1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: Hey, Trip, thanks for joining me. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 4: Trip Lee double Ward and Stellar Award winning hip hop 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 4: artist who as a new worship EP for Your Glory 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 4: come out February the thirteenth. I really enjoyed this. It's 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 4: so good. Trip, I con send you kind of a 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 4: pioneer in this genre. So I'm just curious. This is 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 4: your first explicitly worship centered album from my understanding, why 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 4: is this the right moment to step into this lane? 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: I think this has been something that's been on my 13 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: heart for a long time. And you know, brag worship 14 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: the that's the name of this kind of collective. 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: And I am you. 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Know, bragging on God has been really central to my 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: music the whole time. You know, people like listening to 18 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: my old records that ar me talk about bragging on 19 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: the Lord instead of it myself. And hip hop is 20 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: such a you know, boast for art form. If it 21 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: was you know, Olympics for bragging rappers, we get the 22 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: gold medal every time. And so I always was like, 23 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: oh man, if this is gonna be a really in 24 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: your face for art for him, I want to do 25 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: what scripture says, which is like in Jereman Mine nine 26 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: where it says let he who's strolled that boasting his 27 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: strength and the wise man boasting his wisdom, but instead 28 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: boasting the Lord. And so that's what I'll try to 29 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: do with my music and this. And so though I've 30 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: been doing that with my music this whole time, something 31 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: that's been on my heart is I just think it's 32 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: really important the songs that Christians sing together. So when 33 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: I say a worship album, I don't just mean I'm 34 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: just rapping on the verse and then there's a worship 35 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: be sound and hook. I mean these are the songs 36 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: meant for gathered Christians to sing together. And that's such 37 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: an important thing in a Bible and something that has 38 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: blessed me. And I'm like, you know, I would love 39 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: that'll be more of it, and I would even love 40 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: that it'll be more that comes from all different kinds 41 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: of cultural expressions. And so I there is something that's 42 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: been on my heart for a long time, and I'm 43 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: just grateful all the pieces have come together. 44 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: Now, and it includes collaborations with several other artists, including 45 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: on Elmi, Rainey Johnson trailer, and others. It's my understanding 46 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: that chronic illness kind of helps shape this project as well. 47 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: Tell us about that. For those who don't know about 48 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: your chronic illness, how did seasons of weakness maybe help 49 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 4: influence the lyrics. 50 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: Sure, I've had an illness for a very long time 51 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: and it, you know, crying of fatigue syndrome is kind 52 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: of the shorthand doctors don't understand it that will's autoimmune 53 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: things going on in my body. And you know, that's 54 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: the hardest part of every part of my life, and 55 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: it has been for you know, over fifteen years. And 56 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: I think what that's mainly shaped in me is the 57 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: way that I see the world and myself and God, 58 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: even as like an artist. You know, there's so many 59 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: dreams and ambitions and stuff I've wanted to do with 60 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: my body just has not allowed me to do. 61 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 3: And so I think another when we think about worshiping. 62 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: God, we think, oh, let me, you know, joy the Lord. 63 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: Let me just think about all the happy things going on, 64 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: and you know whatever, unhappy things just pretend like they're 65 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: out there. And I think that's not how we see 66 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: God worshiping the bid, but we see people bringing their 67 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: complaints to God saying life is really hard, but you're 68 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: really good. All my friends have abandoned me, but you're 69 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: my friend. I don't have any way to stay, but 70 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: you're my refuse, You're my shelter. And that shapes how 71 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: I write these songs too. So even the first song 72 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: on the EP, for Your Glory, though it is singing 73 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: about how everything is for my good and for God's glory. 74 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: The verses of being really honest. The life is hard, 75 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: you know. The first verse starts. 76 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: Why do trials keep coming for me? Why does hope 77 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: love to ignore me? 78 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: Still? 79 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I trust you write my story. What illness has done 80 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: for me is it's kept me from the lie that 81 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: I'm strong enough to get things done, that all my 82 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: successes are because of me, that I have everything under control. 83 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: I can't live under that illusion because I have an illness, 84 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: and so I think it's shaped how I see the 85 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: world and how I've written this music. 86 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: That's powerful. 87 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 3: That's powerful. 88 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 4: This album, of course, comes out of the new umbrella 89 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 4: of brag worship, which you referenced earlier. 90 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: I want to read this news release. 91 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: It says brag worship exists to broaden what worship can 92 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: sound like while remaining centered on the Greatness of God brag. 93 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: Worship is not intended to stand apart from modern worship 94 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: to but to stand alongside it. Why do you think 95 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: it's important right now for worship music to kind of 96 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: expand what it sounds like? What does that look like 97 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: to you? I agree with you, but I'm just curious 98 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: what your thoughts are. 99 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't think when we think of 100 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: what you know, I remember playing one of these songs 101 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: for a friend of mine alone time ago, and he's like, oh, 102 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: this is good, but it's. 103 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: Not worship music. And I'm like, well, what makes you 104 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: say that. It's like, oh, it doesn't have the sound. 