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Speaker 1: to the third illudition of the program. I want to
Speaker 1: begin with a monologue about what's happened to the Democrats
Speaker 1: and I followed this pretty closely for my adult life.
Speaker 1: My grandfather was a Democrat at Roll Fire chief of Ashtabille, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Lifelong fireman, loved FDR. He was born on Leap Year,
Speaker 1: eighteen ninety two. He died in nineteen ninety three. I
Speaker 1: lived to be one hundred and one, never cast a ballot,
Speaker 1: ballot for Republic. In his life. We had lots of
Speaker 1: fun conversations about politics and what had happened to me.
Speaker 1: For the last twenty years of his life, plus we
Speaker 1: would talk politics. He was a c SPAN actor and
Speaker 1: he's a Democrat. FDR Democrat. They aren't around anymore and
Speaker 1: now they've gone over the edge, and I think it
Speaker 1: was the Biden debacle freed up the progressive, transgressive, left
Speaker 1: wing socialists to take over the party, which is now
Speaker 1: effectively socialism in their mouth, Marxism in their brain, communism
Speaker 1: in their heart. But they're also repulsive in many different ways,
Speaker 1: including the necessity of being transgressive, attacking parenthal rights over children,
Speaker 1: suggesting multiple genders beyond two, trying to actually destroy Western
Speaker 1: culture along the way. I want to run through a
Speaker 1: bunch of clips illustrative of this, because with the exception
Speaker 1: of Alaska, Florida, Wyoming, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Delaware, Louisiana,
Speaker 1: the state primaries are done and none of those have
Speaker 1: a particularly interesting race, except maybe Massachusetts on the Democratic side.
Speaker 1: But they're not interesting in terms of running lunatics. Ed
Speaker 1: Markey's already a lunatic in Massachusetts, but they've just gone
Speaker 1: way off the map. Let's begin with anc. This is
Speaker 1: sitting Georgia Senator John Ossoff cut number two.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about reparations. Sure, all right, I'm for it.
Speaker 1: What's your stance?
Speaker 3: So Senator Cory Booker has legislation in the Senate, right
Speaker 3: to establish a commission for the purposes of studying the
Speaker 3: right way to redress the grievance to pay the debt
Speaker 3: never paid forty acres and the mule was never paid.
Speaker 2: Out right, and that was an actual promise.
Speaker 3: That was an actual promise of the federal government. There
Speaker 3: is a debt unpaid. I think it is a very
Speaker 3: very difficult question how to pay it.
Speaker 2: But see that should be the question, not if it
Speaker 2: should be paid.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, Okay, John Assoff sitting Senator for reparations. That's wild.
Speaker 1: Then that's beyond the political norm. Adam Scheff sitting Democrat
Speaker 1: on Politico with dash Burn's cut number four.
Speaker 4: It's not an easy question. And Frank, I've got enough
Speaker 4: difficult questions at the federal level. But one thing that
Speaker 4: is not difficult for me, and that is there should
Speaker 4: be a wealth tax at the federal level. There should
Speaker 4: be a much more progressive tax code than the one
Speaker 4: we have.
Speaker 1: Okay, we need a wealth tax, Adam ship that is
Speaker 1: by the way, socialism gone mad. Here's Abdul l sayed.
Speaker 1: The nominee in and the running whose running mates is
Speaker 1: on Piker ad on the Politics and pro Zoom call
Speaker 1: cut number six.
Speaker 5: It is going to require taxes, and the question of
Speaker 5: who pays those taxes is an important question. There's a
Speaker 5: philosophical debate about how much of those taxes we would
Speaker 5: ask working Americans to pay. And I follow on the
Speaker 5: argument that I think it's important that from the political
Speaker 5: economy perspective, that everybody pays a bit in because when
Speaker 5: you look at conservative arguments for Social Security and Medicare,
Speaker 5: it almost always has to do with the fact that
Speaker 5: I paid into the system, ergo I take from the system,
Speaker 5: and I think that is a justification that's worth investing in.
Speaker 1: Here. So you've got John assof calling for operations, You've
Speaker 1: got Adam Shift calling for a federal tax hike on
Speaker 1: the wealthy, and you've got Abdulah i'l sayad calling for
Speaker 1: a tax hike on everyone. Let's go to Kamala Harris
Speaker 1: doing a podcast with Stacy Abrams. Cut number seven, partial change.
Speaker 6: I think we need to revisit the efficacy of the
Speaker 6: electoral college. I think we need to expand the Supreme
Speaker 6: Court and look at reforms. You know, so much of
Speaker 6: what we are dealing with right now, back to the
Speaker 6: point of just a violation of civil rights and all
Speaker 6: that your parents in mind fought for the Supreme Court
Speaker 6: decisions by this court that was basically at this point
Speaker 6: hand selected by Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Basically not true. She doesn't know that. Apparently three members
Speaker 1: have been of the nine were nominated by Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and they were confirmed by the Senate, and they're very
Speaker 1: good justices, and she does not recognize that. But she
Speaker 1: wants to tear up the Constitution in the electoral college
Speaker 1: and packed the court. More kammona heiress with Stacy Abrams
Speaker 1: cuttnumber eight.
Speaker 6: That part of the pain of this moment, Stacey, is
Speaker 6: these so called leaders who are pushing this kind of
Speaker 6: this narrative about who is a legitimate American citizen among
Speaker 6: American citizens, this blood and soil narrative that's being pushed
Speaker 6: at the highest levels of our government.
Speaker 1: Some people argued for a birthright citizenship, including me, a
Speaker 1: Republican in good standing and a conservative, and some people
Speaker 1: argued there the fourteenth Amendment wasn't clear. The Court has
Speaker 1: decided it, so it's not being pushed. Not a narrative,
Speaker 1: it's made up in her mind, which is often empty
Speaker 1: of any kind of coherent thought. One more cut from
Speaker 1: the Stacy Abrams Podcast with Kammi Aires, cut number nine.
Speaker 7: And I know you've been spending a lot of time
Speaker 7: in the South reascent, see in Louisiana and North Carolina.
Speaker 7: And what I tell people when they want to understand
Speaker 7: what authoritarianism can look like in the US, as it
Speaker 7: looks out, we have lived under authoritarianism, I would say since.
Speaker 8: Seventeen seventy six.
Speaker 1: Now you know why she was not selected for the
Speaker 1: vice presidency when Kamlala Harris was because she says crazy
Speaker 1: stuff like that, let's go to Beggy Flat again. Democrat
Speaker 1: nominee for Senate in Minnesota with Willie Geis this morning,
Speaker 1: Cut number ten. She's not responsible for fraud. It's all
Speaker 1: somebody else's fault.
Speaker 9: Do you deserve any responsibility the lieutenant governor for those
Speaker 9: fraud schemes have taken place in your state over the
Speaker 9: last several years?
Speaker 10: I would say, you know, the governor says the buck
Speaker 10: stops with him.
Speaker 11: More should have been done sooner, and I agree.
Speaker 10: And now we know that one hundred people have been charged,
Speaker 10: sixty have been convicted.
Speaker 1: It's not be Babe, she should have humed Bob Dylan.
Speaker 1: It's tim Waltz, it's not her ro Kana also running
Speaker 1: for president. On PR with Stevenskeep This Morning Cut number twelve.
Speaker 12: He excluded a lot of the black South, where domestic workers,
Speaker 12: agriculture workers didn't get a chance. He purposely set social
Speaker 12: Security at sixty five, knowing that a black life expectancy
Speaker 12: was fifty nine.
Speaker 3: That was the only way he was going to get
Speaker 3: Southern support for It's a social reform.
Speaker 12: So yeah, he excluded, of course Japanese Americans and turned them.
Speaker 12: But a multiracial New Deal, in my view, is what
Speaker 12: is needed, and it will probably be one of America's
Speaker 12: greatest moments because what we can do and we'll do
Speaker 12: in America, I don't know if it'll be my generation
Speaker 12: or the next generation. We will become the world's first
Speaker 12: cohesive multiracial democracy.
Speaker 1: So FDR was racist, that's new I taught. I began
Speaker 1: this monologue by talking about my grandfather, an FDR Democrat.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a racist. That was remoting up in Northeast
Speaker 1: and I actually be able to end to the underground railroad.
