WEBVTT - CONFIRMED! Our Children’s Pediatrician Was A Predator! (They Ignored Us When We Reported Him) 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.439 Hey, everyone, welcome back to doing all those old podcasts. 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:09.240 And let me begin by saying, Happy Mother's Day. It's 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.440 all you moms out there. We were recording this on Sunday. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.840 I know you're getting it at least on Wednesday at 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.040 the earliest, but Happy Mother's Day. It's all you wonderful 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:19.759 moms out there. How has your Mother's Day been, mama? 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.960 As we were joined by Melissa and Novelo this weeks 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:23.560 behind that. 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:24.680 But who made me a mother? 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:26.920 Yeah? How was your Mother's Day? Morning? 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.480 Mama? It was good. It was very enjoyable. The family 0:00:29.520 --> 0:00:31.639 got me flowers. They made me the sweetest video. I 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.960 wanted to share it, and then it was like, I 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.080 made it for you. I'll probably still share it because 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:36.760 it was so good. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:37.760 Where are you going to share it? 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.240 I don't know. I think maybe over on Good Simple Living. 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:42.240 I feel bad because I told the kids, like, no, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:45.839 it's just for mom, So no, I feel bad. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:47.120 If I want to it's so. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.479 Good, you can discuss it with them. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:52.000 Okay, if the kids are cool with it, I'll share it. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:54.960 We snuck in. I snuck every child here into the 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:56.840 podcast through yesterday, one by one. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.600 You're sneaky and. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.920 They all gave like this, like really cool testimonial expressing 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.319 their love and gratitude and appreciation for Melissa. Eli even 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:07.840 got emotional. I told you he was denying it, but 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.800 he got emotional. I came back in here after he 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.360 was done talking, and he was all, well done. 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.160 Eli is He's a man of few words, So that's 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:16.679 really I. 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.560 Thought he did a really good job though. He was 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:22.119 an extra articulate and I thought he was very transparent 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.959 about the way he he you know, feels smarty. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:29.440 Really thankful for the food and thank you for feeding 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.520 out dinners. Yeah, he's so cute. 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.479 But we have a Nevella in here this week. It's 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.120 been a while since we've had Neva in here. 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.200 Has been actually, don't remember the last time. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.399 What's new in your life, Nevllah. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:43.720 Lots of work. We've been working on a new project 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.639 Mom and I. So that's been that's been a new venture. 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.240 It's taken up a bit of time. Yeah, So it's fun, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.559 pretty pretty fun. Got some new opportunities coming up soon 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:53.200 because of it. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.240 So we're going to be making that formal announcement here today, correct, 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.240 But before we get into that, let's just preview the 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.240 rest of the episode because our family kind of got 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:06.600 rocked by something that was completely unforeseen this week, involving 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.079 something that we have discussed with you guys on here previously, 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.560 with an old pediatrician that we had back over in 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.880 Washington State. We'll dive into that. It is somewhat dark, 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.520 so I feel like it's kind of a weird transition 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:21.800 to be making, but worth bringing up and just you know, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.120 it's something that I think is going to be valuable 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:26.440 hopefully to a lot of you out there, because the 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:31.480 patient doctor trust and that relationship is something that unfortunately 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.080 was exploited in this case and it's ballooned into this 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.800 massive controversy. So we'll dive into that. But before we 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.840 get there, what are we announcing here, ladies? 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.200 Okay, So Navan and I are partnering. Last year I 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:49.160 wrote Made to Be Ludo Shameless Fun. You guys were 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:52.440 so great in supporting that. We raised eighty thousand dollars 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.919 for pediatric cancer, and then we wanted to do another book, 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.400 and so I decided that I wanted to write it 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.720 with the person who made a Mother, which is Nevella, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.480 and I think that it's been a really fun project 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.400 so far. The title of our book is called Tiny Human, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:09.080 Tiny Human. Do you want to talk a little bit 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.480 about what tiny Human is about? Sure? 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:16.320 So. Tiny Human is the story of basically a baby's 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:21.359 journey through development, starting in the womb. He is speaking 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:24.520 throughout the book with the gentle voice who is God, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.800 his creator. It goes from the flash of light, the 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.400 zinc flash that starts at the moment of conception, to 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.440 the baby being born and throughout the whole thing. It 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.320 shows all the stages of development. It shows kids, you know, 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.000 what's happening in utero, how these babies are developing, and 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.720 it talks about how you know, no matter how little 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:46.600 tiny human is, he has a special purpose. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.640 Yeah, and we were really careful to not make the 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.080 book scientific or medical. We want it to be a 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.960 sweet story book. So it's a really sweet story about 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.520 this tiny human as he conversates with his creator and 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.880 he's got this huge personnel and he's really excited about 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.840 every stage. So it's not like at nine weeks so 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.080 this is it's not like that. It's clinical. It's a 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:11.480 sweet little story and it is just about the humanity 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.800 of the preborn. I think that the illustrations are coming 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:19.520 together really nicely. We are going I think nineteen twenties vintage, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:24.520 so it's got that vintage very like Water Babies. Yes, old, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.360 it's an old Disney cartoon. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:27.839 Okay, back it up. 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.279 It's adorable. It's really cute. So if you were around 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:36.640 in the eighties and having babies those old vintage baby 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.440 shower cards, it's that kind of feel. So I love 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.919 bringing back the old because our kids just kind of 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.479 gravitate towards all that old stuff. They really, you know, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:49.200 like the cuby doll meets Precious Moments. It's going to 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:52.080 be so cute. And our prayer for the book is 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:55.000 that it touches the hearts of little kids that are 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.720 reading it, so that they can read Tiny Human when 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.239 they're a little child, and then when they're older, maybe 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.240 a decade or two decades later, if they ever find 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.480 themselves in a situation with maybe an unplanned pregnancy, they 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:12.800 will remember Tiny Human and the humanity that is inside 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.440 the womb. Because we're trying to combat with the book 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.720 the lie in the narrative that it's not a life, 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.760 and so that's our hope for the book. It's just 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.000 a clump of cells, right, and so Tiny human is 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.039 far from it, and so that is our hope for 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.720 the book, and then we're making it a charity project, 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:32.680 just like we did with Made to Be Ludo. So 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.800 we are going to be giving a large portion of 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:38.159 the royalties to women's clinics that are going to be 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.960 supporting women for the first two years after they give 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.360 birth and before they give birth as well. And that 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:51.320 goes for pregnancy testing, ultrasounds, medical care, education, baby clothing, diapers, formula, 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:55.159 anything that they need, even childcare costs. So the plan 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.880 is to make motherhood possible for these women. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:05:59.680 Yes, I think that's an important thing that we need 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:03.360 to focus on in the pro life movement, protecting babies, 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.520 saving babies, but also supporting the mothers who may have 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.600 been abortion minded and don't feel like they have that 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:11.880 support or the means to make motherhood possible. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:13.560 Yeah, it's super important. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.760 You sort of accidentally let this slip recently. You want 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.799 to talk about your experience down at the University of Idaho. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:21.520 It wasn't accidental. Yeah, I. 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:27.480 Was trying to get us on a podcast the way. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:30.719 I did talk to the producer the next day, and 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.400 so we have to explain. 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.280 So you went down to the University of Idaho for. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:39.520 A It was a TPUs TPUSA campus event in collapse 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.400 with Daily Wire. So it was Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.680 You guys had Matt on your podcast, but we've never 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.760 never spoken to Michael, and I really want to be 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.280 on a show and when we do a book tour 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.320 that is still we're still in the process of coming 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.960 up with our dates and everything. We're going to be 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:58.760 going on some podcasts. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.240 And so I know, Michael to some of you out there, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.200 actually saw Navah. She went like live up to the 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:07.000 micro of an auditorium of how many people It. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.279 Was like two thousand people. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.600 Yeah, nervous. I couldn't do that. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.120 Terrified. You could hear it a little bit in your voice. Terrified. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.800 So you went up there. You you basically dropped that that, yeah, 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.239 Matt had been here on the podcast or unto the show, 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.040 and that you were writing a book with Mom. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.400 It broke down, uh what the book was about, and 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.520 that we were planning on being in the Daily Wire 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:31.280 studio later and I was like, hey, Matt, we love Michael. 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:36.200 Oh yeah, we would have to be on your show. Yeah, 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.200 And it was like I said yes, he said that 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.720 he would bring cigars, so apparently in the van, I 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:41.760 need to smoke cigars. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.680 I'm on board, So we'll see if that. 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.320 We'll see if that materializes. But it was pretty cool 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.920 shameless plug. So we're really excited about the book. I 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:53.520 think it's gonna be really sweet. It's it's got potential 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:57.120 to do some pretty incredible things. And we are opening 0:07:57.120 --> 0:08:01.240 pre orders today, so the book officially launches October. Yeah, 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:05.920 so the book officially launches October tenth, and so they 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.840 won't ship until October. But preorders are so helpful, just 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:10.600 like they were with me to be Ludo, because it 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.680 helps us know how many we need. And there's also 0:08:13.720 --> 0:08:15.600 going to be a corresponding plush. So a lot of 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.960 you guys got the Ludo plush, but as you know, 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:21.880 they ran out in I think October, and so anybody 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.239 that was wanting to buy for Christmas, they were sold out, 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.000 and I think these plush are going to sell out 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:31.480 also very he's like a fat bottomed lamb. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.680 I like this better than the Ludo. 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.480 He's stinking cute. So we're still working on getting his 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.679 fabric just right. We're very very particular. He's also going 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.079 to have a heartbeat in him to remind kids of 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:49.480 the sweet there's a heartbeat the yes, it corresponds with 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.560 the book and then the little lamb is in the 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.800 book as well, so it all it all goes together, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.640 so it'll be a sweet little gift set. You can 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.240 buy just a book, or you can buy the gift set. Also, 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:03.960 you could donate a lamb and book combo set, just 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.400 like how we donated Made to Be Luto sets to 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.440 cancer warriors. These ones are going to go to a 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.080 baby and a mother who chose life. So we're going 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.560 to be partnering with a company called Save the Storks. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.120 They have one hundred and twenty mobile units and they 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.200 go around and they do free pregnancy testing and free 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.240 altsounds for women who can't afford it or are maybe 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.680 abortion minded, and they will literally go and park outside 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.079 of some of these clinics and try to get women 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:30.719 come over here and let us just do a free altarsound. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.200 And history has proven with the one hundred and twenty 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.320 units that when they do an ultrasound and a mother 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.360 hears their baby's heartbeat and sees what's on the screen 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:42.040 and sees what their baby actually looks like. Seven out 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.320 of ten times they will choose life, even though they 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.840 were walking into the clinic to end the life of 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.199 the child. And then when they do that ultrasound, they're 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.320 going to give the children or the gift the mothers 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.320 for their baby the Levey. So the Levey and the 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.760 book if you buy a donation set, will be literally 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.880 the first gift that this baby is going to ever receive, 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.360 and it's going to be the first thing that this 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.920 mother is given. And just there's something physical about having 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.640 a stuffed animal and a little book for that baby 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:18.319 that will help encourage these mothers that this baby is coming, 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.920 he or she is very real and loved and help 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.120 them to embrace the new life that's inside of them. 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.280 That's so cool. I think it's a great cause. Very 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:28.560 proud of you both for taking this on and doing it. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.600 Melissa has been or both of you really behind the scenes. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.480 This has been, once again just weekly meetings. I'm going 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:37.720 back and forth with different illustrators and the crazy no. 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.040 But it's very involved, the whole process of writing a book, 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:41.600 and we learned this last summer you did with the 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.360 writing of Made Me Ludo. It's it's very, very involved 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.080 and so credits to you both for taking this on 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:48.880 and incorporating it into such a worthy cause. I think 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:49.400 it's awesome. 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.680 Yeah, super exciting. It's super exciting. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.480 I thought about the backstory of like how you got 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.600 here with this real quick, because that was really interesting. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.839 You want to talk about your dream? Yeah, So when 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:03.080 I I had baby Micah, I think he was I 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.040 was writing Made to be Ludo. I know he'll always 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.559 be baby Micah. When I was writing Made to Be Ludo, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.560 I was pregnant, and then when he was born, like 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.840 we really got things rolling, and I signed on with 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:17.680 Brave Books, and I think we were about a week 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.600 and too writing Made to Be Ludo, and I was 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.880 sleeping and right next to my baby, and I had 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:27.120 this vivid dream, like the most vivid dream I've ever had, 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.560 about writing a book called Tiny Human and like that 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.280 was the title of the book, and it was this 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.360 cute little baby and it was all about just the 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.200 humanity of the child in the womb, and everything was 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.720 basically given to me. And this dream down to what 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.480 is said on the last page. The last page was 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:49.200 really vivid, exactly what it needed to say, title everything 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.480 for it. So I called Brave that morning, and I said, 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:53.800 I got to talk to you. I got to write 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.000 this book. I had this dream and I'm not somebody 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.080 that's like, oh God speaks to me in dreams and everything, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:00.680 but this was so vivid. Woke up and I'm like, 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.480 I have to write this. I called my mom. I 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.160 told you about it, like I have to write tiny Human. 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.680 And they tried to talk me to different titles and 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.760 I'm like, no, tiny Human. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:11.720 This has been sticking to her guns on this one. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.120 It has to be this, and I know, like the ending. 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.400 We kind of went back and forth with different people. 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.040 I'm like, well, well, maybe we could change this word. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.640 I'm like, no, this is how this book has to be, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:26.079 and so Brave said, yeah, let's do it. Let's I mean, 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.120 first he was like, can we get the first book out? 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.680 And I need you at the start of Made to 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.960 Be Ludo. Yeah, So I've been sitting on this project 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.640 for a year now, and as soon as Made to 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.000 Be Ludo was out, I'm like, Tiny Human, let's go. 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.959 And so we just got right to work on it. 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.400 And then I wanted to write it with Nevella because 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.959 I mean, she's, like, I said, the one who made 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.360 me a mother, And when Jeremy and I were dating 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.680 and we hadn't been dating that long, we ended up 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.880 pregnant with Navella. We've talked about this before and although 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:01.640 that is not the easiest road to take, and there 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.720 was so much fear and anxiety and unknowns around that 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.720 because it wasn't the best time for us. Really are 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.880 you talking about We had only been dating a little while, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:14.160 we had recently moved in together, I know, And then 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.959 I was just I was so in some wild at 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.000 oats at the time, like I was out of college, and. 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.520 We were just, Okay, you're not setting a great example 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.040 for your nearly twenty year old daughter. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.480 I know, I know, do as I say, not as 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:30.000 I do. No, we've talked about all this as a family, 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.280 about how that's not the ideal way to start out 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.880 in life. And so anyway it worked out. She's sitting here, Yeah, Yeah, 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:40.560 So we ended up pregnant, and I remember thinking like, 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.439 there's no way I could be pregnant because I've never 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.040 been pregnant before, Like that's never happened before, Like there's 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.040 no way. There's such a disconnect when you get pregnant 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.280 for the first time, when you first get that, like. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:53.520 You know what I mean. 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.840 Now when I say that I'm pregnant, you're like babies coming. 0:13:56.960 --> 0:14:01.040 But the first time, there's like this huge disconnected like 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:01.920 there's no way. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.400 This is for men in this situation too, though. Yeah, 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.240 it just is you're more you know, you're you're carrying 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:10.480 the child. So it's there's a disconnect from man up 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.000 until the point of like really showing I. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.120 Think, right, But it's especially the first. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.439 Time, especially the first time. Yeah, especially, I mean this 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.720 sounds bad, like you're kind of in denial. Yeah, if 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.360 I'm being honest at these I was my experience. 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.360 Yeah, and it was scary and we I had a 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.000 lot of debt. I had a lot of student loan debt. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.960 I was one month into my first teaching job. And 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:31.760 I mean I didn't even want to tell you because 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.600 I didn't think you would be like happy about it. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.840 I did not want to tell my parents. Came from 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.200 a very conservative Christian family. Did not want to tell 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.160 my grandparents. That was even worse. You didn't want to tell. 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:42.720 Your dad, Like there was terrified. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:48.280 It was very scary and I was never abortion minded, 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:51.680 but I understood in that time how you could be 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.080 so scared and so nervous, and so in denial. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.560 All the pressures are overwhelming, and you just wanted. 0:14:56.320 --> 0:15:00.360 To go away, right, I just wanted to go away. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.960 So I'm very glad that we didn't make it go away. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:07.040 But I understand now that I've had an unplanned pregnancy 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:13.400 at a very inopportune time, how fear and anxiety can 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.360 overwhelm you and then you walk into that clinic or 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.560 you order those pills and you just make it go away. 