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That is Noblegoldinvestments dot Com. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:21.840 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's June eleventh. Man, 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.400 how time is flying? I am here in Phoenix, Arizona 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.520 at the y Refi Studios. Blake as the day off, 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:33.200 traveling in undisclosed locations. I'm sure he would disclose it, 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.360 but I'm not going to do that for him. Honored 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:38.679 to be with you guys all across the country. So 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.720 much to get into. We've got a pac show. Sarah 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.080 Fields is going to be joining us at the half hour. 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:49.600 She has been absolutely out front on the Carmelo Anthony verdict, 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.840 on the trial. She was in the courtroom for much 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:56.440 of the trial itself, and she has insider information. And 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.760 it occurred to me that the country is reacting to 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.960 two different sets of facts, and she's gonna break it 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.680 all down because if you listen to the Carmelo Anthony supporters, 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.720 all you would think is that this is an innocent 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:11.320 young man who did nothing wrong self defense. The facts 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.000 don't bear that out at all. Let's just be clear. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.000 So she's gonna help us break that down where some 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.480 of that disinformation is coming. Then we have Burt Jones, 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.920 who's running to be the next governor of the Great 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:24.200 State of Georgia. And then we're gonna turn our sights 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:27.600 and talk to one of the top members of the 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.760 Reform Party, Nigel Farage in the UK, talking about what's 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.079 happening with Henry Novak, what's happening in Belfast. So much 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.679 to get into, but I want to start today on 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:43.720 this bombshell new report from the New York Times. It's 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.480 probably the second such bombshell that has come from Maggie 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.320 Haberman and Jonathan Swan of the New York Times. They 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.959 are publishing this as part of a sort of drip 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:56.720 feed promotion of their new book. I will tell you 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.880 I got a lot of qualms with the New York Times, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.520 as any conservative would. But Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.480 have done these pieces before and there has been very 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:12.760 little pushback, correction anything. They're pretty darn good reporters. Okay. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:14.440 I have to say, you may not agree with them, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.080 you may not like them. They may be on the 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.799 enemy's team, if you will, politically speaking, but they come 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.840 up with the goods and they tend to be fairly accurate. Okay, 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:26.000 So what is reported in this thing? I mean, I 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.920 was wrapped. The whole time I was reading this, my 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.160 mind was going back to the summer, the spring and 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.280 summer of twenty twenty five. That was the time that 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.840 I walked through this whole saga with Charlie as we 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.200 were looking at the way that the Epstein files, if 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.280 you will, were being rolled out. Now, if you listen 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:49.040 to Blake, who's typically on this show with me, nothing 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.000 really to see here. He's a skeptic. He's a skeptic 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.440 that there is a there there in the first place. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:59.920 What this piece details is the inner workings of the 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:03.240 White House top brass to try and figure out how 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:06.200 to deal with it. And what you see is this 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:12.120 fascinating mosaic unfold in the situation room. We're back in 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.440 the situation room. Remember this is their last piece. Was 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.960 when bb Netnah who came over to pitch Trump on 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.000 the Iran strikes inside the situation room. Well, we're back 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.800 there and they were having meetings including Susie Wiles, Taylor Budowitch, 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:30.640 one of her deputy chief of staffs, James Blair, jd Vance, 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.000 Todd Blanche, Pam Bondy, all of these players in the 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:40.280 Trump White House and what you see is a spectrum 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.760 of trying to understand what to do with the Epstein files, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:47.400 and it ranges from Vice President jade Van saying, let's 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.479 get everything out there asap as quickly as we can 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.640 to here are some more moderate options, and it becomes 0:04:54.680 --> 0:05:00.479 this escalating story about how to then release more stuff? 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.640 What do we do with Gleayne Maxwell, What do we 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.279 do with all this stuff? Now? I tend to be 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.640 somewhat persuaded by some of Blake's skepticism. Is there or 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.479 there there? I think there's a lot of there there. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:16.640 We have You have Bill Gates today testifying before the 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:21.760 House committee chaired by James Commer Oversight, trying to explain 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.680 and help them with that investigation. He says that he 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.719 didn't do anything wrong, His affairs are not to be 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:30.920 looked at. Nothing there. But this is an ongoing saga 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.720 because and this is the big because there is energy 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:40.800 within the Trump coalition to see maximum, maximum transparency with this. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.600 JD Vance understood that very early on. I'm pretty sure 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.000 Charlie had something to do with that. Charlie and I 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:51.080 talked about this a lot, that the base wanted the 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.760 Trump two point zero to be different in every single 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.760 way when it came to government accountability and transparency, and 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.799 this article details that. You know who else wanted maximum 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:06.320 transparency was Bongino. Bongino's a character in this. You might 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.760 remember some of the drama that came out at different 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.760 points of his tenure as Deputy director of the FBI. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.120 He wanted to have maximum transparency, but there was other 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:20.440 people that didn't seem as convinced that everything should be released, 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.320 and that ultimately became a tactical misstep here when it 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:28.400 came to this. So let me just summarize this for you. 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.200 So this is part again Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:35.520 detail intense internal panic at the Trump White House in 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:39.280 the summer twenty twenty five, and it's part of their 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.479 book that's going to come out, Regime Change inside the 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:44.400 Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump. I don't love the title. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.880 A DOJFBI member released around July seventh, twenty twenty five, 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.880 stated there was no client list of powerful men linked 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.960 to the Epstein procuring underage girls. It aimed to quell speculation, 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.880 but instead it sparked massive backlash and that is something 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:02.440 that we have been living through and let me make 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.719 this very clear for the audience. When I talk to 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.680 Turning Point students, when I go out and I talk 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:13.360 to regular voters, we go to our local UH Chase, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.600 the Chase the vote super chase events with just everyday 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.720 Americans base voters. Guess what they care about. They want 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:24.040 to see accountability. With Epstein, they want to see big rich, 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:28.960 powerful elites be held accountable. Some have been held accountable 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.360 in the court of public opinion, some have been driven 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:33.760 out of jobs, some have had to resign. But they 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:39.080 want to see actual lawsuits. They want to see charges, indictments. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.640 So the DOJ memo comes out trying to quell all 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.920 of this. Top advisors held multiple high stakes meetings, often 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.480 in the situation room, to manage the political fallout debate 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:56.560 transparency gestures like in interviewing Gallainne Maxwell petitioning to get 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:06.000 grand jury sealed grand jury investigations unsealed. It ended up 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:11.480 blowing up in everybody's faces. This insight into who was 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.880 doing what and when and how it was handled is 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.800 a fascinating one. It's a pr nightmare obviously for the 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:22.600 Trump administration. Now, do I believe that there is a 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:26.200 actual client list? I don't actually believe that. But one 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.480 thing that I can say is there was video in 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:33.760 Miny of Epstein's locations in his houses and his different properties. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.760 What happened to that. But I do believe that President 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.920 Trump there's nothing that implicates him directly. Maybe some embarrassing moments, 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:45.080 but that's fine. Nothing he hasn't dealt with before. But 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:46.920 I do not think that the president if that if 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.920 Joe Biden and the Biden administration would have had something 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.840 on President Trump, it would have been released during the 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.120 Biden administration. You bet your bottom dollar. Okay, this became 0:08:56.160 --> 0:09:00.960 a political football that the Democrats jumped on after the 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.480 MAGA coalition was upset about the way it was handled. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.760 I recommend everybody give this a read. It's a very 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:11.040 fascinating article, and I believe some people come out looking 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.600 really good. Some people come out looking like they don't 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.920 understand the base, and that is the key insight that 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:23.000 this strained relationships within the admin. There was trouble trying 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.000 to navigate it with the public. But the main thing 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.200 that I want to say is that there is some 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:33.840 there there, but it's probably not everything that the base wants. Transparency, honesty, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.760 it all would have been the best policy here. Some 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.360 were early, some found out the hard way. I want 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.199 to give you guys some breaking news. There are hazmat 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.080 cruz at the FB or at the Pentagon right now. 