WEBVTT - War in Iran 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.720 Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.440 Hillsdale Hillsdale dot ed or I encourage you to take 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:08.920 advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.280 course I listen to the Hillsdale Dialogue all of them 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.560 at Hugh for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:20.919 iTunes and Hillsdale. Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Hewett. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:24.600 United States Senator Tom Cotton represents the Great State of Arkansas. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.800 He's also Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Chairman of 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:30.600 the Republican Conference. Senator, thank you for making time for 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:35.080 me today. About an hour ago, US Central Command posted 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.800 some video and the statement. Two days ago, the Iranian 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.479 regime had eleven ships in the Gulf of Amon. Today 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:44.920 they have zero. What do you think the Chinese think 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.640 about this? And I want to tell the audience you 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.400 authored Seven Things you Can't Say about China. I've got 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.520 the book right here. What do you think our adversaries 0:00:52.520 --> 0:00:54.680 in China think about what they've seen in the last 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.400 seventy two hours? 0:00:56.720 --> 0:01:00.280 Well, she I think once again the Chinese communist can't 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:06.440 he please? Another signal display of strength, confidence, and resolution 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.840 by Donald Trump and the United States. More concretely and materially, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:14.720 one has to imagine that they're fearful about the loss 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.440 of black market oil coming from Iran that has been 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:23.400 helping prop up the Iyatolas regime, and at the prospect 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.320 of one of their chief and only allies in the 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:32.800 Middle East falling and returning back into the American fold. 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:37.400 Senator, I am very disappointed with one of our longtime allies, 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:40.040 the United Kingdom, and wondering whether or not they ought 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.479 to be in five Eyes anymore because they wouldn't support 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.360 us in this. And then Spain has absolutely disgraced itself. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.080 You know, I'm one of those Atlantisys in our party, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.360 but it makes it hard to argue with the isolation. 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.440 That's when our allies established in the back in the front. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:59.400 Well, the actions of both nations are somewhat disappointing you. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:04.080 At least the Prime Minister Starmer of Great Britain has 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:10.080 slightly modified his previous position allowing us to use basis 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:13.680 forty calls defensive positions. I would point out view that 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.680 this moment is a perfect example of why we need 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:22.440 total sovereignty over our military position in Greenland, both our 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:25.360 current one and our expanded one. This is why President 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.720 Trump has taken it so seriously. We cannot allow, for instance, 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:32.520 a future left wing government in Denmark to limit what 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.360 our military in Greenland needs to do in a moment 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:36.040 of crisis. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:40.560 That brings me to the message to Cuba in all 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.760 of this, and I'm jumping ahead here because first Venezuela, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.920 now Iran is under great stress. What is the message 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:48.600 to Cuba that they should be seeing. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.840 Well, Cuba is on the rope to you know for 0:02:53.280 --> 0:03:00.160 almost thirty years, actually over thirty years, I guess, be 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:03.080 at Russia propped up Cuba in the Castro regime, and 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:05.679 then Cuba's on the ropes in the nineties until Chavez 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.679 came along to prop up Cuba. And now they don't 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.120 have shave, they don't have anyone, and the Cuban government, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.000 really the entire Cuban economy is on the verge of 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.480 seizing up like a machine without oil because well they 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:25.520 don't have any oil to fund their economy and the 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.119 government they are and to use for energy. So that's 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.600 why the President has said that in conversations with Cuba, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:37.560 things are looking very positive. I bet many many folks 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.280 who are hanging on to the Castro regime or dream 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.240 dreaming them about a peaceful retirement alongside bacheor Alasade in 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.200 Moscow Right now, Senator. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.080 Is there any open source reporting on whether or not 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:53.360 an American cyber campaign of any sort of taking place. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:57.160 I haven't seen a word about cyber attacks in Iran, 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.280 but that may be because we're not reporting them. 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.960 I'm not aware of any specifics. But you did hear 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.320 General Kane, the Chairman of GOINT Chiefs this morning, say 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.680 that cyber Command and Space Command, we're both integral in 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.440 the operations in a run. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.720 Okay, so let me move then to the big question, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.479 which is the defense budget for next year. President Trump 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.680 is said on this program he'd like another half trillion 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.680 dollars of the nine hundred billion that's there. That's a 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.200 big lift. Center at Collins has said that. But if 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:27.839 we're going to do Golden Dome, and boy do we 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.720 need golden dome. And if we're going to reload the 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.919 munition stockpile, boy do we need a supplemental? Is that 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.240 something that reconciliation could deal with? 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.560 Well, you all on two of the three possibilities. There's 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:43.640 the possibility of a supplemental the possibility of reconciliation and 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.760 then the annual budget bill. But you're right where you're 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.960 going to have to have a significant defense increase, not 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.960 just to confront the gathering threats we face around the world, 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:54.360 but to continue to invest more and more into our 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.120 defense industry. We had Secretary Hesth in South Arkansas on 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.480 Friday on his Arsenal Freedom Tour. I've worked with these 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:04.840 companies for a long time. They've improved a lot over 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.240 the last few years in terms of their production rates, 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.720 but they need to do better and they know they 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.800 need to do better. And the Pentagon needs to do 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.920 better in cutting through red tape, and frankly, Congress needs 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:15.800 to do better as well. 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:16.520 We all need to. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:19.080 Do better for our troops on the front line and 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.839 the American people in producing missiles and missile defenses as 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.320 fast as we possibly can. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.000 Now what a defense appropriation fit within the rules for 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.320 reconciliation requiring just simple majorities, because I think you might 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.160 actually get some Democrats to vote for that. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.120 Yeah, you if you recall our bill last summer, the 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:39.120 Working Family's Tax Cut Act had a lot more than 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.720 just tax cuts. It had a significant investment of one 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:43.920 hundred and fifty billion dollars in our defense industry, and 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:50.000 much of that specifically was for additional munitions manufacturing and procurement. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.080 So our last question, could the weeks and months I 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:56.360 had prove is consequential to our position in the world 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.279 as the fall of the Wall in nineteen eighty nine, 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:03.800 If you're wrong, crumbles and the Middle East board changes dramatically, 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.440 could it be that consequential? 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.200 It certainly has the prospect that he, as Secretary of 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.520 Rubio said, there's no simple answers about what happens in 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.800 Iran if the government were at fall. We know certainly 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:21.520 that the Supreme leader was eliminated, getting his just deserts 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.880 for forty years of terror against his own people and 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.000 against Americans in the civilized world. But let's all hope 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:33.880 that when the smoke is cleared and we've reduced around's 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:37.039 nuclear facilities to rubble, and we have eliminated their missile arsenal. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.800 But also it's a new day for the Iranian people 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:44.200 and they have a pro American government that becomes an 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.560 anchor for peace and stability in the Middle East, not 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.080 revolutionary violence as they have been for forty seven years. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:53.680 Center Tom Cotton good to speak with you. Thank you 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.240 for spending time on a very bavy weekend. Take care 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.799 of Senator. I'm joined by Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery, retiring 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:03.599 United States Navy after thirty two years of service in 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.920 the uniform. He's not the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:11.040 where he's a senior fellow Admiral. You've been around for 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.960 the five big conflicts that I've been around for Panama, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:19.280 and then we've got the Yugoslavia Air campaign, Afghanistan, Iraq, 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:23.600 and then the Libyan campaign twenty eleven. What is different 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.840 about this war than those wars? 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.000 I think that's a great question because the issue is 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.520 the we're trying to do an air only campaign. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.400 Here. We've got six good lines of effort. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.200 I had, you know, raising care Dan Kane laid them out, 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.680 not saying six, but you know, laid them out. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:40.880 You know. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:46.320 IRGC leadership and facilities is one. Two is suppression of 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.360 enemy air defense, which I think we're almost near block 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:53.040 checked is two to three is the ballistic missile capabilities, 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:54.240 facilities and production. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.160 That's three. That's the big one right now. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.120 Then drone facilities, capabilities and production. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:00.800 That's four. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:07.480 And then the fifth one is the Iranian Iranian Navy, 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:11.840 and then the sixth one is the interesting one here, 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:12.280 which is. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.640 How do you support the protesters? 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.440 This is different than like I was involved in Libya's 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.600 at Yukon when had happened, and I was involved with Kosovo, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.560 and in both cases we had an armed insurgency on 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.440 the ground. The KLA and Cosbo who were you know, 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.000 I know all their friends of mine. Now those are 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.720 some tough guys ready to fight, and an former army 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.000 kind of armed insurrectionists in Libya in twenty eleven. We 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.080 do not have that condition in Iran right now. So 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.360 I don't know that the sixth line of effort gets 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:47.720 exploited unless they get armed either by Israeli or US 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:50.520 title fifth year Intelligence Community Forces. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.000 Admiral I saw earlier today reports that Israel's bombing along 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.600 the Kurdish border between the Iraqi Kurdish Dan and Iranian 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.000 Kurdis Dan, the idea of being that perhaps Kurdish forces 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:06.400 might cross over. What would that mean to Turkey? Turkey 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.960 is one of our three disappointing allies. Spain's the worst. 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.720 Uk is a close second, but Turkey's playing it both ways. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:16.280 What would that mean if the Kurds crossed over. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.560 So I don't think you did good justice to Hungary 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.320 on that one, but I'll say Turkey is the worst 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:24.520 of all those a lot. 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:30.480 And yeah, and so look the Turks are you know, 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:30.960 they're going. 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.040 To become unglued if if we create a Kurdish problem 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.040 for them in this I mean now, my answer to 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:37.480 them is, hey, you could have been a lot more 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:40.640 helpful at every step of the way in this crisis. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.560 You've been unhelpful. You've been damaging to Israel. You have 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:46.920 not been a good ally to the United States any way, 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:51.000 shape or form. And so my empathy factor for them 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:53.640 is pretty low. I did I don't know what the 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.360 Israeli you know, long term plan there is, because I 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:00.400 don't that's creating chaos and you know, chao us has 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.720 a value in the moment, but later on that chaos 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.160 could have a negative value for us. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.520 I'm I'm hesitant to say that. I know that's going 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:09.840 to be a useful action by the Israelis. 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.200 All right, now, admiraald this is this goes back to 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.960 your time at the Cyber Solarium, when you're the executive director, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.120 a close to tolitarian society Iran with the secret police 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:24.040 thoroughly penetrated. I gather the Israelis took control of their 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.640 closed caption TV and followed around Hawmoni's bodyguard. There's a 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.840 lot of stuff that they knew, and a lot of 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.200 stuff that we knew. If they're close to tolitarian society, 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:37.240 how vulnerable are we to this kind of surveillance and measures. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.319 You know, I have a feeling a hue that you're 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.240 not watching enough Apple TV, because if you're watching Tehran, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:46.960 you would know Israelis. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:51.840 The Israelis have half of the I audience absolutely. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.680 I mean, by the way, so much that is in 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:56.760 that streaming show just shows up here. I wonder sometimes 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:01.079 about Massad, but the you know, look had them penetrated, 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.840 and you know, give us some credit to you know, 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.680 General Kine's emphasis on the non kinetic aspects meant, I mean, 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:12.360 we kind of did the blunt force object of you 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.480 cannot communicate, you cannot see your space assets. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.280 They did the scalpel work. The Israelis. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.040 We know exactly where you are, we know who's coming 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.400 to this meeting, and we know that it is time 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.640 to strike. Three and a half hours from now, so 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.440 they're the scalpel with a sledgehammer, and between us that 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.280 was a pretty non kinetic butt kicking. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:36.400 Yes, now, Admill, I have a column for Fox News 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:40.920 tomorrow that restates, again objectively, the facts of nineteen ninety 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.280 one when then President George H. W. Bush, then Secretary 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.360 of Defense Cheney, and then Chairman of the Joint Chief 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:51.040 Powell called a halt to the First Golf War after 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.840 one hundred hours, and the debate about that goes on. 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:57.079 I don't want to reopen that debate. I am afraid, however, 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.079 that there's a temptation for political actors to things too soon. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.599 Is that at work here one? 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.520 You know, you hit it, Hugh. That is my biggest concern. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.960 We stopped the twelve day war twelve days too soon, 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:13.800 that after we did four to h we should have 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:17.640 joined in, at least at a minimum, provided refueling aircraft, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:22.120 continued refueling aircraft and strategic bombers to support continued Israeli. 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:22.920 Strikes on that. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.079 Remember that when I thought to bilistic missile production, drone production. 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.360 The reason they're shooting back at you with good numbers 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.040 at us is we have not stopped that. We haven't 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:36.120 eliminated the current stuff and rebilized everything that could build 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:36.840 future stuff. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.640 We need to make it clear that there will be. 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.400 No missile or drone activity from a future Iranian state. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.360 And the way you do that is a four to 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.240 six week campaign, three weeks solid, and near the end 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.120 of it you're doing battle damage assessment, and then restriking, restriking, 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.440 restriking at a lower level for about a week to 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:55.000 two weeks. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:56.440 Then you declare victory. 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.280 The propensity for presidents who declared victory. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:02.760 Early will will hurt us here. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.000 We need to carry through on this, even if it's 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:07.920 clear to us after some point that there's not going 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.120 to be a popular revolt against the leadership. We have 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.360 to continue to strike campaign until our military says we've 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.880 achieved these five the lines of the other five lines 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:19.280 of effort. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.720 I set out what do you think China is saying 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.160 as they We're sixty hours into this, so there's not 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.320 a lot to conclude, but the People's Republic of China 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.520 and the CCP are watching. What are they concluding? 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:33.839 Well, first, it turns out they didn't have that much 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.920 control over Iran, because I think they've been settling to 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:40.120 Iran NonStop, you know, Morse code, carrier, pigeon, whatever they 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:43.120 can get to them, do not close the straits or Hormuse. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.640 And the straits of Hormus are effectively being closed by 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.120 the Iranians right now. And let me tell you this 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.000 is like when they do this, This is like the 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.840 old scorpion ride in the back of the frog. You know, 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:56.559 when the Iranians, you know, kill the frog and closed 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.599 the straights of Hermus. They drowned, right because there it 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.800 kind of is as dependent on it as any other 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:06.440 maybe the Katari economy is equally dependent. So they're hurting themselves, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:10.640 but they're killing China, right. Venezuela was a little bit 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:13.360 of a ding on China. This is a big ding 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.200 on China supply. That's where this Iranian oil was going 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.400 and at a very discounted freight cost, you know, and 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.119 they're going to lose that. So China's gotta be frustrated. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:23.640 You know. 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.520 I think they kind of knew the Russian and Chinese 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.160 weapons in Iranian hands, we're not performing well against high 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.720 end US and Israeli equipment and they're getting another lesson 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:37.000 in that. I will say, also, this is a reminder 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.640 the Ukrainian. I just got back from three weeks in Ukraine. 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.320 There's a lot you can learn in Ukraine, and some 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.600 of it was applied here, but there's a lot that 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:47.320 isn't about Ukraine. Sometimes, just having a butt kicking air 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.320 power capability capacity anchored in our US Air Force supported 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.920 by our US Navy and Marine Corps is critical to 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.200 winning wars against high end adversaries. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.680 Admiral, we used the B one. I don't know how 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.160 many the ones we have. I got twenty B twos 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.520 on my being O card. What does the B one 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:07.200 do that the B two doesn't or is it the 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:07.880 same function? 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:10.800 I think it was doing the same time. I mean 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.240 I think the B ones like, hey, suppression of enemy 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:14.920 or defense complete I'm coming in. 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.840 It carries a lot of weapons, you know, probably around 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.320 the B two capacity, not like a B fifty two, 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.760 but it does a lot. And look we got we 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:28.360 have anywhere operational I'm guessing I don't know, so it's 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.320 not a clasm my number, but around nineteen or twenty 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:33.000 probably there good to go. But the dude, the deal 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.040 is the B two has you have to keep some 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.200 of them for your nuclear readiness to terrence thing so like, 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:40.800 let the b twos, you know, be doing their nuclear 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.080 stuff and then some B twos doing the conventional b 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:47.720 ones picking it up. I'm comfortable with this, and you know, 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.240 I'm confident they're putting a whole bunch of j DAM 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.200 on target b ones. Are they carry a lot of 0:15:53.960 --> 0:15:55.920 precision guided munitions and. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:57.440 So you know, I'm excited to have them in there 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:57.800 as well. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.360 By the way, that counts for a lot of fighter 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.760 a lot of fighter assorties in one bomber mission. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.360 Now now, Admiral, I'm asking her a continent earlier about 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.400 a supplemental or a reconciliation bill to beef up the 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.880 munition stock biles, and we'll talk during the break about 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.240 Golden Dum. Do you think that is going to be 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.800 necessary because we're using a lot of ordinance. 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.840 Absolutely, But I'll back up to that whole Red Sea 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.360 year and a half. We shot a year's worth of 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.440 procurement in the Red Sea alone last year and the 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.880 year before each of those years, and now we're doing 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.840 it again on the offensive side. So you know, with 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.240 the strike weapons, so we should have a munition you 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.400 know that, Look, the reconciliations helping with munitions, but I 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:45.320 think this is a very specific buy back the five 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.960 hundred million to billion dollars worth the munitions you spend 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.200 over the each week, probably in this in this contest, 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:56.160 absolutely you should do that. That's pretty typical that you 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.440 have a supplemental for a wartime expenditure like this. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.560 I'll be right back with Adam Montgomery during the break 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.000 to ask him about Golden Dome and how quickly we 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.240 have to move on that given what we've seen right here. 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.960 But don't go anywhere except stay tuned to the Sanuel 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.119 News channel. If you've missed any or all of the 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.440 conversations today, they're all over at my YouTube channel at 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.000 Hugh Hewett YouTube. I'll be right back with the Admiral 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.520 during the break. After the break, Bethany Mandel joins me. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.080 Then John bod Ortz. Stay tuned. I'll be right back. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.680 I'm back with Admiral Mark Montgomery. Admiral Ronald Reagan and 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:30.040 Edward Teller are smiling today because of what Israel is doing. 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:33.719 They've suffered civilian casualties, but they they're shooting everything down. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.200 They got lasers work and all sorts of stuff. What's 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:38.679 that tell us about Golden Dome? And how much of 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:40.639 a priority it ought to be, and I assume we 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:41.600 can get it deployed. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.919 So first, this validates President Trump's commitment to Golden Dome 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.760 during his campaign and immediately upon his election with the 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:52.560 executive order. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.720 It also validates his selection of Mike Gootline. 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:59.400 General Gootline is the leader because goot Line has laid 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.720 out a very you know, a very explicit plan you 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.520 can see it to get up into space, like President 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.600 Reagan knew we needed to be. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.439 The cost of launch has been dropped. 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.639 The reason I say this, if you're up in space, 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.680 you can the same assets can do for deployed you know, 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.080 defend your forces of the Middle East, in the Pacific, 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:20.320 in Europe and the Homeland. We want to fight our adversary, 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.800 not in the homeland, so we want to be able 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:23.440 to defend our. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:27.000 Ford deployed forces. So I you know, his theory of 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.360 a space based. 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:33.960 System, both satellites and effectors to shoot down things base 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.560 of space supported by a strong what's called an underlayer 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:42.480 of terrestrial radars and sometimes shooters. Very point defense is important, 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.000 and maybe getting to rigibles in there, you know, in 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:48.560 the up to really good good vision that is where 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.960 my goot line is headed, and it's validated by this. Look, 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.680 it's terrible that our troops got killed. I think we're 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:56.640 going to find out by you know, a short range 0:18:56.640 --> 0:19:01.800 ballistic missile that hit a op center. But you know 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.400 the truth is we don't have There's not enough patriot 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.160 and bad that you can buy to point defend everything everywhere, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:08.840 all at once. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.440 And with that in mind, the. 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:15.880 Space base really gives you that more comprehensive, holistic approach. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:17.320 It's going to take time. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:19.840 I'm afraid the President will not you know, it will 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:21.800 be after January twenty twenty nine before it's a. 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.040 Truly effective system. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.200 But this is the President giving his successors the systems 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.720 they need to fight and win against adversaries like China, 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.879 Russia and North Korea and if Iran survives Iran in 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:38.760 the future. So I'm not excited, but I'm you know, 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:43.080 I believe this validates improves the theory that a lot 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.280 of us have been pushing and the general goot line 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:46.000 is championing. 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:47.400 As head of Golden Dome. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.680 We're radmal Mark Montgomery. Thank you for your time today. 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.639 I know you're in high demand and I appreciate all 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:54.320 the guys and gals from FDD spending the time with me. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.800 Talk to you again soon. Thank you Admiral again. I'm 0:19:56.880 --> 0:20:01.320 joined from Israel by a Meet Segal with twelve News 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.040 in Israel. It's also with Dan Senor on the Calling 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.200 Back podcast, the Insider podcast Busiest Man as I can 0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:11.440 tell in Israeli media. I mean, thank you for making 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.119 the time. First, how is your family? You've got a 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:16.320 new born. If I recall, you're going back and forth 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:20.480 to the shelters a what an additional complexity for parents 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:24.240 or trying to get some sleep exactly? 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.840 You know they someone said something funny that I mean 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:30.320 having sirens in the middle of the nineties, as if 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.960 every every is Ready has a too, you know, has 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.439 a new burn to take care of. You know, you 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.320 wake up three times a night and you will barely 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:43.200 get to sleep. But I think Moreal is high high 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.840 spirits because people are aware of what is going on, 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:47.840 what's at stake. 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.200 And here's the thing, in my opinion, you. 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:55.280 Since nineteen eighty two till twenty twenty six, today, each 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.399 and every is Ready or was killed or injured or 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.040 kidnapped was hit by either an Iranian weapon or an 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:07.399 Iranian funded weapon. So this was the enemy. So now 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.040 when they are going down and they are going to 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.680 collapse in Israel and the United States are standing. 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:17.000 Together to facilitate the process. 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.439 I think it's ready. Are willing to pay a high price. 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:23.320 Bride called it stiff upper lip. I think in World War. 0:21:23.160 --> 0:21:26.600 Two, well, they are have already paid a large, large 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:29.400 price for civilian casualties and more on the way. I'm 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.600 certain because it's going to be a long war. Let 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:34.199 me ask you, mate about the politics in Israel. In 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.680 the United States, the divide between red and blue is 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.800 already out in full force, and Democrats are condemning this. 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:45.160 I have been cheered by the opposition, both Yaya Lapide 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:50.160 and Natally Bennett supporting the Prime Minister. Is that going 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.760 to hold through the duration of the war? 0:21:55.000 --> 0:22:00.359 I think so, Because this is an existential threat, everyone 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:01.160 is aware of it. 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.040 I think the situation in Gaza was. 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.080 A bit different, first of all because it was very long, 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:10.120 and second because of the hostage question. There were many 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.480 approaches to how to take care of whether to first 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.520 take the hostages and then eliminate Camaso the other way around. 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:17.400 This is not the case. 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.840 Was Iran so I think the main perception in Israel 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:25.840 is you know, green and buried and the opposition and coalition. 0:22:28.280 --> 0:22:31.800 I mean, do not have any disputes about this. Right now, 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:33.320 I want to talk about the Prime minister in at 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:35.280 Yahoo for a moment. I mean, I read about him 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.000 in your book The Call three Am. It's a fabulous 0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:41.000 book for people want to learn about Israeli politics. He's 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.280 been off and on prime Minister of Israel since nineteen 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:46.840 ninety six, for a total of almost sixteen years. This 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.320 is the fruition what is unfolding now. It's not done yet, 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.560 but this is the fruition of his life goal. Is 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:57.040 it changing the fundamentals of politics in Israel or is 0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:00.879 it just hardening the lines for whenever the ceasefire or 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.400 the piece or the regime collapses in Iran. 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:08.920 It absolutely helps him, you know, following the utter disaster 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:13.080 of October sevens which happened on Natania's watch, which with 0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:18.120 his accountability, I thought that his only way whether this 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:24.560 monster storm, is actually by defeating Iran, because Iran is 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.160 the sugar ready of each and every proxy that fought Israel, 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:33.199 especially Ramas. And here we see that what began on 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:38.320 October Seven's was actually Israel's pell Holbo. And now we 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:41.879 are in the gates of Berlin and Tokyo, and I 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:46.280 think this opportunity cannot be missed. I think that Nataniel 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.879 and Trump, I would put it different to Natania was 0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:51.840 the only one, the only leader who could have talked 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.040 Trump into attacking Iran, you know, the leader of the 0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:59.880 Maga movement. And because he explained to Trump, first how 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:04.000 dangerous cities to the United States States itself and second 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:09.600 what it teached the world in the US enemies. If 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.919 I run is to be the unim regim is to 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.639 be destroyed by the United States of America. 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:18.760 Now Prime Minister Modi of India was their last week. 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.200 And the new world order that is emerging is of 0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:26.200 the high tech superpowers like Israel, India and the United States. 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.720 And maybe they'll drag along the old europe powers, but 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.600 they're not really playing their own game. I also think 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.439 the golf allies are going to come along and I 0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:39.119 can't even believe it. Lebanon is you know, declared open 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:40.320 season on Hesbola. 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:45.960 Hooray right, yes, Chris Balla, you know there was a 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:50.240 once in nineteen eighty three the Label party in the 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:53.679 United Kingdom published It's a manifesto, It's a gender for 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.679 the election, and the British Plus defined it as the 0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:00.000 longest suicide member, the longest suicide letter. 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:01.040 In the history of the world. 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:04.160 So I would say that his blast decision to fire 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.960 three rockets in the middle of the night on Israel 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.520 was the loudest suicide letter in the history of the 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:16.240 Middle East. Listen, I know they were between a rock 0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:20.440 and a hard place. The hardest place, you know, Iranians. 0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:26.199 The founders demand them to actually seize the opportunity and 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:29.000 defend them. That was the purpose of establishing christ Bella 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.960 and on the other hand, the formidable power of the idea. 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:36.879 They took the worst decision. They attacked, but only marginally 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:41.000 three rockets, and now Israel would come with its decisive 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:43.120 power to eliminate his bela once and fall. 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:45.560 And the Lebanese government understands this. 0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:50.399 I mean they see yet another flood of refugees, and 0:25:50.560 --> 0:25:54.080 their decision today was historic in the sense that for 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:58.840 the first time his belife defined as illegal militarily in Levange. 0:25:59.080 --> 0:25:59.960 Good news for the media. 0:26:00.359 --> 0:26:03.280 Now, I mean I talked to four Israelis about Seth 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:07.240 you and nadav Aviv and doctor or in doctor ORNs. 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.040 My generation U three are a generation younger. But you 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.879 seem to talk to everyone and everyone's mad at you occasionally, 0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.720 so that means you're actually a fine reporter. What do 0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:19.840 your sources tell you about fracture within Iran? Because there 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.560 are some reports I don't know whether the credit them 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.399 or not of internal fracturing of the regime. Have you 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.040 heard that from any of the people you report on. 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:33.040 Yes, I think we should stick to cautious optimism when 0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:36.679 it comes to this. There are two options basically for 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.200 the future of Iran. One is the fantasy of Israel 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.159 and the United States just you know, pressing control z 0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:48.040 undoing the Islamic evolution, thus getting you know, a liberal, 0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:52.080 secular proise ready pro western Iran. But the other more 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:56.480 probable option is that we're going to have Venezuela. The 0:26:56.560 --> 0:27:02.080 United States took the president and now, I mean the 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:05.280 vice president is way more cautious when it comes to 0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:09.360 the United States, way more friendly. Why because I guess 0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:12.560 she's afraid the United States is going to after her too. 0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:13.840 That's the thing in. 0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:14.480 Iran, I think. 