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Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Monday,

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Speaker 3: March thirtieth, twenty twenty six. Welcome Blake. Howdy howdy. We've

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Speaker 3: got a jam pack show for you, lots of news

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Speaker 2: Good to see you, gentlemen. I'm better now that I'm

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Speaker 3: With you guys, well exactly, and that Japan has taken

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Speaker 2: It's great, much appreciated.

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Speaker 3: You know C. S. Lewis. If you haven't read him,

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Speaker 3: But I'm actually going through the great divorce right now

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Speaker 5: the traditional one, that's been the case for a very

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Speaker 5: long time. And it's in the heart of the Old City.

436
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Speaker 5: And since the beginning of the war with Iran, they

437
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Speaker 5: have closed the Church of the Holy Sepulcher for religious services.

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Speaker 3: Now what's not brought up by a lot of people.

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Speaker 5: They have also closed alak Samosk, the Dome of the Rock,

440
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Speaker 5: and they have closed the Western Wall for like a

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Speaker 5: large number of pilgrims, this is Palm's but this was

442
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Speaker 5: Palm Sunday. And the dispute specifically was that the Latin

443
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Speaker 5: Patriarch of Jerusalem, Pierre Batista Pizza Bala, say that ten times.

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Speaker 3: Best far the coolest name in Christendom.

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Speaker 5: He complained because he was not allowed even to basically

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Speaker 5: privately him and a couple others offer a Mass for

447
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Speaker 5: Palm Sunday. And he was very concerned about that, and

448
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Speaker 5: it caused a lot of backla, a pr nightmare four

449
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Speaker 5: the Israeli government, which eventually quickly Benjamin and Yahu did

450
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Speaker 5: step in and say, I am going to take steps

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Speaker 5: to make sure religious services can be held during Holy Week.

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Speaker 5: But Michael, you were commenting on this a lot online

453
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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael, what would you take?

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Speaker 2: So this was an egregious mistake by the Israeli government

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Speaker 2: in the thing itself, because the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem

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Speaker 2: should not, under any circumstances whatsoever, be prevented from going

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Speaker 2: to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, much less on

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Speaker 2: Palm Sunday, during which time we commemorate Christ's entry into

460
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Speaker 2: Jerusalem as a king, you know, fedied with palms and

461
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Speaker 2: it starts off Holy Week. So in the thing itself,

462
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Speaker 2: it was wrong. Israel had no right to do it,

463
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Speaker 2: But just from a pr perspective, it was a huge mistake,

464
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Speaker 2: And there is a silver lining here. I've been telling

465
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Speaker 2: people for weeks now things get a little wacky during Lent.

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Speaker 2: This is just my experience. I think if you have

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Speaker 2: eyes of faith, you might have seen it yourself. People

468
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Speaker 2: who are atheists are going to look at us like

469
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Speaker 2: we're crazy for saying that. But something about Lent, especially

470
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Speaker 2: someone about Holy Week, things get a little tough. I

471
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Speaker 2: don't know, the devil goes into.

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Speaker 3: Full or something. Yeah, exactly, yes.

473
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Speaker 2: Yes it is.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: And so there's a silver lining though, to this really

476
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Speaker 2: unfortunate incident yesterday, which is there was a global outcry

477
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Speaker 2: and everybody seemed to agree, Protestants, Catholics, eventually the Israeli government.

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Speaker 2: You had, Mike, how could Bee come out? The US

479
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Speaker 2: ambassador to Israel, who is as pro Israel as any

480
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Speaker 2: person ever has been since Theodore Hertzel, and he came

481
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Speaker 2: out and he said, hey, this was a mistake, guys.

482
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Speaker 2: They really shouldn't have done this. A senator crew, a

483
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Speaker 2: good friend of mine, very very Southern Baptist, very very

484
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Speaker 2: pro Israel. He says he's the most pro Israel US senator.

485
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Speaker 2: He came out, he said, Huckeby's totally right. Israel really

486
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Speaker 2: bungled this one. Can't do it. So you got the

487
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Speaker 2: Catholic Church, the Southern Baptists, the Evangelicals. You've got. Then

488
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: Isaac Krtzog and Benjamin Netanyahu came out and said, hey,

489
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Speaker 2: this was a huge mistake. This is on us. We're

490
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Speaker 2: not going to do it. We talked to Pizza Bala.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be allowed to say these private prayers

492
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Speaker 2: and you know, smaller events, celebrations, not two hundred people masses,

493
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Speaker 2: but we want to make sure that there's a presence

494
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Speaker 2: of the Holy Sepulcher during Holy Week. So it all

495
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Speaker 2: worked out. And the thing that I noticed on top

496
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Speaker 2: of all of it is this really showed you. The

497
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Speaker 2: bought accounts on social media, some of the operative accounts,

498
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Speaker 2: I mean, people were making all sorts of disgusting claims

499
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Speaker 2: about Cardinal Pizzabala. This is a great man. This is

500
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Speaker 2: a man who during the Gaza War, he offered himself

501
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Speaker 2: to Hamas in exchange for the Israeli Hosta. He's just

502
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Speaker 2: a wonderful man of the church. And so the people

503
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Speaker 2: who were going after him still and defending keeping him

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Speaker 2: out of the Holy Sepulcher, I said, hold on, when

505
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Speaker 2: you have Net and Yahoo, the Catholic Church and the

506
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Speaker 2: Protestants all on the same team, and you're on the

507
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Speaker 2: other team, I think you're the problem. Okay, I think

508
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Speaker 2: I think we know which side to be.

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Speaker 3: It was it was like cats and dogs living together.

510
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Speaker 3: This It was. There was this amazing breakthrough on social

511
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Speaker 3: media over the weekend. It was like it was like

512
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Speaker 3: a ray of light came down and we got to

513
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Speaker 3: got on the same page on Palm Sunday, which is ironic.

514
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Speaker 3: I actually didn't make this connection. I'm sure everybody on

515
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Speaker 3: x already did you know days ago, But this whole

516
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Speaker 3: like no King's rally. Meanwhile in Jerusalem Palm Sunday celebrating

517
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Speaker 3: literally the arrival, the triumphant arrival of Christ, our King

518
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Speaker 3: to the city of Jerusalem. It is iron you know.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna confess my ignorance or my lack of thought

520
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Speaker 2: on this. That's the first time that occurred to me.

521
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Speaker 2: I I'm hearing it for the first time. That's a

522
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Speaker 2: that's an amazing connection. Because the thing is, if you're

523
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Speaker 2: if you're a person of faith, you especially if you're Christian.

524
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Speaker 2: Christianity has a very very symbolic view of the world,

525
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: like everything makes sense, there's no there are no mere coincidences,

526
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Speaker 2: and if you think that God is real, then like

527
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Speaker 2: stuff is playing out in history beyond our own actions

528
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Speaker 2: and our own imaginations. And so the Libs who did

529
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Speaker 2: their stupid no Kings protests this weekend with Mazie Herono

530
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Speaker 2: accidentally admitting that Trump is not a king and never

531
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Speaker 2: will be anyway, that's a point for another time. When

532
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Speaker 2: they were doing that, I'm sure they didn't realize the

533
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Speaker 2: symbolism of it all, but the symbolism is there nonetheless.

