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Speaker 1: to the Big Weekend Pod. I'm Hugh Hewett. Thank you
Speaker 1: for listening. The weekend is going to be full of
Speaker 1: speculation about what President Trump did and what he didn't do,
Speaker 1: why he did what he did, and didn't do what
Speaker 1: he didn't do, and the fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: it's all premature, all of it, because we're at the
Speaker 1: end of the beginning of the showdown with the Mullis.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a big believer that their regime is
Speaker 1: going to collapse anytime soon. But I believe it can
Speaker 1: be cabined. It can be trained not to kill thousands
Speaker 1: of people, not to threaten Israel, not to threaten the
Speaker 1: President of the United States, not to engage in the
Speaker 1: export of terrorism. And the way you train it is
Speaker 1: the same way you train a vicious dog. And you
Speaker 1: hit them really, really hard and put down some of
Speaker 1: them when they've bitten too often. And we know the
Speaker 1: names and the addresses of most of the people at
Speaker 1: the top of the regime. It's a vast structure, though,
Speaker 1: a vast structure of terrorism, the vast structure of repression.
Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to Haviv Reddick Gore, ask k
Speaker 1: Aviv anything. His most recent addition is on the sober
Speaker 1: reality of the depth the defense and depth around the
Speaker 1: Ayatolahamini provided by the RGC the besiege, the police in
Speaker 1: the street, the ordinary cops, and then they imported Taliban,
Speaker 1: They imported Iraqi militias, people who spoke Arabic not Farsi,
Speaker 1: to just mow down people. So you can't underestimate what
Speaker 1: it is that the demonstrators are up against. But the
Speaker 1: civilized world ought to deliver a message that we will
Speaker 1: not accept and we will hit you every time you
Speaker 1: do something like this, even if it doesn't result in
Speaker 1: regime collapse. But I am not one of those who
Speaker 1: thinks that the president promised to act Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: whenever it is don't put me in the category. There's
Speaker 1: a time limit on this because there's no talon with
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, which is one of the great beauties of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: That having been said, other people have different points of
Speaker 2: view on it. So we turned to The Big Weekend
Speaker 2: Pod with our regulars Matt Continetti and Ben Dominic and
Speaker 2: Eli Lake and of course just a little apertif actually
Speaker 2: non aperteef what do we call it? Dessert douglah Marie,
Speaker 2: a little warm up on Indiana's a likely crushing defeat
Speaker 2: in Miami on Monday Night. All that and more coming
Speaker 2: up on this The Big Weekend Pod. Thank you for
Speaker 2: tuning in. Quarner Back America.
Speaker 1: No Weekend in Review show would be complete without Matt Continetti.
Speaker 1: You can follow him on ex at Continetti, you can
Speaker 1: read him at the Wall Street Journal. He is the
Speaker 1: senior scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and Domestic Policy Studies.
Speaker 1: And I do three segments a week with Matt and
Speaker 1: if I were a Jeopardy game, this would be the
Speaker 1: segment called Iran. The segment off air today will be
Speaker 1: called Minnesota, and then category three is pot Pirie and
Speaker 1: the third segment, let's start with Iran Matt I just
Speaker 1: talked with Eli Lay. Nobody knows nothing, but what's your
Speaker 1: assessment of where we are at the end of a
Speaker 1: week of incredible brutality, such a blood soaked evil regime.
Speaker 3: Well, I think where we are is the Iranian regime
Speaker 3: is severely weakened, Hugh. It's lost the legitimacy whatever it
Speaker 3: had left among the Iranian people. The Iranian people no
Speaker 3: longer fear the regime, and as the Stanford scholar of
Speaker 3: bas Milan pointed out in The New York Times this
Speaker 3: morning in a very perceptive piece, repressive regimes need fear.
Speaker 3: Once the people lose fear, the regime is in severe trouble.
Speaker 4: And so what we're at.
Speaker 3: Right now is President Trump has said that he's not
Speaker 3: going to attack because of what he's.
Speaker 4: Heard from other of our allies, and.
Speaker 3: Also because of actions that the Iranian government has taken
Speaker 3: in delaying or not engaging in public execution and slightly
Speaker 3: pulling back on some of the most violent repression it seems.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that the Iranian regime is out
Speaker 3: of the woods.
Speaker 4: Far from it.
Speaker 3: In fact, I think one reason Trump has delayed any
Speaker 3: action is we don't have all the assets in place
Speaker 3: necessary for a strike that would truly help the protesters,
Speaker 3: truly punish the Iranian government in such a.
Speaker 4: Way that it would both.
Speaker 3: Lack the capacity to suppres its own people and to
Speaker 3: retaliate against the United States in our allies. But those
Speaker 3: assets are moving. We have an aircraft carrier group moving
Speaker 3: to the region. Now we are getting other armaments and
Speaker 3: platforms in place. So I think we're at the one
Speaker 3: stage of the crisis, but that Iran will continue to
Speaker 3: dominate American foreign policy in the months ahead.
Speaker 1: I keep saying mac Conna that this is the end
Speaker 1: of the beginning of the Trump policy towards Iran. The
Speaker 1: beginning was Operation Midnight Hammer. Then he's had eight days
Speaker 1: of ramped up threats beginning on this program eight days ago,
Speaker 1: and then he kept it up sort of Sean Hannity
Speaker 1: through the weekend. Then he began to dial it back.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what he's going to do. Nothing
Speaker 1: will surprise me. But as he opened to criticism, if say,
Speaker 1: sixty days from now, nothing has happened, and the thousands
Speaker 1: who were jailed, in addition to the thousands who were killed,
Speaker 1: are still jailed, that he baited and switched the Iranian
Speaker 1: public into demonstrating.
Speaker 3: You never want to draw a red line and then
Speaker 3: back down from it, because that erodes American deterrence. And
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has built up American deterrence over the course
Speaker 3: of his two presidencies, and most spectacularly with Operation Midnight
Speaker 3: Hammer against the Iranian nuclear program, and then just two
Speaker 3: weeks ago with Aberration Absolute Resolve extracting and arresting Nicholas
Speaker 3: Madureau from Venezuela.
Speaker 4: He's built up our deterrence.
Speaker 3: So if ultimately that red line is not enforced, that
Speaker 3: would erode American deterrence, and our enemies throughout the globe
Speaker 3: would notice it and be prepared to act and exploit it.
Speaker 4: But I don't think we're there yet.
Speaker 3: I think what Trump has said is he's laid kind
Speaker 3: of the predicate that, Okay, he's changed some of the
Speaker 3: regime's behavior. He has coerced the regime into delaying these executions,
Speaker 3: into backing off some of the worst, most egregious killing,
Speaker 3: and therefore he doesn't need to enforce the red line.
Speaker 3: But I think he's going to face another crisis down
Speaker 3: the road where he'll be tasked again. Are you going
Speaker 3: to enforce the red line. The question who is what
Speaker 3: does Donald Trump want out of Iran? Donald Trump doesn't.
Speaker 3: He's not in the regime change business. He's in the
Speaker 3: regime coercion business. He wants to shape what these governments do,
Speaker 3: and in this case, what he wanted them to do
Speaker 3: was stop killing the protesters. And in larger Iranian policy,
Speaker 3: he wants a complete and verified denuclearization and massive restrictions
Speaker 3: on their missile program. If he doesn't get it through diplomacy,
Speaker 3: he's going to act militarily. We've seen that before.
Speaker 1: So thirty seconds do we go to break matt and
Speaker 1: turn to Minnesota. Well do you think Prime Minister and
Speaker 1: at Yahoo asked of him or didn't ask of him.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say, but every time you draw a
Speaker 3: red line, you have to be prepared for all the
Speaker 3: secondary consequences. And a strike on Iran by the United
Speaker 3: States would mean that the Iranians would retaliate, and that
Speaker 3: retaliation would be most likely directed to the Little Satan
Speaker 3: what the Iranians call the Israel the Jewish State. And
Speaker 3: I think we're at a place, after the Twelve Day War,
Speaker 3: after Operation Midnight Hammer, where we need to replenish our munitions,
Speaker 3: in particular our air defens It's not just Israel, but
Speaker 3: also American forces in the region and our offensive munitions,
Speaker 3: right the actual bombs that we would drop in any campaign.
Speaker 3: So it's a moment of preparation. The action may come later.
Speaker 5: Stay tuned in America. I'm going to talk with Matt Off.
Speaker 1: They are put it on the podcast and he'll be
Speaker 1: back on the other side of the break. Follow him
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Speaker 1: I'm on special Report tonight, and if Minnesota comes up,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make the obvious point, which I don't
Speaker 1: know if any many people know. Minnesota is a wash
Speaker 1: in privately held handguns. It's an open carry state. It's
Speaker 1: a consailed carry state. The permits are shall issue permits.
Speaker 1: The ICE agents have every right to be there. The
Speaker 1: state and the local government are not cooperating.
Speaker 5: But Boyle boy Is.
