WEBVTT - Somali Fraud Scandal EXPLODES 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.200 We're back from the holiday weekend and there is no 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:05.000 shortage of stuff going on in the news of Somali 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:09.639 fraud scandal in Minnesota has absolutely exploded. Shocky new footage 0:00:09.760 --> 0:00:12.560 from YouTuber Nick Shirley has rocked the Land of ten 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:16.280 Thousand Lakes. Meanwhile, Donald Trump with a Christmas special whacking 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.400 ices in Nigeria, while at the same time Tucker Carlson 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.960 going really soft on Islam. Also Vlai mer Zelenski at 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.560 mar A Lago, Bibi Nitznyaku at mar A Lago. Today, 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.800 there's a lot of stuff happening on today's episode of 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:36.519 The Josh Hammer Show. Welcome back everyone, Hope you had 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.279 a very merry Christmas. Wishing you a happy early New 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.199 Year as well. Smally fraud in Minnesota. We've been covering 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.840 this story for months to us here on The Josh 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:50.440 Hammer Show. The ongoing smally fraud in Minnesota, combined with 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.360 all of the recent shenanigans and histrionics in dearborn Michigan, 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:56.520 to say nothing of the recent moves by governors of 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.600 Santas and Governor Abbott in Florida and Texas, respectfully, this 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.840 is all part and parcel of the broader pitch that 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:08.800 Islam is increasingly making inroads in the United States, and 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.399 it's not just those five to six am calls to 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.680 prayer from the minarets of the mosque. No, this is 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:20.800 an actual, genuine cultural, constitutional, legal, and civilizational incompatibility. Really 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.040 ground zero of this conversation has moved, i would say, 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.679 possibly away from Deerbrow, Michigan, all the way to Minneapolis, Minnesota, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.360 where this fraud scandal, which was initially brought to its 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.919 current status as the focal points national conversations, was initially 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:38.120 brought there by Chris Rufo of City Journal and the 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.479 Manhattan Stitude. Chris doing amazing work as always, this thing's 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.360 really exploded. Now we know that Secretary Scott Present of 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:47.400 the Treasury Department is involved currently in all sorts of 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:51.120 financial investigations trying to discern who, including but not limited 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:54.280 to public officials, left officials, who knew what and when 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.480 did they know it, What possible statutes were violated when 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:01.040 it comes to just brazen, out right defrauding of the 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.920 United States taxpayer, let alone siphoning and taking some of 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:08.399 this money and shipping it overseas to cross subsidize Al 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.120 Shabab the former Al Qaeda offs you, which is now 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:14.240 an independent pseudoni jihadist organization there in Somalia. Turns out 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:18.680 the Minnesota taxpayer the number one funder of al Shabab. Insane, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.400 utterly insane stuff. Well, the reason that we were revisiting 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.359 the story is because it actually escalated just over the 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.360 past a few days while we were taking a bit 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:27.760 of a break here on the Josh Hammers Show, and 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.520 while you were hopefully enjoying some wonderful time with your family. 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.800 So YouTuber Nick Sureley, we'll get to him in just 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:38.680 a minute here doing phenomenal work his views on the ground, 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.760 generating about one hundred million views on YouTube, just trying 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.440 to get there and to show you with his own camera, 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.720 with the flesh, you can actually see what this fraud 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.640 looks like there in ground zero, so to speak, in 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:55.480 Minneapolis and practice. But some of this was escalated as 0:02:55.480 --> 0:03:00.079 well by just another element to this fraud scandal, and 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.680 it was actually Cash Battel, the embattled FBI director, who 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.840 nonetheless is doing a very competent job, at least by 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:09.639 my estimation, he is getting a lot of flag including 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:11.120 from some people on the right. When it comes to 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.560 the Epstein Finals. We've generally been defenders of Director Pattel, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:17.680 and unless we've given reason for not being defenders of him, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.119 we're going to continue to defend him. And sure enough, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.560 he issued a very interesting and notable update when it 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.360 comes to the Somali fraud scandal over the weekend cash 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:31.120 PTEL on Saturday, putting on x in relevant part quote, 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.720 the FBI is aware of recent social media reports in Minnesota. However, 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:38.440 even before the public conversation escalate online, the FBI had 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:43.200 surged personnel and investigative resources to Minnesota to dismantle large 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:47.560 scale