534
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Speaker 2: I mean, frankly, there is even symbolism to the Latin

535
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Speaker 2: Patriarch of Jerusalem being denied entry into the Holy Sepulcher,

536
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Speaker 2: whether people intended it or not, but really probably they

537
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Speaker 2: did not. There there is a real symbol here, and

538
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Speaker 2: for the Libs to just say no kings, no kings, he.

539
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Speaker 3: Is not the King of the Jews on Palm Sunday

540
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Speaker 3: weekend where where we are literally they're holding their protests

541
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Speaker 3: and two thousand years ago there was a whole leather

542
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Speaker 3: gathering where they were declaring we do have a king.

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Speaker 3: It really is a dramatic juxtaposition. And I mean that's

544
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Speaker 3: what happens when you purge God from your political ideology.

545
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Speaker 3: You don't catch the obvious. But apparently you didn't either, Michael,

546
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Speaker 3: So we can talk.

547
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Speaker 2: And I miss the obvious. I need you. It's an

548
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Speaker 2: amazing observation.

549
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I just realized that we do have a king.

550
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Speaker 3: His name is Jesus, and he's still alive and reigning

551
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Speaker 3: over us today. And that's a beautiful thing. And I

552
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Speaker 3: and I do agree with you though that when you

553
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Speaker 3: see and I really that was the spirit actually of

554
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Speaker 3: inviting you on the show, was this ecumenical like I

555
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Speaker 3: just felt I've just been feeling in the ether, Michael,

556
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Speaker 3: like a little bit of like tension between the Prots

557
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Speaker 3: and the Catholics, and it's like.

558
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, going back in about five hundred years.

559
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we it felt like, you know, in recent years,

560
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Speaker 3: we kind of put most of that stuff behind. I mean,

561
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Speaker 3: I as a cradle Catholic, I mean, Blake disagrees. I

562
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Speaker 3: just think in general, we tend to see each other

563
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Speaker 3: very very much as allies, same team. Yeah, we disagree

564
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Speaker 3: around the edges or we disagree about that, but I

565
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Speaker 3: want that to be the case, especially somebody who grew

566
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Speaker 3: up as a cradle Catholic, like I said, went to

567
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Speaker 3: Catholic high school and things, you know, and I got

568
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Speaker 3: a guy who gets annoyed.

569
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Speaker 5: I got to know, I get annoyed when these Protestant

570
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Speaker 5: churches go squish and they like delete the stuff from

571
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Speaker 5: their statements of faith that the Pope is the Antichrist

572
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Speaker 5: or whatever.

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Speaker 9: Like.

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Speaker 2: Come on. I was just right before the right before

575
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Speaker 2: this interview, was talking to Doug Wilson, who I adore

576
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Speaker 2: because he is like the most hardcore Protestant I've ever

577
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Speaker 2: met in my life, and I have a lot of

578
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Speaker 2: them in my life. But but I do agree with

579
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Speaker 2: you on this point. Especially. Look, it comes full circle

580
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Speaker 2: with the devil goes into overtime during Lent and Holy Week.

581
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Speaker 2: The devil really loves to stoke division. And you've you've

582
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Speaker 2: seen this. You've seen this politically within the administration, trying

583
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: to stoke division in this really unified admin and then

584
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Speaker 2: you certainly see it among Americans of other types and

585
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Speaker 2: especially people of faith is you think, Hey, guys, the

586
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: left wants to harm us. The left wants to slaughter

587
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Speaker 2: babies and redefine marriage and extra pay Christianity from public life.

588
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Speaker 2: And while I would love to get into the Thirty

589
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Speaker 2: Years War, well, I would love to discuss all of

590
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Speaker 2: the nuances of Luther versus Zwingli versus Calvin versus the

591
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Speaker 2: One Holy Catholic and Apostolic faith. Like, that's cool, guys,

592
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Speaker 2: we'll do that. But to suggest that we should be

593
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Speaker 2: spending all of our times relitigating like fifteen seventeen when

594
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: there is an actual imminent political problem threatening all Christians

595
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Speaker 2: is to me a little, I don't know, a little misguided.

596
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Speaker 2: I don't think of politics as debate club. I think

597
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Speaker 2: of it as real political communities where people have to

598
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Speaker 2: live together and hopefully flourish. And I think we got

599
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: to get real sometimes. So I totally agree, Well, if

600
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Speaker 2: we can't.

601
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Speaker 3: Build a coalition between Protestants and Catholics in America, then

602
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Speaker 3: than we had. And listen, there's gonna be disagreements. There's

603
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Speaker 3: gonna be disagreements on theological stuff. That's fine, But you

604
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Speaker 3: are definitely an ally and I want to I want

605
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Speaker 3: to just keep encouraging that. So, Michael, we've been having

606
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Speaker 3: a really wonderful conversation and Blake wants to completely throw

607
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Speaker 3: a wrench in it perfect I was waiting, Yeah, well, so.

608
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Speaker 5: I think you know, we obviously touched upon the drama

609
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Speaker 5: around the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, but I think

610
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Speaker 5: all of us understand this is part of a bigger

611
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Speaker 5: debate about Israel America's relationship towards it, and we see

612
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Speaker 5: a lot of surging skepticism or outright hostility anti Semitism

613
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Speaker 5: for the last So I was wondering, do you have

614
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Speaker 5: anything if you've been following this. In addition to the

615
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Speaker 5: scuffle over the Holy Sepulcher, there's also been claims about

616
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Speaker 5: the last Christian settlement in the The all Christian Settlement

617
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Speaker 5: in the West Bank has claimed it's getting attacked a

618
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Speaker 5: lot by Israeli settlers. There's a lot of constant violence there.

619
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Speaker 3: There's also.

620
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Speaker 5: Reports of kind of the last Christians in Syria getting

621
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Speaker 5: wiped out as a result of the government there. And

622
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Speaker 5: I guess if you've been following either of those things,

623
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Speaker 5: if you have thoughts on them and how they relate

624
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Speaker 5: to America's alliances and relationships in the Holy Land.

625
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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly. You know, I do care particularly about persecuted

626
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Speaker 2: Christians in the Middle East. My friend father Benedict Kiehlely,

627
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Speaker 2: has a group called Nazarene dot Org, which I strongly

628
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Speaker 2: recommend people's support. It helps persecuted Christians in the Middle

629
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Speaker 2: East and elsewhere, but there are very few. You know,

630
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Speaker 2: these are the oldest Christian communities in the world, and

631
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Speaker 2: it's kind of funny when missionaries from America or Europe

632
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Speaker 2: say we're going to go and evangelize in the Middle East,

633
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Speaker 2: just so you know, they were the first ones they evangelized,

634
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Speaker 2: you believe it or not. And so they've been decimated

635
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Speaker 2: over the last twenty five years. You see this even

636
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Speaker 2: outside of the Middle East with Armenia. You know, the

637
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Speaker 2: Azerbaijan was unfortunately kind of won the war with Armenia destroyed.

638
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Speaker 2: Armenia is the oldest Christian nation in the world. It

639
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Speaker 2: became Christian before even the Edict of Milan, before Emperor Constantine.

640
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Speaker 2: And they've been really put on the back foot as well.