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:20.919 And you should notice you something very interesting Israel targeted 0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:26.080 killed forty eight senior figures in Iran, form Ali Khaminida, Supremelyadium, 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:30.600 to generals and everything in between. But it skipped the 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:36.159 Iranian president Pashkazian. Now, it's not due to lack of information. 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:39.840 I suspect, and it's only my suspicion that this guy 0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.520 is going to be the go to guy when it 0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.040 comes to the Iranian regime. 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.480 That's a fascinating speculation. I watched that. What about their 0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.040 foreign minister who continued to make a full out of 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:54.240 himself whenever he goes on American television. 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.919 The Middle East is full with, you know, ridiculous foreign ministers. 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:05.320 The didn't grasp the changing situation. 0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:06.600 In their in their homelands. 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.720 You do you remember italic As for Miraq, Mahmuda Sakha 0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:12.359 for Mirak. 0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:14.040 I think Alila. 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.200 Arakchi is going to be remembered exactly like them. 0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.160 All right, So you have talked, I've heard you talk 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.480 about the UAE and Saudi ua is a little Sparta 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:25.159 and they have been with us every step of the 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.000 way through the long Wars, and their very very close 0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:31.280 ally just just behind Israel. They don't have the capabilities 0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:34.880 Israel does, but they are reliable. Do you think that breach, 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.959 which was very alarming, has been healed by the common 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:39.880 enemy that Iran has proven to be. 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:45.920 First of all, yes, I think the UAE, the UI's 0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:49.680 number one reason to go to the Abrama Cords was 0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:55.000 first the huge threat possessed by Iran, and second understanding 0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.080 that there should be an alliance of the moderates in 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.040 the Middle East. It's not Jews versus Arabs, or Jews 0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:08.560 versus Muslims, but moderates versus fundamentalists. And now Saudi Arabia 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:08.960 gets this. 0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:09.880 Listen. 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:13.960 I Ran attacked, the directly attacked Saudi Arabia this day 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:19.600 attacked Bahrain, whouwaits even Qatar, you know, Qatar, the big 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:23.400 the biggest terror funder, the second biggest tele funder in 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:25.800 the Middle list was targeted by the first. 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:29.000 Founder in the in the Middle East. 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.600 This is huge, and I think they are going to 0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:34.960 understand that there is only one power in the Middle 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:41.080 East which does not threaten peaceful citizens, and this is Israel. 0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.640 Thirty seconds, I mean, is anyone running around right now 0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:47.680 because what they're doing does not fit any coherent pattern 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:50.600 I've ever seen in my studies of war and conflict 0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.640 and being around don't make any sense. Is anyone running it? 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.800 No, it is run by by the Gang of Three. 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:04.160 But and here's the thing, it runs a strategic plan 0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:06.960 for the entire for the last forty seven years was 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:13.120 we are going to enjoy the bloods of other proxies. 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.320 Now their proxies are gone thanks to the IDF, and 0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:18.840 now for the first time they have to fight themselves 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.280 against the West, and the outcome is devastating. 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:24.600 From them going very well. I meet Segal, Thank you 0:30:24.640 --> 0:30:28.200 for joining me. Follow him on. I meet Schagal. Get 0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.800 his book that you can get an Amazon. Listen to 0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.840 him and call me back with Dan speenor and thank 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:35.360 you to meet for at the time. Good luck with 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.800 the babies in the middle of a war. I'll be 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:40.160 right back in America's patre born in Gloria and Ian 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.800 and Grace in America. I'm you Hereitt back from vacation. 0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:45.200 My thanks to Kurt Schlicker for sitting in for me 0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:49.760 last week. And what was the penultimate week before the war. 0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.240 And I was without wireless all day Saturday as I 0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:55.360 flew Delta just couldn't get it working. So I was 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:58.520 gone crazy wondering what my next guest, Eli Lake, who 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.080 I asked to be the first guest for this program, 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:04.120 first guest after the war was sinking and saying, and 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.040 he was working with commentary and pumping stuff out. Eli, 0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:11.160 great work this weekend. First question, big picture, your reaction 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.200 after seventy two hours of war with Iran. 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.040 I look at this as the culmination of a forty 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:23.120 seven year war that was started with the embassy hostage 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:27.520 crisis that the Iranian regime has started, and it looks 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.280 like this is going to be the final chapter of 0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:33.040 that near fifty year war. And I think that's the 0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:34.520 right way to look at it now. 0:31:34.600 --> 0:31:36.640 I thought the Free Press, for whom you worked, did 0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:39.480 an amazing job on Saturday before I lost wireless. You 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.960 brought in serious people to talk about the subject. There's 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.680 been good guests over at Fox as well, but most 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.600 of the news is slow, Eli. Where are you getting 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.720 your news from about developments in the war. 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.160 I like social media, there are some accounts. I think 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:59.600 Iran International has been very good source for understanding what's 0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:04.400 happening with the democratic opposition. I always in situations like this, 0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:06.960 we'll try to remember the basic rule of the fog 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.160 of war. The first reports are often wrong, so there 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:13.040 was a there were there was still dispute over who 0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:17.040 hit a girls' school that you know, the casualty figures 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.760 keep rising, and a lot of news outlets kind of 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.600 went with that. But I'm still waiting to sort of see, okay, 0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:26.480 what what happened there was that potentially a misfire was 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.800 on an IRGC base. Certainly don't think it was targeted. 0:32:29.840 --> 0:32:35.880 That's regime propaganda, but uh, you know so, so I'm there. 0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:39.560 I do think that the straight stuff you're getting from 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:43.640 the wires and the usual suspects has been pretty good. 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.200 And to be honest, I learned a ton just at 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:52.280 the press conference today with Raisin Kine and Pete Hexsath. Yeah, 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.520 I mean that that answered a lot of questions. I 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:55.600 thought was pretty good. 0:32:55.680 --> 0:33:00.760 So now I listened to HEAVV right morning on my 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.960 trungle and he too. He went very big on the 0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.440 other chessboard, the Grand Strategy chessboard. I thought he was persuasive. 0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.160 What do you think China is seeing as it's unfolds. 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.080 Well, we've talked about this before. The first thing, I 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:18.080 think that the Chinese military planners are looking at Is. 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.440 The United States and Israel together have done it again. 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.239 They have managed to, in this case kill instead of 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:30.160 capture the leader of a regime without boots on the ground. 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:31.560 That's brand new. 0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:36.800 That's a new technology that, in my view, is a 0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:40.120 new kind of capability. And I think we're in this 0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:45.400 kind of moment similar to the years after World War 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.880 Two where America and its ally Israel has a kind 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.160 of monopoly on this capability. 0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:52.960 But that's extraordinary. 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:55.800 I'm not saying that this would be done in China, 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.920 but I just think it changes the game. It changes 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.840 the chessboard in a lot of ways in terms of 0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:03.800 a kind of tactical innovation. The other thing I think 0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:07.640 is that I have not seen Russia or China the 0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.520 kind of great power allies of Iran offering to send troops, 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:15.920 offering to do much of anything. Iran is alone and isolated. 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:20.359 That to me was also super significant. But if we 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:25.399 were worried that China would take an opportunity to make 0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:29.759 a grab for Taipei and Taiwan, I think we've set 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:32.440 that back at this point in terms of the demonstration 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:34.439 of American military might. 0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.840 Yeah, the one accent we had not see is the 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.640 underwater asset. I know most of the Iranian navy has 0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.600 been sunk. I don't know how it's been sunk, but 0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:45.440 I would guess a lot of our Virginia attack submarines 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.239 are near the Straits Taiwan Straits right now, because we 0:34:49.320 --> 0:34:51.759 are pretty committed in the Middle East to this. Let 0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:53.960 me go to the downside. I don't know that the 0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:56.440 United Kingdom should be in the five eyes anymore, and 0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:58.680 I sure as hell don't think Spain out to be 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:03.160 anywhere near. What do you make of their First of all, 0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.160 UK just wouldn't work with us for seventy two hours. 0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.319 How do we trust them? And then Spain won't work 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.320 with us now after everybody's been attacked by the Butchers. 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:18.840 Well, it's drastic. The five I question is very interesting 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.760 with the UK. But the Shenanigans they called with Diego 0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:28.360 Garcia for as this was ramping up, is a real blow. 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:30.600 And I think it is a huge problem. And I 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.680 know it was something that Trump had personally talked about, 0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.600 so it got his attention. Listen, this is the difference 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.520 between the US Israel. I mean, think about what the 0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:45.920 US Israel military partnership is achieving right now. Taking care 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.680 of an enemy to not just Israel. It's like not 0:35:49.760 --> 0:35:52.120 a war for Israel. It's like they're taking care of 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:56.560 the West. And where is where is where are our 0:35:56.600 --> 0:36:00.560 traditional European allies in that nowhere? They are roving their 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:05.320 irrelevance in this moment. You know, it makes you rethink 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.360 a number of things, and it you know, it gets 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.920 back to I was very initially skeptical of Trump's hostility 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.440 to NATO. I'm not saying I've come around to the 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.960 kind of full Trumpian position on it, but I just 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.680 don't know that we can count on a lot of 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.040 the europe Western European militaries in particular, to be the 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.560 kind of allies that we assume they are in the 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:30.240 NATO alliance. You know, when they did there at a moment 0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:31.799 like this, and not just that they didn't go along 0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.400 with the United States, Do they have the what capabilities. 