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Speaker 1: Larry Elder. We are Salem NewsChannel. What's this four point

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Speaker 1: three percent GDP growth last quarter? Say it ain't so

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Speaker 1: four point three percent. What's the last time you've seen

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden claims that the laptop are the some put

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Speaker 1: It was fake news. Even Hunter Biden, in an interview

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Speaker 1: Epstein files. Democrats like Bill Clinton are starting to sweat.

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Speaker 1: Sixty minutes pools an anti Trump piece about Venezuela, causing

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Speaker 1: consternation among the old hands. At sixty minutes, J. D.

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Speaker 1: Vance says, in the United States, you no longer have

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Speaker 1: to apologize any more for being white? What about for

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Speaker 1: being the black face of white supremacy. Supreme Court rejects

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Speaker 1: Trump's emergency request to deploy the National Guard to Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Tim Wallas is in the crosshairs on the Somali fraud,

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Speaker 1: much as nine billion dollars might have been stolen. Seattle's

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Speaker 1: King County releases the illegal alien truck driver accused of

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Speaker 1: I mean by dominate ninety percent, ninety five percent, ninety

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Speaker 1: DEI when you need it? Gas prices are the lowest

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Speaker 1: the economy. Yesterday I told you that the economy can't

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Speaker 1: not go up. Extending the Trump tax cuts will have

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Speaker 1: an economic benefit. I said. Drill, baby, drill, will have

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Speaker 1: huge economic boone. All these trillions of dollars of investments

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Speaker 1: huge economic impact. And now this is New York Times.

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Speaker 1: New York Times hates Donald Trump. Let me read you

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Speaker 1: the headline from the New York tames US economic growth surged.

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Speaker 1: Their verb, not mine, surged. In the third quarter of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Subheadline, gross domestic product grew at four

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Speaker 1: Did I mention this is the New York Times. I

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Speaker 1: think I mentioned that. Ms McConnell. Did I say New

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Speaker 1: York Times, Because sometimes you know, I go so fast,

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Speaker 1: I don't remember first sentence. The US economy grew at

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Speaker 1: a vigorous pace through the end of September, despite uncertainty

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Speaker 1: created by tariffs and widespread concerns about affordability among households.

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Speaker 1: End of quote. Now why do you suppose there are

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Speaker 1: widespread concerns about affordability because of you? During the Biden years,

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Speaker 1: one year, we had two point five million legal aliens

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Speaker 1: coming into the country. By one estimate, upholster ask American

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Speaker 1: year the average answer was two hundred and fifty thousand,

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Speaker 1: so they were off by a factor of ten. Why

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Speaker 1: because when Biden came in, I'm watching Fox News and

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Speaker 1: I cut over into CNN and over to msnbhi HAA

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Speaker 1: about thirty seconds. But nothing having to do with the borders,

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Speaker 1: to the point where most Americans were oblivious to what

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Speaker 1: story helped Biden quote unquote when twenty twenty, Please explain

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Speaker 1: we're up against. How can this be? So? Economic growth?

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Speaker 1: have an economic benefit for housing. Yet consumer sentiment remains negative. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you're watching CBNCBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, msnbh HA, and

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Speaker 1: And Media Research Center found ABC, CBS, NBC they still

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Speaker 1: Over ninety two percent of the coverage of Donald Trump

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Speaker 5: Fine, I just wanted to say I heard the Mclasslin reports.

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Speaker 1: Trump presumably doesn't understand how feedback for your economic policies

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Speaker 1: can come and bite you in the rear. Left to himself,

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Speaker 1: he thinks, I know this. I'm a businessman, and God

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Speaker 1: do some very strange stuff. Close quote. Now, do you

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Speaker 1: suppose Paul Krugman had any blooming idea that within a

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Speaker 1: matter of months we would have a quarter of four

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Speaker 1: had any blooming idea that inflation right now would be

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Speaker 1: year to year two point seven lower than the inflation

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Speaker 1: you think that Paul Krugman saying what he said about

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Speaker 1: Trump shortly after Liberation Day, would have said that, knowing

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Speaker 1: that income to now outpacing inflation, gas prices at a

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Speaker 1: four year low. Of course not he predicted the opposite.

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Speaker 1: They were wrong. Triple eight nine seven one s A

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Speaker 1: Always nice to hear from you.

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Speaker 10: Oh it's my honor stage. Merry Christmas to you from

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Speaker 10: Jesse and me here in surprise, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much for that. Merry Christmas to you

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Speaker 1: too as well. Appreciate the call. Charles is in Seattle. Charles,

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Speaker 1: you're on the Larial the show. Thank you for calling.

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Speaker 11: Lorenzo Honor to speak with you. And I love you, brother,

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Speaker 11: Thank you. Christmas, God bless you. Yes, and I'm when

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Speaker 11: you've be the governor in California. And but but then

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Speaker 11: we wouldn't have you to listen to you on the school.

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Speaker 1: Well, if if Gavin Newsom has time to do a podcast,

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Speaker 1: maybe I could continue my show and still be governor.

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Speaker 11: Okay, uh yeah, I got a question about trump host

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Speaker 11: policy with the Chinese students. He's letting hims staying or

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Speaker 11: anything like that, and what's your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't like it. My suspicion is that Trump

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Speaker 1: has done pretty much a reversal on that because he's

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Speaker 1: negotiating other things with China, including rare earth materials minerals

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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, Trump reversed himself. He talked about

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Speaker 1: the fact that these Chinese students were here and that

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Speaker 1: every Chinese student still has to report the government of China.

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Speaker 11: And.

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Speaker 1: Trump seemed to suggest that he was going to rescind

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Speaker 1: be able to study here in America. He has done

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Speaker 1: a reversal. I'm not quite sure why. I think it

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Speaker 1: not sure. I'm not sure what's going on behind the scenes.

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Speaker 1: All I know is that it certainly seems to be

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Speaker 1: a one to eighty from what we thought Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: was going to do. Let's turn to Hunter Biden, shall

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Speaker 1: we This man is claiming now with a straight face,

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Speaker 9: So what I can tell you about the laptop is

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Speaker 5: There was no laptop.

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Speaker 9: There is an actual physical laptop that somebody had. But

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Speaker 9: the guy that said he had the laptop, the existence

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Speaker 9: Hanter Biden's hard drive from Dmitri Fertash and Andre Dirkasch

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Speaker 9: even nobody ever existed.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even Democrats are acknowledging the laptop exists. Even

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Speaker 1: even said, yeah, well I was wrong, but if it

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Speaker 1: prevented Donald Trump from getting elected, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 1: And now hunter By, it's saying that the laptop was

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Speaker 1: not authentic. We come back. Hunter also said something about

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Speaker 1: Triple eight ninety seven one s A g e. I'm

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Speaker 1: Larry Elder.

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Speaker 2: When you hate John Christmas.

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Speaker 9: So what I can tell you about the laptop there

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Speaker 9: is that there is no laptop. That that's both what

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Speaker 9: was provided out there what the There was no laptop.

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Speaker 9: There is an actual physical laptop that somebody had, but

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Speaker 9: the guy that had that said he had the laptop.

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Speaker 9: The existence of the search for the laptop came before

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Speaker 9: he was even a twinkle in rue Giuliani's eye.

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Speaker 1: There were people.

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Speaker 9: It took led partners. That partners literally went to Ukraine

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Speaker 9: to get a laptop from Dmitri Fertash to get a

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Speaker 9: hard drive. Hunter Biden's hard drive from Dmitri Fertash and

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Speaker 9: Andre Dirkash in Ukraine in Austria four months before John

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Speaker 9: Paul mcgeaac ever, even nobody ever existed.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one Sage Triple eight nine seven

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Speaker 1: one seventy two four to three. I am Larry Elder, Yes,

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Speaker 1: News Channel, The laptops didn't exist. It's all bs, says Hunter.

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Speaker 1: Now as you know four years minimum of twelve million.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump says twenty million legal aliens came through our

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Speaker 1: southern border. It is one of the reasons that Trump

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Speaker 1: was reelected in twenty twenty four. Check out what Hunter

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Speaker 9: Because we need immigration, we need a vibrant immigration, but

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Speaker 9: we don't want immigrants that are coming here illegally, draining

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Speaker 9: us of resources and also and being prioritized above people

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Speaker 9: that are actual literal heroes. They're coming home.

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Speaker 1: God, he sounds like Donald Trump. Let me hear that again.

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Speaker 9: Because we need immigration, we need a vibrant immigration, but

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Speaker 9: we don't want immigrants that are coming here illegally, draining

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Speaker 9: us of resources and also and being prioritized above people

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Speaker 9: that are actual literal heroes. They're coming home.

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Speaker 1: Did Hunter Biden advise his father against open borders? By

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Speaker 1: the way, Gavin Newsom has now admitted giving health care

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Speaker 1: to illegal aliens. Number three?

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Speaker 12: Is it released on doc healthcare? Yeah, I'm proud of

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Speaker 12: that because I believe in universal health care. You know,

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Speaker 12: others may say it. I did it first state in

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Speaker 12: the country, regardless of pre existing editions, abillity to pay,

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Speaker 12: and regardless of your immigration status. I promised that. I

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Speaker 12: promoted it. I ran three times on it. I did

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Speaker 12: it when I was mayor. People know who I am.

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Speaker 12: We failed on the border. We need to own up

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Speaker 12: to that largest border crossing in the western hemisphere in

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Speaker 12: my state. Spend billion plus dollars to do migrant centers

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Speaker 12: try to put a lid on things, and it was

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Speaker 12: quite critical, but I tried to do it in a

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Speaker 12: respectful way of the Biden. Mister, we failed.