641
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Speaker 2: And it's ironic there because in the case of Azerbaijan

642
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Speaker 2: and Armenia, and this kind of brings it back to

643
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Speaker 2: the Israel issue. Israel was backing Azerbaijan, which is a

644
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Speaker 2: Muslim country, against Armenia, which is a Christian country. But

645
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Speaker 2: it's because Armenia had better relations with Iran, which is

646
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Speaker 2: a Muslim country, and I ran as the existential threat

647
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Speaker 2: to Israel. So bizarrely, the United States, which has a

648
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Speaker 2: good relationship with Armenia, was funding the weapons that were

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Speaker 2: going to Azerbaijan. And it becomes a real mess. So

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Speaker 2: how do we make sense of these things? Well, right

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Speaker 2: off the bat, I would say, obviously, one can criticize

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Speaker 2: the Israeli government and should in some cases, one should

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Speaker 2: be skeptical of entangling alliances broadly. But I would just

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Speaker 2: caution people, I would not allow your skepticism of or

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Speaker 2: even antipathy for Israel to push you into the position

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Speaker 2: of being pro Islam. You know, the Christians in the

657
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Speaker 2: Middle East and elsewhere who are persecuted are persecuted by Muslims.

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Speaker 2: We saw on Palm Sunday in Nigeria at least ten

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Speaker 2: Christians were massacred by Muslims in Nigeria and the Plateau

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Speaker 2: region just adds to the number, you know, which has

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Speaker 2: grown immensely in recent years. So it's a major problem.

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Speaker 2: And I think that sort of ideological or shallow responses

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Speaker 2: to these issues in the Middle East really missed the point.

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Speaker 2: You know, this is a long standing problem. Islam has

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Speaker 2: been a long standing problem for fourteen hundred years. The

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Speaker 2: question of sovereignty in the Holy Land has been disputed

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Speaker 2: for roughly two thousand years right now. And so a

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Speaker 2: little skepticism I think is merited. It's just it has

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Speaker 2: to be done with some balance and with some prudence

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Speaker 2: and with some charity. To look at Twitter, to look

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Speaker 2: at some podcasts, you would think that we've just we've

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Speaker 2: been in a quagmire in the Middle East for two

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Speaker 2: thousand years because someone didn't read, you know, the pseudonymous

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Speaker 2: Twitter accounts post. If only we had the tweeter, we

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Speaker 2: could have solved it all. No, these are immensely complex

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Speaker 2: problems that are not only religious but also political.

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Speaker 3: Was well said. I just want to I want to

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Speaker 3: give some credit that we did not prep him for that.

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Speaker 3: We did not. I just threw him to the wolves

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Speaker 3: on that one, and you navigated it deftly. I think

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Speaker 3: that the you know, you deserve some credit for that.

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Speaker 3: I was like, here we go here we go.

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Speaker 2: The problem though, is because I didn't just like throw

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Speaker 2: a grenade at you know, this country or that country

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Speaker 2: or whatever. I'm not going to get as many clicks.

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Speaker 2: My answer it was to a country too wordy?

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Speaker 3: I do which country?

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Speaker 7: Name?

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Speaker 3: Names? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Do you tell me the country? Which one is it?

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Speaker 3: Listen? I think that's great. All right, so we started

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Speaker 3: the show off, and we'll give you one last hard

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Speaker 3: one here. So does it does appear that President Trump

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Speaker 3: the Trump administration are positioning assets in the Middle East

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Speaker 3: for a potential boots on the ground situation. We don't

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Speaker 3: know yet if this is saber rattling. We don't know

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Speaker 3: if this is to strengthen a negotiating hand to you know,

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Speaker 3: I listen, if you doubt President Trump's will to do

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Speaker 3: military strikes of any nature, you shouldn't. And I think

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Speaker 3: he understands that he has that card to play. So

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Speaker 3: he's moving the assets in. What do you expect to

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Speaker 3: transpire in the next coming weeks? And if he does

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Speaker 3: use boots on the ground, what do you think the

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Speaker 3: political ramifications would be.

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Speaker 2: The political ramifications will be very, very tough. And the

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Speaker 2: reason that I think some people don't understand that is

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Speaker 2: because the war itself, for the strikes themselves, whether you

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Speaker 2: want to admit it's a war or you just call

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Speaker 2: them isolated strikes. Regardless, it has a lot of support

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Speaker 2: among conservative Republicans ninety percent support about but I think

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Speaker 2: that support is soft. I think people recognize Iran has

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Speaker 2: been a threat for a long time. There is a

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Speaker 2: grand strategic interest in getting rid of the Iranian regime.

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Speaker 2: Trump has been talking about this for forty years. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: they've been a thorn on our side for fifty years.

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Speaker 2: That's all true. But I think that ninety percent support

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Speaker 2: is soft. I think people have trauma from the political

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Speaker 2: experience of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. I think it

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Speaker 2: could collapse very quickly. However, and this was one of

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Speaker 2: the arguments for more restraint in Iran, is that the

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Speaker 2: die is cast. We are where we are. We cannot

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Speaker 2: let the Iranians get away with closing the straight of

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Speaker 2: horror moves. If we let them get away with that now,

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Speaker 2: we will have only strengthened the Iranian regime. I don't

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Speaker 2: care how many missiles we took out, I don't care

726
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Speaker 2: how many Iyetolas we killed. That will have strengthened them tremendously.

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Speaker 2: The next time we have any disagreement with them, they're

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Speaker 2: going to close that straight and they're going to feel

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Speaker 2: confident that we're not really going to do anything about it.

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Speaker 2: So I am a Trump truster. He's got a better

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Speaker 2: record on foreign policy than any president in my lifetime.

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Speaker 2: And what I've said since the beginning of this war

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Speaker 2: is I would have argued against it, and I did

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Speaker 2: argue against it. But Trump says five weeks, I'll start

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Speaker 2: worrying on week six. The issue right now, I think

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Speaker 2: for the polling and for the administration is Okay, we're

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Speaker 2: at the start of week five. If that means we're

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Speaker 2: entering into week six. Trump says, we're close to a

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Speaker 2: deal in the coming weeks. But I think you could

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Speaker 2: see that ninety percent support start to creter pretty quickly.

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Speaker 2: Am I am I a Panican? Am I being a Panican?

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Speaker 3: Nope? Now that's about where we started the show today.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, my position is I don't want boots

744
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Speaker 3: on the ground, but I'm with you that what you said,

745
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: the die is cast like this operation is under underway.

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Speaker 3: You cannot let that straight of horn moose get closed

747
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Speaker 3: and this is why we were reticent in the first place,

748
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Speaker 3: because war has a tendency of getting out.

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Speaker 5: Of Wars are unpredictable, they're easier to start than to end.

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Speaker 5: They are they just they rarely, they're expensive, and they're

751
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Speaker 5: just they're rarely. They rarely give you the outcome that

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Speaker 5: you're promised is the most likely one when you start.

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Speaker 3: Well and listen, when you look at some of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: You know that there's that video going viral online of

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Speaker 3: the No Kings in LA and they're saying, you know,

756
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Speaker 3: shoot ice agents. It's like, well, there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: enemy combatants here that I wish we would have spent

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Speaker 3: two hundred billion dollars addressing.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, anyways, but even just the focus of it.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, and so there's a lot of reason to feel

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Speaker 3: that kind of not in your stomach. We're praying for

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Speaker 3: our troops, we're praying for success, and we're praying for you, Michael,

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Speaker 3: God bless.

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Speaker 2: You, thanksk you gentlemen. Goodn to see you.