Speaker 1: It was as freestyle as freestyle ever gets. It's an
Speaker 1: insult to everyone in northeastern Ohio. But you go with
Speaker 1: that ro He's been on this a guest on this
Speaker 1: program a number of times. I'm disappointed in him. And
Speaker 1: then let's put the icing on the cake. Hassan Piker
Speaker 1: now the new Voice, the new Kingmaker, and the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: pleading for people to stop the mean Republicans from bringing
Speaker 1: up the fact he said racist Islamist apologetics nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: America deserved that crazy stuff cut number fifteen.
Speaker 13: I know we don't always see Eyei on a lot
Speaker 13: of stuff, but you have to literally at some point.
Speaker 13: I know you don't want to do this, defend me,
Speaker 13: and not because not because you love what I have
Speaker 13: to say, not because I'm a part of this coalition,
Speaker 13: even though I am, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 13: But you are going to inevitably have to say this
Speaker 13: is a ridiculous conversation that we're having, because the real
Speaker 13: conversation that Republicans don't want to have is the cost
Speaker 13: of living crisis.
Speaker 2: That requires you, at.
Speaker 13: Some point to basically take the l a little bit okay,
Speaker 13: and maybe be a little bit more honest about how
Speaker 13: I'm not this dangerous, toxic radical force. I'm not expecting
Speaker 13: you to defend clips out of context or anything like that.
Speaker 13: I'm not even expecting you to defend some of these
Speaker 13: statements at all.
Speaker 2: I think you should probably attack the form.
Speaker 13: You should attack the form, you should attack the function,
Speaker 13: You should probably attack the.
Speaker 2: Very reason as to why Republicans have made this.
Speaker 1: All right, So, in fact, Hassan Piker is a dangerous,
Speaker 1: toxic radical force. He reflects. He did not make the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party. He reflects the Democratic Party of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: And at every level, state reps, state senator, your own congressperson,
Speaker 1: your governor's race, your Senate races. You have to vote
Speaker 1: Republican in twenty twenty six, and you have to get
Speaker 1: involved and repudiate the hard left turn that the Democrats
Speaker 1: have taken and are taking over the cliff because we
Speaker 1: need two functioning parties in the United States. We need
Speaker 1: a Democratic Party that argues for slightly higher marginal tax
Speaker 1: rates for tinkering with that or changing this. We do
Speaker 1: not need a crazy left wing group led by a
Speaker 1: San Piker. Abdul l sied Peggy Flanagan Rocanna in his
Speaker 1: current iteration, Adam Schiff, who else did I bring up
Speaker 1: in this, Kamala Harris? We don't need that we need
Speaker 1: a Democratic party of Scoop Jackson and Sam Nun and
Speaker 1: John Glenn and people were normis all right, normal people,
Speaker 1: That's what we need. Stay tuned, Ninete, Welcome back in America.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams is the President Chief Economists of our friends
Speaker 1: at American Legislative Exchange Council. We got a new backdrop.
Speaker 1: What's that new backdrop, Jonathan?
Speaker 14: Well, hey, Hu, coming to you from the beautiful campus
Speaker 14: of Northwood University here in Midland, Michigan and my alma mater.
Speaker 14: We're here for a group of state legislators, one of
Speaker 14: our ALEC academies from the Great Lakes State. So we
Speaker 14: even invited the Buckeye legislators to come up and join
Speaker 14: us here here. I know you'll be happy to hear that.
Speaker 1: I want to know why I wasn't invited. You know,
Speaker 1: I love ALEC Evans and I love rich states, poor states,
Speaker 1: and if I was there, I would make sure everyone
Speaker 1: knows that of the Midwestern states, I believe Ohio is
Speaker 1: highest ranked. Am I correct?
Speaker 14: Well, almost, Indiana's got you beat.
Speaker 15: You know, there are top ten.
Speaker 14: Ohio's making up for some lost time there, but Indiana
Speaker 14: has been a pay center for a long time here
Speaker 14: in the Midwest.
Speaker 15: But here's this you.
Speaker 14: If you come join us next year, I'll put the
Speaker 14: Ohio flag behind me alongside the Michigan flag.
Speaker 15: How's that?
Speaker 1: Okay? Well, we got to talk. I don't this might
Speaker 1: be the only thing we covered today, Jonathan, and I
Speaker 1: want to know if there's actually anywhere at the Aleck
Speaker 1: website where they can find out what's going on the
Speaker 1: Midwest because this is the renaissance of America. I really no,
Speaker 1: Michigan's falling behind and Illinois needs to catch up. But
Speaker 1: water and power means AI and anderroll and volunteer and
Speaker 1: everything like that. If the Midwestern legislators get it right,
Speaker 1: that it'll be the new boom for the Midwest.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it absolutely will.
Speaker 14: And you know, one of the new pieces of model policy,
Speaker 14: as you know, that came out of Orlando from our
Speaker 14: alic annual meeting with eighteen hundred of our closest conservative friends.
Speaker 14: And we're so glad to have you join us there.
Speaker 14: That was one of those things that came out of
Speaker 14: it was our model statement of principles on what do
Speaker 14: we do with the discussion around data centers, what do
Speaker 14: we do around energy policy, that's smart. What do we
Speaker 14: do around the water usage and zoning and making sure
Speaker 14: that states and cities are open for a development and
Speaker 14: making sure that the United States stays a leader when
Speaker 14: it comes to this race with China on AI and
Speaker 14: data centers fueling that boom.
Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan, I think I want to remember the name,
Speaker 1: the name correctly, State Center Court from Texas, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite guests.
Speaker 15: That's right, he told great great man.
Speaker 1: Great man. He told me that Texas already has three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty data centers, one of which will more
Speaker 1: than double the annual government revenue from property tax without
Speaker 1: any impact on services. I don't know why people aren't
Speaker 1: rushing out to line up for these things.
Speaker 14: Well, I don't think they think about that element of it, Hugh.
Speaker 14: But I mean telling those stories is really important to
Speaker 14: know that there's some huge benefits for taxpayers out there
Speaker 14: when this is done in a smart way, in a
Speaker 14: responsible way, you know, even just looking at back in
Speaker 14: northern Virginia that you know, well, I mean, I'm in
Speaker 14: Fairfax County, Laddin County right next door. Is that really
Speaker 14: the heart and soul of where the data center boom
Speaker 14: has happened? In the United States, as you know, and
Speaker 14: even as they've had liberal governance in Lodden County for
Speaker 14: a number of years now, they've actually seen property taxes
Speaker 14: remain flat or even decline in some cases, where Fairfax County,
Speaker 14: with little to no data centers, has been property taxes
Speaker 14: going through the roof. So just a bilateral comparison of
Speaker 14: two counties right next door to each other in northern Virginia,
Speaker 14: both run by liberals, and you see a huge difference.
Speaker 14: And I think it can be hugely attributed to this
Speaker 14: development of data centers in Latin County that are taking
Speaker 14: that property tax burden and taking it off of residential
Speaker 14: and other commercial property taxpayers.
Speaker 15: And that's something that just doesn't get told nearly enough.
Speaker 1: That's why ALECK exists. Why if you're a state legislator
Speaker 1: or adjacent to one, you want to belong to the
Speaker 1: American Legislative Exchange Council, go to ALEC dot org. Slash
Speaker 1: U John, I want to do cover Michigan's problem right now.
Speaker 1: They have a choice. They can go the Indiana Ohiopath
Speaker 1: or then go the Illinois Path. And that way, the
Speaker 1: Illinois Path lies doom. They've got lsiad versus Rogers on
Speaker 1: the ballot and I know you're nonpartisans, so you're not
Speaker 1: going to tell you. And they got John James. I
Speaker 1: don't know who's running for governor on the Democratic side,
Speaker 1: but John James, a good, serious free market guy. Michigan
Speaker 1: can has a choice in front of it right now.
Speaker 1: Do you think most Michiganders are aware of that choice?
Speaker 14: I think so, and I think it's almost impossible to
Speaker 14: ignore this dark contrast. I mean, this is what a
Speaker 14: great book by the awesome Thomas soul a Conflict of Visions, right,
Speaker 14: I mean, this is really a time for choosing between Yeah,
Speaker 14: do you want to become Illinois, which is California of
Speaker 14: the Midwest without the good weather, or do you want
Speaker 14: to be more prosperous like Indiana and Ohio is increasingly
Speaker 14: becoming with in migration and businesses and job creation all
Speaker 14: the things that go with that. I think Wisconsin also
Speaker 14: falls in Minnesota to some degree in those categories. Is
Speaker 14: what do these states want to be when they decide
Speaker 14: which path they follow? In Michigan, as we know, has
Speaker 14: kind of gone back and forth under Rick Snyder and
Speaker 14: right to work and so many great things were happening
Speaker 14: in last decade, and then because of the progressive trifecta
Speaker 14: there they repealed right to work and started to.
