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Speaker 1: Life audio.

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Speaker 2: Today, I'm talk about that John tries to sneak an

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Speaker 2: iife onto a plane and aims fireworks at his friends. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: I meet Tim Tebow and tell you the story of

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Speaker 2: the time the Pope influenced an entire generation to sip

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Speaker 2: the Devil's drink. Plus a conversation about looking for the

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Speaker 2: good in the world and getting more vulnerable with age.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode is not sponsored by Bananas Deliciously ripe for

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Speaker 2: exactly fifteen minutes. But first a word from our actual sponsor.

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Speaker 3: Johnny, is time to take a little trip down to

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Speaker 3: banter Town. Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 2: We're back, We're out here.

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Speaker 1: We've been both on the road. No.

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Speaker 4: Now, I know that you say you travel a lot,

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Speaker 4: but bro, you do you still travel more?

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Speaker 2: No, but you're it's yours. I would say your travels

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Speaker 2: more stressful than mine, because you're trying to take care

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Speaker 2: of wife and child and see to her development as

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Speaker 2: a volleyball player in the world and a person of personage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with three tournaments, her.

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Speaker 2: Personhood is it's on the line. Yeah, I just have

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Speaker 2: to do a comedy show and get out.

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Speaker 1: I'm raising a human yeah, and yours. I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 1: You'ren't even raising yourself, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: No, I've decided not to grow up. That's why i

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Speaker 2: chose this job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that must be nice.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

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Speaker 4: You basically have the life that everybody wants, and I

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Speaker 4: hope you were aware.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's be careful. So let's be careful what we

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Speaker 1: wish for a.

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Speaker 4: Lot of confusion maybe that people have about what your

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Speaker 4: life is about, because I know the real Johnny you

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Speaker 4: do on the inside.

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Speaker 1: I know there's a big crying baby just right now.

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Speaker 2: I do. Mean it's I don't know it is, but no,

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Speaker 2: there's challenges, but it's fun and uh and I don't

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Speaker 2: have to play volleyball. That's my favorite part.

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Speaker 1: Well, we drove to Atlanta, which you know is a

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Speaker 1: lovely drive.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's beautiful. Yeah, we got to go over Mon Eagle.

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Speaker 2: I want to go over the The truckers try to

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Speaker 2: pass each other going I want to go two miles

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Speaker 2: faster than you. I'm going to stay and block this lane.

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Speaker 4: Forts that I'm pretty certain. But they did, they did

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Speaker 2: There's laws against you going as fast as you want

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Speaker 2: to go to though, John if we're honest, how fast

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Speaker 2: do you want to go?

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Speaker 1: We're not talking about that.

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Speaker 2: You need one of those What's cool about money Egill

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Speaker 2: is they have those runaway ramps. You ever want to

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Speaker 2: do one of those just for fun, just go into

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Speaker 2: one of the big sand yeah mountains, just to be

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Speaker 2: able to destroy your car.

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Speaker 1: And would you think it would I would say it

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Speaker 1: would hurt.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe not if I had that old lecture.

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Speaker 2: Go with a rental, get that extra five dollars of insurance.

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Speaker 2: What my brakes sort of going out? Wh's wrong with

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Speaker 2: you people? What was I to do?

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Speaker 1: So we because you can't drive through Chattanooga anymore.

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Speaker 2: Without said horse and buggy.

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Speaker 4: No, So we drove through Chattanoga pretty quickly. And then,

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Speaker 4: which is crazy, hasn't happened in like five years. But

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of traffic there.

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Speaker 1: We can't get through. Had a new game without.

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Speaker 4: Other people are trying to stop you by getting in

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Speaker 2: Of it anyway, I've got important stuff to do.

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Speaker 4: And then we got to Atlanta, and she so she

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Speaker 4: had a prospect camp in North Carolina near Charlotte. But

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Speaker 4: meaning that all the kids get to wear the parents.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't it run when they get sweaty.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe. I looks in mascara. It was like

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Speaker 1: She got invited to this prospect camp.

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Speaker 4: It was a beach camp, okay, And so literally then

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Speaker 2: Marda flew no.

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Speaker 1: No, they have a train specifically at the Commission Center

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Speaker 2: You run above the ground.

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Speaker 4: Because this is the Georgia International it's connected to the airport. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and it was crazy.

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Speaker 1: It was a crazy time.

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Speaker 2: No, you win. I had my own journey, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: you win. You I won't even tell my story.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I will tell you this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I had the most like mid forties dad moment in

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Speaker 4: the airport. So we didn't check. We just carried on everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and they were like, We're going to check this suitcase.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna tell his little secret.

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Speaker 4: I have a pocket knife that I've now gone through

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Speaker 4: like four airport.

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Speaker 2: Pull it on somebody. If they decided to check your bag,

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Speaker 4: It's in there the air and they never they never

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Speaker 4: find it, Like I just fly with this pocket knife.

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Speaker 4: And so I thought they found the pocket knife. He

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Speaker 4: was like, usually there's a pair of needlenose pliers in here.

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I keep those. Is that not allowed?

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Speaker 2: Because this is how this is how you know, that's

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Speaker 2: how I pulled ticks off midflight.

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Speaker 1: I keep needlenosed.

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Speaker 2: Vice ice cripts around because when you go to hotels,

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Speaker 2: you never know, you never know, Like all the time.

