1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 2: Build Different is a production of the American Association of 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Christian Counselors. To support this podcast and learn how you 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: can help us to promote all our biblical content, spread 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: the Gospel, and provide mental health resources and training to 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: people everywhere, just go to Aaccfoundation dot org. Again, that's 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: Aaccfoundation dot org. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Built Different. I'm Zach Clinton, your. 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: Host, and each week I come to you exclusively on 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: the Life Audio podcast Network. 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Now let's roll. 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back into the Built Different podcast is always. 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: I'll be your host, doctor Zach. 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: Clinton, joined by my dad as always, the president of 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: the AACC, the founder of Ignite, the director of the 25 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: Global Center for Human Flourishing at Liberty University, doctor Tim Clinton, Dad, 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: thanks for joining me. 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: As always, love having conversations, Zach, especially with our special guests. 28 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 3: You know, yes, good stuff. I mean this is where 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: life hits the road. You know what I'm saying. That's 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: what it's all about, meaningful conversation. 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 2: I can't wait as we're backstage here at our Ignitement's 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: Impact Weekend twenty twenty six. Right here in Lynchburg, Virginia, 33 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: Thomas for a Baptist Church sod out crowd forty five 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: hundred men are gathering to deepen their relationship with God 35 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: and develop and strengthen their community and relationships with one another. 36 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: I think God's going to do something fantastic. And tonight 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: we have a very special guest to lead us in concert, 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: really to lead us in worship, mister Rhett Walker, who's backstage. 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: Rhett cannot wait to dive in a little bit more 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: aboutrhtt though he is a Grammy and a Dove nominated 41 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: a singer and songwriter in the Christian space. But also 42 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 2: he's got this this country, this pop flare about him 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: when it comes to just be able to rock and 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: roll Southern Southern. 45 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: Stop even even got the shoes to him. 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Man, He's got something to him. 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 2: So many songs, gospel song days that we dreamed of, 48 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: believer songs that you're very well aware of and familiar with, Rhet. 49 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: I cannot wait to dive into today's conversation. Thanks for 50 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 2: joining us, Rhet. Let me say this, as you prepare 51 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: to go out to a room an audience of forty 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: five hundred men, men are coming. 53 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: In carrying things. 54 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pain and brokenness and shame, and you get 55 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: the opportunity to lead us in the heart and in 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 2: the posture of warship. How do you prepare and what's 57 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: your prayer for tonight? 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: Well, my prayer in general going to a show is 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: that people won't check their bags at the door, like 60 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: bring it to the altar, bring it to the feet 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 4: of Jesus. The stage that I'm on, I don't deserve 62 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: that stage. Like nobody's stepping on that stage tonight deserves 63 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 4: that stage. We are all flawed, messed up human beings, 64 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 4: and so I think that's always my prayer. But tonight 65 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: with men us men, we like you just said, we 66 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 4: carry it. We're not the first to go be like, hey, wife, 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 4: let me sit you down and talk about this like 68 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: we carry it. We don't want to tell anybody, and 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 4: so I think my biggest prayer tonight is that these 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: men will just be vulnerable. It'll go Lord, you move, 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 4: move through me, change what needs to be changed. 72 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 5: So that's my prayer. 73 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: I can tell ret that it's not a performance with you, 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: like you said, it's not about me getting up there 75 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: to impress people. 76 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: This is personable. 77 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: You want to impact people, allowing God to use you 78 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: as a conduit, a vessel through which he channels his 79 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: message of hope to other people. 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I have been doing it a while, It's been 81 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: thirteen years, but I don't take it for granted. Like 82 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: each stage is different, like each stage is a it's 83 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: a different soul in that room that needs different help. 84 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: And hey, there are seasons two in life when it 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: seems like things are I don't know, just coming together, 86 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: Like something's happening in our country. We hear people talking 87 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 3: all the time about how Bible seals are up and 88 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: how men in particular coming to God like never before, 89 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: young men. 90 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, turning to Christ. 91 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 3: Seriously, you go back and you look at the condition 92 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: of the country and the challenges, but then you look 93 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: at the everyday life of men. You begin to realize 94 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: it's a battle. I mean literally, it's in a throwdown fight. 