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Speaker 2: No thctocrats allowed, because we've got a country to say,

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Speaker 2: so let's get her teed up. Subdo triple eight nine

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Speaker 1: I M. Larry Elder. We are Salem. The news channel

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Speaker 1: did the Brown University killer shout Allahu Akbar before opening fire.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to the director of Jihad Watch to

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Speaker 1: talk about the rise in worldwide anti Semitism. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about the eight hundred pound elephant in the room Islam.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk to the founder of an

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Speaker 1: inner city academy that's improving academic outcomes right in gang

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Speaker 1: ridden Watts, California. How is the rhetoric of that radical

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Speaker 1: group FBI says, we're planning to put pipe bombs in

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Speaker 1: various areas in Los Angeles on New Year's Eve? How

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Speaker 1: is there rhetoric any different than that we're hearing from

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Speaker 1: people like Zoron mom Dami and ilon Omar. Dear democrats,

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Speaker 1: I know you're listening. Given that affordability is the number

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Speaker 1: one issue, how's it feel to be rooting against the economy?

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Speaker 1: Released documents from the DOJ showed that many FBI agents

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Speaker 1: felt that Biden did not have probable cause to conduct

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Speaker 1: that raid on mar A Lago. Also, other released documents

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Speaker 1: showed the FBI agents did think that there was evidence

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Speaker 1: of criminality. Remember the sale of the uranium one to

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Speaker 1: that Russian company. Well, the Canadian company that owns uranium

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Speaker 1: one donated millions to the Clinton Foundation prior to the

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Speaker 1: approval of the deal. And a lot of agents thought

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Speaker 1: that there was criminality there. But somehow, some way, whatever

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Speaker 1: investigation there might have been never happened. And yes, as

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Speaker 1: ilon Omar points out, Somali's in Minnesota do play taxes,

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Speaker 1: but not nearly enough to offset their costs to the

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Speaker 1: Minnesota tax players. All of this and more, triple eight

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Speaker 1: But first, I got a lot of feedback, a lot

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Speaker 1: of emails from people agreeing or disagreeing with what Trump said.

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Speaker 1: Some people angry about what Trump said. Some even said,

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Speaker 1: we're big mag of people. But what Trump said about

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Speaker 1: Rob Reiner was something that he should apologize for.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: We talk a lot about this yesterday. First of all,

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Speaker 1: don't expect any apology from this man. The man does

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Speaker 1: not apologize. Secondly, when I last had a conversation with him,

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Speaker 1: it was in his office in mar A Lago, and

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Speaker 1: I was told that not many people are invited to

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Speaker 1: be in that office with him, so it was very,

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Speaker 1: very flattering. We were to spend some time together and

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Speaker 1: I asked him, mister President, at two or three o'clock

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Speaker 1: in the morning, do you ever wish say to yourself?

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Speaker 1: Why did I do this? Why did I leave the

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Speaker 1: business I had? I said, at least for the first

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Speaker 1: couple of years, a third of your net worth went

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Speaker 1: down because people literally stopped buying your property, stop going

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Speaker 1: to your golf courses because of you, and then all

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Speaker 1: the law fare, of course, and being impeached twice. I said,

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Speaker 1: did you ever say to yourself? And he didn't answer directly,

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Speaker 1: So I waited a little while and I asked him

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Speaker 1: again and he didn't answer directly, and then we stood up.

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Speaker 1: He said, let's take some pictures. So we took some

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Speaker 1: pictures and I leaned over to him and I said,

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Speaker 1: you know, you didn't answer my question, and he smiled

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Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, I know, I didn't. Now, maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm putting too much into this, but I think that

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Speaker 1: was his way of saying, yes, there are times when

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Speaker 1: I said to myself, why did I do this?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this because of the grief you of getting,

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Speaker 1: including from Republicans, over saying he was not a fan

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Speaker 1: of Rob Reiner basically thought he was past his crime

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Speaker 1: that because of his Trump arrangement syndrome. What happened to

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Speaker 1: him happened. I don't know what it would be like

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Speaker 1: to spend ten years being called everything but a child

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Speaker 1: of God by so many people all over the world,

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Speaker 1: for the crime of trying to make America better, for

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Speaker 1: the crime of putting America first, for the crime of

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Speaker 1: talking about the poorest borders, for the crime of trying

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Speaker 1: to leave more money in the pockets of American people,

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Speaker 1: for the crime about having an America first foreign policy,

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Speaker 1: and the things that have been said about this guy.

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Speaker 1: Fetterman said, nobody should be called a fascist, nobody should

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Speaker 1: call a na say it's only one hitler, But this

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Speaker 1: man has been subjected to that kind of hateful rhetoric

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Speaker 1: for ten years. After the first assassination attempt, there seemed

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Speaker 1: to be for a day or two some sort of

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Speaker 1: realization that maybe, just maybe we should tone down the

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Speaker 1: rhetoric didn't last very long. Same thing with Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: didn't last very long. Two impeachments. By the way, Nancy

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Speaker 1: Pelosi gave a pretty extensive interview to USA Today where

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Speaker 1: she talked about her career cause she's retiring, and of

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Speaker 1: course she had some pretty vicious thing to say about Trump,

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Speaker 1: called him corrupt, criminal, undermining our democracy, all the things

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Speaker 1: that you would expect the enemy to say. She said,

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Speaker 1: she justified the two impeachments well, the phone call he

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Speaker 1: made to the Ukrainian president and then the the the

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Speaker 1: insurrection that was ans She called it an insurrection, no

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Speaker 1: question about it is green, sky is blue, and what

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Speaker 1: happened on January sixth was an insurrection, even though no

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Speaker 1: one was charged to the insurrection, even though the investigation

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Speaker 1: completely went away after the Supreme Court ruled that there

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Speaker 1: are certain official acts unofficial acts. You got John Eastman,

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Speaker 1: a friend of mine, a lawyer who represented Trump and

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Speaker 1: made the case that certain states could be challenged during

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Speaker 1: the certification procedure. Made the same argument that Democrats made

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Speaker 1: in two thousand when about a dozen others wanted it

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Speaker 1: challenge Florida, same argument they made two thousand and four

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Speaker 1: when around thirty of them wanted to challenge Ohio, same

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Speaker 1: argument they made in January twenty seventeen. If the Trump won,

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Speaker 1: they challenged nine states versus the six that Trump challenged.

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Speaker 1: Nobody accused them of engaging in any kind of insurrection,

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Speaker 1: of undermining the foundation of our republic. And then, of

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Speaker 1: course you have the Fannie Lewis investigation because of the

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Speaker 1: call he made to the Secretary of State where he said,

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Speaker 1: find me eleven thousands. Then they steal them somehow. That's

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Speaker 1: election interference, and that case has now gone super nova.

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Speaker 1: It's gone over. The investigation. As I mentioned January sixth,

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Speaker 1: insurrection went away, the document's investigation. Biden had more documents

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Speaker 1: and more places, without the power to declassify them because

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Speaker 1: he wasn't president when he had them, And the Special

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Speaker 1: Council said, what about Biden an elderly man with a

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Speaker 1: poor memory, so therefore we're not going to prosecute him,

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Speaker 1: but Trump is going to be prosecuted. That went away too,

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Speaker 1: And then you have this ridiculous criminal charge against Trump

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Speaker 1: for allegedly making a legal campaign contribution that violated state

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Speaker 1: law in New York because of the payment to Stormy

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Speaker 1: Daniel that he called a legal expense. Hillary and the

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Speaker 1: DNC paid for the Steele dossier, called a legal expense,

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Speaker 1: no criminal charge. But Trump is charged criminally and is convicted.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? And both Alvin Bragg Andlyticia James

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Speaker 1: ran promising to get Trump, which in my opinion is

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Speaker 1: a violation of the canons of ethics for a prosecutor.

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Speaker 1: A prosecutor is supposed to do justice, not get people.

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Speaker 1: And then you have that lawsuit by the Titia James

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Speaker 1: three four hundred million, how much of it is now

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Speaker 1: claiming that somehow he defrauded banks when banks were complaining

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Speaker 1: at all. So if you're done, Donald Trump, and you

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Speaker 1: had to endure all this stuff for ten years, you're

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Speaker 1: a little prickly. So can we give him a little

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Speaker 1: grace for not saying exactly what he should have said

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Speaker 1: regarding the death of Rob Reiner and his wife. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe that you give your opponents. You should be

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Speaker 1: giving your opponents bulletin board material, and that's what he did,

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Speaker 1: and it was an unforced error, But maybe you'd have

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Speaker 1: a little perspective. He's called a Nazi and a fascist

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Speaker 1: and an insurrectionist and Joe Biden based his whole campaign

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Speaker 1: on Donald Trump allegedly saying there were good Nazis and

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Speaker 1: bad Nazis on both sides in Charlottesville. When he said

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Speaker 1: no such thing. Even Jake Tapper of CNN, two and

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Speaker 1: a half years after the fact, said, you know, I

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Speaker 1: went back and look at the tape, and he was

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Speaker 1: not talking about the Nazis. He was talking about there

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Speaker 1: monument Puck Square, and Biden launched his whole campaign. His

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Speaker 1: there that he's supposedly mocked to this able reporter, and

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Speaker 1: they completely ignore. He said, I want you to peacefully

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Speaker 1: even they concluded that there is at least one life

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Speaker 1: saved for every life criminally taken by a firearm. They

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Speaker 1: also said the range of lives saved could be as

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Speaker 1: high as five hundred thousand, or two and a half

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Speaker 1: or three million, as opposed to roughly twenty thousand non

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Speaker 1: suicide gun homicides every year. But never ever do you

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Speaker 1: hear any of discussion. And of course people like John

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Speaker 1: Lott will say that what happened at Brown University took

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Speaker 1: place in a so called gun free zone where the

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Speaker 1: killer knew there would be no one there with a firearm.

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Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson refused to condemn what Trump said. Number fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Miss mister speaker, speaker, you could d you could you

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Speaker 1: condemned Trump's post about Rob.

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Speaker 4: Roy What do you?

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Speaker 6: What are your thoughts about what President Trump said about

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Speaker 6: Rob Reiner?

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Speaker 10: I don't.

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Speaker 11: I don't do ongoing commentary about everything that's said by

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Speaker 11: everybody in government every day. Are President you're trying to

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Speaker 11: bring down healthcare costs for the American people. They are

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Speaker 11: very important votes, very important issues, and that's what we're focusing.

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Speaker 1: A lot of your members are criticizing.

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Speaker 12: I gave the commentary this morning, and you offer.

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Speaker 1: Sorry now. As mentioned, Joe Biden launched his campaign for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty with a video where he falsely claim that

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Speaker 1: President Trump said there were good Nazis and bad nazi

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Speaker 1: on both sides in Charlottesville. Biden said I wasn't gonna

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Speaker 1: run until I heard those words that shocked the nation.

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Speaker 1: In other words, Biden ran and or had to tackle

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Speaker 1: President Trump's alleged racism. The Democrats are all about fighting racism.

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Speaker 1: Yet somebody like Jasmine Crockett, who is a rising star

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Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party going to run for Senate in Texas.

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Speaker 1: In a discussion about something that Byron Donald said where

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Speaker 1: he talked about black kids during Jim Crow were more

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Speaker 1: likely to be raised by a married mother and married

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Speaker 1: father than today, she said, well, because he's married to

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Speaker 1: a white woman, he thinks he's whitewash. From comments like that,

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Speaker 1: did anybody stick a mic in Antony Pelosi's face or

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Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer's face and say, would you care to comment

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Speaker 1: about the vulgar racist thing that one of your popular

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Speaker 1: members just now said. No, what a vulgar, disgusting thing

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Speaker 1: to say, nothing, no apology, no demand for the leadership

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Speaker 1: to tamp down the obvious racism. And remember this by

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Speaker 1: Ayanna Presley number seven.