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Speaker 1: I need to I need to take something apart. I

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Speaker 2: What are you fix it in a hotel? Dude? Where

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Speaker 2: hotels are you staying in? You know you got to

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Speaker 2: replace a new washer on the faucet because it's leaking

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Speaker 2: these days, ends aren't what they used to be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like you know you need.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta get needles and kill a bedbug too.

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Speaker 2: You gotta nip them. You gotta nip those things. Why

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Speaker 2: do you need needlenose? You you just like having you

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Speaker 2: need them?

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Speaker 4: So the guy take them out. I've never once needed

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Speaker 4: parent need those players, like it depends on how big

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Speaker 4: they are. So he opens up the bag, takes me out.

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Speaker 4: He's like these are great, These are fine, and I

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Speaker 4: was like, dude, that's the best tool. Iver's like, no,

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Speaker 4: these are awesome. Everyone needs one of these. When we

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Speaker 4: had this whole conversation, I was like this really, this

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Speaker 2: And then he but he missed your knife. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: don't they run it through the scanner. They don't see

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Speaker 2: it in the scam.

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Speaker 1: They see Apparently, I feel like I'm given listen. If

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Speaker 2: You have some kind of sheath that covers the X rays?

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Speaker 1: It's just a pocket knife.

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Speaker 4: But if you're listening and it's not in good faith

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Speaker 4: right now, please, I'm not giving you any ideas.

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Speaker 2: What are you? Are you hiding this thing?

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Speaker 1: I just it's like right there in my little toiletry thing.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, yeah, just a pocket knife.

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Speaker 4: It's folded, it's closed. I've never done anything nefarious with it.

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Speaker 4: I just need to cut things sometimes.

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Speaker 2: And needle nose things.

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Speaker 4: Say they put these wristbands on when you go in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's charm.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you know that when we go, you know.

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Speaker 2: What takes those wristbands off for a while? That knife

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Speaker 2: or a needle nose. That's right when you just pull

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Speaker 4: You're already paying thousands of dollars for the for the fees,

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Speaker 4: you're rather paying thousands off for the hotel, and then

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Speaker 4: when you go they also charge you as parents to

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Speaker 2: Isn't kids sports a scam? I mean, will you admit

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Speaker 2: it to me even though you're in it? Isn't it

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Speaker 2: a scam one hundred.

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Speaker 4: Well, I will not say it's a scam, but it

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Speaker 4: is a money making endeavor.

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm not saying that the clubs are all making

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Speaker 1: And it's tough the club fees.

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Speaker 2: I get somebody's making money.

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Speaker 4: But the tournaments when twenty five thousand people come and

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Speaker 4: so they're getting giving these things and then you pay.

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Speaker 2: I did Sue Falls South Dakota went up there to do.

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Speaker 2: My buddy Tom Henderson does the thing up there called

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Speaker 2: Restoration Generation. It's a big men's ministry thing, and he

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Speaker 2: does this event called Resident Men's Summit every year.

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Speaker 1: Imblody's shortened it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Resident, So I've done it. This is my third time.

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Speaker 2: tenth year, we're moving it to the arena. It's grown

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Speaker 2: every year. Wow. So there's an arena there and he goes,

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Speaker 2: we think we're going to have about five thousand men.

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Speaker 2: I go, oh man. So he was very excited. Tom

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Speaker 2: is such a great guy. And I go, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'll come vicecripts. It is one hundred percent. Yeah, no

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Speaker 2: metal detectors at the building. They were So here was

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Speaker 2: the poster, me, John Maxwell, Tim Tebow. Wow. And then

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Speaker 2: my buddy Sammy out of Bay who is out of Toledo, Ohio,

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Speaker 2: just I felt like a little bit of like a

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Speaker 2: fish out of water. What am I doing there? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh man, you're hey, listen on you except two championships.

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Speaker 2: So he got there late. So all that said, my brother,

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Speaker 2: my brother went with me, and of course the whole

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Speaker 2: day he was just like, I want to get a

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Speaker 2: photo of Tebow. Dude. I don't want to be the

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Speaker 2: you know it's going to be a whole thing, right,

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Speaker 2: I go, we will try. I'll promise you we'll try

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be weird, and then Tebow walks by

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Speaker 2: us to go on stage. He was the last session

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Speaker 2: and you just.

441
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Speaker 1: Take a skateboard and go outside. Or yeah, they would

442
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Speaker 1: drop us off at Ipperland, USA.

443
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Speaker 2: Skateboar would have been dangerous for me.

444
00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,359
Speaker 1: Well, it was probably dangerous for me too.

445
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,760
Speaker 2: I fell lost straight to the er.

446
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Speaker 1: But yeah, hey, John, I think it's about that.

447
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it.

448
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Speaker 1: It's my segment. We call. They talked about that Bridget

449
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Speaker 1: of Sweden.

450
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Speaker 2: She just gets to be Bridget of Sweden, no last name,

451
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Speaker 2: thirteen o three to thirteen seventy three. Okay, that's why

452
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Speaker 2: there wasn't bringing in Bridgetes then I.

453
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Speaker 4: Would imagine not a Swedish mystic saint and founder of

454
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Speaker 4: the Brigittine religious order.

455
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Speaker 2: Well that makes sense.

456
00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's that. I like something that the bridge,

457
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,640
Speaker 4: it's called what it is, you know what I'm saying now.

458
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Speaker 2: To be confused with Bridgerton, that's a.