95 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: Not just culture. I'm talking about the battle for the 96 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: hearts and souls of men, and the majority of men 97 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: somewhere along the way rad have come to believe for 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: whatever reason, maybe God he's good. But I don't know 99 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: that he really loves me, because if he knows me 100 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: the way you say he knows me, there's no way 101 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 3: he could love me. 102 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell people every night before I sing this 103 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 4: one song, I'm like, look, you got to remember if 104 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: we believe what we say, we believe, he didn't send 105 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: Jesus to die for ninety eight percent, to die for 106 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 4: ninety nine percent. It's one hundred percent paid in full. 107 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 4: And people are out there going But Rett, you don't 108 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: know me. You don't know the thoughts I have, or 109 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: the addiction I'm dealing with or trying to get through, 110 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: or the marriage problem or the wayward kid my son 111 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 4: that don't respect me, or what. You don't know that, 112 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: And yeah I don't. But I'm not the one that 113 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 4: can heal that. That's only God. And so that's why 114 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 4: we're here tonight or any night. I'm playing a show 115 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 4: like I can't save you. Only Jesus can. But I 116 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: can point you to Him and point you to the 117 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 4: one that can save you. And so I think that's 118 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: the beauty of grace and knights Like this, you know, 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: and every other conference that you are doing all across 120 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: the country, it's like you're coming together to just point 121 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: to Jesus. 122 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 5: It's not about anybody on. 123 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 4: That stage, like I just said, It's just about Him, right. 124 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: You know, every person has a story. We all are 125 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: familiar with suffering. No one's a stranger to struggle. And 126 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: so for you, man, I was just doing my research 127 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: and my home and I saw some of your backstory 128 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: and just your upbringing the backwater behind. Really this man 129 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: who sings songs like the gospel song, who sing songs 130 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: like believer, I'm just like I saw in an interview 131 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: recent and you said, I can't believe that I get 132 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: to do this knowing who I once was and now 133 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: who I now am. Take us back though, growing up 134 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: raised around the faith, but then as a lot of 135 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: us have right kind of wandering, drifting and finding your 136 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: way back to him. 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I grew up a pastor's kid, and I 138 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 5: did too. 139 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: If you know, that's about to say. If you've met 140 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: a PK, you know immediately. And I added some chapters 141 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 4: to that PK book for sure, And and you know it. 142 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: Was it was wild because I grew up. 143 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 4: I mean when I say, as in the church every day, 144 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 4: like that's where I got dropped off after school because 145 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: that's where my dad was. And you know, I learned 146 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: to play music there mainly because I was the one 147 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 4: that had to fill in for whatever. Dude didn't show 148 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: up for the worship team on Sunday. So it's like 149 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 4: the bass player can't make it. So figure that out, son, 150 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: you know. But I grew up in the faith, and 151 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: I always tell people I knew enough Jesus to get 152 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: out of trouble. You know, like if they're like, Ray, 153 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: you need to you need to quit talking, I'd be like, well, 154 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: Philippians four thirteen says, you know, I could take scripture 155 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 4: out of context so quick to fit whatever RENT needed. 156 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: And I lived that way for seventeen years, and it 157 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: caught up with me real quick. Just you know, living 158 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: however I wanted to, didn't care the consequences or who 159 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: it might, you know, hurt my family, whatever, And I 160 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: just we moved. My dad had just got to church. 161 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 4: He was the first time head pastor at this church, 162 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: he'd been associate pastor before. And we were there six 163 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 4: months and I got my girlfriend pregnant, and small town 164 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 4: USA erupted because they were already mad because you know, 165 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 4: he was trying to preach in genes and so that 166 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 4: we didn't do that, you know, And so there are 167 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: always already this guy's stirring things up. And then you know, 168 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: the pastor's son gets his girlfriend pregnant. Now the whole 169 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: town is just talking about this dude that knocked or 170 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: the pastor son that knocked up his girl, and like, 171 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: how can he run a church if he can't even 172 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 4: run his own family, Like my dad had anything. 173 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 5: To do with it, you know. 174 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: And it's and I watched outside of this church just 175 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: murmur and fuss and wine and talk bad and call names. 176 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: And then I got kicked out of my school. And 177 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: I was in a Christian private school when I got 178 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 4: her pregnant. Then they kicked me out because I got 179 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 4: my girlfriend pregnant. And all I could think was now's 180 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: the time, Like I need the believers the most. Yeah, 181 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: it was a summer before my senior year in high school, 182 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: and the Christian school kicked me out, like I probably 183 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: need to graduate with this baby coming, you know, And 184 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 4: everybody was talking, and I was starting to tell myself like, man, 185 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 4: I've got every reason to just run from this crap, 186 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: like this is this is stupid, Like we. 187 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 5: Every Sunday, we do the same dag. 188 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, I don't care about this if this 189 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: is the way believers really are. And inside the four 190 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: walls of that church was a small little congregation that 191 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: rallied around me in April and said, listen, if you 192 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 4: will put your eyes on Jesus and give your life 193 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 4: to the Lord, we will help you. We're gonna stay 194 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 4: by your side, especially because you don't know how much 195 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: formula costs. 