Speaker 1: It's already one dead, and I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be justified force. But how dangerous a moment is this
Speaker 1: for the people in the Twin Cities and for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Well, it's an incredibly dangerous moment for the people in
Speaker 3: the Twin Cities, and for America's federal law enforcement Agency ICE,
Speaker 3: which is there to enforce the law, to enforce the
Speaker 3: law against illegal immigration and in particular against the legal
Speaker 3: immigrants who have committed violent crimes. You know, amidst all
Speaker 3: this debate, Hugh, you have to step back and ask
Speaker 3: who is responsible for this combustible situation. And I have
Speaker 3: to say, I don't believe it's either the government, the
Speaker 3: elected government of Donald Trump, or the agents who are
Speaker 3: trying to enforce policy in the law who are responsible
Speaker 3: for this mess we have in Minnesota. I believe it's
Speaker 3: the elected officials at the local and state level who
Speaker 3: have turned both many outs Bliss and Minnesota at large
Speaker 3: into a sanctuary for illegal migration, and who are not
Speaker 3: providing any assistance to the federal law enforcements, who are
Speaker 3: there by an elected government to actually make sure that illegal,
Speaker 3: violent criminals are taken off the streets now. And yet
Speaker 3: all of the discourse I see is placing blame on
Speaker 3: the ICE agents. I think that's a complete misallocation of responsibility.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, no one at the state level is trying
Speaker 3: to quiet the situation.
Speaker 5: I think it'll be an issue in their governor's race
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 1: But I have heard that Florida has had forty thousand
Speaker 1: apprehensions by ICE without an incident, and that is because
Speaker 1: Florida assists ICE in doing their job, and I just
Speaker 1: wish that point were made more often. I do think
Speaker 1: it's a political net negative for Donald Trump.
Speaker 5: Do you agree with me, Matt?
Speaker 3: I think that you've definitely seen an uptick in people
Speaker 3: who are leery of some of ICE tactics, and you'd
Speaker 3: see people.
Speaker 4: Who are like, what's going on, but they don't like
Speaker 4: the chaos.
Speaker 3: They get into the kind of that cocoon, that crouch,
Speaker 3: that defensive crouch.
Speaker 4: Make it stop right, yep. But look, you think of
Speaker 4: twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: In the summer of twenty twenty, amidst all the rioting,
Speaker 3: people thought, oh, Trump might be hurt by all this chaos.
Speaker 3: What happened in the twenty twenty election. Republicans overperformed. Why
Speaker 3: Because at the end of the day, voters want law
Speaker 3: and order. They don't want anarchy and violence. And the
Speaker 3: anarchy and violence that we're seeing in Minnesota right now. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it might hurt Donald Trump and some of these polls
Speaker 3: we're looking at, but in the long term. If the
Speaker 3: Democrats are on the side of abolish ice and contest
Speaker 3: and open borders and allow illegal, violent criminals to remain
Speaker 3: in place, the Democrats are going to suffer from.
Speaker 1: Your word, from your lips to the ears of every voter.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned. I'll be right back with Matt Kottenetty.
Speaker 2: Well with it.
Speaker 6: To see Data has been dealing with us on Greenland.
Speaker 6: We need Greenland for national security very badly. If we
Speaker 6: don't have it, we have a big hole in national security,
Speaker 6: especially when it comes to what we're doing.
Speaker 4: In terms of the Golden Dome and all.
Speaker 6: Of the other things. We have a lot of a
Speaker 6: lot of investments in the military. We have got the
Speaker 6: strongest military in the world that is only getting stronger.
Speaker 6: And you saw that with Venezuela. You saw that with
Speaker 6: the attack on a run, with the knocking out their
Speaker 6: nuclear capabilities potentially. So yeah, we're talking to Data.
Speaker 1: We're welcome back America, President Trump on the White House
Speaker 1: lawn today, Matt Continetty is still with me from AEI
Speaker 1: and the Wall Street Journal. Matt Greenland, I made a
Speaker 1: big case for taking Greenland. On America's Newsroom with Dana
Speaker 1: Brino Bill Hemry yesterday Golden Dome aside, and that's a
Speaker 1: big deal on Golden Dome because hypersonics can come over
Speaker 1: the pole and regularly icbm's come over the pole. But
Speaker 1: because there's a two hundred and thirty mile exclusive economic
Speaker 1: zone around every one of the twenty seven thousand miles
Speaker 1: of shoreline that Greenland has, and that's fishing, and that's oil,
Speaker 1: but fishing primarily. And then today the Solect Committee on
Speaker 1: China did me a solid by putting out the report
Speaker 1: on Chinese overfishing that they are predators, they destroy environments.
Speaker 1: Do you think the message is getting past the late
Speaker 1: night comics that this is a serious issue?
Speaker 3: Hard to say, you know, it's hard to go out
Speaker 3: there and see who is in favor of Donald Trump's
Speaker 3: policy toward Greenland other than President Trump.
Speaker 4: And I mean I would like Greenland as well.
Speaker 3: I think it's extremely important geopolitically, economically, as you say,
Speaker 3: in terms of the resources, where we think about building
Speaker 3: up our stockpile of rare earth minerals, they are plentiful
Speaker 3: in Greenland.
Speaker 4: It's important.
Speaker 3: But the type of approach Trump is taking the Greenland
Speaker 3: I don't see much public support for in the polls
Speaker 3: are in Congress. Even what I do see is this
Speaker 3: a parallel between Donald Trump's approach to Greenland and the
Speaker 3: second term and his approach to NATO in the first term. Remember, Hugh,
Speaker 3: when Donald Trump started telling NATO that they needed to
Speaker 3: anti up, they need to begin contributing to the burden
Speaker 3: of defense in the European continent and in the Alliance
Speaker 3: at large, the Europeans screamed, they protested, and we were
Speaker 3: treated to endless news cycles about is Donald Trump going
Speaker 3: to destroy NATO?
Speaker 4: Donald Trump against our allies? What was the net result?
Speaker 4: They're paying, They're paying the five percent. And it was
Speaker 4: a you know, it was a difficult process. It was
Speaker 4: a contested process.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, NATO was stronger
Speaker 3: for the Donald Trump's intervention than it was before. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised that if the end of Donald Trump's
Speaker 3: second term, NATO is committed to Greenland's defense. There's a
Speaker 3: much larger American presence here. America has a greater role
Speaker 3: in Greenland's economy and has a.
Speaker 4: Secure foothold in it geopolitically. And that will be the result.
Speaker 3: Despite all of the battling and negotiations and crying just
Speaker 3: like we saw in the first term over defense spending overall.
Speaker 1: Now, by the time we talk again, Matt Conney, we'll
Speaker 1: be past the one year anniversary of Donald Trump's second term,
Speaker 1: so he's got first year done next Tuesday. Who's the
Speaker 1: best communicator after the President and the Vice President and
Speaker 1: Secretary of Rubio, they're one, two and three and whatever
Speaker 1: worder you want to go, Who communicates well on behalf
Speaker 1: of this administration?
Speaker 3: Well, I think Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt is a fantastic
Speaker 3: Press Secretary and an excellent communicator. I think you're looking
Speaker 3: at other cabinet members who I think Secretary Duffy at
Speaker 3: Transportation has been very good, very effective, and Secretary Hegseth
Speaker 3: has definitely achieved the goal that Donald Trump gave him
Speaker 3: at the outset of his second term, which is reinvigorate
Speaker 3: America's military. And so we see that because of Hegeset's
Speaker 3: personality and his dynamism, among other factors, a recruitment has
Speaker 3: shot back up, and the services are fulfilling their goals,
Speaker 3: and there's a real emphasis on war making rather than
Speaker 3: identity politics and environmentalism at the Pentagon, like you've seen
Speaker 3: in democratic administrations. So I think there's a wealth of
Speaker 3: talent in this cabinet. And let's not forget that Secretary
Speaker 3: Kennedy has an entire constituency all.
Speaker 4: Of his own.
Speaker 3: And the way in which they've introduced some of these
Speaker 3: dietary reforms I think has been well received in all quarters.
Speaker 3: So there's definitely a lot of communicators in this administration.
Speaker 1: But some of them have been sent to the witness
Speaker 1: Protection program. Peter Navarro comes to mind. Yes, he's been,
Speaker 1: and he puts out a column every now and then.
Speaker 1: And I've known Peter for forty years, so it's I
Speaker 1: can see him, I'm aware of him. Are there others
Speaker 1: who ought to go into the witness protection program who
Speaker 1: don't do help, don't do good by the administration's messaging?
Speaker 3: Now on the cabinet side, I mean, in addition to
Speaker 3: the individual you mentioned, of course, the d NI Chelsea Gabbard,
Speaker 3: seems to be you're right, absent from many crucial decisions.
Speaker 3: And I heard the joke in Washington that d and
Speaker 3: I now stands for do not invite, So that might
Speaker 3: that might reflect the President's view of that of that
Speaker 3: personality within the cabinet. Well, I think I think the
Speaker 3: biggest challenge facing the administration as it goes into its
Speaker 3: second term is focus.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump called himself the upgrader.
Speaker 3: In his interview with The New York Times, and I
Speaker 3: think it's a great way to think about what he's
Speaker 3: trying to do in his second term. He's trying to
Speaker 3: upgrade America, and that is not going to be easy.
