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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro

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Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future

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Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and

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Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you

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Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end

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Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to

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Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. You should get married

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Speaker 1: as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

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Speaker 1: Go start at turning point you would say, college chapter.

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Speaker 2: Go start atturning point. Yould say high school chapter.

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Speaker 1: Go find out how your church can get involved.

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Speaker 3: Sign up and become an activist.

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Speaker 1: I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade,

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Speaker 1: most important decision I ever made in my life, and

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Speaker 1: I encourage you to do the same. Here I am.

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Speaker 3: Lord, Use me.

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Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It is Monday,

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Speaker 4: March twenty third, twenty twenty six. Good to be back

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Speaker 4: in Phoenix.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back. And then it's not just that you're back

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Speaker 5: in Phoenix, it's that you have once again regained access

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Speaker 5: to you know what to oh certain Orange jue that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not there yet. We're not there yet. You

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Speaker 3: gotta you gotta, you know, it's true, strong cell.

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Speaker 5: I had everyone's thinking here, everyone's thinking about.

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Speaker 3: It, all right.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we've got a really full show, lots of

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Speaker 4: The central claim, though, that I want to get to,

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Speaker 3: I want to address it. Let's go ahead and play it.

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Speaker 6: The way that those screenshots got to Candace is via

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Speaker 6: Joe Kent Andrew Colvit. Andrew was in the chat group

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Speaker 5: He was one of the nine people.

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Speaker 6: In the group, and he admitted at first be perfectly honest.

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Speaker 6: At first he was denying it. We didn't know how

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Speaker 6: Candace got them. But then he admitted on the air

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Speaker 5: He told us that that he gave them to someone

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Speaker 3: Do that online. We don't do that.

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Speaker 4: We think that's keeping in the spirit of Charlie's spirit,

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Speaker 4: Okay, we want the truth, we want justice, and we

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Speaker 4: it was an egregious breach. Who ever shared that screen

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Speaker 5: Fair enough, all right. Now, we prefer to keep our

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Speaker 4: do have Senator burniemer We're going to talk about DHS

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Speaker 4: President Trump about a potential ceasefire. Now, President Trump has

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Speaker 4: says that we have a five day ceasefire, but not

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Speaker 3: We want this thing over with Blake.

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Speaker 4: President Trump gave a press conference, kind of a gaggle

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Speaker 7: Ron's Foreign Ministry says, you're not telling the truth when

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Speaker 8: They're gonna have to get themselves better public relations.

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Speaker 2: Straight forward.

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Speaker 8: We have that very very strong talk. So we'll see

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Speaker 8: where they lead. We have points of major points of agreement.

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Speaker 3: Pray for a cease fire.

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Speaker 4: You know, we spend a lot of time on this

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Speaker 7: I can't imagine having a job and which for the

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Speaker 2: Going, well, what did you do? What did you do

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Speaker 7: Then work for the Department of Homeland Security.

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Speaker 4: That, of course, is Senator Bernie Moreno from the great

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Speaker 2: Well, we obviously were exposing the hypocrisy of the Democrats

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Speaker 4: You know, you think about it, Senator, it was easier

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Speaker 2: During the years, they let tens of millions of people

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Speaker 2: here's a free airline ticket, here's a free phone, here's

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Speaker 2: a free hotel room. It was like, basically, these people

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Speaker 2: hit the lottery, right. Republicans did not object to funding

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Speaker 2: Border Patrol went objectively under any measure. Border Patrol wasn't

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Speaker 2: doing their job because their bosses were telling him to

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Speaker 2: basically ignore immigration law. And here we are, flash forward.

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Speaker 2: Border Patrol's doing an amazing job. They're not letting a

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Speaker 2: single solitary legal come in this country. ICE is deporting

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Speaker 2: the worst of the worst side of this country. And

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Speaker 2: where's the Democrats response to not pay them their paychecks?

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Speaker 2: It's pretty up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So President Trump put out a truth basically saying he's

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Speaker 4: loath to make a deal any concessions with Democrats, but

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Speaker 4: he's willing to give them this five billion dollar cut

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Speaker 4: off of ICE funding if they'll pass the Save America Act.

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Speaker 4: I think we all know that they're not going to

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Speaker 4: take this. But has there been any movement? Is there

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Speaker 4: any signs that this impasse is going to be corrected.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to do everything in my personal individual

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Speaker 2: power to get DHS funded, get these people's paychecks done.

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Speaker 2: So I'm obviously going to spend the rest of the

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Speaker 2: day to day, the rest of the week, if it

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Speaker 2: means not being at home for the Eastern recess. I'm

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Speaker 2: absolutely going to object to us a journey we should

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Speaker 2: not leave Washington, DC until we fund DHS, whatever it takes. Look,

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Speaker 2: the president's the greatest deal maker of all time. He

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Speaker 2: made a brilliant move last summer by fully funding ice

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Speaker 2: and border patrol through the entirety of his presidency. So

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Speaker 2: I think the contours of a deal exist. We just

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Speaker 2: need to get some rational Democrats to the table make

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Speaker 2: a deal. Stop hurting Americans? How about that? How about

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Speaker 2: if we just make that the guide post stop hurting

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Speaker 2: working Americans who are doing their job.

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Speaker 5: Are other piple schemes that could come into play if

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Speaker 5: they're continues, if they continue to stone wall on this

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Speaker 5: the one that comes to mind. Obviously they're banking on

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Speaker 5: three four hour TSA lines making people revolt. But for example,

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Speaker 5: it's very we actually know in fact, it's very difficult

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Speaker 5: to bring any sort of bomb on an airplane outside

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Speaker 5: of your suitcase. So could we just basically say you

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Speaker 5: only need to scan twenty percent of people who are

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Speaker 5: getting on the plane, or could the president order something

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Speaker 5: like that or is that not a risk worth taking?

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Speaker 2: It's not a risk worth taking out. It's much more

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Speaker 2: than just TSA that's being funded. This is customs. They

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Speaker 2: inspect packages, board Patrol, the agents that are truly putting

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Speaker 2: their lives at risk. This is a cybersecurity agency, this

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Speaker 2: is FEMA, this is Secret Service, this is our Nuclear

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Speaker 2: Threat Assessment Agency, our Federal Law Enforcement Training Centers. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you just go on and on and on holding investigations.

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Speaker 2: By the way, these are the people that are chasing

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Speaker 2: transnational gangs. So this is this is the department that

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Speaker 2: was created after nine to eleven to keep the homeland safe.

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Speaker 2: I just I just need your viewers to understand that

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Speaker 2: we have put America a grave, grave risk over political games.

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Speaker 2: This is what must end. And I'm calling on Democrats. Look,

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Speaker 2: we can have policy disputes, but we're not gonna have

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Speaker 2: policy disputes while putting the American people in danger. That's

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Speaker 2: a gross negligence of duty. I'll go back to the

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Speaker 2: pay issue. We should not get paid while this is

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Speaker 2: going on. And by the way, the reason they ran

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Speaker 2: out of the chamber is because they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: see SPAN cameras to capture who was objecting. So they

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Speaker 2: literally said I object and then ran out of the

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Speaker 2: chamber like a little child because they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: see SPAN cameras to capture the objector on film. It's

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty bad. I mean, this is and if we

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Speaker 2: had an honest media, by the way, there'd be a

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Speaker 2: total cowardis. They'd have a reporters swarming that centator going

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Speaker 2: why'd you do that? Like why would you object? Why

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Speaker 2: would you get paid one hundred and seventy five and

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Speaker 2: guaranteed money? Well, tsag is who make fifty sixty grand

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Speaker 2: aren't geting. But of course you don't have an honest media.

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Speaker 4: And that's yeah, of course obviously. And you know, Senator

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Speaker 4: the I want to just quickly pivot here. In the

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Speaker 4: last two minutes we have with you, here's President Trump

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Speaker 4: on new talks that he announced that he's been having

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Speaker 4: with Ron's leadership. Whoever those people are top five Ron's.