Speaker 15: Go the way of Illinois again.
Speaker 14: But I mean, it's almost impossible if you're an objective
Speaker 14: observer and have studied the Midwest and the economies and
Speaker 14: what Illinois used to be versus what it is today,
Speaker 14: and what Chicago used to be, what it is today
Speaker 14: versus where Indiana and Ohio had been in the progress
Speaker 14: that they've made.
Speaker 15: Did the only clear choice to.
Speaker 14: Be more like Indiana and more like Ohio and less
Speaker 14: like Illinois. When it comes to Snake's like, did you
Speaker 14: get into the scouncil?
Speaker 1: A great By the way, second plog A Time for
Speaker 1: Choosing is a second grade book for Samon Thomas Soul.
Speaker 1: Everyone go get the third grade book. Rich Statesportestates dot
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Speaker 1: or poverty. Pick prosperity. Jonathan Williams, All you good to
Speaker 1: see my friend Alex dot org slash Hue, thank you,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to America. I'm Hugh Cwitt, always keeping an
Speaker 1: eye on our shipbuilding in the United States. After talking
Speaker 1: to Admiral Mark Montgomery yesterday he pointed out that if
Speaker 1: we want to actually maintain operations that will detery Iran,
Speaker 1: we need destroyers. Destroyers are the workhorse of the American fleet.
Speaker 1: And I'm joined now by United States Senator Susan Collins,
Speaker 1: chairwoman of the Appropriations Committee, also a member of the
Speaker 1: Senate Intelligence Committee, and holder of the consecutive role call
Speaker 1: vote record of the United States Senate well over ten
Speaker 1: thousand now. Senator Collins, welcome back.
Speaker 16: How are you just find great to talk with you?
Speaker 1: Que? So I was driving my grandchildren a few weekends
Speaker 1: ago to the Main Botanic Garden to see the trolls,
Speaker 1: which is an annual kind of excursion for us, and
Speaker 1: we went over to the Kennebeck River and there was one
Speaker 1: destroyer being worked on, and I thought, I've got to
Speaker 1: ask Senator Collins, because I talked to Admiral Montgomery often,
Speaker 1: we need destroyers. Are we making enough of them?
Speaker 16: We're not making enough of them. There are more than
Speaker 16: there is, more than one being a work done in
Speaker 16: the yards right now. But we've got to keep it flowing.
Speaker 16: As you were saying, they truly are the workhorse of
Speaker 16: the fleet, and They're essential to our national security. We've
Speaker 16: seen that in the Middle East. What's ay that's built
Speaker 16: destroyer that shot down all of those who the missiles
Speaker 16: that were being fired at commercial ships that are are
Speaker 16: troops and at Israel.
Speaker 1: So, Senator, what Admiral Montgomery told me just yesterday is
Speaker 1: at a minimum, we've got sixteen there and we really
Speaker 1: need twenty two to twenty four, but we're stretched thin.
Speaker 1: Are your Democratic colleague aware destroyers really do everything and
Speaker 1: the carriers can't go anywhere without the destroyers. Are they
Speaker 1: with you on this?
Speaker 16: I think they'll be support for adding a second destroyer
Speaker 16: to the President's budget. It's really important that.
Speaker 17: We do so.
Speaker 16: As you say, those giant aircraft carriers need the destroyers
Speaker 16: to protect them, and without the destroyers you couldn't send
Speaker 16: the air craft carriers out to do their mission. So
Speaker 16: they are incredibly important.
Speaker 1: So is Bath handling the craftsman shortage as well as
Speaker 1: they can. I know there's a housing issue in Bath
Speaker 1: and the same housing issue in Portsmouth with the submarine workforce.
Speaker 1: What are they doing? Is the Congress helping house and
Speaker 1: attract skilled workers to the people who build the ships?
Speaker 16: Well pleased should say that I've been able to secure
Speaker 16: funding for two workforce housing projects right in Bath, and
Speaker 16: these are really important. The majority of the workers at
Speaker 16: that time works do not live in Bath or a
Speaker 16: joining communities. They commute from the Lewiston area. In the
Speaker 16: case of the Portsmouth Naples Shipyard and Kiddery, Maine, they
Speaker 16: commute from the Samford main That's a long commute. So
Speaker 16: I've encouraged both shipyards to establish shuttles, of which would
Speaker 16: help with the parking. But we're also working on a
Speaker 16: parking garage at Bath iron Works, and on a daycare
Speaker 16: center and housing right in downtown Bath. That would make
Speaker 16: a huge difference, and it will help improve our retention
Speaker 16: and recruitment numbers, which are going up. They're much better
Speaker 16: than they were.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a model for every high cost
Speaker 1: housing defense industry critical segment because if you can't get
Speaker 1: a worker, they make good money. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: be a welder on a ship and make six figures
Speaker 1: after a couple of years, but you still got to
Speaker 1: buy a house. Is this going to be a model
Speaker 1: everywhere in the country.
Speaker 16: I think it could well be. You're right, it doesn't
Speaker 16: matter how good you're quit Mint is or your materials are.
Speaker 16: If you don't have the skills workforces, you can't build
Speaker 16: these amazing ships, and they are amazing. They're technically advanced
Speaker 16: and they take very skilled workers. The other part of
Speaker 16: this element is helping our community colleges train more welders, electricians, plumbers,
Speaker 16: steel cutters, et cetera. And I have worked with that
Speaker 16: Armworks and with Supports and Staples Shipyards, with the pre
Speaker 16: winning plant in North Berwick, Maine that makes parts for
Speaker 16: the F thirty five, on making sure that our community
Speaker 16: colleges have the slots to train these individuals. And it's
Speaker 16: interesting you mentioned welders because BIW is known, renowned for
Speaker 16: the quality of its really important.
Speaker 1: So Senat, I want to close. I introduced you before
Speaker 1: you got on the line as being the most powerful
Speaker 1: woman in Congress because of your position a chair of
Speaker 1: the Appropriations Committee. I know Democrats have sort of forced
Speaker 1: us into a cr Are you optimistic after the electioneering
Speaker 1: is done about getting a real budget done?
Speaker 16: I am, and that really is critical. But I was
Speaker 16: hardened that the stopcap punding measure was approved in the
Speaker 16: wee hours of the morning on Saturday by a vote
Speaker 16: of ninety to six. So that was a good sign
Speaker 16: because it means that we avoid a government shutdown and
Speaker 16: have untilled December eleventh, post election to get the appropriation
Speaker 16: stills passed. That is absolutely critical that we do that.
Speaker 1: And the last question, it's not political, but it does
Speaker 1: call into question what's going on in the in the
Speaker 1: Senate and the House, Democrats have gone pretty far to
Speaker 1: the left the cycle, and I remember John Glenn and
Speaker 1: Sam Nunn and even Scoop Jackson. Are there any of
Speaker 1: them left?
Speaker 16: Unfortunately, it seems that there are fewer and fuer And
Speaker 16: one of the people with whom I work most closely
Speaker 16: on the Democratic side, Jeans Seeing of New Hampshire, is retiring.
Speaker 16: So that's disappointing. But there are some that we can
Speaker 16: still work with. But I'll tell you what, we don't
Speaker 16: want to have our government shutdowns, and that's what the Democrats,
Speaker 16: by failing to cooperate, produced left in the last cycle.
Speaker 16: And those are really damaging to our military families that
Speaker 16: rely on federal programs, and they're unfared of federal workers,
Speaker 16: some of whom, like our TSA agents, were forced to
Speaker 16: world without PEG.
Speaker 1: Senator Carlins always good to Chuck catch up with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for I didn't know that the cr had
Speaker 1: passed on Saturday night, so I'm glad to learn that
Speaker 1: as well. Keep coming back, Senator Collins. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I'll look for that next one. It's probably under the
Speaker 1: under the tarp there on the tender buck. I only
Speaker 1: saw one. Thank you so much. I'll be right back
Speaker 1: in America. Stay j Welcome back America. I'm hw Hewitt
Speaker 1: with Vic madd as co host of the Getting Hammered
Speaker 1: podcast and with the Washington Free Beacon and Margaret Romer fan. Uh, Vic,
Speaker 1: when did you be a Megan Roamer? Megan Romer fan,
Speaker 1: when did you become uh, you know, a Megan Roamer?