Speaker 3: But when you ask American voters what they're most concerned about,
Speaker 3: it's the economy, and they really need to get to
Speaker 3: the point where their wages are not only outpacing inflation,
Speaker 3: which they've they've been doing under Trump this past year,
Speaker 3: those wage gains need to make up for all the
Speaker 3: ground we lost during Biden.
Speaker 4: Now not there yet.
Speaker 1: Some controversies are self selected with that. One of those
Speaker 1: is Senator Kelly and Secretary hag Seth. If I have
Speaker 1: I had twenty minutes with the President. They didn't ask
Speaker 1: for my advice. But if they ever did ask for
Speaker 1: my advice, I said, take everything off the table except
Speaker 1: the economy. And when you smash somebody up like Iran,
Speaker 1: don't talk about Senator Kelly, don't talk about Democrats, and
Speaker 1: get the job done.
Speaker 5: With ice without talking about it. What would your advice be.
Speaker 4: I think that's I think that's right.
Speaker 3: I think that the government can really only accomplish one
Speaker 3: thing at a time. But Donald Trumps personality is everywhere,
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 4: He doesn't stop.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's renovating the East rebuilding the East Wing,
Speaker 3: He's thinking of renovating the West Wing. He's repainted the
Speaker 3: Trump Kennedy Center. He's renaming the Department of Defense to
Speaker 3: the Department of War.
Speaker 4: He closed the Southern borders.
Speaker 3: He ended the Iranian nuclear program, which the Iranian foreign
Speaker 3: minister admitted to our friend Brett Berry this week.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you notice that as well. He is the
Speaker 4: very embodiment of an activist president, just like Teddy Roosevelt.
Speaker 3: They need to focus on the economy, but that's just
Speaker 3: not in Donald Trump's DNAX.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we just got everyone else to focus on
Speaker 2: the economy and let the president set his on agenda,
Speaker 2: that would be helpful for Republicans. I think Matt Conney,
Speaker 2: thank you stay tuned in America or any even Grace
Speaker 2: in America.
Speaker 1: The Big Weekend Pod and the Weekend Show underway, Ben
Speaker 1: Dominance showing us as we do on most Fridays when
Speaker 1: he's awake. He's got a newborn, so it's all a
Speaker 1: question of whether or not he's awake. However, with a newborn,
Speaker 1: you get to catch.
Speaker 7: Up on the late that's deeply unsair you I am.
Speaker 7: I am typically awake nineteen to twenty hours out of
Speaker 7: the day.
Speaker 5: Don't drop the baby. Don't drop the baby, That's all
Speaker 5: I would say.
Speaker 3: Ben.
Speaker 1: That means you're up in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: so you're caught up on everything that happened with Iran
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: I'm starting there and we might we might end there
Speaker 2: as well. On a half an hour.
Speaker 7: What do you think, Well, personally, I think that the
Speaker 7: President was trying to send the signal and he did.
Speaker 7: I don't know that it's going to result in the
Speaker 7: effectuation of what he'd like to achieve. But look, I
Speaker 7: think that we're dealing right now with the situation that
Speaker 7: is basically unprecedented, certainly in my lifetime, and is closer
Speaker 7: to the kind of upheaval that could lead to a
Speaker 7: regime change there that we than we have seen in
Speaker 7: the past, and certainly under Obama where we saw the
Speaker 7: Green Revolution and everything that led to we have seen
Speaker 7: so much in terms of the bad decisions of past
Speaker 7: presidencies relates to Ron and so we have a glimpse
Speaker 7: of possibility here, but we're also operating. I think, Hugh
Speaker 7: in in really a dearth of internal knowledge to a
Speaker 7: greater degree than we've had with a lot of other conflicts,
Speaker 7: a lot of other protests, and I think that that
Speaker 7: hampers our ability to analyze the situation, just given the
Speaker 7: fact that there are so many moving parts, there are
Speaker 7: so many people involved, and we don't really have a
Speaker 7: clear indication of what is going to come next. Now
Speaker 7: we have seen a number of different you know, other parties,
Speaker 7: wigh in, We've seen the you know, the simple facts
Speaker 7: that I think, you know, the the presence, the continued
Speaker 7: presence of the ability of the Iranians to access outside internet,
Speaker 7: you know, capabilities which you know, the regime has obviously
Speaker 7: attempted to crack down on and has had hit or
Speaker 7: miss success with. Is is really you know a major
Speaker 7: factor here, because the more that the world and see
Speaker 7: what's going on inside Iran, the more that you can
Speaker 7: see reactions from the various parties involved. And I think
Speaker 7: a big open question about all of this is what
Speaker 7: the Chinese think whether they think this is a possibility
Speaker 7: of a situation where in a transactional relationship they need
Speaker 7: to make a determination that this is not something where
Speaker 7: we need to get heavily involved, or whether it's one
Speaker 7: where they want to lean in on this relationship, believe
Speaker 7: in this regime, believe that it's going to maintain its
Speaker 7: previous power, and that's something that I think is still an.
Speaker 1: Open question now, Ben Dominic, I didn't begin the segment
Speaker 1: as I should by saying, you host the Big Ben
Speaker 1: Pod every week and I've saved it. I haven't listened
Speaker 1: to it this week yet because I've saved it for
Speaker 1: a long trundle tomorrow morning, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've talked about it yet. So if you did, pardon me,
Speaker 1: President Trump, we could go on this program on Sean
Speaker 1: Hannity's program and a poll aside with Tony Deakoppold online
Speaker 1: gave the appearance of an imminent strike to the extent
Speaker 1: that we already see online taco and President Trump chicken out.
Speaker 1: I think that's deeply unfair because I think we're at
Speaker 1: the end of the beginning of the first year of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Iron and Operation midnight Hammer buys you
Speaker 1: a lot of credibility, and I think you might get
Speaker 1: a window of two months before you can say even
Speaker 1: begin to argue he led people into the streets where
Speaker 1: they got killed on the false premise that he was
Speaker 1: going to act. Did you cover that?
Speaker 5: What do you think of that charge that is online
Speaker 5: already about the president?
Speaker 7: I covered that extensively and had an interview with Ben
Speaker 7: and Ben Tellablue, who you may have fought, Oh, yes,
Speaker 7: very good FDD on this same topic at length. And
Speaker 7: one of the things that I think is clear is that,
Speaker 7: you know, the president has used in the past his
Speaker 7: unpredictability to greater effect. Whether that's going to turn out
Speaker 7: the same in this situation, I think is a riskier prospect.
Speaker 7: The other thing to keep in mind is that the
Speaker 7: president has run up toward something some things like this
Speaker 7: in the past and then pulled back. He also, you know,
Speaker 7: has had the potential of pulling back and then pulled
Speaker 7: the trigger. I mean, you know, you know how quickly
Speaker 7: we forget the idea that, oh, I'm going to think
Speaker 7: about it for the next two weeks as it relates
Speaker 7: to the Iranian nuclear program, you know, And that's the
Speaker 7: kind of attitude that the president has, and I'm not
Speaker 7: entirely sure that we can say, as you know, analysts
Speaker 7: looking at this situation and relying as we do on
Speaker 7: sources who are both within and around the administration, that
Speaker 7: this was a situation where that was as imminent as
Speaker 7: he seemed to indicate. You know, it could be posturing,
Speaker 7: It could be posturing to effect. But look, this is
Speaker 7: a scenario where I think a lot of people are
Speaker 7: very much bullish on the idea that this is a
Speaker 7: broad based revolt against the regime. It's not just something
Speaker 7: that is confined to one sector or to one aggrieved part.
Speaker 7: The inflation concerns, the middle class concerns, or i should say,
Speaker 7: perhaps the merchant class concerns regarding everything that's going on
Speaker 7: in the economy, in addition to the opposition generally to
Speaker 7: the regime's posture towards the West and the and the
Speaker 7: willingness of this next generation of Iranians to be more
Speaker 7: open to the West is something that is very real
Speaker 7: and we shouldn't pretend like it isn't. But that doesn't
Speaker 7: mean that this is going to be a situation where
Speaker 7: you see, you know, potentially, you know, people who are
Speaker 7: going to willingly go into exile or or leave the
Speaker 7: kind of leadership behind. It's also a situation where I
Speaker 7: think we have to pay a lot of attention to
Speaker 7: what the IRGC is doing and whether they are going
Speaker 7: to be, you know, effectuating the kind of killings that
Speaker 7: we've seen them do just ad nauseum, you know, without
Speaker 7: any kind of pre prevention. Uh, without you know, any
Speaker 7: kind of pushback from protesters who are unarmed and who
Speaker 7: are incapable of defending themselves and unable at this point
Speaker 7: to get their message out.
Speaker 1: We haven't not seen anything like this, Ben, and I
Speaker 1: use my term not seeing anything since Tannaman Square, which
Speaker 1: we did not see, right, we know what happened, but
Speaker 1: we did not see it, And we know what happened here,
Speaker 1: but we did not see it. I'm not sure America
Speaker 1: ever responded appropriately to Tianeman or or reacted appropriately to
Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party thereafter. Do you think that we
Speaker 1: ought to release whatever video comes out as soon as
Speaker 1: the Internet opens up, because it will be as yas
Speaker 1: Realise said, yashare relasaid, there's going to be an avalanche
Speaker 1: of these videos once they're reconnected.