fraud schemes exploiting federal programs. Fraud that steals from 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.160 taxpayers and rob's vulnerable children will remain a top FBI 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:55.680 priority in Minnesota and nationwide. To date, the FBI dismantled 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.400 a two hundred and fifty million dollar fraud scheme two 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.800 hundred and fifteen million dollar fronts that stole federal food 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:06.520 aid meant for vulnerable children during COVID. The investigation exposed 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.360 sham vendors, shell companies, and large scale money laundering tied 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.440 to the Feeding Our Future network. The case led to 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:18.160 seventy eight indictments. Fifty seven convictions. The FBI believes this 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:22.039 is just the tip of a very large iceberg. We'll 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.040 continue to follow the money and protect children. This investigation 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:29.640 very much remains ongoing. I saw someone actually a Twitter wag, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.279 if you will, a bit of a social media troll, 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:38.160 just a remarkable, remarkable side by side comparison according to 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:41.800 some estimates based what we've seen thus far, including not 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:45.440 limited to that quarter of a billion dollar healthcare childcare 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.680 fraud number that I just read to you, including the 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:51.160 al Shabab transfers, all of what we've learned recently. When 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.400 it comes to the extent of Somali fraud in Minnesota, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:59.400 it arguably, based on some math, they've now stolen more 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:05.000 taxpayer dollars then what Lehman Brothers, the former Bolsbracken Investment Bank, 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.520 what they lost in two thousand and eight. So, if 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:09.760 you feed your mind packed two thousand and eight, it 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:12.040 was really Lehman Brothers and bear Stearns. It was the 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:17.240 collapse of these those two particular banks that cause the 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.640 Great Recession, the great financial crisis of two thousand and seven, 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.159 two thousand and eight. There So I saw someone X 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.880 post this article from September tenth, two thousand and eight, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:28.839 the investment bank Lehman Brothers announced that it was expecting 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:32.040 a loss of three point nine billion dollars after a 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.600 five point six billion dollars in write down. So, look, 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:36.360 the math can get a little dice depending on how 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.840 you cut it. On some estimates, Somalis have defrauded the 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.840 American tax payer by more dollars than the Lehman Brothers 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.240 literally lost, which arguably was the final factor for the 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.840 full blown financial crisis that engulfed the final year or 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.040 so of the Bush presidency and the first year or 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.960 so of the Obama presidency. So just absolutely wild stuff there, 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.000 and there's a lot to unpack about this there. But 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.880 without further ado, let's go ahead and actually take a 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.520 look at what YouTuber Nick Shirley has been doing. This 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.159 stuff is absolutely blowing up on my social media feed. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.080 I presume that is blowing up on your social media 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.039 feed as well. I'd actually never heard of the guy. 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.360 I never heard of Nick Shirley. I salute you, sir, 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.640 you are doing some really fantastic work. Let's go ahead 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.120 and just watch a very short snippet of this on 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.120 the ground reporting in Minneapolis. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.839 Are there local reporters like that in your area? And 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.800 why do you think they weren't doing the work that 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:24.240 you did? 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:25.280 I don't know. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:30.240 I'm like they're scared of being called nowadays because it's 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.320 some aliums that are committing this product. People are scared of 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:37.000 be calling Islamophobic, racist, in which has nothing to do 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.159 with what's going on. Because fraud is fraud. It doesn't 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.839 matter if it's a black person, white person. Agent Verson Mexican. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:46.200 Fraud is fraud, and we work too hard simply just 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.440 to be paying taxes in enabling fraud to be happening. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.039 So this is the relevant question, right is who is 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.560 covering the story and who is not covering the story. Unfortunately, 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.279 based on my quick surveying of the media landscape, the 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.520 ducks are lining up in the row exactly as you 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:04.040 would expect. So Newsweek, which hosts our show, to newswek's 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.600 great credit. We are covering this story on Newsweek. The 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:11.000 same cannot be said of many other broader speaking, wider 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:15.160 distribution mainstream media publications, most of whom are deliberately choosing 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.600 to turn a blind eye to this particular story. But 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.000 why should it turn upon an independent YouTuber like Nick Shirley, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:22.760 and by the way, he was right there on Fox News. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.480 You ought to go ahead and actually check out his 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.080 YouTube fee because you will just see some stuff that 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.280 will make you want to gouge your freaking eyes out there. 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.840 Why should it fall on Nick Shirley to get there 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.280 on the ground and actually start exposing some of the 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.640 sheer level of fraud that is coming from the Somali 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.280 community that the officials are certainly starting to make this 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.920 a broader point of the national conversation as well. One 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.360 of the things that I've been saying for a while 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.520 is when did these leading Minnesota politicians get word of this? 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:56.040 And when did they know it? What did Tim Walls, 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.560 Keith Ellison, elan Omar, all these other end of ten 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.200 thousand Lakes ingrits. What did they know? When did they 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.280 know it? These use some of the questions that I 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.520 hope Scott has sent that Treasury is able to uncover 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.440 in the course of his financial investigation. Frankly, we could 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.600 use some more Chris Rufo style investigated journalists trying to 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:19.240 figure that out as well. Congressman Tom Emmer of the 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.320 state of Minnesota had this to say, as well about 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.880 what is going on with Minnesota's own elected officials and 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.760 their complicity in this whole fraud scandal in Minnesota. 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:29.680 This has been going on four years. I told you, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.720 we've known about the daycare fraud for the past decade. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.840 We've been trying to sound the alarm on the rest 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.680 of the fraud for the last three years. And it 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.120 wasn't until President Trump, who I'm very grateful for him, 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.880 actually saying something about it, made this a national story 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.720 that people started paying attention. And here's the difference Minnesota. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.800 It's apparently a business. Whistleblowers are coming forward and if 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.959 they are real, Mike, and if what they're saying can 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.160 be documented, and what they're saying is they told Tim Walls, 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.840 they told Keith Ellison about the fraud when it was happening, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.800 and they not only didn't do anything, they retaliated against them, Mike. 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.959 If that's true, if that can be documented, these guys 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.880 need to be prosecuted, held accountable, and prosecuted to the 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:11.880 full extent of a lot. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.200 You know, I was looking at my social media feed 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:16.080 before we started to record our show's day and I 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:20.880 saw RNC Research, which is a very nifty social media 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.120 feed that produces a lot of good video content. They 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.600 have this clip that I hadn't seen previously of Tim 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.120 Walls saying, quote, we should have been keeping Minnesota's more 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:35.360 up to speed on what was happening. You think, like, 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.800 what is wrong with you? What was happening? What a euphemism? 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.640 What was happening while your own people, while little Mogadishu 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.520 in the state capital of Saint Paul and the Joint 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.480 Any of Minneapolis, while they were defrauding your own people, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:54.319 your own public treasury and sending money, not merely diverting 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.520 it from lawful use, from public use for the common wheel, 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.160 for the common good when it comes to road and 0:10:00.200 --> 0:10:03.079 bridges in construction, all the basic things of good governance, 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.520 not just that take the money and also taking it 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.760 and then shipping it overseas. I mean, what was happening. 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:14.400 What was happening, Tim Walls, is that you presided over 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.120 the single largest fraud scandal the entire history of the 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.680 United States, and given the al Shabab connection, also the 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:28.600 single largest foreign terrorist organization funding scandal since the largest 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.440 terror financing scandal in the history of the United States, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.320 which came back in two thousand and seven in the 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:37.680 form of the Holy Land Foundation trial in North Texas. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.000 The Holy Land Foundation, which was based in the Dallas suburbs, 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.439 was found to be a direct American plant of Hamas 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.080 and the Most Brotherhood, and they were busted by the way, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:49.280 CARE of the Council of Americans long relations was found to 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.320 be an unindicted co conspirator by the federal judge in 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.679 the course of the Holy Land Foundation terror financing trial. