1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: If you feel like something's missing in your recovery, you 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: have Jesus. You're no longer using whatever substance was taking 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: you down in life, but something's missing. Community is what's missing, 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: and being in person is one of the best guests 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: you can give yourself, and that's a big reason why 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: we're doing what we're doing. 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: Welcome to Love Life Sober. I'm your host and your coach, 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: Christy Osborne. This podcast is for the woman who loves 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 3: Jesus or is longing to reconnect with him, and who 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: knows deep down that alcohol is no longer serving her. 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: Here we talk honestly, with grace and truth about how 13 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: stepping away from alcohol opens the door to the love, joy, 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: peace and connection you've been searching for. Because, Babe, those 15 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: things were never meant to be found in a bottle 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: of wine. They're found in Jesus. Through scripture, coaching and neuroscience, 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: I'll help you make sense of your habits, your nervous system, 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 3: and what you're really craving so that freedom feels not 19 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: only possible but sustainable. You don't have to do this alone, Babe, 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: Let's dive in. Hello, my beautiful friend, I am so 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 3: excited for this episode and to announce that I will 22 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: be hosting a conference in September with my friend Sherry Hoppin. 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: We've called it the Aligned Conference, and we have some 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: amazing speakers lined up. We already have a bunch of 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: gals in the love Life Sober community who have signed 26 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: up and bought tickets, and I just wanted to quickly 27 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: introduce you to this episode by letting you know that 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: if you're in the love Life Sober community already, you 29 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: will notice that I added a special space for the 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: Aligned Conference, and the purpose of that space is to 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: get the information about the conference, which you can also 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: find on the website, which we'll link in the show notes. 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: But in that space you'll be able to get excited 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: about the conference together talk about rooming with other gals 35 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: to sort out transportation and carpooling and all that good stuff. So, 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: if you're in the love Life Sober community, there is 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: a special space called Aligned for the Aligned Conference attendees 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 3: where we are going to be getting super excited about 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: the conference. That being said, you do not need to 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 3: be a member of the love Life Sober community to 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: come to this conference, and we are so excited and 42 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: so hoping that so many of you podcast listeners also attend. 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: This is the first ever Christian women's recovery conference of 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 3: its kind, and I am so excited to be hosting 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 3: this with my friend Sherry Hoppin. We are going to have, 46 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: as I said, speakers, testimonies, an incredible bookstore. Everything is 47 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: in a really cute walkable area in Holland, Michigan. So, 48 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 3: without further ado, my chat with Sherry getting excited about 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: this conference. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate 50 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: to reach out. You can always email me, or you 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,119 Speaker 3: can DM me, or if you are in the community, 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: send me a private mess in the community. If you 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 3: have any questions, we are here to help. We are 54 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: so so excited about ALIGNED, and I am hoping to 55 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: see so many of your beautiful faces on September twenty 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: second at the first ever ALIGNED conference. Okay, here's our chat. Hello, 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: my beautiful friend. 58 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: How are you. I'm good, I'm good. It's good to 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: see Sherry Hoppin. 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: How are you? And who are you? And if you 61 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: are a Love Life Sober listener right now, go back 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: and listen to Sherry's episode. It was one of the 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 3: very first recordings that we did on this podcast and 64 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 3: it was so so beautiful and I loved all your 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 3: updates there. But tell the people who you are, and. 66 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, my name is Sherry Happen and I am from 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: West Michigan over here in the US, and I am 68 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: the founder of She Surrenders, which is a faith based 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: women's recovery online support group. I like Christy, have a 70 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: podcast and a private group for support. And I'm an author. 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: I wrote Sober Psycho Peddling My Way through Recovery One 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: Day at a Time that came out about four years ago, 73 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: the first edition and the second edition came out last year, 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: and that chronicles my harrowing journey as a Christian woman 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 2: stuck in addiction and a lot of the crazy, stupid 76 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 2: things I did to try and get out of it. 77 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: And you have to read the book to fully understand 78 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: what happened in my mind, or listen to the episode 79 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: with Christy, and that just really is where God laid 80 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: on my heart. 