1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:13,940 Speaker 1: Life Audio. This is Donna Jones, and you are listening 2 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: to That's Just What I Needed. Hey, friend, if you've 3 00:00:17,620 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: ever been in a conversation where you've walked away thinking, wow, 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: that was just what I needed, you know how life-giving 5 00:00:23,390 --> 00:00:26,050 Speaker 1: that can be. Well, that's what this podcast is all about. 6 00:00:26,450 --> 00:00:29,330 Speaker 1: We're women who want to know, love, and follow God 7 00:00:29,490 --> 00:00:32,210 Speaker 1: in our real lives, but sometimes wonder just how to 8 00:00:32,250 --> 00:00:35,010 Speaker 1: do it. So each week, we'll talk about what following 9 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:37,430 Speaker 1: God looks like in the midst of daily demands and 10 00:00:37,670 --> 00:00:41,610 Speaker 1: crazy cultural chaos. Because this isn't just what we need. 11 00:00:41,909 --> 00:00:46,420 Speaker 1: It's actually exactly what we need. Well, hey, hey, my friend. 12 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast. We're doing something a little different today, 13 00:00:50,780 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: and I think you're going to love it. We're going 14 00:00:52,820 --> 00:00:56,130 Speaker 1: to do a two-part series. Each one is going to 15 00:00:56,170 --> 00:00:59,630 Speaker 1: be kind of a short series, but it's short by 16 00:00:59,670 --> 00:01:02,580 Speaker 1: design because I want you to take what we're going 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,660 Speaker 1: to be talking about today and next week, and I 18 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: really want you to ponder what we're talking about because 19 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:13,470 Speaker 1: I think if you do, that you're going to find 20 00:01:13,750 --> 00:01:17,050 Speaker 1: that this is going to be really, really helpful to 21 00:01:17,090 --> 00:01:20,869 Speaker 1: you in many, many ways and helpful to those around 22 00:01:20,910 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: you as well. Before we get started, let me just 23 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,030 Speaker 1: remind you, if you don't subscribe to this podcast, do 24 00:01:27,090 --> 00:01:30,150 Speaker 1: it right now. Hit that subscribe button because you don't 25 00:01:30,190 --> 00:01:32,459 Speaker 1: want to miss anything that I have coming up. And 26 00:01:32,860 --> 00:01:34,950 Speaker 1: I've been telling you, I have some great guests. I 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,140 Speaker 1: really do. So I don't want you to miss a 28 00:01:37,260 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: single episode. Well, what we're going to talk today is 29 00:01:41,020 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: about people who might be draining you of your life, 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,710 Speaker 1: your energy, your purpose, your joy. And the reason that 31 00:01:50,730 --> 00:01:53,490 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking about that today is because 32 00:01:53,530 --> 00:01:56,270 Speaker 1: the Bible has quite a lot to say with how 33 00:01:56,330 --> 00:01:58,950 Speaker 1: we treat each other. And you know, since the Bible 34 00:01:59,030 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: talks about that, it really is It's wise to every 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: once in a while just pause and actually evaluate our relationships, 36 00:02:07,540 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: evaluate who we spend our time with, evaluate the kind 37 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: of conversations that we have. Just take a step back 38 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,090 Speaker 1: and ask ourselves, are the people that I'm surrounding myself with, 39 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:25,769 Speaker 1: are they helping me or hindering me be more like Jesus? 40 00:02:26,290 --> 00:02:28,830 Speaker 1: I wrote a Bible study several years ago on the 41 00:02:28,889 --> 00:02:32,500 Speaker 1: friendships of women. And in that Bible study, I wrote 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: a definition of a good friend. And honestly, ever since 43 00:02:36,340 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: I wrote it, I just have not been able to 44 00:02:38,490 --> 00:02:40,940 Speaker 1: get it out of my mind. And here's the definition. 