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Speaker 13: If you are not prepared to come to that stable

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Speaker 13: and to represent that voice, don't come because we don't

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Speaker 13: need any more brown faces that don't want to be

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Speaker 13: a brown voice. We don't need black faces that don't

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Speaker 13: want to be a black voice. We don't need muslim

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Speaker 13: that don't want to be a Muslim voice.

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Speaker 7: We don't need queers that don't want to be.

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Speaker 13: A queer voice.

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Speaker 7: And if you're.

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Speaker 13: Worried about being marginalized and stereotyped police, don't even show

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Speaker 13: up because we need you to represent that voice.

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Speaker 1: That's Ayanna Presley, one of the members of the squad saying,

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Speaker 1: is only one way to be black, one way to

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Speaker 1: be brown, one way to be gay, and that is

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Speaker 1: to be progressive the way we want you to be.

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Speaker 1: Can you say bigotry? Can you say racism? Is there

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Speaker 1: any pushback from the leadership, any demands from reporters to

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Speaker 1: ask the leadership about remarks like that. No, Katie is

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Speaker 1: in San Diego. Katie, you're in the Larry of the show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling.

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Speaker 7: Heor Larry.

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Speaker 14: I love your show.

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Speaker 10: By the way, thank you.

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Speaker 14: I agree with you. Do you know what I was

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Speaker 14: telling your calls creating black President Trump doesn't write Hallmark

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Speaker 14: cars for a Libby, and we didn't vote him in

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Speaker 14: for that. You know, if I want baloney, I could

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Speaker 14: go to former President Obama. Get a nicely written BS

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Speaker 14: letter that has fail substance in it. And I've seen

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Speaker 14: after Charlie Kirk's assassination that the clubs are off. If

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Speaker 14: you're going to keep boxer, who's a boxer, he's going

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Speaker 14: to punch back.

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Speaker 10: Take it.

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Speaker 14: Just take it what?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Thank you for calling. I appreciate it. Meg is

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Speaker 1: in Burbank. Meg, you're in the Lario the show. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for calling. Hello, Meg, are you there? I guess

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Speaker 1: we've lost Meg. Meg thought his comments were inappropriate. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to give her a chance to make her argument,

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Speaker 1: but I guess she's gone. Rita is in Omaha.

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Speaker 8: Rita, you're in the Lario to show, Hi, Larry, regarding

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Speaker 8: mister Trump's talking about Derange, derangement syndrome with Rob Reiner's son.

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Speaker 15: He could have taken and used that as an opportunity

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Speaker 15: to say, that is why America, the Republicans are cleaning

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Speaker 15: up the drug situation here. That is a prime example

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Speaker 15: what happened to Rob Reiner and his wife of what

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Speaker 15: drugs can do. The Democrats led a lot of drug

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Speaker 15: cartels into our nation, over one hundred dollars in sentinel

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Speaker 15: deaths each year. And this is an example of the

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Speaker 15: Democrats and the people they let in and how this

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Speaker 15: could lead to murder because of the drug situation. That's

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Speaker 15: why I'm cleaning it up. He could have used it

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Speaker 15: as an opportunity to make the Republicans look good.

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Speaker 1: Rita. That is very very well done. I agree with

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Speaker 1: you he could have used that as an opportunity. But

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Speaker 1: I also agree with John Kennedy. A wise man once

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Speaker 1: said nothing, So if you're gonna do this, just distal

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Speaker 1: same thing at all. But again, to be all this upset,

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Speaker 1: given the hostile, vulgar things that have been said about

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Speaker 1: long hours for decades. My back and knees took the punishment.

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Speaker 1: I thought pain was just part of the trade, but

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Speaker 1: get back up again without thinking twice. End of quote.

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Speaker 1: Bill knows hard work. He knows pipes, tools and long

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Speaker 1: the program, we're going to talk to the director of

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Speaker 1: Gihad Watch about the rise of anti Semitism and its

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Speaker 1: relationship between is slash radical Islam, and next hour we're

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Speaker 1: gonna spend some time with the founder of an inner

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Speaker 1: city academy. I've talked to you many times about the

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Speaker 1: epidemic of fatherlessness in the inner city and the correct

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Speaker 1: the connection between that and dropping out of school. Eighty

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Speaker 1: five percent of black eighth graders in American and neither

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Speaker 1: read nor do math at grade level. The academic level

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Speaker 1: of black and Brown students here in California is abysmal.

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Speaker 1: We're I talk to somebody who's trying to do something

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Speaker 1: about it. Michael is in La Michael, you're in the

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Speaker 1: Larry Old Show.

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Speaker 16: Hey, thanks for taking my call. I've been listening to

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Speaker 16: you for about a couple of decades now ever since

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Speaker 16: you've been in this time slot. Great great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 16: Anyway, I told your call screener I was calling about

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Speaker 16: the Brown shooting sun and in real time Brown University

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Speaker 16: has been sanitizing their website of the person that has

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Speaker 16: been suspected. He's a research assistant there in one of

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Speaker 16: their social study programs. So I thought that was very

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Speaker 16: interesting and curious. But what's your take.

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Speaker 1: On that, Well, I'll ask you, Michael. Has he been

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Speaker 1: named as a person of interest.

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Speaker 16: I haven't heard officially, No, but your call screater did

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Speaker 16: say someone was arrested, and she did say her name,

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Speaker 16: his name excuse me, pardon, and so it was that

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Speaker 16: same person.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you guys give me an

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Speaker 1: update on that. I haven't heard that somebody has been arrested.

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Speaker 1: There is some conflicting information about whether or not the

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Speaker 1: shooter yelled a lahu acbar. Laura Lumer, who's very controversial,

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Speaker 1: says it it's true. Newsweek's it's unclear, But I've not heard.

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Speaker 1: Has there been a person of interests been named in

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Speaker 1: the connection with the Brown University shootings? If there has been,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Let me just check real fans.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Let's see has a person been

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Speaker 1: idd shooting victim ideed? No, I don't think so. But

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Speaker 1: if we learn anything differently, I will of course inform you.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s A G E. Triple

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Speaker 1: do about the epidemic of folowlessness? What to do about

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Speaker 1: poor k through twelve schools? Someone is doing something about it.

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Speaker 1: Right in the heart of gang written Watts, right outside

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Speaker 1: of Los Angeles, Triple eight nine seven one seven two

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Speaker 1: four to three Triple eight nine seven one s A. G. E.

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Speaker 1: And the director of jihad watched later on in the

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Speaker 1: I am Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel. Next hour,

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk to the director of Jihad Watch

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Speaker 1: about the rides in worldwide anti Semitism. But first it

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Speaker 1: is my pleasure to welcome the founder and project director

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Speaker 1: of an organization called Strive. A few weeks ago, I

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Speaker 1: did a ride along with a buddy of mine I

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Speaker 1: named Ron Salisbury. Ron Salisbury is a longtime restaurant tour

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Speaker 1: he owns, among other things, Elcholo. He said, Larry, let's

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Speaker 1: go on a ride along. And I've gone on a

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Speaker 1: few rides along before. I think I the ploral right,

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Speaker 1: the loong, isn't it. I've gone on a few before,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't tell me. However, we were going to

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Speaker 1: go and drop in to look at an organization called Strive.

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Speaker 1: He just told me it's going to be a ride along.

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Speaker 1: We were in Watts, which is a very heavily gang infested,

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Speaker 1: kind of crime infested area of Los Angeles. Everybody knows Watts.

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Speaker 1: And we go to this organization called Strive and I

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Speaker 1: meet the director who is with me right now. His

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Speaker 1: name is Jim t trou Jim, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming in for having us. So I'm going to

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Speaker 1: clumsily describe what Strive is. It's an academy where kids

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Speaker 1: go to have additional schooling from their public schools. That's it.

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Speaker 1: And the level of academics, math reading is much higher

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Speaker 1: than the level that they're trying to attain in the

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Speaker 1: public schools. So they're getting an additional education on top

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Speaker 1: of the education they're getting K through twelve in the

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Speaker 1: public schools. More than that, you're teaching more and ethics

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Speaker 1: and civility. And these kids were so polite and so smart,

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't believe what I was watching. How many

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Speaker 1: kids do you have?

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Speaker 4: Were serving about one hundred and fifty kids a day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how do you get the kids?

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Speaker 4: They come from the neighborhood and from the local schools,

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Speaker 4: Catholic schools, private schools, charter schools, and public.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming a mother, a father, a grandparent, somebody wants

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Speaker 1: these kids to go to where you are going.

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Speaker 4: Yes, we have a long waiting list.

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Speaker 1: Yes. And their motive is I think my kid is

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Speaker 1: getting a substandard education in K through twelve. My motive

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Speaker 1: is my kids aren't behaving properly. What's the motive for

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Speaker 1: somebody to come to you?

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Speaker 4: You got it right?

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Speaker 1: All that, and why am I bothering interviewing him? I

653
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Speaker 1: just interviewed myself.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: We're so some patical on so many issues here that

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Speaker 4: I asked the same question. Like I said, we have

657
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Speaker 4: a long waiting list. You were trying to describe us

658
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Speaker 4: earlier as an academy. The subtitle we call ours was

659
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Speaker 4: a mini campus for inner city children. We've tried to

660
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Speaker 4: create an Ivy League feel in the inner city, and

661
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Speaker 4: I think we've accomplished it more of a sanctuary. So

662
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Speaker 4: it's more of a sanctuary and a safe place where

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Speaker 4: kids can come and finally learn. I don't have to

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Speaker 4: go over all the statistics with you about the schools

665
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Speaker 4: in that neighborhood, but we've overcome it. We have a

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Speaker 4: recipe at Strive that's overcome it.

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Speaker 1: When was Strive founded.

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Speaker 4: The co founder and I Don Anderson. We started in

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: What caused you to start it?

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Speaker 4: It's an interesting story. I don't know if you read

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Speaker 4: it on our history, but I was at that time.

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Speaker 4: I was kind of a young pup manager in luxury

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Speaker 4: hotels Beverly Hills and Palm Springs area. And one of

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Speaker 4: the people I got to know in the hotel business

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Speaker 4: was Stevie Wonder And at that time I was also

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Speaker 4: a volunteer at the Braille Institute. And to keep the

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Speaker 4: story short, I got the two of them together and

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Speaker 4: Stevie said, yes, I'll give them my phone number and

680
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Speaker 4: I'll do a fundraiser for broilns to it once a year.

681
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Speaker 4: Set the whole thing up at the hotel and Stevie

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Speaker 4: and when I took it to Braille, they said no thanks,

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Speaker 4: which I never to this day we don't know why.

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Speaker 4: Never understood it. And I thought, well, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 4: the connection I have in these luxury hotels and go

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Speaker 4: do something of my own. So that's how Strive was born.

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Speaker 4: Now you are from where Nebraska? I was born in Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: What ruch to California?

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Speaker 4: Well, I was just born there, was raised all over

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Speaker 4: the West with my dad's job. He was in the

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Speaker 4: retail business, and they, my mom and dad, who are

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Speaker 4: incredibly responsible for the existence of Strive.

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Speaker 1: So I had to say thank you to them.

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Speaker 4: Came out with his job in my high school year,

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Speaker 4: my senior year, and then I got into the hotel

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Speaker 4: business right after that.

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Speaker 1: What brought you to this? Why do you care?

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Speaker 12: What?

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Speaker 1: What made you want to do this?