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.679 So put that on the back burner for now when 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.880 it comes to CARE and their long standing connections to 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.800 Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. But the relevant question that 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.760 Tom Memmer is asking is what do these public officials 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.280 know and when did they know. It's the question that 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:11.000 we are going to continue to beat the drama of 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:12.560 very much here on our show. 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:12.880 Center. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.640 Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, by the way, very much echoing 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:17.280 Commerce and EMRA, go ahead and watch this well. 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:18.679 First of all, we need to put all kinds of 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.760 pressure on the state agencies to give us their records. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.920 Now I'm chairming the permanent subcominge investigations. This will be 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.520 a primary folks of ours. We're already reaching out to 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.240 Nick Shirley and David and other people who can provide 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.400 testimony for this, but we also need documents. So you know, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.640 these agency heads who finally the federal money to the 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.559 state agencies, they have to demand that the state agencies 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:43.520 are transparent, and unfortunately, particularly in Democrat controlled states, they're not. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.520 They're refusing term of those records. I've got subpoena power. 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.160 I will use that subpoena power to obtain these records 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:52.360 because we have to get to the bottom of this. Understand 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.559 Somali's just been this country a few years. They're amateurs 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:59.079 when it comes to fleecing the federal government. And let's 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.840 face it, thement I'd have gotten this is probably the 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:05.320 easiest consumer, the easiest payer to fleece, and states do 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.240 it time and time again. So this is just tip 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:07.920 to the iceberg. 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.640 You know, I saw this clip on Friday. It was 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.040 a day after Christmas. I'm sure many of you are offline. Heck, 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.880 God was mostly offline as well. But I saw this 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.240 clip of the Lieutenant governor of Minnesota, whose name is 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:24.280 Peggy Flanagan, and Peggy Flanagan actually goes ahead and puts 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:28.560 on this hija and she's standing there with representatives of 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:33.320 the smaller community, talking about how small these built this state. 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:38.480 I mean, what is wrong with some of you people? Like, 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:42.000 what is actually wrong with some of you people that 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:46.320 you're just sitting there and letting this different culture that 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:48.400 is not only a different culture when it comes to 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:52.480 polite mannerisms, but apparently, as far as we can tell, 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:55.520 also has part of its culture endemic to its culture, 0:12:55.559 --> 0:13:00.720 perhaps the brazen defrauding of their fellow citizens in this case, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.000 they're fellow Americans and of the taxpayer. More broadly, is 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.800 Minnesota iss gonna let their are there elected officials just 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.920 gonna stand back and let Minneapolis become the next Brussels Belgier, 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.079 or the next Paris or London. Maybe it is already. 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.439 He guy was there on the airport in Minneapolis with 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.679 the first time back in August. I looked around. I 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.520 couldn't believe what I saw. You do not feel like 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.840 you're in the United States. And this really kind of 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.480 cuts to the broader points here. Yes, I want to 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.360 know what Keith Ellison knew. I want to know what 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.760 Tim Walls knew. I want to know what Illino Marnu. 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:36.520 I want to know what all of them knew and 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:41.440 their complicity, their offuscation at best and at worst, their 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:48.400 willful complicity in this horrific fraud scandal. But the broader point, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:52.360 beyond these specific details of this fraud scandal, the broader 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:56.840 point is this, is this a culture? Is this a 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:01.880 way of life that is compatible with American republicanism, American 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.680 self governance, and American constitutionalism? And unless you are hiding 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.480 under a rock, unless you have two or three brain 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:10.880 cells operating between the years, the answer should be should 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:16.160 be obvious. The answer is no. Now, what are we 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.320 going to do about it? That's a broader conversation that 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:21.360 we will table for now. But it suffice to say 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.200 that all options when it comes to deporting non citizens, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.720 folks who are aliens here, who have lied on their paperwork, 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:30.840 folks who have who lied as far as they support 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.360 foreign terrorist organizations, they are folks who have committed fraud, 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.880 who have committed crimes. There all of them should be deported. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.280 And frankly, we are not at all opposed. We're actually 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.480 very supportive on the show of the notion of initiating 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.080 denaturalization proceedings for those who have been initiated into the 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.200 United States clizenship there But either lied on their application 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:52.200 form or continue to have to have other foreign allegiances 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.880 that directly undermine their support for the good old US 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.000 of A. By the way, Somalia not the not the only, 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:04.000 not the old, only radical islam tide country that was 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.440 in the news over the long holiday weekends, So there 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.280 was actually a Christmas special, a Christmas special from President 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:10.160 Donald J. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:10.520 Trump. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:15.080 This horrific situation Nigeria has been building up for months now, 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:17.880 are arguably for years. Boko Haram, which is the radical 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.760 Islamic offshoot in Nigeria, has been on a rampage for many, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.160 many years now, but this started to pick up in 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.400 recent months and terrible, terrible headlines emerging out of the 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.560 very religiously divided country of Nigeria, country that has split 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.760 roughly down the middle between Christians and Muslims, has been 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.080 it's been an ongoing Christian genocide, and yes, as far 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.200 as I can tell it, it absolutely is a genocide 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.720 because these are individuals who horrifically and tragically are being 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:49.240 deliberately targeted and persecuted simply because of their faith, simply 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.320 because of their religion. Donald Trump released a video maybe 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.080 a few weeks ago about a month ago, give or take, 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.160 saying in no uncertain terms to the Nigerian government and 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:03.240 to BOCO harm the radical terroristorization, their community of ttrostes 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.080 saying stop this or else we're going to do something. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:09.320 And apparently Trump in his inner circle reached a conclusion 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.080 on Christmas Eve last Wednesday, that they were actually going 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.200 to do something, and they apparently delayed that decision until 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:18.280 Christmas Day for something of a symbolic show. And that's 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.000 exactly what happened there. So, the US engaging in strikes 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.240 on ISIS and BOCO Harama and radical Islamic militants there 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:27.640 in the state of Nigeria, specifically in the state of Sokoto, 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.880 which is on the border of some of the neighboring 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.800 countries there, all these groups are kind of connected there. 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.960 There's al Qaeda in the Western Sahara, there's ISIS, there's 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.280 Boko Haram. All these radical Sunni Islamus groups end up 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.320 being closely supported to one another there. I think they 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:48.200 were all In question from our perspective is what does 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.480 this say about Donald Trump's foreign policy? Now, don Trump's 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:55.040 foreign policy is largely predicated on the American national interest, 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.720 is largely predicated on what is best from a somewhat 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.960 narrow view of a dancing America's strategic interests overseas is 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:06.679 not necessarily the moralistic foreign policy of the Bush administration 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:11.160 from a neo conservad perspective, or the moralistic foreign policy 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:14.359 of the Bush or of the Obama administration when it 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.120 comes to a humanitarian interventionist perspective. That's how we got 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.320 to the Batch intervention in Libya, to ask Momar Kadafi 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.560 back in twenty eleven. There So, the Nigeria intervention is 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.840 it is somewhat counter to this very narrow strategic interest there. 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.119 Certainly Nigeria is a somewhat valuable country there. I'm not 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:38.160 sure it has the strategic importance of other countries around 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:40.160 the world there, but Nigeria is considered to be one 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.800 of the better to do, one of the more advanced 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.080 countries in that particular part of the world, which as 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:46.920 of right now is not actually saying a whole lot, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.600 but it still is one of the more advanced countries there. 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.440 So it's definitely not a not important country, but it 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.919 doesn't really have the strategic importance of a Saudi Arabia, 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.040 to say nothing of a Japan or a country like that. Right, 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.240 So as that say, well, I think what it says 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.880 is that Donald Trump is at his core, instinctually, viscerally, 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.240 is he is a defender of Christendom and of Western civilization. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.680 Donald Trump might not be someone who's going to be 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:17.280 able to theorize and philosophize. He's not writing forty page treatises. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:21.960 He's not writing six hundred page you know, PhD dissertations 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.679 on the meaning of Western civilization. You know, you know, 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.560 leave that to the public intellectuals, the scholars, the eggheads, 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:31.280 people like that. But in his gut, in his heart, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:35.840 Donald Trump gets what Western civilization is. He gets the 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:40.160 Western civilization is the Biblical inheritance. He happens to love 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:42.320 the Jewish people. I saw it in person for myself, 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:43.639 was originally two weeks a when I was there for 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.399 the Honka celebrations. He has a visceral love for the 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:48.560 original people of the book, the Jewish people. And he 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.560 totally understands, as a Christian himself, that it is Christian 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.840 Dad and he is Christendom that spread the principles of 0:18:54.880 --> 0:18:58.960 the Bible to billions, literally billions and billions of people. Therefore, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.280 establishing the modern predic gate for what we'd say called 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:05.120 Western civilization. And this might be somewhat of an aberration 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:09.040 when it comes to his somewhat narrow America First national's 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.159 view of foreign policy, but I think viewed from that 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:15.280 somewhat different, albeit closely related perspective, whereas he also sees 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.880 himself as a champion of Western civilization. There, I think 0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:21.720 that this is really the better way probably to understand 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:28.000 this particular limited humanitarian intervention in Nigeria. The somewhat rebuttal 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.000 to that would be, okay, what if we get sucked 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.640 into a broader conflict in Nigeria? And then the response 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.840 to that rebuttal is very simple, just don't do it, okay, 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:37.320 I mean, just toe to it, the same way that 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.600 we didn't get sucked into a broader war in Iran 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.320 after the B two bombers struck back in June. Just 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:48.600 because you have some level of intervention, some level of precision, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.399 strike and get the heck out, that doesn't mean that 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.440 you were immediately going to get involved. When it comes 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.600 to boots on the grounds and all the horrible memories 0:19:55.600 --> 0:20:00.880 of rock Aghanstan. You know a lot of the neoists 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.720 they like to present this total false choice, whereas on 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.840 the one hand we are George W. Bush swashbuckling democracy, 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:13.000 promoting neoconservatism, or on the other hand, just don't get involved. 0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.720 But what I've been saying for years, years and years 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:20.959 and years is that most Americans, most common sense people, 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:25.080 most people who give an iota a modicum a critical 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:28.600 thought to these matters, understands that John McCain and Ron 0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:31.240 Paul are not the only two options for foreign policy. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.880 There is like ninety eight percent of the middle holding 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:39.360 aside the extreme one percent. Now, reasonal folks can disagree 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:41.920 on a given action, and reasonable folks certainly can disagree 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:44.159 here when it comes to the wisdom of intervening in 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:48.040 limited fashion in Nigeria. But viewed from the perspective of 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:54.040 defending be leaguered, besieged Christians against radical Islam, Donald Trump 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:58.760 is positioning himself, I think, straightforwardly and forthrightly as a champion, 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.680 as a defender of Western civilization and the biblical inheritance 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.359 that defines Western civilization. That's maybe not how Donald Trump 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.280 would say it if you were asked in an interview, 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.760 but I think that in his guts, in his guts. 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.640 That really is what he is thinking now speaking of 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:20.560 this threat of this conflict between radical Islam and Christianity. 0:21:20.600 --> 0:21:25.879 And by the way, there's so much dumb, dumb, dumb 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.080 misinformation on this topic. There are a lot of folks 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.399 out there saying, oh, my God, the only reason the 0:21:31.480 --> 0:21:35.360 Muslims hey Christians is because of the State of Israel 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.760 of nineteen forty eight. How short of a memory do 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.879 you guys have? How many history books have you read 0:21:43.000 --> 0:21:46.200 or lack thereof? Have you heard of that thing called 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:51.760 the Crusades, the various wars between Christianity and Islam about 0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:56.360 a thousand years ago? Have you heard about the Siege 0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:00.200