45 00:02:41,370 --> 00:02:45,169 Speaker 1: A good friend is someone who propels you to be 46 00:02:45,210 --> 00:02:48,610 Speaker 1: the best version of you, the one God had in 47 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:51,549 Speaker 1: mind when He created you. The people that we surround 48 00:02:51,610 --> 00:02:55,329 Speaker 1: ourselves either do one of three things. They either bring 49 00:02:55,389 --> 00:02:57,739 Speaker 1: us up, They bring us down or they keep us 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,859 Speaker 1: the same. And although we can't completely isolate ourselves from 51 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: people that might drain us, I mean, that's just not 52 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,490 Speaker 1: real life, it is wise to actually think through who 53 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:14,850 Speaker 1: your closest relationships are with. And if those people actually 54 00:03:14,930 --> 00:03:17,770 Speaker 1: bring you up, and by bringing you up, I mean 55 00:03:17,810 --> 00:03:19,529 Speaker 1: they propel you to be the best version of you, 56 00:03:20,110 --> 00:03:22,410 Speaker 1: that version that God had in mind when he's created you, 57 00:03:22,810 --> 00:03:25,630 Speaker 1: that version that is becoming more and more like Jesus. 58 00:03:26,210 --> 00:03:30,269 Speaker 1: So let's look at seven types of people who actually 59 00:03:30,370 --> 00:03:34,329 Speaker 1: might not be doing that for you. And you may 60 00:03:34,389 --> 00:03:37,190 Speaker 1: have been surrounded by this kind of person and not 61 00:03:37,330 --> 00:03:40,270 Speaker 1: have even realized it. In fact, instead, you might kind 62 00:03:40,310 --> 00:03:44,460 Speaker 1: of feel a low-grade sense of exhaustion or maybe just 63 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:50,140 Speaker 1: a low-grade sense of anxiety or maybe a low-grade sense 64 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: of depression or lack of joy. And you're thinking, what 65 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: is it? I can't really... pinpoint why I feel this way. Well, 66 00:03:59,220 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: it very well might be the relationships that you're in. 67 00:04:03,380 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: Let's chat about these seven relationships that might be negatively 68 00:04:07,740 --> 00:04:13,020 Speaker 1: affecting your lives. Number one, it's the manipulator. A manipulator 69 00:04:13,540 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: twists things. They use guilt. They use shame. They use emotion, 70 00:04:21,980 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: all in an effort to control you. If you have 71 00:04:25,180 --> 00:04:28,950 Speaker 1: someone in your life who is highly emotional, now, I'm 72 00:04:28,970 --> 00:04:33,050 Speaker 1: not bagging on emotions. We all have emotions. But there 73 00:04:33,110 --> 00:04:39,669 Speaker 1: is a difference between having emotions and using emotions. One 74 00:04:39,810 --> 00:04:44,620 Speaker 1: is human. The other is manipulative. Try to draw the distinction, 75 00:04:44,980 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: if you have a person in your life that's highly emotional, 76 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,380 Speaker 1: between the person just having big emotions or if they're 77 00:04:51,580 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: using those big emotions to control you because there is 78 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: a difference. If their emotions make you feel guilty, if 79 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: their emotions make you feel like you have to do 80 00:05:04,020 --> 00:05:06,300 Speaker 1: what they want you to do, even though that's not 81 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,020 Speaker 1: what really you think is best or you would prefer 82 00:05:10,060 --> 00:05:13,810 Speaker 1: to do, then perhaps that person is manipulative. But it's 83 00:05:13,870 --> 00:05:19,250 Speaker 1: not just emotions that manipulators use. Sometimes manipulators make you 84 00:05:19,330 --> 00:05:23,099 Speaker 1: question your own judgment. Yes, they might play on your emotions, 85 00:05:23,460 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: but their end goal is to really control the outcomes. 86 00:05:27,580 --> 00:05:31,020 Speaker 1: And here's the tricky thing about manipulators. Their words can 87 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:36,210 Speaker 1: even sound spiritual or caring, but their goal is power, 88 00:05:36,690 --> 00:05:40,410 Speaker 1: not your good. And see, that's the difference. The Bible 89 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:44,730 Speaker 1: speaks to this, and it says in 1 Timothy 1.5, 90 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:48,390 Speaker 1: the goal of this command is love, which comes from 91 00:05:48,490 --> 00:05:52,669 Speaker 1: a pure heart, and a good conscience, and a sincere faith. 