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Speaker 4: Well, like I said, it was mom and dad. We

701
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Speaker 4: were in Montana, where I was primarily raised. We were

702
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Speaker 4: we had foster children. One of them was a little

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Speaker 4: blind girl, so that's what brought on the braill int

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Speaker 4: the to work. And I just developed a love of

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Speaker 4: kids from my mom because she has this. She's just

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Speaker 4: one of those amazing people like I know your mother was,

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Speaker 4: But my mom had a gift with children, and I

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Speaker 4: guess I inherited that.

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Speaker 1: Why Watts, Why the inner city?

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Speaker 4: Well, when we began to do the research back in

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Speaker 4: eighty nine about where the need was the highest, we

712
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Speaker 4: were looking at all the research about crime rates, schools,

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Speaker 4: poverty rates, and the usual statistics, and that led us

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Speaker 4: to Watts. Unfortunately, this was in eighty nine ninety.

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Speaker 1: When I went on the ride along. I'm driving along

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Speaker 1: through Botts. I grew up in South Centrol, as you know,

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Speaker 1: but it wasn't Watts. I grew up in Crenshaw, Florence area,

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Speaker 1: which was much safer at the time than Watts than Compton.

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Speaker 1: But I'm on the right along and I think just

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Speaker 1: about every house, almost every house had burglar bars on it.

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Speaker 1: And the officers told me that many of the parents

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Speaker 1: put their t kids in the house at night and

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Speaker 1: do not let them out because it's too dangerous. Also

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Speaker 1: dangerous walking to and from school. And I asked you

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Speaker 1: about the safety factor of Strive. Talk to us about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, you saw that we have. You walk into the

727
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Speaker 4: lobby and it's like coming into a first class hotel,

728
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Speaker 4: high high ceilings, jazz music, nice warm colors that are

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Speaker 4: soothing and sanctuario for the kids. And we hear this

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Speaker 4: all the time, Larry, for years and years. We hear

731
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Speaker 4: when people come in they say where am I? I

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Speaker 4: can't believe they look around, they don't know where they are.

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Speaker 1: Everything was so clean.

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Speaker 4: And when you said that, the thing that struck you

735
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Speaker 4: the most was the way the kids would come up

736
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Speaker 4: and talk to you confidently and with Gusto, that is

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Speaker 4: what we're working towards more than anything, because we feel

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Speaker 4: the proper attitude and confidence will lead to the rest

739
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Speaker 4: of the success.

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Speaker 1: So I mentioned the area heavily gang infested, as you

741
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Speaker 1: well know. Do the gang bangers leave you alone? Are

742
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: they did? They think of Strive as an oasis and

743
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Speaker 1: they just don't interfere.

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Speaker 4: They do now. And I don't know if you read

745
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 4: it in our history, but I lived on that property

746
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Speaker 4: back in the mid nineties. It's a long story about

747
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Speaker 4: the finances when we first got the property donated. I

748
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Speaker 4: lived there for about a year and a half, long

749
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Speaker 4: before it looks the way it does now. And I

750
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Speaker 4: did have some problems. They were breaking in and they

751
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Speaker 4: kept stealing while I was going off doing my day job,

752
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Speaker 4: my night job. And I finally called in the shot

753
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Speaker 4: callar and walked them around and showed them and there

754
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: was nothing more to steal, nothing.

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Speaker 1: Left to describe what a shot caller is, well, they.

756
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Speaker 4: Don't even basically the one that called the shots for

757
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 4: the local games and brought them in and said, look,

758
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to do this for the kids in this neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: You keep coming in and tearing the place down and

760
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Speaker 4: ripping it up, and he put the word out and

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Speaker 4: that was the end of that. That was the end

762
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Speaker 4: of the break ins. Now, that was back in the

763
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Speaker 4: late nineties, so we've had a lot of history since then.

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Speaker 4: But no, we don't have any problems now. The word

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Speaker 4: is out.

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Speaker 1: As you said, where does the money come from government money?

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Speaker 4: All private funding, foundations, several individuals that were with us

768
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Speaker 4: from the very beginning, and saw Don and I struggle

769
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Speaker 4: from the very beginning, and we finally want them over.

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Speaker 4: And now thirty five years later, as you may have

771
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Speaker 4: seen from that impact report and the academic gains, our

772
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 4: kids make it strive. They're sitting there and going, Wow,

773
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Speaker 4: we're so glad we stuck with you all those years.

774
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Speaker 4: But I will emphasize no government money. So many nonprofits

775
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Speaker 4: in that neighborhood take government money, and everything gets whittled down,

776
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 4: The moral message gets whittled down, the standards, everything gets eroded.

777
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Speaker 4: And we don't allow that. It strive and again it

778
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Speaker 4: comes out in our data.

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Speaker 1: That it works. You already answered my question, but I'm

780
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Speaker 1: going to ask you why are you so adamant about

781
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Speaker 1: not taking government money?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it too much red tape. I don't want

783
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Speaker 4: to have to answer any of the congress people or

784
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 4: any of the local city council. We want to do

785
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Speaker 4: what we do. It strive because it works. And this

786
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Speaker 4: whole you know, this whole thing lately, I'll get off

787
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: the sete objectives. Probably this whole thing lately. With all

788
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: the cutbacks and the government shut down. Not too long ago,

789
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: a lot of nonprofits were riding in complaining about they're

790
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 4: losing funding, and they're losing this, and they're losing that,

791
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 4: and I'm thinking they should have gone our route, and

792
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 4: a lot of them aren't able to continue their philosophy.

793
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Speaker 4: And that's the other thing about not taking government money

794
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: is we can do what we want inside our walls.

795
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Speaker 4: And especially when it's working for the kids, why not

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Speaker 4: that's the way to go.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the kids show up at what time and

798
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: how long? It's the evening.

799
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Speaker 4: The kids start showing up around two o'clock every day.

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Speaker 4: We call ourselves an after school school. And like I said,

801
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 4: I'll keep performing. Back to our data, we are out

802
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 4: performing in a short, compressed afternoon with our kids. We're

803
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 4: out performing every school locally except for one private Catholic

804
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 4: school that we partner with. But our kids are out

805
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 4: performing all the local schools, charter, public, and all the

806
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Speaker 4: private wants to except for one Catholic school.

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Speaker 1: So the day starts at two o'clock and goes into how.

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Speaker 4: Long till six o'clock and sometimes eight o'clock at night

809
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 4: when we have choir, we have some things are going

810
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 4: on Saturdays at times. And our long term goal, Arry

811
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Speaker 4: is to become a private school. So that's after you

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Speaker 4: saw the construction of Strive. After that's done in a

813
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: few months, then the next chapters would begin to think

814
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Speaker 4: about the private school.

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Speaker 1: We come back. I want to talk to you about

816
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: the facility, how big it is, what your goals are,

817
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: and about the data showing the academic improvement that these

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Speaker 1: kids are now experiencing. Triple eight nine seven one s

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Speaker 1: eight GE Triple eight nine seven one seven two four

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Speaker 1: to three. I am Larry Elder, Do not leave town.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s a g E Triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four three. I am

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Speaker 1: Larry Yelder. We are still on the news channel. Christmas

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Speaker 1: is just nine days away and thanks to men and

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Speaker 1: women just like you, it's going to be a very

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Speaker 1: special one for a thousand of children with a mom

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Speaker 1: or a dad in prison. As of late yesterday, our

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Speaker 1: network wide donations for angel Tree's closing in on four

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. But even at this late date, your

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Speaker 1: donation of just thirty dollars or more can still reach

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Speaker 1: one more child who needs a Christmas blessing. If you

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Speaker 1: join my annual Angel Tree campaign, a bornal girl with

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Speaker 1: mom or dad in prison will receive a gift, a

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Speaker 1: personalized note from his or her parent, plus a brand

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Speaker 1: new Bible. Every year, in good economies and in bad ones,

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Speaker 1: our listeners open their hearts and their wallets to help

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Speaker 1: kids they will never meet this side of heaven. Your

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Speaker 1: generosity always blows me away, so I'm asking you again

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Speaker 1: right now. Go to my website Larryelder dot com, click

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Speaker 1: on the Angel Tree banner at the top of the page,

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Speaker 1: or you can simply phone your generous donation to eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight two six twenty eight fifty five. That's eight

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Speaker 1: is in your hands to help us bless these wonderful,

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Speaker 1: deserving kids on Christmas morning next week. Eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: my website Larryilder dot com and you'll see the Angeltry

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Speaker 1: campaign button at the very top. I guess it's Jim Tetrou.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's French. Yes, it is my mom and

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Speaker 1: dad France.

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00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I guess biological father was French.

853
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and he's the founder and director of Strive.

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00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: Why did you call it.

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00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 4: Strive when we thought that one word summed it all up? Yeah,

856
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 4: Come to find out, there's a lot of strives out there,

857
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Speaker 4: but we just love that word, and it also sums

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Speaker 4: up our philosophy at Strive. We tell we as we

859
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Speaker 4: asked the kids to adopt a philosophy of work and

860
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: study hard and then a little extra, which, of course

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Speaker 4: is the definition of strife.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier, Jim, how disciplined these kids were, how

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Speaker 1: polite they were, how respectful they were. How do you

864
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Speaker 1: pull that off?

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Speaker 4: We have a working philosophy at Strive. You may have

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00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 4: seen it on our walls. It says we work with

867
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Speaker 4: the willing, and we learned Don and I years and

868
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Speaker 4: years ago. And of course we're in our thirty fifth year.

869
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: Way way back in the early years, we used to

870
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 4: pretty much let anybody come in under any situation, any

871
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 4: family circumstance. And I tell you what we learned the

872
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 4: hard way that that's not the way to go. Because,

873
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 4: as you know, in these schools down here, there's so

874
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 4: many kids and so many families that want to be there,

875
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: want to learn something, want to improve their lives. But

876
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: they go into these schools and there's utter chaos. And

877
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 4: we said, we're not going to have that at Strive.

878
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 4: So we work with the willing accomplishes a lot of

879
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 4: that at Strive.

880
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: What happens to the occasional boy or girl that just

881
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: won't do it? Undisciplined, rude?

882
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: They have time, they have we have. We give them

883
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks to try. We have talks with

884
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 4: our staff. We even have a counselor on staff that

885
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 4: they can talk to. So we do a thing what

886
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: we call we swarm them, not only new kids, but

887
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: existing children that have been there for years, where we

888
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 4: just swarm them with every possible resource we can, staffing,

889
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: program resources, anything we possible we can, so we give

890
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: them every possible chance to make it work and I'll

891
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 4: tell you, we've had kids that come in over the

892
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 4: years who will walk around and have the attitude and

893
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 4: act like they don't want to be there, and they'll

894
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 4: walk around, and ten minutes into the walk they start

895
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 4: to warm up because they're looking around and they're seeing

896
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 4: the way the kids are and they're seeing the atmosphere

897
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 4: we've provided for them, and they warm up. A great

898
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: many of them warm up, and they come in and

899
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 4: they're converted. They want to be there.

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00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: To what degree are the parents involved in the school?

901
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 10: Not a lot.

902
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: Their job is to drop the.

903
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 3: Get them there.

904
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 4: Yes, but we apply the work with the willing to

905
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 4: them too. We do have several parent meetings per year.

906
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 4: We don't it's not a handout program. So they pay

907
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: seventy five dollars for the year. That's all, but not

908
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 4: a lot in that sense, except for the work with

909
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 4: the willing. So we do do a lot of counseling

910
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: with our staff and our and our family therapists that

911
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 4: will talk to them if needed about what's going on

912
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 4: in the house.

913
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: And let's talk about staff. How many staff, how many teachers?

914
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 4: We're about twenty staff right now, full time and part time.

915
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: We're a small organization is still very small.