Speaker 5: I want them everywhere.
Speaker 7: I completely agree with that, and I think that it's
Speaker 7: something that is in the American interest to do so,
Speaker 7: but also in the interest of the world. One thing
Speaker 7: that we should understand is how much this is a
Speaker 7: This is a destabilizing element, you know, not just in
Speaker 7: terms of American interests in the Middle East or the
Speaker 7: interests of Israel or the interests of our allies. Is
Speaker 7: something that I think really reshapes the globe. You have
Speaker 7: so many connections that Iran has had, and you have
Speaker 7: this unique moment where it has lost its proxy in Venezuela.
Speaker 7: It has lost so much support that it can depend upon.
Speaker 7: In the past, it has had its nuclear programs set
Speaker 7: back in an embarrassing way. It has had its military
Speaker 7: proxies across the Middle East set back. And this is truly,
Speaker 7: I think, a unique moment where something like this might
Speaker 7: actually work. And you know, look, we're not talking about
Speaker 7: American and regime change. That is not what we are
Speaker 7: embarked upon. We are not attempting to remake Iran in
Speaker 7: any way. This is something that is coming from inside
Speaker 7: and supporting it from the outside is something that is
Speaker 7: in America's interest and it is in the interest by
Speaker 7: the way of a lot of decrepit European powers, whether
Speaker 7: they want to acknowledge that or not. And that's something
Speaker 7: that I think has to result in a change in
Speaker 7: behavior on the part of leadership. And so much of
Speaker 7: what the President has done in this second term is
Speaker 7: about breaking open the assumptions on the part of foreign
Speaker 7: policy bigwigs and experts that have dated back decades about
Speaker 7: what was possible. And he's done this in so many
Speaker 7: different regards, and this could be another example of that.
Speaker 7: It could also be a situation where unfortunately, once again,
Speaker 7: the brutality of a horrible regime that has subjugated as
Speaker 7: people and is willing to kill them in the tens
Speaker 7: of thousands in order to maintain their control is just
Speaker 7: reasserts itself in a very bloody way.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm going to talk about decrepit European regime during
Speaker 1: the break when Denmark and Greenland come up with Ben.
Speaker 1: But before we go there, we got two minutes.
Speaker 6: Ben.
Speaker 1: What about simply saying it not the opportunity, not an excuse,
Speaker 1: but simply saying there are standards which, if you're not
Speaker 1: a superpower, will evoke a response from the West. And
Speaker 1: here's the response. Blow up carg Island, blow up IOGC
Speaker 1: head quarter. If you do this, this will follow a
Speaker 1: way of training the regime kind of called it regime coercion,
Speaker 1: not regime change. Regime coercion. I think that would be
Speaker 1: good hygiene for the world.
Speaker 7: I think it would be good hygiene. But I'm not
Speaker 7: sure the president is willing to roll the dice on
Speaker 7: that he likes so much, these targeted things where there
Speaker 7: is a very clear goal point, of very clear progression,
Speaker 7: and I'm not sure that he's willing to go down
Speaker 7: this road of picking targets and going after them in
Speaker 7: such a way. Perhaps he is. That to me would
Speaker 7: represent a bit of a break with his personality as
Speaker 7: it relates to these things where he just likes binaries.
Speaker 7: He likes do does the Iranian nuclear program exist or not?
Speaker 7: Is Maduro in charge of Venezuela or not? And in
Speaker 7: the sense of the IRGC, you could you can bomb
Speaker 7: a lot of things.
Speaker 2: Certainly that plays why carg Island comes to mind. Is
Speaker 2: carg Island sending any oil to the world or not?
Speaker 7: I mean, that's that's perhaps if you could be convinced
Speaker 7: that that it's a binary that would result in the change.
Speaker 7: Then I think perhaps that argument from Bacon that he
Speaker 7: could work, don't.
Speaker 5: Go anywhere America.
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk with Ben during the break about
Speaker 2: Greenland and Denmark decrepit here in European Regime column, and
Speaker 2: then we're coming back and talk about Ice and the
Speaker 2: brave men and women thereof, and the crazy lunatics who
Speaker 2: are putting into the Twin Cities no matter.
Speaker 5: How bold it gets.
Speaker 1: Stay here, Ben Dominich. I like Denmark. I like the
Speaker 1: Little Mermaid statue. I think it's quaint. They were alongside
Speaker 1: of us in Afghanistan for a long time, eighteen thousand
Speaker 1: deployed there.
Speaker 5: They have twenty ships.
Speaker 2: Greenland has got twenty seven thousand miles of coastline, and
Speaker 2: out from those twenty seven thousand miles of coastline extends
Speaker 2: an exclusive economic zone of two hundred and thirty miles
Speaker 2: that they can't protect from even Chinese predatory fishing practices,
Speaker 2: which are our legend.
Speaker 5: Do you think people are taking this seriously.
Speaker 2: Enough, because it's beyond hypersonics and Golden Dome, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of reason to put Greenland under our umbrella.
Speaker 7: Well, I think that people don't really understand this and
Speaker 7: this is a defect of you know, both American education
Speaker 7: and the way that people, you know, commit absolute crimes
Speaker 7: when it comes to the depiction of Trumpian ideas as
Speaker 7: being high falutin and out of out of the realm
Speaker 7: of possibility. Is absolutely in the American security interest to
Speaker 7: have Greenland protected and to have it under our security umbrella,
Speaker 7: There's no question about it. And I think in anticipation
Speaker 7: of the kind of conflicts that we could potentially see
Speaker 7: in the future, it is perhaps essential to that type
Speaker 7: of protection to have some type of security agreement with
Speaker 7: the Danes and with and with Greenland would be from
Speaker 7: my perspective, the ideal, I don't necessary. I don't think
Speaker 7: that an annexation or anything along those lines is necessary,
Speaker 7: but I do think that we need to have them,
Speaker 7: you know, essentially under our overarching umbrella in order to
Speaker 7: protect them and protect our own security. Understanding that you know,
Speaker 7: look the climate and uh and what is going to
Speaker 7: happen in the Arctic Circle in the future. It's going
Speaker 7: to be one where this becomes all the more important.
Speaker 7: And the discussion about this has turned into this kind
Speaker 7: of fanciful late night talk show. They're making fun of
Speaker 7: everything you know associated with it. I think it's deeply serious.
Speaker 7: I think it's incredibly important. It's it's as important I
Speaker 7: would say, it's saying, you know, does Hawaii matter to
Speaker 7: the United States? Of course, Hawaii matters the United States.
Speaker 7: You know, the idea that we're not going to have,
Speaker 7: you know, a projection of the of the well exactly.
Speaker 7: I mean, this is just like it's madness to pretend
Speaker 7: like this doesn't matter. It obviously does, and to tend
Speaker 7: and turn around and turn this into some kind of
Speaker 7: fanciful discussion is absurd and unseerious. But then I mean
Speaker 7: we're used to that by maw.
Speaker 1: Now when you write for the Transfoer or the Spectator,
Speaker 1: have you written at length about it? Because I don't
Speaker 1: know that anyone really has written at length about Greenland
Speaker 1: from a serious standpoint.
Speaker 7: You know, I've dodged off various things, But you're right,
Speaker 7: I probably should do something longer. And perhaps I can
Speaker 7: use that as an excuse for a vacation after the
Speaker 7: baby is it sticks on, don't take the baby the Greenland.
Speaker 5: Don't take your wife to Greenland.
Speaker 7: Oh, this would be this would be an entirely cold
Speaker 7: escapism on my no.
Speaker 5: I spent it here in Iceland one weekend. No, don't
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 2: I'll be right back with Ben Dobbin at Stay Tuned Minneapolis.
Speaker 5: Our own Greenland is next. Welcome back, America.
Speaker 1: I'm go Hewett, joined by Ben Dominic, host of the
Speaker 1: Big Ben podcast, which you got to listen to. I'll
Speaker 1: be listening to it on my long trundle this weekend.
Speaker 1: It's Fox Podcast. It's also wherever podcasts are available. Read
Speaker 1: Ben at the Spectator, where he's an editor at large.
Speaker 5: Read him at the Transom on substack. Ben.
Speaker 1: Most people listen to the show know that I came
Speaker 1: to shot twenty five years ago after a decade of
Speaker 1: being one of the co hosts of the nightly news
Speaker 1: and public affairs show for the PBS affiliate in LA
Speaker 1: and Casey et and almost weekly and sometimes almost nightly.
Speaker 1: We were talking about whether or not the use of
Speaker 1: force by the police of LA or the Sheriff's Department
Speaker 1: in the County of Los Angeles was appropriate.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 1: It was Rodney Kings decade, and so that was every
Speaker 1: night we went through like police chief after police chief
Speaker 1: after police chief, Gates and Bernie and Willie, they just
Speaker 1: they kept coming because no one could get it right.
Speaker 7: Now, Chevy, is hev correct me if I'm wrong? Is
Speaker 7: he the last president who did the Insurrection Act?