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Speaker 1: I gave health care regardless of immigration status. I ran

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Speaker 1: on that, I did it. I can't wait for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. I'm Larry Older.

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Speaker 2: Let's get her teed up.

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Speaker 11: Lost to my.

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Speaker 1: Ear the subde Go triple eight nine seven one Sage

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Speaker 1: I am Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel. In

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Speaker 1: a few minutes, we're going to talk to someone from

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Speaker 1: Americans for a Balanced Budget about the Obamacare tax credits,

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Speaker 1: the deadline, and about what would happen in the event

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Speaker 1: that those tax credits were not extended. Now. When Obamacare

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Speaker 1: was passed in twenty ten, I wrote a piece. I'm

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Speaker 1: a syndicated columnist. I've been writing a syndicated column since

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Speaker 1: April of nineteen ninety eight, which is roughly thirteen fourteen

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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred columns. You do the math once a week.

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Speaker 1: I missed a couple of weeks when I was running

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Speaker 1: for governor, and I think they allow me to take

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Speaker 1: off two weeks for Christmas. I normally don't take off

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Speaker 1: the two weeks. Every now and then I might take

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Speaker 1: off one week, So pretty much I've written an article

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Speaker 1: once a week since April of nineteen ninety eight, and

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Speaker 1: I've written extensively about the so called health care crisis.

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Speaker 1: And in two thousand and ten, right before Obamacare was passed,

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Speaker 1: with their health care, either getting it on Medicare or Medicaid,

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Speaker 1: or through their own employers or bought it privately. When

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Speaker 1: you really got down to it, maybe about five percent

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Speaker 1: or so if people were without health care. But the

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Speaker 1: Democrats kept calling it a healthcare crisis, health care crisis,

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Speaker 1: so that therefore they could justify a big, huge government intrusion.

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Speaker 1: We played you part of that speech that private citizen

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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan gave in nineteen sixty one, where he talked

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but Reagan said, after all, who could be

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Speaker 1: getting health care? And he said it's a perfectly common reaction,

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Speaker 1: but essentially says, it doesn't justify why the government has

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Speaker 1: to be the response for this situation. And he predicted

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Speaker 1: that after seniors get it, then others will get it,

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Speaker 1: and eventually the idea is for government to be in

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Speaker 1: charge completely of our health care insurance. Government is just

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Speaker 1: another euphemism, of course, for taxpayers, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 1: has happened. There is a strong argument, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: that Social Security was a bad idea. The strong argument.

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Speaker 1: If the idea is to make sure that older people,

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Speaker 1: when they got to a certain age, had some source

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Speaker 1: of income, there are plenty of ways of doing it

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Speaker 1: short of the government taking money out of your paycheck

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Speaker 1: and then giving it back to you at the age

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Speaker 1: of sixty or sixty five. When had you invested that

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Speaker 1: had a substantially better rate of return at A and

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Speaker 1: B you'd have had an asset that you can will

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Speaker 1: to your children right now pretty much after you die

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Speaker 1: having been on social Security. Poof, it's all gone. They

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Speaker 1: privatized it in England, believe it or not. They privatized

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Speaker 1: it in New Zealand, they privatize it in Chile. But somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way, when George W. Bush was suggesting that you

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Speaker 1: would be able to invest part of your social security contribution,

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi later on called it a gift and used

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Speaker 1: it to bludgeon Republicans. And after the polls show that

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Speaker 1: social security, Republicans engaged in one of their favorite exercises,

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Speaker 1: which is to run for the hills, leaving George W.

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Speaker 1: Bush hanging. Nancy Pelosi recently even said George W. Bush

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Speaker 1: privatizing part of it. And she said that's good enough

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Speaker 1: for me. Jeraldine Ferraro, who is the vice presidential running

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Speaker 1: mate under Walter Mondale, she said, if you lack the

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Speaker 1: knowledge and the wherewithal to invest your money, you're just

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Speaker 1: out of luck. And so it became very unpopular and

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Speaker 1: virtually nobody's even suggested it. Since then, think about what

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Speaker 1: Geraldine Ferraro was saying. You're too stupid to figure out

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Speaker 1: a way of investing your own money. You're not too

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Speaker 1: stupid to figure out how to drive a car. Think

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Speaker 1: about how complicated driving a car is, knowing all the

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Speaker 1: rules of the road, watching all these people while you're

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Speaker 1: operating something that's that's extremely dangerous. But somehow, some way,

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Speaker 1: people figure it out how to do that. How complicated,

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Speaker 1: how important, how grave a decision it is to have children.

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Speaker 1: Yet we allow people to do that, but they're too

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Speaker 1: stupid to be able to figure out how to put

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Speaker 1: their money in a mutual fund or to put their

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Speaker 1: money in the stock market. It's pretty insulting. Same thing

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Speaker 1: with medicare. Reagan's speech was four years before medicare. He

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Speaker 1: warned it, warned against it. Reagan, by the way, one

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Speaker 1: time even suggested that we make Social Security optional. Had

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Speaker 1: his head handed to him. He never said it again.

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Speaker 1: My point is these programs have become extremely popular, including Obamacare.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Obamacare is, not only did it pass

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Speaker 1: and Obama did it anyway. Democrats did it anyway because

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Speaker 1: they counted on two things happening. The first is they

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Speaker 1: knew that there would be a constituent of people who

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Speaker 1: didn't have health care insurance before Obamacare who now have it,

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Speaker 1: and they would become a large mobile voting block in

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Speaker 1: the event that the dastily Republicans ever tried to repeal it.

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Speaker 1: And the second is that they knew just as Social

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Speaker 1: would eventually become very popular. The only question is when,

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Speaker 1: and they're absolutely right. When Obamacare got passed, something like

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Speaker 1: sixty percent of Democrats supported it, far more, of course,

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Speaker 1: something like ninety four percent of Democrats do and a

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Speaker 1: large percentage of Republicans do. Not the majority, but at

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Speaker 1: least four or five times more than when it was

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Speaker 1: passed in twenty ten. And remember when it was passed.

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Speaker 1: Harry Reid, the leading Democrat in the Senate, gave an

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Speaker 1: inner view to a local newspaper in Nevada, and he

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Speaker 1: was asked whether or not Obamacare was a stepping stone

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Speaker 1: you can't do it in one fell swoop. You ever

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Speaker 1: do it in piece by piece by piece. But that's

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Speaker 1: the goal. And remember all the promises that were made.

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Speaker 1: If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

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Speaker 1: Turned out wasn't true. If you like your health care plan,

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Speaker 1: you can keep your health care plan. Turned out it

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Speaker 1: wasn't true. When the left wing fact checks even called

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Speaker 1: the claim that you could keep your health care and

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Speaker 1: your doctor if you wanted to the lie of the year.

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Speaker 1: And this is a left wing fact check organization going

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Speaker 1: to bend the cause. Curved down, the average family is

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Speaker 1: going to save twenty five hundred dollars a year in premiums,

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Speaker 1: Accessibility would increase, the use of emergency rooms would decrease.

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Speaker 1: None of these things happened. Er room visits increased, both

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Speaker 1: increased co pays increased, accessibility decreased, and the costs skyrocketed

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Speaker 1: to the point now where even one Senator from Vermont,

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Speaker 1: was its primary objective. They're the ones who designed it,

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Speaker 1: and he designed it so that the Congressional Budget Office

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Speaker 1: would score it well, putting all these burdens down the road,

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Speaker 1: and sooner or later they would expire. And the hope

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Speaker 1: was that by the time they expire, Obamacare has become

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Speaker 1: popular and a large number of people are now benefiting

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Speaker 1: from it. And they would give hell to anybody at

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Speaker 1: the box office, at the ballot office, at the ballot box,

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Speaker 1: box office, ballot box, at the ballot box if they

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Speaker 1: allow Obamacare to go away. And that is exactly what

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Speaker 1: has happened. So now you have all these Republicans running

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Speaker 1: around trying to figure out what to do. The answer,

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Speaker 1: of course, is that Obamacare was the original sin. The

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Speaker 1: answer is that healthcare is a commodity like anything else,

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Speaker 1: like eggs, like flat green TVs, like cars. The more competition,

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Speaker 1: the better. The more competition, the greater innovation. The more competition,

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Speaker 1: the cheaper the prices. The more competition, the greater the accessibility.

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Speaker 1: And that is also true of healthcare. I've talked to

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Speaker 1: a lot of doctors who told me that economics don't

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Speaker 1: work in healthcare. No, they don't work in healthcare because

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Speaker 1: the government's involved. Government pays roughly fifty percent at the

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Speaker 1: state or federal level of our health care tax dollar

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Speaker 1: by definition, that's going to make them market inefficient. But

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Speaker 1: the idea that somehow, some way the private sector could

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Speaker 1: figure this out, somehow, some way fief for services would

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Speaker 1: be better. Any politician to make that our kind of

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Speaker 1: argument will lose elections. And Donald Trump knew that in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. What was his argument, we're going to repeal

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Speaker 1: Obamacare quote and replace it with something better. Is if

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Speaker 1: a Republican design government program is better than a Democrat

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Speaker 1: design government program, there's still government design programs. The answer

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Speaker 1: is competition and free markets. Look at lasik surgery, plastic surgery,

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Speaker 1: hair graphs, none of which are paid for by insurance companies,

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Speaker 1: all of which have gotten better and cheaper because doctors

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Speaker 1: competed against other doctors to offer better services. That's the answer.