92 00:05:53,330 --> 00:05:57,750 Speaker 1: Instead of being around manipulators, what we want is to 93 00:05:57,790 --> 00:06:01,770 Speaker 1: surround ourselves with people whose goal is to really love. 94 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, to genuinely love. And genuine love is not 95 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:09,460 Speaker 1: about self. It's about the other person. And it comes 96 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,860 Speaker 1: from a sincere heart. It's not a person who says 97 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:16,060 Speaker 1: one thing to your face and another thing behind your back. 98 00:06:16,500 --> 00:06:18,339 Speaker 1: It's a person with a pure heart. It's a person 99 00:06:18,380 --> 00:06:22,570 Speaker 1: with a good conscience. It's a person who is Christ-like. 100 00:06:23,050 --> 00:06:27,450 Speaker 1: So number one is the manipulator. Number two is the drainer. Now, 101 00:06:27,550 --> 00:06:29,170 Speaker 1: this is the kind of person that just wants to 102 00:06:29,250 --> 00:06:35,580 Speaker 1: vent or complain or take. So you listen, you pray, 103 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:39,820 Speaker 1: you encourage, you show up, but nothing in this person 104 00:06:39,940 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: ever changes. It's a cycle that leaves you emotionally, mentally, 105 00:06:45,490 --> 00:06:49,089 Speaker 1: and spiritually drained. My husband has a word for these 106 00:06:49,130 --> 00:06:52,900 Speaker 1: kinds of people. They're life suckers. There are some people 107 00:06:52,940 --> 00:06:56,500 Speaker 1: that are life givers. You feel so much better when 108 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,460 Speaker 1: you leave their presence because they've just given you life. 109 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,050 Speaker 1: And then there were other people who are life drainers 110 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:04,750 Speaker 1: where they just suck the energy out of you or 111 00:07:04,810 --> 00:07:07,850 Speaker 1: they suck all the oxygen out of the room. So 112 00:07:08,110 --> 00:07:12,810 Speaker 1: if you feel yourself exhausted after you leave a person 113 00:07:13,450 --> 00:07:18,170 Speaker 1: or if you find yourself dreading an interaction with a person, 114 00:07:18,830 --> 00:07:21,290 Speaker 1: then you might be surrounding yourself with a person who 115 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: is a drainer. Matthew 14 reminds us of something powerful 116 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:30,740 Speaker 1: about Jesus. Jesus had compassion, but he didn't waste his 117 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,980 Speaker 1: energy on those who refused to grow. So think about 118 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,730 Speaker 1: that if you surround yourself with drainers. Number three is 119 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:41,150 Speaker 1: the division sower. Now, this is the person who spreads 120 00:07:41,230 --> 00:07:46,970 Speaker 1: gossip or stirs up conflict or undermines others. Now, in 121 00:07:46,990 --> 00:07:50,510 Speaker 1: the church, This person can even sound really spiritual. So 122 00:07:50,610 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: sometimes it's even hard to pinpoint this type of person 123 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:57,820 Speaker 1: because it can come in the form of a prayer 124 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,860 Speaker 1: request or I'm just looking out for your best interest 125 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:04,380 Speaker 1: or I'm just following my biblical conviction. But underneath it all, 126 00:08:04,660 --> 00:08:11,500 Speaker 1: it's not selfless, it's selfish. Because oftentimes they create drama 127 00:08:12,020 --> 00:08:16,270 Speaker 1: or they sow doubt and they secretly cause tension. And 128 00:08:16,590 --> 00:08:20,510 Speaker 1: here's the warning, because helping them often pulls you into 129 00:08:20,590 --> 00:08:23,910 Speaker 1: their darkness and away from the life that God wants 130 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:27,550 Speaker 1: for you. The Bible has some pretty scathing words to 131 00:08:27,610 --> 00:08:31,550 Speaker 1: say about people who are division sowers. In Titus, it says, 132 00:08:31,970 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: warn a divisive person once, but after the second admonition, 133 00:08:37,130 --> 00:08:41,260 Speaker 1: reject them completely. I mean, we don't hear that very 134 00:08:41,300 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: much in the American church, do we? But that's what 135 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:48,970 Speaker 1: God says. So guard yourself against people who are division sowers. 