Speaker 1: I don't know he did do the Insurrection Act for
Speaker 1: the riots that was my first second month in TV.
Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, yeah, I think he did. I believe he's
Speaker 7: the last one to do it, all right, So forgive
Speaker 7: me for interrupting.
Speaker 5: No, Well, we take that experience.
Speaker 1: And now I'm up north where I know Minnesota through
Speaker 1: the State Fair and radio bits with I am twelve
Speaker 1: eighty the Patriot Friends and Minnesota and ice is real.
Speaker 5: It's real.
Speaker 2: It's the different place up there, and now it's got this.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't add up that the LA storylines are
Speaker 1: now suddenly in the Twin Cities. And I put it
Speaker 1: down to over indexing for buffoonery in leadership.
Speaker 5: What do you put it down to?
Speaker 7: Well, I think that that is part of it. But
Speaker 7: I also think, and my friend Ryan Gardeski has pointed
Speaker 7: out that if you add up, if you tabulate the
Speaker 7: arrests and deportations from Minnesota over the course of the
Speaker 7: past year, meaning that the second Trump term, it amounts
Speaker 7: to approximately, according to estimates, around two percent of the
Speaker 7: population of illegal immigrants in the state. That may sound
Speaker 7: small to people, that's actually a huge amount. And I
Speaker 7: think that what that has done, given that that is
Speaker 7: an outside number of people who are participants in the
Speaker 7: democratic side of the politics of the States, it has
Speaker 7: exacerbated the more extreme elements of the Democratic Party there
Speaker 7: in ways that are some that have been somewhat unpredictable,
Speaker 7: but now seem to be consistent with a very violent
Speaker 7: and I would say more akin to what we are
Speaker 7: used to seeing in Portland and in Seattle, you know,
Speaker 7: in the kind of behavior of these Upper Northwest progressive echelons.
Speaker 7: That's something that we're now seeing in Minnesota to a
Speaker 7: greater degree. And it doesn't I don't think it's going
Speaker 7: to stop. I only think it's going to escape.
Speaker 2: Well, I agree, But here's here's the question that happened.
Speaker 1: The little bit of Rodney King tape that we had
Speaker 1: thirty years ago, thirty five years ago, the little bit
Speaker 1: now it was bad, it was black and white, it
Speaker 1: was dark at night, and the beating it.
Speaker 2: We compare that with thirty years later. We have every
Speaker 2: five different angles on everything that happens.
Speaker 7: Everybody's different iPhone angle to analyze at links you know,
Speaker 7: on CNN, et cetera. And that's going to lead inevitably
Speaker 7: to people having different opinions and different perspectives on things.
Speaker 7: But one thing that I do think you look, I
Speaker 7: said that this was a tragedy in part because you know,
Speaker 7: and I don't I don't say that blaming you know,
Speaker 7: the ice officer involved, but just because I think that
Speaker 7: this is something that is inevitably going to happen more frequently,
Speaker 7: and that leftist people have been infected with this mind
Speaker 7: virus that says that they need to be, you know,
Speaker 7: reactionary opponents of law enforcement in the public square. And
Speaker 7: I follow enough leftists to see this thing playing out
Speaker 7: on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: Well should they that's the question. Should Ice retreat because
Speaker 1: what has happened in Minneapolis is now marked as a
Speaker 1: place for the lunatics to assemble and try to seattle
Speaker 1: Portland in a new place, and because local government won't
Speaker 1: help you, you should retreat for a while because it
Speaker 1: could escalate, it could be become la again.
Speaker 7: I don't think you can afford to retreat. I think
Speaker 7: this is too significant of an issue, and I think
Speaker 7: that it's incumbent upon you, in fact, as law enforcement,
Speaker 7: as enforcers of our nation's immigration laws, to continue to
Speaker 7: do so, even in the face of people who are
Speaker 7: absolutely nuts, and will that lead to pain and to
Speaker 7: potential more tragedy in the future. It will, but only
Speaker 7: if these reactionarias continue to make the choices that they
Speaker 7: are making. But you can't let you cannot allow this
Speaker 7: to be determined by the people who are willing to
Speaker 7: run over ICE agents in order to prevent them from
Speaker 7: doing their jobs.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear you saying this, but there is
Speaker 1: a Heckler's vetail that doesn't exist. But this is an
Speaker 1: open carry state, it's a concealed carry state. The ICE
Speaker 1: agents are in real danger from the lunatics and what
Speaker 1: the is.
Speaker 7: But I just think I think you that you can't
Speaker 7: avoid this. This has been a question that has been
Speaker 7: for time and again. The reason that the left has
Speaker 7: won on questions like this is because they are willing
Speaker 7: to be more extreme and to do more violence to
Speaker 7: people who are just wearing the badge with a flag
Speaker 7: on their shoulder, just trying to do their jobs. And
Speaker 7: we can't afford to have that as a nation anymore.
Speaker 7: And I as a generation, refuse to accept this type
Speaker 7: of Boomer methodology that says that everything is can't state
Speaker 7: all over again. This is ridiculous. I mean, we have
Speaker 7: a we deserve to have a community where laws are enforced,
Speaker 7: and that is true across the United States of America.
Speaker 7: And I do not think we should be ashamed to
Speaker 7: argue for that.
Speaker 5: I've been hit. I've been hit by the Boom radiology that.
Speaker 2: They got it down.
Speaker 7: No, they just want to turn everything into.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: It's true, Gosh, you got me, you wing me with
Speaker 2: the Boomer stuff. It is true that we are all
Speaker 2: captives of.
Speaker 1: The experience that we grow up with and we memorize
Speaker 1: I memorize Rodney King in the decade thereafter. But if
Speaker 1: we don't enforce the law, they're just gonna It's like
Speaker 1: when there was a revival at the Christian College in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Every revival attracted person across the country went there, so
Speaker 1: they had to shut it down, which was okay and
Speaker 1: easy to do because they were evangelical Christian. Here you've
Speaker 1: got every lunatic in the country going to the twin seenties.
Speaker 7: It is a flare up in the air for everybody
Speaker 7: to come. And from my perspective, it's like you can't
Speaker 7: run away from that, you can't dodge that. Because then
Speaker 7: the lesson that they take is every time we throw
Speaker 7: up a flare, we can turn this thing around. We
Speaker 7: can scare the people we are trying to enforce the law,
Speaker 7: we can scare the politicians involved. And look, we have
Speaker 7: a president who's in his second term, he's not running again.
Speaker 7: He is as invested in this as he is in
Speaker 7: any other area of domestic policy. And I think this
Speaker 7: is the moment to lean in and say the law
Speaker 7: actually matters, It really does, and maybe that's inconvenient for
Speaker 7: your mindset now, and we don't care.
Speaker 5: If what stock on ice is here, we're going to
Speaker 5: break it up.
Speaker 7: Look, I really I really do think, I really do
Speaker 7: think that this is a situation where, you know, as
Speaker 7: much as we can harden the target when it comes
Speaker 7: to ice, we should be doing so. And that's something
Speaker 7: that you know, I hope that this administration is doing
Speaker 7: because they should understand that this is uh, this is
Speaker 7: the beginning of this, not the end, and it's not
Speaker 7: going to go away in the next couple of years.
Speaker 2: Is DHS communicating well, we have forty sevens.
Speaker 7: I you know what, here's a here's a good answer
Speaker 7: to that question. I'm efforting Tricia McLaughlin to come back
Speaker 7: on the next Big Ben show. We can talk about
Speaker 7: whether they are whether they are delivering that message effective.
Speaker 2: She's everywhere. I don't know that the point she is
Speaker 2: making are tight enough.
Speaker 7: I think I think there there needs to be uh,
Speaker 7: there needs to be some some support. It's a supporting
Speaker 7: mechanism because a lot of this she's out there on
Speaker 7: an island.
Speaker 5: That's well she is.
Speaker 2: She is out alone survivor. Yeah, but that means you
Speaker 2: have to do every show every day and it exact
Speaker 2: wears on you. Ben Dominis, thank you. Follow him at
Speaker 2: exit b Dominic and go get the Big Ben podcast.
Speaker 2: Come right back to the You Do It Show, Morning
Speaker 2: Glory and even Grace America.
Speaker 1: What a week of news and what a great place
Speaker 1: to have John ellis founder and editor in chief of
Speaker 1: News Items to be at the top of the week
Speaker 1: in Review because John covers everything that I haven't paid
Speaker 1: attention to. I've been focused on Iran with like a
Speaker 1: squirrel over there of Minnesota and a squirrel over there
Speaker 1: of Greenland And back to Iran John. When I got
Speaker 1: your show notes for today from news Items, I felt
Speaker 1: like I had to read the opening one. In my
Speaker 1: NFL feature films from the sixties, Voice on a BLUs
Speaker 1: treet November Day, assess the.
Speaker 2: Turboprop flew over Pennsylvania at five thousand meters in crosswinds
Speaker 2: of up to seventy nine. It was wonderfully written. Tell
Speaker 2: people about this the little cessa and could, and why.
Speaker 5: It was doing what it did.