196 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: You know. 197 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: And so they're like, we're going to rally around you 198 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 4: and support you, but you've got to put your eyes 199 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: on Jesus and you've got to follow them. And I 200 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: remember I hit me in April, my wife, hitting my 201 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: knees and going, Lord, I've heard my daddy talk about grace, peace, redemption, 202 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: all these things for seventeen years, and I need that 203 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 4: to be true. And if that's true, here's my life, 204 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: and so we gave our lives to the Lord. We 205 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: got married, had that baby when I I'll have four kids, 206 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: twenty one down to seven, and we celebrate twenty two 207 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: years of marriage this July third, So congratulations. But the 208 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: coolest part, and this is what I love on stage 209 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 4: every night when I tell that little story right there, 210 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 4: is the greatest thing about that is it has nothing 211 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: to do with me in April, like we didn't read 212 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 4: the right devotional or book or say the longest prayer 213 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: or fast longer than anybody. Like it started with us 214 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 4: just going Jesus, here's our life. Everything else fell in 215 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: the place after that. Because I wanted to be a 216 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 4: good dad. I screwed up along the way. I don't 217 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 4: think any dad would say they haven't. You know, there's 218 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 4: been many times I've had to go to my kids 219 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 4: and go, hey, I'm sorry for the way I responded 220 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: or reacted to that, you know. And now that we 221 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 4: celebrate twenty three years, just looking at it's like this 222 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 4: just points to God. And that's the same grace for anybody, 223 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: not just for that in April. That's my favorite part 224 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 4: of the show. And maybe tonight, you know, getting to 225 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 4: remind me in or tell them for the first time. 226 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stop this right there and jump in to say, 227 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: you're listening to build different I'm Zach Clinton. We need 228 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: to break for a brief message from our sponsors. I'll 229 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: be back with our guests to keep the conversation flowing 230 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: right after this. 231 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: You're listening to Life audio. 232 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: One of my favorite songs of yours when Mercy found me. Yeah, 233 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 3: you listening to you unpack that? It takes on a 234 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 3: whole new connotation. Now that's what I've listened to that 235 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: song a lot. You know that, Rhett, and I'm thinking 236 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: growing up as a pastor's kid, I get. I understand 237 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 3: that glass house issue and the challenge and the scrutiny 238 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: and the ridiculousness, and by the way, also the frustration 239 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 3: and the anger toward people. 240 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 5: And how they they help. 241 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: Church people sometimes treat pastors and people in the midst 242 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: of storms. You hear what I'm saying, always good to 243 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: see people. Quote come back to center, come back to 244 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: grace and mercy. You hear what I'm saying, and quote 245 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 3: love in such a way that we challenge one another 246 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: to good works. We know the Lord loves righteousness. He does, 247 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: and he calls us to that. But rhet not easily 248 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: done and letting go a lot of that stuff and 249 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 3: moving forward. It takes intentional effort. You don't just will 250 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: yourself to do it. You've got to discipline yourself, train 251 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: yourself in those ways. Talk about some of how maybe 252 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: music became that DNA for you and how God used 253 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: it in your life, the kind to pull you, you know 254 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 3: that maybe really pull you toward Him in different ways. 255 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 256 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: So I never had a plan b at all. I 257 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: wanted to do music since I was a kid. Since 258 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: then when seventeen hit, it mattered even more because it 259 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 4: was like, oh man, as they hit the fan but 260 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: up on three Christian bands, my dad saying Quartet. 261 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 5: So I grew up on Gold City. And then. 262 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 4: The second Christian band was the Supernatural Tour. I went 263 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 4: and saw DC talk and I was like, I want 264 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: to do like you can do it this get me 265 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: again professional, like I want to do like so I 266 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 4: learned my my vocals from Gold City. I learned like ooh, 267 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: you can actually talk about Jesus and put on a 268 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: show still like this can be a thing like well produced. 269 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 4: And then the third Christian band, I grew up on 270 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: was Leonard skinnerd. 271 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Put Southern rock and roll right that church music. 272 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: So yeah, so that's kind of where I got my background. 273 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: But growing up in church, A good part about like 274 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: having a film in on those Sunday mornings was being 275 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: around worship music my entire life, you know. And then 276 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: when I was eighteen, a year after we had Riley 277 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: Southeastern Seminary in wake Forest, North Carolina, asked me to 278 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: come out there and be one of their worship leaders. 279 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 5: Wow. And I was. 280 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: Like, like, this town's still talking crap, like you want 281 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 4: me out there? And and we did that, and I 282 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: got to travel around to universities with like their worship 283 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 4: team and lead. And then I was around not just 284 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: my dad being like a spiritual leader in my life 285 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: because he was the pastor of the church. 286 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 5: There wasn't many for me except for my youth pastor. 