Speaker 18: Uh?
Speaker 1: A Fishonado.
Speaker 19: Well, let's see, I mean she had her interview on
Speaker 19: Fox News, uh where I think it was Shannon Breem
Speaker 19: just had a list of insane ds A talking points
Speaker 19: and positions, uh, and she said yes to all of them,
Speaker 19: abolishing you know, Ice and I think even possibly abolishing
Speaker 19: the Senate. I can't remember that. That and either getting
Speaker 19: rid of the Supreme Court, and she just leaned all in.
Speaker 19: And then of course she had her interview more recently
Speaker 19: with David Remnick of The New Yorker. And you know,
Speaker 19: again Remnick is no right winger, but boy did she
Speaker 19: make him seem like he was totally red pilled on
Speaker 19: that he seemed baffled. He tried not to sort of
Speaker 19: laugh in her face, although there were times he was
Speaker 19: just like, I don't I'm sorry, I don't understand.
Speaker 1: And that's the best you can do.
Speaker 19: When you start asking questions and it's clear that the
Speaker 19: person you're asking questions too, has no idea what to say.
Speaker 19: And he's talking about, for example, the Camp David Accords,
Speaker 19: and she's not familiar with the fact that, you know,
Speaker 19: the Palestinians were offered Jerusalem. And later he's asking about,
Speaker 19: really diplomats can go to Ukraine and suddenly problems solved,
Speaker 19: and they haven't done that yet, and she's just nodding along.
Speaker 19: And then, of course the worst thing is her agreement
Speaker 19: to go, which she said that she would have joined.
Speaker 19: Daria Eliza Avalle Chevalier, who will become a congresswoman after
Speaker 19: the fall election, at the October eighth, twenty twenty three rally,
Speaker 19: less than twenty four hours after the worst attack on
Speaker 19: Jews in the Holocaust, and she says, yeah, I'd probably
Speaker 19: be there too. This is not to say she says
Speaker 19: that she does. You know, she doesn't condone the violence,
Speaker 19: and she doesn't. She's not saying that she supports that,
Speaker 19: but she understands why they would do it, and she'd
Speaker 19: be there to support them.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, Vic, that was our entry level drug for
Speaker 1: DSA people, and your first cut at the easiest target.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to burn your eyes out and show
Speaker 1: you and add that abdu El Sayed cut before the election,
Speaker 1: that is only recently surfaced. And I want to know
Speaker 1: if you even understand what it's trying to do. Cut
Speaker 1: number one.
Speaker 18: Here's the mail and never fails and makes me want
Speaker 18: o wag misail when it comes.
Speaker 20: I wanna well, thanks mailbox.
Speaker 21: We just got a letter. We just got a letter.
Speaker 21: We just got a letter. I wonder who it's from.
Speaker 22: It looks like my ballot brought to me by my
Speaker 22: Secretary of State, and with it I can.
Speaker 20: Participate in democracy.
Speaker 22: The first day that I can turn this in is
Speaker 22: June twenty fifth, but it has to be postmarked by
Speaker 22: July twenty first, or I can drop it off up
Speaker 22: until election day, which is August fourth.
Speaker 20: Thanks Secretary of State. Thanks mailbox Folk's good, dude, we
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Speaker 1: So, Vic, does that ring any bells with you?
Speaker 15: Sadly?
Speaker 8: It does?
Speaker 1: I mean my.
Speaker 19: Dad, yes, yes, and you know he and my son
Speaker 19: when he was you know, he's now going off the college,
Speaker 19: and so abdul l say Ed has now ruined what
Speaker 19: was a happy memory for me of Blues Clues. My
Speaker 19: son even had what we call this handy dandy notebook,
Speaker 19: so I get the reference. And I do want to say,
Speaker 19: for the record, the first host of Blues Clues was
Speaker 19: better than the second host, Joe.
Speaker 8: But that aside, this is really weird and.
Speaker 19: I don't know how that is going to play in Michigan,
Speaker 19: especially now that you mentioned Hugh it's been resurfaced. It's
Speaker 19: just weird and slightly creepy. And I get it. You
Speaker 19: know you can vote by mail. In fact, you can
Speaker 19: vote weeks and weeks earlier before you find out your
Speaker 19: candidate is insane and it's too late to change it.
Speaker 19: So I guess that's the cases presented.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was aiming at your son's demo
Speaker 1: who watched a lot of Blue because it's been off
Speaker 1: the air for ten years? Do you think he was
Speaker 1: aiming at young people that he thinks are stupid.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a nostalgic element to it,
Speaker 19: and it's something that we as adults are that's not
Speaker 19: going to resonate with us, and it's not going to
Speaker 19: resonate with you know, obviously kids who are not eligible
Speaker 19: to vote, but certainly if you're eighteen, you're going to say, oh,
Speaker 19: I remember that, and this guy is so funny and
Speaker 19: that's cool, and I guess I'll vote for Lsied. Maybe
Speaker 19: maybe that's what he's going for there, but again, that's
Speaker 19: really weird and he just ruined a wonderful memory for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm going to go full the essay on you.
Speaker 1: The brand new kingmaker of the Democratic Party, Hassan Piker
Speaker 1: is feeling put upon cut number fifteen.
Speaker 13: I know we don't always see eye TOI on a
Speaker 13: lot of stuff, but you have to literally at some point.
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to do this defend me,
Speaker 2: and not because.
Speaker 13: Not because you love what I have to say, not
Speaker 13: because I'm a part of this coalition, even though I am,
Speaker 13: whether you like it or not, but you are are
Speaker 13: going to inevitably have to say, this is a ridiculous
Speaker 13: conversation that we're having, because the real conversation that Republicans
Speaker 13: don't want to have is the cost of living crisis.
Speaker 13: That requires you at some point to basically take the
Speaker 13: l a little bit okay, and maybe be a little
Speaker 13: bit more honest about how I'm not this dangerous, toxic
Speaker 13: radical force. I'm not expecting you to defend clips out
Speaker 13: of context or anything like that. I'm not even expecting
Speaker 13: you to defend some of these statements at all. I
Speaker 13: think you should probably attack the form. You should attack
Speaker 13: the form, You should attack the function. You should probably
Speaker 13: attack the very reason as to why Republicans have made
Speaker 13: this a or.
Speaker 1: Chick matters attacking form and function. As krit talk, what
Speaker 1: do you think he's doing there?
Speaker 19: I think that Hassan Piker is fighting himself in a
Speaker 19: position reminiscent of Jeremiah Wright, you know. I mean, it's
Speaker 19: the moment when Obama hung him out to dry, even
Speaker 19: though he very much looked up to him, because you know,
Speaker 19: they were putting that, you know, they were shining a
Speaker 19: spotlight on that and was making him look kind of radical.
Speaker 19: And of course in many ways Obama was and Hassan
Speaker 19: Piker is not going.
Speaker 8: To be a team player.
Speaker 19: He has millions of followers, as you know, a lot
Speaker 19: of acolytes and.
Speaker 1: People who actually frankly agree with all of.
Speaker 19: His detestable positions, whether it be nine to eleven or
Speaker 19: the raping of capitalists, or not caring what happened on
Speaker 19: October seven, not caring what happened to women at the
Speaker 19: concert in October seven.
Speaker 20: I mean, it's sick.
Speaker 19: And so he tries to preface it by saying, look,
Speaker 19: I'm not saying that you should also say that, you know,
Speaker 19: America had it coming on nine to eleven, but you know,
Speaker 19: do me a solid here and at least, you know,
Speaker 19: come to a partial defense of me. And I don't
Speaker 19: know what the candidates are going to do. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 19: in LSI Ed's case, he may in fact still stick
Speaker 19: with Hassan Piker.
Speaker 1: He went to that pool party on election. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's that confident about it.