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Speaker 7: Born ministry says, you're not telling the truth when.

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Speaker 2: It comes to productive conversations family world.

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Speaker 8: They're going to have to get themselves better public relations people.

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Speaker 8: We have that very very strong talks. We'll see where

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Speaker 8: they lead. We have points of major points of agreement.

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Speaker 8: I would say almost all points of agreement. Perhaps that

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Speaker 8: hasn't been conveyed. The communication, as you know, has been

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Speaker 8: blown to pieces. They were unable to talk to each other.

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Speaker 8: But we've had very strong talks. Mister wich Gooff and

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Speaker 8: mister Kushner had them.

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Speaker 2: They went I.

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Speaker 8: Would say perfectly. I would say that if they carry

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Speaker 8: through with that, it'll end that problem, that conflict, and

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Speaker 8: I think it'll end it very, very substantially.

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Speaker 4: So he has said that there's going to be a

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Speaker 4: five day ceasefire on any infrastructure or energy.

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Speaker 3: The markets love this. That shot.

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Speaker 4: The Dow Future shot up up to twelve hundred immediately

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Speaker 4: upon that statement. Senator Marina, what do you make of

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Speaker 4: the status of the war in Iran right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, we had to go in. This is forty seven

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Speaker 2: years of bad behavior. We could not allow Ran to

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Speaker 2: have a nuclear weapon. We have basically a blittered in

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Speaker 2: their navy, their air force, their ballistic missiles program is

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Speaker 2: almost completely wiped out. Their ability to wreak havoc and

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Speaker 2: date and damage America, are hurt Americans is almost over.

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Speaker 2: I think at the end of the day, President Trump,

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Speaker 2: by rebuilding the military in his first term, by allowing

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Speaker 2: the generals, the real generals, to do their job, and

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Speaker 2: the second term, has own the capabilities of the American

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Speaker 2: military unlike at any time in history. And I pray

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Speaker 2: every day for the security of our soldiers that are

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Speaker 2: harms weigh and pray for a very very quick ending

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Speaker 2: to this conflict, and hopefully President Trump God will and

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Speaker 2: gets it done, and I think he will.

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Speaker 4: Is the Caucus united in support of the President's war efforts.

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Speaker 2: We absolutely are. We know this was something that had

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Speaker 2: to be done, even those of us like me who

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Speaker 2: obviously do not want us engage in conflicts all over

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Speaker 2: the world, it was something that was necessary. But if

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Speaker 2: it's quick, if it's decisive, we get out of there.

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Speaker 2: And I know that's what President Trump wants to do.

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Speaker 2: So fully supportive of his efforts, Fully supportive of our military,

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Speaker 2: and thank God every day that we have people like

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Speaker 2: our brave soldiers that are willing to put their lives

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Speaker 2: at risk.

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Speaker 4: Senator Bernie Moreno not a warhawk here, Fully supportive of

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Speaker 4: the efforts here. Thank you, Senator. I know you squeezed

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Speaker 4: this in today. Thank you for the time. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: to you again soon.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 4: Great conversation with Senator Bernie Moreno. We want to highlight

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Speaker 4: some of what he was talking about. These TSA lines

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Speaker 4: are just insane across the country.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's weaponized government breakdowns. As I mentioned with him,

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Speaker 5: it's really dark what they're doing because Democrats have made

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Speaker 5: the calculation that if they mess things up as much

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Speaker 5: as possible in the country, just hurt ordinary Americans. Trump

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Speaker 5: will give into what they want. And what they want

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Speaker 5: is not a better military. What they want is not

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Speaker 5: more law enforcement. What they want is more illegals invading

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Speaker 5: the country and fewer criminals going back to where they

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Speaker 5: came from.

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Speaker 4: So Jesse Kelly had a great tweet. He said, Democrats

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Speaker 4: have created three hour weight times at the airport because

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Speaker 4: they don't want illegal aliens deported. That's your messaging. Put

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Speaker 4: it on repeat. I completely agree, So let me repeat

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Speaker 4: it again. Democrats have created three hour weight times at

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Speaker 4: the airport because they don't want illegal aliens deported. They

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Speaker 4: care more about foreigners living illegally in this country than

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Speaker 4: they do about Americans, who have every right to have

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Speaker 4: their airports function properly.

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Speaker 3: But you don't get that.

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Speaker 4: You don't get nice things because they want foreigners to

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Speaker 4: invade this country. I hope that's very clear right now.

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Speaker 3: That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is all right.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, well, I want to talk about Blake had

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Speaker 4: this great story out of Axios, so we have to

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Speaker 4: get to it. So I want to make time for it.

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Speaker 4: The Democrat presidential candidates are a bunch of cluster b

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Speaker 4: be narcissist ya.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Basically, so this was this came out late in the

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Speaker 5: evening yesterday, So it's basically today's stories is Axios, Dems

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Speaker 5: eyeing White House, lean into their childhood traumas, and so basically,

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Speaker 5: if you look at President Trump is such a classic

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Speaker 5: politician in a lot of ways. So when President Trump

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Speaker 5: talks about his family, he's like, oh, my father was

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Speaker 5: a great man, a great businessman. I learned from him,

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Speaker 5: you know, I learned a lot from my other family members.

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Speaker 5: And like he even you know, he talks with his

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Speaker 5: brother even though his brother actually died of alcoholism, he

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Speaker 5: still loves his brother. All that shines through and instead

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Speaker 5: it's this is the first line potential. Twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 5: Democrat presidential candidates are introducing themselves to voters in a

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Speaker 5: striking way by documenting their childhood resentments, family chaos, and

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Speaker 5: fights with their parents. And what stands out to me

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Speaker 5: about all of these, by the way, is they talk

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Speaker 5: about three different candidates and all three of them. I

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Speaker 5: think this matters a lot. All three of them are

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Speaker 5: white guys, and so Josh Shapiro. In his recent book

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Speaker 5: Where We Keep the Light, Shapiro writes that he had

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Speaker 5: a happy childhood but at points an unhappy childhood home.

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Speaker 5: And then it continues that uh.

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Speaker 4: He says his mother, Judy, could be unstable and that

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Speaker 4: he and his siblings believe that quote, if we were good,

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Speaker 4: we could stop the chaos and the yelling.

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 5: And then Jadie pricks and says talks about Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 5: is even more candid in his at times fraught relationship

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Speaker 5: with both parents, who he says left him caught between

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Speaker 5: two worlds and fully accepted by neither. He really leans

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Speaker 5: into this dyslexia thing that he's now used to pick

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Speaker 5: a fight with the President, and he even says this

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Speaker 5: is crazy. He recalls being absent at times during his

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Speaker 5: mother's final struggle with cancer, until she left him a

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Speaker 5: voicemail in two thousand and two telling him that he

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Speaker 5: wanted that if he wanted to see her, he had

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Speaker 5: to do so before Thursday, because that's going to be

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Speaker 5: my last day on earth. She had arranged for assisted

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Speaker 5: suicide at that point, Newsom realized he had been hiding

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Speaker 5: from her and hiding from myself because he did not

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Speaker 5: want to face her dying. And so he and his sister.

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Speaker 5: Then are he and Hillary I'm not sure if that's

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Speaker 5: his sister respouse, but joined their mother on her Yeah,

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Speaker 5: their mother, his sister on her final day. And that's

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Speaker 5: his pitch, that's the memoir that he would want potential voters.

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Speaker 4: Jbterer, who is an heir to the Hyatt fortune, says

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Speaker 4: that you know, he actually has some legitimate gripes because

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Speaker 4: his dad died of a heart attack, surprise, surprise at

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Speaker 4: when he was seven, and then his mom died of

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Speaker 4: alcoholism when he was a teenager. So okay, but then

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Speaker 4: he inherits you know, millions, maybe billions of dollars, and.