0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:35.279 Would they have? 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.799 I mean that's what I'm the Israeli tech and what 0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.439 the Americans have been able to do. I keep coming 0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.719 back to it is so extraordinary. And where is the 0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:44.920 UK on stuff like this? 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.520 Nowhere? Yeah, I'm kind of up for the two eyes approach. 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.919 What we don't know Massada, and I'm kind of going 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:54.120 to that. I want to ask you about your worry. 0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:58.239 My column for Fox tomorrow is Mster President, don't do 0:36:58.400 --> 0:37:02.120 what hw and Dick Cheney and Colin Powell did in 0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.920 nineteen ninety one. Although I don't know the information they 0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.799 acted on that they had a goal. They executed the 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.759 Pole doctrine. They expelled Saddam, but the Marshabs were slaughtered. 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.080 We went on for another eleven years with the no 0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:18.040 fly zones. We lost airman, we lost kobar towers. It 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:21.200 was not the right thing to blink and quit. And 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.319 because you know, look bad on the road, that was 0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:27.160 the road of destruction and death. Do you think there's 0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:28.920 a danger of stopping too soon? 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.440 Yes, but I also think that there this is a 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.520 big gamble and we should we should keep. 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:37.279 That in mind. 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.320 I think it's smart that we're not going to commit 0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.600 boots on the ground because Americans don't want it. 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.280 And then our service. 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:50.880 Our marines, our our infantry men become sitting ducks because they, 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.920 as a man, the checkpoints and they train and we 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:55.720 and that's that's how. 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:56.440 The wars became. 0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.960 Quagmires wasn't in the initial phase of toppling the regimes. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.160 It was the nation building phase. So I think Trump 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.680 is smart to say that's not in the cards and 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.480 you shouldn't have any expectations of that. But we should 0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:13.440 also acknowledge that we have less of an ability to 0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:17.360 shape whatever comes next in the transition. My hope is 0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:21.759 that MASAD and CIA have a network in place that 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:27.440 can emerge after these layers of the regime are eliminated, 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.239 and that would be the best case scenario, and I'm 0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:33.319 not ruling it out, but it's a big unknown at 0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.719 this point. And my nightmare scenario is that you have 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:40.600 even if it's a thousand true believers with lots of guns, 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.680 you know, they head to the hills, they form an insurgency, 0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.080 and there's a race for the most sensitive material, whether 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:52.759 it's nuclear, whether it's you know, even if it's handheld 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.399 anti aircraft guns, which we know the Iranians have, If 0:38:56.440 --> 0:38:58.680 they get in the hands of terrorist groups and they 0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:02.480 go to international airports, that's an international crisis. 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:04.200 So what I'm saying is. 0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.239 I actually think the MASAD and the CIA and the 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.640 US military are aware of that, and I and you 0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:12.680 have to marvel at their brilliance and competence. So at 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.960 this point, I think they know that that's a challenge, 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.839 but there are no guarantees. We've ruled the iron dice 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:19.560 of war and we have to accept that that's a 0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:20.120 major risk. 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:22.839 Now there's no danger of loose nukes. There's a lot 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:26.160 of danger of loose nuclear material that makes dirty bombs, 0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:31.320 and that is that's very last question, just loose weaponry. Yeah, 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:35.239 Israel has demonstrated extraordinary technology that we need, and I 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.480 think the Golden Dome that Trump's put on the table 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.920 becomes the priority for the rest of his term that 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.280 we need what Israel has. Do you think the Congress 0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.600 will step up and spend what needs to be spent 0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.040 and go Manhattan Project on this the way that Reagan 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:50.879 did and then we kind of put it away because 0:39:50.880 --> 0:39:53.040 of the piece did and Ino, But we need it. 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:57.400 It's absolutely essentially so glad you brought this up. 0:39:57.680 --> 0:40:00.560 This is an opportunity to reset the USS where we're relationship. 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.920 I think that it's not just me, Benjamin Netanyahu's even 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.560 said this, it's time to end the model of that. 0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.600 You know, we're subsidizing Israel's military more than any other 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:10.279 country in the world. 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:11.520 Israel's a prosperous nation. 0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:15.480 Instead, let's have Israel graduate to full partner and instead 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:19.239 of having a Manhattan project, let's have Israel, you know, 0:40:19.360 --> 0:40:23.200 bring its technology to us in a collaborative process, so 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:27.280 that we have Iron Beam, a laser based missile defense 0:40:27.320 --> 0:40:30.600 system that eliminates the huge. 0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:31.880 Problem right now in. 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.400 Our missile defense contract, which is that it's far more 0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.160 expensive to build the interceptors than for the bad guys 0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.319 to build the missiles. So if we can use that 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.400 kind of laser technology doesn't work in all conditions, but 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.840 if we can get that and use that and have 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.279 Israel helping with Golden Dome, that is a new kind 0:40:48.320 --> 0:40:49.080 of relationship. 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.600 And that's what I'd like to say. I agree this 0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:53.840 is they are the equal of any of our ally, 0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:57.920 and in fact, they've proven themselves to be more important 0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.680 to us than any other ally in the last seventy 0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:04.160 two hours in a grand strategy sense, which has not 0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:07.600 always been the case before. Eli Lake always hit the 0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:11.120 free Press, follow him at the CFP and on x 0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:15.040 at Eli Lake, come right back, America lots ahead today 0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:24.240 on my first day back, Danny Pluckkip from AIX Welcome 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.719 back in America, I'm you, Hewittt back after a week 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.279 thanks to Kirk Schlichter for sitting in for me last week. 0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:32.200 I'm joined by Danny Pludka, senior scholar at the American 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.200 Enterprise Institute, co host of the What the Hell Is 0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.879 going On? Podcast? Danny, I want to ask you about 0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.840 the big big picture of eve Reddy Gore did a 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:45.880 what Ask Have You Anything? Podcast all about what China 0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.960 is watching and seeing and concluding. I want to put 0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.200 that question to you, because you are a grand strategist. 0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.600 What is China seeing, watching, concluding from the first seventy 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:55.719 two hours of this war. 0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:01.440 Look, it's really important that the China is understand something 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:05.560 about American will because I think that a lot of 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:12.319 our adversaries in recent years, recent administrations, have come to 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:16.800 believe that America can be tested and will not respond, 0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:21.080 that America can be rejected and not respond. And this 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:24.360 is what our history with China is. We've watched the Chinese. 0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:28.520 We've talked repeatedly about a quote unquote pivot to Asia, 0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:32.279 and what we've done is not only not pivot, but 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.360 not respond to a Chinese military build up in the 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.960 South China Sea, to Chinese aggression against our allies in 0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:43.880 Southeast to Asia, and now watching us, watching our capabilities 0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:48.200 in the Mediterranean, they have got to be asking themselves 0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:50.520 is this a risk worth taking? 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.600 I agree? I also wonder are they going to rush 0:42:55.160 --> 0:43:01.960 to try and build a counter like a Golden Dome themselves? 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.480 And how much of a priority does Golden Dome become 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:08.239 for the American homeland now? 0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:14.200 So I think that. Look, I think all missile defenses, 0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:19.080 all drone defenses, are absolutely critical. But we knew this 0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:22.480 before this conflict with Iran. We knew this by watching 0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:26.840 what the Russians have been doing with Iranian weaponry to 0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.320 our friends, the Ukrainians. And we know this by watching 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.320 what the Ukrainians have been able to do to the 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:37.440 Russians by stepping up their capabilities their manufacture of drones. 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:41.520 We all need to be working together to counter the 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.560 capabilities of adversaries like the Russians. Well, I would have 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:48.480 said the Iranians, but maybe not, but certainly the Chinese, 0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:52.440 and to begin to protect our allies, the Israelis, the Taiwanese, 0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.959 the Ukrainians are NATO friends. Well, if I can still 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:57.000 call them NATO friends. 0:43:57.160 --> 0:43:59.759 Oh, let's pause there, because I brought up the five. 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.160 I'm not sure I trust the United Kingdom anymore. And 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:07.520 Spain has basically given more ammunition to the isolationists in 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.719 America than every isolation as in America could come up 0:44:10.719 --> 0:44:13.000 with in the last forty eight hours. 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:17.719 You know, I have friends who use this word and 0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:22.120 I find it very effective. I'm very disappointed in our 0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:26.560 NATO allies and the same people who have been and 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.080 again you you warned me about the FCC, I need 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.040 to be careful of my language. But the same people 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:36.400 who have been whining over the last year and a 0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:41.360 half about America's alliance with NATO, about our lack of 0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:44.759 commitment to the Transatlantic Alliance, about us not doing enough 0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:49.560 for our Ukinan friends are completely and totally indifferent when 0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:52.600 a we come to them and say support us in 0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:56.399 supporting our allies and partners in the Middle East. They 0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:00.319 are two faced hypocrites. And that's just the languag that 0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:02.320 I'm using to be compliant with the FSNC. 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.160 Thank you for doing that, Danny Plikeka. Let me go 0:45:06.280 --> 0:45:09.800 back to one of the most debated decisions in national 0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.960 security strategy of the last fifty years, the decision by 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.040 President George H. W. Bush, Secretary of Defense, and then 0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:19.400 Cheney and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, then Colin Powell 0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:23.959 to stop the invasion of Kuwait after reaching the border 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:27.520 with the rock after on the arbitrary one hundred hours 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.719 headline moment. Do you think we are in danger of 0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:34.200 doing the same thing here? And I'm not saying I 0:45:34.200 --> 0:45:37.040 don't want to relitigate that decision. There are good reasons 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:39.840 to defend that decision and bad reason to defend that decision. 0:45:39.880 --> 0:45:42.640 But I don't want to stop prematurely here. 0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:47.360 Now. Listen, I agree with you wholeheartedly. And you know 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:51.279 there's always a tension between the military imperatives and the 0:45:51.280 --> 0:45:55.680 political imperatives. But here Mark and I had on and 0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:58.399 we don't yet it's not yet published, but we had 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:03.759 on very well known nuclear expert David Albright, physicist on 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.240 the podcast this morning, and we'll release it tomorrow morning. 