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned at the top of the hour, the

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Speaker 1: Obama Care tax credits are set to expire. This poses

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Speaker 3: Thanks Larry, I appreciate it and the fortunately a lot

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Speaker 3: of those good candidates want and made their poll still

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Speaker 3: look good.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely they did. You know, John, I've said this

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Speaker 1: for years. When Obamacare passed through this big piece, and

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Speaker 1: I said, it's going to be one big leap towards

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Speaker 1: what their ultimate objective, objection objective is, which is single payer.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned that Harry Reid gave an interview shortly

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Speaker 1: after Obamacare was passed and he was asked, as this

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Speaker 1: is a step towards single payer, and he said absolutely.

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Speaker 1: As you know, obamable senator and president said if you're

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Speaker 1: starting from scratch, he'd have single payer. So they're the

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Speaker 1: ones who designed this. And while Obamacare has become increasingly

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Speaker 1: popular and Republicans, in my opinion, who say anything other

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Speaker 1: than we have to extend these tax credits are going

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Speaker 1: to be dead in the water. Politically. I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to hurt us big time in the mid terms

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Speaker 1: if we don't do exactly as you're suggesting, which is

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Speaker 1: to extend these credits.

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Speaker 3: Right, But we want to deal with the reforms. As

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Speaker 3: president I'm suggesting, I mean, I mean President Trump. You know,

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Speaker 3: he tried in his first term to try to repeal

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Speaker 3: and replace Obamacare, but they lost by one vote. And

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Speaker 3: now the bills are coming due. And the tough part

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Speaker 3: for us is as Republicans. President Trump got elected as

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Speaker 3: He built this working class coalition that we won the

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Speaker 3: lot of those working class voters they don't have employer healthcare.

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Speaker 3: They're working one, two, three jobs and they have to

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Speaker 3: go to the exchanges to buy health insurance. And when

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Speaker 3: there was healthcare tax credits, which are popular, you have

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Speaker 3: sixteen battleground congressional districts. All likely voters are going to

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Speaker 3: the Republicans are holding those seats right now, and they

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Speaker 3: up there with food in the basics. So you know

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Speaker 3: You were prophetic when you said they want to collapse

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Speaker 3: the system because you know the healthcare tax threats, people

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Speaker 3: saying they want Medicare for all, and you know this

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Speaker 3: So you have a growing economy which is growing faster

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Speaker 3: faster than inflation. And the Democrats want to sabotage the

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Speaker 3: They're going to shut us down again in January over this.

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Speaker 3: And they should work with President Trump to reform the system.

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Speaker 3: Because if you had true healthcare transparency and you had

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Speaker 3: class voters. Sure we could extend the tax credits, which

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Speaker 3: is popular, and it would help Republicans, and it would

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Speaker 3: they just they just want control of Congress. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: in order to work with the Republicans, extend the tax credits,

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Speaker 3: do some reforms to control the costs, increase transparency, do

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Speaker 3: what President Trump said, you know, give the consumers control.

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Speaker 3: But that's a little too complex, that's a little too much.

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Speaker 3: That might be good government, and they actually people might

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Speaker 1: Then, John, we're gonna take a break in just a

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Speaker 1: few a few seconds. But I've always found it interesting

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Speaker 1: that when Republicans want to reduce corporate income tax, Democrats

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Speaker 1: But paying insurance companies direct the money. Uh, they expect

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Speaker 1: them to lower their lost for healthcare, uh, premiums for

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Speaker 1: people to buy, and they're not doing that. So why

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Speaker 1: if you want to cut taxes, you claim they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be greedy and house the money, but you believe that

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Speaker 1: giving money directly to insurance companies they won't be greedy.

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Speaker 1: And how's the money? I want to get your response

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Speaker 1: to that when we come back. John McLoughlin is my guest.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the website is visit Stop Health Cost

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Speaker 1: Hikes dot com. Stop Health Cost Hikes dot com. Larry

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Speaker 1: O to John mcglossin.

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Speaker 1: The website is Stop Health Costs Hikes plural, Stop Health

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Speaker 1: cost Hikes dot com. My guest is John McLoughlin. John,

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Speaker 1: I was just talking about how Democrats don't like U

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Speaker 1: corporate tax because because they claim corporations aren't going to

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Speaker 1: pass off the savings to employees or consumers, but they're

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Speaker 1: perfectly happy giving insurance companies money directly on the assumption

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Speaker 1: that they're going to pass those savings along to patients.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, you know a lot of them except political

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Speaker 3: donations from those health insurance companies. But you know, the

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Speaker 3: key thing is the healthcare tax credits, which helps working

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Speaker 3: class people. We're not talking about people that are not

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Speaker 3: working who need Medicaid or free health care. We're talking

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Speaker 3: about working class people who just can't afford like a

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Speaker 3: lot of these premiums on average, like twenty seven thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars a year, and if you're making less than one

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars, and you know, for a family, that's

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Speaker 3: a lot of money to be put into healthcare on

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Speaker 3: top of rent or a mortgage, or food costs, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: And and you know, when you look at the healthcare

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Speaker 3: tax threads in these congressional battleground districts where the voters

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Speaker 3: are all voters for is seventy to twenty. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you have two thirds, you know, of the independent independent

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Speaker 3: support the healthcare tax threats, seventy three percent among independent women,

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Speaker 3: seventy nine percent among married women Hispanics it's seventy nine percent.

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Speaker 3: You know, So you've got a lot of these voters

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Speaker 3: they're telling you they support it, and the over twenty

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Speaker 3: million people that take advantage of it, they need it.

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Speaker 3: And now you're in a situation where the Republicans and

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Speaker 3: the Democrats are trying to you know, I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: definitely trying to work out some deal where they can

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Speaker 3: get these The Democrats just want a straight extension, but

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Speaker 3: the Republicans want some sort of cost control on the

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Speaker 3: health insurance companies so that the premiums, I mean, the

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Speaker 3: twenty seven thousand dollars a year for health insurance where

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Speaker 3: they got high deductibles, etc. Through the exchanges is not

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Speaker 3: really affordable so they need healthcare reforma as President Trump

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Speaker 3: to suggested it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, John, it's a no brainer that something has to

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Speaker 1: be done. And politically, I think we're going to be

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Speaker 1: savaged in the midterms if we don't do something. What

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Speaker 1: I find interesting you want to get your reaction to

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Speaker 1: it is again, this Obamacare was designed by the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: not a single Republican vote in the House or the Senate.

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Speaker 1: All these time deadlines they put in. But how came

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Speaker 1: Jeffries for first of this as a quote Republican healthcare

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Speaker 1: crisis close quote. And he appears to have gotten away

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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 3: Well, sure, because it's the mainstream media, doesn't you know,

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Speaker 3: the left wing media in the country, the ones who

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Speaker 3: think think about it. President Trump gave a national speech

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Speaker 3: last week, nineteen minutes prime time, and they censored out

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Speaker 3: the graphs that proved his points that inflation is lower

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Speaker 3: under him, the price of guesses down, that wages are

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Speaker 3: going up. They wouldn't show the graphs. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: like all the networks. So so here for Hakim Jeffries,

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Speaker 3: he can say that and CNN doesn't tell him that, Hey,

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Speaker 3: that's not true. I mean, so you know, you get

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Speaker 3: out there and you tell the truth. But it's not

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Speaker 3: a Republican crisis. It's what they built. And again their

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Speaker 3: goal is you your forecast where you said they want

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Speaker 3: to collapse the healthcare system so you can have single payer,

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Speaker 3: government run healthcare. Can you imagine King Jeffrey's telling me

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Speaker 3: when I can get an MRI, I mean, when I

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Speaker 3: can go to when I could get surgery. What if

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Speaker 3: I get cancer? I mean, you'd be like Kenya. How

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Speaker 3: many Canadians come to la come to New York, come

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Speaker 3: to Florida to get healthcare. When they have bad heart surgery,

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Speaker 3: they go to Cleveland Clinic. When they have cancer, they

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Speaker 3: go to they you know, they go to hospitals in

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Speaker 3: the United States because they can't wait online for a

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Speaker 3: country where the bureaucrats tell them how many MRIs are

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Speaker 3: in the budget and there's not enough. So you know,

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Speaker 3: that's what the Democrats are trying to put us into.

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Speaker 3: They want they want this, They want to control your

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Speaker 3: health care and it would be a huge mistake for

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Speaker 3: Americans to let them do it.

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Speaker 1: John. I listened to Trump's twenty minute speech in the

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Speaker 1: car and when I heard the post analysis, I heard,

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Speaker 1: I heard that people on Fox was saying, all those

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Speaker 1: graphs are really compelling. They were really compelling graphs. They're

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Speaker 1: compelling graphs. Of course I'm in the car, so I

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Speaker 1: didn't see it. I get home, I watch it. Where

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Speaker 1: are the graphs? Where were the graphs? I thought?

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Speaker 3: I know, if you watch it on CBS or you

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Speaker 3: watched it on NBC, you didn't see it and you

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Speaker 3: didn't see the graphs because it proved what he said.

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Speaker 3: And here they are just like they during during COVID.

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Speaker 3: Remember when they had the Hunter Biden laptop in the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty election. I mean, our post election service said

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Speaker 3: thirty six percent of the voters that voter for Biden

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Speaker 3: weren't aware of that issue and they would have changed

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Speaker 3: their votes and Trump would have won.

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Speaker 1: By the way, John Hunter just gave an interview to

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Speaker 1: a podcaster and he's still denying the Hunter Biden laptop story.

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Speaker 1: He said it was inauthentic. We come back. I want

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Speaker 1: to ask you, is there a Republican plan? His Republicans

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Speaker 1: coalesced behind a plan to deal with the extension of

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Speaker 1: the exploration of these Obamacare tax credits triple eight nine

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Speaker 1: seven one s A G is a number of my

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Speaker 1: guess is John McLaughlin, CEO and partner of McLaughlin Associates.