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Speaker 3: We're still supposed to relate to his struggles.

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Speaker 4: I think this is very telling because it's so democrat

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Speaker 4: of them where they they're put in the front, they're

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Speaker 4: traumas their struggles. They want to be just like you,

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Speaker 4: the average person, the average joe out there on the street.

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Speaker 4: And so instead of lifting up as Trump does, the

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Speaker 4: fact that he had this wonderful, loving family, that he's

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Speaker 4: very proud of.

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Speaker 3: They want to bring you in into.

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Speaker 4: The you know, break the fourth wall as it were,

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Speaker 4: of the family and tell you how awful their family

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Speaker 4: members are.

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Speaker 5: And I think it's another thing. It's that the Prosian Olympics.

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Speaker 5: It's a pression Olympics. The Democrats have kind of built

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Speaker 5: their entire new ideology. It is a resentment based ideology

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Speaker 5: to the victimhood ideology. And they're very aware if you're

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Speaker 5: a white male, you're at the absolute bottom of their

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Speaker 5: priority stack. So if you are black, or a woman

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Speaker 5: or gay, you kind of just you can raise up

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Speaker 5: and it's just that you're running, Hey, I'm this oppressed group.

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Speaker 5: They don't have anything, so they just have to say

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Speaker 5: I'm mess just like a bunch of you. And we

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Speaker 5: also know, as we we talk about on this show,

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Speaker 5: we have had this bifurcation in American life politically in

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Speaker 5: terms of basically how mentally unwell you are. They're much

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Speaker 5: Democrat voters are much more likely to say that they

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Speaker 5: have a diagnosed mental illness, that they are don't crust anxious.

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Speaker 5: They honestly, I think a lot of them probably aren't,

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Speaker 5: and they say it because they want that status.

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Speaker 4: You saw this with This is part of what fueled

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Speaker 4: the trans contagion is that kids want the attention.

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Speaker 3: They want to be different.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to be what do we call it, heteronormative,

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Speaker 4: the normative. They don't want to be They want to

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Speaker 4: have something that they can complain about online. They want

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Speaker 4: to have a disorder, they want to have a dysfunction,

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Speaker 4: they want to have an anxiety, which is a really

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Speaker 4: sick thing that has been implanted into the public psyche.

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Speaker 4: Ironically at the very bottom of this Axios article, and

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Speaker 4: this is why it was important you brought up. These

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Speaker 4: were three white Democrat men.

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Speaker 3: The one that.

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Speaker 4: Stands out that could be a potential twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 4: candidate for president is New Jersey's editor Corey Booker, who.

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Speaker 5: Describes a far warmer childhood.

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Speaker 4: He's a black man. So the only one of the

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Speaker 4: four highlighted in the Axios article that doesn't complain about

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Speaker 4: his childhood is the black man. You know, it's take

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Speaker 4: of that what you will, but he dedicates, but it

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Speaker 4: stands out. Yeah, he dedicates in his upcoming books Stand

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Speaker 4: to his mother, writing thank you, Mom for giving me

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Speaker 4: a lifetime of transcendent love. I stand because you and

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Speaker 4: dad so love me. Good for him to be honest, like,

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Speaker 4: wait to show up Pritzker, Who's you know, Charlie always

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Speaker 4: affectionately referred to as a guy who was born on

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Speaker 4: third and thought he hit a triple you know. He

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Speaker 4: called him a Nepo baby, that he would never run

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Speaker 4: for president because he can't run. I mean, Charlie had

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Speaker 4: a lot of good and Charlie had a special place

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Speaker 4: in his heart for the Pritzker family because he's a Chicagoan.

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Speaker 4: So he grew up around these people ruining his state

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Speaker 4: and hated them, actually loathed them what they did to

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Speaker 4: his state. And you've got Pritzker, You've got who are

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Speaker 4: the other three? You've got Gavin Newsom, and you've got

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Speaker 4: Joshapiro all complaining, and yet Corey Booker coming up, coming

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Speaker 4: up saying he had a great childhood.

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Speaker 5: It's just really remarkable, and it ends bleak because I

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Speaker 5: don't I don't think it foretells good things for your

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Speaker 5: society when your top leaders their big pitch is I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm just as messed up as you like. We've we've

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Speaker 5: come a long way. It used to be at least

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Speaker 5: you'd have politicians would affect a humble background. Even if okay,

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Speaker 5: you're George W.

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Speaker 5: You grew up, you know, with this like elite wasp family,

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Speaker 5: but actually I'm a folks see Texan, just like you.

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Speaker 5: We've gotten used to that that's part of American life.

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Speaker 5: But now it's like, can you imagine George W. Bush

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Speaker 4: that I think is important to highlight to Lieutenant Colonel

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Speaker 4: Brandon Shaw, who is killed in a terrorist attack, just

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Speaker 4: to I believe it two weeks ago, go now, and

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Speaker 4: I want to hear his story. This is doctor Chase Spears.

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Speaker 4: He's a US Army major retired. You can find him

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Speaker 4: at doctor Chase Spears on x and he's the host

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Speaker 4: of the Finding Your Spine podcast. Welcome to the show,

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Speaker 4: doctor Chase Spears.

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Speaker 10: Andrew, it's great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for the imitation.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely honored to have you. You knew Lieutenant Colonel Shaw,

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Speaker 4: and you wrote a very touching tribute to him when

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Speaker 4: you realized the news that he had been killed. Tell

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Speaker 4: us what your first reaction was and also how you

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Speaker 4: knew him.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it was I was actually at a conference. I

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Speaker 10: was up at Omaha attending an annual conference the Ciceronian Society.

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Speaker 10: It's a group of Christian scholars and thinkers who get

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Speaker 10: together once a year to fellowship. And it was Thursday evening.

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Speaker 10: We were sitting at a dinner and I happened to

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Speaker 10: glance stop my phone and I saw that very picture

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Speaker 10: that you're showing on the screen right now, and I

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Speaker 10: immediately recognize that that's Brandon Shaw. He was my classmate

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Speaker 10: at the US Army's Command Engine Staff College from twenty

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Speaker 10: eighteen through twenty nineteen. That's a course that roughly half

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Speaker 10: of the majors in the Army gets sent to up

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Speaker 10: at Fort Leavenworth, and so we were both just really

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Speaker 10: privileged to be able to attend to that. And Brandon

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Speaker 10: was more than just a classmate. He was the section leader.

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Speaker 10: And it was a no brainer when I observed him

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Speaker 10: in that leadership position. We weren't close in cgs. There

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Speaker 10: are some people you get closer to than others, So

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Speaker 10: I want to be open and honest, you know, we

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Speaker 10: weren't tight, but he was someone who led our section

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Speaker 10: incredibly well. It was a no brainer that he was chosen.

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Speaker 10: That he was someone who believed in excellence. He fully

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Speaker 10: embraced the profession of Arms. He wanted to be a

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Speaker 10: better soldier himself. He wanted us to be better soldiers.

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Speaker 10: He wanted to get as much of the course as

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Speaker 10: he could, and he wanted us to give as much

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Speaker 10: of the course as we could. And so it's been

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Speaker 10: quite some time since we talked, but you never forget

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Speaker 10: the people you train with. And you're showing, of course,

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Speaker 10: the section photo right now, and we go across the

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Speaker 10: army and Brandon wasn't big into social media, but we

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Speaker 10: knew wherever he was, he was going to be doing

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Speaker 10: great things, inspiring people. And Thursday night, I sit there

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Speaker 10: and I happened to glance out my phone in that

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Speaker 10: dinner and I see his photo and my first thought was, well,

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Speaker 10: brand is not a he's not an ex at all.