459
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Speaker 4: I think it's so old that this is attributed to

460
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Speaker 4: her and her writings called revelations.

461
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Speaker 2: The Bridgetine Revelations.

462
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Speaker 1: Right, But I mean again, there's a chance.

463
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Speaker 4: I always want to say that there's a chance if

464
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,879
Speaker 4: you're a scholar out there, maybe you know a better

465
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,920
Speaker 4: original source of this. But this is pretty widely attributed

466
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Speaker 4: to her. To write well and speak well is mere

467
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Speaker 4: vanity if one does not live.

468
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Speaker 2: Well, oh well, that's almost like first Qrientian's thirteen. It says,

469
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,439
Speaker 2: if I, you know, sound like an angel, if I

470
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Speaker 2: sing like an angel, or if I can reveal all

471
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 2: mysteries but have not love, I'm nothing.

472
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Speaker 4: Yeah No, And it it gets me because I think

473
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,000
Speaker 4: of my twenties, and I think about or even my

474
00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 4: late teens when I first started songwriting and stuff, and

475
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 4: you just don't you just can't know what you haven't experienced.

476
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,160
Speaker 4: And then, like I was thinking about, I mentioned it today,

477
00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,439
Speaker 4: there was a I wrote these three books. It was

478
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 4: really one book, and my first agent said, hey, bringing

479
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 4: you the thing that's on your heart. And I had

480
00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 4: this thing called No Rivals and that's the name of

481
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,360
Speaker 4: my company. By the way, is no rival to LC

482
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Speaker 4: that I write under. And it was this whole like basically,

483
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 4: I mean, it's more, way more than this. But how

484
00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,600
Speaker 4: like quantification robs us of the process. So if you

485
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 4: stop and everything's account, everything's about how much you make

486
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 4: or how many people you had or whatever.

487
00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 2: Right or feeling like you're behind chronologically, Well, my friends

488
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,560
Speaker 2: were eighteen when they had this experience, and I'm not

489
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 2: there yet. So now I feel like I've missed out right.

490
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 4: You haven't arrived and everyone else has. And it's a

491
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 4: great thing for your twenties. You begin to realize. I

492
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,560
Speaker 4: was begin to realize, Oh, I think that if Johnny

493
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 4: and I got a record deal, then I'll be complete. Yeah, right,

494
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 4: and then you have enough things happened to you, whether

495
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,359
Speaker 4: it's marriage, and I used to want to speak on it.

496
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Speaker 4: I would have like, Okay, I want to name a

497
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Speaker 4: few ages. You tell me the big thing that happens

498
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Speaker 4: at that age. Okay, you're born, Now what happens at five?

499
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Speaker 4: You're gonna go to kindergarten. What happens at twelve or

500
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Speaker 4: so where you're a teenager, you're gonna start middle school?

501
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 4: What happens at eighteen and they can always name it,

502
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 4: you're gonna graduate? What happens at twenty one? Oh, I

503
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 4: can drink now, I can do this. What happens? And

504
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 4: eventually then what happens in your thirties, your twenties, you

505
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 4: get married, your thirties, you striving kids or whatever. It's

506
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 4: like we can sum our lives up in like ten

507
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 4: or twelve things, and we've moved so fast through them,

508
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 4: trying to get.

509
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Speaker 1: To the next arrival point is what i'd call it.

510
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,479
Speaker 4: That eventually you're like trying to slow those things down

511
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Speaker 4: because you're getting closer now to their a point of death,

512
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 4: so like you don't really live, you know, in that process.

513
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 4: And so anyway, I wrote it all and thought this

514
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 4: was I mean, for me, it was very it was

515
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Speaker 4: a proving ground of content that I really needed to

516
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Speaker 4: try to seek contentment and other things. Gave it to

517
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Speaker 4: the guy. It was so big, it was one hundred

518
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 4: and fifty thousand words. Yeah, and he was like, I

519
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 4: don't get it. You're dropped and like dropped me. He said,

520
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 4: good luck to you in the future. That's pretty close

521
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 4: and I.

522
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Speaker 2: Have dropped you.

523
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah you aren't. Yeah, and so but I remember thinking

524
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Speaker 4: this is to me. The writing was supposed to be

525
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 4: published like it was supposed to I wanted to write

526
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 4: well and speak well. I wanted to be these things

527
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Speaker 4: that I kind of had a little bit of talent

528
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Speaker 4: to do or a calling to do. And then as

529
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 4: life went on, which I never did publish that, so

530
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 4: I turned it into three books, and I think I

531
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 4: had almost had a deal with a denominational publisher. And

532
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,879
Speaker 4: then the day basically I was getting the contract, a kid,

533
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Speaker 4: you not, was the day they shut down all of

534
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Speaker 4: their brick and mortar stores. Oh right, and they was like, hey,

535
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 4: all of our contracts are going to be put on hold.

536
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 4: So it never got made. And I look back now

537
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 4: and I'm kind of grateful because it's like, I don't

538
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 4: know if I knew how to live well, you know

539
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Like there was some good there were

540
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: some really cool things I wrote in there, but I

541
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: mean you look at it and go, what is a

542
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Speaker 4: twenty five year old really gonna teach me about living? Well,

543
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 4: because you can't until you've had some time. I'm still

544
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Speaker 4: not sure. Now I'm more I'm less.

545
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Speaker 1: Likely to think I could teach on that.