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Speaker 1: Do not leave town, and since we've no place to go,

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Speaker 1: let it no, Let it no, Let it snow. Triple

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Speaker 1: eight nine seven one s A G E. Triple eight

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Speaker 1: nine seven one seven two four three Larry Elders, Salem NewsChannel.

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Speaker 1: My guess is representing Americans for a balanced budget. Go

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Speaker 1: to stophealthcost hikes dot com. That's plural, stophealth cost hikes

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Speaker 1: dot com to get involved. He is CEO and partner

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Speaker 1: of McLaughlin Associates, John McLaughlin. John, is there a Republican plan?

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Speaker 1: Have the Republicans coalesced behind a plan?

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Speaker 3: There's a possibility that it could be because the Republicans

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Speaker 3: they lined up their votes, they passed in the House,

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Speaker 3: it dies in the Senate. But you could do something

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Speaker 3: via reconciliation. And it might include something like healthcare savings

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Speaker 3: accounts where people are given a certain amount of money

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Speaker 3: to buy their own health care. And you mentioned Steve Forbes.

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Speaker 3: It was an idea Steve Forbes had in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: six when he ran for president, where you could get people,

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Speaker 3: you know, they could get five thousand dollars put in

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Speaker 3: a health care savings account. Whatever they spend, they can

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Speaker 3: spend directly on their bills. You would have a health

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Speaker 3: insurance policy to cover catastrophic costs, so they'd be covered

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Speaker 3: in case of real emergencies. But then whatever they don't

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Speaker 3: spend and healthcare that year they could roll over. So

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Speaker 3: it really accrues to people to stay healthy into you know,

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Speaker 3: to plan for their future, and they'd have some savings.

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Speaker 3: But the Republicans they need to they need to decide

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Speaker 3: what they want to put in that plan and probably

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Speaker 3: try to force it through the reconciliation. Back in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 3: after the Republican plan to to to revise and improve

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Speaker 3: Obamacare failed, UH, I spoke with President Trump. I said,

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Speaker 3: why did you do healthcare before the tax cuts. You

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Speaker 3: need the tax cuts to grow the economy to get

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Speaker 3: Congress re elected in the midterms. And uh, this time around,

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Speaker 3: he took my advice, and I said, get the tax

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Speaker 3: cuts passed first. They'll have a growing economy. It will

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Speaker 3: enable you to enable you to uh, you know, deal

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Speaker 3: with the tougher solutions to healthcare. And that's that's what

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Speaker 3: he could do this year. Back then he had Mitch

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Speaker 3: McConnell and Paul Ryan advising him, No, we need the

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Speaker 3: savings to UH to give the tax cuts. I mean

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Speaker 3: you don't get any savings from care. I mean for

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Speaker 3: the government. I mean you get savings when you get

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Speaker 3: tax cuts passed. So we don't have the growing economy.

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Speaker 3: And and he can he can force Congress to basically

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Speaker 3: do a better plan so that you could have more

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Speaker 3: summer control, you could have more benefits. Working class people

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Speaker 3: could get good healthcare that they can control. And you

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Speaker 3: could stop the government from trying to take over our healthcare.

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Speaker 3: And that's what a lot of the extreme parts of

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Speaker 3: the Democrat Party wanted to do. They basically want to

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Speaker 3: take over the healthcare system, which would be a disaster

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Speaker 3: for a lot of people here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought health Naving's accounts, promoted by people like

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Speaker 1: Steve Forrest, made all the sense in the world. It

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Speaker 1: hasn't happened after Obamacare got past. John a Republican said

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Speaker 1: for a few election cycles, anyway, we're going to repeal

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Speaker 1: and replace Obamacare. They don't say that anymore.

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Speaker 3: No, Well, that's because it went down in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 3: and the other the key part of that having polled

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Speaker 3: years ago for Republican leadership. It wasn't to repeal Obamacare

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Speaker 3: because some people got used to it and they're afraid.

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Speaker 3: The Democrats scare you repeal it. But the idea was

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Speaker 3: to replace it, to improve it. And and Obamacare was

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Speaker 3: passed years ago. It needs to be updated. It needs

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Speaker 3: to be we know what the flaws are. The insurance

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Speaker 3: companies make money. It costs consumers in the government more money.

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Speaker 3: We need to, you know, do things where the consumers

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Speaker 3: have more control and even the government has some control

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Speaker 3: over what they're spending on Medicare, et cetera. And allow

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Speaker 3: people with their doctors to decide what they need for

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Speaker 3: their health care, not what the government's going to tell

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Speaker 3: them what they need.

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Speaker 1: And that you know.

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Speaker 3: So, so I think we have time now, and the

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Speaker 3: Democrats may force a crisis because what they want to

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Speaker 3: do is shut down the government position for the November

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Speaker 3: elections because they are fired up about the midterms. But

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Speaker 3: this could backfire and it could get the Trump voters that,

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Speaker 3: in effect, the seventy seven million people that voted for

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump for president where he won the popular vote,

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Speaker 3: they should get fired up about this because if it's

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Speaker 3: not if it doesn't affect them directly with their health care,

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Speaker 3: it certainly will affect them through taxes and through you know,

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Speaker 3: the costs that they're paying for right now. So I think,

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Speaker 3: I think there's there's got to be a real debate

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Speaker 3: over this and real, you know, real education in the

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Speaker 3: public about what's at stake, because if you tell them

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Speaker 3: that the government's gonna, you know, your healthcare system will collapse.

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Speaker 1: And whether it's.

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Speaker 3: A King Jeffries or Chuck Schumer, Chuck, I don't want

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Speaker 3: Chuck Shubert to be my doctor. I mean that would

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Speaker 3: bed that would be bad.

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Speaker 1: Well, John, this whole thing has just been fascinating to me.

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Speaker 1: The promises that were made been the cost curved down,

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Speaker 1: say the average family twenty five hundred dollars a year

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Speaker 1: in premiums, make things more accessible when things have gotten

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Speaker 1: less accessible, cut down visits to emergency rooms, when visit

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Speaker 1: to emergency rooms increase, copays have increased, deductibles have increased.

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Speaker 1: Yet Obamacare has gotten more and more popular. And now

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Speaker 1: you're having people like Rocanna here in California, John, where

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Speaker 1: I am who says Medicare for all, As you pointed out,

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Speaker 1: Berniey Sanders, calls it the public option, a single pair,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of different euphemisms for it, but bottom line,

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Speaker 1: their ultimate goal is to have complete federal government takeover

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Speaker 1: of health.

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Speaker 3: Care a disaster. And you got a point about all

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Speaker 3: bounce care. You know, it's not really more popular and

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Speaker 3: people aren't satisfied with their healthcare system. A lot of

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Speaker 3: these posters that are asking that, they'll ask, you know,

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Speaker 3: they'll ask you in a way that okay, do you

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Speaker 3: approve or disapprove of it or whatever, And you know,

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Speaker 3: people want their own health insurance. They want to make

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Speaker 3: their own decisions. And when you ask them does it

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Speaker 3: need to be improved? Does it need to be you know,

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Speaker 3: would you make changes to it?

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Speaker 1: They would?

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Speaker 3: Do you want transparency? Nine out of ten voters want

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Speaker 3: to know when they go for a healthcare service or

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Speaker 3: go see a doctor, go into the hospital. They want

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Speaker 3: to know what the costs are going to be. And

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Speaker 3: they don't want to see some bill that you know,

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Speaker 3: where they're left with whatever the insurance company doesn't cover.

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Speaker 3: And certainly they don't want to pay a huge tax

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Speaker 3: bill to be able to have health insurance. That is

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Speaker 3: it means you know, they'll they'll have to wait for

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Speaker 3: a doctor, they'll have to wait for hospitals, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it just costs them more money and they'll get less service.

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Speaker 3: So I think we need to go back and re

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Speaker 3: enter that debate and uh and I think Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: can you know, help help force the Congress to make

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Speaker 3: a deal, and he'll probably he may have to have

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Speaker 3: all Republicans line up like he did on a tax

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Speaker 3: bill where they force a good healthcare reform because the

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Speaker 3: other part is these healthcare tax credits, which the vast

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Speaker 3: majority of people support even though they don't benefit from it.

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Speaker 3: They support it for working class uh people. They want

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Speaker 3: it to be needs based. They want it to be

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Speaker 3: based on the income that they don't want to have

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Speaker 3: to have. You don't want to have insurance companies with

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Speaker 3: an unlimited uh blank check from the government to cover people.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, you don't want to have

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Speaker 3: people uh to go without an insurance and peace of mind.

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Speaker 1: The website is Stophealthcost Hikes dot com. Stop Health Cost

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Speaker 1: Hikeness Plural dot com. When I come back, John, I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you what is your prediction for the midterms?

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Speaker 1: Larry Older, John Todafflin, No, let us know, Oh, Triple

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Speaker 1: eight Nights seven months, seven two four to three, Triple

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Speaker 1: eight Night seven one seven, two four three Larry Elder,

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Speaker 1: Salem News Channel. The website is Stophealthcost Hikes dot com.