0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:12.360 But he gave us such compelling reasons for us to 0:46:12.600 --> 0:46:16.440 stay the course in Iran. First of all, they have 0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:20.400 a nuclear weapons program. We know that we don't know 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:23.520 where all of their facile material is, where all of 0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:28.799 their enriched geranium is. If we stop prematurely, we risk 0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:33.680 the idea that bad guys that Iranian government retreads that 0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.560 al Qaeda. Don't forget al Qaida head of al Qaida 0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:40.080 is in Iran right now, that these guys will get 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:44.680 a hold of get a hold of nuclear material, nuclear technology. 0:46:45.120 --> 0:46:47.640 We don't want that to happen. And it's one of 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:51.200 the reasons why I believe the President will continue to 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:57.200 prioritize ensuring there is a stable government in Iran that 0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.239 follows this one. It's imperative. 0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:03.280 Danny sail Adel is the current head of al Qaeda. 0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:08.680 He replaced Zawahiri after Zawahiri was killed by Tim Biden, 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.480 and good that he's gone to his reward. But this 0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.640 guy's in Iran. Doesn't that make this an AUMF covered 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.040 operation from two thousand and one? 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:23.600 So I've wrote about this this weekend. You can certainly 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:28.520 press the AARMF for people who are not nerdy like me. 0:47:28.880 --> 0:47:31.840 The authorization for use of military force that came after 0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.560 nine to eleven, and that really has been used by 0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:39.680 successive presidents for counter terrorism operations in Syria and Iraq 0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:43.520 and Yemen and even further afield than that. Look, I 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:49.279 don't think that the president actually requires an authorization for 0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:52.919 use of military force, and I don't think that he's 0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:58.239 going to get one from this Congress. But in a 0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:03.319 pinch sure stretch that AOMF that's now, what twenty five 0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:07.200 years old? He almost twenty five years old. Even further 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:12.120 and say that the head of al Qaeda's presence and 0:48:12.239 --> 0:48:17.279 his being protected by this regime does give us a 0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:22.160 certain latitude in our operations. But the Constitution makes clear. Look, 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:24.360 and you know this better than I do, Hugh, the 0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:29.480 President has the ultimate authority to defend the national security 0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.759 of the American people and he doesn't need an AOMF 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.839 to do that. It's nice to have, it's not an imperative. 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.880 And Hugh youtt believe the War Powers Actor is unconstitutional. 0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:44.320 For the record, last question, thanks K. Ben Rhodes is 0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:48.200 up there. You tweeted about this. Are the Democrats that's stupid? 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:52.719 Do they really not understand that Ben represents and God 0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:57.320 bless him, he's just dumb the sunk costs of twenty 0:48:57.400 --> 0:49:00.000 years of idiocy. It's not the way they want to go. 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:02.560 They got to go back to being the party of JFK. 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.879 Well, bless his heart. Ben Rhodes, whose degree I think 0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:13.080 is in fiction, writing, and perhaps appropriately so, was an 0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:17.479 important advisor to the Obama administration and has become not 0:49:17.600 --> 0:49:21.480 just a rulent defender of the Biden and Obama legacies, 0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:24.560 but has really become a pretty nasty enemy of the 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:28.839 state of Israel in recent years. Look, he doesn't know 0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:32.160 what he's talking about. He's an embarrassment. And I have 0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:34.600 seen that there are a couple of Democrats who are 0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:38.080 not so blinded by their loathing of Donald Trump that 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:40.840 they are able to recognize that what the president is 0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.960 doing is important to our national security. And then there's 0:49:45.000 --> 0:49:45.680 the rest of them. 0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:48.879 Well, I hope Chris Coons and Angus King and Jack 0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:52.120 Reed and the Caucus of the Serious come out and 0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:55.360 say way to go, miss President. We're with you. Danny 0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:59.080 Plugger from AI follower on hplug listen to what the 0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:02.560 hell is going on? Mister Albright is indeed the person 0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:05.920 I would want to hear about the loose nuclear material. 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.560 It'll be on to Milds podcast by Jun Americ. Welcome 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.880 back to Meta. I'm new Hewett Richard Goldberg as a 0:50:11.920 --> 0:50:15.000 senior Fellow with the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy. 0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:18.399 He's been working on the Iran file for decades. Rich 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:20.319 thank you for spending some time with me. I know 0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:23.760 you must be in great demand. First, just your general 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.400 reaction to seventy two hours of the war with Iran. 0:50:28.600 --> 0:50:32.880 Well historic in every single way, obviously, Hugh, credit to 0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:36.280 you for just pounding away on this issue all these weeks, 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:39.760 not letting it fade out of the media's site. After 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:43.359 the historic uprising by the Iranian people and unfortunately the 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:47.439 historic maximum violence from the regime, but in the first 0:50:47.480 --> 0:50:51.800 twenty four hours, historic coordination between the United States and Israel, 0:50:52.360 --> 0:50:56.279 the ability to command the skies together with US made 0:50:56.320 --> 0:51:01.600 platforms the decapitation strike on the leadership of that regime 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:06.520 and are very precise and ongoing degrading with the intent 0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:09.759 of destruction of all of the external threats that this 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:14.280 regime faces that presents to the United States from its missiles, 0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:18.560 it's drone, its navy and also a surprise to me, 0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:21.919 not surprised if you've been following energy markets, but even 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.400 with attacks on energy infrastructure and some of our Gulf 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:29.160 state allies, the oil market is different today. American energy 0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:32.120 dominance has made a difference. We are seeing the same 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.839 tepid reaction that we saw in the first twenty four 0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.920 hours of the twelve day war. And so in the 0:51:37.920 --> 0:51:40.880 oil market we are seeing just a little bit of 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:41.520 a bump right now. 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:42.200 It can change. 0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:46.160 But the president's focus on drill, baby drill. We saw 0:51:46.200 --> 0:51:50.800 an attack on Katari LNG export facilities today, the president's 0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:54.200 decision to reverse his predecessor's ban on the export of 0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:58.720 LG looming very large today. And so American energy dominance 0:51:58.760 --> 0:52:04.920 providing flexibility here, American military dominance potentially changing the world's face. 0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:09.520 And what comes next if all continues to go as planned, 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:14.040 destroying their external threat capability and then opening the door 0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:18.080 to the command and control, the repression apparatus, and perhaps 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:20.920 millions of Iranians taking back their country. 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:24.800 So Rich Coldberg, I listened to the Writy Gore this morning, 0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:27.560 ask you of anything, and he did a very useful thing. 0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:30.520 He took his focus off the chessboard, that is the 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:35.000 Middle East regional problems and conflicts, and focused on grand 0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:38.480 strategy chessboard. I want to do that throughout the program 0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:40.400 today and I have been doing it throughout the program. 0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.719 What do you think China is thinking as they see 0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:44.600 this unfolding? 0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:50.359 Well, I said this when we spoke a few weeks ago, 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.799 when we didn't know exactly what would happen, we were 0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:55.320 both pretty confident that President Trump would do executive what 0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:58.719 he's doing now that the Strait of Hormuz is a 0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:02.279 pressure point on China far more than the United States 0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:05.719 today because of how we've turned around to be American 0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:09.960 energy dominant. Half of the imports of oil that China 0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:12.960 relies upon comes through the Strait of Horror Moves. They 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:16.360 are also heavily dependent on those LNG exports out of Cutter. 0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:20.000 So when you see attacks on Saudi, when you see 0:53:20.040 --> 0:53:23.399 attacks on Cutter coming from Iran, it's the Chinese who 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:27.040 are most alarmed right now, and they're making phone calls. 0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:30.160 They're asking that their tankers continue to move through the 0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.800 Strait of horm Moves. They're putting pressure on the regime 0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:34.960 while the regime is under attack and potentially on the 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.040 verge of collapse, to keep the straight open. And so 0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:40.920 I think the Chinese right now are looking at the 0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:44.399 game board and saying, wow, we're losing both ways. 0:53:44.480 --> 0:53:44.959 Right now. 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:46.279 The regime that's on. 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:50.280 The vergi of collapse is threatening our current supplies of energy. 0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:54.680 And if this regime falls, then what happens there's nobody 0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.600 who is our ally to threaten the United States. And 0:53:57.680 --> 0:54:01.800 so in a future conflict over Taiwan, if we decide 0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.880 that we're not going to allow China their import of energy, 0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.680 it's a complete game changer. We now have a massive 0:54:08.760 --> 0:54:13.640 strategic trump card over the Chinese Communist Party. They know 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:18.520 that you've seen also that Iran as a foothold into 0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:22.280 an entire region. The infrastructure projects that they've been investing 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:24.799 in hundreds of billions of dollars to pay for the 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:25.880 illicit oil. 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:27.840 Will all go up in flames. 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:31.920 And so they've lost Venezuela as their foothold in the 0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:36.200 Western hemisphere in Latin America. They might now lose Iran 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:39.480 as their foothold in the Middle East and Central Asia. 0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:44.319 This is a massive, massive setback for China on a 0:54:44.360 --> 0:54:45.560 strategic level. 0:54:45.840 --> 0:54:49.240 Now not everything is roses rich I was very disturbed 0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:52.640 by the United Kingdom's initial at least seventy two hour 0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:55.600 delay in allowing the United States use Diego, Garcia and 0:54:55.719 --> 0:54:59.600 United Kingdom airfields. Now Spain is separated completely from US. 0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.080 First of all, should the United Kingdom be in the 0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:06.400 Five Eyes anymore? In second, they've given anti NATO people. 0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:10.200 These two countries more ammo than any isolationist in America 0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:13.319 could have hoped to gotten. They've done grave damage to 0:55:13.360 --> 0:55:14.280 the Atlantic Alliance. 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:19.920 Yeah, I mean Starmar has been a great disappointment throughout 0:55:19.960 --> 0:55:23.040 this process and the lead up to operations already threatening 0:55:23.080 --> 0:55:28.359 the use of a British bases by American forces. There 0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:32.640 was an initial support for operations that we saw from Canada, 0:55:32.719 --> 0:55:35.719 from Australia, from the United Kingdom. The Uanik Kingdom has 0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:38.000 now been attacked. It would appear in Cyprus at its 0:55:38.000 --> 0:55:42.600 own base by hesbel Up. Potentially. They have apparently allowed 0:55:42.680 --> 0:55:46.160 us to start using their bases for offensive operations. But 0:55:46.760 --> 0:55:49.960 the dance that Starmer thinks he has to play domestically, 0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:52.880 he looks so weak as he tries to communicate a 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:56.800 Waffley position. Are you for the most radical terror sponsoring 0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.000 regime on Earth? Or are you against it? Are you 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:01.840 with your closest ally or you against it? They have 0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:04.000 all the intelligence that we would have shared with them. 