81 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: You need to tell your story. 82 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: I believe that God always has purpose for your pain. 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 2: I have truly embraced that, sometimes against my will, at 84 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: least in the beginning. I am I'm twelve years into 85 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 2: recovery and also the executive director of Salehouse Recovery here 86 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: in West Michigan, which is a faith based and patient 87 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: recovery home for women. 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: It's a thirty day program. 89 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: You can look it up Salehouse Recovery dot org and 90 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 2: I run that with my daughter in law, who is 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: also in recovery. It's been open about a year and 92 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: I'm just a passion of our family that we are 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: advocating for. There needs to be more about faith based 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: recovery for women in a place. So I'm married, I 95 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 2: have three married kittles, five grandkids who I adore, and 96 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: meeting Christy has been a great connection because we are 97 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 2: on the same page with a lot of things about recovery. 98 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: Christy's been on my podcast as well, and she's going 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: to be again very soon on that She Surrenders podcast. 100 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: Be sure to watch for that too. 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: So you and I met when well I discovered your 102 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 3: amazing ministry, and so we recorded with each other a 103 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: while ago, and then we got to be friends through 104 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 3: our writers group, and we have both discussed so many 105 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 3: times wanting to get in the same room together as we. 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: Find out whenever we're together, Like you just said, I've 107 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: had a couple get togethers with some of my groups 108 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: that the conversation is so good. You find out about 109 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: these quality friendships, that's how aine and recovery, and it 110 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: is so valuable and so good. And there's been this 111 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: huge desire and push for we need to get together more. 112 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: We need to get together more. But we're all over 113 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: the place. 114 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: So I'm originally from Los Angeles but been in the 115 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: UK for almost twenty years. I hosted a very small, 116 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 3: i think if there was ten of us, a retreat 117 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 3: three or four years ago, and it was my first experience, 118 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: even for myself, of being in a room and it 119 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: was it wasn't even Christian, it was a secular. It 120 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: was for a handful of my clients at the time. 121 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: But I just remember, oh my gosh, the conversations and 122 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: the pressure, and for so many of us it was 123 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 3: the first time being away and not having to even 124 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: think about alcohol because we just it was a foregone conclusion. 125 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: We were there to all, you know, be alcohol free. 126 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: And I just got back from that trip so filled up, 127 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: and ever since then have wanted to do it again 128 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: with Christians. 129 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, same here. 130 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: I've had two retreats and the second one with some 131 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: of the same women who are kind of make core people. 132 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: And not just in my group, but also in life. 133 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: There are some of my best friends, and yeah, there's 134 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 2: no one I'd rather be doing life with when it 135 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: comes to this. And I was always afraid of the 136 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: friendship part of it when I quit drinking. 137 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sic. 138 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: The more I watch women discover these new friendships, I'm 139 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: here to tell you there's nothing to be afraid of. 140 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: There's everything to gain here. And I see that at 141 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: Sale House, to the communities that form and these friendships 142 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: that I mean, they're a bond, and we just want 143 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: to we want to help women gather and make that 144 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: opportunity even easier. 145 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. One hundred percent. You just have the 146 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: opportunity when alcohol is out of the way and you 147 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: both love Jesus, that you can know that you're safe 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: right and be open and vulnerable like so quickly, and 149 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: therefore the level of friendships that form, like in your community, 150 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: in my community, I mean, it's just incredible. And so 151 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: we are giving you gals the opportunity to be in 152 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 3: a room together, which is so exciting. 153 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: Going to be amazing, a big room, but we're going 154 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: to give you time to chat and we're going to 155 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: have some mocktails. It's going to be a party. It's 156 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: really fun. Yeah, So do you want to announce. 