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:50.240 Multiple Pentagon floors locked down evacuated due to hazardous material incident. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:54.200 What you have right there is a statement from Sean Parnell, 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.360 who says the Pentagon has sophisticated systems to ensure the 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.920 safety of the building and occupants. Those systems have detected 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:06.600 an air quality issue, necessitating precautionary measures until we determine 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:11.120 its significance. The Department is executing standard protection protocol, including 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:14.080 a shelter and place order for the affected area. Response 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.079 teams are in place and ready to support building occupants. 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:20.440 So I'm not sure how big of a deal that is. Obviously, 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.560 we're prayerful that there is. This is just precautionary that 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:28.040 it's but we're gonna be monitoring the situation. Okay, So 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:35.440 that is happening right now. Device picked up biohazard scent. Okay, 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.600 so a device picked up some sort of biohazard scent. 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.400 So we are monitoring that. I'll give you more information 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:43.760 as we have it, all right, I want to make 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.360 up a couple points here, so we laid out the sticks. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.120 There's panic at the White House over Epstein. You know, 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.679 they even bring up Charlie and that Charlie got scolded 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.600 for trying to elevate the issue at Student Action summit 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.760 in twenty twenty five. I remember it well. I can 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:02.480 tell you that much of the reporting is in that 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:08.160 instance is pretty accurate. Actually. I just have to say, though, 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.040 and this is the part that is frustrating for me. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.600 Where was the New York Times in CNN and ABC 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.760 and all these guys the last four years of the 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.880 Epstein list and the Epstein files when Joe Biden was president, 0:11:20.160 --> 0:11:24.079 where were they? Where were the big expose as in 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:28.880 the articles? They don't care about what actually is happening 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.640 with kids and human trafficking. They don't care about it. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.880 And I can prove that, and I will in a second. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.640 They were in favor of all the things that were 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.000 happening at the border. They were in favor of the humanitarian, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:46.559 the humane, compassionate immigration that was not compassionate or humane 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:51.000 at all. But now suddenly they care about Epstein because 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:52.959 they see it as a political football that they can 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.120 take advantage of They see it as a way to 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.920 smear the Trump administration, which has release more files than 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.800 anybody else. Yeah, sometimes they do it under duress, and 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.679 they were kicking e screement. I totally admit it was 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.320 bad optics. They should have done it out front and willing. 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.560 There were certain voices in the administration that wanted to 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.360 do so. But if you read this piece carefully, one 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.559 thing is very clear. They understood they had an optics problem, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.000 but they also understood that there was no there there. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:21.920 So what do you do when the world is going 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.920 to try and smear the president as some pedophile, some 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.000 pedo protector is the way it gets smeared on the 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.400 Internet and sometimes IRL and in real life. But what 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.920 do you do when there's no there there? And how 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.000 do you best handle it? And I will just say 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.720 they handled it the wrong way many times. And there's 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:44.440 been certain voices in the administration, such as JD. Vance, 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:47.560 that wanted to just get it all out there, beat 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.640 forward facing, get out in front of it, send it 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:52.559 all out. That was the right impulse, that was the 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:57.319 right instinct. They don't believe in objective morality, though The 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:02.960 New York Times these reporters of the stories incensed, outraged, 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:08.880 morally indignant at this pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. When Joe Biden 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.200 was president, nobody even talked about it. The only people 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:15.640 talking about it actually were people like Dan Bongino, people 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:21.079 like us on the show, people like Charlie. So anyways, 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.320 apparently more morality just sways based on who's in office 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.160 and who you can try and sway their votes. They 0:13:27.160 --> 0:13:30.160 have no moral compass. This is the problem with secular humanism. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.160 It is what is the newest thing? What is the 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:37.200 latest thing? And I'm gonna prove it to you. This morning, 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:43.760 Todd Blanche, acting Attorney General, and our new DHS Secretary 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.520 Secretary Mullin came out and they had a press conference. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:50.480 And what was the press conference about. It was about 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.480 the four hundred and fifty thousand missing smuggled traffic migrant 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.640 children that were brought into the country play cut to 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:58.360 twenty two. 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.920 We found one hundred and forty six kids so far, 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.840 one hundred and forty six thousand kids. We still have 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:11.480 nearly three hundred thousand missing. We're investigating reports to where 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:14.959 some of these kids claim that they were raped six 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:20.360 to seven hundred times you don't care who you are. 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:22.760 I don't care if you have kids, If you don't 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.080 have kids, I don't care. If you're a liberal, you're independent, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.840 you're a Democrat, you're a Republican. If you can't stand 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:34.720 for law enforcement to go find these kids, who are you? 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.840 Do you hear that? So the Biden administration and Democrats 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.000 created this mess at the border, four hundred and fifty 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:45.800 thousand missing kids. They found almost one hundred and fifty 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:48.440 thousand of them. There's three hundred thousand missing still and 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.720 the ones they found are reporting back to DHS and 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:55.000 ICE and CBP, all these you know, the Gestapo that 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:59.200 actually is saving kids, by the way, and reporting back 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.800 to them, they've been raped six or seven hundred times. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.400 So all you out there that are complaining about the 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:12.240 pedo protectors and President Trump, guess what. It's the Trump 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.600 administration that just saved one hundred and fifty thousand kids 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.960 from getting raped six or seven thousand, six or seven 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:22.680 hundred times. But it gets worse. Todd Blanche says they 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:28.960 have discovered fifteen thousand and five hundred super sponsor cases. 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:32.960 These are people that smuggled dozens of kids each So 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.840 while we're talking about pedophiles and Jeffrey Epstein and three 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.480 D chess and five D chess and all right here 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.960 at our border, kids were getting raped and molested by 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.600 grown men, by cartels, by smugglers play cut twenty one. 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:55.040 Today we are announcing the indictments of three individuals, MARITZA 0:15:55.480 --> 0:16:01.239 Week Coke, her brother Carlos, Augustine Kwek Cooke, and Gladys 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.760 Marina call Chen. This was out of the Northern District 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.880 of Ohio. All three are illegal aliens from Guatemala who 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.040 allegedly took part in a wide, raging conspiracy to smuggle 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:15.080 more than a dozen children into the United States by 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:19.040 scamming the system and exploiting the loopholes created by the 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.800 last administration. This is one example, one indictment, but it 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:27.520 is not unique. There are over fifteen thousand, five hundred 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:32.920 super sponsor cases that we have identified along with dhs. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:41.680 Fifteen five hundred supersponsors, pedophiles, smugglers, rapists. That's the truth, 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:47.920 that's the scandal. So many brands today claimed to stand 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.560 for American values, but most of the time it's all 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.240 talk and no action. 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Sarah, 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:20.880 thank you so much for joining the show. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:22.520 Thank you, thank you for having me. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.960 Yeah, so, you have been covering this like nobody else, 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.919 and everybody should go follow you on X You have 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.360 hundreds of thousands of followers already and you're doing incredible 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.080 work here. And it occurred to me you and I 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.520 spoke briefly on the phone yesterday. It occurred to me 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:42.479 that what I am watching in the reaction, especially from 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.679 Carmelo supporters, is that it's like a whole set of 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:48.720 different facts. They are reacting to a case into a 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:52.280 set of circumstances that didn't happen. So why don't we 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:54.760 just start with what did happen and then we'll get 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.760 into the reaction. Put it brass tacks. You were in 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:02.119 the courtroom, you heard his testimony, you saw video what 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:08.520 happened in the murder of this poor young kid in 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:10.760 the Metcalf family of just my heart goes out to them, 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:12.160 what really happened? 