105 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: And I while they're like, there are reasons why a 106 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: lot of worship music has this particular sound in ways 107 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: that they've thought about to serve people. 108 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying there are more ways that it 109 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 3: could sound. 110 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: You know. 111 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: I think if Jesus is a savior for all peoples 112 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: and all nations, then there should be as many expressions 113 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: of worship as there are cultures. You know, it can 114 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: sound lots of different ways, and so I think it 115 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: helps us to think about, Okay, what we're talking about. 116 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: We're talking about worhiping God with music is making much 117 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: of him, letting the word of Christ dwell in us, 118 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: making melody in our heart to the Lord, and singing 119 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: songs to encourage each other. 120 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: And that can sound different ways as long as it 121 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: serves that purpose. 122 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: And so you know, I know friends who like, Oh, 123 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: I like worshiping God, but the worship music I'm aware 124 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: of doesn't really with me in the same way. And 125 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm like, well, yeah, let's continue to 126 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: make more kinds of worship music that can connect with 127 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: with all kinds of people. 128 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: Amen to that, you know, I think it's just building 129 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 4: on that trip. If we were to name a book 130 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: of the Bible that is filled with worship, we probably 131 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: list song and I bet psalms. I bet the songs 132 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: sounded a lot different than what we oh my Goodness 133 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: and then what we call worship music today. So I 134 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 4: think that's probably one of the best arguments. 135 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: For what you're talking about. 136 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 4: You're working on a new ra albout rap album as 137 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 4: well or a new hip hop albums. 138 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to tell. 139 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: Us anything about that, but this is this is You've 140 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 4: got this project coming out February thirteenth for your Glory, 141 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 4: but you have something else coming out later this year? 142 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: Can you tell us anything about that for fans. 143 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: For your fans, I do not want to promise that 144 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: it's coming out later this year, Okay, I think I say, well, 145 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: I will say. You know, as I've been finishing this, 146 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: this worship project, I've been trying to keep myself from 147 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: working too much on an album because I really wanted 148 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: to get this project done and it's so important to me. 149 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, this I'm not doing this project because I 150 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: don't have more rep songs in me or I'm disinterested 151 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: in it. But this is just something really important to 152 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: me that I wanted to do too that I think 153 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: both of these as my career continues, both of these 154 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: will be the kinds of music that people will hear 155 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: from me, and going forward, it'll always be a little 156 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: bit of both. 157 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: So this worship album, though, it just have a little 158 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 2: bit of a hip hop sound too. 159 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 4: It I was having trouble describing it actually, so I 160 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: was listening to it, and that's a good thing as 161 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: an artist, I think, to make something that hasn't been 162 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 4: made before. 163 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 2: How would you describe the sound of this worship album. 164 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of. 165 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Hard to do because it's so shaped by all of 166 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: my different influences, and that was part of I wanted 167 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: to approach it. 168 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 3: I didn't want to approach it like it has to 169 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 3: sound just this one way. 170 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: The only thing I was thinking was if it sounds 171 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: like this, so this verse is written like this, will 172 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: it keep people from being able to sing to God? 173 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: You know? 174 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I think sometimes we think the songs we sing or 175 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: Sunday morning is like, oh, let me listen to people 176 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: sing good. But what I want to do is I 177 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be the kind of songs that are calling 178 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: everyone to an engauge because the Bible commands us to 179 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: sing songs together. It's not something we came up with. 180 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: That's part of how God has called us the worship and. 181 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: When we come together. 182 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: So that's been the main thing I'm thinking. But yeah, 183 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: it is hard to describe. I mean, some of it 184 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: might feel kind of hip hop influence to pop influence, 185 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: the soul influenced. I think maybe one of the main 186 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: things about the sound is it. 187 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: Is not too restricted by anyone influence. 188 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: I think that's right. 189 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: I think that's right. 