287 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 4: So now I'm around people that are studied, that have 288 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 4: went you know, and and some I'm around these older 289 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: men that are just like kind of pouring into my life. 290 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: And then God just kept opening doors. And that was 291 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: one of the prayers with me in April at first, 292 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: was like God, like you're gonna have to shut this, 293 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 4: you know, walker door for me because I'll do music 294 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: to people are like, hey, it's weird for you to 295 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: stand on stage, you're too old, like go home. So 296 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: I'm always pray like, God, you're gonna have to shut 297 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: the door. But he just kept opening doors. And a 298 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: church called, and then we moved. And of course we 299 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 4: were young and didn't have much money, and no one 300 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 4: told us not to have two kids, like maybe make 301 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: some money first. And we had my second son immediately 302 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 4: after my daughter, and uh, and so then my mom 303 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: so we would move a church, you know, if they'd 304 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 4: pay me a quarter extra an hour. And then my 305 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: mom called and she goes, right, if you're gonna do 306 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 4: this music thing, I was praying for you this morning 307 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: and God just put on my heart if you wanted 308 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: to be a surfer, you would move to the ocean. 309 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 4: She was like, why don't you move to Nashville? And 310 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: that had been on my heart like crazy, but God 311 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: had kept moving us. We didn't move five six times. 312 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, April's gonna kill me, like if we move again. 313 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: And so I went to her and I said, hey, 314 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: let's pray about this. What do you think about moving 315 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 4: to Nashville, and she goes, do you feel like God's 316 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 4: leading us to Nashville? And I was like yes, she goes, 317 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: all right, figure it out, and so I was reluctant. 318 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 4: I emailed two churches that was it, and didn't tell 319 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 4: them my background and tell them like I had been 320 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 4: leading worship at these colleges and I've been doing this 321 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: for a few years now. And I emailed two churches 322 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: and I just said, hey, are y'all looking for a 323 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 4: worship leader. Two months later we moved and I got 324 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: the church gig. And then two years later I signed 325 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 4: my first record deal and God just kept with it. 326 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: Was It's always been two's in my life too, but 327 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 4: God just kept opening these doors, and so. 328 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 5: That has literally drown. 329 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: I love making music that shows my heart and connects 330 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 4: people with Jesus, but like you said, music has really 331 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: drawn me in because I get to continue to see 332 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: God's grace in it, like He's let me do this tonight, 333 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 4: forty five hundred men like a sold out thing. Like 334 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 4: never in a million years did you know the dude 335 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 4: that knocked his girl up at seventeen would be like, 336 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: oh yeah, I bet I'd be going to Thomas road 337 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 4: to a sold out with all these great people, and 338 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: I be the concert at the end, never in a 339 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 4: million years. So it is truly a picture of God's 340 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 4: grace that he just continues to let it. 341 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: And I try to screw it up. 342 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 4: I'm human, like there's no reason I should be getting 343 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 4: these things, but it's like God just keeps going. Now, man, 344 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: I know I know what you really want, and you're 345 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 4: actually using your voice to do what I really want. 346 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 5: So I won't here you go. 347 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 2: Isn't that the mystery of God, the incomprehensibility that we 348 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: can't even fathom his ways and his goodness and his 349 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: grace in our lives? Just a fun question here before 350 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: we go a little bit deeper. Out of all the songs, 351 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 2: right the gospel song when Mercy found Me Believer, anyone 352 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 2: that particularly sticks out to you, is you know what? 353 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: That was the song that God continues to use in 354 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: my life, in my story to continue to draw me 355 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: closer to his heart. 356 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 4: That I wrote, Yep, Man on the Middle Cross, because 357 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: that one was crazy because I live in Georgia again. 358 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 4: I lived in Nashville for many years, but we've moved 359 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 4: back to around my family and my wife's family, and 360 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 4: I was driving to go right with Matthew West, and 361 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: I had no idea of like any song to write, 362 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: and like when where she found me being about teenage pregnancy. 363 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: I like to write songs about life lived and lessons learned. 364 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: You know, hey, if Wret can get through this, maybe 365 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 4: I can get through this exactly. 366 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 5: And I was I was. 367 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 4: Literally scrolling TikTok and that's just sitting in the hotel room, 368 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: just doom scrolling, going, Lord, please just give me something 369 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: in the morning, I guess. And I came across the 370 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 4: Man on the Middle Cross sermon by Alistair Beg yep 371 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 4: and that and the clip that went viral. And the 372 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 4: thing that got me was he said, imagine the man 373 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 4: on the right ends up in heaven, say he's the angels, 374 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: you know, he sees the angels or whatever, and the 375 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 4: angels go, dude, how did how did you get here? 376 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 4: Like you just died on the cross, Like you're a criminal? 