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Speaker 10: I wonder what's going on with him. And before I

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Speaker 10: could even finish that thought, I saw the writing the

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Speaker 10: victim of the terrorist attack has been identified as Lieutenant

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Speaker 10: Colonel Brandon Shaw Andrew. My heart raced.

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Speaker 2: I was in.

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Speaker 10: I can't even describe what state I was in, so

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Speaker 10: might say it was shock, but my heart was in

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Speaker 10: my throat. And I remember just sitting there reading it

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Speaker 10: over and over and over again, and I had known

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Speaker 10: that there had been an attack earlier in the day.

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Speaker 10: But to see this picture and to know that this

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Speaker 10: man that I had had the privilege of serving with

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Speaker 10: for an eleven month period at the Command in General

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Speaker 10: Staff College, that he was the one who has fallen

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Speaker 10: it hit in an entirely different way. And now I

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Speaker 10: remember my wife looking at me. She could see something

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Speaker 10: was very, very wrong, and she looked at me and said,

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Speaker 10: are you okay? And I just admitted I said no, no,

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Speaker 10: I'm not okay, and I had to get up. I

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Speaker 10: went and found a friend and I said, I need

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Speaker 10: you to go walk with me. And that began a

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Speaker 10: process of just kind of mourning and thinking and struggling

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Speaker 10: through that I'm still going through right now. You know,

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Speaker 10: it was a small, small, small, fractional percentage of what

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Speaker 10: his family is going through. But he touched a lot

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Speaker 10: of lives across the army, and mine was one.

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Speaker 4: Well, doctor Spears, I want to highlight something you wrote.

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Speaker 4: You said at the bottom of your letter reacting to

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Speaker 4: his death. You said, the truth is America's sin of

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Speaker 4: empathy based immigration and justice policy is a betrayal to

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Speaker 4: all veterans. You go on, but please build out that thought,

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Speaker 4: because I think a lot of us relate to it.

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Speaker 10: I feel this deeply, Andrew, and I've written on this

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Speaker 10: in in other forums about what I call the passive

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Speaker 10: betrayal of our global war and terrorism veterans. I served

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Speaker 10: for twenty years. Brandon had served longer than I had.

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Speaker 10: He was approaching retirement himself. I retired roughly two years ago,

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Speaker 10: and he was almost there himself, looking forward to a

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Speaker 10: great life, a well deserved rest, and spending time with

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Speaker 10: his family and moving on to the next chapter. And

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Speaker 10: I think back to the fact that they sent us

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Speaker 10: for twenty years, Andrew, for twenty years. It was the

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Speaker 10: Bush doctrine, the Neo con doctrine of you fight them

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Speaker 10: over there so you won't have to fight them over here.

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Speaker 10: You leave your families and your loved ones and your

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Speaker 10: lives and you go fight them over there, because that's

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Speaker 10: the trade off we make. You won't have to fight

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Speaker 10: them over here. And that's why I told myself time

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Speaker 10: and time again, miss birthday after miss birthday after missed anniversary,

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Speaker 10: after years of miss time with my sons growing up,

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Speaker 10: with me being deployed or in training for deployment, and Meanwhile,

871
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 10: we had the empathetic immigration policy that was based in

872
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 10: we must have empathy for these people, we must let

873
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 10: them in, and we have a justice system that must

874
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 10: let people off early. This terrorist who shot Brandon rightfully

875
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 10: was supposed to be in bars through twenty twenty nine.

876
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 10: What happened He got off early, a loophole, an empathy

877
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 10: based application of justice that prioritized his feelings and his

878
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 10: life circumstance over the reality of the criminal and terrorist

879
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 10: sympathizer that he was who immigrated to this nation. He

880
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 10: came from Sierra Leone. Did he belong here? Of course

881
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 10: he didn't. And it's not the first time we had

882
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 10: the shooting in DC similar thing. This was a terrorist

883
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 10: brought over from Afghanistan. We fought them over there, and

884
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 10: then we shiploaded them right over here. We brought the

885
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 10: threat home. And Andrew is a global war on terrorism veteran.

886
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 10: I consider it a high betrayal. It's something I've got

887
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 10: a really big chip on my shoulder about.

888
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: M hmm Blake.

889
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I don't know that I could

890
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 5: put it better than him. It's that we basically the billion,

891
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 5: the trillions of dollars we spent the thousands of lives

892
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: we lost on missions on missions abroad where not only

893
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 5: did they frankly I think end and failure, but I

894
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 5: don't even know that success was possible because they refused

895
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 5: to define any real victory. They were just open ended commitments.

896
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 5: They went to Middle America and they said, step up,

897
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 5: go abroad.

898
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: We need you.

899
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 5: By the way, we don't know how this will end

900
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 5: in victory. A lot of us in DC are making

901
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 5: a lot of money off of this because we have

902
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 5: consultancies and think tanks and no skin in the game

903
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 5: for us. And then the final betrayal and climax of

904
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 5: it is will feel better if we take all of

905
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 5: the problems we created abroad and we're gonna bring them

906
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 5: here and again, we're not going to take the harms

907
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 5: onto ourselves. We're going to settle them in your towns.

908
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 5: We're going to make you pay all the externalities for

909
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 5: the bad decisions we make. And this just drives it home.

910
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 5: But there's tragedies like this that are happening every day.

911
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 5: Not all of them are veterans. Some of them are

912
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 5: just innocent people who are killed by these migrants and

913
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 5: then or ruin public schools, ruined neighborhoods.

914
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: What's your message to politicians when it comes to even

915
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 4: legal immigration.

916
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 10: Ted Cruz said that his philosophy and immigration is very simple,

917
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 10: that legal is good, illegal as bad. Andrew I can't

918
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 10: discree more. The good kind of immigration is the kind

919
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 10: that brings the right people here who want to some light,

920
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 10: who want to be productive of Americans, who want to

921
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 10: abide by our ways of life, and who want to

922
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 10: perpetuate that. And there are a lot of people who've

923
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 10: come in legally who have no business here, who have

924
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 10: shared nothing in the American values.

925
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: That's bad.

926
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 10: That's bad immigration policy and this bad justice policy to

927
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 10: let them out over and over again. Brandon should be

928
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 10: with us today. But you know, one good thing is

929
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 10: we know his faith, and we don't mourn is those

930
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 10: who have no hope. And so there's the one constellation

931
00:46:59,520 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 10: that we have.

932
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Speaker 4: Amen, doctor Chase Spears, thank you for joining us and

933
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: for a tribute to your friend and your fallen comrade

934
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 4: there and we mourn his death, but we know that

935
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Speaker 4: he is a Christian and he's with the Lord now.

936
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: God bless you, sir. Thank you for that really touching, genuinely.

937
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 10: Hey man, God bless you, gentlemen, Thank you.

938
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Speaker 3: God bless you.

939
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Speaker 4: Before he ever stepped behind a microphone, Charlie understood something important.

940
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Speaker 4: Leadership begins with learning. He didn't chase a diploma or

941
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 4: a title. He chased truth. Through Hillsdale College's free online courses.

942
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 4: He studied the great works of the Classics, the principles

943
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 4: of the American Founding, and the life changing truths of

944
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 4: the Bible. Those ideas didn't just inform him, they shaped

945
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 4: his character, strengthened his convictions, and prepared him for the

946
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 4: challenges ahead of. One of the courses he took was

947
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: The Genesis Story, taught by Hillsdale professor doctor Justin Jackson.

948
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 4: This free online course explores the relationship between God and man,

949
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 4: what happens when that relationship is broken, and the path

950
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 4: toward reconciliation. It's a real college course, rigorous, thoughtful, and

951
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 4: accessible to anyone willing to learn. You can take the

952
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Speaker 4: very same course completely free. Grow stronger in your faith,

953
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: gain clarity about humanity and your place in the world.

954
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Speaker 4: Prepare yourself for a life with courage and conviction. Visit

955
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Speaker 4: Charlie for Hillsdale dot com to enroll today. That's Charlie

956
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 4: for Hillsdale dot Com. Learn Deeply, Lead boldly, carry it forward.