546
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Speaker 4: But I just think it's really telling that there's so

547
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 4: many things I don't even think about.

548
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Speaker 1: What you do.

549
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 4: You go back and listen to old jokes and stuff.

550
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: Now you've always had the talent for funny, but you're

551
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 4: so much more sharpened now to know exactly what how

552
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: you want your version of this to happen and what

553
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: you don't want to happen.

554
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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes you go back and I'll find like an

555
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: old joke that didn't really work, but I'll be like, well,

556
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: I'm a better comedian now, let me go look at

557
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: it again and see it hopefully through new eyes or whatever.

558
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you still can't get to work because it was

559
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: never a good idea, But every now and again you'll

560
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: be like, oh, there's something there, and now with more

561
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: confidence or more finesse, maybe I can do something with it.

562
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: If sometimes you can, Yeah, there's there's definitely a proving

563
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 2: ground on that stuff. But yeah, I mean, yeah, you

564
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: don't know what you don't know, And like everybody has

565
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 2: that whole analogy of like in church world, do we

566
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 2: have the couple that gets married six months later, they're

567
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: doing a marriage seminar. They're doing a book and a

568
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: fifty two week devotional on marriage. God's way, dude. They're like,

569
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 2: all right, dude, calm down.

570
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Speaker 1: Not one of my fighter moments that I can remember.

571
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Speaker 1: We had a I think it was Allison.

572
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Speaker 4: Who's been on the podcast before, was interning at Thomas

573
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 4: Nelson and she came to church one night and she

574
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: had the pre release version of The Bachelor.

575
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Speaker 1: One of the Bachelor guys got.

576
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Speaker 4: A book deal at the biggest Christian publisher in the world. Okay,

577
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: and I, of course I was doing a lot of

578
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: premratal counseling and stuff for a lot of young couples.

579
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Speaker 1: Then I was so mad and jealous.

580
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: Right because just because the platform, the fifteen minutes of fame,

581
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 2: now he gets a book deal.

582
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 4: I was like one in the world, like he is

583
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: not been married yet. Really, he's just now in this

584
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 4: and through a horrible process. In my opinion, that's you know,

585
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 4: I'm not saying you can't watch The Bachelor.

586
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, do you.

587
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 4: It's not a traditional way, and he probably now in retrospect,

588
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 4: he probably had a writer writing great things in there

589
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: as well and taking his concepts and making them more grounded.

590
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 4: And that's a great publisher and they do great work,

591
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 4: you know. But I just I remember that feeling of

592
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 4: you haven't had a chance to live this, you know, Andrew,

593
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 4: we just had lunch with, you know, my pastor and

594
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: one of our dear friends, my boss. Like that dude,

595
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 4: the older he's gotten, he lives, he lives better. Yeah,

596
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 4: And that's kind of like I look at him and go,

597
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 4: he he's more honest, not more closed off.

598
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: He's more likely to help others, not less.

599
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: It's more vulnerable, yeah, more likely to laugh, more likely

600
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: to cry. Yeah, he's he's not closed off. Some people

601
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: get really closed off and bitter. And it's not like

602
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: he hasn't anything happened to him. He's definitely got reasons.

603
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: Everybody's got a reason to be better. Yeah, you're right,

604
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 2: that's where you want to go. Yeah. I see people.

605
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: There's older people in my life that I've met and

606
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 2: I been mentored by a little bit on along the way.

607
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: And some people I don't know like have to do

608
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: relationship with. But I see him and you just go like,

609
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: there's one guy that was like an early Christian pioneer

610
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: of like comedy. He was in a group called Isaac

611
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: Airfred in California and they would do sketch comedy. They

612
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: were kind of like a Monty pythonish And anyway, he

613
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 2: went on to produce like David Letterman shows, and he

614
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 2: produced The Prices Right for a while, and he did

615
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: all these other things. But when I would see him

616
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: speak at like Christian Comedy Association, he would speak to

617
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: the group and he just did not have a tinge

618
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: of because he could have easily been like that, you

619
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 2: guys are all here because I started this thing and

620
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: made fifty bucks a night, and there was just none

621
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: of that. He still loved God, he still loved his wife,

622
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: he still loved the church. He was happy that everybody

623
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: was like benefiting from what he had laid the groundwork for.

624
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to thirty years from now

625
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: when I'm ready to walk away. I hope I'm more

626
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: like that than I am, you know now.

627
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely I don't want too. And I think it.

628
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 1: I see the old curmudgeon temptation.

629
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: Sure, I see it's just easy yeah.

630
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: To like, okay, to see through everything right.

631
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: And it's like shorting the stock You ever see people

632
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: who like because now it's a big thing in the

633
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: stock market. You go, you bet on a company to fail. Yeah,

634
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: you're rooting for it to fail.

635
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

636
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: And so it's like we have a whole generation of

637
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: people who are like betting against their own relationships because

638
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: they're like, I'll prove myself right, Yeah, But meanwhile, you're

639
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: sabotaging the relationship by betting against it with your attitude

640
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: every day. Yeah, you're doubling down on this short and

641
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: then when your marriage in you go, I knew it. Yeah,

642
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 2: she must have not been the one. You're like, dude,

643
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 2: you've been shorting this for twenty years.

644
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: No, you're right, I mean, and I'd say it all

645
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 4: the time in my house, Like, you know, you will

646
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: find what you spend your time looking for to some extent.