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Speaker 3: So if you're a parent, you don't need to be

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Speaker 3: told that online safety is important. That's why TikTok has

767
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: over fifty pre set safety and privacy settings, and beyond that,

768
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Speaker 3: parents can set up family pairing to help shape their

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Speaker 3: teens experience on the app. With family pairing, parents can

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Speaker 3: get visibility into their teens followers and who they follow,

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Speaker 3: help restrict content that's not right for them, and set

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Speaker 3: screen time limits. Parents can also set restricted times so

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Speaker 3: they're not on TikTok when they shouldn't be, because feeling

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Speaker 3: good about the time your teen spends online shouldn't come

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Speaker 3: with guess work. In addition to the already built in

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Speaker 3: safety and privacy protections, family pairing gives parents more tools

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Speaker 3: to shape their teens online experience based on what's right

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Speaker 3: for their family. Remember when safety comes first, discovery and

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Speaker 3: creativity can follow. Learn more by go into TikTok dot

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Speaker 3: com slash Guardian's Guide. Welcoming now to the show our

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Speaker 3: three TPUSA Frontlines journalists. We've got bo Alford front Lines

782
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Speaker 3: TPOSA reporter, We've got Gabe vikt Al Frontlines Phroto journalists,

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Speaker 3: and then we have Roe Ortis a new edition Frontline

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Speaker 3: TPOSA photo journalists. I believe she's in DC. Hello everybody, Oh,

785
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Speaker 3: good to see it. So you guys were all active

786
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Speaker 3: covering the Geriatrix against Kingship event holding signs by a

787
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Speaker 3: billionaire that lives in Shanghai. Tell us about what you saw.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we just start with you Bo. Where were

789
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Speaker 3: you stationed? What did you see? What was the vibes?

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, we were in New York City. I'd like

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Speaker 7: to start by saying it it feels great knowing that

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Speaker 7: we did our due diligence and making sure there are

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Speaker 7: no kings in America. No, we were in New York.

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Speaker 7: There was a good sized turnouts, but they're the people

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Speaker 7: there couldn't answer some of the more basic questions. I

796
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Speaker 7: had to ask them, which we can get that. Get

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Speaker 7: to that in a little bit. But yeah, I was

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Speaker 7: in New York City.

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Speaker 3: And Gabe, you were also in New York Is that right?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I was in New York along with Bow And you know,

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Speaker 11: to to mention the amount of people, there was a lot.

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Speaker 11: I mean there was about probably three hundred thousand people.

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Speaker 11: That's how many people rsvped for it or signed up online.

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Speaker 11: And you know, I've normally gone to these events and

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Speaker 11: they say that there's a lot more coming than there

807
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Speaker 11: actually is.

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Speaker 2: But for this event New York, it was a huge turnout.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's interesting to see. I mean three hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: for New York though, I mean, I mean it's like, what,

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Speaker 3: what is the population new York? Eight million? I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, all right, fine.

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Speaker 2: But then there's a lot of New York patriots.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is true.

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Speaker 11: There was actually a lot of people who did mention

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Speaker 11: that they did come from out of state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet that's true. Row, Where were you covering

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Speaker 3: and what did you see? What were the vibes?

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Speaker 12: I was in Washington, d C. There were It was

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Speaker 12: a good turnout.

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Speaker 9: There were lots of people, a couple of thousand, definitely,

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Speaker 9: it was mostly old white boomers. I barely saw people

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Speaker 9: of color. It was pretty tame compared to the protests

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Speaker 9: you saw in La or in Portland where they're spurry painting,

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Speaker 9: kill your local ice agent.

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Speaker 12: It was very chill and tame.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, that's that's a very interesting observation you just made.

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Speaker 3: And it reminded me of a clip we have ready

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Speaker 3: sat twenty three.

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Speaker 7: Seems like there's a lack of diversity here today, that

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Speaker 7: it's mostly people who look like you and I and

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Speaker 7: I just kissed it.

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Speaker 10: This is not it is not for pig black people.

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Speaker 10: For people of color to be to get out on

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Speaker 10: the street there at risk when they do that. If

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Speaker 10: anybody's going to get arrested here, it's going to be

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Speaker 10: a black person. It is not safe for them, and

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Speaker 10: they don't need to participate. We need to walk in

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Speaker 10: the name.

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Speaker 3: So did you guys get the vibe that if a

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Speaker 3: black person would have showed up at one of these

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Speaker 3: rallies that they would have got arrested. I'm just curious.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, not unless they were committee.

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Speaker 12: A KRRAC you know, love that white savior complex.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is I mean, it really was.

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Speaker 3: It was Robert de Niro, it was Bruce Springsteen, it

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Speaker 3: was Amy Kloeb.

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Speaker 5: But charge I think there was some sort of there

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Speaker 5: was like a musical rally that. Yeah, it was like

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Speaker 5: Bruce Springsteen. Bernie said it was something we're like the

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Speaker 5: youngest person there, Jane Fonda, Like the youngest person on

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Speaker 5: the stage was like seventy eight years old. Another thing

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Speaker 5: I saw they mentioned this, actually the Bulwark posted this.

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Speaker 5: They were pointing out turnout in the villages, you know,

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Speaker 5: a very Florida heavy part of Florida. They were saying

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Speaker 5: it was it was double the turnout of last year,

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Speaker 5: and there's video of you know, them racing by all

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Speaker 5: this turnout and Okay, yeah, I guess turnout is turnout,

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Speaker 5: but it does strike me that really the sort of

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Speaker 5: mass protest, it's a lot of people who wish they

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Speaker 5: were still prot testing the Vietnam War. It's very old

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Speaker 5: lib boomers basically, which there's a lot of great boomers

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Speaker 5: out there too, but this is a.

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Speaker 3: Subtype and maybe New York was different. So Rose saying

866
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: it was old boomers in DC, what about in New York?

867
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: I mean New York's younger city. There's a lot of people,

868
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: young people that flocked to New York to, you know,

869
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Speaker 3: try and start a life, and they're excited by the city,

870
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: and a lot of people from out of town.

871
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 7: Did you see a more diverse group there, bo or Gabe,

872
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 7: Not necessarily. I would say it was slightly more diverse.

873
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 7: But it is important to note that I was assaulted twice,

874
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 7: and both times I was assaulted was by old white men.

875
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 7: There were a few people that were diverse, but for

876
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 7: the most part, it was old white people that felt

877
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 7: like it was their need to speak up for minorities.

878
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say that it was very middle aged,

879
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 11: like older, millennial, younger gen X kind of people that

880
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 11: were at this protest for sure.

881
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: So which is interesting. You know, it's seventy five percent

882
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: of liberal students say preventing a speaker from talking is justified.

883
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: Twenty seven percent say violence is acceptable to stop your

884
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: political I guess enemies. Obviously we all live through the

885
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: assassination of our friend Charlie. And you know, you see

886
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: that conservatives show up on campuses, they get spat at,

887
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: they get blocked, they get harassed. You got assaulted, bo,

888
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. That's the first time hearing about this.

889
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 3: What like when you're to these people on the on

890
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: the streets, like, what is the animation? What is their

891
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: motivating factor? Why are they crossing these lines that have

892
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 3: been sacricyncd in American political culture? Why is this happening

893
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: right now? Do you get can you get any conclusion?

894
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, great question, I can tell you, especially the first

895
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 7: time that I was assaulted, which the videos coming out

896
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Speaker 7: here soon.

897
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Speaker 3: He didn't know the answer.