136 00:08:49,770 --> 00:08:53,090 Speaker 1: The fourth type of person is the worshiper. And no, 137 00:08:53,170 --> 00:08:56,290 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about somebody who worships God. That's the 138 00:08:56,309 --> 00:08:58,630 Speaker 1: kind of person you do want to surround yourself with. 139 00:08:59,150 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: This is the kind of person who worships you. Now, 140 00:09:02,380 --> 00:09:07,580 Speaker 1: why is this so unhealthy? Well, because a worshiper depends 141 00:09:07,740 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: on you instead of God. And my friend, we make 142 00:09:11,660 --> 00:09:15,380 Speaker 1: terrible gods because eventually we're going to disappoint someone because 143 00:09:15,420 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: we're not perfect. You're not perfect. I'm not perfect. We 144 00:09:18,970 --> 00:09:22,890 Speaker 1: make mistakes. And so a person who is a worshiper, 145 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:26,590 Speaker 1: if we make a mistake, not only does it not 146 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:28,809 Speaker 1: go well for them, it doesn't go well for us. 147 00:09:29,390 --> 00:09:31,650 Speaker 1: The worshiper is the kind of person that comes to 148 00:09:31,710 --> 00:09:37,470 Speaker 1: you for every prayer, every piece of advice, answers to 149 00:09:37,490 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: their problems. But they often refuse to turn to God 150 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: for themselves. So here's how you know if that's a 151 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,020 Speaker 1: red flag. Your help is causing them to lean more 152 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,750 Speaker 1: on you than on God. The next type of person 153 00:09:51,970 --> 00:09:55,390 Speaker 1: is the distracting person. This is the person that slows 154 00:09:55,410 --> 00:09:58,650 Speaker 1: you down or pulls you off course. Now, I'm not 155 00:09:58,710 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: talking about a person who interrupts your day every once 156 00:10:01,780 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: in a while. That's going to happen. But this is 157 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,030 Speaker 1: the kind of person that every time you're with them, 158 00:10:08,190 --> 00:10:11,830 Speaker 1: you get off track. They may not be bad, but 159 00:10:11,910 --> 00:10:16,190 Speaker 1: they distract you. They discourage you. They make it harder 160 00:10:16,450 --> 00:10:18,790 Speaker 1: to stay focused on what God has called you to do. 161 00:10:19,230 --> 00:10:22,570 Speaker 1: And this can be really subtle because oftentimes this kind 162 00:10:22,590 --> 00:10:26,650 Speaker 1: of person comes across as really fun. So let me 163 00:10:26,670 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: just give you an example. This is off the top 164 00:10:28,130 --> 00:10:31,700 Speaker 1: of my head. Let's just say that your mission is 165 00:10:31,740 --> 00:10:35,740 Speaker 1: to have a family that loves each other, loves God, 166 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:39,339 Speaker 1: and loves other people. And to do that, you know 167 00:10:39,420 --> 00:10:42,740 Speaker 1: that you need to have a really strong marriage. So 168 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,100 Speaker 1: you're out with a bunch of friends and it's getting 169 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: late and you say, you know what, I need to 170 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,540 Speaker 1: get home. Because you want to be home and you 171 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,420 Speaker 1: want to just see your husband and maybe see your 172 00:10:52,490 --> 00:10:54,690 Speaker 1: kids before they go to bed. And this is the 173 00:10:54,730 --> 00:10:59,670 Speaker 1: friend that always says, no, come on, let's stay out. 174 00:11:00,150 --> 00:11:01,950 Speaker 1: And of course, it's fine to do that every once 175 00:11:01,990 --> 00:11:03,750 Speaker 1: in a while. But if you have a friend that's 176 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: constantly taking away from something that is a stated goal 177 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: for you, your husband and your children are your first priority, 178 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,150 Speaker 1: then that may be a person who's distracting you from 179 00:11:16,210 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: your mission. And see, it's hard to spot sometimes with 180 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,260 Speaker 1: a person like that. So just be aware of this 181 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: type of person because you don't want to surround yourself 182 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,310 Speaker 1: with people who consistently take you off mission. Well, the 183 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:34,750 Speaker 1: last type of person that can drain us and keeping 184 00:11:34,809 --> 00:11:36,910 Speaker 1: us from being all that God wants us to be 185 00:11:37,150 --> 00:11:41,090 Speaker 1: is the willfully rebellious person. Now, this is the person 186 00:11:41,290 --> 00:11:45,100 Speaker 1: that knows the truth but they keep choosing the wrong way. 187 00:11:45,420 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: So this is not the person that they're not a Christian, 188 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,140 Speaker 1: they don't know the truth, and they're just living like 189 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,220 Speaker 1: a pagan. No, this is the person