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.240 And so I think that that was a really powerful 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.400 thing that both of us, you know, you and I 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.920 went through, because now it's not like, oh, we got 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:29.240 married and we had this perfect little house and the 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:31.800 white pick of fence and then we decided to start trying, 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.800 and then that wasn't our story. And I think there's 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:39.160 power in that when we want to reach the hearts 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.160 and the minds of young women, because it's like, hey, 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.080 I've been there, and flash forward twenty years, like this 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:46.400 is how this story can turn out. 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.360 Yeah. It's a challenge to convey that to a young woman, though, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.560 I think because we're you know, we're older, and she's 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:53.760 here and we're like, yeah, everything worked out great, and 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.760 you know, it's just it's hard to really pound home like, hey, 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.280 we've been in your shoes. We understand, and you know, 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.560 we understand not the temptation, but we understand. Word is 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.400 that your mind goes when you're in that state of panic. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.280 Quite honestly, Yeah, I. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:09.000 Just think it's really hard when you have somebody that 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.640 did everything perfectly and they've been married and they have 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.760 like this supportive husband that's really excited about welcoming a baby, 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:16.920 and then there's telling you like you have to be 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.680 pro life. They're like, you don't know anything about my situation. 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.880 You don't You've never been where I've been. You don't 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.840 feel this fear. Yeah. So I feel like it equipped 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:29.680 us for this project, and I think it's really equipped 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.400 a VA for the project as well, because this is 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.480 something you're super passionate about and you were that child 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:39.440 who's very ill prepared, young dumb parents chose life on 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:40.080 when the. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:41.760 Van came back from the turning point. Thing I was 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:43.680 that you made me sound horrible. 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:50.160 No, No, you are a very supportive partner, but like 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:54.280 you were really scared too, and this was yeah, but 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.600 I mean, you know you thial. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.600 You never came up at the time, though it was 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:04.080 never serious consideration for all us fortunately. Yeah, but yeah, 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.080 I think it's it's a great message to put out there, 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:07.600 float out there for young women to hope the book 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:11.800 takes off and thrives. You guys have a true genuine 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:16.040 passion for this issue, and I think it's fantastic that 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.640 you're putting it in the form of a book that's 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:21.159 that's very accessible and easy to digest. And it's not 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:22.919 necessarily specifically about abortion. 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.520 It's not about abortion, not at all. It's yeah, it 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.640 doesn't mention abortion. Tiny Human wasn't destined for abortion. It's 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:29.280 nothing like that. 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:32.560 It's adorable, is adorable with with the renderings and all 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.639 the illustrations that I've seen thus far. So credit to 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.280 you guys for pouring your all. It's very proud of 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:37.680 you both. 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.920 So we're going to have we'll have a link down 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.760 below if you guys want to pre order. It does 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.359 us a huge favor if you think you're going to 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.160 want this book, or you want to donate a book, 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.040 if even if you don't have a child or grandchild, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.040 then and it makes a really great big brother, big 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.520 sister book also because it just helps little kids see 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.800 like what's going on with our new brother and sister, 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:56.840 and so I think it's going to be really great. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:58.720 We're gonna have a link down below to pre order, 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:00.880 or you can just go to any human book at 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:02.960 dot com and put in your pre orders now. And 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.160 that just helps us a lot to know how many 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.840 plushes we need, because you do not want us to 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.040 sell out of the big bottom lamb before you can 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.040 get your hand on one. Trust me, you want one. 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:17.600 He's got eyelids, he's very few. He's sold out a lot. 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.960 They did, they did. He looks I like him better 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:22.840 than the movie, like I said, horrible. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.080 Yeah, we're excited, all right. So that was all of 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.159 our good news and our exciting news. Now we have 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.760 to get into a much harder topic something. If you 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:36.320 do have little ones watching, I would recommend maybe. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.479 Hitt and pause, hitt and pause, or removing them from 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:39.800 the room. 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:42.479 Yeah. 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