Speaker 8: There's a company called Overview Energy, and their mission is
Speaker 8: to beam electricity from moving aircraft down to receivers on
Speaker 8: the Earth. And there's an engineering journal that published this
Speaker 8: story that you just read the lead of that told
Speaker 8: the tale of basically the oval right flight of Overview Energy.
Speaker 8: It was flying over Pennsylvania. It successfully beamed electricity down
Speaker 8: to receivers from the ground from a moving aircraft. And
Speaker 8: while other companies, and you know, major companies are doing this,
Speaker 8: this is sort of a little engine that could kind
Speaker 8: of story, and it is the beginning of what I
Speaker 8: think will be an enormous industry, which is satellites, drones,
Speaker 8: moving aircraft of all kinds. It's beaming electricity down from
Speaker 8: space into receivers on Earth with obviously limitless solar power
Speaker 8: driving the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Well, that wasn't obvious to me until I read the story,
Speaker 1: But now that it's explained to me, if you can
Speaker 1: get a collector up above the clouds and just take
Speaker 1: the solar energy direct and beam it down to Earth,
Speaker 1: that is limitless energy.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 8: And you know, my guess would be that Elon Musk
Speaker 8: would be the leader in this because he already has, however,
Speaker 8: many tens of thousands of satellites in the orbit, and
Speaker 8: he keeps sending up tens of thousands more. So Musk
Speaker 8: is probably the leader. But I'm sure there are other
Speaker 8: companies Google and others that are that are looking at this,
Speaker 8: and obviously, with data centers eating up so much power,
Speaker 8: it's really important that we find new sources of electricity.
Speaker 8: And beaming sun powers or power essentially up from space
Speaker 8: down to Earth would take an enormous pressure off prices
Speaker 8: of electricity for all of us, and it's something to watch.
Speaker 5: I have an overview energy.
Speaker 1: My hat is off to you, and I'll keep my
Speaker 1: eyes on the sky for assessmas so I don't get sunburned.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the second one which I understood pretty
Speaker 1: easily because I know about steel dumping from Reagan erad
Speaker 1: days what the Chinese did. But why don't you explain
Speaker 1: because I hadn't made the parallel comparison to AI, which
Speaker 1: of course makes sense to me.
Speaker 8: Again, Well, the steel thing, as you know, the China
Speaker 8: generated massive overcapacity and steel output and then they dumped
Speaker 8: it onto the market, and the point of that was
Speaker 8: to put American steel industry and other steel industries out
Speaker 8: of business, essentially make it prohibitive for them for US
Speaker 8: steel and others to be successful. And of course, and
Speaker 8: that they're followed steel plant after steel plant folding in
Speaker 8: the US. The concerning is that they were going to
Speaker 8: do the same thing with AI. That they have AI
Speaker 8: platforms that aren't quite as sophisticated as the ones that
Speaker 8: the US has developed, but they're close enough for government work,
Speaker 8: if you will, and all sorts of companies will use
Speaker 8: them because they'll be cheaper, and China will price them
Speaker 8: much much cheaper than what the US companies will will charge,
Speaker 8: and so by undercutting them on price, they will make
Speaker 8: all of this investment that the US tech companies have
Speaker 8: made into server farms and data servers. They will, they
Speaker 8: will cut their knees off. Essentially, Well, yeah, I live.
Speaker 5: I lived with John.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Warren, Ohio in the heart of
Speaker 1: the Steel Valley, and first United Steel went down, and
Speaker 1: then Republic and then copper Weld, and they kept going
Speaker 1: until it was a steel desert. They were all closed.
Speaker 1: All the sites are still there. A couple of special
Speaker 1: these deals are back. But when it hits, it hits
Speaker 1: you very very quickly, and all of a sudden, an
Speaker 1: industry that was driving the whole economy and part of
Speaker 1: the state and Pennsylvania as well, is gone.
Speaker 2: So do the AI barons realize that there's.
Speaker 1: A wolf at the door. I think you froze John
Speaker 1: as the wolf was at the door. It so I
Speaker 1: can go back and do my NFL voice again while
Speaker 1: we wait for John to come back, because that really
Speaker 1: did read like an NFL. You got to remember forty
Speaker 1: for sixty with Joe Minnesota Vikings. Oh it Shoe's last name,
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings quarterback. When he comes back on We're going
Speaker 1: to talk about this because I'm going to read it
Speaker 1: to you what he had to say. Chinese AI startup
Speaker 1: Deep Seek is expected to launch its next generation AI
Speaker 1: model that features too strong that features strong coding capabilities
Speaker 1: in coming weeks. According to two people with direct knowledge
Speaker 1: of the plan, the new model, the V four, is
Speaker 1: a successor to the V three model deep Seek released
Speaker 1: in December twenty twenty four. Initial tests done by deep
Speaker 1: Seek employees based on the company internal benchmarks, showed that
Speaker 1: it outperformed existing models such as Anthropics claude An Open
Speaker 1: AI's GPT series encoding. Two people said, so if they
Speaker 1: do to AI what China did, China does to AI.
Speaker 1: What China did is steal the AI barons. Oh you're back, John.
Speaker 1: So do the AI barons know that the Chinese wolf is.
Speaker 5: At the door?
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, No, Microsoft, you know, made a big announcement
Speaker 8: about it this past week.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 8: And you know, the fight of the competition, the space race,
Speaker 8: if you will, between Chinese and US tech companies to
Speaker 8: you know, develop the best AI. UH makes everyone enormously
Speaker 8: nervous because so much money is being expended and if
Speaker 8: that investment is stranded, Uh, the disaster follows.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, and you sent me later in the day.
Speaker 1: One of the famed UH forecasts put out a pretty
Speaker 1: good forecast based on AI investment. But that's counterintuitive given
Speaker 1: what you just told me, and the AI bubble.
Speaker 5: Is of concern. Do you think the economists for being
Speaker 5: factored this into his forecast at four percent plus GDP growth,
Speaker 5: even with the drags of terrorists and everything else.
Speaker 8: I think I think he's assuming that it will work out.
Speaker 8: So if you do assume that it will work out,
Speaker 8: and that the US tech companies are clever and adaptive
Speaker 8: and you know it can figure out a way to
Speaker 8: avoid the full in well did it again, then then
Speaker 8: the process is, you know positive. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: Let's merge the last two together, because I think they
Speaker 1: explain a lot. One is all time record high of
Speaker 1: US adults register at independent forty five percent, and the
Speaker 1: NEA has come out with a crazy identitarian driven grammar book,
Speaker 1: and I think that's one of the reasons that Democrats
Speaker 1: can't grow, is that they've gone over the left edge.
Speaker 1: Not sure about the Republicans. What do you think about
Speaker 1: those two together? John ellis.
Speaker 5: Well my podcast.
Speaker 8: My occasional podcast partner Joe Klein wrote a great column
Speaker 8: this week, and when he talked about the identity politics
Speaker 8: of Democrats, of the Democrats and how it will always
Speaker 8: prevent them from being successful. And it goes back to
Speaker 8: what I think is the most important advertisement of the
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four campaign, which is the Trump campaign ad
Speaker 8: that said, Kamala Harris, she's for them, Donald Trump, He's
Speaker 8: for you. That sort of perfectly captured all of the
Speaker 8: problems that the Democrats have, and it's one reason why
Speaker 8: the party I d amongst the electorate for Democrats has
Speaker 8: declined so dramatically.
Speaker 1: Did you and Joe get you how the Minnesota story
Speaker 1: is going to impact, if at all, because I have
Speaker 1: concerned as hurting Republicans. Those concerns were in the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal today. On the other hand, a lot of
Speaker 1: Maga Republicans say, no, that's actually Minnesota buffoonery over indexing
Speaker 1: for blue cities and blue states, and it's going to
Speaker 1: help us.
Speaker 8: What do you think, I think it hurts the Trump
Speaker 8: you know, Trump White House. I think that the video
Speaker 8: is you know, for a lot of people, is really
Speaker 8: really troubling, and it's particularly troubling I think amongst the
Speaker 8: independent voters. And in order to be successful in the
Speaker 8: midterm elections, Republicans are going to have to do very
Speaker 8: very well among independent voters. So I think net net
Speaker 8: it's a negative or team goop.
Speaker 5: So the Independent.
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say they were very concerned about
Speaker 1: an open border and they're also very concerned about over
Speaker 1: zealous ICE agents.
Speaker 5: Is that a fair summary?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think that the.
Speaker 8: Concern about the border was not universal, that the large
Speaker 8: majorities were concerned about the Biden administration's essentially open border policy,
Speaker 8: and part of that was the ventinal crisis that had
Speaker 8: done so much damage. But this ICE action in Minneapolis
Speaker 8: has been I think detrimental to the Republican comes always.
Speaker 5: Good to talk with John Ellis.
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Speaker 10: President Trump has been clear he will not, nor should
Speaker 10: the international community, tolerate innocence being slaughtered in the streets
Speaker 10: since nineteen seventy nine. For decades, the regime has posed
Speaker 10: a threat to peace and security in the name of
Speaker 10: religious ideology. The regime calls for death to America and
Speaker 10: the annihilation of it.
Speaker 5: Welcome back in America.
