866 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 4: say abe Lincoln's to play That Republican. 867 00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,359 Speaker 2: Is a real jerk, good democrat us. 868 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 4: All we were having a ball that we all got 869 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 4: to get up and work. One two three cheer full 870 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 4: of the baskets. M