190 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 4: Your social media bio says rapper, author, preacher, tell us 191 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 4: about the preaching aspect of this and for those who 192 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: don't know, you can go to Tripley's social media account 193 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: and see clips of him preaching. And it's really good 194 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 4: to tell us about the tell us about the preaching 195 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: aspect of your life. 196 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: Well, I. 197 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Have always been even in my music, I thought, Oh, 198 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: what's this big truth about God that I'm starting to 199 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: see and how can I help other people see? And 200 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: preaching has been a part of that for a really 201 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: long time. I've pasted it. I was passoring for about 202 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 1: ten years and in different places, and preaching God's word 203 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: I think is I don't know, it brings me joy 204 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: in a way that nothing else does. I mean, God 205 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: has told us what He's like, and if I get 206 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: to open the Bible and help people see that that 207 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: I love to do it. And I actually think me 208 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and a rapper helped me to be a better preacher 209 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: because for years and years I was trying to say, 210 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: really be a complex truth about God and really memorable, 211 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: simple catchy ways. 212 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: And that's how I approach preaching God's word too. 213 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to lose any depth, but I want 214 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: it to be very approachable. I want them to be 215 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: word pictures. I want them to be things that help 216 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: you to understand what God is saying to it. So 217 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: it feels like it. It's always going hand in hand 218 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: with what I've done musically too. 219 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: How didn't you get into hip hop in the first place? 220 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved I loved music since I was a 221 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: little kid. My dad loved music. He's always playing his 222 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: favorite music for me. And then I fell in love 223 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: with hip hop when I was a teenager and I 224 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: started rapping me and my friends with freestyle ballist school, 225 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: and I was rapping about how great I was, how 226 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: many girls I could get, I meet Jesus. And then 227 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wait, maybe the universe doesn't revolve around me. 228 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: Maybe it revolves around him. My music should reflect that, 229 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: and so yeah, so I started to rethink how I 230 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: was rapping. And I met Lacree and Todays to some 231 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: other guys when I was fifteen sixteen years old, and 232 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: I signed a record that when I was in high school, 233 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: they were just getting started making Christian hip hop, and 234 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: we thought, hey, we love Jesus, we love rap, let's 235 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: let's do this together. And the lords just giving us 236 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: amazing opportunities. How did you come to faith in Christ. 237 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: There was a church that my family went to in Dallas, 238 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 1: a church that I eventually went back and pasted that 239 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: for a few years, Conquered Church, and I, you know, 240 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 1: I was going with my family when I was a 241 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: little kid. When I was you know, a teenager, I 242 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: started going to youth groups just for social reasons. 243 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: I was trying to talk to girls. 244 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: And we had a great youth pastor who you know, 245 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: we had fun stuff, but he opened the Bible and 246 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: preached the Gospel of Jesus, and the Lord grabbed a 247 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: hold of my heart. And then he also used that 248 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: youth pastor to help me to begin to study God's 249 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: word and to get serious about what it meant to 250 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: follow Jesus. So it was really just faithful followers of 251 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Jesus doing what Jesus tells us to do, which is 252 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: tell others about him and walk with each other. 253 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 2: One final question for you. 254 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: I love to talk to hip hop stars and asking 255 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 4: this question because hip hop often is thought of as 256 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: something that I guess glorifies things that are not of 257 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 4: this not of the Bible, and you're doing just the opposite. 258 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: So how is important. How important is it to. 259 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 4: You to make excellent art for the sixteen year old 260 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: trip Please out there who are looking for something that 261 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: they like that aligns with their beliefs. 262 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: It's incredibly important to me. 263 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: I always say, you know, if you to people who 264 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: are making Christian art, if you just want to say 265 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: true things, then just talk to somebody. But if you 266 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: want to if you want to make music, you want 267 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: to make art to make it excellent. And it was 268 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: really important to me, especially someone who loved hip hop 269 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: so much. It actually was transformative to me to see 270 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: people who loved Jesus, knew their Bible and loved hip 271 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: hop and were good at it. The Lord actually used 272 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: that to open my mind to who he could be 273 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: making me into. It was transformative. I went to Bible 274 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: College because of a rapper I saw who knew the 275 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: Bible so well. 276 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: I said, I want to know the Bible like that. 277 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: He was also the coolest person I've ever saved my life, 278 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: to be clear, but I was like, man, how do 279 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: I know the Bible like that? So it's very important 280 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: to me because I think music has more impact on 281 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: people's souls than we realize in the amount that It 282 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: shapes people's values, especially while we're young, and so I 283 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: feel very grateful to gud. Lets me try to make 284 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: great music. You gave a shout out to an artist 285 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: there who is an artist ambassador from Lacrosse Moved. 286 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 2: I know what you're talking about. Yeah, absolutely excellent. 287 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: If you were talking to Trip Lee as a new 288 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 4: album though in February to thirty four your glory. 289 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: Hey, Trip, thanks so much, Thank you so much for 290 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: having me. 291 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: If you enjoy today's interview, please make sure to subscribe 292 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: and share the episode with a friend. 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