647
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 4: And if you're always looking for the negative or you're

648
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: always looking for something like, you will self fulfill We

649
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: all will, you know.

650
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: And I think the hard part life is.

651
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 4: My definition of hope, right, And Reggie and I are

652
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: starting to write on some of this, just that it's

653
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 4: looking for the good, always looking for the good that

654
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 4: is to come. I mean, whenever I'm in can I

655
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 4: one by faith is believing that good exists even though

656
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: I can't see it. Hope is actively moving my attitude

657
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Speaker 4: towards a place of expectancy of I'm going to keep

658
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Speaker 4: looking for it in wonder how long it takes believing

659
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Speaker 4: that good is ahead. And then I think maturity in

660
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Speaker 4: Christ is learning to allow God to define that good

661
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Speaker 4: and not just your expectations of the current circumstance. And

662
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Speaker 4: that's the hard part, right, learning to look for the

663
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Speaker 4: good in God, his nearness or the little things that

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Speaker 4: He does in the middle of a crisis to still

665
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Speaker 4: bring a moment of relief. I mean, you know, I

666
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Speaker 4: think you begin to hopefully look beyond just the big

667
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Speaker 4: outcome and see the sustaining moments of it. Listened to

668
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: asalng twenty three song by Shane and Shane and some

669
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 4: of my favorites, and just really hit me that surely goodness,

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Speaker 4: surely mercy ride beside me all my days, and like

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Speaker 4: just that idea that there's an expectancy in David's words

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Speaker 4: about there is a goodness inherently because I'm following the

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Speaker 4: shepherd that's there even though I'm walking through a valley

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Speaker 4: that's full of death. And even though the enemies surround me,

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Speaker 4: and there's a shepherd wrote a book about that they

676
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Speaker 4: would call the table was this elevated part of where

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Speaker 4: the land was. So if the sheep in the valley

678
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Speaker 4: that you know, you go to the you'd be at

679
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Speaker 4: the table. If it pairs a table before me could

680
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 4: mean something for the shepherd and the sheep, not just

681
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 4: for an actual table, meaning like where that table was,

682
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Speaker 4: where they would be would be lower and elevated around them.

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Speaker 4: The predators could be watching them as they ate or whatever,

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Speaker 4: but they would eat in peace because they knew.

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Speaker 1: The shepherd knew that the predators were there. He was

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Speaker 1: watching more than the predators were.

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Speaker 4: And so so you're not just pray like, you're also protected.

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Speaker 1: And I just think looking for that goods hard to do,

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Speaker 1: you know, and.

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Speaker 4: I don't do it well every day, but you will

691
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Speaker 4: find to some extent what it is you look for.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Bridget of Sweden.

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Speaker 2: Bridget, she knew what she was talking about.

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Speaker 4: I want to say her name is also written says

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Speaker 4: Saint Burgita of Sweden. Okay, so that's the Swedish spelling. No,

696
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Speaker 4: I don't speak Swedish per se.

697
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Speaker 2: No, I mean the Swedish chef, right, come on, yeah,

698
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Speaker 2: let me be the one that gets the emails. John,

699
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Speaker 2: Where would you send an email for the show?

700
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Speaker 1: You just send it to Hello, talk about that podcast

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Speaker 1: dot com.

702
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that podcast dot com. Where

703
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: you want to see almost four hundred episodes of the show.

704
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: If you want to catch up binge listen, do it

705
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Speaker 2: to it. We love you and support the show. If

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Speaker 2: you want to go to that website, click the upright

707
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Speaker 2: hand link. Get at free content by becoming a patron.

708
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Speaker 2: We love our patron. John. Let's do my segments. Let's

709
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: start with old jokes. We call a joke about that John.

710
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: A guy walks into a bar with a sad look

711
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Speaker 2: on his face. The regular sees him and says, hey,

712
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: you're doing all right? I'm doing terrible, says the guy.

713
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: I'm having money troubles. The only option I got left

714
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Speaker 2: is to sell my beloved dog. So I'm just traveling

715
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: around town asking anyone that wants to buy him off me.

716
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Speaker 2: He's in the car now. I'm sorry to hear that,

717
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: says the regular. What are you asking for him? Five

718
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: hundred dollars? The man says, well, that's a lot of

719
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Speaker 2: money for a dog. Well, it's like a dog is

720
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: like a part of my family. He's the gentalist, sweetest

721
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 2: dog you've ever seen. He never barks unless there's an intruder,

722
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: in which case he turns into the meanest mutt that

723
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Speaker 2: ever lived. And when he needs to go, he just

724
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 2: nudgs your leg once or twice, and then he'll sit

725
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Speaker 2: by the door and wait till you're ready to let

726
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Speaker 2: him out. My kids and wife love him and are

727
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: gonna hate me for selling him, but I just don't

728
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Speaker 2: have any other options. At this point, the regular says, well, geez,

729
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: if the dog is that in it, I'll take him.

730
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Speaker 2: I'd be happy to help you out. A year later,

731
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: the walks into the bar again. This time the regular's

732
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: there again, but he screams, you you sold me that

733
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: good for nothing dog. He does everything. He poops all

734
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: over the house, he barks constantly. He tries to bite

735
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: my wife and kids every chance he gets. I swear

736
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Speaker 2: the day I bought that dog was the last good

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Speaker 2: day I've had. The man looks at the regular, smile

738
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: and says, mister, you're never ever going to sell that dog.