898
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 7: I asked a very basic question question and then people

899
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 7: started stepping in trying to get the subject changed. When

900
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 7: he couldn't get that answer, and one person took it

901
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 7: upon himself. He was an older white man walking when

902
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 7: I kept pressing him when he didn't know the answer,

903
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 7: and another man stepped in and decided to knock the

904
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 7: mic out of my hand, and then another person later

905
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 7: on in the day proceeded to try and knock my

906
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Speaker 7: beanie off.

907
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gabe, I'm sorry that happened to you. Bo Gabe,

908
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: you were probably right there with him, right.

909
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 11: You know, like these people, the reason that they get

910
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 11: so violent, at least in my opinion, is over and

911
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 11: over again, they're told that conservatives or that right wingers,

912
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 11: that even just journalists in general are Nazis, that they're violent.

913
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 11: And you know, if you were to think that our

914
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 11: grandparents or grandparents of great grandparents of many other people,

915
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 11: they went out and they fought Nazis on the front lines.

916
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 11: So they think that in their mind, it is justified

917
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 11: to attack us, to hurt us, because they truly believe

918
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 11: deep down that we are all these evil, authoritarian Nazi types.

919
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: Wrote you seem, you know, very sweet, not like bo

920
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 3: or Gabe. Did you get accosted at all at one

921
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 3: of these by any of these protesters.

922
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Speaker 12: I didn't.

923
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 9: I blended in very well though, but I knew if

924
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 9: I know that, if they knew my stance on things,

925
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Speaker 9: they would not be nice to me at all.

926
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Speaker 12: And honestly, it's just very unfortunate.

927
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Speaker 9: I feel that they have tunnel vision when it comes

928
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 9: to these issues, and it's reinforced by the media. I mean,

929
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 9: you saw the protests. There was the one I went

930
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 9: to in DC. There was a correspondent from MS NOW

931
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 9: and he had an f Trump shirt on as he's

932
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 9: like talking.

933
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 3: On reported on the news. Yeah.

934
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, and so they see that and they it just

935
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 9: reinforces this mindset that they have, and it's just very

936
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 9: unfortunate that they treat other people with such disrespect.

937
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

938
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Speaker 3: And did you get any insight when you ask them

939
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 3: questions of what they were protesting? I mean they obviously

940
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 3: Trump is not a king, but they they're saying it anyways,

941
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 3: did you get any insight?

942
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean it was funny.

943
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 9: So they were chanting this is what democracy looks like,

944
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 9: as they're advocating for the removal of a democratically elected leader.

945
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Speaker 12: I mean that is just so ironic.

946
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: Roe. You were in DC, you were talking all these

947
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: geriatric boomers and they you what kind of questions did

948
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: you ask them and did you find anything out? Did

949
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 3: you learn anything?

950
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 12: Well, I wasn't asking them questions.

951
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 9: I was just taking videos, but I was paying attention

952
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 9: to their signs, and one sign that really stuck out

953
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 9: to me was Hitler would be proud of you, Donald Trump,

954
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Speaker 9: And I think that is just such an insane thing

955
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Speaker 9: to say. Yeah, a lot of them were obviously very

956
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 9: unhappy with the orgn Iran. They were calling for the

957
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 9: abolishing ice, and most of the signs were really saying

958
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 9: they just don't want Trump, they want to remove him.

959
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bo, you were asking questions, what did what? Questions

960
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: did you ask and what did you learn? If anything?

961
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Speaker 7: Learned absolutely nothing. Questions I asked were very simple, what

962
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 7: brought you out here? What is the main reason you

963
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 7: were out here?

964
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 3: What is the biggest issue.

965
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 7: That you care about that brings you out here? And

966
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 7: then I was also asking about conservatives and trying to

967
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 7: see what their thoughts were on conservatives in general. So

968
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 7: I was asking, what are your thoughts on conservatives? Is

969
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 7: there anything you agree with conservatives on? What is your

970
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 7: message to conservatives? And their answers were always very extreme,

971
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 7: a few of them of which were actually wishing death

972
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 7: upon conservatives.

973
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really interesting interested in knowing if these people

974
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 3: understand the origins or the people that are funding these

975
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 3: networks that put on the no Kings rallies. For example,

976
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: Roy Singham somebody that we've brought up on this show

977
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 3: number of times. He's a billionaire in Shanghai. He attends

978
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 3: CCP workshops, he funnels millions of dollars through shell companies

979
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: through the United States, and three congressional committees have subpoened

980
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 3: him as a subject of investigation for being a CCP

981
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: foreign agent. So this is one of the guys funding

982
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: this so again communist country, probably a CCP foreign agent,

983
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 3: funneling millions of dollars for signs for these people to carry.

984
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: You've heard of Code Pink.

985
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 5: I remember Code Pink all the way back in the

986
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 5: Bush years, and well, that's funder of them.

987
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: That's a funny thing to bring up, actually, because if

988
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: you look at like nineteen nineties Democrat Party, they were

989
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 3: anti illegal immigration, they were pro parents, they were pro

990
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: balanced budget, they were pro borders, they were pro free speech.

991
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 3: They're basically like Bill Clinton is essentially from the nineteen

992
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: ninety is not dissimilar to the Conservative platform in many

993
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: ways in twenty twenty six. I mean, but they didn't

994
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 3: have a problem then. Did they call Bill Clinton a king?

995
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: I don't think they did. But I don't know if

996
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 3: there's if there's anything else really to surmise other than

997
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: that it's just really just an anti Trump rally that

998
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 3: is spread across the country, and I believe it's a

999
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: it's a they're trying to spark a color revolution. This

1000
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 3: is why you hear them talk about we need we

1001
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 3: just need three point five percent of the population in

1002
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 3: order to spark a color revolution. That's what they really want. Anyways,

1003
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 3: I don't think they got anywhere close to that this weekend,

1004
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: but nevertheless, it was pretty hilarious. Gabe and Bo. Last

1005
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: time we had you guys on, you were dodging IEDs

1006
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 3: in New York City from a terrorist. You were at

1007
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: the Gracie Mansion. I don't know, a terrorist incident. Have

1008
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 3: you guys had a chance to reflect on what I mean,

1009
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: you really were close to potentially putting your lives at line.

1010
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 3: Have you had a chance to reflect on that incident anymore?

1011
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 3: Have you heard any updates about that reflection?

1012
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 11: One hundred percent. We were praying very hard before going

1013
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 11: to New York again, because you know this this past weekend,

1014
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 11: it's definitely something that could have happened.

1015
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 8: Right.

1016
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 11: These radicals, they typically don't show up to these mass

1017
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 11: events where there's you know, over like one hundred thousand

1018
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 11: people at it, but one hundred percent they could, especially

1019
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 11: if they're you know, expecting any pushback from right wingers,

1020
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 11: from conservatives, and I one hundred percent, you know, was

1021
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 11: praying before, praying that you know, me and Bo would

1022
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 11: be safe and that also the other frontlines reporters would

1023
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 11: be safe across the country. I know we had people

1024
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 11: in LA and DC, but yeah, I definitely am glad

1025
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 11: that we got out of it safe, you know, the

1026
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 11: first time, and that this weekend there was no issues.

1027
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Gabe said that.

1028
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 7: I was just gonna reflect and say basically what he said.

1029
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 7: When I got home, definitely hugged my wife a little

1030
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 7: bit harder, and then I'm not gonna lie. I think

1031
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 7: that when we were told that we were going back

1032
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 7: to New York City for no Kings, it definitely was

1033
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 7: something in the back of my head, like, you know,

1034
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 7: the previous history of New York of course, and then

1035
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 7: also who we have elected is mayor in New York.