957
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 4: We have Jack Pisobic in the studio.

958
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 3: You're in Phoenix. Welcome to Phoenix.

959
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 11: I'm always good to be here and in the Man

960
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 11: studio it is.

961
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: It's great to have you and we wanted to do

962
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: a quick segment on this because you why are you

963
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: in Phoenix?

964
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 3: Jet?

965
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 11: I am in Phoenix because I am holding an event tonight.

966
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 11: I'm not sure how we're branding it because we've had

967
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 11: some We've gone back and forth with the with the

968
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 11: event or doing a TPOs event tonight at ASU with

969
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 11: myself and the lovely and talented Blake.

970
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 5: Nef it's gonna be so I don't know why. I

971
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 5: am not sure either.

972
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: Very risky, very risky move. But no, I'm excited for

973
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: you guys both to do this.

974
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: It's no no better way to honor Charlie than to

975
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 4: take it right into the campus.

976
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 11: So I think we're trying to pick up I think

977
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 11: it's pick up the mic. I don't know if it's

978
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 11: a debate me, you know, brand I think it's pick

979
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 11: up the mic.

980
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: Pick up the mic, Yeah, I mean, but there will

981
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 4: be debates I'm sure, and I hope Blake will be

982
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: dropping uh some some historical facts and knowledge correcting the

983
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 4: record on some things. So excuse me, I want to

984
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: just there's also this other brewing controversy. All of a

985
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: sudden over the weekend, I get all these email inquiries

986
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 4: from press outlets saying, please tell us about the other tour,

987
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: the Democrat tour that got canceled. Yeah, so they're they're

988
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: acting like we had something to do with this, which

989
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: is really irritating. So yeah, go ahead.

990
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, So there's this there's this other competing tour that

991
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 11: is going on, which I didn't even know about, you know,

992
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 11: kind of all this, and I'm very bad. I've been

993
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 11: sort of focused on Operation Rand and all this. But

994
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 11: this is what you know, I've been I've been smartened

995
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 11: up on it. That it's called the you the un

996
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 11: America Tour. Destiny's part of it. There's another, you know,

997
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 11: another group of individuals that are part of it. And

998
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 11: originally it was going to be that both of us

999
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 11: were going to be holding outdoor events on ASU's campus

1000
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 11: at the same time. And so that's one of the

1001
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 11: reasons that I think that's probably one of the reasons

1002
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 11: what they wanted to call me, get Blake out there,

1003
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 11: you know, sort of say hey, we're you know, we're

1004
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 11: holding these It's called bracketing, right, so you're bracketing each

1005
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 11: other and you know, counterprogramming each other whatever, and maybe

1006
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 11: some debates.

1007
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 5: Happen, who knows.

1008
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 11: And then this was interesting because you were getting those

1009
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 11: media inquiries. But actually what happened last week is something

1010
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 11: that I think changed this and that's why we weren't

1011
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 11: able to promote it the way that I'd originally wanted to.

1012
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 11: We'll still be there, we'll still be holding the event,

1013
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 11: but our outdoor permit also was not approved by ASU.

1014
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 11: So they're running around trying to say, oh, you know,

1015
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 11: Turning Point canceled, and Erica had something to do with

1016
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 11: it because he was doing.

1017
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: It because.

1018
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 11: And actually, yes, yeah, and so what actually happened is

1019
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 11: ours I think both were not approved.

1020
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: Both were not approved, but they're going to be flexed.

1021
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 11: So we were able to flex cause we're you know,

1022
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 11: we don't give up, so we were able to flex

1023
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 11: and adapt.

1024
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 5: You know, and we're used to the rules of these things.

1025
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 11: And now we're doing an indoor event and it's going

1026
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 11: to be the you know it's gonna be tonight at six.

1027
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: Well, so I got an inquiry from one of the

1028
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: local papers here going like, did you guys have a

1029
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 4: hand in canceling their event? I go like, this is

1030
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 4: the statement, no, but they would sure love you to

1031
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: think that we did. I was like, welcome to university bureaucracy.

1032
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 3: They canceled oar event. Yes, and they cancel.

1033
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 4: So anyways, this group which is I mean, listen, I

1034
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 4: don't even want to give them too much like publicity

1035
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 4: because they're they're being obnoxious and rude and vulgar to

1036
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: get attention, all right, But like I'm just going to

1037
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 4: show you this is them out. They came to the

1038
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 4: HQ this weekend right here, right here, and flip they

1039
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 4: were flipping off the memorial picture of Charlie. So show

1040
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 4: that image. I don't know what image it is. It

1041
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 4: doesn't have a number on it. Guys, Oh there it is.

1042
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: So that's them. It's just really good people here.

1043
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1044
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 4: So Charlie's assassinated in cold blood, doing a free speech

1045
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 4: event on a college campus, and you have the gall

1046
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: to come up and flip off his sign that we

1047
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 4: have in front of the HQ as a memorial to him.

1048
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 4: That's the kind of people that we're dealing with. So

1049
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 4: when then they then accuse us of blocking their event,

1050
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: it's all garbage. We didn't block their event, don't. I

1051
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: don't even know who these people are. We don't have

1052
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 4: enough attention to what you're doing to block your event. Okay,

1053
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 4: like we don't care enough. Go do your thing, go,

1054
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: you know, be vulgar on your own time. We're gonna

1055
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 4: do our thing.

1056
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 11: And by the way, by the way, I love this

1057
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 11: because this is the left who has been championing deplatforming

1058
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 11: and cancel culture for like a decade, and now suddenly

1059
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 11: they're going, oh, no, our event was. I mean, do

1060
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 11: you have any idea what it's like being a conservative?

1061
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 11: You have any idea how Turning Point had to fight

1062
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 11: and tooth and nail and scrape and scrap the what

1063
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 11: Charlie and Eyler did for so many years just to

1064
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 11: appear on campus. How many times there, and that the

1065
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 11: teables get thrown over everything.

1066
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 4: So this is your friendly terrain where all universities prefer

1067
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: the progressives, and you have the gall to think that

1068
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: we have the power, you know, on enemy terrain to

1069
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: get your event canceled. That is what we call main

1070
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: character syndrome, where you think everything revolves around you.

1071
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 3: We don't think about you. That's the whole point.

1072
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 11: So anyways, actually we were trying to get our event approved, which.

1073
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 4: So we had to pivot to Welcome to the big Leagues.

1074
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 4: All right, So here you go, let's throw up an image.

1075
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 4: Throw it up again. This is a Jack and Blake.

1076
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 4: They're gonna be pick up the mic, right, throw it up.

1077
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 4: I gotta see Blake.

1078
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 5: It's because, uh, and he said, I need a headshot

1079
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 5: of you. And I said, studio, do you have a

1080
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 5: head shot of me? And they said no, And so

1081
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 5: I had to go and hastily shoot a photo of

1082
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 5: myself against the wall. They shopped it advertably, but I

1083
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: I don't exactly. It looks like a mugshot.

1084
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

1085
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Speaker 4: Third person is beautiful, your skin tone is balanced. Everything

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Speaker 4: looks fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: So this is gonna be your first time Blake doing

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Speaker 4: what Charlie did.