739
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Speaker 2: If you keep talking about him like that.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

741
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Speaker 2: It's a joke about lying really if you think about it. Finally,

742
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: I wanted to do a joke from our friend Taylor Wimson.

743
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: Taylor Williamson is a great comic out of LA. I

744
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: met him when I was filling my second dry bar.

745
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 2: He was doing his dry bar that night, and he's

746
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: so great. He won, well, he came in second on AGT.

747
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: I think he won because the team that beat him

748
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: was a Japanese dog act on America's Got Talent, which

749
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: he does talk about in his shops. Yeah, but that

750
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 2: happens a lot. You know, they don't ever realize a

751
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: comedian fully win. They'll make you a finalist. But anyway,

752
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: Taylor's so good and he has one He has one

753
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: great joke. This was his opener on the drive Bar.

754
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: He said, you know, you really go to shoot for

755
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: your dreams. You got to just stay positive. It's all

756
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: about perspective. When I started doing comedy ten years ago,

757
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: I had nothing. I had no prospects. I was really

758
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: struggling to pay my rent. And now just ten years later,

759
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: I'm a more respected comedian than Bill Cosby. So that's Taylor.

760
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: So this is a joke that Taylor wrote, and we'll

761
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: wrap up a joke about that with this one. He said,

762
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Speaker 2: I drove by a guy with a sign that said hungry,

763
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: so I gave him my sandwich. I felt really good

764
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Speaker 2: about myself until I got home and I remember why

765
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: I bought my sandwich. I'm not proud of this, but

766
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: I drove back to the guy and I said, listen,

767
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry, but I'm gonna need that sign. I

768
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: just think that's such a funny. I think that's great.

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Speaker 2: Taylor's great. You follow him on follow him on Instagram

770
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: at at Taylor Comedy at Taylor Comedy. John. Let's wrap

771
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Speaker 2: it up with this week in history. We call it

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Speaker 2: talk about then do do dom John? Pope Clement the

773
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Speaker 2: eighth was born this week fifteen thirty six, and the

774
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: reason he makes the list is because he popularized quote

775
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: Satan's drink. Do you want to guess what Satan's drink is?

776
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: Coffee?

777
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: Yes? Italian religious leader two hundred and thirty first Pope

778
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Speaker 2: from fifteen ninety two to sixteen oh five. He declared,

779
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Speaker 2: did Pope Clement, this Satan's drink is so delicious that

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00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: it would be a pity to let the infidels have

781
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: exclusive use of it. That's almost like who was the

782
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: guy that said, why should the devil have all the

783
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: good music? Because now we started making our own rock

784
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: and roll music in Christian culture, And that was the

785
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: sentiment being, why should the devil have all the good music?

786
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 2: You know, God made all music. Why are we letting

787
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Speaker 2: them have all the electric guitars? So here was Pope

788
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Speaker 2: Clement saying, hey, these infidels are having some fun with

789
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Speaker 2: this coffee.

790
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: Let's get a hawk up ourselves.

791
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 2: Come on, man, what's better than a revitalized flock?

792
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: Uh?

793
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: You like that? He uh? He's responsible for the popularity

794
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: of coffee use among Catholics. Coffee was used previously, or

795
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: coffee use was previously discouraged because it was believed to

796
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: be the quote bitter invention of Satan due to its

797
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: use among Muslims. I didn't know that, so they thought

798
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: of it as a Muslim drink. And then these Catholics

799
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: were like, they got something over here. Yeah, they're streaming

800
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: hot water through veins and it's pretty good. Have a

801
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: sipp and well, let me know what you think. It's

802
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, crusades, that's my that's my pope cleming impression.

803
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 2: And I defy you, I defy you to find a

804
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: better pope cleming impression than that one.

805
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: It's everybody has a pope clem impression yours.

806
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: I like to think that people when they do a

807
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: pope clement, they're just doing my pope claim.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, They're just like, there's only one really, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's a little Dennis Miller chip chip chip chip pip

810
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Speaker 2: okay John this week, UH February twenty, eighteen thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: The first practical electric motor is patented by Thomas Davenport.

812
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: This was the first US patent for an electric machine

813
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 2: eighteen thirty seven, Patent number one thirty two. That's when

814
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: you know it's an old when it's patent number one

815
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Speaker 2: thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

817
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: He used silk from his wife's wedding dress for insulation

818
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: for the wiring. Davenport was unable, however, to capitalize on

819
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: his inmension and died broke. There's a lot of those guys.

820
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: That's why he makes the list because it's kind of sad.

821
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: It's one of those like you make this thing that's

822
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: gonna end up changing the world, but you don't quite

823
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: ever get to see it.

824
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe that's like our podcast.

825
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when we're gone, they're gonna be like

826
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Speaker 2: those guys really were on they got it.

827
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They probably made about three hundred too many, like we

829
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Speaker 2: get it after one hundred, but man uh And I

830
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Speaker 2: also use silk from my wife's wedding dress for this

831
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Speaker 2: podcast's no yeah, for insulation. It's in my it's inside

832
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: my hoodie right now in a weird way. John This

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Speaker 2: Week nineteen eighty one, a nine year old bank robber

834
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: robbed a New York bank at gunpoint. Okay, he got

835
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Speaker 2: away with one hundred and eighteen dollars, but later surrendered

836
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: to the FBI. This made me look up this story

837
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: because that's all it had, So I looked it up

838
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: to see what happened and what's the story. Nineteen eighty one,

839
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Speaker 2: nine year old boy named Robert. Doesn't say his full

840
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: name because it's probably sealed. He surrendered after using a

841
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: toy gun to rob a Manhattan bank. Quotes on rob

842
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 2: a case his lawyer argued was influenced by television crime shows.