Speaker 1: That was Ambassador Michael Waltz, the Ambassador of the United
Speaker 1: States the United Nations. I am joined now by Eli Lake.
Speaker 1: Eli is the host of the Breaking History podcast. He
Speaker 1: is a contributor to the Free Press. This week he
Speaker 1: was on a commentary podcast that was very informative, and
Speaker 1: he is one of a handful of people that I
Speaker 1: actually call expert on the Islamic Republic of Iran. So
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to ask you a question, Eli,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you the floor to tell the
Speaker 1: audience as the weekend, a watchful weekend begins, what ought
Speaker 1: they to be looking for and thinking about?
Speaker 11: Well, I keep want to cut back to something, which
Speaker 11: is that, first of all, I don't know that the
Speaker 11: regime has days after that there will be a dramatic
Speaker 11: moment over the weekend or next week, but I do
Speaker 11: think that we're in the beginning of the end.
Speaker 4: It's not entirely.
Speaker 11: Applicable as an analogy, but it's important to remember the
Speaker 11: Islamic Revolution that resulted in the current Islamic Republic of
Speaker 11: Iran really begins on January Tewod nineteen seventy eight, and
Speaker 11: it is a full year until the Shah leaves and
Speaker 11: then Homini comes and returns to Iran sadly, So I
Speaker 11: would not think about this in terms of the next
Speaker 11: few days and in our incredibly short attention span right
Speaker 11: now we have a sort of geopolitical attention deficit disorder.
Speaker 11: I think that there's no coming back from it. You're right,
Speaker 11: you're right, yeah, right, And I just don't think. And
Speaker 11: I would say that all the things that came out
Speaker 11: in the last week, and there's so much news it's
Speaker 11: worth looking at. It's in Farsi, but there's their translation.
Speaker 11: It's making the rounds. You can see it everywhere. But
Speaker 11: it's a woman calls into an overseas kind of chat
Speaker 11: show that is a run by members of the run
Speaker 11: in Daspra. She I think credibly claims that she is
Speaker 11: the daughter of a senior Revolutionary Guard core commander.
Speaker 4: You can tell that she is on the brink.
Speaker 11: She's asking for information to get to the Hague or
Speaker 11: to have somebody arrest.
Speaker 4: Or kill her father.
Speaker 5: That is how serious it is.
Speaker 11: And then she goes on to describe what they are
Speaker 11: doing to people who have been caught protesting. She describes
Speaker 11: what was done to her and her friends when they protested.
Speaker 11: The last big time you saw these national uprising with
Speaker 11: the Women Life Freedom Movement, and it's really disturbing because
Speaker 11: this is obviously a family.
Speaker 1: Now, you know, I got to ask you about that
Speaker 1: because I have to remember that in every one of them,
Speaker 1: I did see that. I did listen to it the
Speaker 1: entire subtext. It was in Farsi, and I had to
Speaker 1: read the subtitle, but I did not repost it because
Speaker 1: with AI and with expatriot diaspora polemics, I didn't know
Speaker 1: if I could trust it because it's so disturbing. If
Speaker 1: it's true, it's the daughter of a IRGC commander who
Speaker 1: had her beaten and I had to watch people get shot.
Speaker 5: If it's true, it's horrific. How did you judge it credible?
Speaker 11: I judge it credible because I've heard similar kinds of
Speaker 11: things really for the last twenty years, which is that
Speaker 11: these internal families divides that oftentimes the children of particularly
Speaker 11: elites in the IRGC the Revolutionary Guard Corps have been
Speaker 11: caught up.
Speaker 4: And you've seen versions of this.
Speaker 11: I mean, former President's daughters were we're protesting in two
Speaker 11: thousand and nine, and so it rang true to me
Speaker 11: in that respect, I felt like you could even though
Speaker 11: I don't speak fluent, I don't speak Farsi, but her
Speaker 11: emotional trauma sounded real. It sounded like somebody who had was,
Speaker 11: you know, kind of experiencing a kind of break and
Speaker 11: her conscience could no longer allow her. Or really, I mean,
Speaker 11: it's again, it's tragic. You're rivet to not trust things.
Speaker 11: It's riveting. But I bring it up not because right,
Speaker 11: you're right that it's impossible to verify these things. I
Speaker 11: bring it up though, because I think that's a real
Speaker 11: dynamic that's going on. So when we're trying to understand
Speaker 11: how long the regime will last, you have to remember
Speaker 11: every single one of these thugs that sit atop this
Speaker 11: kind of hierarchy of oppression has a family, and they
Speaker 11: have neighbors, and they have friends who themselves are probably
Speaker 11: they know they hate them. So I just I just
Speaker 11: bring that up because I think it's something that's a
Speaker 11: very real dynamic.
Speaker 1: Well, it rings a bill for me that during the
Speaker 1: Iraq in the Afghan Wars, whenever we would kill someone,
Speaker 1: the Left would say, if you kill someone, you create
Speaker 1: four or five new insurgents.
Speaker 5: And I always thought not if it was a bad guy.
Speaker 1: I do believe if you execute a civilian marching in
Speaker 1: the streets with a machine gun or a gun to that,
Speaker 1: I do believe that their family is forever anti regime
Speaker 1: and that is a cumulative.
Speaker 5: Trauma on Iran.
Speaker 1: Now, I've been calling this week the end of the beginning,
Speaker 1: which I thought started in June with Operation mid Night Hammer.
Speaker 1: Whatever Trump does now will be the exclamation point. And
Speaker 1: I give him weeks, if not two months, to actually
Speaker 1: follow through on the threat, because those tens of thousands
Speaker 1: of people who are arrested, they're still an Irvin prison
Speaker 1: and everywhere else in Tehran that they imprisoned dissidentce yep.
Speaker 1: So are you ruling out Trump doing anything this weekend
Speaker 1: or next weekend or next month.
Speaker 11: Well, I mean, if you're going to read the tea
Speaker 11: leaves that he posted a couple hours ago that he
Speaker 11: thanked the regime for canceling, what do you say? It's
Speaker 11: something eight very high number of eight hundred executions have
Speaker 11: I don't know if that number is correct. It's certainly
Speaker 11: true that they postponed some executions. At the same time,
Speaker 11: I would like to see some non kinetic options deployed.
Speaker 11: We know that the regime is sending their mouthpieces on
Speaker 11: international media. Let's take down their internet. Let's make sure
Speaker 11: that we flood Iran with the starlink based stations. Let's
Speaker 11: start publicizing the accounts of regime elites and then freezing
Speaker 11: those accounts.
Speaker 5: Well, what about the medium and make them a conetic.
Speaker 1: They've murdered six thousand people if I used the mean right,
Speaker 1: six thousand people? Ought we not to say every time
Speaker 1: you do this, we're going to do at least this,
Speaker 1: and yes the cyber yes, the not gonna and then
Speaker 1: blow up carg Island or take out some missile.
Speaker 2: I know that there's a second or consequence to Israel,
Speaker 2: which does give me pause. But ought they not to
Speaker 2: receive some kind of a message from the world that
Speaker 2: they can't act?
Speaker 5: Yeah, savages.
Speaker 11: Every province has an i ergy and BESIEG headquarters building
Speaker 11: top of the list. You could we could wipe them
Speaker 11: out in a couple hours. What do you think that
Speaker 11: that would send a huge message?
Speaker 1: And every time they do something yet we see what
Speaker 1: do you do you think Israel is at risk if
Speaker 1: we do that.
Speaker 11: I think that Israel has I think there's a potential again,
Speaker 11: we could see barrages of ballistic missiles and Israel doesn't
Speaker 11: have them the air defense to take care of that,
Speaker 11: and then yes, there could be some risk there. My
Speaker 11: sense is that the Israelis would take the uncertainty and
Speaker 11: the damage of a kind of last flail of the
Speaker 11: Iranian regime if it helped hasten its collapse.
Speaker 4: And I hope, I hope we're.
Speaker 11: Seeing that, and I do think that we're I think
Speaker 11: it's a good way to put at the beginning of
Speaker 11: the end.
Speaker 1: I hope that you will continue to show up on
Speaker 1: commentary and write for the Free Press, Eli and maybe
Speaker 1: do a new Breaking history on regime collapse.
Speaker 2: There's regime change, there's regime evolution, which is.
Speaker 1: Venezuela, and then there's regime collapse, which is what we
Speaker 1: want to see in Iran. Eli Lake can be followed
Speaker 1: on ex at Eli Lake and at the Breaking History
Speaker 1: podcast and at the Free Press.
Speaker 5: Stay tuned. Welcome back, America. I'm Hugh hewittt.
Speaker 1: It is the end of the college football season. On
Speaker 1: Monday night, Doug lay Maries is here for the Friday
Speaker 1: Football Forecast. Most Fridays during the college football season. Doug,
Speaker 1: Who's the co host of the Bill and Doug Show.
Speaker 1: Bill anddougosu dot substack dot com joins me and Doug.
Speaker 1: I have got my Indiana University tie here, which I'll
Speaker 1: be wearing on Special Report tonight because I got a
Speaker 1: root for the Big Ten team.
Speaker 5: What do you think what's going to be Monday Night?