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Speaker 5: Really, I mean, it's it is a huge it's a

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Speaker 5: huge responsibility. I can say honestly, it's not I You

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Speaker 5: guys know me. I'm a more shy person. I'm more

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Speaker 5: away from the linelight. I like to argue with people

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Speaker 5: in like a telegram chat or in the office. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I like I like small intimate arrangements. I'm not a

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Speaker 5: guy who wants to stand up in front of or

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Speaker 5: sit for that matter, in front of one hundred people

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Speaker 5: or a thousand people. But Charlie was like that. Charlie

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Speaker 5: was a guy. He didn't think anything of Oh, ten

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Speaker 5: million people will see this on Fox News, a hundred

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00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: million people will see this on TikTok. He was a

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Speaker 5: guy who wanted to be in the arena because that

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Speaker 5: was his mission to change things. And Blake I was

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Speaker 5: happy to help him with that. He would I was

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00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 5: happy he would say, Blake, what's our good talking point

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00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 5: on the border, on marriage, on anything. I was so

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00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 5: happy to help him with that. And because of what

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00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 5: he had to say, he changed the world. And as

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Speaker 5: we know, a murderer had to silence him for what

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Speaker 5: he was going to say.

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Speaker 11: And that's why and I wanted to I wanted to

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Speaker 11: address that as well, because to say that in and

1113
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 11: you know, we'll we'll go into the story more later tonight.

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Speaker 11: But that for the sort of tour that never was

1115
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 11: six months ago. You would actually help Charlie prepare for

1116
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 11: that tour with so many arguments and potential you know,

1117
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 11: comebacks and data points and and Charlie had been going

1118
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 11: through this like training session of getting ready to go

1119
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Speaker 11: out there and you know, kind of get into the

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Speaker 11: intellectual ring. Yeah, he had the binder and and so

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Speaker 11: now it's just like there's all these debates that that

1122
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Speaker 11: never happened. But Blake, you have that you have that

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Speaker 11: knowledge because you were directly working I mean, we all

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Speaker 11: talked to Charlie, but you directly work with him on it,

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Speaker 11: and you know, I feel like I feel like with

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Speaker 11: you picking up the mic, it really is that the

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Speaker 11: direct I to what Charlie was planning to do.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I certainly hope, so I hope. I hope

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Speaker 5: I am to put too much, I hope, but I

1130
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Speaker 5: hope I am worthy of the example that I know

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Speaker 5: I'm not. I am not Charlie's caliber.

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Speaker 3: On this, I am. But you'll get better as you

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Speaker 3: do it, hopefully.

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Speaker 5: And that's what was. That's what I mean. I was

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Speaker 5: you guys threw me into the threw me to the wolves,

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Speaker 5: talking to a bunch of I hope school as we

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Speaker 5: visited the other person That's what I had to talk about.

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Speaker 5: I said, Charlie was a man who he succeeded a

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Speaker 5: lot because he failed a lot. He when you see

1140
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Speaker 5: every failure as a chance to learn and get better,

1141
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 5: that is the secret weapon to becoming a huge force

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Speaker 5: in American life.

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Speaker 4: So you guys there tonight, pick up the mic at

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Speaker 4: Andrews sent you. All right, without further ado, we have

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Speaker 4: har Meat Dylan here at the Justice Department joining us.

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Speaker 4: Now there's a big case before the Supreme Court and

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Speaker 4: she's gonna explain it all to us. Harmey, it's great

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Speaker 4: to see you.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for having me today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, please tell us about this case.

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Speaker 4: I've been watching it from AFAR and it's now oral

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Speaker 4: arguments start today.

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Speaker 9: We had the oral argument. It was actually more than

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Speaker 9: two hours long this morning, and I was privileged to

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Speaker 9: be there. I co authored the United States as brief

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Speaker 9: in this case from the Civil Rights Division. It was

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Speaker 9: argued by one of our co authors, the Solicitor General,

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Speaker 9: who was an amikus supporting the lower court ruling in

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Speaker 9: the Fifth Circuit, and the name of the case is

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Speaker 9: Watson versus Republican National Committee. The Republican National Committee sued

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Speaker 9: Mississippi over its law that allows ballots to be received

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Speaker 9: and counted up to five business days after the federal

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Speaker 9: election day, which is the first Tuesday after the first

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Speaker 9: Monday in November nationwide. Now, Andrew, as you know and

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Speaker 9: your viewers know, election day now means election weeks, election

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Speaker 9: months in some parts of our country. It's not an

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Speaker 9: election day anymore. And so that's really the issue before

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Speaker 9: the court. Does election day mean the final day that

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Speaker 9: states can receive these ballots is election day? That's what

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Speaker 9: the lower court ruled. We're asking for that to be affirmed.

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Speaker 9: Each of the nine justices. As unusual, I've sat through

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Speaker 9: many oral arguments. All of the justices asked questions in

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Speaker 9: this case, and it was very lively. First of all,

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Speaker 9: in Mississippi's Solicitor General did a great job trying to

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Speaker 9: defend Mississippi law. But I think Paul Clement, the former

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Speaker 9: Solicitor General, he argued for the Republican National Committee, and

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Speaker 9: I think he had the better of the arguments. It's

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Speaker 9: the argument that we're supporting effectively. And then our solicter

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Speaker 9: General came in and talked about some of the United

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Speaker 9: States's positions on these issues. And so it's caused chaos

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Speaker 9: now and a lot of people feel uncertainty and a

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Speaker 9: lack of confidence in the outcome of our elections because

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Speaker 9: you see the results flip, you see certain numbers on

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Speaker 9: election day, and then in some states like California, they

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Speaker 9: can keep receiving these ballots for weeks after the election

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Speaker 9: and they don't even eight states don't even require a postmark.

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Speaker 9: And the Postal SERVI also tells us these days they

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Speaker 9: don't post.

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Speaker 2: Mark all the mail.

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Speaker 4: Hermit just really quick, you said some states don't require

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Speaker 4: a postmark.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 9: Eight states, eight states don't require a postmark, and the

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Speaker 9: Postal service itself says they no longer bother to postmark

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Speaker 9: all the mail. So how do we know that these

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Speaker 9: ballots were duly cast? And secondly, you know, the rest

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Speaker 9: of the world we condemned for being not as efficient

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Speaker 9: and as committed to republican or democracy form of government.

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Speaker 2: As we are.

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Speaker 9: The rest of the world has election results on election

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Speaker 9: day itself, Even countries that we consider to be not

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Speaker 9: very civilized do that. We're one of the places where

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Speaker 9: we're I think, ignoring federal law. So the statutes in

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Speaker 9: question before the court go back to eighteen forty five,

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Speaker 9: and there was a vigorous discussion about the history of

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Speaker 9: the Civil War when there were certain unusual procedures put

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Speaker 9: into place to allow proxy voting and battlefield voting and

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Speaker 9: all of that. And we can always have exceptions to

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Speaker 9: our laws, of course. So for example, there's a federal

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Speaker 9: statute that specifically covers overseas voters, and that's one of

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Speaker 9: the statutes that I administer here. It's called UOKAVA. So

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Speaker 9: where the federal government creates certain special rules, that is

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01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 9: not an issue. But where states are making up rules

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Speaker 9: that make it looser and looser and looser, and we

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01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 9: don't have an election day anymore, that's the problem. And

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Speaker 9: so one other interesting thing to note about this argument.

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Speaker 9: A case came up several times. This is Missippi. This

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Speaker 9: is not Mississippi's first trip to the court over the

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 9: date of the election. In nineteen ninety seven, they had

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Speaker 9: a case called Foster versus Love, in which they had

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Speaker 9: an open primary in Mississippi, and if you won the

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 9: majority in the open primary, including in a federal race,

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01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 9: that was the end of it. There was no general election.

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Speaker 9: And in that case, the United States Supreme Court held

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01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 9: unanimously in nineteen ninety seven that that was inconsistent with

1245
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 9: the very same federal statutes that we're talking about here.

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 9: There has to be a general election, it has to

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01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 9: be on election day. And when you're allowing ballots to

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Speaker 9: keep trickling in for months and weeks afterwards, that's not appropriate.

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Speaker 5: Harmy, do we have a do we have good numbers

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Speaker 5: on the scale, like in in a state, what percent

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Speaker 5: or what number of ballots are typically coming in late?