Speaker 19: But it's going to put all the other Democratic candidates
Speaker 19: in a very uncomfortable position because now that we're heading
Speaker 19: into general elections of the midterms, their Republican opponents are
Speaker 19: going to say, do you stand with Hassan Piker on
Speaker 19: any number of detestable positions, and they're going to have
Speaker 19: to either you know, find some wiggle room there or
Speaker 19: you know, go to talking points to say, well, the
Speaker 19: real issue is this in Trump or they're going to
Speaker 19: have to just say yeah, I'm cool with it. And
Speaker 19: so the civil war on the Democratic side continues here.
Speaker 1: And I hope it continues for ano their eighty two days.
Speaker 1: Vic maddis co host of the Getting Hammered podcast Culture
Speaker 1: of Art Affairs, Something editor at the Weekend pre Beacons.
Speaker 1: Follow him on exit victory, No matdis and thank you,
Speaker 1: vic in An. I ruined blues Clues for you. Stay tuned, America,
Speaker 1: Welcome back, America. I'm Popick. Josh Crosshauwer is my guest
Speaker 1: editor in chief of Jewish Insider. Josh. I'm gonna burn
Speaker 1: your eyes out. I'm going to play for you a
Speaker 1: new abdua LSA ED video that has resurfaced Cut number one.
Speaker 18: Here's the mail and never fails and makes me want
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Speaker 20: Thanks mailbox.
Speaker 21: We just got a letter. We just got a letter.
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Speaker 20: I wonder who it's from.
Speaker 22: It looks like my ballot brought to me by my
Speaker 22: Secretary of State, and with it I can.
Speaker 20: Participate in democracy. The first day that I can turn
Speaker 20: this in is June twenty fifth.
Speaker 22: It has to be postmarked by Lie twenty first, or
Speaker 22: I can drop it off up until election day, which
Speaker 22: is August fourth.
Speaker 20: Thanks Secretary of State. Thanks mailbox. Vote's good. We can't do.
Speaker 1: So, Josh crash Ower your reaction.
Speaker 23: So I saw this for the first time today, and
Speaker 23: at first I assumed it was AI generated and then
Speaker 23: I actually watched the content. Clearly this was and this
Speaker 23: is about a month old, a little over a month old,
Speaker 23: I think, trying to get people to early vote in
Speaker 23: the primary. Yeah, I mean this is this is just
Speaker 23: underscores how the messaging for the base, and you know,
Speaker 23: I never seen anything quite like it. I guess he
Speaker 23: was trying to, you know, mimic Blues Clues or some
Speaker 23: kids show. But it's a bizarre, wacky way of doing that,
Speaker 23: and that kind of messaging is just going to be
Speaker 23: just absolutely weird if you tried to do that in
Speaker 23: the general election.
Speaker 1: So it's not how this guy in a football high
Speaker 1: school environment in Michigan, which is almost as crazy as Ohio, Texas,
Speaker 1: and Florida after he said that there's toxic masculinity in football.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's funny.
Speaker 23: I think Mike Rodgers has, you know, said he's going
Speaker 23: after faith football the flag.
Speaker 8: That's sort of the line that Rogers has used against
Speaker 8: El sa Ed, and I think didn't.
Speaker 23: It's hard to follow all the back and forth on
Speaker 23: social media, but I think else I had challenged Mike
Speaker 23: Rogers to a one on one football game, which is
Speaker 23: a little I thought else I had played football in
Speaker 23: high school, but apparently not, because like the notion of
Speaker 23: a one on one football game makes no sense and
Speaker 23: it really makes him look out of touch.
Speaker 1: So look, I I.
Speaker 23: The sports metaphor I use the other day was Republicans
Speaker 23: think this guy has a short temper.
Speaker 15: El si Ed.
Speaker 23: He gets makes mistakes, makes political mistakes when he gets
Speaker 23: under attack, and Republicans are blitzing the quarterback. They're they're
Speaker 23: making him throw interceptions when he's under pressure, and I've
Speaker 23: seen quite a few since he won the nomination last Tuesday,
Speaker 23: and they look like they're not handling the pressure very well,
Speaker 23: and they're not pivoting very.
Speaker 8: Well to running towards the general election.
Speaker 23: Where there are a lot of independents, a lot of
Speaker 23: moderate Democrats who are very wary of else I had,
Speaker 23: and he's not really doing what's necessary to reach out
Speaker 23: to those skeptics.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to pivot when you put on
Speaker 1: a sun Piker like a Spider Man suit. Here is
Speaker 1: a sun Piker from either yesterday or the day before,
Speaker 1: streaming Forever cut number fifteen.
Speaker 13: I know we don't always see Eyei on a lot
Speaker 13: of stuff, but you have to literally at some point.
Speaker 13: I know you don't want to do this, defend me,
Speaker 13: and not because not because you love what I have
Speaker 13: to say, not because I'm a part of this coalition,
Speaker 13: even though I am, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 13: But you are going to inevitably have to say this
Speaker 13: is a ridiculous conversation that we're having, because the real
Speaker 13: conversation that Republicans don't want to have is the cost
Speaker 13: of living crisis. That requires you, at some point to
Speaker 13: basically take the l a little bit okay, and maybe
Speaker 13: be a little bit more honest about how I'm not
Speaker 13: this dangerous, toxic radical force. I'm not expecting you to
Speaker 13: defend clips out of context or anything like that. I'm
Speaker 13: not even expecting you to defend some of these statements
Speaker 13: at all. I think you should probably attack the form.
Speaker 13: You should attack the form, you should attack the function,
Speaker 13: You should probably attack the very reason as to why
Speaker 13: Republicans have made this a or are trying to make
Speaker 13: this a salient line of attack instead of right.
Speaker 1: Josh, what's that mean? How do you interpret Hassan Piker's
Speaker 1: appeal for help?
Speaker 23: Look, this is not a part. This guy's a DSA guy.
Speaker 23: He's not a Democratic Party guy. So he's going to
Speaker 23: be the worst headache that ELSI ed and the Democratic
Speaker 23: Party is going to be dealing with throughout the general
Speaker 23: election campaign. And look, I find it remarkable because there
Speaker 23: were a lot of serious Democratic thinkers and strategists like
Speaker 23: Third Way, the centrist Democratic group that wrote it not
Speaker 23: Beed during the primary talking about how dangerous, how damaging
Speaker 23: and an extremist this guy Hassan Piker is, and a
Speaker 23: lot of supposedly smart people were like, Haha, he didn't
Speaker 23: affect his ability to win the nomination or to lead
Speaker 23: Hailey Stevens in the primary, So this stuff doesn't matter.
Speaker 23: What they don't realize is primary politics and how far
Speaker 23: the Democratic base has gone outside the mainstream, is not
Speaker 23: the equivalent of what you need to win and the
Speaker 23: votes you need to win and the people you need
Speaker 23: to win in a general election.
Speaker 8: And this guy has become toxic.
Speaker 23: There were Mallory McMorrow, one of the primary challengers, a
Speaker 23: lot of Michigan Democrats, warned that this is a toxic,
Speaker 23: anti Semitic, anti American figure, and now they don't know
Speaker 23: what you know.
Speaker 8: Oultside is not really distant himself from him.
Speaker 23: I don't think he can, given that he used him
Speaker 23: as a surrogate in the final days of the campaign.
Speaker 23: But this is a guy who is going to be
Speaker 23: the gift that keeps on giving for the Republicans.
Speaker 8: They don't have to do any messaging. Republicans just let
Speaker 8: this guy talk.
Speaker 23: They're going to be focusing on the economy, They're going
Speaker 23: to be focusing on bread and butter issues, and they're
Speaker 23: gonna let Piker's own words really hurt his own candidate,
Speaker 23: his favorite candidate.
Speaker 1: Pretty second, Josh played over to Troy Jackson in Maine
Speaker 1: and Roy Cooper in North Carolina and shared Brown and
Speaker 1: Michigan and wherever they're trying to win, where they're chitting
Speaker 1: in Alaska. Does it bleed to every Democrat?
Speaker 23: We don't know yet, but what I will say is
Speaker 23: that smart Democrats would have understood the long term implications
Speaker 23: of being associated with someone like Hassan Piker. And the
Speaker 23: battlegrounds for the most part are in red states Texas, Ohio, Iowa.
Speaker 8: Right, Alaska.
Speaker 23: If you think Piker's not going to sell in Michigan,
Speaker 23: he's certainly not going to sell in those Trump states.
Speaker 23: So Democrats realize that if you've kind of isolate the
Speaker 23: guy and take the short term hit, because you're going.