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: The name of it? 158 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 3: Sure? So we are hosting together the Aligned Conference and 159 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: it's going to be the twenty second to the twenty 160 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 3: fourth of September of this year, twenty twenty six in Holland, Michigan. 161 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: And I'm so excited to come to your stopping ground, babe. 162 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that is my stamping grounds, Holland, Michigan. If 163 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: you ever heard of Hope College, that's right there. It 164 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: is going to be held at the Hayward Center, which 165 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: is pretty much on the grounds of Hope College. It's 166 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: a beautiful facility and it is pretty much right to 167 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: the close to the shores of Lake Michigan. So if 168 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 2: you've never seen Lake Michigan, that has to be on 169 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: your list. While you're there close proximity walking distant since 170 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 2: to downtown Holland. And I think that downtown Holland is 171 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: catered for women, shoffing and coffee chefs and boutiques and 172 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: all the things. In fact, the group that I just 173 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: had here recently we went to downtown Holland for the afternoon. 174 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: I just wanted to kind of get their opinion, and 175 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: it was one hundred percent positive. 176 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: They can't wait to come back. So it's a great area. 177 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 2: But even more importantly, it's easy to get to fly 178 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: into Grand Rapids. 179 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: We have a lot to pack into those three days. 180 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a website going for you, and we 181 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: have a lot of things that are on the website, 182 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: but we also have a couple of things that we 183 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: can talk about here that are going to probably enlighten 184 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 2: you as your brain is spinning already. First of all, 185 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: where the name came from, Christiella you talk. 186 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, we were discussing obviously what we wanted to call this. 187 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: And one of the reasons that Sherry and I fell 188 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 3: in love with each other is because we realized how 189 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: aligned we are with our recovery, but also with is 190 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 3: how we want we have this passion right for other 191 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: women to know the peace and the freedom and the 192 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: joy that comes in pursuing that recovery with Jesus, and 193 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: so we are aligned on that together and we feel 194 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: like the concept of being aligned closer to Jesus can 195 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: serve you wherever you are in your recovery journey. First 196 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 3: of all, let's just say this is the first ever 197 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: Christian conference for women who are seeking to live alcohol free. 198 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 3: So it's the first one, which is so exciting. But 199 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: if this is your first kind of like crack into 200 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: this sober verse, then you can live more aligned by 201 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: stepping away from alcohol. But also if you're years down 202 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: the line at this, there's still that room for growth 203 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: and living more aligned with Jesus. We just love that 204 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: word so much because it caters to no matter where 205 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: you are in your alcohol free journey. 206 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love that because for many maybe you've 207 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: been to something very small or very private and no 208 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: one knew you went, and you're thinking, ooh, signing up 209 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: for faith based recovery, that really that outs me. Well, 210 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: guess what everybody there is for the same reason, to 211 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: discover more hearts aligned with theirs. And I guarantee you 212 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: if you feel like something's missing in your recovery, you 213 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: have Jesus. You're no longer using whatever substance was taking 214 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: you down in life, but something's missing. Community is what's missing, 215 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: and being in person is one of the best gifts 216 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 2: you can give yourself and that's a big reason why 217 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: we're doing what we're doing, along with amazing speakers and testimonies, 218 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 2: and learn from those who have gone before you. I mean, 219 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: that's one thing that I hung on to and still do. 220 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: When I listen to other women talk, I'm always looking 221 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 2: for more nuggets of inspiration and what did they do 222 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 2: teach me? 223 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so so good. Let's a little bit. As 224 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: we're talking about who this is for, let's speak a 225 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 3: little bit to the woman that might be nervous about 226 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: coming on their own. What would you say to her? 227 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: I would say to you, if you have no one 228 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: to come with, you're going to leave there with friends. 229 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk to that right now. 230 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: They might not be coming home with you, but you will, context, 231 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: you will everything. There's so many virtual things this day, Christine, 232 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: I both have virtual meetings all the time. You're going 233 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: to leave with a new community. I promise you. The 234 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: way the conference is set up, it's not awkward. You 235 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 2: will be embraced. I'm telling you, Yeah, if you're not 236 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 2: coming alone, I encourage you to look for the woman 237 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: that is alone. The way that recovery works, especially in community, 238 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: I've never witnessed the cattiness that goes with. 239 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 1: A lot of groups. 