916
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: Are the salaries comparable to what the public schools are

917
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: paying the teachers?

918
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 4: I would say, again I'm a little bit biased, but

919
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 4: I would say it's a little bit better. I think

920
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: we pay even hourly. We pay better. We realize and

921
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 4: we've come to know over the years that getting good

922
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: qualified people that love the kids to come down to

923
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 4: that neighborhood is a big, big challenge to drive to

924
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 4: that zip code. So we pay a little bit more.

925
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: I believe. Talk to me about the facility building.

926
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, we called a mini campus for

927
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 4: inner city children. It's about we own half the block now.

928
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 4: In the early nineties, we had the first two of

929
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: three properties donated to Strive by two adjoining property owners

930
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 4: did not know each other, so again even that was providence.

931
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 4: We ended up buying the third property about ten years

932
00:54:54,600 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 4: ago from the Aminsen Foundation helped us with that. We

933
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 4: have plans to develop the rest of the block over

934
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 4: the next few.

935
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: Years, and there was a lot of construction going on

936
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: when I was there.

937
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: Yes, we're building. We've been able to expand, unable to

938
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 4: expand up the block yet, so we're building upwards. We're

939
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 4: building a three story building right now. We call the

940
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 4: Villa affectionately, and we're looking we're looking very forward to

941
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 4: opening that up and probably in March or April.

942
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: As far as you know, Jim, is there another organization

943
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: like Strive in Los Angeles in the inner city?

944
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: There aren't that many, period. There are a handful. I

945
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 4: don't know if I probably shouldn't name their names, but

946
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: there's I can only think of four or five other

947
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 4: after school type programs in La. In LA there's a

948
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 4: few of them. I think there's one that you used

949
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 4: to be affiliated with, and that's one of them. But

950
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 4: I can guarantee you this, there are none that are

951
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: doing what Strive is doing. And that's not a brag

952
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 4: because I'm the founder. We get dozens of visitors and

953
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 4: people from foundations and private donors that come in to Strive,

954
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 4: and they come in when our kids are there. They

955
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 4: come in and meet the kids, and they will email

956
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: me an hour or two after leaving Strive, or email

957
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 4: me or call me the next day and say, pretty

958
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 4: much what you said, I have never been. They'll say

959
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 4: they tour nonprofits all over the city of LA but

960
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 4: never have they gone in where first, second, third grade

961
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 4: kids are coming up, shaking their hands, asking them where

962
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 4: they're from, how do they like Strive, and having grown

963
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 4: up conversations with them. So we put a lot of

964
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 4: stock in that type of interaction with our kids and

965
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 4: our donors.

966
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: Jim, is it K through twelve?

967
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 4: It's K through college. Actually, the police officer, one of

968
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 4: the police officers, took me on the ride along. John Coughlin,

969
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 4: he established anation a scholarship program about twenty years ago,

970
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: and he's very humble, so he probably didn't tell you

971
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 4: about that. The short version is we merged his Operation

972
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 4: Progress Scholarship into Strive about a year ago, and so

973
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: now between so it's really first grade through college, and

974
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 4: we have about one hundred and thirty kids on scholarship

975
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 4: right now in private schools and in universities all across

976
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 4: the country thanks to John Coughlin.

977
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: You have been around now for how many years old?

978
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: This is our thirty fifth year.

979
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: So you must have a number of success stories. People

980
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: have gone on and done great things. Talk to us

981
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: about some of those success stories.

982
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 4: Oh boy, we have lots of them. We didn't actually

983
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 4: start working with children in the facility until two thousand

984
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: and that's the testament to the struggles we had through

985
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 4: the nineties. You remember what the nineties were like, So

986
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 4: we didn't actually begin to work with kids of two thousand,

987
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 4: but we have. One of the success stories is we

988
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 4: have several of them working at Strive now who were first,

989
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: second third graders at Strive when they were children. I'm

990
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 4: not gonna lie to you, like I think a lot

991
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 4: of nonprofits will tell you that every one of the

992
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 4: kids that comes through the program is going to be

993
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 4: a superstar and go to That isn't the numbers in

994
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 4: the inner city. Sadly.

995
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: We'll pick this up in just a second. One my

996
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: guess is Jim T. Trow Uh. He is the founder

997
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: and project director of Strive. By the way, the website

998
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: is Strive s t r i v E dash l

999
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: a dot org. If you'd like to make a donation,

1000
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: Strive dash l a dot org. We come back. We're

1001
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: going to talk about some of the success stories and

1002
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: about the data that you were bombarding me with when

1003
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: I was there. Triple eight ninety seven one s a

1004
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: g E. Larry Elder.

1005
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 16: Wait the world.

1006
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 7: To be.

1007
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: Let the music The Triple eight nine seven one s

1008
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: A G E. Triple eight nine seven, one seven, two

1009
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 1: four three. I am Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel,

1010
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: and my injd O guest is Jim T.

1011
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: Trow.

1012
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: He is the founder and project director of Strive Again.

1013
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: The website is Strive dash l a dot org. We

1014
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: were talking about some of the success stories in your

1015
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: in your thirty some odd years.

1016
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, I said, we had a woman that

1017
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 4: worked for us until recently named Jennifer, and she went

1018
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 4: through the scholarship program, and just a couple of years

1019
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 4: ago graduated from Boston College and came back to LA

1020
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 4: worked at Strive and then went to I think so yes, yeah,

1021
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: and then went to just last year, finished her master's

1022
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 4: GREA at USC and she went through the operation progress

1023
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 4: the scholarship program.

1024
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: So that's one of them.

1025
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: You also met a girl named Celeste, a young woman

1026
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: named Celeste who was just finishing up her nursing program

1027
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: at Northeastern in Boston. And so we have a lot

1028
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 4: of stories like that. We could sit here and probably

1029
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 4: talk about it all day long if I could remember

1030
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 4: the names. I've got two goddaughters that came to Strive.

1031
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 4: Started coming to Strive in probably two thousand and three,

1032
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 4: so twenty more than twenty years ago. And they I

1033
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 4: won't even get into their situation, their living situation. Fell

1034
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: in love with those girls and they moved up to

1035
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 4: Portland a few years back when they hit high school age.

1036
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 4: The mother made one of the wisest choices she ever made,

1037
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 4: even though it broke my heart, but she made the

1038
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: choice to get him out of South LA. She took

1039
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 4: them to Portland. I consider them a success story. So

1040
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 4: lots and lots of stories like that.

1041
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: You don't have the name, any names, but you started

1042
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: to talk about their living situation. What did you mean.

1043
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 4: Their home situations? What? There's an old seagarism, the old

1044
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: rocket I wish I didn't know now what I didn't

1045
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 4: know then, and getting into the and starting striking at

1046
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 4: the wind, and it fits so appropriately. You get to

1047
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 4: know what's going on in the homes and in the schools,

1048
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 4: and on the streets and in the alleys and in

1049
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 4: the neighborhood with so many of these families, and it's heartbreaking.

1050
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: And yet we ask them to come to these schools

1051
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 4: and pay attention and to somehow to develop focus when

1052
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 4: they listen to God only knows what all.

1053
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: Night long, not all of them.

1054
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 4: There's some amazing, wonderful families that are doing all the

1055
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: right things in their homes, but they still are breathing

1056
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: in the fumes of failure of the neighborhood around them,

1057
01:00:58,640 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: and they still have to put up with all the

1058
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 4: other the chaos and the nonsense. So it's just what

1059
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 4: you know about going on, what's going on in our homes.

1060
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 4: And I have to bring this up to the situation

1061
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 4: with the fatherlesseners is I'm gonna say it's probably one

1062
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 4: of the chief one of the biggest problems down there.

1063
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 4: And we've learned that in our thirty five years, so

1064
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 4: it's something we work on at striving.

1065
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: So you guys are almost like a football coach as

1066
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: a basketball coaches for some of these kids, kind of

1067
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: like father figures, I guess.

1068
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 15: So.

1069
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: I remember some of the kids in my school were

1070
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: teased because they spoke proper English the way all your

1071
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: kids do that they are quote trying to act white close.

1072
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: Are your kids experiencing any of that? I think?

1073
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 4: So what's the term for the Hispanic kids? Janet just

1074
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 4: said it the other day, whitewashing. Oh she said she

1075
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 4: was accused of that. She was being grown up because

1076
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 4: she tried to aspire and elevate her and she said

1077
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 4: they were Some people would ask her, why are you

1078
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 4: whitewashing everything? That's the term for Hispanics. I don't think

1079
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 4: we get a lot of that at Strive because we

1080
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 4: don't put up with that nonsense. You come in the door,

1081
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 4: people know right away we're a different type of facility

1082
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: and that the nonsense isn't allowed, whereas it is allowed.

1083
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: At the schools down there.

1084
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 4: So it sets the tone for what type of program

1085
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Speaker 4: we have and the message that we deliver, and they

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01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 4: don't sign up unless they're going to take it seriously.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, they have to sign a contract. The

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Speaker 4: parents and the children coming in have to sign a

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Speaker 4: contract that says that we work with a willing and

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Speaker 4: you're going to rise to that.

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Speaker 1: So over the years, in the thirty some odd years

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Speaker 1: that you have been doing this, the students who graduate

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Speaker 1: do they typically leave, want leave that area and go

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Speaker 1: somewhere else in the country.

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Speaker 4: It's a funny thing there too. So many of them

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Speaker 4: are conflicted. They don't want to leave the neighborhood, or

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Speaker 4: they have family or cultural reasons why they feel bound

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Speaker 4: to that zip code. And all we want them to

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Speaker 4: do is consider and I've frequently in my talks, I'll

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Speaker 4: show them a map of the country and I'll show

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Speaker 4: them all the opportunities that are out there. So that's

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Speaker 4: a struggle for a lot of family. In fact, we

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Speaker 4: have a student right now, one of our success stories,

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Speaker 4: just started at Loyola Marra Mount University just a couple

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Speaker 4: of months ago, and we just arranged through a donor

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Speaker 4: to get her on house on campus housing. And she's

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Speaker 4: trying to figure out a way to tell her parents

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Speaker 4: that because she doesn't think they'll let her move six

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Speaker 4: or seven miles east west of here just to go

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Speaker 4: live on site. So there are cultural challenges like that.

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Speaker 1: You were telling me the percentage of these kids that

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Speaker 1: read above grade level. Talk to me about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're hitting the numbers and outperforming all the schools locally. Currently,

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Speaker 4: seventy five percent of our eighth graders are achieving grade

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Speaker 4: level reading, whereas the national average is only thirty percent.

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Speaker 4: And that's not the local average. That's a national average.

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Speaker 4: The local average around Strive is about seventeen or eighteen percent,

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01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 4: and we're hitting seventy five percent. So I think those

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Speaker 4: numbers show you that our recipe works.

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Speaker 1: We come back. I want to ask you a question

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01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: that you'll probably be too humble to answer, and I

1122
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: want to know, is it the program or is it

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01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: the people, the personnel, the staff that's doing this? Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that in just a second. Yes, quickly.

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Speaker 1: To Ukraine, and for elderly Jews like Oga, it can

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Speaker 1: be deadly. Oga is seventy nine years old. She lives

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Speaker 1: in a small village where there's no indoor plumbing, no bathroom,

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Speaker 1: no reliable access to heating. Each day she must pump

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Speaker 1: water from a well, even in sub zero temperatures to

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Speaker 1: use the restroom. She must walk through the bitter cold

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01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: to reach an outhouse. Her meager pension is not enough

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Speaker 1: to cover food, medicine, and heat. Poverty threatens to consume

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Speaker 1: her life. But when all seemed lost, Oga received a

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Speaker 1: nourishing food box, emergency lighting, and a warm blanket. This

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01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: aid is a life saving gift for someone like Olga.