Speaker 8: To save the red state seats where this could become
Speaker 8: an issue.
Speaker 23: We don't know how much he's gonna transcend Michigan and
Speaker 23: affect democratics. So the socialist rise is going to affect
Speaker 23: candidates and rhetor states. But boy, if I'm Chuck Schumer,
Speaker 23: that's a risk I wouldn't want to take. And the
Speaker 23: fact that Democratic leaders didn't speak up and isolate this
Speaker 23: guy is going to cause a much more problem.
Speaker 1: And if I'm the NRCC, I'm running l say ed
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. I'm joined by Bethany Mandel. She is the
Speaker 1: mom substact dot com columns for pretty much everyone that
Speaker 1: writes columns in America as well. Bethanye had a bunch
Speaker 1: of different topics for you. I want to start with
Speaker 1: just Free Word Association WNBA.
Speaker 11: What is his name? And as freedom?
Speaker 1: Oh? You know it's Freedom?
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, I can't wait for the newest WNBA star.
Speaker 1: Well, what about the league's ongoing racial tension? Has that
Speaker 1: broken through into year world? Yet? Not? Really?
Speaker 10: I know that Sophia Cunningham is cute and blonde, and
Speaker 10: she points, I don't know if that's involved.
Speaker 11: I don't pay attention to that.
Speaker 1: Okay, if it doesn't, if you have not made it
Speaker 1: through to your media world yet, it's still a bubble
Speaker 1: story on my algorithm because I like sports and they
Speaker 1: think that the WNBA is something I like that haven't
Speaker 1: figured it out yet, but they sent it to me too.
Speaker 1: Number two John Potter Ortz yesterday guest of mine. I
Speaker 1: had him on. I asked him, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about walking around on the Upper West Side? He said,
Speaker 1: I don't feel particularly endangered, but my son was a
Speaker 1: keep and yeah, someone got screwdriver here last week. What
Speaker 1: do you think about Jews living in.
Speaker 10: New York City's funny that you ask. I will be
Speaker 10: there tomorrow. And this was actually a question of mine
Speaker 10: because my son that I'm bringing with me is five
Speaker 10: and he likes to wear his iyamicas sometimes. And I
Speaker 10: was like, I think it's probably fine, but it did
Speaker 10: give me pause.
Speaker 1: Okay, So where will you be in New York City? Brooklyn?
Speaker 1: Are you going to the city downtown Manhattan?
Speaker 11: Are you planning on hanging out with us?
Speaker 1: We're going to go, but my daughter and granddaughter again,
Speaker 1: they went everywhere, So I'm just wondering.
Speaker 11: I know, I.
Speaker 10: Watched it on Instagram and I mess I wanted to
Speaker 10: message her and ask her for recommendations. But we're going
Speaker 10: to the met and we're going to Times Square, so
Speaker 10: like very tourist central.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think Terra Central is where the nuts
Speaker 1: go to attack Jews, So I think you're safe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that brings me up to number three. Given that John
Speaker 1: as to worry, and you have to think about it.
Speaker 1: What are the numbers on American Jews leaving for Israel
Speaker 1: because they simply they're safer in Israel than they are
Speaker 1: in the United States.
Speaker 11: So I don't know if they're terribly significant.
Speaker 10: So there's an organization called Nefes Benefesh and they help
Speaker 10: mostly Americans, but honestly, anyone make the journey from their
Speaker 10: country of origin to Israel, and they just hit their
Speaker 10: one hundred one hundred thousandth individual who has moved to
Speaker 10: Israel from abroad, So I think, you know, the numbers
Speaker 10: are there. I also think that there's significant numbers of
Speaker 10: people who do the other way, that they had moved
Speaker 10: to Israel and decided to move back to America and so,
Speaker 10: I mean, anecdotally, I can tell you we've had five
Speaker 10: or six families that we were friends with move in
Speaker 10: the last year and a half. So it does feel
Speaker 10: significant in my little bubble. But I don't know if
Speaker 10: that's significant, like extrapolated into actual population numbers.
Speaker 1: Okay, now driving down, If you had your rank and
Speaker 1: order of physical safety and security, four places, Cleveland, Maryland suburbs,
Speaker 1: New York City, tel Aviv, which is the safest.
Speaker 11: I would say tel Aviv probably, I mean when.
Speaker 1: You Cleveland, really yeah, not Nothing bad happens in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: not not in that parts of Cleveland.
Speaker 11: We're bad things happened in tel Aviv too.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true, except missiles occasionally fall from this guy
Speaker 1: if the Iranians are having a bad week. But that's
Speaker 1: about it, right, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 11: So, I don't know.
Speaker 10: My tel Aviv friends kind of treat them as a
Speaker 10: mostly as a nuance, as a nuisance, but you know,
Speaker 10: when they're actual Iranian ones, those kind of get a
Speaker 10: little scarier. But as far as safety goes, I don't know.
Speaker 10: I mean maybe I just I don't know if I've
Speaker 10: ever really been to Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Okay, trust me on this one. Or Cincinnatire Columbus. The
Speaker 1: Jewish communities in the Ohio diaspora are just fine, and
Speaker 1: they're big. If you remember the rally for Israel on
Speaker 1: the mall, I think it was mostly buck eyes, I
Speaker 1: really do. I think it was just every every Jew
Speaker 1: in Ohio came to DC for the day because they
Speaker 1: could make it in six hours. So, Bethany, now I
Speaker 1: want to switch over to you just mentioned the word nuisance.
Speaker 1: Hassan Piker is more than a nuisance. I think he's
Speaker 1: a canary in the coal mine for the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: What do you think about it?
Speaker 11: I agree.
Speaker 10: I mean this is the DSA has really sort of
Speaker 10: taken over, and there's a lot of individuals. I wouldn't
Speaker 10: say a lot. There are some individuals on the left
Speaker 10: who are speaking up and saying I will not share
Speaker 10: a party if this is in the tent with me.
Speaker 10: There's Bill Maher, There's James Carville. But there's not enough
Speaker 10: of those people. And you know, every time a bad
Speaker 10: guy wins a primary, all those principals go out the
Speaker 10: window and they're you know, well, I don't know, but
Speaker 10: we have to stop the Republicans, and it gets so
Speaker 10: far is to you know, they have no limiting principles.
Speaker 10: So when it was Graham Platner in Maine and he
Speaker 10: had a Nazi tattoo on his chest, they were like, well,
Speaker 10: we have to stop Susan Collins that being a race
Speaker 10: willing to like throw your all your principles out the window,
Speaker 10: for it's.
Speaker 1: Really kind of creepy. What's happening to the Democrats? So
Speaker 1: their last question is does this become a national election
Speaker 1: as opposed to cherries of foreign in thirty five congressional
Speaker 1: seats and thirty three Senate seats and a handful of governs,
Speaker 1: does it become a national referendum on the fact that
Speaker 1: the Democrats lost their mind. I know that some people
Speaker 1: don't like Trump. I know that the Iran war alleged.
Speaker 1: I don't trust any polling anymore. I'm not trusting a
Speaker 1: new service that Salem runs calls eyes Over, which is
Speaker 1: a sampling of online data. Everyone posts their opinions on everything,
Speaker 1: so you can actually find out what people think a
Speaker 1: lot better using eyes only than you can doing democratic polling.
Speaker 1: But do you think they're up for a Nazi surprise
Speaker 1: that the country has noticed they become lunatics?
Speaker 10: I think that's what the Trump administration and Republicans are
Speaker 10: betting on, and they're throwing all of their weight behind
Speaker 10: making sure that Americans are aware of just how far
Speaker 10: Democrats have swung the I think the most effective campaign
Speaker 10: messaging that I've seen so far. You know, like it's August,
Speaker 10: so you know, we've still got a little ways to go.
Speaker 10: They're saying it's a choice between Republicans and socialism, and
Speaker 10: I think that that's powerful.
Speaker 11: I think also we need to.
Speaker 10: Remember, as the grown ups in the room, that socialism
Speaker 10: isn't the boogeyman that it used to be, you know,
Speaker 10: twenty thirty years ago. And we really have to explain
Speaker 10: to people like their idiots, socialism bad. This is why
Speaker 10: it doesn't just mean a bunch of free stuff, which
Speaker 10: is what a lot of young people want.
Speaker 11: You have to explain why it's bad.