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Speaker 1: My guest if representing Americans for a balanced budget. He

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Speaker 1: is the esteemed poster John McLaughlin. John, give me your

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Speaker 1: prediction for the midterms.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think we can defy history again. I mean

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Speaker 3: I've done pulling for a long period of time, and

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Speaker 3: back in two thousand, I did work for Jim Gilmore,

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Speaker 3: was the chairman of the Republican National Committee, did work

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Speaker 3: for Speaker then Speaker Hastert, and also for Tom Davis

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Speaker 3: who was chair of the National Republican Congressional Committee. And

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Speaker 3: people forget that we work to get Bush voters. If

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Speaker 3: you voted for George Bush in two thousand, we worked

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Speaker 3: to get them back out in two thousand and two,

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Speaker 3: and we picked up eight House seats in two Senate seats,

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Speaker 3: expanded our majorities, and if the Trump voters were to

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Speaker 3: come back out at the levels that they should come

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Speaker 3: back out in the upcoming election in November ten and

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Speaker 3: a half months, for now, we could do the same

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Speaker 3: thing again where we could expand our House majority, and

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Speaker 3: we could keep our Senate majority. And we have a

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Speaker 3: brand new poll that we posted today at McLaughlan online

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Speaker 3: dot com of a thousand likely voters nationally across the country,

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Speaker 3: modeled after the last national election, and the Republicans are

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Speaker 3: trailing by a point forty five forty six. So it's

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Speaker 3: extremely close. Right now. President Trump has a fifty percent

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Speaker 3: job approval, only forty seven percent disapprove, and so it's

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Speaker 3: a lot better than those polls who pull adults or

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Speaker 3: registered voters that don't vote. Some of them might be

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Speaker 3: pulling illegal immigrants for.

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Speaker 11: All I know.

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Speaker 3: But when you look at the actual voters as we

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Speaker 3: did in the president as in the president campaign in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, it's very competitive right now. But it

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Speaker 3: really depends upon those Trump voters coming back out.

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Speaker 1: I think it comes down to the economy. It's still

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Speaker 1: the economy stupid. And today the numbers came out four

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Speaker 1: point three percent GDP growth the last quarter, Are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? And this is before the benefits of the

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Speaker 1: big beautiful bill kick in. It is before the no

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Speaker 1: tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on

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Speaker 1: Social Security and expensing expenditures, for small businesses. None of

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Speaker 1: that stuff has even kicked in yet. So my prediction, John,

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Speaker 1: is down the road next couple of quarters. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be gangbusters.

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Speaker 3: Right. And by the way, in that poll that we

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Speaker 3: posted today, if the voters know those facts, they would

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Speaker 3: say the economy is getting better sixty one to thirty three.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: The problem is forty three percent that pay attention to

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Speaker 3: left wing media sources, they don't think the economy is

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Speaker 3: getting better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same gas prices, John, haven't been this

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Speaker 1: low in four years. New Pole just came out the

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Speaker 1: majority of Americans believe gas prices are going up.

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Speaker 3: Hello, well you're in California.

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Speaker 1: I'm in New York. This same difference. They cancel each

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Speaker 1: other out. My guess has been John McLoughlin again, Stop

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Speaker 1: health costs hikes dot com. Stop healthcost hikes dot Com. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's the he's representing Americans for a balanced budget. John,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I hope you're right about the midterms.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's talk more down the road.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Larry and Merry Christmas. Have a happy New

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Speaker 3: Year and all your listeners.

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Speaker 1: And do you as well. Thanks John, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Couplessy Christmas, So let's get her teaed up.

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Speaker 1: Triple e nineve one seven two four three, triple eight

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Speaker 1: ninety seven one s A. G. E. Larry Elder, Salem

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Speaker 1: News Channel. So many of you want to weigh in

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Speaker 1: on Hunter Biden denying that the laptop story was real.

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Speaker 1: Santino wants to talk about that. Santino, don't go away.

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Speaker 1: And Darla wants to talk about the ACA, the so

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Speaker 1: called Affordable Care Act, and about one of the principal

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Speaker 1: authors said about how he was able to get it past.

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Speaker 1: So Santino, Darla and the others please stick around a

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Speaker 1: few things. First, let me just get back briefly to

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden claiming with a straight face that the laptop

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Speaker 1: story was fake. Was false Number twenty six.

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Speaker 9: So what I can tell you about the laptop that

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Speaker 9: is that there is no laptop. That's both what was

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Speaker 9: provided out there.

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Speaker 5: What the there was no laptop.

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Speaker 9: There is an actual physical laptop that somebody had. But

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Speaker 9: the guy that said he had the laptop, the existence

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Speaker 9: of the search for the laptop came before he was

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Speaker 9: even a twinkle in Rigiliani's eye. There were people took

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Speaker 9: a led partners, Partners literally went to Ukraine to get

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Speaker 9: a laptop from Dmitri Fertash to get a hard drive

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Speaker 9: Hunter Biden's hard drive from Dmitri Fertash and Andre Dircash

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Speaker 9: in Ukraine. In Austria four months before John Paul mcgiaac ever,

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Speaker 9: even nobody ever existed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do this again. John Paul mc isaac is

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Speaker 1: a computer repair shop owner in Wilmington, Delaware, received a

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Speaker 1: damaged laptop from Hunter was asked to recover the data

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Speaker 1: on the hard drive. Because of the material on the

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Speaker 1: hard drive, Isaac contacts the FBI meets with agents in

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Speaker 1: late twenty nineteen. No official investigation was made before the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty presidential election. Probably never would have happened at

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Speaker 1: all had the computer repair shop owner not made a

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Speaker 1: copy of it, and somehow that copy ends up in

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Speaker 1: the hands of Rudy Giuliani. Otherwise, it is very likely

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Speaker 1: that the FBI would have sat on it. We probably

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Speaker 1: never would have known about it at all. Then fifty

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Speaker 1: one former intelligence officials write a letter claiming that the

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop story had all the hallmarks of classic

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Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. They were careful not to say it was false.

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Speaker 1: They worded it so that in the event that it

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Speaker 1: was authentic, and I think several of them already knew it,

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Speaker 1: they'd say, we just said it has all the hallmarks.

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Speaker 1: We didn't say it was false. Lindsey Graham sent a

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Speaker 1: letter to those who signed it in November twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: so roughly a year ago, and said, in your letter,

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Speaker 1: you said that the Russians were trying to influence how

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Speaker 1: Americans vote. Quote. I asked you to respond publicly to

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Speaker 1: one simple question, Lindsey Graham wrote, if you knew then

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Speaker 1: what you know now about the laptop, would you have

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Speaker 1: signed the October nineteen, twenty twenty letter close quote far

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Speaker 1: as I know, nobody responded. New York Times May twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three quote. Officials who cast doubt one Hunter Biden

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Speaker 1: laptop faces questions face questions, and the New York Times

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Speaker 1: said no evidence has emerged to confirm the assertion that

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Speaker 1: the laptop contained Russian disinformation. Quote no concrete evidence has

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Speaker 1: emerged to confirm the assertion that the laptop contained Russian

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Speaker 1: disinformation close quote. So you had the New York Times

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Speaker 1: confirming that the Hunter by the laptop was authentic. You

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Speaker 1: have this letter that was sent to the fifty one

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Speaker 1: people that signed it. Would you have signed it then,

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Speaker 1: knowing what you know? Now? Nobody responds, And this guy

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Speaker 1: goes on a podcast. By the way, he's on there

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Speaker 1: for five hours. No, I didn't watch all five hours

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Speaker 1: and deny that the laptop was authentic, and there's no pushback.

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Speaker 1: God didn't say a word. That's just jaw dropping. Now

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Speaker 1: do you remember this. She's a Kentucky State Democrat lawmaker.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Sarah Stalker, number ten.

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Speaker 8: I think we're missing an incredible opportunity right now. I'm

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Speaker 8: going to be honest. I don't feel good about being

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Speaker 8: white every day for a lot of reasons, because it's

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Speaker 8: a point of privilege that I get to move through

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Speaker 8: the world in a way that so many of my

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Speaker 8: other colleagues and friends and family members of the community

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Speaker 8: don't get the privilege to do. And I'm just a female,

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Speaker 8: but just a woman, just a white woman. If I

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Speaker 8: was a white man, I would be functioning from a

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Speaker 8: point of even greater privilege. I think we're missing an

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Speaker 8: opportunity when kids, when kids have a moment to reflect

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Speaker 8: about how the color of their skin does and does

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Speaker 8: not allow them to move through the world. It's running

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Speaker 8: to them and trying to stifle that and trying to

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Speaker 8: say you shouldn't feel bad. So we don't want to

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Speaker 8: We don't want to ever expose you to something that

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Speaker 8: is going to make you have to pause and have

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Speaker 8: maybe some internal feelings. It's a missed opportunity for some

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Speaker 8: really good dialogue. It's not about making people feel bad

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Speaker 8: about being white. I think it's about acknowledging the historical

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Speaker 8: privilege that white people have always had in this country,

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Speaker 8: which I don't know that anybody in this room in

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Speaker 8: good conscience could argue exist and still exist.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Jd Vance had a somewhat different perspective. Number nine.

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Speaker 15: Unlike the left, we stand against treating anybody and I

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Speaker 15: love what Nikki said about this. We don't treat anybody

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Speaker 15: different because of their race or their sex. So we

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Speaker 15: have relegated DEI to the dust ben of history, which

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Speaker 15: is exactly where it belongs. In the United States of America.

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Speaker 15: You don't have to apologize for being white anymore, and

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Speaker 15: if you're an Asian, you don't have to talk around

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Speaker 15: judge people based on who they are not on ethnicity

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Speaker 15: and things they can't control. We don't persecute you for

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Speaker 15: being male, for being straight, for being gay, for being anything.

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Speaker 15: The only thing that we demand is that you be

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Speaker 15: a great American patriot. And if you're very much on

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Speaker 1: As to the assertion that you don't need to apologize

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Speaker 1: for being white anymore, Governor Tim Wallace, different perspective. Number thirty.