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Speaker 1: The visit from Fellowship staff lifted her spirits and reminded

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Speaker 1: her she is not forgotten. Today, thousands of elderly Jews

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Speaker 1: across Ukraine and the former Soviet Union faced similar struggles.

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Speaker 1: Their homes are agile against the cold, Their resources are scarce,

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01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: their health fragile. For them, winter is not just a season,

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Speaker 1: but a fight for survival. To learn more, go to

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Speaker 1: URGENTIFCJ dot org. One word URGENTIFCJ dot org.

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Speaker 4: And a good.

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Speaker 1: One s A G A triple eight nine seventy one,

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Speaker 1: seventy two four three Larry Elder's Salem News Channel, And

1146
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Speaker 1: we're coming to you from the Relief Factor Studio. Do

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01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: not forget your Relief Factor eight hundred four relief eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and number four relief or visit relief factor dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's relief Factor dot com. Jim years ago, I'm watching

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01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: sixty minutes and there was a woman named Collins. I

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01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: think her first name is Lisa. I could get be

1152
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: wrong about that, but she had a school not unlike

1153
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: yours in Chicago where she was just outperforming the the

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: puppet schools with just a fraction of the money that

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01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 1: the puppet schools were spending. And I asked myself, is

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01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: it her drive and making sure the kids aspired a

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01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: high level of learning. You can do it if you

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01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: want to do that, don't buy into the fetism, or

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01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: is it her so I have the same question. When

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01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: I was at Strive. You guys are all bouncing around, enthusiastic, happy.

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01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: Nobody seemed to be dreading work. You seem to love

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01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: what you're doing. So is it finding people like that

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01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: that's really the big factor or is it the structure

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01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: in what you're doing or combination of both.

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Speaker 4: It's a combo.

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad you said that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, definitely throw a lifeline.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. No, it's a combo. But you have

1170
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 4: to come with a thread or the foundation of the idea,

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01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 4: and then you have to find staff who Marvi Collins

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01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 4: with her name, well, that's right, Marvick Collins, all that name.

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01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 4: You've got to have the foundational idea and we down

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01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 4: and I certainly do it Strive And then we've brought

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Speaker 4: in staff over the years who agree fundamentally with our

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01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 4: the way we do things, the work with the willing,

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01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 4: and all the other things that make it work. Because

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01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 4: we have had people over the years that we that

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01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: have come in and tried to undermine our message and

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01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 4: tried to undermine the program incredibly. So it's hard to

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01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 4: believe that people will do that, but they will. They'll

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01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 4: put their ideology over reality. So so it's working for us.

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Speaker 1: For what you said the combo, I noticed when you

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01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: walk in, there's something on the wall. Mothers make boys,

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01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: fathers make men. And you also have this also in Spanish,

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01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: in Spanish, which raises a couple of questions. It reminds

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Speaker 1: me of a statement that was once made by Frederick Douglass,

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 1: the Great Emancipater. He said, it is easier to build

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Speaker 1: strong children than to repair broken men. Right, And it

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Speaker 1: seems to me this is what you're what you're saying here,

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01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: that's right.

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Speaker 4: And again I think it's a testament to how powerful

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01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 4: the program is that we have that in the lobby

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Speaker 4: of Strife, where every parent that brings their child in,

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Speaker 4: there's their parents from the inner city, many of whom

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Speaker 4: fit that. And I haven't been slapped or punched on

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Speaker 4: once yet, so they tend to agree with it, even

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Speaker 4: if grudgingly. They know we're doing the right thing with

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Speaker 4: their kids. They know that we love them, They see

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Speaker 4: the affection we have for them with their kids. So,

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 4: like I said, it's right there in the lobby. We

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01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 4: don't make it a secret of what we're all about,

1203
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 4: what our.

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Speaker 1: Philosophy is, about what's the racial composition, Okay.

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Speaker 4: Right now, I would say ninety six percent Hispanic, four

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Speaker 4: percent Black, possibly something like that, and that that jives

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Speaker 4: with the demographics of that zip code right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when I was growing up was all black,

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Speaker 1: hundred percent black, and now it's mostly Hispanic.

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Speaker 4: And when we started striving the nineties, it was all

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Speaker 4: black in that neighborhood. So things have slipped.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I noticed that you told me Dennis Praeger had

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01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: come down time talk to me about that.

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Speaker 4: Well, he came down on five or six years ago,

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01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,839
Speaker 4: same thing. He went on a ride along with John Coughlin,

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Speaker 4: and he came in had the same kind of an

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01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 4: experience we had. He got to meet a lot of

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Speaker 4: the kids, and we loved meeting him. I will say

1219
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 4: that Dennis was Don my partner and co founder at Stride,

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 4: was Don's guru, and you've been my guru. So it's

1221
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Speaker 4: been such a pleasure meeting you twice in the last month.

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01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 4: And I have to, as I told you when you

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 4: came to Strife, so much of you is inside a Stride.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know there was a number of motivational statements

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Speaker 1: on the wall, some of which I had said.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 4: Your name wasn't there? Good?

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01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: Quite quite flattered that that that was the case. So

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01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,479
Speaker 1: where are you going next? What's the what's the goal

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Speaker 1: now down the road?

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Speaker 4: Well, the next chapter, like I said, when we finished

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Speaker 4: this the villa and the new building, we'll be adding

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01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 4: about three thousand square feet of space and more classrooms, uh,

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Speaker 4: bringing in more kids by springtime than the plan is

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Speaker 4: UH to start thinking about the private school which will

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Speaker 4: come next, the same thing though no government money, all

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01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 4: privately funded. And that's the plan. And then I what

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: we're doing at Strive is thinking about the future. Don

1239
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 4: and I are the history of Stride. We started it,

1240
01:09:57,200 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 4: and we're training the upcoming executive team to take over

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: over the next several years. And I'll hopefully be backing

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01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 4: off into my next chapter, which is to write a

1243
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 4: little bit about the inner city and the schools and

1244
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 4: the situation and all the social chaos that these kids

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01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 4: have to navigate.

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Speaker 1: Where do you live.

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 4: I'm in South Pasadena.

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Speaker 1: And what about the rest of your staff?

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Speaker 4: Well, three executive team members are all Hispanic and they're

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01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 4: all generally from the neighborhood. Two of them specifically. Most

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01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 4: of the staff are from the neighborhood. Like I said,

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01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 4: I'm thinking at least four or five of them are

1253
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 4: former students, so we've brought them up. They love to

1254
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 4: Strive so much. They've gone off to college and now

1255
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 4: they come back to work at Strive. A couple of

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01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 4: them in college now. So we're happy with the way

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01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 4: things are going.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever been concerned about your own safety?

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01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 3: Oh?

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01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,600
Speaker 4: Over the years, many times, sure. But back in the

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01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 4: early days, Don's cringing and laughing over there. They called

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01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 4: me crazy white man all through the nineties, and I

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01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 4: won't get into all the reasons why, but I was

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 4: just probably because I was crazy. I can in front

1265
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 4: of the people on the streets. I confronted crazy situations,

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 4: and I do much less of that now because of

1267
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 4: my age and everything. So there have been many times

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 4: over the years you had to worry, but you can't

1269
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 4: really worry. We're there to do a job.

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01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 1: So a few years ago, I'm having dinner with a

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01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: buddy of mine named John Lottie's an economist. He was

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: teaching at University Chicago at the time, and there was

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01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: a bookstore not too far from the university. He went

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01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: into it and there was a couple of black kids.

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Speaker 1: One of them had a book and it wasn't he said,

1276
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: a frivolous book. He didn't remember what it was, but

1277
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 1: it was a serious book. And the other black kids

1278
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 1: said to him, what are you reading that for? You're

1279
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: trying to be white. And my friend, who is white,

1280
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: went over to him and said, look, read anything and

1281
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: everything you can, because education is a key to getting ahead,

1282
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: and learning how to express yourself as a key to

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: getting ahead. And the other kid, who tastised the other kid,

1284
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: turned to the kid and said, I told you it's

1285
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: going to make you white. And the kid put down

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01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: the book and while away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, too much of that's going on. I've seen

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01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 4: it in too many examples to recount, you know, especially

1289
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 4: back when we had majority of black kids in our program,

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01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 4: which has changed somewhat.

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01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 10: And I have a.

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01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 4: Goddaughter that's a black she's what thirty three years old now,

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01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 4: and I was I knew her since she was born,

1294
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 4: and I've seen it, seen it time after time. That's

1295
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 4: that's that dead end behavior and dead end mentality that

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01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 4: doesn't work for anybody.

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Speaker 1: What about the local politicians, what kind of support have

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Speaker 4: we're showing them up. We don't use their money, We're

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Speaker 4: showing up the schools. The kids love the place, the

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Speaker 4: families love the place. Yeah, we had an episode a

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Speaker 1: They take no government money, it's all donations. If you'd

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Speaker 1: la dot org. What's the message? Give me a message.

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Speaker 1: What are you telling the kids? What are you telling

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Speaker 1: the parents?

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Speaker 4: Well, our message is to focus more on optimism and

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Speaker 4: opportunity rather than obstacles. And that's one of the things

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Speaker 4: we learned the hard way over years down there is

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Speaker 4: there's too many people teaching these kids to focus on

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Speaker 4: the obstacles, to be angry, uh and to become entitled.

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Speaker 4: So that is our larger message, Just focus on the opportunity,

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Speaker 4: not the obstacles.

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Speaker 1: Some years ago, Jim, there was a joint survey with

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Speaker 1: CNN and Time Magazine. They asked a bunch of teenagers,

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Speaker 1: black and white teenagers, is racism a major problem in America?

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Speaker 1: And not too surprisingly, both of them said yes. But

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Speaker 1: then they did this, They asked the black teenagers, it's

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Speaker 1: racism a big problem, a small problem, or no problem

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Speaker 1: in your own daily life. Eighty nine percent of the

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Speaker 1: black kids said racism was either a minor problem or

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Speaker 1: no problem in my own daily life. In fact, twice

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Speaker 1: as many black kids compared to white kids said failure

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Speaker 1: to take advantage of available opportunities is a bigger problem

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Speaker 1: than racist.

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Speaker 4: That's right, That's exactly it, and that's our message too.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, your words and your wisdom and philosophy

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Speaker 4: phil strive.

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Speaker 1: How do you get this attitude of defeatism this attitude

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Speaker 1: that racism is holding me back out of their heads.

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Speaker 1: How do you you can do?

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Speaker 4: You just show them. You just have to show them

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Speaker 4: the opportunity out there and talk about and your message

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Speaker 4: of hard work pays putting in the effort. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: we just tell them to adopt our philosophy of work hard,

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Speaker 4: study hard, and a little extra and the rest will

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Speaker 4: fall in place.

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Speaker 1: Just about a minute left. What about moral behavior? You

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Speaker 1: know the formula for success is finish high school, don't

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Speaker 1: have a kid, you're twenty, get married first. Those kinds

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Speaker 1: of things. You talk about, those kinds of things.

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Speaker 4: It's funny you ask, because I had forgot all about that.

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Speaker 4: We have an affirmation that we have all our families,

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Speaker 4: and I should should have emailed it to you first.

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Speaker 4: What you quote that recipe where you quote graduate high school,

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Speaker 4: don't have kids, and get married first. It's in our affirmation,

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Speaker 4: so we give it to our families. It's harsh, like

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Speaker 4: I said, I've never been slapped or punched yet, but

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Speaker 4: they read it. The families sign it, and we even

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Speaker 4: have a little clause that says we don't judge your

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Speaker 4: mother or your past history. We're here to help your

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Speaker 4: children and their future. So it's a hard direct message,

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Speaker 4: but it's working for our kids.