843
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: The New York Times reported the child was charged with

844
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: armed robbery and weapon possession in family court, the boy,

845
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: described as four foot five inches tall, walked into New

846
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: York bank and demanded money. The weapon used was a

847
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: toy gun. His lawyer, mel A Sachs, argued that the

848
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: child did not have true criminal intent, but instead was

849
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: imitating behavior you saw on television shows like Adam twelve

850
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: in The Rockford Files. The case was handling and family

851
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: court were Penalties for such acts typically involved probation or

852
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: an extreme cases, confinement and a juvenile treatment facility. It

853
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: does not say what happened to the boy. That's what

854
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: I was really looking for, is like what did he get?

855
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: I think it all got sealed and maybe it was

856
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: just like one of those like all right, he was

857
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: just being a knucklehead and no harm, no foul. He

858
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 2: could never really hurt anybody, was a toy gun, right,

859
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: So what do you think about that? What if Sadie

860
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 2: had done something like that when she was nine? Would

861
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: you be like, I'll be a little upset. Yeah, it's embarrassing,

862
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: you know, to make the paper. You're like, what kind

863
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: where are the parents?

864
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm right here? Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know.

865
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Speaker 2: It was my idea, I said one hundred and eighteen dollars?

866
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? If they didn't even pay the mortgage.

867
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Speaker 1: I wonder why they only gave him one hundred and

868
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Speaker 1: eighteen dollars.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but this was did they know day one?

870
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean this is.

871
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Speaker 1: I think I would have been like, but why give

872
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Speaker 1: him anything at all?

873
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

874
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe maybe it was like that. Maybe it

875
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: was like one of those pellet guns that looks kind

876
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: of real.

877
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, this is before they started putting the orange,

878
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: so it probably did look really really.

879
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Speaker 1: You know, this is before that you ever had that

880
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: pelagun that looked like a magnum p.

881
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: I my mom would let me have guns. We were

882
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: my mom was terrified of guns. Yeah yeah, we never

883
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: had BB guns. We were in a very nerve household.

884
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I had BB guns and we have.

885
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: Were very you'll put your eye out kind of household.

886
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably almost did out a few times. I think

887
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: I got hit right here in the cheek mo one

888
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: time with a pelican with a BB gun. Yeah, would

889
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: have been bad.

890
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 2: But yeah when I yeah, man, there's.

891
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: Also bottle rockets explode up on my face too.

892
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: What we didn't so my mom was right is what

893
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: we're saying.

894
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I lived through it, and a.

895
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: Lot of people don't. Did the people around you, did

896
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: they have a John Driver story?

897
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: How like in Roman candle wars and stuff.

898
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: You shot Roman candles at other people?

899
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 4: They we did stuff and I was there fireballs John

900
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 4: they are and yeah.

901
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: Just like from ancient Rome, if you remember, that's how

902
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: they fought the wars the Roman. Where did they come

903
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: up with that? The Roman candle?

904
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't know.

905
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 2: It is interesting.

906
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: I wonder it maybe it was actually made in Rome,

907
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: not like I don't know. They had fireworks in ancient times.

908
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chinese, ancient Chinese fireworks as possible gunpowder was all.

909
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: There's no way to know.

910
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: So, yeah, because we used that's the thing was that

911
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: was gunpowder used for fireworks before it became a weapon weaponized.

912
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: I think it was.

913
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Speaker 1: I think it was like they probably didn't call it that.

914
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody figured out, oh, we can use this to

915
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: dominate other civilizations and win wars, kill people really more efficiently.

916
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great equalizers.

917
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: They were just celebrating with them, look at all the

918
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: fire in the sky, and then they're like, hold on,

919
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 2: I got an idea we should wipe out people.

920
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a time when the size and skill

921
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: of the fighter mattered more and then all of a sudden,

922
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 4: anybody with a gun could win a fight.

923
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: So and guys, isn't that just like our lives?

924
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Somehow I don't like it. I don't like it

925
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: one bit. John. Finally, this week in seventeen fifty one,

926
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Speaker 2: the first performing monkey in the US. That's right, John,

927
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: in New York City. Man charged a shilling to watch

928
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: a two foot tall monkey walk a tightrope and dance.

929
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen What do you think about animal shows?

930
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: Because some people like they frowned. You know, it's like,

931
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: now we know more about them. Elephants aren't really in

932
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: the circus anymore. Necessarily, there's a lot of Is it

933
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 2: a big deal for a monkey to walk a tight rope?

934
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: Was he being starved? Was he being coerced walked tight rope?

935
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: Was the wire electrified? We don't know what's going on.

936
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: I don't know.

937
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: I need more information.

938
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a very impressive trick, and you

939
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 4: should get your shilling back.

940
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: Number one.

941
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: But number two, how much was a shilling?

942
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: Was that worth a halfpence?