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Speaker 16: So, this is what happens when your own federal government

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Speaker 16: wages war against you. This is what happens when they

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Speaker 16: target communities for their own benefit. This is what happens

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Speaker 16: when they scapegoat, And this is what say happens when

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Speaker 16: they no longer hide the idea of white supremacy. When

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Speaker 16: you hear the Vice President of the United States talk

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Speaker 16: about now white people won't have to apologize for being white.

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Speaker 16: That's never happened once in my whole damn life. And

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Speaker 16: I think everybody in this room knows what they're doing.

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Speaker 16: So we're here today to say enough of this. We're

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Speaker 16: here today to stand that Minnesota will protect their neighbors.

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Speaker 1: It's never happened once in my life that a white

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Speaker 1: person apologize for being white. Really, Number ten, I think.

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Speaker 8: We're missing an incredible opportunity right now. I'm going to

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Speaker 8: be honest, I don't feel good about being white every

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Speaker 8: day for a lot of reasons. Because it's a point

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Speaker 8: of privilege that I get to move through the world

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Speaker 8: in a way that so many of my other colleagues

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Speaker 8: and friends and family members of the community don't get

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Speaker 8: the privilege to do. And I'm just a female, but

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Speaker 8: just a woman, just a white woman. If I was

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Speaker 8: a white man, I would be functioning from a point

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Speaker 8: of even greater privilege. I think we're missing an opportunity

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Speaker 8: when kids, When kids have a moment to reflect about

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Speaker 8: how the color of their skin does and does not

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Speaker 8: allow them to move through the world, it's running running

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Speaker 8: to them and trying to stifle that and trying to

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Speaker 8: say you shouldn't feel bad. So we don't want to

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Speaker 8: we don't want to ever expose you to something that

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Speaker 8: is going to make you have to pause and have

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Speaker 8: maybe some internal feelings. It's a missed opportunity for some

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Speaker 8: really good dialogue. It's not about making people feel bad

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Speaker 8: about being white. I think it's about acknowledging the historical

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Speaker 8: privilege that white people have always had in this country.

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Speaker 8: Which I don't know that anybody in this room in

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Speaker 8: good conscience could argue exist and still exist.

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Speaker 1: I've said before, I say again, whoever said that compound

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Speaker 1: interest was the greatest force in the universe never encountered?

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Speaker 1: White Guild Triple eight nine seven one seven two forty

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Speaker 1: three on Larryolder Triple eight ninety seven one Sage Triple

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Speaker 1: eight ninety seven, one seven two four to three, Larry

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Speaker 1: Elder Salem News Channel on behalf of our entire team

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Speaker 1: and me. I want you to know that we are

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Speaker 1: so blessed that you've been such a big part of

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Speaker 1: our success as we presented the Larryolda show throughout this year.

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Speaker 1: Because of your generosity and that of other caring friends

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Speaker 1: who've gone to my website Larryelder dot com and clicked

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Speaker 1: on that angel Tree banner at the very top, many

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Speaker 1: deserving boys and girls will experience the joy of an

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Speaker 1: angel tree Christmas with a Christmas gift, a personal note

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Speaker 1: from his or her parent in prison, and the good

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Speaker 1: news of Jesus. This year. Christmas is now just two

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Speaker 1: days away. If you still feel led, please consider giving

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Speaker 1: to reach even more children of prisoners. You'll bring the

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Speaker 1: joy of Christmas to more boys and girls who, through

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Speaker 1: no fault of their own, may be feeling especially lonely.

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Speaker 1: This week, listen to George Carter from Prison Fellowship.

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Speaker 4: It's so important that the community gets involved in something

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Speaker 4: like this because these kids, you know, they're the innocent ones.

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Speaker 4: They're not the ones that committed crimes. It was their parents,

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Speaker 4: and so they already feel just pain, you know, the

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Speaker 4: loss of a parent that's not there, and to be

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Speaker 4: connected with someone who represents their parent really means a lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it means the world to these kids.

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Speaker 1: Won't you please do your part? My website again Larryelder

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Speaker 1: dot com. When you click on the Angel Tree banner,

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Speaker 1: your generous gift today will help really make Christmas special.

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Speaker 1: Or you can phone your gift to eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: two O six twenty eight fifty five. That's eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight two O six twenty eight fifty five. Remember you

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Speaker 1: can literally change a child's life for just thirty dollars

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Speaker 1: eight eight eight two O six twenty eight fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight two O six twenty eight fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Or go to my website Larryelder dot com and click

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Speaker 1: on the Indo Tree banner. At the very top. Tim

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Speaker 1: Walls said that I don't know anybody who apologized for

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Speaker 1: being white, except maybe Tim Walls.

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Speaker 17: If we pat ourselves on the back sometimes that we

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Speaker 17: acknowledge we have the worst racial disparities. I understand that

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Speaker 17: the privilege I've been given as a white man, and

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Speaker 17: the privilege of setting in the office of governor, that

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Speaker 17: privilege had better be used to not just talk about

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Speaker 17: the problem, but to solve the problem.

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Speaker 1: Same guy who says he doesn't know any white guy

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Speaker 1: who's apologizing. Santino, Columbia, South Carolina. Santino, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for calling. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 10: Hello, Larry, I wanted to talk about Monter Biden, but

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Speaker 10: I just wanted to mention night.

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Speaker 11: Last night, I saw.

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Speaker 10: The sixty minutes piece that was cut out, and I

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Speaker 10: felt so proud to know that we sent so many innocent.

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Speaker 1: How did you How did you see the How did

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Speaker 1: you see the piece? Santino? He's He's invented, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: It's Santina. I was a different one. Darla is in Columbus, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: Darlia and the Larry Oda Show.

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Speaker 6: Hi, Larry, I went to see you with a friend

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Speaker 6: when you were in Plaine City at Dirt Dutchman, Ohio.

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Speaker 6: I think it was maybe six six or so months ago,

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Speaker 6: and it was a wonderful evening. Thank you so much

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Speaker 6: for all you do and your staff. I wanted to

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Speaker 6: mention about the Affordable Care Act. Do you remember the

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Speaker 6: gentleman Jonathan Gruber worked on that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, he's probably He's probably the father of of Obamacare,

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Speaker 1: as he was the father of Rodney Caare.

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Speaker 18: Yes.

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Speaker 6: So I I wonder why people don't bring that up,

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Speaker 6: because he actually is on tape somewhere saying that after

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Speaker 6: after it was approved and created. They were interviewing him,

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Speaker 6: and I think they paid him millions of dollars, but

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Speaker 6: he actually says, and he had a smile on his face,

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Speaker 6: the American people are so stupid, And I thought grating

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Speaker 6: that was for us to hear, and the deception just

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Speaker 6: I guess I just get from.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he was at he was at some sort

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Speaker 1: of seminar. Mister mcconnoch, can we find that John the

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Speaker 1: glomer said we designed Obamacare to be complicated to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of the stupidity of the American people. Can you

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Speaker 1: find that? Yeah? Okay, let's hear it.

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Speaker 14: Lack of transparency, huge political advantage and basically, you know,

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Speaker 14: called the stupid of the American voter or whatever, but

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Speaker 14: basically that was really really critical to get anything to pass.

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Speaker 14: And you know, it's the second best argument. Look, I

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Speaker 14: wish Mark was right, we can make it all transparent,

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Speaker 14: but I'd rather have this law than not. So it's

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Speaker 14: kind of like his reporter story. You know, yeah, there's

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Speaker 14: things I wish it could change, but I'd rather.

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Speaker 1: Have this law. We took advantage of the stupidity of

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Speaker 1: the American people. By the way, he also said at

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Speaker 1: another forum, I never said that Obamacare was going to

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Speaker 1: save money. It's going to cost a lot of money

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Speaker 1: to ensure more people. Other people may have said it,

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Speaker 1: I never said it. And the big selling point of

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Speaker 1: Obamacare is going to bend the cost curve down. Here

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Speaker 1: you have the architect, the principal architect of Obamacare telling

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Speaker 1: you I never said it's going to save money. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to save money. It's going to cost money.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats have a huge, huge, anti Semitism problem. Here's

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Speaker 1: what John Fetterman, the only Democrat in my opinion, Democrat

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Speaker 1: who's standing up number five.

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Speaker 19: Mainstream outlets like The New York Times is constantly accountsilgate

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Speaker 19: a strong anti Israel views on those things, and other

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Speaker 19: media as well to call it what it is. And

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Speaker 19: now here in my own party, I've been incredibly disappointed,

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Speaker 19: you know, and people are trying to pretend these kinds

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Speaker 19: of words in terms like, you know, from the river

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Speaker 19: to the sea, or to globalize the infatada and all

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Speaker 19: those other things. We all know what this means, and

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Speaker 19: I refuse to pander to that. And now for for me,

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Speaker 19: it's been a rot, you know, within the American left

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Speaker 19: and within my party.

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Speaker 1: It's been a rot in the American left and within

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Speaker 1: my party. In Bill Moore also talked about these pro

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Speaker 1: Palestine protesters the oppression of women in the Muslim world.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Number eighteen?

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Speaker 20: You can't platform someone that you disagree with. Last week,

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Speaker 20: sitting here was an experian and you guys had a

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Speaker 20: really I got around. Yeah, and her co host Chenk

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Speaker 20: he's also on the Young Turks, tweeted, I think Bill

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Speaker 20: Maher is the biggest racist in American media. I'm happy

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Speaker 20: to challenge him to a debate on the issue of

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Speaker 20: his favorite country in the world. His beloved Israel. How

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Speaker 20: do you respond to that. I'm assume you didn't even

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Speaker 20: Why doesn't.