240 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: So I actually compared recently to working in a so 241 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: I sail the house, you know, like a Christian environment. 242 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: I don't feel like the competition and the backstabbing that 243 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: can come in working and cut throat off us, you know, 244 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: like it would have worked, you know, back in the day. 245 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: Why you to keep in mind, it feels I just 246 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: had to retreat recently where a woman shared with me 247 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: just yesterday how incredibly nervous she was and she was 248 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: coming alone. Yeah, and we laughed about it last night 249 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: because she's like, I hadn't no idea. Why on earth 250 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: was I so nervous? Why was I scammed? What was 251 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: to be heard of? Because you're going there to meet 252 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: women exactly like. 253 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 3: You, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's already a common ground, as 254 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: you said, right, it's you know that you have the 255 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: same struggles and that you're following the same God, which 256 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 3: is the most important thing. And I love that so 257 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: much that you said. I think it's so so true. 258 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: I've never really seen the cattiness or any of that 259 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,239 Speaker 3: stuff that we worry about in my community. 260 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: It's like matchmaker dot Com, but everything matches everybody. Yes, Yeah, 261 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: there's there's get that all out of the way, all 262 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: the awkwardness. It's like, you know, and there's going to 263 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: be a woman there. I guarantee you more than one 264 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: who has been teetering back and forth. I want you 265 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: to come too. You have been you know, going back 266 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: and forth in your sobriety for years. Maybe this is 267 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: what you need. Maybe this is you know, where you're 268 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: going to be filled. Maybe this is where you're really 269 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: going to hear God's voice and you know, really cling 270 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 2: to that, and where you're going to get the support 271 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: around you that you've been waiting for or been looking for. 272 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: You don't have to be sober to come to this. 273 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: You need to be sober while you're there. Don't even 274 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: try it. 275 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: Yes, it's for any woman right that loves Jesus or 276 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: wants to reconnect with him and is trying to move 277 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: further away from alcohol. And as you kind of like 278 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: touched on, we're going to structure kind of the seating 279 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: and the schedule and everything to take into account the 280 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: woman that might be on her own. So if that 281 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: is your one thing that you're thinking of right now 282 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: is oh my gosh, then I hope we've believed a 283 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: little bit of those fears. It's scary because you've never 284 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: done it before. And that is why, right, that is 285 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: the thing. We are always scared. Our brain is always 286 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: trying to keep us safe by running the same familiar patterns. 287 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: It's probably why you got stuck with wine in the 288 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 3: first place, right, And so be brave, step out of 289 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: your comfort zone, like it will be so worth it. 290 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: It will be so so worth it. 291 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: And the reward of how that feels every time we 292 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: accomplish something new, We're so proud of ourselves and it 293 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: just sets you out to have another win, win after 294 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: win after win. 295 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: So and we'll be there. We'll be friends. I promised, 296 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: we'll be there. 297 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, at the very least, you can come and hang 298 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: out with them. We'll be back right after a quick 299 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: word from our sponsors. My pause is just for a moment. 300 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: If you're listening to this and thinking I don't want 301 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: to do this alone anymore, I want to tell you 302 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 3: about the Love Life Sober community. This is the space 303 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 3: where the podcast turns into real connection and real support. 304 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: Inside the community. We gather weekly for live connection calls 305 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 3: where you can listen, share, or simply just be present. 