that knows what 190 00:11:55,260 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: they're doing is wrong and they keep choosing it. They 191 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,500 Speaker 1: see things like, I know what God says, but, and 192 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,450 Speaker 1: they make excuses or they ignore, or they try to 193 00:12:06,470 --> 00:12:10,189 Speaker 1: get you to make excuses and ignore and join them 194 00:12:10,730 --> 00:12:14,150 Speaker 1: in their sinful ways. You want to avoid these people 195 00:12:14,350 --> 00:12:17,969 Speaker 1: like the plague because they will only take you down 196 00:12:18,170 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: one path and it is not the path that you 197 00:12:21,510 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: want to be in. It's the path of eventual destruction, 198 00:12:24,340 --> 00:12:29,740 Speaker 1: of eventual heartache, of eventual sin. So these are the 199 00:12:29,780 --> 00:12:32,820 Speaker 1: kind of people that you want to avoid. Now, why 200 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:35,020 Speaker 1: did I decide to talk about this today? Well, as 201 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top of the show, the Bible 202 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: has a lot to say about human relationships and sometimes 203 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: we get so used to certain people or behaviors or 204 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:51,590 Speaker 1: patterns that we don't realize how much they're affecting us mentally, emotionally, 205 00:12:51,610 --> 00:12:56,330 Speaker 1: and spiritually. So just because something's common or just because 206 00:12:56,450 --> 00:13:00,190 Speaker 1: something seems familiar to you, it doesn't mean it's healthy 207 00:13:00,210 --> 00:13:04,410 Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean it's okay. And on the converse side, 208 00:13:04,830 --> 00:13:08,990 Speaker 1: it means it's okay to not to surround yourself with 209 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:12,710 Speaker 1: those kind of people on a consistent basis. Loving people 210 00:13:12,770 --> 00:13:16,550 Speaker 1: well doesn't mean giving everyone unlimited access to your life. 211 00:13:17,450 --> 00:13:21,140 Speaker 1: Sometimes loving someone means showing up, but sometimes it means 212 00:13:21,179 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: setting a boundary, and we need the discernment to know 213 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,060 Speaker 1: the difference. But we also need discernment with ourselves. So 214 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: let's be humble enough to look inwardly and ask ourselves, 215 00:13:33,220 --> 00:13:35,709 Speaker 1: are any of these true of me? And if so, 216 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,020 Speaker 1: Let's course correct. Honest assessment of ourselves and of our 217 00:13:40,059 --> 00:13:42,980 Speaker 1: relationships is a sign of maturity and growth. None of 218 00:13:43,059 --> 00:13:46,380 Speaker 1: us has arrived. All of us have room to grow, 219 00:13:46,780 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: but we can't grow if we're unaware of the areas 220 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: that are preventing our growth. So my friend, once again, 221 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: here's the list of seven types of people who quietly 222 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:02,689 Speaker 1: drain your spirit. Number one, the manipulator. Number two, the drainer. 223 00:14:03,490 --> 00:14:10,050 Speaker 1: Number three, the division sower. Four, the worshiper. Five, the distractor. Six, 224 00:14:10,570 --> 00:14:14,530 Speaker 1: the willfully rebellious. Take some time today and just think 225 00:14:14,670 --> 00:14:19,660 Speaker 1: about your relationships. Think through how your relationships could improve 226 00:14:19,820 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: and what God might have in store for you as 227 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,710 Speaker 1: you become more and more like Jesus. Well, I hope 228 00:14:25,730 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: you enjoyed today's episode. I hope it was eye-opening and 229 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,540 Speaker 1: I hope it was just what you needed. And as 230 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,060 Speaker 1: a reminder, don't forget to subscribe to this podcast. Do 231 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: it right now. Follow me on social media at Donna A. 232 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,770 Speaker 1: Jones on Instagram, Donna Jones Speaker and Author on Facebook, 233 00:14:41,790 --> 00:14:43,550 Speaker 1: or jump over to my website and sign up for 234 00:14:43,570 --> 00:14:46,370 Speaker 1: my free newsletter. I can't wait to see you next time, 235 00:14:46,430 --> 00:14:49,310 Speaker 1: my friend, for That's Just What I Needed.