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Speaker 5: And do we have any examples where there's been a

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Speaker 5: very suspiciously high number of these postmarked on election day

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Speaker 5: or no postmark at all ballots?

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Speaker 9: Now, I don't think that this case turns on suspiciousness

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01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 9: of the behavior or anything, but it does vary. Some

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01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 9: states vote entirely by absentee ballot. Now there's a couple

1258
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 9: of states that are more rural in character. There used

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Speaker 9: to be an excuse requirement and states that's been eliminated

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01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 9: in many states, particularly during COVID. So in fact, one

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Speaker 9: of the things that was mentioned during this oral argument

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Speaker 9: is that you know, there may have been a couple

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Speaker 9: of different outliers during the Supreme Court era where this

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01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 9: federal law was passed and using the same kind of

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Speaker 9: doctrinal analysis that the Court used in the Bruin decision

1266
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 9: regarding Second Amendment rights. The argument by the Republican National

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01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 9: Committee and this Lister General's Office arguing our brief, was

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01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 9: that we should use that kind of textual analysis to

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01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 9: look at what the Congress in eighteen fifty four meant

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01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 9: when it passed this bucket of laws, and it couldn't

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Speaker 9: possibly have meant that you can have absentee balloting trickling

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01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 9: in for weeks after the election. That does not provide

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01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 9: the finality or certainty that is required, and that's the

1274
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 9: basis for Congress to have passed these laws in the

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01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 9: first place, creating a federal election day for federal elections.

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Speaker 9: But we do see some states where it's almost all as,

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01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 9: where it's all absentee balloting, and then we see some

1278
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 9: states where the numbers vary. And in many jurisdictions today

1279
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 9: after COVID, you can't even go in and cast your

1280
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 9: ballot in person where those states used to allow it.

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Speaker 9: They have voting centers, and there's all kinds of problems

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 9: with that. I saw that in person in Arizona, where

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01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 9: you walk into a precinct and you print up a

1284
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 9: ballot and maybe they had the wrong paper there, or

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 9: they have the paper doesn't print correctly, or they have

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01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 9: it loaded the correct poll book, and so on and

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01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 9: so forth. Wouldn't it be great if we could just

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01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 9: have the finality of people voting on or near the

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01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 9: election day, but not after the election day, and have

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 9: the votes counted quickly.

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Speaker 5: Well, it really does feel like there's two layers to this.

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01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 5: As you say, there's the layer of is there actual

1293
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 5: fraud that this enables, but it's also to make people

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01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 5: to make the system work. People need to feel like

1295
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 5: it is working. And when you have all these little bits,

1296
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 5: they just make you raise your eyebrow. A ballot can

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01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 5: come in after election day, they got to print it out.

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Speaker 5: There's all this when everything it adds all this friction

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Speaker 5: that does we both believe, make it easier to do fraud.

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Speaker 5: But even if it's not happening, it makes people distrust

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Speaker 5: the process and that makes them check out, That makes

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01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 5: them get more radical and how they approach you.

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01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: If you don't want us to think that there's election fraud,

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01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: then stop doing a bunch of crazy stuff that leads

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Speaker 3: us to believe there could be election fraud.

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Speaker 9: It's very absolutely, I mean sixteen states have these laws

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 9: that allow ballots to be counted days and weeks after

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 9: the elec and they're the most populous states in many cases. California,

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01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 9: where I used to live, is one, and there are

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01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 9: other states like this, and so you know, you have

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01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 9: to wonder and look at those trends and see why

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01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 9: is that. Why is it necessary for us to have

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01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 9: a three week extension period for election for ballots to

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01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 9: be received and counted. It doesn't seem necessary, and it

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 9: does seem inconsistent with the concept of election day. So

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01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 9: the justices were very, very engaged. You could tell where

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01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 9: most of them are going with their questions, and it

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01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 9: was a rarely do you see an oral argument go

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01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 9: on for more than two hours, but literally we had

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Speaker 9: the privilege of seeing three of the top advocates in

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01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 9: the country argue this, and I think they all did

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01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 9: a good job. But the law seems to support thinking.

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Speaker 5: Are you thinking we could get the rare nine to

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 5: zero on a case that is getting any attention?

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01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 9: This is not going to be a nine? Oh, I

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01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 9: think I can very confidently predict that. I don't believe

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 9: in gambling, but I think there's a there's definitely you know,

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01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 9: three justices who were skeptical of the government's position being

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01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 9: a United States government's position and the Republican National Committee's position.

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Speaker 9: And I think there were several justices who were clearly

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01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 9: skeptical of the concept that under Mississippi law, Mississippi says

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 9: the ballot is properly cast if you put it in

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01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 9: the mail on election day, giving no reference to you know,

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01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 9: being accepted at the election headquarters, which is what the

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01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 9: historical meaning was, that it be in the hands of

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 9: election officials by a certain date.

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01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: And so.

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01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 9: I feel like I could count some of the solid

1339
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 9: votes to support, but you know, you never know until

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 9: you see. And I think that this is one of

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01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 9: those cases where even the justices who might agree on

1342
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 9: the conclusion may have different paths to get there. Some

1343
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 9: may not want to go as far as others on this.

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01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 9: And there was some spirited questioning as to whether there's

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01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 9: something such as a too early early deadline for early voting.

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01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 9: I mean, that's been an issue that many people have debated,

1347
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 9: and Justice Alito asked a question about that, and I

1348
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 9: don't think you need to reach that question to agree

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01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 9: that there should definitely be an endpoint to it, and

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01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 9: that should be the federal election day set by Congress

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01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 9: for all federal elections.

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01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, so if the government is successful here, what

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 4: are the ramifications?

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01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 3: What do we get?

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01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 9: So there are sixteen states that have this post election

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01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 9: day ballot receipt where there are mail ballots, those would

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01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 9: all be inconsistent with federal law and struck down and

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01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 9: that's huge. And so that would mean that there's an

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01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 9: election day which is the last day by which ballots

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01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 9: can be received by the government and now to be

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01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 9: determined for the future. Is there too early date?

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Speaker 5: I think that there are other kind of things.

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01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 4: I mean, you think back to you think back to

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01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 4: twenty twenty when we were getting all this Hunter Biden stuff.

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01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: There was already ballots being cast while that debate was

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01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: being had, at least by part of the population, and

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 4: part of the population got it completely censored from them.

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01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 4: But all of that stuff in the final month of

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01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 4: the presidential election, it was like we didn't know how

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01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 4: many people had made cast their vote before they'd even

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01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 4: heard the full that's right information.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 9: And you know, if I can just add one more point.

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01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 9: One of the very interesting things that these folks were

1375
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 9: looking at is Mississippi. Technically you can recall your ballots.

1376
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 9: You can put it in the mail and then you

1377
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 9: can ask FedEx or you can ask the US Postal

1378
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 9: Service to not deliver it. And that's a huge problem

1379
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 9: for Mississippi, and several of the justices argued about that.

1380
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 9: So we'll be waiting on the edge of our seats

1381
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 9: to see when we can get this ruling. It has

1382
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 9: to come out by June rather.

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01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 4: I have so many other Scotus questions for you her meet,

1384
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 4: the racial jerry mandering question, the birthright citizenship.

1385
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 3: We've got a lot of stuff pending.

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01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 9: Happy to come talk to you about.

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01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 4: All right, good, we're going to have to get to it.

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01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 4: Har Meat Dylan, you're doing a fan fantastic job. Thank

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01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 4: you for making time for us today after oral arguments.

1390
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 4: You sat through two hours of them, so very very

1391
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 4: good update. Hopefully you're right, Maybe we get a six'

1392
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Speaker 4: three here and at least part of the clown show

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Speaker 4: that is our federal elections will be.

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Speaker 3: Rectified we certainly.

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Speaker 5: Can it'll be.

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Speaker 4: Amazing that'd be. Amazing Harmy, dylan thank you so. Much

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Speaker 3: what do you got for?