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:06.960 That's why, by the way, we saw Australia and Canada, 0:56:07.040 --> 0:56:09.399 other Five Eye allies come out very quickly and say 0:56:09.440 --> 0:56:12.959 we support this action. What the United States was seeing, 0:56:12.960 --> 0:56:15.600 what the President was seeing on the intel, on missiles, 0:56:15.880 --> 0:56:19.680 on nuclear on the threat of terrorism. Our closest ally 0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:23.240 saw that as well. Great Britain has been a subject 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:26.960 to assassination plots on its own soil by the Revolutionary 0:56:27.000 --> 0:56:30.239 Guard Core. And of course, if you can't have your 0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.200 closest allies stand with you in a moment like this 0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.520 and at least say we support it, you can use 0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:38.200 our bases? My god, what are we supposed to do 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:41.239 with this? Ally, I will give them some credit. They 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.239 are even if politically they're trying to play to their 0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:47.640 left wing base at home, the truth is is that 0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:50.200 they are allowing us to use the bases they are 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:53.560 in participating at least in defensive operations. Maybe that will 0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:57.239 change the offensive operations. So there is still value in 0:56:57.320 --> 0:57:00.760 having the military partnership with Great Britain at this hour. 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:04.400 But yeah, we would definitely hope for a much bunch 0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:06.280 better Prime minister in London in the future. 0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:08.800 I'm going to put Spain aside because I want to 0:57:08.800 --> 0:57:11.000 give you at least two minutes three minutes. You're a 0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:15.200 sanctions expert, and you're an American defense spending expert. President 0:57:15.200 --> 0:57:17.680 Trump has told me he wants another half trillion dollars 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.680 on top of the nine hundred billion that was in 0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:22.400 this year's budget. What do you think has to happen 0:57:22.440 --> 0:57:26.040 to American defense spending and of the American sanctions authority 0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:28.240 at the Department of Treasury, with which you're so familiar, 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:30.800 Did they both need to go much stronger? 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:33.760 Well? 0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:37.440 Absolutely, I mean, in some ways, we obviously know that 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:40.040 as we look at this conflict, we know that our 0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:43.440 defense industrial base needs to be in a position to 0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:46.280 flex like it did during World War Two. We cannot 0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:48.400 be in a position like we've seen in other sectors, 0:57:48.400 --> 0:57:53.240 by the way, because of regulations, because of procurement regulations, 0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:55.480 because of all kinds of ways, of just the way 0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:59.760 we've done business for all these decades since the Great War. 0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:02.640 We can't be a position where you can't make munitions 0:58:03.000 --> 0:58:05.120 fast enough. You have to be able to get enough 0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:08.400 munitions of all kinds. You have to have the ability 0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:13.000 to get your interceptors restocked as fast as possible. If 0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.320 we need more factories, we need more workers. We need 0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:16.960 to be going twenty four to seven on lines of 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:21.000 production to have what we need in all theaters. Let's 0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:23.120 do it. Let's not just say, oh, we can't do 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:26.000 it anymore. We're constrained. We're going to have to choose 0:58:26.040 --> 0:58:28.120 between whether we die from this threat or die from 0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.120 that threat. That is not a way to be a 0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:33.800 superpower in the twenty first century. So whatever it takes, 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:37.960 both on the resources being made available to invest in 0:58:38.000 --> 0:58:41.720 that defense industrial base and then the reforms regulatory wise 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:43.880 to make sure we can get things made fast. 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.280 Rich, let me keep you over for another six minutes 0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:47.919 if I can. I got to go to a break 0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:50.200 right now on the sale of new channel and across 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.200 my radio network. Don't go anywhere Rich Goldberg knows of 0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:56.200 which he speaks. Follow them on as at Rich Underscore 0:58:56.320 --> 0:59:02.520 Goldberg and at FDD. I'll be right back. Welcome back 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:04.920 to Melica. I'm hu Hue with Rich Goldberg, one of 0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:09.160 the absolute experts on Iran. Rich, can you give us 0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:12.400 a best case worst case for the region in a 0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:15.000 year from now, a best case and a worst case 0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:15.640 from this war? 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.520 Well, a best case scenario is you've had a peaceful 0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:21.680 transition of. 0:59:21.680 --> 0:59:23.000 Power in Iran. 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:27.840 They're already on schedule, perhaps already had an election. This 0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:30.600 is now an ally of the United States, a partner. 0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:36.200 The potential for infrastructure development together. 0:59:36.320 --> 0:59:39.640 Obviously they're oil market that will. 0:59:39.520 --> 0:59:43.240 Continue to boom in partnership with the United States, not illicitly. 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:46.960 The terror proxies being cut off from their source of 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:50.880 income and support. That means a rock becomes more stable. 0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:53.080 The future of a rock becomes more stable. The future 0:59:53.120 --> 0:59:57.080 of Yemen becomes a question of potential return to stability 0:59:57.280 --> 1:00:01.600 openings for Saudi and UAE finally defeat the Huthies without 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:08.320 the mothership Iran looking after them, and of course Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, 1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:12.000 the West Bank. All of these areas turn in our 1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:16.440 favor because the mothership that sponsors them has fallen. Because 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:19.920 Israel obviously an opportunity along with the Lebanese government to 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:23.400 step up to take on Hesbola and finally dismantle it 1:00:23.440 --> 1:00:26.160 in Lebanon, the future of Lebanon looks bright. We have 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:31.080 a Cyrus Accords between the between Israel and Iran, the 1:00:31.080 --> 1:00:34.440 Abraham Accords expand Saudi normalizes. I mean, this is the 1:00:34.520 --> 1:00:37.120 Kumbaya right piece in our time certainly would be the 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:41.880 rosiest of pictures. Worst case scenario, obviously, is that on 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:46.120 the military objectives of this campaign that were spelled up 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:50.000 by the Pentagon. Today, we have achieved success. The missile 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:53.800 program of Iran has been destroyed as best we can 1:00:53.840 --> 1:00:57.280 do so, its drone program, its navy has been destroyed 1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.800 as best we can do so. It has no ability 1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:04.240 to to move towards nuclear weapons for years to come. Sadly, 1:01:04.320 --> 1:01:06.680 that still means that the Chinese and the Russians can 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:10.400 step in and start helping the Iranian regime rebuild, it 1:01:10.440 --> 1:01:12.520 would still be there, it would still have their proxies, 1:01:12.520 --> 1:01:16.280 it would still be a sponsor of terrorism. It would 1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:19.440 mean that the people were not able to have an uprising, 1:01:19.440 --> 1:01:22.000 were not able to take their country back, and so 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:24.760 we will still stumble along with threats along the way 1:01:24.800 --> 1:01:28.520 from this regime. We will definitely be in a better 1:01:28.600 --> 1:01:33.000 position regionally given the strategic threats that have been eliminated, 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:36.760 But if that political picture has not come to fruition, 1:01:37.560 --> 1:01:41.320 we still have an anti American ally of China and 1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:44.400 Russia sitting there on the Persian Gulf waiting to rebuild. 1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:47.280 Buys US some time to focus finally on China for 1:01:47.680 --> 1:01:50.520 a few years, maybe squeeze Russia a little bit more. 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:53.080 Puts US in control of the Strait of Horror. Moves 1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:57.640 without the threat of retaliation or missile threats or drone 1:01:57.640 --> 1:02:01.600 threats or naval swarms by Iran, but does not get 1:02:01.680 --> 1:02:05.400 us that reset in what the world looks like and 1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:08.200 the biggest defeat for the Chinese Communist Party of losing 1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:10.080 yet another enabler and rich. 1:02:10.200 --> 1:02:13.720 Last question, the President Trump has made the Golden Dome 1:02:14.320 --> 1:02:17.120 one of the centerpieces. And I served in the Reagan 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:19.920 White House, So Republicans that have been talking about strategy 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:23.720 defense initiative for forty five years, how important does this 1:02:23.880 --> 1:02:27.040 become in the aftermath of watching what we're watching, which 1:02:27.120 --> 1:02:29.840 is ballistic missile warfare and interceptors. 1:02:32.680 --> 1:02:35.280 It's super important. I think people should be watching it 1:02:35.320 --> 1:02:35.600 if you. 1:02:35.520 --> 1:02:37.920 Didn't tune in last year or the year before to 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:41.880 watch what Iran was doing with its medium range ballistic missiles, 1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:44.960 knowing that they also have intermediate range ballistic missiles that 1:02:45.080 --> 1:02:48.919 can already reach Europe and seeing the lethality of these 1:02:48.960 --> 1:02:52.000 missile attacks. Watch the pictures that are coming out of 1:02:52.080 --> 1:02:54.720 Israel when there is a direct hit that gets through 1:02:54.720 --> 1:03:01.080 our missile interceptors and kills a number of people, innocent teenagers, kids, 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:04.200 old people who are just taking shelter and trying to 1:03:04.240 --> 1:03:08.400 get through the day even without a nuclear tip on this, 1:03:08.640 --> 1:03:12.000 even thought a warhead, this is a weapon that causes 1:03:12.120 --> 1:03:15.320 mass destruction. And understand what that means if it's an 1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:19.480 intercontinental ballistic missile, whether that's from Russia, whether that's from China, 1:03:19.840 --> 1:03:23.240 North Korea, or potentially god forbid, run in the future 1:03:23.240 --> 1:03:27.000 if we are unsuccessful in this campaign, and then understand 1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:28.840 what American cities would face. 1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:31.240 Why we can never allow that to happen. 1:03:31.680 --> 1:03:33.960 And we have to invest in a system that uses 1:03:34.240 --> 1:03:38.919 both ground based and space based capabilities to make sure 1:03:38.960 --> 1:03:42.120 that our enemies never have the opportunity to rain terror 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:42.760 on our cities. 1:03:42.760 --> 1:03:43.880 Like what you see today. 1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:46.200 Now is at the Kennedy Space Center last week, first 1:03:46.240 --> 1:03:49.320 time I've ever visited, and it's kind of like Disney Tomorrowland. 1:03:49.760 --> 1:03:51.480 I think we need to go all in on this 1:03:51.600 --> 1:03:53.560 in a hurry thirty seconds to your rich I mean 1:03:53.720 --> 1:03:57.440 not yesterday, not tomorrow, but like today, everything in on 1:03:57.520 --> 1:03:58.560 Golden dowme. 1:04:00.440 --> 1:04:02.960 There is nothing more important to our long term national 1:04:03.000 --> 1:04:06.080 security to be able to say to our enemies, you 1:04:06.240 --> 1:04:08.800 have no military option to defeat the homeland of the 1:04:08.880 --> 1:04:12.320 United States. We are in control here. We're going on offense. 1:04:12.680 --> 1:04:16.440 You can't touch us. If we can achieve space superiority 1:04:16.480 --> 1:04:21.000 and missile defense superiority through the Golden Dome, every hypersonic missile, 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:23.880 every project that our enemies are investing in will be 1:04:24.120 --> 1:04:27.320 useless and we will be on offense the entire time. 1:04:27.560 --> 1:04:29.520 Rich Goldberg, always good to talk to you. I'm sure 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:31.920 we'll be talking a lot to the extent you're available. 1:04:31.960 --> 1:04:34.400 I appreciate the time today because I know your calendar 1:04:34.480 --> 1:04:37.440 must be jammed. Thank you, Rich Goldberg, and to all 1:04:37.480 --> 1:04:39.800 the people at the Foundations for the Defense of Democrial Piece, 1:04:39.840 --> 1:04:42.880 Thanks for all the work get done for decades. Stay tuned, America. 1:04:42.960 --> 1:04:45.600 I'm you, Hewett. This is the normal segment for normal people. 1:04:45.640 --> 1:04:49.880 Bethany Mandel, co founder of themom Wars dot substact dot com, 1:04:50.000 --> 1:04:53.320 co author of Stolen Youth. Bethany The United States State 1:04:53.400 --> 1:04:59.240 Department just urged Americans to lead about ten countries, including Israel. What, 1:04:59.560 --> 1:05:01.680 of course, I really can't leave Israel. I got to 1:05:01.680 --> 1:05:03.720 stay there. They got jobs, they got kids that take care. 1:05:04.120 --> 1:05:06.320 What are your friends and family telling you in the 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:06.959 Jewish State. 1:05:09.800 --> 1:05:10.480 I mean, the. 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:15.560 Ambassador gave a pretty clear indication that if folks wanted 1:05:15.560 --> 1:05:19.960 to leave, they should leave on Thursday Friday, but no 1:05:19.960 --> 1:05:22.720 one that I know had any real intention of leaving. 1:05:22.760 --> 1:05:24.800 Everyone sort of figured they would hunker down and live 1:05:24.840 --> 1:05:26.720 through this war, just like they lived through the Twelve 1:05:26.760 --> 1:05:30.240 Day War in October seventh and all of the rest. 1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:32.840 Israel is a unique country in the region because they 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:35.960 actually have the capability to defend their citizens. And you know, 1:05:36.400 --> 1:05:39.480 Iraqi got through in the drew some suburb of bit 1:05:39.560 --> 1:05:43.120 Chemish and nine people were killed. But overall, it's a 1:05:43.160 --> 1:05:46.640 pretty safe place to hunker down during a regional war. 1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:50.160 What is your feeling generally about where Iran is headed? 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:52.760 You read the news as closely as any of us do. 1:05:52.960 --> 1:05:55.880 Those of us who are not holding a classification have 1:05:56.000 --> 1:05:58.520 no idea what's going on beyond those of us who 1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:00.720 read faster than anybody else. What's your sense. 