943
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: But it reminded me. I was in Gallenburg one time

944
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: and I think I told you this and you didn't

945
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Speaker 2: believe me. And I literally found a photo of it today,

946
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: so it's real. We'll put it on the we'll put

947
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: it on the video, okay. But I was in Gallenburg

948
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: walking around downtown. You know Callmburg's just a haven for weird's. Yeah,

949
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: you know, there's sweet shops and there's the saltwater Taffic

950
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: and then you go to some weird tourist trap thing

951
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: and there's the Ripleys. Believe it or not, you don't

952
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: know what you're there street performers every now and again. Yeah,

953
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: and it was just random starving people. And that's what

954
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: this was. It was a guy, he had a cup,

955
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: he was begging for money, but he had a dog.

956
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: On the dog's back was a cat, and on the

957
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: cat's back was a rat. They were stacked up. It's

958
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: they were just dottack and they were just coming down

959
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 2: the street. And I thought, nobody's gonna believe this story.

960
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: And I've carried that memory with me and it's a

961
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: core memory picture. And so today I didn't have a camp.

962
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: This was pre phone cameras. It was like the eighties,

963
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: but I looked it up. There's a whole Reddit thread

964
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: about it. The old dog cat They said, what's sad is?

965
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: They said that he sedates the cat and the rat.

966
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: But the dog was normal. The dogs just like, sure,

967
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: right on my back, fine, let's do it. But the cat.

968
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: How would they have the information to know that.

969
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: I think that somebody said, we've talked to him, you know,

970
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: back in the day. Oh, I have to drug the

971
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: other animals. But the dog's cool.

972
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: Maybe the dog, maybe the cat in rats life is better?

973
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think drug. The idea of it's the idea

974
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: of it sounds so cool. And we love those nature

975
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: videos where it's like a duck and a horse are

976
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: best friends, so like we're really primed for that whole height.

977
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 2: There's a symbiosis in nature and humans have come in

978
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: and messed it all up, but really animals want to

979
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: be friends. So it makes you believe in that weird

980
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: utopia of like there's a rat riding on a cat

981
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: riding on a dog, Are you kidding me? That means

982
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: we can all get along. And what it means is

983
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: there's a heavy we all drunk each other. We can

984
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: ride on each other's back freedom.

985
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's right there.

986
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: We can all live in a utopia. Yeah, I'm sorry

987
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: about that, but it's real. I was not imagining it

988
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: because there's photos of it. But did you think you

989
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: were drugged for a while like that? I thought maybe. Yeah, Well,

990
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 2: it's just one of those things you try to tell

991
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: people and they go, sure.

992
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: You look over and there's a rat on your back.

993
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like on top of it.

994
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, where did I get this?

995
00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: On top of that? A tinier rat. That's weird. I

996
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: don't know. That's fun, john Thanks for I want to

997
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: thank the listeners for taking a ride on our backs today.

998
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: We love to burrow you around like a packanimal.

999
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: We drug it, you're.

1000
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: Trying to take it. We're trying to take you down

1001
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: to various ravines and crevices, crevasses, crevasses. Yeah, and we're

1002
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: happy to do it.

1003
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1004
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: We can shoulder the load.

1005
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: We can.

1006
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: We can and you can also hear more of that

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00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 4: load at talk About That podcast dot com.

1008
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: Get a load at Talk about That podcast dot com.

1009
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Four hundred episodes, Like we said, and we appreciate you

1010
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: so much.

1011
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

1012
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: Hey, check out Johnny w jo in a iew dot

1013
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 4: com for you can come somewhere on his forty eight

1014
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 4: city tour.

1015
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: Oh, we just kicked it off last weekend and it

1016
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: continues this weekend. Depending on when you'll listening to this,

1017
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Speaker 2: we will be February twenty fifth, New Wilmington, Pennsylvania, February

1018
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Speaker 2: twenty sixth, Bedford, Indiana, February twenty eight, Newburgh, Indiana. March first,

1019
00:43:54,360 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: Silom Springs, Arkansas, March nineteenth, Destin, Florida, March twentieth, Pampino Beach, Florida,

1020
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Speaker 2: March twenty first, Tallahassee, Florida, and then March twenty second,

1021
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Speaker 2: gats In, Alabama. We're going all over the fruited playing John.

1022
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Speaker 2: We're bringing all the jokes and I'm touring with a

1023
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Speaker 2: gu named Christi McCartney who's a big viral sensation TikTok stock.

1024
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 2: He's a comedian. He has a virus and we're trying

1025
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: to we're trying to get treatment. No, he's got two

1026
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: million TikTok followers, some crazy numbers. So young too, his

1027
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: young guy been doing stand up for a few years.

1028
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: He's great. He's going to be on the shows and

1029
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 2: we've got my buddy Ed Wiley going out with this

1030
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 2: and so far these are going to be fun shows.

1031
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: Adam Bush one of our who helps produce the show

1032
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: some he's going to be out with me on some

1033
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: of those buzz tours. So and then you're going to

1034
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: join one of these days just to jump in the

1035
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: bunk and say hey and be out there run the

1036
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: merch table. I said, you just want to do nothing,

1037
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: commit to want to just want to soak up resources.

1038
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: I'm there to help with the moral, the morale. Let's

1039
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: not say I don't help it help.

1040
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: With morals or morale honestly. But anyway, come to a show.

1041
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: Check out Johnny w dot com if you want to

1042
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 2: find out ticket information and all that good stuff.

1043
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: We want fun.

1044
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 4: Hey, guys, thanks for Tommy Games today. We really enjoyed it.

1045
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 4: Let's do it again next week.

1046
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that.