1036
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 7: That's definitely something that's always going to be in the

1037
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 7: back of your mind. So we definitely prayed a little

1038
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 7: bit harder and we're thanking God when we were safe.

1039
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1040
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, that that's the world we live in now.

1041
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 3: You know, I just hate it. I hate it for

1042
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: all of you guys. I hate it for the country.

1043
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: Wrote I'm going to give you the final word here.

1044
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 3: You are new to the TPSA Frontlines team. What is

1045
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 3: what is your beat? What are you gonna be covering?

1046
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: And how's it going so far?

1047
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 9: Oh, it's going great. I'm really enjoying this position. Being

1048
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 9: without this team has been fantastic. I'm gonna be working

1049
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 9: on a lot of mini docs exploring different things around America,

1050
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 9: different issues. At the moment, just heavily focusing on this

1051
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 9: administration and amazing things are doing.

1052
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we've got a White House correspondent it's about

1053
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 3: to have a baby. If I'm not.

1054
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, I'm cover for her.

1055
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 9: She is super pregnant, Like I think she's giving birth

1056
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 9: this week.

1057
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Speaker 12: It's crazy.

1058
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So Monica is our TPOSA front Lines White House correspondent.

1059
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: She is she got married, not too long ago, and

1060
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 3: then quickly they're expecting a child and she's about to

1061
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Speaker 3: get birth. So, Monica, we are praying for you and

1062
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 3: we wish you all the best. In the meantime, Rose

1063
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: coming in and she's doing great work already. Stay safe

1064
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 3: out there, guys. Thank you for coming on and telling

1065
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 3: us your experience, and we're glad you're safe. And the

1066
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: geriatric boomers didn't rough you up too bad. Bo could

1067
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: have been worse. It could have been worse so much.

1068
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: Why before you ever step behind him microphone, Charlie understood

1069
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Speaker 3: something important. Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a

1070
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: diploma or a title. He chased truth. Through Hillsdale College's

1071
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: free online courses, he studied the great works of the Classics,

1072
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Speaker 3: the principles of the American Founding, and the life changing

1073
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 3: truths of the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him,

1074
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: they shaped his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him

1075
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Speaker 3: for the challenges ahead of. One of the courses he

1076
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Speaker 3: took was The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale Professor doctor

1077
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Speaker 3: Justin Jackson. This free online course explores the relationship between

1078
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Speaker 3: God and man. What happens when that relationship is broken,

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about our next guest here. This is rid

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Speaker 3: von Ademir. He is also known as the Apostate Prophet.

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Speaker 3: You can check him out on YouTube on x under

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Speaker 3: that handle Apostate Profit. Welcome back to the show, my friend.

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Speaker 13: Thank you for having me. I'm very happy to be here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're happy to have you. So for those

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Speaker 3: of you in the audience who are maybe not aware

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Speaker 3: of Ridvan's story, he was born and raised a Muslim

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Speaker 3: and then sort of broke away from the faith and

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Speaker 3: now he's a Christian, which is excellent, but he gives

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Speaker 3: incredible insights about the Muslim mindset, the frame of mind,

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Speaker 3: their ideology, and so Ridvan I tasked you with specific

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Speaker 3: task to go figure out what the vibe is in

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Speaker 3: Iran right now the people on the ground. I know

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Speaker 3: you have a lot of Iranian friends, Persian friends, So

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Speaker 3: what is the vibe in Iran? And ultimately that leads

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Speaker 3: to the next question, are they going to rise up?

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Speaker 13: Okay, well, it's very complicated. I know, it's very complicated.

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00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 13: I talked to many Iranians over the last few days.

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Speaker 13: I have been following the whole situation very closely, talked

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Speaker 13: to Iranians. I speak to Iranians who live outside of Iran,

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Speaker 13: some that are inside Iran, some that are outside, and

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Speaker 13: communicate with families inside Iran. The situation is very complicated.

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Speaker 13: What people need to understand is that the people of

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Speaker 13: Iran haven't had access to the Internet for I think

1111
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,240
Speaker 13: thirty one days now, so it's been more than a month.

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Speaker 13: The Internet has been entirely and completely shut down by

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00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 13: the Islamic Republic, the Islamic regime, with the excuse that

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Speaker 13: you know, they have to tackle misinformation and international global

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00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 13: foreign and interference and all that, but shutting down your

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Speaker 13: own people's access to the Internet is of course a

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Speaker 13: very miserable way to treat your own people. And it's

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Speaker 13: clear why this is done. It's to prevent organizing, to

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Speaker 13: prevent mobilization, to prevent people communicating with each other. So

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Speaker 13: the average Iranian has great difficulties accessing information understanding what's

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Speaker 13: actually going on. Those Iranians that we see, we usually

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Speaker 13: see video recordings, we see, we receive some limited information.

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Speaker 13: The majority of Iranians are going to the latest research

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Speaker 13: of all different sources say that over eighty five to

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Speaker 13: ninety percent of Iranians despise the Islamic Republic that is

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Speaker 13: in charge and want it gone. So they have no

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Speaker 13: good feelings about this government. Many of them look with

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Speaker 13: hope at the current war. I know for some people

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Speaker 13: it seems like it's a little bit puzzling and confusing

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Speaker 13: that they would cheer on the bombing of their own country,

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Speaker 13: But that's not really what's happening. The current US and

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 13: Israeli strikes are vastly carried out on military sides and

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Speaker 13: you know, government facilities, vastly, not exclusively, but vastly. The

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Speaker 13: Iranians generally seem to be happy about it and celebrate it.

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Speaker 13: You can see them sharing videos of themselves singing about it.

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Speaker 13: And smiling and enjoying it and hoping for the downfall

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Speaker 13: of the Islamic regime. The problem is that the Islamic

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Speaker 13: regime is a is a strongly and firmly embedded regime

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Speaker 13: and authoritarian government that also has its own militia and

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Speaker 13: its own forces. Iran has two separate militaries, the regular

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00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 13: national military and then the one that is purely loyal

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Speaker 13: to the Islamic regime, that is an Islamic military, and

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00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 13: that military is very vicious and very loyal to the

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Speaker 13: Islamic regime. They have their own special forces to besiege.

1145
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Speaker 13: They have their the IRGC, which is the Islamic Revolutionary

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00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 13: Guard Corps, which is all about protecting Islam in the

1147
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 13: ambitions of the Islamic Republic. Those people are the pro

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00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 13: problem because as much as the people of Iran are

1149
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 13: willing to get rid of this regime, they are dealing

1150
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 13: with a very very barbaric, very ruthless, very vicious force

1151
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 13: that is loyal to the Islamic regime. They might come,

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00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 13: they might They might make up only less than ten percent.

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Speaker 13: Those who are loyal to the regime might only make

1154
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 13: up less than ten percent of the population, but they

1155
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 13: have very strong organized military and police forces that protect

1156
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 13: them and that have no issues shooting down civilians in

1157
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 13: masses in the thousands if they mobilize, which is why

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00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 13: we have not seen much of an uprising. And I'm

1159
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Speaker 13: sure you're going to ask that as a follow up.