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Speaker 1: Finish high school, don't have a kid before you're twenty,

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Speaker 1: get married before you have the kid. Get a job,

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Speaker 1: keep the job, don't quit the job. Do you get

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Speaker 1: another job or start your own business and avoid the

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Speaker 1: criminal justice systems.

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Speaker 4: Basic common sense, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Strive s t r I v E. Dash l A

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Speaker 1: dot org. Strive dash l A dot org. Again, not

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Speaker 1: one dime of government money, So please throw something in

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Speaker 1: the tip jar Jim, thank you so much for coming in.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Jim T. Trow French a little smoody there, Founder and

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Speaker 1: project director of Strive. Jim, thanks for coming in.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate your Larry, God bless God, bless you.

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Speaker 1: four three. Larry Elders, Salem News Channel, My guests and

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Speaker 1: I are going to take calls from you this hour.

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Speaker 1: He is the director of the Jihad Watch blog, author

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Speaker 1: of a number of books, including the Truth About Mohammad,

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Speaker 1: The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades. His

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Speaker 1: new book out just now it's called holy hell, Islam's

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Speaker 1: abuse of women and the infidels who enable it. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the program, Robert Spencer, Larry, good to

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Speaker 1: see you again. You too, Robert. We don't know whether

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Speaker 1: the Brown University shooting, which by the way, is where

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Speaker 1: I went to college, did shout Allahu akbar one reporter

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Speaker 1: Laura Lumer. It's saying that he said that. Others are

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Speaker 1: saying it's unconfirmed, but he uttered something. We do know

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Speaker 1: about the motives apparently of the father son team in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Here's my question. Is there a distinction, Robert, between Islam

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Speaker 1: and radical Islam.

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Speaker 12: No, not any real distinction. There is no difference in

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Speaker 12: the Koran between some radical understanding and a moderate understanding.

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Speaker 12: As a matter of fact, every sect and every major

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Speaker 12: school of law, every primary mainstream interpretation of the Qur'an,

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Speaker 12: they all agree that Islam teaches warfare against unbelievers and

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Speaker 12: the necessity to subjugate the unbelievers as second class under

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Speaker 12: the rule of Islamic law. This is not some twisted,

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Speaker 12: hijacked version of the religion. This is the real thing.

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Speaker 12: There are some very tiny groups like the akhmedia and

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Speaker 12: the Ismaili Shiites who don't believe in violence, but even

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Speaker 12: they still believe that Islamic law should ultimately rule over

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Speaker 12: the whole world, and that would mean the denial of

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Speaker 12: equality of rights to non Muslims. And so when people

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Speaker 12: act as if there is this radical Islam, but the

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Speaker 12: real Islam is benign and peaceful and tolerant, it's just fiction.

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Speaker 12: It's fantasy. It has no basis in reality.

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Speaker 1: Robert, are you saying that every Muslim has an inner

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Speaker 1: terrorist waiting to pop out?

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Speaker 12: No, I'm not saying that, Larry, And actually I appreciate

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Speaker 12: the question because it's an important distinction that needs to

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Speaker 12: be made. This is what has caused a lot of

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Speaker 12: the confusion that people have that they think, Oh, my

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Speaker 12: friend's a Muslim and he's such a sweet, gentle guy,

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Speaker 12: wouldn't hurt a fly. Therefore, Islam is peace that does

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Speaker 12: not follow. People are confusing individuals with the teachings of

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Speaker 12: the religion. An individual may be a very good person,

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Speaker 12: like Ahmed al Ahmed, the Muslim who tackled one of

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Speaker 12: the shooters in Australia, and a lot of people are

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Speaker 12: trying to make hay with that and make some big

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Speaker 12: point out of it. I saw Bernie Sanders doing this

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Speaker 12: here today, that they're acting as if this means that

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Speaker 12: is slow is the problem. Actually, though there is a

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Speaker 12: lot of teaching about jihad violence in the Qur'an and

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Speaker 12: in the example of Muhammad and Islamic teaching, there is

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Speaker 12: no teaching about stop people who are committing jihad violence.

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Speaker 12: So Ahmed al Ahmed is a better person than his religion.

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Speaker 12: The people have a variety of priorities, perspectives, influences, and

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Speaker 12: so on. The teaching of the religion is one thing,

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Speaker 12: and every individual's practice is something that might be very

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Speaker 12: different from the teaching of the religion.

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Speaker 1: How many Muslims are there in the world.

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Speaker 12: There are about a billion and a half.

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Speaker 1: How many of them are let's use the word problematic.

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Speaker 12: About a billion and a half. And I don't say

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Speaker 12: that facetiously, because you know, while I just said that

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Speaker 12: there are peaceful and gentle Muslims, there is no way

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Speaker 12: to tell any given Muslim whether he will at one

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Speaker 12: point turn to jihad and become violent or not. There

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Speaker 12: are very many examples, unfortunately, of Muslims who seemed to

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Speaker 12: be completely assimilated into the West, very well off good jobs,

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Speaker 12: high paying pillars of the community, and then they turned

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Speaker 12: to jihad. There were doctors in Scotland a few years

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Speaker 12: ago who did this. There was an Intel executive in

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Speaker 12: Washington State or Portland actually, I believe it was a

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Speaker 12: few years back who ended up getting tangled up with

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Speaker 12: al Qaeda. And these kinds of things happened because you know,

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Speaker 12: people go through a lot of different stages in life,

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Speaker 12: and they're subjected to a variety of experiences as time

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Speaker 12: goes by, and often people in times of crisis of

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Speaker 12: every religion turned to their religion for comfort during the crisis.

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Speaker 12: When Muslims do that, they encounter the teachings that call

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Speaker 12: for warfare against unbelievers and even tell people if you

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Speaker 12: are chapter nine, verse fourteen, and fifteen of the Qur'an

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Speaker 12: says that Allah will soothe your heart, will comfort you

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Speaker 12: if you fight the unbelievers. And so it makes vulnerable

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Speaker 12: people even more susceptible to change in this way. And

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Speaker 12: so while there are a lot of millions and millions,

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Speaker 12: maybe over a billion Muslims who will never go jihad,

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Speaker 12: at the same time, we can never tell which one

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Speaker 12: is going to and which one is not.

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Speaker 1: Well that was my next question. I use the word

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Speaker 1: problematic before let me change the terms of the one

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Speaker 1: point seven billion. Nick, you said, how many of them will,

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Speaker 1: in your opinion, ultimately turn to jihad?

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Speaker 12: How many? Well, we have probably people people generally actually

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Speaker 12: like to say, Larry that we're talking about one percent

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Speaker 12: of are in violent jihad groups. But even that, when

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Speaker 12: you're talking about over a billion people, then you're talking

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Speaker 12: about several hundred thousand Jihattis or more, and that could

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Speaker 12: cause quite a lot of trouble. Remember it was only

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Speaker 12: fifteen who brought down the Twin Towers and damaged the

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Speaker 12: Pentagon on nine to eleven. And so the idea of

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Speaker 12: there being over a million Jihatis in the world, even

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Speaker 12: though it's a tiny percentage of the Muslims all around

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Speaker 12: the globe, it could be catastrophic for the rest of

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Speaker 12: the world.

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Speaker 1: Now, Robert, you speak and you read Arabic, and you've

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Speaker 1: told me that in the Quran there have been kind

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Speaker 1: of a different or more modern version of the Quran.

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Speaker 1: Talk to us about that.

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Speaker 12: Oh, no, it's not a more modern version of the Quran,

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Speaker 12: like a more modern translation of the Bible compared to

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Speaker 12: the King James or something like that. What I think

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Speaker 12: you probably have in mind is the distinction between the

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Speaker 12: Meccan and the Medinan passages of the Koran. Now, this

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Speaker 12: is a distinction that is put in put into Koran

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Speaker 12: in Islamic theology. It's not actually in the Koran itself.

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Speaker 12: In other words, there are one hundred and fourteen chapters

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Speaker 12: of the Koran, and each one is classified as being

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Speaker 12: from Mecca or from Medina. Now that distinction is not

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Speaker 12: in the Koran itself, it comes from Islamic tradition. And

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Speaker 12: in Mecca, that's the first part of Mohammad's career according

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Speaker 12: to Islamic tradition once again, the first twelve years where

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Speaker 12: he was preaching the religion and preaching that he was

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Speaker 12: a prophet, but he did not have political power. Then

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Speaker 12: the second part of his career is in Medina, after

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Speaker 12: the Hidra, the emigration from Mecca to Medina, when he

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Speaker 12: becomes a political and military leader, and the passages from

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Speaker 12: Medina are much more belligerent and they have a great

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Speaker 12: deal more than content that teaches warfare and subjugation of

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Speaker 12: the unbelievers. And in Islamic theology, the passages that come

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Speaker 12: chronologic in Mohammad's career supersede the ones that come earlier

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Speaker 12: if there's any contradiction or conflict, and that is a

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Speaker 12: red flag actually for the rest of the world, because

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Speaker 12: the chronologically later passages are unfortunately more violent and bellicos

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Speaker 12: than the earlier.

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Speaker 1: Robert two minutes left in this segment. But please stick around.

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Speaker 1: Islam compatible with a constitutional republic like.

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Speaker 12: America, Absolutely not, Muslims. Muslim individuals may be very happy

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Speaker 12: to be here, many, I'm sure here because they're happy

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Speaker 12: not to be living under Islamic law. But Islamic law

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Speaker 12: teaches the devaluation of women and non Muslims. There's no

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Speaker 12: idea of equality rights of all people before the law.

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Speaker 12: It denies the freedom of each There's a death penalty

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01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 12: for criticizing Islam, Mohammad, or the Qur'an. These things make

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01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 12: it impossible for a completely Sharia adherent Muslim to be

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Speaker 12: a loyal citizen of the United States. One of them

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Speaker 12: has got to go. Either the Muslim in question will

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Speaker 12: be ignoring those past aspects of his religion and other

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Speaker 12: ones that are incompatible, and that's fine, or ignoring aspects

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Speaker 12: of the Constitution, which can bene very.

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Speaker 1: Dangerous we come back. I want to ask you about

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Speaker 1: what President George W. Bush used to say.

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Speaker 3: He called.

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Speaker 1: Islam quote a religion apeace that's been hijacked by extremeists

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Speaker 1: close quote. I'm going to talk to Robert Spinner about

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Speaker 1: that of Jihadwatch stick around Triple eight nine seven one

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Speaker 1: seven two four three again. His latest book is called

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Speaker 1: enable it. We'll talk about that later on as well, Robert.

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Speaker 1: He's also written The Truth About Mohammad and the Politically

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Speaker 1: Incorrect Guide to Islam. He's also held seminars on Islam

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Speaker 1: and Jihad for the United States Central Command, the United

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Speaker 1: director founder of Jihad Watch, writes a blog. He's written

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Speaker 1: a number of books, including his latest one, Holy Hell,

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Speaker 1: Islam's Abuse of Women and the Infidels Who Enable It.

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Speaker 1: His name is Robert Spiner. Robert, what is your opinion

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Speaker 1: of people like doctor Judy Jasser of the American Islamic

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Speaker 1: Forum for Democracy, who argues that there is a compatible

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Speaker 1: Islam that can coexist with non believers.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, Larry, I'm myself. I am a Christian,

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Speaker 12: and if I told you I'm a Christian and I

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Speaker 12: believe that there are four gods, then you would say

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Speaker 12: you're a very funny kind of Christian because Christianity is monotheistic.