377 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: Like how did you get here? Like you didn't even 378 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: you didn't even follow Jesus and you walk the same 379 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 4: ground at the same time as him, Like what makes 380 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: you think you can spend eternity? And he said, can 381 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 4: you imagine if the man just looked at him and said, hey, 382 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 4: I don't know where I am. I don't know how 383 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: I got here. All I know is the man on 384 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: the middle cross said I could come. And I was like, 385 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 4: what a beautiful picture of grace because we try to 386 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 4: complicate it, make it this trophy Jesus thing where if 387 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: I do enough, rite, enough good and we need to 388 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 4: do those things, but it maybe God will let me 389 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: go to heaven. The scripture says, those who call upon 390 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 4: the name of Jesus shall be saved those other good 391 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 4: works and things come like I said earlier, come after that, 392 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: because you see God's grace for a wretched soul when 393 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 4: you go God man, I want to follow Jesus and 394 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: love on people and tell the clerk at the grocery 395 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 4: store about this God that I found. And so I 396 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 4: went to Matthew's house the next day, and before like 397 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: I could even knock on the door, he goes, Ritt, 398 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: have you seen this tick talk? And it was the 399 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 4: exact same clip, and I went, brother, we might have 400 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 4: some questions will have to answer in heaven if we 401 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,239 Speaker 4: don't write this song. So and our prayer behind it 402 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 4: was just that the Holy Spirit would meet people right 403 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 4: where they're at when they hear it, it not be 404 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 4: about me singing, and man it is it is so 405 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: fun to watch each night, It's like people just go God, 406 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: I'm just reminded of what he's done. I'm like, I can't. 407 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: I don't deserve it and I can't earn it. Look 408 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 4: at what he did. 409 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: Yes, you know. 410 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: I was on a flight with a team a couple 411 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: of weekends back. It was our kickoff event for our 412 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Extraordinary Women Tour, which is by Still 413 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: Waters is the theme out of Psalm twenty three, and 414 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: I was reading out of Mark chapter eight, and it 415 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: was interesting because as I was reading about Jesus having 416 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: just fed the four thousand, and Mark chapter six is 417 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: the account of him feeding the five thousand that everybody's 418 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: pretty well aware of twelve baskets of overflow, and this 419 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: account in Mark chapter eight, after he feeds the four thousand, 420 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 2: there are seven baskets of overflow, and then just moments later, 421 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: Jesus gets on a boat with his disciples and they 422 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: only brought one loaf of bread. So they're looking at 423 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: each other disgruntled, upset because they forgot their bread rhet 424 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: and they're mad, and they're weary, and they're worried, and 425 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: they're frustrated, and Jesus hears them. And then he asked 426 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: this question, like, do you do you not remember what 427 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: I just did? Were you not just there like truly 428 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: in person? I just fed them? Did you not see 429 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: the baskets? And ask the question how many baskets were 430 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: left when I fed the five thy twelve? How many 431 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: baskets were left when I've had the four thousand and seven? 432 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: He said, do you not yet understand? I think Satan 433 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: would love nothing more? He uses fear, But I think 434 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: rooted in fear is a spirit of forgetfulness. And when 435 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: I think of worship, and I think of what you 436 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: do every night leading people in the presence of God, 437 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: you are reminding us to continually proclaim the goodness of God, 438 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: to continually remember and practice that spirit of remembrance in 439 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: our daily lives. Speak to just why do you think 440 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: worship in the practice of remembrance is so necessary for 441 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 2: us as mena faith? 442 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 5: Because of what you just said, like the enemy. 443 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: Like a few of my songs I wrote, believer, I 444 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 4: wrote it brushing my teeth, and it was because as 445 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 4: soon as I got up that morning, my first thoughts 446 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 4: as I was getting ready was you're probably I think 447 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: me and April got into an argument the night before 448 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 4: and everything was fine about it felt like you're just 449 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: not You're not gonna be the husband that you're supposed 450 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 4: to be, Like you're you're it's always going to be 451 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 4: like this it started off crazy, or you can't be 452 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 4: the dad that you're. Your teen who's struggling with at 453 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 4: school right now needs to be now all these souls 454 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 4: that started happening, and I'm not really an anxious guy, 455 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: like most of the time I'm told to calm down, 456 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 4: but like I just started getting anxious and everything's Finns 457 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: and I was like, no, I'm not like I'm I'm no, 458 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 4: I've got Jesus like, I'm you know, I'm I'm a believer, 459 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm a gospel preacher, I'm you know, because of him, 460 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 4: a mountain mover like all these things. I was like, no, like, 461 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 4: I've got to be louder than this. That's why reading 462 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: your word is important, That's why you know, being what 463 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 4: you put in is what comes out. And so I 464 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: wrote that song just brushing my teeth to remind myself, 465 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: like hey, dude, like tell the end of me where 466 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 4: to go, like we're And also I think another big 467 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: thing is practicing sharing the gospel. 468 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 5: I've got a buddy who just. 469 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: Came to faith and he came to me one time 470 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 4: and he goes, he's I mean like came to faith, 471 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: like from nothing, like never went to church, nothing. And 472 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 4: we had talked my kids are in school. We homeschool now, 473 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 4: but they're in school. And every day at carpet up 474 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 4: we'd sell on our golf carts and that man, why 475 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 4: do you sing this? Because he knew I played music, 476 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 4: and I was like, well, man, you know this comes 477 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 4: from scripture or this comes from life. And so he 478 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: just started reading and he finally came and one day 479 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: on the golf PARTI goes. He goes, hey, Riet, I 480 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 4: asked Jesus to come in my heart, but I don't 481 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 4: want to talk about and I was like, all right, cool, 482 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 4: like you know you're figuring this thing out. The next 483 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 4: day on the on the cart, he goes, hey, man, 484 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 4: because he don't know anything about church, he goes, I 485 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: would like to start something where like maybe dudes come 486 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: together and like talk about the Bible. 