Speaker 1: They were talking about it on commentary today and they're
Speaker 1: going around in circles about what it means. I think
Speaker 1: it should be described as transgressive. Progressive. Socialists are radical
Speaker 1: in every way you can imagine, and they're stupid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I really do believe they haven't read a book.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Hassan Piker's read a book.
Speaker 10: No, And I think to that point, the media appearances
Speaker 10: that I think have been the most powerful for Republicans
Speaker 10: have been by DSA members. When you there was one,
Speaker 10: I forget the media appearance, but a co chair for
Speaker 10: the DSA was asked, well, how much should we tax
Speaker 10: the millionaires?
Speaker 11: Like what are you proposing here?
Speaker 10: And she could not put anything related to policy or numbers,
Speaker 10: like there was just nothing there.
Speaker 11: It was just a slogan tax the rich, and yeah,
Speaker 11: that's it.
Speaker 1: Why was Seth Mandel putting an orange giraffe on your
Speaker 1: lawn today?
Speaker 10: Our neighbor, it was two of our children's birthday this summer,
Speaker 10: and she decided to give them without asking us, a giant,
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Speaker 11: And so we always joke someone, I'm now giving.
Speaker 2: That gift to everyone.
Speaker 25: I'm gonna give that gift to everyone because that was
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Speaker 1: was a hippie when we started.
Speaker 25: Jim Goodness, he's a that. He's a National Review Morning
Speaker 25: Joelt guy. He's a regular presence here who I can
Speaker 25: ask this question without embarrassment. Jim, have you followed the
Speaker 25: w NBA controversy.
Speaker 15: Just a little bit?
Speaker 9: And I would say the outcome, the end result of
Speaker 9: everything I hear about the NBA makes me think that
Speaker 9: I would hate it. And you know, back in the day,
Speaker 9: the college I went to had a good women's basketball
Speaker 9: team and had a good women's volleyball team. I am
Speaker 9: capable of getting into soccer when the World Cup comes along,
Speaker 9: So I am not inherently opposed to women's athletics or
Speaker 9: anything like that. I do think, by the way, every
Speaker 9: time somebody comes along and creates a new sports league.
Speaker 15: There's kind of an assumption that.
Speaker 9: There's just an endless amount of appetite and there's an
Speaker 9: endless amount of what I'm gonna call mental real estate
Speaker 9: or attention span for every new sport that comes along.
Speaker 9: I do salute ESPN for embracing the ocho and having youugh,
Speaker 9: have you noticed that they do like potato sack races
Speaker 9: and kickball and like every weird sport you could ever
Speaker 9: possibly amount.
Speaker 1: I can't profess Baseball tonight anymore. I don't watch it
Speaker 1: anymore because ESPN kept moving around Baseball tonight, so I'm
Speaker 1: done with it.
Speaker 9: But everything I hear about the WNBA suggests that everything
Speaker 9: is seen through the prism of race. Everything is seen
Speaker 9: through the prison. Like the idea of like, ah, we
Speaker 9: don't like this young new superstar who's stealing attention had
Speaker 9: In Clark and I remember what's the name of the
Speaker 9: one for the one out in La.
Speaker 1: Well, if Kaitlin Clark and Cunningham are both on the
Speaker 1: Indiana Fever.
Speaker 9: Okay, Angel Reese was the other one, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 9: you can have your Magic Johnson and your Larry Bird right.
Speaker 9: The NBA use these two guys, and this kind of
Speaker 9: clash of the Titans, who do you like more, who's
Speaker 9: the greatest one? And the La Lakers versus the Boston
Speaker 9: Celtics boomed in the nineteen eighties. I guess yes, throughout
Speaker 9: the nineteen eighties. Then Michael Jordan comes along, the only
Speaker 9: human being who I've seen for whom gravity was optional,
Speaker 9: and the NBA blows up into this giant global game.
Speaker 15: The WNBA seems.
Speaker 9: To have those options and has no interest doing so,
Speaker 9: and wants to basically step into every conceivable political controversy
Speaker 9: they can, basically saying to the casual Kaitlin Clark fans
Speaker 9: and everybody.
Speaker 15: Like, this is not for you. If this is interesting you,
Speaker 15: we did it by accident and we don't really want
Speaker 15: you to be into it. By the way, whatever you
Speaker 15: watch the play, those highlights, how many people do you
Speaker 15: see in the stands.
Speaker 1: Well, they don't blave you. They don't show you the
Speaker 1: full arena.
Speaker 15: Jim, No, they don't.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a reason. I'm just curious. Do you
Speaker 1: think it endures? I think Americans don't like racial conflict.
Speaker 1: I mean I think they really hate it generally, and
Speaker 1: that anything that is mired in racial conflict they turn
Speaker 1: their head away from because that was our dark and
Speaker 1: terrible past with slavery and then the Civil rights movement
Speaker 1: and Selma, and we don't want to go back there.
Speaker 1: And President Obama's biggest failing was not doing more. In fact,
Speaker 1: they made race relations in this country worse, and we
Speaker 1: don't want that. And so I think the WNBA is
Speaker 1: committing collective suicide.
Speaker 9: Agree they are like, look, they got their Michael Jordan,
Speaker 9: they got their phenomenally popular athlete, and they're doing.
Speaker 15: Everything they can to drive her out of the league.
Speaker 15: It seems when you.
Speaker 9: Talk about this with a typical left of center sports writer,
Speaker 9: they will cite Jackie Robinson. They will cite the fact
Speaker 9: that the Washington Redskins were the last team to integrate.
Speaker 9: They will talk about the Black Power salute at the
Speaker 9: Olympics back, you know, and they'll say, race and social
Speaker 9: issues and political issues have always been involved in.
Speaker 15: The sports world.
Speaker 9: Sure, but if you watch ESPN Classic, they're not showing you, uh,
Speaker 9: you know, stuff primarily about the political debates. They're primarily
Speaker 9: showing you back when the Cleveland Browns and New York
Speaker 9: Jets were good, which your only you know which generally
Speaker 9: is ancient history and time ago.
Speaker 1: Jacks the Browns in the same sentencement, the Jets your honors.
Speaker 1: Strike that from the record.
Speaker 15: Perhaps right, you guys have never won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 15: We have so correct that that isn't.
Speaker 1: You won the super Bowl before you were alive? I
Speaker 1: can remember that super Bowl a super Bowl.
Speaker 15: Either way.
Speaker 9: Being sports is the toy department of life as a
Speaker 9: sportswriter once. For really, it's where we escape from all
Speaker 9: these problems. But we're just supposed to have fun, root
Speaker 9: for our team, root against the other team, and just
Speaker 9: kind of, you know, enjoy ourselves.
Speaker 15: And when you drag this into.
Speaker 9: It, it becomes a pain in the neck and it
Speaker 9: becomes controversial. And are you you know, are you sending
Speaker 9: a like in the DC area? You know, like some
Speaker 9: people say it says something if you're still wearing Washington Redskins,
Speaker 9: you know, T shirt or something instead of Washington Commanders.
Speaker 15: Now it might just be it's an old.
Speaker 9: Shirt, but there are some people who are very you know,
Speaker 9: like they feel like they're making a statement by using somebody.
Speaker 1: Yea double I've got an Indians Ren Spooner shirt that
Speaker 1: cost too much to throw it away, so I still
Speaker 1: wear it, but it's not a statement. Now, Kate race
Speaker 1: in mind, because I'm coming back to talk about one
Speaker 1: of Jim's closest friends are Sun Piker. After the Break,
Speaker 1: don't go anywhere, America. I'm going you it that, Jim Garretty,
Speaker 1: stay with it, Welcome back America. Garretty Washington Post columnist,
Speaker 1: National Review columnist. He is the editor of The Morning
Speaker 1: Jolt or the writer of the Morning Jolt every morning,
Speaker 1: which you ought to be getting from National Review, and
Speaker 1: he's often funny and always president on the editor, as
Speaker 1: well as three Martini Lunch podcasts. Jim, I took a
Speaker 1: cheap shot at you going to Break saying that you
Speaker 1: and Hassan Piker are buddies. But you're both podcasters, right?
Speaker 1: Are you a Twitch streamer yet?
Speaker 9: I am not, although Hugh like, aren't there like four
Speaker 9: Americans left who don't have a podcast?
Speaker 1: It really is.
Speaker 9: The non podcast hosts are the fastest shrinking demographic in America.