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Speaker 12: And that's really the situation. Unfortunately, if people like Zudi Jasser,

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Speaker 12: they do not correspond. Their version of Islam does not

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Speaker 12: correspond to any traditional Islam that has ever been in

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Speaker 12: the world today. That's why they have essentially non existent

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Speaker 12: followings among Muslims themselves. People have such hope in the

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Speaker 12: moderate Muslims that they're going to prevail in the Islamic community.

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Speaker 12: They don't realize how minuscule their followings really are. And

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Speaker 12: I'm afraid some people might get misled into complacency by thinking, Oh,

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Speaker 12: they see somebody like Jasser and he's saying everything. It

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Speaker 12: makes so much sense. They think, oh, the vast majority

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Speaker 12: of Muslims are like this. And certainly most Muslims are

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Speaker 12: peaceful in their personal lives, but this does not change

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Speaker 12: the teachings of Islam that are always there. Once again, unfortunately,

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Speaker 12: for a Jihati to exploit and to make the case

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Speaker 12: that what he's doing is islamically correct, and to recruit

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Speaker 12: other Muslims on that basis.

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Speaker 1: Robert roughly, how many mosques are there in America?

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Speaker 16: Well, you know, I.

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Speaker 12: Believe it's seven thousand, but there are quite a few

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Speaker 12: that are not registered. I remember quite a few years ago,

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Speaker 12: as a matter of fact, I was talking to the

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Speaker 12: chief of police for counter terrorism in this area and

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Speaker 12: he said, you want to go see the secret mosque,

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Speaker 12: And he took me to this mosque that was completely

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Speaker 12: off the radar. The police obviously did know about it,

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Speaker 12: but it was not registered, not listed, not public in

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Speaker 12: any way. And this is something that is true all

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Speaker 12: over the country. There's been an explosion of construction of

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Speaker 12: mosques since nine eleven. Most of the mosques in the

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Speaker 12: United States have been built since nine eleven. Most of

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Speaker 12: the Muslims in the United States are here, They have

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Speaker 12: arrived since nine eleven. It's kind of ironic in light

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Speaker 12: of the fact that so many Muslims complain about so

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Speaker 12: called Islamophobia in the United States and an alleged suspicion

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Speaker 12: or hatred of Muslims since nine to eleven, and yet

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Speaker 12: so many of them are clamoring to get here.

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Speaker 1: Robert in the average mosque, if I can use that expression,

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Speaker 1: what is being taught.

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Speaker 12: The supremacy and victory and hegemony of Islam. It's superiority

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Speaker 12: over Judaism and Christianity. Hatred. There's a thing called al

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01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 12: walah wah barrah in Islam. It's the idea of the

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Speaker 12: hatred of what is evil and the embrace of what

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Speaker 12: is good. And you have to understand, the unbelievers are evil.

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Speaker 12: They are the most vile of created beings, as the

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Speaker 12: Koran says. And these things are taught in America. There

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Speaker 12: have been actually independent surveys of American mosques showing that

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Speaker 12: eighty percent of them teach the contempt for unbelievers, hatred

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Speaker 12: of unbelievers, the necessity ultimately to replace the Constitution with

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Speaker 12: Islamic law. There's not a different version of the Koran

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Speaker 12: here or a different Islam. It's the same the world

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Speaker 12: over and everywhere all over the world where there are

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Speaker 12: Muslims and non Muslims, there is conflict between the two

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Speaker 12: that is initiated by the Muslims that is going to

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Speaker 12: come to the United States. It already has in a

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Speaker 12: number of terror attacks, and we're going to see much more.

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Speaker 12: Because why should we think it's going to be any

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Speaker 12: different when the teachings are the same.

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Speaker 1: What do we do about it?

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Speaker 12: Well, one of the things, one of the main things

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Speaker 12: we need to do about it is stop the madness

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Speaker 12: in regard to migration policies and recognize in migration policies

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Speaker 12: the fact that Islam is indeed not just a religion,

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Speaker 12: but is political, supremacist, aggressive and violent, and call upon

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Speaker 12: the people who are trying to come into the country

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Speaker 12: who are Muslims to renounce all that. Make it very

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Speaker 12: clear that if they don't renounce all that they'll be

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Speaker 12: deported to port the Muslims who are here, who already

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Speaker 12: are adhering to or who are publicly adhering to, those

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Speaker 12: aspects of Islam. And for example, they were chanting death

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Speaker 12: to America in Dearborn, Michigan at a Muslim rally last summer.

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Speaker 12: Everybody who was there should have deported if they were

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Speaker 12: not citizens, and naturalized citizens have their citizenship revoked. I mean,

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Speaker 12: how long is a nation expected to put up with

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Speaker 12: people in it who want to destroy it? That's just

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Speaker 12: a suicide pact. And so deportations and much more stringent

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Speaker 12: immigration requirements is the first step, Robert.

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Speaker 1: Isn't there something in the Qoran that allows you to

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Speaker 1: lie to infidels? And if that is true, how is

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Speaker 1: it that we vet them? Because if they say, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't subscribe to this philosophy, how do we know

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Speaker 1: they're telling the truth, particularly when the religion gives them

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Speaker 1: the right to lie.

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Speaker 12: You don't know, Larry, Because yes, there is that aspect

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Speaker 12: of Islam. It's in the Koran, Chapter three, verse twenty eight.

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Speaker 12: Do not take unbelievers as your friends and protectors in

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Speaker 12: preference to believers, unless you're doing it to guard yourselves

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Speaker 12: against them. And all the commentators on that verse, the

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Speaker 12: classic commentaries on the Koran say this means that in

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Speaker 12: certain certain circumstances you can and pretend to be on

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Speaker 12: your enemy's side in order to make him complacent. And

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Speaker 12: so that has to be understood whenever you're dealing with

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Speaker 12: Muslims making treaties that kind of thing. But nobody in

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Speaker 12: Washington seems to know or care in any case, how

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Speaker 12: do we deal with that? We make it a deportable

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Speaker 12: offense that if you are caught acting in some way

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Speaker 12: that contradicts your testimony when you were asking these questions

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Speaker 12: when you came in, then you gotta leave.

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Speaker 1: Robert Spencer is my guest. He is with Gie had

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Speaker 1: watched when we come back, Robert, I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you about Zorn mom Dommi and ilan Omar Triple eight

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Speaker 1: nine seven one, Sage Triple eight nine seven one seven

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Speaker 1: two four three. I am Larry Older. We are Salem

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Speaker 1: News Channel. Do not leave town.

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Speaker 6: Lock Jesus.

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Speaker 1: Tripleate nine seven one, s h GA Triple eight nine

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Speaker 1: seven one seven two four three Larry Elders, Salem News Channel.

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Speaker 1: My guess is the author of the book Holy Hell,

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Speaker 1: Islam's Abuse of Women and the infidels who enabled his

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Speaker 1: name is Robert Spencer, director of Jihad Watch. Robert, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Salmon Rushdi. He's the one who wrote the

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Speaker 1: book Satonic Verses from India. Raised in a pretty affluent

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Speaker 1: Muslim family, he wrote this book. It was controversial. Fatois

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Speaker 1: was put out, he was attacked, stabbed, I think one eye,

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Speaker 1: he lost one eye. He now calls himself an atheist.

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Speaker 1: What is your take on him and his career?

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Speaker 12: Solomon Rushy's an interesting case because even though he is

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Speaker 12: the foremost victim of Islam's prohibition on free speech and criticism,

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Speaker 12: he doesn't seem to really be interested in following the

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Speaker 12: logical train of his own thought. I mean I say

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Speaker 12: that because he's never really spoken out against jihad violence

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Speaker 12: again Sharia oppression. He has certainly been courageous in reappearing

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Speaker 12: after it's been made abundantly clear by the Islamic Republic

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Speaker 12: of Iran that they still want him dead. And that's

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Speaker 12: all to his credit. And he certainly has suffered for

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Speaker 12: criticizing Muhammad in his book The Satanic Verses back in

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Speaker 12: nineteen eighty nine, but at the same time he spoke

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Speaker 12: out recently forthrightly against Hindu nationalism, which is not a

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Speaker 12: threat to the world, is not an aggressive, expansionist, imperialist,

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Speaker 12: violent dogma, and so it's kind of odd, but maybe

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Speaker 12: he thinks that he will be spared a further attack

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Speaker 12: with it because of his reticence.

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Speaker 1: Robert based on migration and based on the fact that

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Muslims are outbreeding non Muslims. What's

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Speaker 1: the future of the UK? What is the future of France,

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Speaker 1: particularly London and Paris.

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Speaker 12: By the end of this century, it is very likely,

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Speaker 12: unless things change in some major way, that France and

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Speaker 12: the UK will both be Muslim countries, as well as Sweden, Germany,

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Speaker 12: possibly Italy and other countries in Western Europe. And the

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Speaker 12: end result, well, we're talking about a nuclear armed Islamic republic,

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Speaker 12: and so that would isolate the United States to an

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Speaker 12: alarming degree and may cause a world war. It will

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Speaker 12: certainly cause the destruction of Europe's ancient Christian culture, the

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Speaker 12: destruction of the monuments of that culture that you can

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Speaker 12: find all over Europe. The cathedral of Notre Dame and

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Speaker 12: Paris just burned down a few years ago was rebuilt.

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Speaker 12: But if France keeps going the way it's going, it

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Speaker 12: will likely be a mosque in a few years, as

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Speaker 12: will Westminster Cathedral and other monuments of Western civilization. Islam

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Speaker 12: does not take kindly to representation of the human form,

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Speaker 12: and so the treasured artworks of Michelangelo and Leonardo da

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Speaker 12: Vinci and all the rest of them, and the paintings

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Speaker 12: are all liable to be destroyed. And if you think

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Speaker 12: that this is an exaggeration, you should remember that there

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Speaker 12: are hundreds of thousands, and this is no exaggeration of

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Speaker 12: mosques in the Islamic world that are built over the

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Speaker 12: sites of churches or synagogues or Hindu temples that were

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Speaker 12: destroyed and a mosque built on top of the place

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Speaker 12: where they were to signify the victory of Islam over

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Speaker 12: the other religions. And this could happen in the West

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Speaker 12: if we are not going to deal with this problem.

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Speaker 1: Less than a minute left in this segment, Robert, why

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Speaker 1: do so many Muslims in Islamic countries want to move

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Speaker 1: to the West.

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Speaker 12: Well, one reason is because it's economically better off here,

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Speaker 12: and so it's a more comfortable life, and they're so

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Speaker 12: they're not thinking about Islam. And as long as they

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Speaker 12: keep on not thinking primarily about Islam, then they might

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Speaker 12: there might be no problem, but others are coming because

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Speaker 12: the Qur'an promises a reward from a law for those

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Speaker 12: who emigrate in the cause of a law, which means

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Speaker 12: you're emigrating in order to bring Islam to the new place.

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Speaker 12: And this can be very dangerous because going back to

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Speaker 12: the nineteen seventies, the European Commission and then the European

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Speaker 12: Union made a series of agreements with the Arab League

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Speaker 12: to encourage Arab Muslim migration into Europe without assimilation, and

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Speaker 12: without assimilation that means you're going to have exactly what

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Speaker 12: we're seeing in Europe since the nineteen seventies, the growth

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Speaker 12: of Islamic shria enclades that are increasingly at odds with

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Speaker 12: the larger society.

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Speaker 1: Robert, we come back. A number of people want to

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Speaker 1: ask you a questions, so stick around for that. Also

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Speaker 1: want to ask you about ilan Omar. I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you about zoron mom Dommy. I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you whether you fear for your safety? Has there been

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Speaker 1: sort of fautois issued against you? Triple eight nine seven

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four three Larry Elder

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Speaker 1: enable it. The author is my guest, Robert Spencer. Harry

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Speaker 1: is in Twin Cities, Minnesota. Harry, you're on with Robert

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Speaker 1: Spencer and Larry.