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Speaker 21: He answer the question that she won't answer, or that

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Speaker 21: she didn't until finally she had to give in and say, yes,

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Speaker 21: I would live in Tel Aviv.

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Speaker 20: Would you challenge?

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Speaker 14: Would you guess what?

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Speaker 21: I'd love to hear his answer, because there is no answer.

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Speaker 21: Anybody who thinks they're a social justice justice activist, which

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Speaker 21: these people do, and your number one issue isn't gender

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Speaker 21: apartheid in the Muslim world, You're a joke. You're a joke.

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Speaker 21: It's so obvious where the biggest amount of oppress is

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Speaker 21: you people who hate oppression so much. I saw the

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Speaker 21: New York Post reprinted like the whole thing, and they

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Speaker 21: showed you know, of course they have pictures. I don't

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Speaker 21: have pictures here, but you know they show pigures of

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Speaker 21: women in the full covered, you know, the burke of head.

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Speaker 21: I saw the front page of the New York Times

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Speaker 21: yesterday was something about Syria. Maybe it was their one

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Speaker 21: year anniversary or something something, and there's this is Syria,

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Speaker 21: which I you know, kind of thinking, well, it's not

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Speaker 21: a Afghanistan, it's not Saudi write well, it's Syria, you know,

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Speaker 21: it was the leader of the Muslim world at some point.

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Speaker 21: And but there's the women and they were in the

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Speaker 21: full you know, like I'm not even the islet.

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Speaker 20: Just they can't see the full.

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Speaker 21: Black fumigation tent. If you're okay with keeping women in

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Speaker 21: beekeeper suits, you know, including a one hundred degree weather

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Speaker 21: and this is just something that just.

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Speaker 1: Triple eight nineteenth one sage, triple ate nacom one s

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Speaker 1: A g E triple eight nine seven one seven two

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Speaker 1: four to three. Larry Elder, Salem News Channel. Cindy is

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Speaker 1: in Ipsilanti, Michigan. Cindy, you're in the Larry Old Show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling.

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Speaker 11: Hi, Larry.

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Speaker 16: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am well? How are you?

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Speaker 18: I am doing very well. I just wanted to call

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Speaker 18: and say how much I appreciate your show and appreciate

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Speaker 18: you and all that you do for children and underprivileged.

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Speaker 18: That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well, Cindy, thank you so much for the call. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Speaking of children, this is a Somali girl

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01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:54,480
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. And as to the claim that certain Somalis

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01:34:55,760 --> 01:34:59,560
Speaker 1: who might be here illegally should be deported, here's what

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01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 1: she said, number seventeen.

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01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 22: Support everyone because like people deserve to be here, because

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01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 22: we should be illegal when this is literally like stolen When.

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01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,759
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be illegal, when this is really like stolen land.

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01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 1: I wonder where she heard that. Let's hear it again.

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01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:31,720
Speaker 22: Support everyone and because like people deserve to be here,

1508
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,720
Speaker 22: because we should be illegal when this is literally like.

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01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 3: Stolen When.

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01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 1: People deserve to be here, We shouldn't be illegal because

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01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 1: this is stolen land. This is a Wall Street Journal

1512
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 1: reporter Tim Wallas's essentially is saying that Trump has sensationalizing

1513
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: the Minnesota fraud situation and essentially he had nothing to

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01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: do with it. Number twenty two.

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01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think the governor has at times suggested that

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01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,400
Speaker 23: he would have done more, wanted to do more, but

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01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 23: his hands were tied in some way. At one point

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01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 23: he claimed with one of the frauds that a court

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01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 23: order prevented him from doing more to stop and the

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01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 23: judge in the issue in the case disputed his account. Now,

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01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 23: I think his latest thing is to suggest that until

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01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 23: the legislature gave him new authorities this summer, he really

1523
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 23: couldn't stop the money flowing out to the fraudsters. It's

1524
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 23: all pretty tough to.

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01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 21: Buy.

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01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Josh is in Butler, Pennsylvania. Josh and the larial the show.

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01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 11: Thank you for calling, Larry, are you sir?

1528
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 10: I'm well, I'm just wondering what we're going to do

1529
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 10: with this smugg invasion going on our country kind of worrisome.

1530
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:06,240
Speaker 10: I live in a blue state, but I know there's

1531
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:08,880
Speaker 10: plenty of gun tot and Rednecks cider and ain't going

1532
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:09,840
Speaker 10: to put up with that crop.

1533
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's an issue. That's why we had Robert

1534
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,559
Speaker 1: Spener on to talk about it for a whole hour.

1535
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: It is a huge, huge issue. And look, the religion

1536
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,679
Speaker 1: basically says if you're not a Muslim, you have three options.

1537
01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: You can convert, you can pay a tax as a

1538
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,120
Speaker 1: second class citizen, or you can be killed. Pick one.

1539
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: And we're not We're not and we're not having a

1540
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:37,720
Speaker 1: candid conversation about this. And I ask Robert Spincher what

1541
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 1: could be done about this? And he said what could

1542
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 1: be done about it is for people aid to recognize

1543
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 1: what I just now said, uh, and for Muslims to

1544
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 1: denounce the idea that if you are not a Muslim

1545
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 1: you should be killed, you should be forcibly made to

1546
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 1: convert to our religion, and that world domination is not

1547
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 1: something that we pursue. The The problem is the Quran

1548
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:06,080
Speaker 1: is said to be the word of God, the literal

1549
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: word of God. That Muhammad was illiterate, could neither read

1550
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 1: nor write, but somehow he wrote the Quran because God

1551
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:17,759
Speaker 1: used him as a messenger. So if God wrote the Qoran,

1552
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 1: every word in the Quran is to be taken literally,

1553
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: cannot be altered, cannot be changed, cannot be reformed. That's

1554
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 1: a problem. And the other problem, as I discussed with

1555
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 1: Robert Spencer, is that there is a word I think

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01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 1: it's called takia, might be mispronouncing it in the Islamic

1557
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: religion that allows you to lie to advance your cause.

1558
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: So even if people were to stand up and denounce

1559
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: certain passages in the Quran as inconsistent with living in

1560
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 1: a constitutional republic, are they telling the truth? How do

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01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: you vet them? It is a huge, huge problem, particularly

1562
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: when people like Chuck Schumer, who for years have said

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01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 1: that boycott, defeestiture sanctioned movement against Israel is anti Semitic,

1564
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:09,240
Speaker 1: something that Zoron mom Dammi embraces, something that democrats Socialists

1565
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:13,559
Speaker 1: embrace on their party platform, and yet Chuck Schumer has

1566
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 1: not called zoron mom Domi anti semitic, has not called

1567
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 1: his embrace of BDS anti semitic. And here in LA,

1568
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,400
Speaker 1: every single member of city Council is a Democrat except

1569
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 1: for three or four who are also members of the

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01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:32,120
Speaker 1: Democrat Socialists of America. Again, their platform supports BDS, which

1571
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,759
Speaker 1: the Anti Defamation League calls anti semitic. It's a problem.

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01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 1: I'm Larry Older ding that's the Dingo triple eight nine

1573
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: seven two four to three triple eight nine seven one

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01:39:47,640 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 1: s a ge Larry Elders. Salem News Channel received a

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01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 1: letter from someone who said, last year, I read the

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01:39:56,120 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: book that you wrote about your father. She said, I

1577
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: think it is almost must reading for people who have

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01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: issues with their own father. The book is called Dear Father,

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01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: Dear Son, Two Lives Eight Hours about my eight hour

1580
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: conversation I had with my father, not having spoken to

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01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 1: him for almost ten years in the time I was

1582
01:40:17,680 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 1: fifteen years old until I was twenty five years old,

1583
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: when I sat down and had what I thought was

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01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 1: gonna be a five minute conversation, which ended up being

1585
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 1: an eight hour conversation. The hard covers called Dear Father,

1586
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Dear Son, Two Lives, eight Hours. The soft cover is

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01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 1: called A Lot Like Me, same book, just different title.

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01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: And they've received hundreds of reviews, well over four hundred

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01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: reviews last time I checked, and it's almost as if

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01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 1: I wrote these reviews myself. I did not. These are

1591
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:57,799
Speaker 1: reader reviews. I consider this to be a perfect stocking stuffer.

1592
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:01,400
Speaker 1: It's not too late. Here are just a few of

1593
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 1: the reader reviews. This book is incredibly insightful and moving. Loved, loved,

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01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 1: loved this book. I've read it several times, and each

1595
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: time I get something else out of it. A great

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01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: gift from a truly extraordinary human being. Do yourself a

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01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 1: favor and buy several copies, one to keep and the

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01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: rest to give away. It's awesome. End of quote. Impressed.

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01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 1: This book was incredibly well written. I enjoyed every second

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01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 1: of it, the angst and the glory. I was impressed

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01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: at the dire circumstances in which a father and son

1602
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 1: relationship being out the worst in two human beings involved,

1603
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,719
Speaker 1: and then perhaps the best of these two human beings.

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01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: End of quote. Nothing but love for this book. I

1605
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 1: can relate to this book on so many different levels.

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01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 1: The end had me bawling, but in a really good way.

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01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 1: A great readable forgiveness, reconciliation, love, and coming to understand

1608
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: someone who are the way they are because of each

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01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:12,679
Speaker 1: step of life they've gone through. End of quote. Great read,

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01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: very good, inspiring book. It helped me self reflect as

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01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,560
Speaker 1: a young man. I can relate to this in so

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01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: many ways. End of quote. Will tear you apart. The

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01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 1: language is almost enough to make me close the book

1614
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: and miss this wonderful story. I should interject here there

1615
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 1: is some coarse language. That's the way we used to

1616
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 1: speak back to the review. The language was almost enough

1617
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: to make me close the book and miss this wonderful story.