487 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: But it not be like dumb. 488 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: And I was like, you're talking about a small group, 489 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 4: and yes, we can do that, and so we started, 490 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: like he started this small group all because of just 491 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 4: small conversations that he had been having with people around 492 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 4: the neighborhood and you know, getting in his word. 493 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 5: And I tell people all the time, like I try 494 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 5: to practice it. 495 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 4: At my local grocery store with people just any chance 496 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: I can, because I felt guilty a year about a 497 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: year ago, I was like, I only really share the 498 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 4: gospel on stage, and is that equated to the only 499 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 4: reason I'm on stage is because I'm getting paid, And 500 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: so I kind of it's weird, like I do it 501 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: for ministry, but. 502 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 5: The only time I'm doing it is when there's a check. 503 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 4: And so I was like, you know what, I've got 504 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: to tell people in my community, Like that's where almost 505 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 4: start at my grocery store. And so that's now that 506 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: my small group is doing that, They're going out and 507 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 4: like you know, and it was funny. They're like how 508 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: do we do it? And I was like, start with Hey, 509 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 4: Jesus loves you. It can start there. You build relationships 510 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 4: with people, and so that's why I think. When you're 511 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: constantly thinking that way, it's hard for the. 512 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 5: Enemy to go. You're not going to be the man 513 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 5: you need to be. 514 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: You're not going to meet because you're constantly preaching goodness 515 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: over yourself. I tell people all the time too, kids 516 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: start acting crazy. Put worship. Tell Alexi to turn worship 517 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 4: music on. They don't have to be ret Walker. Tell 518 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 4: them to turn Olilan on, and the air in the 519 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 4: room will change because it's hard for the enemy to 520 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: get louder than that when when worship is just in 521 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 4: your house. 522 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 3: But there seems to be a shift in culture, even 523 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 3: in music. You look at country music, Christian music, Brandon Lake, 524 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: Jelly Roll, people out there, Carrie Underwood, people on bigger 525 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 3: stages talking openly about Jesus. You've got Christian music that's soaring. 526 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 3: You know that a lot of people are coming back. 527 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: There's this crossover entry thing. A lot of people grew 528 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: up on eighties music, et cetera. You know that talk 529 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: to us about the dynamic of maybe your vibe, your approach, 530 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: your entry point. You got a lot of guys who 531 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 3: are coming here tonight. A lot of people think that 532 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: we bring the choir and we don't most of these guys, 533 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: maybe half of them or something like that, go to 534 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: church barely, you know, off consistent, but not many. Most 535 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: of the other guys, they probably grew up in a 536 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: Christian home or they have some type of connection, but 537 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: they really haven't been alive in their faith. They come 538 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: here and this is an experience for them because it 539 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 3: for whatever reason, we use outdoors, you know. 540 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: Midway barbecue. 541 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: We got jeeps and four wheelers, and we've got workshops 542 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 3: on turkey hunting, predator hunting, duck hunting, to being a 543 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: good dad, how to have a great marriage, how to 544 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: overcome an addiction. All this stuff's going on. So what 545 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: it does is it rips down walls. And for a 546 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 3: lot of these kids people out here, you got fathers 547 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: and sons who, by the way, the sons have never 548 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 3: been in a church service where they heard their dad sing, 549 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so all this stuff's happening, okay, 550 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: But something happens when I'll say. 551 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 5: The boys get together. When the boys get together. 552 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: And the place is staged, right, there's something that really explodes. 553 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 3: And I'm speaking to that somehow. You have to enter 554 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 3: into that portal, if you will, to get the right 555 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: or the opportunity to bring that light into the darkness. 556 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: You know that, And I don't. 557 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm making sense. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, 558 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: just what is that kind of wiring for you? Well, 559 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm looking at your hat, Jesus says, I mean years ago, 560 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: nobody would ever warren that hat. Yeah, what I'm saying, No, 561 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: that that would have been like the death of you. 562 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: And in some circles, you got it. 563 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is actually out there. 564 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: I love so Yeah, I'm getting Yeah, it's cool. 565 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:23,880 Speaker 5: That's cool. 566 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 4: I think enough junk has hit the fan and there 567 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 4: is enough. Yeah, And like people are, people are tired, 568 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 4: and they're looking for hope. And the church for many 569 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: years has done a terrible job of pointing people to. 570 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 5: Where that hope is. 571 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: Like there was outreach, you know, people would go make 572 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: sandwiches for somebody, and a lot of churches. 