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Speaker 10: Hey. Larry, longtime listener. Hello, Robert, two of your books,

1804
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 10: really like them. I just wanted to get your opinion

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Speaker 10: on what's happening in Dearborn. I've heard that even during

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Speaker 10: one of the city council meetings, the mayor was telling

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Speaker 10: a citizen that he wasn't even welcome there and been

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Speaker 10: throw a parade if he would to leave the city.

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Speaker 12: Trying to get your thoughts, Well, that was a remarkable

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Speaker 12: incident that revealed much more than I think the mayor intended,

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Speaker 12: because what we had was a Christian preacher who was

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Speaker 12: complaining about policies of the mayor. Longtime Dearborn resident, and

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Speaker 12: the Muslim mayor tells him, if you think that you're

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Speaker 12: just not welcome in the city, you can move out.

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Speaker 12: And it's remarkable on a number of levels, but I

1816
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Speaker 12: think the main one is that the leftist, non Muslim

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Speaker 12: establishment in Dearborn brought these people in. And there was

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Speaker 12: one of the leftist former members of this Dearborn City

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Speaker 12: council recently complaining saying to the same mayor and to

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Speaker 12: city council members that we were so good to you,

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Speaker 12: We the leftist politicians in Deerborn. We brought you here,

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Speaker 12: we made you feel welcome, we encouraged you to enter politics,

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Speaker 12: and now you are doing all these anti gay initiatives

1824
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Speaker 12: and all these things that go against the left. Well,

1825
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Speaker 12: this is exactly what they should have expected. And it's

1826
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Speaker 12: because Islam is supremacist and authoritarian, and that's what that

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Speaker 12: citizen was coming up against and what the American people

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Speaker 12: are going to come up against increasingly in the coming year.

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Speaker 1: Dan is in Engrove Heights, Minnesota. Dan, you're on with

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Speaker 1: Robert Spencer and Larry.

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Speaker 10: Yes.

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Speaker 17: Hi, Larry Hi, Robert, thank you both having the courage

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Speaker 17: to discuss this topic. You know, as I see it.

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Speaker 17: Islam is a scourge on civilized societies all over the world.

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Speaker 17: It's evil. I think it should be banned in the

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Speaker 17: United States. I think them all the masters should be closed,

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Speaker 17: and I think should be deported from the United States

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Speaker 17: and from all Western societies unless they can somehow actually

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Speaker 17: prove by the demonstrated behavior that their allegiance is not

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Speaker 17: to show you a law.

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Speaker 12: What say you, Robert, Well, you know the difficulty there

1842
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,560
Speaker 12: is that in America, of course, we believe in the

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Speaker 12: due process, equality of rights of all people before the law,

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Speaker 12: and above all, the freedom of religion. If Islam were

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01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,680
Speaker 12: not a religion, it would be a lot easier to

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Speaker 12: deal with it. But it is a religion. There are

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Speaker 12: people who say, even Senator Tommy Tuberville said that it's

1848
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 12: not a religion yesterday. I have a lot of respect

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Speaker 12: for him, but I respectfully disagree on that point. A

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01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 12: religion is just a belief system that it claims. It

1851
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 12: doesn't necessarily do it, but it claims to relate people

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Speaker 12: to God, and Islam does that. And in America we

1853
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 12: have protection for the freedom of religion. So we have

1854
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 12: to understand that Islam is more than a religion and

1855
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Speaker 12: that the political supremacist, aggressive and violent aspects are not

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Speaker 12: welcome here, and that I think is the way to go.

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Speaker 12: That would allow for some Muslim presence in the United States,

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Speaker 12: but it would make it very clear that any action

1859
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Speaker 12: in terms of Islamic jihad would be absolutely unacceptable and

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Speaker 12: would bear legal penalty.

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Speaker 1: I asked the same question, I'm just asking it, I

1862
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Speaker 1: think in a different way. Robert. Is there a distinction

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Speaker 1: between a practicing Muslim and a non practicing Muslim?

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Speaker 12: Well, very much so. Yeah, I mean there are different

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Speaker 12: different degrees of practicing. Also, you have a lot of

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Speaker 12: Muslims in the United States who go to prayers five

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Speaker 12: times a day, or they pray wherever they are five

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Speaker 12: times a day. They regularly recur on they want to

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Speaker 12: do all the other things like the pilgrimage to Mecca

1870
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Speaker 12: and so on, but they're not waging jihad. But the

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Speaker 12: more devout and knowledgeable a Muslim is, the more dangerous

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Speaker 12: he is for non Muslims because of Islam's teachings of

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Speaker 12: warfare against unbelievers.

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Speaker 1: What kind of Muslim was Muhammad Ali?

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Speaker 12: Muhammad Ali started out in the Nation of Islam, which

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Speaker 12: is not really real Islam. It's a racist amalgamation of

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Speaker 12: Islam and a bunch of crazy racial theories that were

1878
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:16,080
Speaker 12: floating around in the nineteen thirties and forties. But the

1879
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 12: problem with the Nation is that it's of a way

1880
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Speaker 12: station into ordinary Sunni Islam, and many people have traveled it,

1881
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Speaker 12: including people who became Jihadis, like John Allen Muhammad who

1882
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,599
Speaker 12: was one of the people shot up people at gas

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Speaker 12: stations in the Washington, DC area back twenty some years ago.

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Speaker 12: And so Muhammad Ali was an ambassador for peace and

1885
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Speaker 12: love and so on, but that was not actually reflected

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Speaker 12: in his Islam. It was something that he was bringing

1887
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Speaker 12: from his Christian background.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he broke with the Nation of Islam. So

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Speaker 1: in his Larry years, what kind of Muslim would you

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Speaker 1: have called him?

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Speaker 12: I believe, to the best of my knowledge, Larry, he

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01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:03,599
Speaker 12: was an ordinary son Muslim, and so he accepted all

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01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 12: these things theoretically, but of course did not act upon them.

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Speaker 1: Two minutes left from this segment, give me your take

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Speaker 1: on ilan Omar.

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Speaker 12: Ilhan Omar is here as an active subversive. She wants

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Speaker 12: to bring down the United States as it's currently constituted

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01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 12: and replace it with something that is much more akin

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Speaker 12: to Islamic law. She's not a grateful refugee, She's not

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Speaker 12: even a real refugee. Her her parents were active in

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01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 12: a repressive authoritarian government in Somalia. And she has said clearly, plainly,

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01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:43,839
Speaker 12: openly that she is Somalia first, that she loves Samalia,

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01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,639
Speaker 12: wants to go back there. But first what she wants

1904
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:52,160
Speaker 12: to do here is weaken the United States and ultimately

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01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 12: work for its destruction for the benefit of the Islamic world.

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Speaker 12: This is something that should not be tall in the

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Speaker 12: United States for many immigrants, much less from somebody who's

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Speaker 12: a member of Congress.

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Speaker 1: Forty five seconds Zorn mam Dami.

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Speaker 12: He is another active subversive. He's of course a Marxist

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Speaker 12: as well as a twelve or Schiai Muslim. That means

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Speaker 12: he's the adherent of two, not just one, but two

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Speaker 12: radically anti American destructive ideologies. And so it's going to

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Speaker 12: be a very dangerous time with him as mayor of

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Speaker 12: New York.

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Speaker 1: We come back, I want to ask you whether Islam

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Speaker 1: is compatible with capitalism, and I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about your own safety. Are you concerned about your own safety?

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Speaker 1: His latest book again just out Holy hell, Islam's abuse

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Speaker 1: of women and the infidels who enable it. He's also

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Speaker 1: written bestsellers The Truth About Muhammad, The Politically Incorrect Guide

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Speaker 1: to Islam. He is the founder director of Jihad Watch.

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Speaker 1: He also has a blog and has counseled the United

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Speaker 1: States Central Command, United States Army Command, US Armies Asymptomatic

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Speaker 1: Asymmetric Warfare Group, FBI Jointed Terrorists Task for He has

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Speaker 1: been quite active. All of this and more. Stick around.

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Speaker 1: two four to three Larry Elder, Salem News Channel, Holy Hell.

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Speaker 1: Islam's abuse of women and the infidels who enable it

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Speaker 1: is the book written by my guest Robert Spencer. Robert

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Speaker 1: is Islam compatible with capitalism.

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Speaker 12: Theoretically yes, but capitalism tends to lend itself toward respect

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Speaker 12: for individual rights and individualism that you know, men can

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Speaker 12: make his fortune with the work of his own hands,

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Speaker 12: and then he can enjoy the fruit of his labors.

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Speaker 12: But Islam is inherently deeply collectivist, that you are really

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Speaker 12: only have meaning as a member of the Ummah, the

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Speaker 12: globeble Islamic community, and so it lends itself much more

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Speaker 12: easily to collectivist ideologies, and this is one of the

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Speaker 12: reasons why the left in Islam get along so well

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Speaker 12: and have such a deep alliance, because they're both authoritarian

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Speaker 12: collectivist vision.

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Speaker 1: Robert, what is the future of Israel.

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Speaker 12: The future of Israel is that if it holds strong,

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Speaker 12: then it can prevail. Strength has to be always at

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Speaker 12: the uppermost, because even in Islamic law, you don't fight

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Speaker 12: a jihad if you have no chance of winning. It

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Speaker 12: is weakness that has enabled the jihad against Israel, and

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Speaker 12: weakness will perpetuate it. The stronger Israel is, the more peaceful.

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Speaker 1: It will be. You've told us about your concern about

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Speaker 1: the future of the UK and the future of France.

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Speaker 1: How concerned are you about the future of America when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Islam.

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately, it's exactly the same, Larry. Nothing's here preventing the

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Speaker 12: same thing from happening in that's happening now in Europe

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Speaker 12: from happening here. There are no safeguards in place. The

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Speaker 12: only thing that can save us is to realize as

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Speaker 12: a society what Islam is all about and start acting accordingly.

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Speaker 12: But right now that's not happening. So we're not as

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Speaker 12: far along as Europe because we don't have as large

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Speaker 12: an Islamic population, but that is changing, and the more

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Speaker 12: it changes, the more trouble there will be here.

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Speaker 1: Is there anyone in Congress? Does a president see Islam

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Speaker 1: the way you see it?

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Speaker 12: I thought the president did nine or ten years ago.

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Speaker 12: He was speaking very well about it and about Cutter

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Speaker 12: as a terrorist threat and so on. But now he

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Speaker 12: doesn't seem to be saying those things. I'm hoping this

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Speaker 12: is just a tactical move for a period.

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Speaker 1: Just a few seconds. Laughter, Robert, your safety, How concerned

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Speaker 1: are you about your safety?

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Speaker 12: Well, they've tried to get me twice. The third time

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Speaker 12: may be a charm, but nobody lives forever. They'd rather

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Speaker 12: die standing up than live on my knees.

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Speaker 1: Holy Hell. Islam's Abuse of Women and the Infidels who

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Speaker 1: enabled it is the latest book by Robert Spencer, director

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Speaker 1: of Jihad Watch. Robert, thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 1: the time. We really do appreciate it.

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Speaker 12: Larry, it's always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: You got it.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Elan omar zoron mom Dommy Salmon Rushdi was stabbed.

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Speaker 1: He's one of his eyes is now gone. Tough hour.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. We'll talk again tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: God bless.

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Speaker 3: What can I say, Mama, Well, Michael has been dropping

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Speaker 3: all across America. That's en up. Put down the micro

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Speaker 4: Ye