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Speaker 13: So that's that's the situation right now. People are people

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00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 13: are hopeful that this will that America and Israel will

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Speaker 13: together do something to weaken and destroy this Islamic regime,

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Speaker 13: but they are also a little bit uncertain and frightened,

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Speaker 13: also because Donald Trump has kind of sent mixed messages

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01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 13: to the people of Iran, such as the latest is

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01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 13: stay inside while bombs are falling, but also at the

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Speaker 13: same time, sees the moment and you know, be ambitious,

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Speaker 13: make the change and all that. So there is uncertainty,

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Speaker 13: there is hope, There is some fear, But I would

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Speaker 13: say the most dominant feeling that I perceive from Iran

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Speaker 13: is that there is hope at the moment.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, we hope you're right, Ridvon, But at the same time,

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Speaker 5: I guess I just I sometimes wonder if when we

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Speaker 5: see these clips or when we see these narratives, like

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Speaker 5: are we being worked? Because I feel like certainly before

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Speaker 5: the strikes were launched. I think I perceived on X

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Speaker 5: I perceived on media a lot of efforts to sell oh,

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Speaker 5: it's really on the tipping point, it's clearly just about

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Speaker 5: to fall, and it looks really convincing, and then strikes happen.

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Speaker 5: And it's not even that the government doesn't collapse, it's

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Speaker 5: that there's not obvious signs that.

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Speaker 3: It would be on the ropes.

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Speaker 5: And I guess inevitably is it the case that when

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Speaker 5: we're seeing videos come out of countries like Iran, we

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01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 5: are going to see the people who are most likely

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Speaker 5: to have access to the internet, have access to smartphones,

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Speaker 5: have access to stuff, even when there's the middle of

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Speaker 5: a war going on. And that's just not going to

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Speaker 5: be a representative group for a country like Iran, where

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Speaker 5: there are rural people, poor people who are more likely

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Speaker 5: to be backing a fundamentalist regime like this one.

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Speaker 13: So first again I would like to establish I mean,

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Speaker 13: these are these are legitimate concerns and questions. But so

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Speaker 13: according to all the research, even by Iranian organizations come

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Speaker 13: on and certain others, when the Iranian people themselves are

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Speaker 13: pulled this is this is prior to the war. When

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Speaker 13: they are pulled and asked about their opinions on the

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Speaker 13: on the government and you know who or what should

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Speaker 13: be in charge, over eighty five percent of them say

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Speaker 13: that the Islamic regime should not be in charge. The

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Speaker 13: most popular option for people to pick as or you

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Speaker 13: know the who should be in charge is half or

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Speaker 13: up to a half of the population says that the

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Speaker 13: that the crown Prince as a partly v should be

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Speaker 13: should take over and should lead the country towards some

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Speaker 13: kind of democracy or something like that. So the people

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Speaker 13: are really really severely disheartened. Much of the videos that

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Speaker 13: come out are many of the videos that come out

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01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 13: come out after blackouts when somebody records something that we

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Speaker 13: wait for a while and then they somehow gain access

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Speaker 13: to the internet, they publish it and then we see it.

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Speaker 13: So I do have a lot of sources, a lot

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Speaker 13: of people. I can recommend many people who are doing

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Speaker 13: this all the time. One of those is a Canadian politician,

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Speaker 13: former politician actually was kicked out because she was speaking about,

1216
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Speaker 13: you know, critically about about Islam, Goldie Amari. She she

1217
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Speaker 13: posts about this or reports about this and talks to

1218
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Speaker 13: Iranians within Iran every every day, and so the sentiments

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Speaker 13: there are generally that the people have hope. Now there

1220
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Speaker 13: is one misunderstanding, which is you mentioned tipping point I

1221
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Speaker 13: would have been. I was also at the beginning of

1222
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Speaker 13: this war very careful to say that the Islamic regime

1223
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Speaker 13: is about to die or about to crumble. I was

1224
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Speaker 13: sure that the Supreme Leader Kamene would die and be killed.

1225
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Speaker 13: He was on the list very high of people who

1226
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Speaker 13: are to be killed. But the Islamic regime, as I said,

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Speaker 13: is not necessarily at a very terrible tipping point. They

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Speaker 13: are weakened, but even when they are weak, they have

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Speaker 13: a very firm ideology that they stand by. They are

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Speaker 13: hardcore ideologues and loyalists. If they only had three people

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Speaker 13: left in that government, they would still not give up,

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Speaker 13: and they would still fire whatever they have at their

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Speaker 13: surroundings in order to survive. This is not a government

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Speaker 13: that actually cares about the people. Think about it this way.

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Speaker 13: If in a Western nation the majority of the population

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Speaker 13: walked toward their government buildings and demanded that the government

1237
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Speaker 13: steps down, in a civilized Western society, the government would

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Speaker 13: most likely eventually give up. In Iran, Iranians are also

1239
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Speaker 13: very very much unlike most of the Middle Eastern people.

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Speaker 13: But their government is a very barbaric Islamist regime and

1241
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 13: they don't understand any of this. If the entire population

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Speaker 13: walked toward the government and demanded them to step down,

1243
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 13: they would have no problem shooting down and mowing down

1244
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 13: the entire population in order to preserve their ideology and

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Speaker 13: their ideological apocalyptic government which has the ambitions of bringing

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Speaker 13: about their end time figure and you know, expanding Islam

1247
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Speaker 13: or Shia Islam to the whole world. So there's also

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Speaker 13: one aspect which is at the beginning of the war,

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Speaker 13: Israel itself was trying to explore whether they could help

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Speaker 13: the Iranian people overthrow the regime. The latest reports are

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Speaker 13: that the Israeli government itself is a little bit frustrated

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Speaker 13: because they don't seem to really be able to mobilize

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Speaker 13: the Iranian people. It's because the Iranian people are scared.

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Speaker 13: The last time they stood up, the last few times

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Speaker 13: they stood up, they were massacred just a few months

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Speaker 13: ago in January, over thirty thousand of them were killed.

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Speaker 11: For the goodwill between our two people, which you see

1279
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 11: on vibrant display here today.

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Speaker 3: To continue, we must finish the job. This regime in.

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Speaker 12: Its entirety must go.

1282
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: If we do not finish the job and leave a

1283
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Speaker 3: ramp of the regime in place, the threat posed by

1284
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Speaker 3: this Islamic Republic will not be solved.

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Speaker 2: It will only be made worse. Terrorists cannot be trusted

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Speaker 2: to bring peace.

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Speaker 3: There are thugs. There are not deal makers. There are

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Speaker 3: agents of chaos. All right, So, Ridvan, we've got this

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Speaker 3: juxtaposition here right where you hear Raises saying we got

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Speaker 3: to have regime change. Trump is like, well, We've already

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Speaker 3: had regime change because the guys I'm working with right

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Speaker 3: now are really nice. And then we just got a

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Speaker 3: report from Breitbart saying Israel will decline to join any

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Speaker 3: ground operations Americans might launch and Iran there's all kinds

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Speaker 3: of mixed signals. Are we gonna do We need boots

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Speaker 3: on the ground to get this done, to get this

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Speaker 3: mission accomplished, to get the overthrow of the regime? And

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Speaker 3: is that is that we're against that? I'll just be

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Speaker 3: really honest, we're against that on the show. And so

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Speaker 3: does that needed? Because they're not armed. The IRGC is armed.

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Speaker 3: That's why they mow people down in the streets. How

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Speaker 3: do you overthrow this regime without boots on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Israel says they're not gonna help. Raza says, we've got

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Speaker 3: to get regime change. Make it all make sense.