573 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 5: Did it, right, But I just have a little potluck 574 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 5: or something. Yeah, but that's usually for the people that 575 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 5: go there. 576 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 4: And if you have a pot luck, I'm not going 577 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 4: because I don't want to touch the food that I 578 00:28:59,440 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 4: don't know who. 579 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 5: That's weird. 580 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 4: They put their hands in the green beans, like I'm 581 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 4: not doing that, like you got food trucks here. But 582 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: I think enough desperation. Stuff has hit the fan sins 583 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 4: of our fathers where you know, just generational things have 584 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: passed down like you said, addictions or whatever, and and 585 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 4: people are tired, and dudes are finally going, man. 586 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't I can't keep this up. This pace 587 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 5: won't last. 588 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 4: I'll lose my life, my wife, my kids, Like I'm 589 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: this ain't gonna work. And then you starting to have 590 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: the men rise up in the church, people that are 591 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 4: like y'all that go, let's give them a reason to 592 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: step into a church. No one, like you said, half 593 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 4: these people went and darkened the door of a church. 594 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 4: But the right person invited them that they trust because 595 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 4: they hunt with and they go, yeah, it's like all right, 596 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 4: I'll go to this stupid worship thing. 597 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: But Red Walker's there. We'll go, we'll go, we'll go. 598 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, it's it's the thing where it's like, oh 599 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 4: there's a there's a turkey hunting. 600 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 5: Of course, like all right, we'll do it. 601 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 4: You know. And then all of a sudden, the gospels 602 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 4: laid out from people that they respected, like a tony dungee. 603 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 4: It's like wait, you know, wait, what's he talking about? Like, 604 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,719 Speaker 4: I respect this dude because of the man he is. 605 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: I don't understand the faith he's talking about, but I 606 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: respect the man he is, So let me find out 607 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 4: more about that faith and if it's because of desperation 608 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: and people looking for something, and I tell people there 609 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: was this. The thing that got me to really kind 610 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: of why I do what I do is I heard 611 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 4: a podcast one time with an atheist and two Christians 612 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 4: that were like debating, and the atheist goes, if Jesus 613 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 4: really is the King of kings and the Lord of lords, 614 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 4: if he really is that, then how much do you 615 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: have to hate someone to not tell them? And I 616 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, Like that blows me away. 617 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: And so I think I think we're starting to see 618 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 4: people who were redeemed, you know, say a jelly roller 619 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: or something that we're like so like caught off guard 620 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 4: because of the life they've lived that they're like, oh 621 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 4: my gosh, I gotta tell everybody. 622 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: Good. 623 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 5: Look, it's changed my life, I tell everybody. 624 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 4: So there's an excitement in the culture, and I think 625 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 4: it's opened the doors for more people, like in country 626 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 4: music and you know, to go, Hey, I believe that too, 627 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 4: you know, like Nashville is full of country artists that 628 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 4: you would have never have known. But now that door 629 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: is opening. And you know when we played the Opry 630 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: sixteen times, now wow, and we don't change our set lists. Yep, 631 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 4: they play the same songs like we're not going to 632 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: hide it, you know. And I think that's that's the 633 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 4: thing is, just got there and be bold and loud. 634 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: You know where I'm going with this because I'm going 635 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: to kind of land a plane here for a second. 636 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: But when you talk about sharing your faith and being 637 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: bold and being courageous about that unashamed. Years ago, I 638 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 2: was sitting in the Hyatt I think it was the 639 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: Higher Regency hotel that's connected the Orlando Airport, and I 640 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: was invited to an event with fifty other kind of 641 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: next gen ministry guys. And we're sitting in a room 642 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: and we're under the teaching and the leadership of doctor 643 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: j Strack, who is ad your friend of ours from 644 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: Student Leadership University. And he gets up there and he's 645 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: talking about dry eyed Christianity like that. There's so many 646 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: Christians that are just so focused on their PhDs and 647 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: the cars that they drive and they're nice homes and 648 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 2: they're going to bed dry eyed while everyone else is 649 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 2: crying themselves to sleep. And he talks about stepping into 650 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: that moment. But then he said, don't you dare commit 651 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: the sin of the desert. And everybody in the room 652 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 2: is like, I've heard a lot of sins. I've never 653 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: heard of the sin of the desert. And he kind 654 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 2: of picked up on just what in the world we're 655 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: talking about here, and he said, the sin of the 656 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 2: desert is when you know where the water is, and 657 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: he refused to share. And so it's the idea of 658 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: what you're saying. Man, every day, let us be weary 659 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: of committing that sin, but let us be bold enough 660 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: to step into the moment, to step up to share 661 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: the good news of the Gospel. And I think we 662 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: do that best through this one phrase. When I was 663 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: in the deepest, darkest lofe most moment in my life, 664 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: so grateful that I had people and my dad and 665 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: my family to walk alongside of me through that. But 666 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 2: I'll never forget coming across a quote by a woman 667 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: named Nancy Lee de Moss. They shared it every time 668 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: I sit down with a worship artist. And this woman 669 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: said this, I have learned that no matter what I 670 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 2: come up against in this life, I can respond in 671 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: one of two ways. I can whine or I can worship. 