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:15.679 What really happened at the bottom line is that Carmelo 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.959 was supposed to be warming up on the track. He 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:22.800 then walked away while the rest of his while while 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.760 the rest of his teammates and the rest of his 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.800 students stayed on the stayed on the track, he walked 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.760 over to the memorial tent, he sat down, and then 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.720 when he was asked to leave because Austin Metcalf had 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:39.840 been literally text by his coach that morning and told 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.200 that he wanted him to take a leadership role and 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:47.040 to make him proud, And all of my reporting includes 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.440 the details of exactly what was said, if you want 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.600 to ever go back and look. But he had been 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:57.200 instructed before that no one under everyone under the tent 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:00.399 is supposed to be part of the team, needs to 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.920 be no one else needs to be underneath that tent, 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:06.359 And it was unusual for them for anyone else that 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.400 was not part of the team to come sit underneath 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.720 the tent. It was part of their policy. It was 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.399 part of what the coach. The coach's instructions were, so 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.639 he took the reins on this and said, you know, 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.400 who is this kid? Why is he under here? And 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.919 of course Carmelo, you know, said I'm mellow, and that 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.080 was it. And they then all chimed in and said, 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:32.000 you're not supposed to be under this tent. You need to, 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.879 you know, go to where you need to be. And 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.280 by the way, you know, it wasn't even you know, 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:40.800 the defenses they had rained and all this stuff, and 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:43.159 it was actually determined at once at one point that 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:47.399 it wasn't raining, it was drizzling, and where Carmelo sat 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:50.359 under the tent was actually not even completely underneath the 0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:54.160 coverage of the tent. It was under only half of it. Yeah, 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:56.520 so he's sitting in the back. They're telling him to leave. 0:20:56.560 --> 0:21:01.680 He refuses to leave often then steps up a row 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:06.040 or two and says, you need to leave. And Carmelo said, 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.440 you know, touch me and see what happens. And at 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.760 this point his hand is already in the bag, already 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.440 in the bag, and he said, you know, you need 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:17.680 to leave, and he said, apparently, according to several witnesses, 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:22.000 he then said punch me and see what happens. Often said, 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.440 I'm not going to fight you at a track meet, bro. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:28.879 He then picks him up, sorry, not picks him up, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.240 but apparently he kind of grabs him and pushes him 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:35.159 on the shoulder. And then at that point, and according 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:37.600 to all the witnesses, it was a slight nudge. It 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.000 was a slight push. If it had been a harder push, 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.320 I don't know. Carmelo could never have reacted the way 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:47.280 he did. He would have fallen backwards right, But instead 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.800 it was Yep, it was a slight nudge, and it 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:54.760 was an immediate stab, and it was so fast that 0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.119 every single witness that was underneath that tent could not 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:03.120 even see the actual stab. And there wasn't until Austin 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.399 lifted up his shirt and said, he stabbed me. He 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:08.560 stabbed me and said, oh my god, lifted up his 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:10.840 shirt and they saw a hole in his chest and 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.040 the blood running down. It wasn't until then that they 0:22:13.080 --> 0:22:16.720 realized that Carmelo had stabbed Often in the heart. And 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:22.440 then Carmelo then apparently walked upwards, ran down the bleachers 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.880 for a very brief amount of time, and then slowed 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:29.919 down again. And apparently it would seem that he was 0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.400 trying to blend in with the crowd at that point 0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:36.720 and he never left the stadium. That is what happened, 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:41.200 fortun to witness testimony. According to all evidence, including the 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:44.679 video footage that was shown by Frisco ISD, there was 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.639 no attack, There was no four minute fight, there was 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:51.680 no co you know, arguing for long periods of time 0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:54.360 back and forth. It happened so fast they didn't even 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.440 realize what had happened to Austin until it was too late. 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.760 So it seems like a very cut, dry case of murder, 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:08.600 basically unprovoked, completely nonsensical, preventable, unnecessary. I mean, this should 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:12.840 have just been a altercation at a you know, high 0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.960 school boys fight, and it didn't even get to that point, 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.960 and yet Austin Metcalf lost his life. And it's egregious. 0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:23.680 He has now obviously he've been found guilty. And despite 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.679 all of this, it's still being used for this modern 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:32.840 American racial drama by bad actors. But the wrong facts, 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:35.359 the wrong details seem to be coming out. When you 0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.400 hear people talk Jasmine Crockett, we'll just use her as 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:41.960 case in point. Hear her reaction and then let's talk 0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:45.840 about where some of this disinformation is originating from twenty. 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.719 Nine and what we saw with that verdict is the 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.760