Speaker 9: By the way, I want to thank you and Dwayne
Speaker 9: for playing the bumper music of Billie Joels. We Didn't
Speaker 9: Start the Fire, one of my favorite songs. I think
Speaker 9: a very thorough defense against Arson and you mentioned in
Speaker 9: the last segment that I've been doing your show since
Speaker 9: before I had kids, and for a moment I was like,
Speaker 9: are you kid, And I realize I have a college freshman,
Speaker 9: and yes, you and I started doing this, I want
Speaker 9: to say, the two thousand and four cycle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I started in two thousand and you were
Speaker 1: early on.
Speaker 9: So I first heard the name Hassan Piker from my
Speaker 9: older teenager and so like a demonstration of how has
Speaker 9: permeated the youth far faster than it, you know, permeates
Speaker 9: you know, middle aged America. But he's a robotics guy,
Speaker 9: like both of them are robotics guys. But yeah, that
Speaker 9: was a you know, like this is big twitch, Like
Speaker 9: Twitch is like playing video games, and other people watch
Speaker 9: you playing video games, and I think this is the
Speaker 9: most unbelievably boring thing you possibly could do. But then again,
Speaker 9: Hugh writ I watched the Jets games. I'm sure a
Speaker 9: lot of people think that's like a you know, evidence
Speaker 9: for for needing a concussion protocol.
Speaker 15: Sort of thing.
Speaker 1: For you, like you and Dan Senor. And there must
Speaker 1: be a third Jets fan in the me is there
Speaker 1: like a.
Speaker 15: Dan Foster the late Nathan Wurtzel. I've gotten there.
Speaker 9: There's a bunch of I've not had a chance to
Speaker 9: get to with Ali Pundit, but do as I understand it,
Speaker 9: he's a Jet.
Speaker 15: A couple other folks.
Speaker 9: So yeah, like there is a DC Conservative journalist Jets
Speaker 9: fan group, but every now and then we do get together.
Speaker 1: All right, So now talk to me a little bit
Speaker 1: about the impact of Hasan Piker on the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: because my proposition is this, and I'll have you answer it.
Speaker 1: He says things that are so racist, misogynist, homophobic, and
Speaker 1: Islamist apologetics that I think he's poisoned. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to kill Democrats. I think he's already killed. Elsaiad's tendency,
Speaker 1: L Sayad did a pretty good job himself. What do
Speaker 1: you think about Piker generally and Piker on L SAE.
Speaker 9: Well, so I noticed that Passan Piker gets a glowing
Speaker 9: profile in New York Times once every two years or so.
Speaker 9: He's gotten at least three and I do a big
Speaker 9: profile on like because all of a sudden he seems
Speaker 9: to come out of nowhere and you hear a lot
Speaker 9: of discussion of him, like, Okay, who is this guy?
Speaker 9: Where did he come from and why is he now somebody?
Speaker 9: But if you follow politics, you're supposed to care about.
Speaker 9: I would put a similar category for Jennifer Welch.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the most.
Speaker 15: Seemingly like the the ugliest person.
Speaker 9: You could possibly imagine on the inside, often saying really ugly,
Speaker 9: horrible things. And these are the kinds of people on
Speaker 9: a regular basis, Big institutions like the New York Times
Speaker 9: or Politico say this is the hot new voice amongst Democrats,
Speaker 9: and I have come to the conclusion is not just
Speaker 9: because you and I have been.
Speaker 15: Doing this for so long.
Speaker 9: You anybody who gets spotlighted by the mainstream media as
Speaker 9: the hot new voice you need to listen to. Nine
Speaker 9: times out of ten, they're gonna be the dumbest person
Speaker 9: you've ever seen. And I really wanted to use some
Speaker 9: words besides person right there, I won't get you in
Speaker 9: trouble with the FCC hue, but like they're generally dumb
Speaker 9: as a box of hammers, as sharp as a butter knife.
Speaker 1: Right, because biker does not appear to have read a book,
Speaker 1: do you think he's read a book.
Speaker 15: Like maybe an instruction manual or something like, yeah, a book?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 9: But because he said most famously, America deserved nine to eleven,
Speaker 9: right right, and el Sayed, when he gets in trouble
Speaker 9: for this, keeps saying the quote was taken out of context. Hugh,
Speaker 9: please explain to me the context in which America deserved
Speaker 9: nine to eleven makes more sense, which is not as
Speaker 9: bad as it says.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 9: Eventually, El Sayed goes on the Sunday shows and he says,
Speaker 9: it was a dumb thing to say. Okay, that is
Speaker 9: an adjective you could use. I think there's a whole
Speaker 9: bunch of things and it's you know, appropriate. This is like,
Speaker 9: we're a month away from the twenty fifth anniversary of
Speaker 9: nine to eleven, and it just is a I don't
Speaker 9: know if like it's easier to say that if you
Speaker 9: either weren't around for nine to eleven or we're a
Speaker 9: really little kid. But those of us who do have
Speaker 9: memories of that day would be like, what on earth?
Speaker 9: Like that's a sign you need to belong in any
Speaker 9: concussion protocol and no senate candidate of any party should
Speaker 9: be scup within ten miles of somebody.
Speaker 1: Like that proposition. The Democrats have allowed themselves to be
Speaker 1: poisoned in the cycle by so many stories about their
Speaker 1: Nutter fringe in the way that Republicans were poisoned a
Speaker 1: few years back by their Nutter fringe in the cycle
Speaker 1: primary nutters. Not only will those people lose, but they
Speaker 1: will bring other people down with them, so that twenty
Speaker 1: twenty six is not what Democrats expect it to be.
Speaker 1: In fact, Republicans might pick up Senate seats in the end.
Speaker 9: What do you think, boy, I you know, from your
Speaker 9: lips to the electorate's ears, Hugh, But I'm less optimistic
Speaker 9: than you. But that's pretty normal for this show. One
Speaker 9: thing I will note, though, is it twenty ten and
Speaker 9: twenty fourteen terrible midterm election years for the Democrats.
Speaker 15: And that's where you say.
Speaker 9: Republicans winning, you know, coast to coast, and that's where
Speaker 9: the state legislator who was running for Congress lost, right,
Speaker 9: That's where the House.
Speaker 15: Member who was running for Senate lost.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 9: When you have a bad midterm election year, not only
Speaker 9: do you lose coast to coast, it generally takes out
Speaker 9: some of your rising talent. And some oftimes these people
Speaker 9: come back shared ground is running again, but by and
Speaker 9: large you end up having much So when you see
Speaker 9: this sudden excitement over a Grand Platner type or an
Speaker 9: Abduled type one. I think the Democrats, you see this
Speaker 9: hunger for generational change, this lingering hangover from Joe Biden,
Speaker 9: which I wrote about in my Washington Post column this week,
Speaker 9: that like the the the risks of having somebody who's
Speaker 9: really elderly was abundant, Like the Democrats paid the worst
Speaker 9: price possible for that, so they're they're freaked out by it.
Speaker 9: So like we want young people, we want fresh voices,
Speaker 9: We need this generational change. And that's why anybody who
Speaker 9: comes along Graham Platner, Abdula Sied Francesca hang for a while.
Speaker 15: Obviously she's not going to the governor's mansion.
Speaker 9: Now, all of a sudden like that, you get embraced
Speaker 9: and you get elevated, and you get touted as the
Speaker 9: next big thing. And the problem is a bunch of
Speaker 9: these people haven't been vetted. A bunch of these people
Speaker 9: have been Yahoo's online with a lot of regrettable comments
Speaker 9: for a whole bunch of years. And the other thing,
Speaker 9: which I think is aparant these people generally haven't run
Speaker 9: for office before.
Speaker 15: Abdul Sayad is an exception.
Speaker 9: There they they they're not they're not ready for prime time.
Speaker 9: They're not ready to be in this situation. And that's
Speaker 9: why you see. You know, Francisca hung bleuw a primary
Speaker 9: she was supposed to win by a wide margin.
Speaker 15: We'll see how Abdullah say.
Speaker 1: Ed does and go out to be a Turkey. Same jokes.
Speaker 1: It's like Statler Hilton on the Muppets. Guaranty the indispensable.
Speaker 1: Read the morning Joelt from National Review. Read him into
Speaker 1: the lodgmin folks. Catch him here and at various educational institutions.
Speaker 1: If you're robotics soon, thank you, Jim. I'll be right
Speaker 1: back