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Speaker 13: And that's also one of the main issues why the

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Speaker 13: Runians are not really rising up to overthrow the regime.

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Speaker 13: Rising up to overthrow the regime is not something that's

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Speaker 13: uh that the that the Iranian population would really be,

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Speaker 13: you know, would lovingly do it would result in mass

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Speaker 13: violence and killings, and it's not it's it's not a

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Speaker 13: very good Iranian uh trade that are that they are

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Speaker 13: really really into, unlike most of the other you know,

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Speaker 13: Middle Eastern or Arab countries for example. It is a

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Speaker 13: very difficult situation. It depends on what's really what what

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Speaker 13: the plan really is. The thing is that Donald Trump

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Speaker 13: and net Nyahu both said that that that there is

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Speaker 13: no future for this entire regime, so that the regime

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Speaker 13: must go. But then Trump also said that he's actually

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Speaker 13: in good talks with the current you know, Iranian leadership,

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Speaker 13: whereas the Iranian side said, we are actually not so

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Speaker 13: we we're receiving lots of mixed signals and there is

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Speaker 13: a there is a complex situation on the ground. The

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Speaker 13: Iranian military says, there are no talks. We will not

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Speaker 13: surrender to any of your demands. You will lose this war,

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Speaker 13: publishing leg away eye videos and things like that. What

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Speaker 13: what the what the American government currently demands from them

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Speaker 13: is that they completely roll back their nuclear enrichment program,

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Speaker 13: because Iran made it very clear that they planned to

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Speaker 13: enrich uranium to absurd levels of you know, sixty or

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Speaker 13: eighty or ninety and civilian reasonable civilian use is kepped

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Speaker 13: at five percent, So they are clearly aiming for military use.

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Speaker 13: To dismantle most of the nuclear facilities, to stop completely,

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Speaker 13: and disband all their proxy military units like the Hezbolah,

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Speaker 13: the Huthis and all that. Iran is not going to

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Speaker 13: do these things. Any kind of peace deal that might

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Speaker 13: be reached will be a temporary one, and if there

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Speaker 13: is a peace deal that will be reached, we will

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Speaker 13: be in no time back to fighting again after this,

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Speaker 13: maybe in months, maybe in a few years. So the

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Speaker 13: regime needs to go, it needs to change. It is also,

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Speaker 13: i would say, from my perspective, a moral issue. This

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Speaker 13: is a regime that brutally mistreat eats and kills its

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Speaker 13: population over nothing, over women or girls refusing to cover

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Speaker 13: themselves properly and all that. For a power like America,

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Speaker 13: it would be a it would be a good and

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Speaker 13: moral thing to help them take out this regime. That said,

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Speaker 13: I also would not like to see boots on the

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Speaker 13: ground in the traditional way. It would be a very

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Speaker 13: difficult situation. It would bring suffering to America, to Americans,

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Speaker 13: and it could also escalate very quickly and result in

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Speaker 13: massive bloodshed over there. What I do think is reasonable

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Speaker 13: is if if America and Israel take this seriously and

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Speaker 13: you know, gain complete air superiority over Iran, which is

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Speaker 13: by the way, one of the goals of the of

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Speaker 13: the of the of the current proposed piece deal to

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Speaker 13: have complete, you know, intrusive surveillance over Iran. If they

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Speaker 13: gain proper air superiority, I think the only way that

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Speaker 13: boots on the ground could be done would be to

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Speaker 13: send in a special force to take out certain targets

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Speaker 13: and then to establish a you know, a a proper

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Speaker 13: force for the people inside that country. But that is

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Speaker 13: I am at these points just speculating and you know,

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Speaker 13: wishing and hoping for something which it's unclear what's gonna

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Speaker 13: come here.

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Speaker 5: I just it makes me concerned where people say, as

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Speaker 5: you say, the regime is bad, the regime must go.

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Speaker 5: But if we're gonna say the regime must go, what

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Speaker 5: is actually the expense we're willing to bear? Because I

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Speaker 5: think if you could topple this government entirely with air power,

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Speaker 5: it would have happened by now. And so instead, once

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Speaker 5: you're committing troops, well, it's a country, what is it?

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Speaker 5: Three times the size of I think three times the

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Speaker 5: size of Humantaine. It's like five times the size of Texas,

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Speaker 5: something like that. Ninety million people, very rugged.

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Speaker 3: Very mountainous.

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Speaker 5: It's got a lot of big cities, it's got a

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Speaker 5: lot of deserts, it's got a lot of mountain forests.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think a few thousand people could topple

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Speaker 5: that government. You would actually need a big commitment. And

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Speaker 5: at that point, I don't think we have the political

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Speaker 5: lift for that in the United States. I don't think

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Speaker 5: we have the readiness to spend that sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: And then you're stuck asking yourselves, Okay, well we say

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Speaker 5: the regime must go, but do we actually.

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Speaker 3: Think that or can we tolerate in my issues? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my issue is then it's like, well, listen, I don't

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Speaker 3: want a nation build. I mean, I want regime change

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Speaker 3: for the Iranian people, but I want stuff for America too.

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Speaker 3: And the whole time we're focused on this, we're not

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Speaker 3: spending two hundred billion dollars here at home to get

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Speaker 3: it fixed, you know what I mean. So I just

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Speaker 3: as an American, you're kind of going, Okay, if we

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Speaker 3: can't get everything we want, but we can get the

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Speaker 3: straight of horn moves open, and we can get you knows,

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Speaker 3: no nukes and of their ballistic missiles whatever. Is that

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Speaker 3: good enough? Right? At some point Iranians need to take

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Speaker 3: this into their own hands and maybe raise it can

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Speaker 3: do it. Maybe he can spark this revolution.

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Speaker 13: Maybe, I mean he tries, He tries to appeal to

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Speaker 13: the loyal forces all the time. The issue is, so

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Speaker 13: you know that there is one conversation that people have

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Speaker 13: and that people raise, which is that that the Islamic

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Speaker 13: regime in Iran does not pose an imminent threat to

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Speaker 13: the United States of America. I agree that it doesn't

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Speaker 13: pose an imminent threat to the United States of America. However,

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Speaker 13: it does pose a threat overall. And you know, when

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Speaker 13: you haven't when you have a very vicious, fierce enemy,

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Speaker 13: you usually don't wait until they pose an imminent threat. So,

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Speaker 13: even if it is simply for our own interests, if

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Speaker 13: America just lets them be and comes out with a

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Speaker 13: deal that prevents them from advancing their nuclear enrichment program,

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Speaker 13: first of them not, I do not believe for a

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Speaker 13: second that the Islamic regime will actually honor that. The secondly,

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Speaker 13: the Islamic regime has it in their constitution and in

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Speaker 13: their words the entire time. Make no mistake. They are

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Speaker 13: expanding their ballistic missile capability capabilities. Their slogan, their most

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Speaker 13: popular slogan has been for forty years now, death to

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Speaker 13: America and death to Israel. Uh, America is the is

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Speaker 13: the great Satan. Israel is the smallest son.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to wrap up. We're running out of

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Speaker 3: time here, but your point is well made. Thank you

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Speaker 3: for making the time.

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Speaker 13: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: We're praying for success in a quick and a quick

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Speaker 3: wrap up, wrap up to this conflict in Iran. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: my friend. We'll talk to you soon.

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