Speaker 12: So Bill and I did our picks today and we
Speaker 12: are divergent here. I really think Indiana is going to
Speaker 12: finish the thing off you. I really think that Indiana
Speaker 12: is a more complete team and the idea of three
Speaker 12: straight Big Ten champs Michigan, Ohio State, Indiana, it's a
Speaker 12: new era in college football. Indiana is favored by eight
Speaker 12: and a half in this game against Miami.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 12: Miami's kind of new too. They haven't won a national
Speaker 12: title since two thousand and one, and we all remember
Speaker 12: that you once upon a time, they were a dominant
Speaker 12: force in college football. It's great to have him back,
Speaker 12: but Indiana's never been in a spot like this, and
Speaker 12: I like that who's your chances Monday Night?
Speaker 1: I read a long take from ESPN that they're the
Speaker 1: older of the two clubs and that Kurt Signetti has
Speaker 1: certain metrics that he looks for like the guardrails the
Speaker 1: Browns use, which haven't really work.
Speaker 5: Where's the coaching edge in this matchup, Doug Marie.
Speaker 12: Yeah, kurtzigneity is a coaching monster.
Speaker 7: Like it.
Speaker 12: I don't know that we've seen you. Just look for
Speaker 12: comparisons on this what he's done. I think you have
Speaker 12: to give him the edge. But one of the interesting
Speaker 12: things here is Corey Heatherman, who's the defensive coordinator at Miami,
Speaker 12: and certainly Mario CHRISTENP. Ball is the head coach of
Speaker 12: Miami like a loyal hurricane, and to bring them back
Speaker 12: after two decades does a great job by Mario Christi Ball.
Speaker 12: But Corey Heatherman the defensive coordinator for Miami. They hired
Speaker 12: him from Minnesota, but he once upon a time was
Speaker 12: the defensive coordinator for Kurt Signetti at James Madison.
Speaker 4: So this is what it's like.
Speaker 12: It's like a spy novel. You if you are trying
Speaker 12: to take down Kurt Signetti, what would you do? You'd
Speaker 12: want somebody who'd been on the inside. And Miami's defensive
Speaker 12: coordinator worked for two years for Kurt Signetti, so he
Speaker 12: knows what Kurt Signetti likes to do. He and the
Speaker 12: Indiana defensive coordinator right now, Brian Haynes, are very good friends.
Speaker 12: They're both up for the award for the Best Assistant
Speaker 12: Coaching College Football. So Corey Heatherman for Miami has an
Speaker 12: idea of how these Signetti Indiana guys think, and it's like.
Speaker 4: Could that matter?
Speaker 12: I don't know if anybody can beat Kurt Signetti, but
Speaker 12: you want to think like him if you're going to try.
Speaker 7: To beat him.
Speaker 5: Now, Doak?
Speaker 2: I got two questions I got to get in a
Speaker 2: short period of time.
Speaker 5: One in the off season.
Speaker 1: I hope the Bill and Doug Show is going to
Speaker 1: continue on as often a basis as it has been
Speaker 1: because I've become kind of addicted.
Speaker 5: Is that going to happen?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 12: But football, come on, Hugh, ball is three sixty five, man,
Speaker 12: This football never sleeps. We're not going anywhere.
Speaker 4: We got plenty to talk about.
Speaker 1: Well, that's because the game has changed so much. Which
Speaker 1: brings me to mister Mendoza. I also read a profile
Speaker 1: of him. He's a little bit otherworldly. He's almost too perfect.
Speaker 1: You want your daughter to marry him? Kind of perfect?
Speaker 5: Is he for real?
Speaker 10: It is?
Speaker 4: I think he is for real?
Speaker 12: And sometimes you got to be honest. Sometimes when a
Speaker 12: guy's so nice, it's like, is that what you want
Speaker 12: from a football player? Football player should have an edge.
Speaker 12: Football players got to be a little crazy. But like
Speaker 12: Fernanda Mendoza is this guy, but he also balls out
Speaker 12: and so sometimes those are my favorite guys that you
Speaker 12: could have a like a philosophical conversation off the field
Speaker 12: and then when he gets on the field. He took
Speaker 12: a hit in the in the first play of the
Speaker 12: Big Ten title game against Ohio State. I thought he
Speaker 12: was out. Yes, he was knocked on his face. I
Speaker 12: thought I thought they would take him out on a stretcher,
Speaker 12: and he got up, missed one play and came back in.
Speaker 12: So I do think he's for real. He's a different
Speaker 12: kind of guy, but his teammates rally around him, and
Speaker 12: Hugh we've seen different personalities from quarterbacks. If your teammates
Speaker 12: love you, however you do it. If your teammates love
Speaker 12: you and you put your yourself on the line for
Speaker 12: your team, you're in a pretty good spot.
Speaker 4: As a QB.
Speaker 1: All right now, Doug is picking Indiana for Monday Night,
Speaker 1: and I want to ask you the second question. Dante
Speaker 1: Mori is going back to the Ducks, and that means
Speaker 1: the Jets are screwed and they get the second pick.
Speaker 1: And Dane Brugler, Warren Ohio born and Raige and still
Speaker 1: working out of Warren, Ohio, has projected Arville Reese number
Speaker 1: two to the Jets.
Speaker 5: What do you think about that?
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, so, I mean there might be four or
Speaker 12: four or five o'high state guys in the top twenty
Speaker 12: of this draft. You so like Rvel Reeves. It's sort
Speaker 12: of this modern era. He's a Micah Parsons potentially type
Speaker 12: of player, which we know how impactful he was for Dallas,
Speaker 12: got traded to Green Bay this year. You can be
Speaker 12: a linebacker, but then you can also rush the passer
Speaker 12: and get up on the edge. This versatility can really matter.
Speaker 12: It's hard, Hugh, because again you look at it from
Speaker 12: a Browns perspective. Great, you have all Miles Garrett. What
Speaker 12: better player could you have the Miles Garrett? But you
Speaker 12: don't have quarterbacks. You're not going to win. So like,
Speaker 12: if you don't have a quarterback, you're still not going
Speaker 12: to get over the top. But you want to build
Speaker 12: up and fortify your team around it. Rvel Reeves from
Speaker 12: the same kind of lineage high school is Troy Smith,
Speaker 12: the Heisman Trophy winner, Ted gen Junior. These great guys
Speaker 12: who have come through Glenville High School in Cleveland. Tremendous player,
Speaker 12: great young man, and I'd take him. But just if
Speaker 12: you're the Jets, you still got to find a quarterback somewhere.
Speaker 2: So did Bill Landis pick Miami because of their remarkable
Speaker 2: defensive line crushing mister Mendoza.
Speaker 5: Is that why he went that way in part, but.
Speaker 12: Also their offensive line and the way that they have
Speaker 12: a big thing. They're big and physical on both sides
Speaker 12: of the line for Miami, and the way that Miami
Speaker 12: ran the ball against Ohio State four yards, five yards,
Speaker 12: six yards, like not necessarily explosive, but reliable. They have
Speaker 12: the really big tackles, all acc guard like they're they're
Speaker 12: old and big, and so Indiana's defensive front is really good.
Speaker 12: They do a lot of their best work kind of
Speaker 12: with different looks and like keeping you off balance. I
Speaker 12: think Bill thinks that maybe Miami can just hold the
Speaker 12: ball consistently, run it, keep Fernanda Mendoza off the field,
Speaker 12: and that's Miami's prescription for victory. I picked Indiana fifty
Speaker 12: six fourteen, So I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 12: that I got a blowout blowout?
Speaker 5: What is the over under on the Las Vegas line?
Speaker 5: Is it that's way about.
Speaker 12: That forty five or something. I will say Indiana has
Speaker 12: scored exactly fifty six four times already this year and
Speaker 12: they have another one of fifty five, So like we're
Speaker 12: we're right in that zone eight touchdown. That doesn't seem
Speaker 12: so hard, right, like you?
Speaker 1: Is it good or bad that the two finalists are
Speaker 1: the two teams that beat the Buck guys?
Speaker 5: Do we console ourselves? We Buckeye few, we happy few
Speaker 5: over the winter with that? Or is it a point
Speaker 5: of pain.
Speaker 12: I've been trying I would I've tried that with Ohio
Speaker 12: State fans like this is. I think Ohio State probably
Speaker 12: will finish number three in the final polls, even though
Speaker 12: they lost in the quarterfinals, because they were number two
Speaker 12: and the two teams they lost to are planned for
Speaker 12: the title. But I think for a lot of Ohio
Speaker 12: State fans, especially because the Indiana and Miami losses were
Speaker 12: kind of right there for the Buck guys. Knowing that
Speaker 12: just makes you think, oh, we were right there on
Speaker 12: the air, and it did make it happen, So Ohio
Speaker 12: State fans are not soothed by that few unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Doug lagh Marie, Bill and Doug Osu dot
Speaker 2: substack dot com.
Speaker 5: We'll check in during the off season.
Speaker 2: College football is only six months away. Bill and Doug
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Speaker 5: I'm doing Welcome back to America.
Speaker 2: I'm you Hewett, Go Hoosiers on Monday Night.
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