306 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: There's a beautiful leadership team who hold this space with 307 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: wisdom and care, a dedicated prayer request area, regular masterclasses 308 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: led by expert guests, and even a worship music playlist 309 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: to help you reconnect when your nervous system needs it. 310 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 3: There's also a dedicated coaching space called Truevine for women 311 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: who want even deeper support the love life. Sober Community 312 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: is a place to connect with like minded women and 313 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 3: open up in a way you might not be able 314 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: to in your church or small group. This space was 315 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: specifically created for women who are questioning their relationship with 316 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 3: alcohol and who want the kind of freedom that only 317 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: can be found in Jesus. All the details to join 318 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: us are at the link in the show notes. I 319 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: can't wait to meet you. Let's jump back into the 320 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:54,359 Speaker 3: episode about our incredible speakers. So we have three speakers 321 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: lined up so far. We have our friend John Seidel, 322 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: who's the author of Confessions of a Christian Alcoholic who 323 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: you've heard on both of our podcasts. And then we 324 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 3: also have Caroline Weidler, who has written all about trauma 325 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 3: and her newest book is When You Love Someone in Recovery. 326 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: She is just a beautiful, beautiful speaker and encourager and 327 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 3: voice in this space. And then we also have our 328 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 3: friend Erica Anderson, who recently spoke to your gals. Yeah, 329 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 3: your community in your special chapel, which I can't wait 330 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 3: to see. So we've got those three, three amazing speakers. 331 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 3: Maybe talk a little bit about what that was like 332 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 3: having Erica with your group. 333 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 2: Yes, it was kind of and it was kind of 334 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: how our whole conversation started. 335 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 3: By head fall Melzi can com So we had to 336 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: create something. 337 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, so talking to Erica, who lives a couple of 338 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: states away, and we have a venue that we went 339 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: in to start using. It's a it's a little church 340 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 2: and it's called Sanctuary Place and it holds round seventy five. 341 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: And I want to step out of the shell and 342 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: have a recovery event. 343 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: So I'm just like, let's have Erica. 344 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: And she came and she spoke, and oh my goodness, 345 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: it was such a good night. We served mocktails and 346 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: I got to say in our church, the bar is 347 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: now open, and that was fun. And you know, we 348 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: did some prizes, but I will tell you there were 349 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 2: all kinds of women there that night. I don't know 350 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: what everybody's story is, of course, but there was a 351 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: woman who loved someone in recovery. There's a woman in recovery. 352 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: There's a woman who wanted to be in recovery. And 353 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: there was just the woman who was like, I just 354 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: want a girl's night out where there's no pressure drink, 355 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: where my girlfriends and I can go and have fun 356 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: and not be in a bar. So there was quite 357 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: the variety in the audience. But what kind of sparked 358 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: everything was when I told my private group Joyful Surrender 359 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: that I was doing this the next day, one of 360 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: the said, well, I'm coming, And I'm like, but you're. 361 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: From Texas, and she's like, is it a problem? 362 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: And more, We're coming, And that just really showed both 363 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: of us how incredibly hungry women are to get together. 364 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: And we hosted the event. 365 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: Everybody I knew stayed at sale House, which was awesome, 366 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: and Erica stayed overnight too, and we had a recovery 367 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: meeting the next morning with my small group that was 368 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 2: there in Erica and some of the sale House alumni 369 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: that had been through our program. And I will say 370 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: it's one of the top ten things in my life. 371 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: It was me It's like everything I've ever wanted to 372 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: be a part of and to also observe it was, 373 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 2: and to recreate any of that on a larger scale. 374 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: I think we're all in for some really wow moments. 375 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: God's gonna do big things here. 376 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 3: I'm so so excited. I'm so excited. All of this 377 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: information that we're going through is on our website and 378 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 3: while we get in the show notes obviously, but just 379 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: to chat really quickly about where to stay. There's two 380 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: hotels that we have reserved room blocks at, which are 381 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: on the website. There's also a ton of adorable airbnbs 382 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 3: in the area, so if you want to partner up 383 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 3: with some gals coming, you can do that. And as 384 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: you said, it's a really easy walkable area. 385 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, the airport is probably a little less than a 386 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 2: thirty minute probably thirty minute taps uber. I would definitely 387 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 2: reck unless there's something you really want to do that 388 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: requires a car. I would not rent a car. I 389 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: would get an uber from the airport. Parking is a 390 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 2: little difficult in Holland. There's not a lot of parking. 