672 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: And she said this, but it's impossible to worship without 673 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: giving things right for you. Man, it's not about what 674 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: we do or what we not do. It's about what's 675 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 2: been done. What's a final word of hope you have 676 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: that hat on Jesus saves about the gratitude that you 677 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 2: have in your heart every single day for what God 678 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 2: has done for you. 679 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 4: I would just say, looking if I had to look 680 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: back over the past twenty two years and what God 681 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 4: has done, like he's capable, he's constant, and he's proven 682 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: and he's able, and you're never too far gone. 683 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 5: That's not a real thing, you know. 684 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 4: And I think it's good to remar and remind yourself that, 685 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 4: especially people that have never been to church. You think 686 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 4: of it as maybe you know people that are too 687 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 4: good for you. We don't serve a God that is 688 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 4: in the middle of the paved road going hey, when 689 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 4: you get your junk together, I'll be right here. Like 690 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: he's in the mud, he's in he's in the woods 691 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 4: with us going. Man, just turn around, just look at me, 692 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 4: and I can get you back to the road. And 693 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 4: so I think my biggest thing just as a reminder 694 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 4: that that he's there and he's present, and all you 695 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 4: got to do is just look. 696 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: You know, in sports they say he see you, see you. 697 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 5: That's good. 698 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, God sees us, he does, and we see you. 699 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 3: We salute you, man, We appreciate the faithfulness. And may 700 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 3: your best your best days be ahead of you, not 701 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 3: behind you. Hey, you got a special guests going to 702 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 3: join you tonight. 703 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 5: Hey, let's know Olivia. Yeah, so she is. U got 704 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 5: a few songs out. 705 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 4: She's singing a Woman at the Well at a men's conference, 706 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 4: which is what I asked her to do, just to 707 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 4: see if it make her awkward. 708 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 5: And I'm just kidding. I just really love that song. 709 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 4: And she's she's a mom and she'll tell you more 710 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 4: about it. But she's got a serious ExM show that 711 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 4: you should tune into. Like when you talk about a 712 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 4: hard working woman in the music industry. That's why me 713 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: and my family were so excited to bring her out. 714 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 4: Like she loves the Lord, She's passionate about it and 715 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 4: spends a lot of time being passionate about it with 716 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 4: all the stuff that she does to get the word 717 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 4: out about Jesus. So yeah, I'm excited for people to 718 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: hear her of some people know her more than me 719 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,919 Speaker 4: because of the serious ExM show. So I was also like, hey, 720 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 4: maybe she'll talk about me on the radio and help 721 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 4: me out a little bitter. No, we're excited. 722 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 5: She's awesome and I can't wait for people to hear more. 723 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: Yes, and speaking of that, retwork in our audience, go 724 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: to find out more about you. I've always asked this question, 725 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 2: does it matter Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube where they go? 726 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 4: Nope, it does not matter wherever you stream music, stream it, 727 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 4: you know, and but just tell your friends. And the 728 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 4: biggest thing for me that I like on the on 729 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 4: that set on the business side is Instagram. 730 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 5: Like that's the one I'm on. 731 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 4: The label asked to run it and I was like, no, 732 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 4: I want to talk to the people. And so when 733 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 4: they d M me, I'm the one. 734 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 5: Talking back to them. 735 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 4: And I'm like, if I was a pastor, I wouldn't 736 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 4: be too cool for school, Like I'd be talking to 737 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 4: the people. So, you know, thinking of it in that 738 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 4: type of way, and so get Instagram just at Rett Walker, 739 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 4: go find me stream my music because one hundred percent 740 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 4: of the money I make from you streaming my music. 741 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 5: Goes to feed needy kids. Wow yet, but now I 742 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 5: feel bad. I mean my four media kids. That's what 743 00:36:47,760 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 5: I talk about. The way He wove. 744 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: It that makes me want to stream it even for 745 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: You are a blessing dude. You're a gift to the church. 746 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: You're a gift to us at Ignite. I can't wait 747 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: to see what God doesn't. 748 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 5: Invite it up tonight, Ben, Thank you, Thank. 749 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: You for joining me to our built different audience. I 750 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 2: just wanted to say thank you so much again for 751 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: just giving us your time today. I hope him pray 752 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 2: you are as encouraged as I was. Again, it is 753 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: a choice to rejoice no matter what you're going through 754 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: in this life. I pray that you would never forget 755 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 2: the faithfulness of God. He continues to draw near to 756 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 2: you as you continue to draw near to Him. Thanks 757 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 2: so much for joining us. We love being a part 758 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 2: of your life.