1:06:02.680 --> 1:06:05.360 So it's not looking good if you're the Mullas. They 1:06:05.720 --> 1:06:13.000 have lost all air control over Iran, and forty of 1:06:13.000 --> 1:06:16.480 them were killed instantly, and another half dozen were killed, 1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:19.640 you know, since the war started on Saturday afternoon. 1:06:20.680 --> 1:06:21.040 But the. 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:26.960 Masad know where they all are, and so it's a 1:06:27.000 --> 1:06:29.720 different situation than it was in Gaza because the intelligence 1:06:29.800 --> 1:06:32.640 was not great there because the majority of the residents 1:06:32.640 --> 1:06:38.280 of Gaza are in cahoots with Hamas or they side 1:06:38.280 --> 1:06:41.360 with Hamas ideologically. It's not the case in Iran. The 1:06:41.480 --> 1:06:44.240 vast majority of people in Iran are not supportive of 1:06:44.280 --> 1:06:48.080 the regime and they're actively working to hinder them by 1:06:48.200 --> 1:06:51.960 working with Masad. And so the intelligence for the Americans 1:06:51.960 --> 1:06:54.920 in the Israelis is very good inside of Iran. 1:06:55.160 --> 1:06:58.960 So, Bethany, I'm not in ISRAELI obviously I'm not Jewish. 1:06:59.000 --> 1:07:01.480 But you study a lot of history and very rarely 1:07:01.560 --> 1:07:04.840 do figures as significant as baby net Nyahu come across 1:07:04.840 --> 1:07:08.640 your screen. What do you hear people in Israel and 1:07:08.680 --> 1:07:12.160 in the Jewish community in America saying about Bibi right now? 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:16.640 As as look, anything could go wrong, very very very wrong. 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:19.120 Lots more than nine people can get killed in Israel. 1:07:19.520 --> 1:07:21.960 But what do you think they're thinking about him right now? 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:24.320 Because it seems like sometimes a man meets the moment. 1:07:25.720 --> 1:07:29.160 Yeah, So overall, I don't know many people who are 1:07:29.240 --> 1:07:32.240 fans of Netsa Nyah who anymore. That being said, in 1:07:32.280 --> 1:07:35.360 moments like these, I think I think the consensus is 1:07:35.400 --> 1:07:37.160 more or less no one else would have done this 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:38.560 except Netta Yaho. 1:07:38.960 --> 1:07:40.520 He's very much like Trump in this way. 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:42.800 You need someone who just will do what needs to 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:47.320 be done, and it doesn't care about the the sort 1:07:47.360 --> 1:07:50.400 of reaction of the world, reaction of anyone in the country. 1:07:50.440 --> 1:07:51.880 This is just this is the objective. 1:07:51.920 --> 1:07:54.240 This is what needs to be done, and I don't 1:07:54.240 --> 1:07:55.120 care if I'm popular. 1:07:55.200 --> 1:07:56.320 This is what needs to happen. 1:07:56.760 --> 1:07:59.200 And no one on planet Earth has been yelling more 1:08:00.160 --> 1:08:02.880 loudly or more frequently about the threat of Iran than 1:08:02.920 --> 1:08:05.800 the thread of a nuclear Iran than Benjamin Etaniahu. And 1:08:05.840 --> 1:08:09.960 so he's meeting the moment, and he has explained to 1:08:10.040 --> 1:08:13.200 the world why this moment really should have happened ten 1:08:13.280 --> 1:08:15.760 twenty years ago, but better late than ever. And he 1:08:15.840 --> 1:08:18.879 has a president here in the United States who agrees 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:20.799 with him that this moment needs to happen. 1:08:21.120 --> 1:08:24.559 Now a final question, Bethany, I am not surprised. I'm 1:08:24.560 --> 1:08:28.840 somewhat disappointed that people with tds who have been longtime 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:33.720 enemies of Iran still can't put their tds down for 1:08:33.880 --> 1:08:38.280 even a week to say good on Donald Trump. Is 1:08:38.280 --> 1:08:39.519 that ever going to change. 1:08:41.240 --> 1:08:44.479 It's really shocking and disappointing to see the progressive reaction 1:08:44.640 --> 1:08:49.160 to this, because there is nothing more antithetical to what 1:08:49.200 --> 1:08:52.599 they claim to believe than that Iranian regime. They're throwing 1:08:52.680 --> 1:08:56.920 gay men and women off of rooftops, They're subjugating women 1:08:56.960 --> 1:08:59.559 and putting them in he jobs and denying them in education. 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:00.960 Would think as a. 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:05.120 Progressive you would celebrate the death of the eyototally, even 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:07.360 if you don't love Trump, even if you don't love 1:09:07.920 --> 1:09:13.160 our involvement anything. This is a singular moment of hope 1:09:13.320 --> 1:09:16.800 and liberty in this part of the world that has 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:20.320 been denied it for so long, and I truly don't understand, 1:09:20.320 --> 1:09:24.120 as a former progressive, how they can not celebrate. 1:09:24.439 --> 1:09:28.240 And a last question, are you letting your youngsters watch 1:09:28.320 --> 1:09:32.720 this twenty four to seven, because it's not unlike Grenada 1:09:32.840 --> 1:09:35.600 if they were ten years older. There's a turn that 1:09:35.720 --> 1:09:38.559 came in nineteen eighty three. I was in law school then, 1:09:38.680 --> 1:09:41.200 but everyone knew it was a turn back from where 1:09:41.200 --> 1:09:43.679 we had gone, and this is a pretty significant turn. 1:09:44.200 --> 1:09:46.800 Are you watching it with them? 1:09:47.360 --> 1:09:49.639 I watched it with them, funny enough, on Saturday, when 1:09:49.680 --> 1:09:52.280 it was the Sabbath, I had a couple of our 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:55.360 kids at a hotel for my family's bar Mitzvah, and 1:09:55.439 --> 1:09:58.639 so we were standing in the lobby watching it. Other 1:09:58.720 --> 1:10:01.160 than that, we've been giving them sort of cursory updates. 1:10:01.200 --> 1:10:03.679 But they were pretty scared when we were in Israel 1:10:03.720 --> 1:10:05.639 that we would sort of live through a siren. And 1:10:05.720 --> 1:10:08.880 we were able to disabuse them of the belief that 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:11.960 the only thing that Israel experiences is war, and so 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:14.599 we don't want to redo that. 1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:18.280 Ah very interesting. I did talk to him Ete Segal 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:22.720 earlier today. He's got an infant and he said, the 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:25.880 thing is that everyone in Israel is now sleep deprive 1:10:26.080 --> 1:10:28.720 like those who have infants, because they're going back and 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:31.040 forth to the shelters. Have you heard that as well 1:10:31.080 --> 1:10:31.839 from your friends? 1:10:33.080 --> 1:10:34.479 Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 1:10:34.840 --> 1:10:38.439 And tonight starts the most fun Jewish holiday Parum, which 1:10:38.600 --> 1:10:42.599 is aptly timed God has a sense of humor, the 1:10:42.600 --> 1:10:45.160 defeat of the Persians who tried to kill the Jews. 1:10:45.840 --> 1:10:48.880 It's the most fun Jewish holiday. Kids dressed up in costumes, 1:10:48.880 --> 1:10:52.439 there's lots of candy involved. Is basically Jewish Halloween, and 1:10:52.479 --> 1:10:55.000 so there's some disappointment that the kids are missing it 1:10:55.000 --> 1:10:58.320 in Israel this year. But this is modern day perum 1:10:58.400 --> 1:11:00.280 happening you know, in real time right now in front 1:11:00.280 --> 1:11:00.839 of their eyes. 1:11:00.920 --> 1:11:04.519 Yeah, we need what'd be a Mordecai noa a han On? 1:11:04.600 --> 1:11:08.160 Did I get that right? Yeah? All right? 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Now, Selena, I was on 1:12:46.439 --> 1:12:49.880 vacation last week and I spent the weekend trying to 1:12:49.920 --> 1:12:54.040 follow reaction. What is your sense of public opinion regarding 1:12:54.160 --> 1:12:54.840 the Iran war. 1:12:57.240 --> 1:13:01.120 I think that the public and I've gone around and 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:02.639 talked to people about it. 1:13:03.000 --> 1:13:03.920 People are. 1:13:05.640 --> 1:13:09.240 Understand that Iran has been a threat for most of 1:13:09.280 --> 1:13:12.040 our lifetimes for a lot of us. For a very 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:16.200 long time since the bombings during the Reagan era, there 1:13:16.240 --> 1:13:19.640 have been many times where there have been a substantial 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:23.479 loss of life in the hands of Iran directly or 1:13:23.520 --> 1:13:26.719 through their other terrorist groups that they sponsor. 1:13:27.360 --> 1:13:30.120 And so, you know, Americans want to feel safe. 1:13:30.200 --> 1:13:32.599 They want to know that their treasure, which is their 1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:35.800 children and their grandchildren, are safe, and they're willing to 1:13:35.880 --> 1:13:38.559 give the president some of. 1:13:38.600 --> 1:13:41.440 Leeway here in terms of. 1:13:41.200 --> 1:13:45.160 Making that decision, understanding why he needed to make that decision. 1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:50.080 And I think that if this while goes long, that'll 1:13:50.080 --> 1:13:53.880 be different. But we're two days in and so I 1:13:53.920 --> 1:13:56.960 think the American public is very patient right now. 1:13:57.160 --> 1:13:57.400 Now. 1:13:57.479 --> 1:14:01.680 If you go on social media, that is a completely 1:14:01.760 --> 1:14:05.400 different world. But I have long learned that social media 1:14:05.479 --> 1:14:08.479 is not an arbitra of how the American public feels 1:14:08.520 --> 1:14:09.160 about something. 1:14:09.320 --> 1:14:12.960 I agree with that. In fact, it's a false flag often, Selena, 1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:16.600 have you talked to the president since the war began? No, 1:14:16.960 --> 1:14:19.560 I have not got you on heat dial, And he 1:14:19.720 --> 1:14:22.519 talked to John Carl Jake. He's doing the beltwait thing 1:14:22.560 --> 1:14:25.559 instead of talking to the heartland through the Selena Zito column. 1:14:25.560 --> 1:14:27.639 So I expect your phone will be ringing pretty soon. 1:14:27.920 --> 1:14:28.840 What are you going to ask him? 1:14:28.880 --> 1:14:29.479 What he calls. 1:14:31.720 --> 1:14:34.920 I'm just going to ask him about the decision making, 1:14:35.120 --> 1:14:39.640 about why he believes this is the best thing for 1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:43.439 the country, and give him the opportunity to talk about 1:14:43.520 --> 1:14:44.679 that in detail. 1:14:45.080 --> 1:14:48.280 I think that's really important. What were you thinking in 1:14:48.400 --> 1:14:51.680 terms of the heartland, in terms of our military. What 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:55.120 was the thought process that you believed that this was 1:14:55.160 --> 1:14:57.240 an important thing to do in the moment? 1:14:57.680 --> 1:15:00.040 Now, Selena, I keep on my desk in the the 1:15:00.360 --> 1:15:05.000 production studio in California, the patch for JP Blacksmith. JP 1:15:05.200 --> 1:15:08.200 was killed in the First Battle of Fallujah on November eleventh, 1:15:08.240 --> 1:15:12.400 two thousand and four. United States Naval Academy graduate. I 1:15:12.479 --> 1:15:15.559 knew his dad. I taught his sister. The cost of 1:15:15.600 --> 1:15:19.640 war is real. We've already lost American military and civilians 1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:23.799 in Israel. I expect the President or the Vice President 1:15:23.840 --> 1:15:27.639 will be at the dignified transfer of remain ceremony at 1:15:28.400 --> 1:15:31.160 Dovert when they arrived. Do you think the President takes 1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:35.519 this as hard as to say, W did? Oh? 1:15:35.640 --> 1:15:38.759 Yeah, I absolutely do, and I can tell you why 1:15:39.360 --> 1:15:41.280 he's still taking it very hard. 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:44.719 When CORTICOMBATORI lost his life in Butler. 1:15:45.720 --> 1:15:48.640 That is something that really hits him hard because he 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:51.280 understands that that was someone who was coming to see 1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:55.280 him and to enjoy the day, and so that weighs 1:15:55.320 --> 1:15:58.240 on his mind. And I was thinking, you know, it's 1:15:58.240 --> 1:16:01.759 really I was thinking about in these past couple of days, 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:04.879 is this is this has gone on? And I remember 1:16:04.920 --> 1:16:07.360 what he said to me about there is a reason 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:10.799 that I was saved that day. There was a reason 1:16:11.160 --> 1:16:15.680 that God wanted me to be around to make decisions 1:16:15.720 --> 1:16:17.959 to be president, and I have to live. 1:16:17.920 --> 1:16:19.080 Up to that purpose. 1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:23.519 And the past two days really made me think this 1:16:23.640 --> 1:16:26.799 may be one of the great reasons. 1:16:26.360 --> 1:16:27.200 That he was saved. 1:16:27.400 --> 1:16:30.599 Yeah, I'm not quite sure the president's theology. I support 1:16:30.640 --> 1:16:33.879 Israel because the best ally America, and I'm a Zionist 1:16:33.920 --> 1:16:36.800 because every people deserve their state. But I'm not a 1:16:36.960 --> 1:16:39.760 quote Christian Zionist believing in end times. But I do 1:16:39.800 --> 1:16:42.400 think it's providential that Trump and nen Yahoo are in 1:16:42.520 --> 1:16:46.240 charge right now because they both have a great deal 1:16:46.320 --> 1:16:47.120 of spine. 1:16:48.560 --> 1:16:53.360 Yes, yes, and that is you know, a very think 1:16:53.400 --> 1:16:58.559 about the King Cyrus, right, but think Jews lean into 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:03.800 their most robable protector, which would be the cursion King 1:17:04.280 --> 1:17:06.960 King Cyrus, and yet he is the one that led 1:17:07.000 --> 1:17:11.400 them to safety, right, kept them from being killed. So 1:17:11.479 --> 1:17:16.800 there's all kinds of contradictory things with leaders and religion 1:17:17.240 --> 1:17:20.320 that you sometimes think don't light up or don't don't 1:17:20.400 --> 1:17:20.920 make sense. 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:23.160 But I do think it's really important. 1:17:23.160 --> 1:17:26.160 But you know, we always talk about history repeating itself 1:17:26.240 --> 1:17:29.280 or history rhyming. You know what's happening two hundred and 1:17:29.320 --> 1:17:34.000 fifty years ago today, right, they were getting ready for 1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:41.839 the siege of Boston Dorchester Heights. Washington had said time. 1:17:41.640 --> 1:17:45.280 For the bombardment, and he did that fake out where 1:17:45.360 --> 1:17:50.240 the Brits thought he was going for Boston, but he was. 1:17:50.280 --> 1:17:53.720 They were actually coming in quietly with Henry Knox and 1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:57.280 all those cannons that he brought from for tig. 1:17:58.920 --> 1:18:02.880 You know, taikwon Henry Knox from the Great State of Maine. 1:18:03.080 --> 1:18:04.840 I do want to pick up on something you said. 1:18:04.880 --> 1:18:07.080 I remember the chapter in your first book, King Cyrus, 1:18:07.160 --> 1:18:12.360 Christians and the Great Revolt is Selina's first book or 1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:18.120 second as butler. Cyrus the Great ruled in Persia five 1:18:18.160 --> 1:18:20.639 hundred and fifty years before Christ, So a long time ago. 1:18:20.800 --> 1:18:26.960 The oldest people that people known relationship state to state 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:32.240 is Persia and Israel. It's a little known fact. They 1:18:32.280 --> 1:18:35.920 are longtime allies. The last forty seven years is an aberration. 1:18:36.800 --> 1:18:39.479 We got to get back to the cyrus Israel Neemiah 1:18:39.560 --> 1:18:40.519 Ezra days. 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:43.120 Yeah. Absolutely. 1:18:43.240 --> 1:18:46.360 I remember Brad and I did a talk Brad Hadna, 1:18:46.520 --> 1:18:47.240 my co author. 1:18:47.520 --> 1:18:51.920 We did a talk on DA drive to a group 1:18:51.960 --> 1:18:53.800 of Persian Jews. 1:18:54.120 --> 1:18:57.920 And I was like, I completely forgot that this is 1:18:57.960 --> 1:18:59.040 what even existed. 1:19:00.040 --> 1:19:03.880 Yeah, well, the diaspora out here, the Iranian diaspora is 1:19:03.960 --> 1:19:08.520 extraordinarily animated, energetic. I don't see a lot of coverage. 1:19:08.720 --> 1:19:11.880 There's been a couple little photos of the Persian diaspora. 1:19:12.280 --> 1:19:14.960 But are they in Pittsburgh. They don't live in Neanserland, 1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:15.479 right they. 1:19:16.360 --> 1:19:19.480 Yeah, yeah, we have a significant Iranian population. 1:19:19.640 --> 1:19:20.919 My story will be up tomorrow. 1:19:21.240 --> 1:19:24.080 Oh okay, you should have gone up to Cleveland. That's 1:19:24.080 --> 1:19:27.080 where they really go. They're bronze fans. Selena Zito. I 1:19:27.120 --> 1:19:29.719 will look for the column tomorrow. Follow her on ex 1:19:29.760 --> 1:19:33.640 everyone at zito Selena and everything that she writes is 1:19:33.680 --> 1:19:37.000 available at Selenazito dot com. She works for the Posts 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:40.080 both Washington and New York. For the Washington Examiner for 1:19:40.160 --> 1:19:43.160 the Pittsburgh Post Becausette, you name it, she writes for it. 1:19:43.280 --> 1:19:46.040 Prolific is her middle name. I'll be right back in America. 1:19:46.120 --> 1:19:47.479 Stay tuned to The Uwitt Show.