391 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: It's an older downtown area, but everything's walkable. We also 392 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: we're gonna have a shuttle bus we talked about that 393 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: that we have for salehouse. 394 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: We're going to be doing tours of salehouse. 395 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: If anybody would like to sign up for those to 396 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: go see that, I'll talk to the driver and maybe 397 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: if there's a lot of interest in like hey, I'd 398 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: love to go see Lake Michigan, we'll see if we 399 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 2: can get that bus to go a couple places. But 400 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 2: I highly recommend just ubering from the airport. An uber 401 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 2: or a lyft trying to stay somewhere walkable would be 402 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: a really good idea. Or if one of you rents 403 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 2: a car and you're, you know, only driving one car 404 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: into town, that's highly recommended too. 405 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, good top tip. I like that. Yeah, I'm 406 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: so excited. So we will start. We've had some questions 407 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: already about when the conference is starting and when it ends, 408 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 3: so we will start on the Tuesday afternoon and then 409 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: we'll be done by lunchtime on the Thursday. So if 410 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 3: you're looking at flights, you know you would need two nights, 411 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 3: the Tuesday and the Wednesday night at one of those hotels. 412 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: Some of us will be there early on Monday, so 413 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: if you want to come hang out earlier with you 414 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 3: or know your friends. There are people that are coming 415 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: on the Monday, but you really only need to be 416 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: there the Tuesday and Wednesday, so that you know for 417 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: planning with your families and work and everything like that. 418 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 3: And we will start Tuesday afternoon and be done by 419 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 3: the day lunchtime. We will put all the official timings 420 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: and everything on the website really really soon, so you'll 421 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: have a really good idea of the run the show. 422 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: Run the run of the show, the greatest show on Earth. 423 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: There's a bunch of faques on there again, the hotels 424 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 3: on there, the airports on there. You do have to register, 425 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 3: and we only have and this is really important, we 426 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: only have two hundred and fifty slots, so register soon. No, 427 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: you don't have to panic about it, but we are 428 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: we are likely to sell out between both of our 429 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 3: audiences and communities, which is really really exciting, and so 430 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: get your ticket sooner than later. You do have to 431 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: get your ticket in addition to your hotel and flight. 432 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 3: But we have priced it really really reasonably for what 433 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: we're giving you, right, babe. 434 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 2: We have. We've tried really hard the first time, you know, 435 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 2: for us doing this too, and for what we want 436 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: to provide. We want to make it accessible for everyone, 437 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: So Jesus take the wheel and all that kind of stuff, 438 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 2: you know. So thank Yeah, he's got us, He's got this. 439 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 2: So but it's exciting. I am being thrilled to be 440 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: doing this with you, Christy. It's just yeah, that's such 441 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: a good connection and just thrilled. Any woman that's thinking 442 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: about this, just do it. If you're feeling the urge, 443 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: just sign up. It's going to be amazing. 444 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 3: If you have any questions, please let us know. We'll 445 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: pop both of our emails as well, and contact details 446 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 3: and all that good stuff in the show notes. We 447 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 3: are so excited to see you on September twenty second, 448 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: first ever Aligned conference. 449 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, summer's gonna fly. It'll be here before we 450 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: know it. Some more information to come. Thanks for hosting this, Christy. 451 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to everybody soon. 452 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 3: So excited. All right, friends, we will see you next week. 453 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening, and we will see you on 454 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: September twenty second. Thank you for spending this time with 455 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 3: me on Love Live Sober. If today's conversation stirred something 456 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 3: in your heart, don't rush past it. Take it to prayer. 457 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: If you're feeling ready, for deeper connection and support. I'd 458 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 3: love to invite you into the love Life Sober community, 459 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: a grace filled, shame free space where real connection grows 460 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: and lasting change takes root. You can find the link 461 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: to join us in the show notes. Love Life Sober 462 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 3: is part of the Life Audio podcast network, where faith 463 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 3: filled conversations help you grow deeper in your walk with Christ. 464 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 3: You can find more faith centered podcasts at lifeaudio dot com. 465 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 3: Until next time, be gentle with yourself, stay curious, and 466 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 3: trust God's promises. He has freedom waiting for you.