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Speaker 5: Us we GOT i mean we were just speaking in you,

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Speaker 5: know the few segments ago ABOUT us. Soldiers they're playing

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01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 5: with their lives because of what our leaders have deliberately

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01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 5: chosen to, do because they bring the world's problems. Here

1424
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 5: they dump the world's problems onto our people because they

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01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 5: don't care about. That they don't care about, them or

1426
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 5: they actively hate. Them so we have the latest of these,

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 5: killings illegal immigrants who should not be, here just heinously

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01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 5: murdering Innocent americans for basically no. Reason the latest one

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01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,879
Speaker 5: is out Of, chicago a student At Loyola University, Chicago Sheridan.

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01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 5: Gorman she was shot and killed while walking with friends

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01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,839
Speaker 5: Along Lake. Michigan. Uh and now they say the authority

1432
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 5: say her killer was in THE us, illegally which means

1433
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 5: specificity come. IN i believe he came, in they say

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01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 5: Under President, biden you, know walks across the border easily

1435
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 5: could have been turned, around could have been. Rejected we

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01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 5: did not need to let him. In but he followed

1437
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 5: the same process that literally millions of other people did

1438
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 5: because they saw it. On they saw guides on, TikTok

1439
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 5: they saw guides online that, said come to THE, us

1440
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 5: say the right, Words they'll give you a ticket somewhere

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01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 5: in THE, us and you get to live here until

1442
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,680
Speaker 5: you're day in. Court and if you blow off that

1443
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 5: day in, court and nobody's gonna hunt you down. Either

1444
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 5: and so another, psycho another criminal in THE us murdered

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01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 5: another Innocent. American and this will not be the last

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01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 5: story like this we're going to, tell because we know

1447
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 5: there are millions of people like this. Guy, yeah SO

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01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 5: dhs Says.

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01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,839
Speaker 4: Medina medina came up to her while wearing a mask

1450
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 4: and armed with a, gun and she attempted to. Flee

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01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 4: he fired his gun and shot. Her gorman was shot

1452
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 4: and pronounced dead at the. Scene what can you even

1453
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 4: add to?

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01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 5: That so keep in mind right now we Have americans

1455
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 5: in airports across the country waiting hours to get on.

1456
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 5: Planes not because of a software, malfunction not because of a.

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01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 5: Storm they are waiting Because democrats have, said we are DEFUNDING,

1458
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 5: ice we are refusing to fund the, government refusing to

1459
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 5: FUND dhs until you guys ease up on. Deportations and

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01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 5: the people they want to keep from getting. Deported are

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01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 5: people like this. Guy they want people Like Jose Medina

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01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 5: medina to stay in The United states so that they

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01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 5: can put on, masks grab, guns go and hold up

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 5: women like shearity try to rob. Them their goal long

1465
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,440
Speaker 5: term is to get amnesty for people like This amnesty

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01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 5: so that they want to give this guy amnesty so

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 5: that he can get, citizenship and even if he's in

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01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 5: prison for this, murder even if he's on death. Row,

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 5: Remember democrats think people in prison should be able to.

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Speaker 5: Vote they want to be able to give him the

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Speaker 5: ballot so that he can cast votes that For, democrats

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Speaker 5: and they.

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01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 4: Will that is what they want population for the census

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01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 4: to get more Congressional they.

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 5: Want him counting in the. Census they want they think

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01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 5: he is More american Than Sheridan.

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01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 4: Gorman and this we would be remiss if we didn't

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01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 4: remember this gem from twenty twenty. Five this Is GOVERNOR.

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01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 4: Jb Pritzker Chicago, lakeside bragging about how safe his city.

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01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 4: Is by the, way this is like the one corner

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01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 4: Of chicago that he could claim this, from but now

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01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 4: he can't Because Sheridan gorman was killed there By venezuelan

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01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 4: illegal cut Fourteen.

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01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: Lakefront, Path Lakefront, trail absolutely gorgeous.

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 10: Walking around here early, morning.

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 2: The South Lakefront trail south, side just.

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01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 8: Gorgeous look at that overpass over Lake Shore, drive really

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01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 8: beautiful and of.

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01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 7: Course facilities for everybody and a great right.

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01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 5: Friend there's also a photo out. THERE i don't know

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Speaker 5: if we have, it But Governor pritzker he went and

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 5: he visited a memorial that, was you, know an impromptu

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01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 5: memorial that was put up To Alex pritty And Renee

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 5: good after, That so he cares about. Them he does

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01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 5: not care about a. Woman he has an issue to

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01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,559
Speaker 5: statement about it as far AS i, know at least

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01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 5: as of this, morning like. Doesn't it's not a it's

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01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 5: not a priority For. Democrat the priority For democrats is

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 5: to make sure that killers like this come Into, america

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Speaker 5: stay In, america kill Actual, americans not to.

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: Blackpill but there's another crazy.

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01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 4: Story this one's out Of, seattle and This seattle man

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 4: shot and killed an eight month Pregnant Korean american woman

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01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 4: and nearly killed her husband when they were driving to.

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01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 4: Work and he he's been found not guilty by reason of.

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01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 5: This is at least this, guy as far AS i,

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01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 5: know is not any. Illegal, no he's a homegrown problem

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01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 5: that we, have AND i we shouldn't say found, guilty

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01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 5: not guilty by reason of his. Sentity it was a plea.

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Speaker 5: Deal so the STATE i read about this. Yesterday this

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Speaker 5: murder happened three years. Ago they spent three years evaluating this.

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Speaker 5: Guy they were really on the ball about, that and

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Speaker 5: then after three years of, waiting they do a plea

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Speaker 5: deal to, say, oh he's, insane so he gets to

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Speaker 5: go to a mental hospital where years from, now we're

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Speaker 5: guaranteed you of the at least some left WING ngo

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Speaker 5: is going to give him free representation to, argue, oh

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Speaker 5: that he should be released he. Needs, yeah probably a

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Speaker 5: government FUNDED ngo will go out to argue that that

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Speaker 5: guy should be free. Again and this is happening in

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Speaker 5: left wing jurisdictions across THE. Us another case just like

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Speaker 5: that one happened in Northern. Virginia it's genuinely frustrating because

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Speaker 5: when you talk to Ordinary americans who only follow the

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Speaker 5: news a, bit you have to describe what the left is,

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Speaker 5: doing and what they are doing is so, insane so,

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Speaker 5: evil so, depraved so messed up that they will not

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Speaker 5: believe you because you sound. Nuts we saw this at

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Speaker 5: the trans. Thing when you, say, oh, yeah your teachers

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Speaker 5: can be talking to your, kids convince them that the opposite.

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Speaker 5: Sex they can start putting them on, hormones start referring

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Speaker 5: to them by a new, name a new sex without telling.

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Speaker 5: You and if you object to this in some, states

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Speaker 5: they can take those kids away from their. Parents you

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Speaker 5: would tell people about this and they would think you

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Speaker 5: are a gibbering. Madman and it's just like this with.

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Speaker 5: Crime they will think you are a gibbering madman if

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Speaker 5: you say what their priority is every, day which is

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Speaker 5: allowing illegal allowing foreign crazy criminal gang members to come

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Speaker 5: To america and kill, you and then they will move

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Speaker 5: heaven and earth.

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Speaker 4: To keep them in The United states or to keep

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Speaker 4: repeat offenders on the streets they are with an. Insanity,

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Speaker 4: please by the, way where is it written that society

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Speaker 4: is obligated to keep deranged insane killers on the street

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Speaker 4: until they die of old.

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Speaker 5: Age we are like A it's like we're building our

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Speaker 5: own funeral pyre as a.

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Speaker 4: COUNTRY i hope you enjoyed, This ending the show in

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Speaker 4: a high, Note hopefully we have some positive news, Tomorrow

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Speaker 4: we'll see you.

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