1618
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Cried more time than I want to admit. Thankful for

1619
01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 1: all the goodness of God in my life and the

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01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 1: time I have left with my family. Never take any

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01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 1: of it for granted. End of quote. Real. I greatly

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01:42:56,080 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: appreciated the author's pursuit of authenticity. It would appear that

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01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:03,600
Speaker 1: he achieved it. I can relate to the author's relationship

1624
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: with his dad. I enjoyed this book immensely. Thank you,

1625
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: mister Elder. End of quote. A memoir that reads like

1626
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: a novel. This was an amazing book. It was raw

1627
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: and well told. I laughed, I cried. End of quote.

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01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Hard work and common sense, honest, hard work and godly

1629
01:43:23,560 --> 01:43:27,599
Speaker 1: values without laziness or sense of entitlement, passed on from

1630
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:30,639
Speaker 1: one generation to another. Thank you, Larry Elder and Dad

1631
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 1: touched my heart deeply. End of quote. Wonderful. Loved hearing

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01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: this read by the author. Couldn't put it down. Should

1633
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 1: be required for all seniors. Great life lesson end of quote.

1634
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:52,000
Speaker 1: Silence is not golden too. Incredibly hard working, honest, determined, loving,

1635
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 1: bull headed husband and wife referring to my mom and

1636
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 1: my dad. Husband and wife spent too many years of

1637
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 1: their lives in marital isolation, denying their true identity as soulmates.

1638
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: Their son cracks open the rock and exposes the jewel.

1639
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:09,479
Speaker 1: End of quote. Very good book. My ninety two year

1640
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 1: old uncle bought me this book. Enjoy end of quote.

1641
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 1: Enjoyed this book, Really liked this very honest book. I

1642
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 1: found myself laughing at some parts because it rang true

1643
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: with some of my own family experiences as a former

1644
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: child welfare worker. I was amazed at how his father

1645
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 1: succeeded in life. I also understand his choices in parenting.

1646
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 1: We do have to know the background of a person

1647
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: to walk a mile in their shoes. It was a

1648
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:42,600
Speaker 1: journey to understanding end of quote, working it out, I

1649
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:46,000
Speaker 1: have come to appreciate mister Elder's wisdom on contemporary issues.

1650
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:48,679
Speaker 1: His talk about his dad intrigued me, and I wanted

1651
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: to know more. I had issues with my father, and

1652
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to compare notes. End of quote. What impressed

1653
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 1: me was both men listened to each other. The son

1654
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 1: refused to play the victim and welcome the chance to

1655
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: learn more about his dad and what motivated him. The

1656
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 1: father did not get defensive and shut his son out.

1657
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 1: If this is how adult interactions should be handled, end

1658
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: of quote, the younger Elder is a product of his upbringing,

1659
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 1: someone whose parents can be proud. No doubt he would

1660
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 1: have appreciated a softer touch. In the end, father and

1661
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,639
Speaker 1: son came together and built the relationship that they should

1662
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,719
Speaker 1: have had all along. An inspirational story. End of quote.

1663
01:45:29,840 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop reading it. This book could be about

1664
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: any one of us. I saw much of my own

1665
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 1: life in it. You don't know what your parents had

1666
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 1: to do just to feed and clothe you until you

1667
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: put down your pride and sit down with them and listen.

1668
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 1: The style was easy to read. You can put yourself

1669
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 1: in it. End of quote. Hate turns to empathy, to

1670
01:45:50,920 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 1: pity to love. When I started reading the book, I

1671
01:45:54,040 --> 01:45:57,360
Speaker 1: loathed Larry's father because in many ways he reminded me

1672
01:45:57,439 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 1: of my own father. Although I did not endure physical pain,

1673
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,600
Speaker 1: there was such a distance between father and son that

1674
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 1: was very similar to Larry's experience. As I read it,

1675
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 1: I felt sorry for Randolph Elder, and finally I felt

1676
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: love for Randolph Elder, who put everything he had into

1677
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:19,880
Speaker 1: making sure his children had all he could provide. Outstanding book,

1678
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 1: I have to say. The first chapters were difficult, troubling

1679
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 1: at times, but well done. This is truly a moving book.

1680
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 1: It reminded me of my own father in so many ways.

1681
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 1: I was very grateful to read it. Wonderful piece of work.

1682
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:34,040
Speaker 1: Thank you Larry for sharing these experiences. End of quote. Now,

1683
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 1: my father died at the age of ninety one, just

1684
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,040
Speaker 1: as a book was published, and while I was writing it,

1685
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 1: I kept asking him questions about this, some questions about that.

1686
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 1: What did you do, what did you say? Where'd you go?

1687
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,360
Speaker 1: Why'd you do this? Why'd you do that? And one

1688
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: time he said to me, why are you writing a

1689
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 1: book about my little life? And I said, no, Dad,

1690
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:58,640
Speaker 1: your life was epic. You just don't know it. I

1691
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:02,639
Speaker 1: wish my father could have read of the reviews. Triple

1692
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 1: eight nine seven one s A g E. It's called

1693
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 1: Dear Father, Dear Son, two Lives eight Hours or a

1694
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 1: Lot Like Me, available on Amazon dot com.

1695
01:47:11,120 --> 01:47:16,760
Speaker 2: Oh have yourself, lady bit Hello.

1696
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 21: Christmas.

1697
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 1: Triple eight nine seven one s A G E. Triple

1698
01:47:37,240 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 1: eight nine seven one seven two four to three. Larryol

1699
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:40,960
Speaker 1: there's seldom news channel. Don't forget to go to my

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01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: website Larryoda dot com. Click on the Angel Tree banner

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01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: at the very top. Debbie is in Wittier, California. Debbie,

1702
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:49,040
Speaker 1: you're in the Lariota Show.

1703
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 5: Thank you for calling, Larry Elder.

1704
01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 6: How are you?

1705
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm great? How are you?

1706
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 5: Merry Christmas? I am well on the Lord, just driving

1707
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 5: through town looking at all the Christmas lights and wanted

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01:48:01,960 --> 01:48:03,480
Speaker 5: to say Merry Christmas.

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01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you two.

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01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 5: Of course, so that person governor of Minnesota, he has

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01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 5: to know he's just causing problems and pitying us against

1712
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,719
Speaker 5: each other, white person against white person, or brown or black.

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01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 5: I don't care, but it's just it's kind of this.

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01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 5: It's disgusting, really, it.

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01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 1: Is disgusting, Debbie. That's what these guys do. That's what

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01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 1: they do, talk about how much privilege they white people have.

1717
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:36,719
Speaker 1: And we, by the way, are the social justice warriors.

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01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: We wear the white hat. These daftedly Republicans over there,

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01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 1: they wear the black hat. That's how they get the

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01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:43,639
Speaker 1: black vote. That's how they get ninety ninety five percent

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01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:45,759
Speaker 1: of the black vote by telling black people that they're victims,

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01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,760
Speaker 1: that racism still remains a major problem in America, and

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01:48:48,800 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: we're the ones fighting on behalf of you. You know,

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01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 1: there are lots of advantages blacks have. It is easier

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01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 1: for a black person compared to a white person with

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01:48:58,960 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: a given SAT score and grade point average to get

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01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 1: into the college or university if he's her choice. When

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01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:11,720
Speaker 1: you consider education the route to the upper middle class

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01:49:11,880 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 1: middle class, you could argue that blacks have an easier

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01:49:14,600 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: time getting into the college or university if he's her choice.

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01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 1: I told you about that big survey done between CNN

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01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,560
Speaker 1: and Time magazine back in nineteen ninety seven. Of teenagers

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01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:30,639
Speaker 1: black and white teenagers, and both of them thought racism

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01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 1: remained a major problem, But eighty nine percent of the

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01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:35,240
Speaker 1: black teenagers called racism a small problem or a no

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01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: problem in my own daily life. In fact, twice as

1737
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 1: many black teenagers compared to white teenagers said failure to

1738
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,719
Speaker 1: take advantage of available opportunities is a bigger problem than racism.

1739
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: Cops are more reluctant, more hesitant to use deadly force

1740
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 1: on the black suspect than a white suspect, and for decades,

1741
01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:58,439
Speaker 1: researchers have found that blacks have higher self esteem than

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01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: do whites. Larry King once told me that his kids

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01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,519
Speaker 1: wished that they were white. Nancy Pelosi once said her

1744
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:15,000
Speaker 1: grandchildren wish that they were brown. So please, somehow, some way,

1745
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: Barack Obama got elected and re elected. Gallup poll found

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01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 1: people were more hesitant to vote for a female, to

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01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 1: vote for a Mormon, then vote for an elderly person

1748
01:50:25,640 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: than for a black person. So can you knock it off?

1749
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: This is America. People in Haiti are lining up for

1750
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 1: a lottery to get into this country. Why because it's

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01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 1: systematically racist. Knock it off. Have a very very merry Christmas. Everybody.

1752
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:42,400
Speaker 1: God Bless Christmas.

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01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,520
Speaker 13: What can I says?

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01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: Michael has been dropped all across America. That's enough. Put

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01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,959
Speaker 1: down the micro, the Larry Elder Show.

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01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 13: So loudoun you here, it's Christmas time and we got

1757
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 13: the spirits.

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01:51:03,560 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 1: Jack, what's chance?

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Speaker 12: Come on your South.

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01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,160
Speaker 1: And that's what Christmas is all about.

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01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 2: The time is now, the place is here, and the

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01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 2: whole wide world is filled.

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Speaker 11: Will