WEBVTT - Operation Epic Fury

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show. March second,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six. We are in day three of the

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<v Speaker 2>strikes against Iran, Operation Epic Fury, Welcome Blake. We had

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<v Speaker 2>an eventful weekend, to say the least, Yes, an eventful weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>We came in. We did an emergency special live stream

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday. Tens and tens of thousands of people saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you guys for supporting the show. We did

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<v Speaker 2>our best to honor Charlie. What Charlie would say in

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<v Speaker 2>these situations. We obviously don't know exactly because he's not

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<v Speaker 2>with us, but we have some good indications because we

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<v Speaker 2>walked alongside Charlie in the summer strikes, Operation Midnight Hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw how he deliberated through those very tough decisions,

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<v Speaker 2>those very tough back room calls, those private conversations, and

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<v Speaker 2>then what he would say publicly. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>we did a good job of that, got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of great feedback. And you know, here's the bottom line is,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know how this is going to turn out.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know what's going to happen in the coming days, weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>months ahead. We don't know if this is going to

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately be a success or if history will judge this

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<v Speaker 2>to be a failure. But I will say that again.

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<v Speaker 2>The US military's incredible. I just would say precision. Their

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<v Speaker 2>lethality has been on full display. President Trump is saying

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<v Speaker 2>they are ahead of schedule, especially when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>targeting the leadership of the IRGC. The Ayatola is dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, that was something we were not aware of

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<v Speaker 2>when we concluded our stream on Saturday. But Kamani has

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<v Speaker 2>been killed, along with forty nine at the time, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>along with forty nine other members of the leadership structure

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<v Speaker 2>within run.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump even said where this is misinterpreted by some

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<v Speaker 3>people were he was saying, they had a list of

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<v Speaker 3>likely candidates to succeed come in a and it appears

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<v Speaker 3>that their strikes have been so successful they don't know

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<v Speaker 3>who an obvious successor is at this point, I say

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<v Speaker 3>misinterpreted because some people thought we killed our own candidates

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<v Speaker 3>to replace him. Now it appears that we're just talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the hostile leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew there was suspicion of who would be selected

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<v Speaker 2>if the Supreme Leader was killed. By the way, there

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<v Speaker 2>was another Supreme leader briefly installed for twenty two hours.

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<v Speaker 2>He too is dead. Don't even know his name. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think we need to but the point is the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate secession plan remains pretty unclear at this point. It

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be there was an indication from President Trump

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<v Speaker 2>where he was saying, we'll see who they choose, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>it does seem that this is not a regime change war.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that can feel like, you know, a distinction

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<v Speaker 2>without a difference, right, because yeah, the regime is going

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<v Speaker 2>to change. These are targeted air strikes to take out

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<v Speaker 2>leadership and allow the people of Iran to choose the

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<v Speaker 2>next leader. So we don't know how that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>play out. We were very reticent around here about regime

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<v Speaker 2>change wars. We're very reticent about going in to a

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<v Speaker 2>country as large and as strong as Iran, and the

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<v Speaker 2>unintended consequences are sure to be extreme. We don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how this is going to ultimately play out, and they

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<v Speaker 2>can't say that enough. Charlie was very concerned about regime

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<v Speaker 2>change wars, was very reticent about using kinetic force in

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<v Speaker 2>this region. But at the end of the day, Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>over and over and over again said this is why

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<v Speaker 2>I elected President Trump, this is why I fought so

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<v Speaker 2>hard for that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's really what it is is. There would be two

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<v Speaker 3>competing impulses with Charlie, and the reason we cite him

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<v Speaker 3>a big reason we continue this show, a big reason

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<v Speaker 3>it still has his name on there. As people looked

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<v Speaker 3>to Charlie as a leader, as a leader in the movement,

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<v Speaker 3>as a person who had wise perspectives, as a person

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<v Speaker 3>who wasn't under the control of anyone else, and so

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<v Speaker 3>he could be frank, he could be honest about things,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we're trying to maintain that voice to the

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<v Speaker 3>best we can so that because that's what people are

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<v Speaker 3>looking towards. And what I can say, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>you agree, is Charlie would have two competing impulses. One

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<v Speaker 3>is he was a millennial. He was a part of

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<v Speaker 3>that generation very shaped by Iraq and Afghanistan, two wars

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<v Speaker 3>that looked very easy at the start, but went on

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<v Speaker 3>a lot longer than people thought, were more expensive than

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<v Speaker 3>people thought they would be, and ended in ultimately either

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<v Speaker 3>failure or at best mixed results in the case of Iraq.

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<v Speaker 3>And that would have shaped his attitude towards this. You

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<v Speaker 3>can say, we agree. He repeatedly said he thought regime

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<v Speaker 3>change in Iran was a bad idea. The competing impulse

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<v Speaker 3>there is he was a supporter of President Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump's judgment in international affairs, and he was also

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<v Speaker 3>an American patriot, and so this war having started. His

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<v Speaker 3>take would similarly be I was very hesitant for this,

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<v Speaker 3>but I also do trust the president's judgment that he

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<v Speaker 3>must have good reasons for this, and that he would

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<v Speaker 3>have a plan to keep this from extending endlessly and

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<v Speaker 3>escalating out of control.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and to your point you mentioned a rock. Secretary

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<v Speaker 2>of War, Pete heg Seth addressed this very dynamic in

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<v Speaker 2>his press conference this morning with General Kine three oh one.

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<v Speaker 4>To the media outlets and political left streaming endless wars, stop,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not a rack. This is not endless. I

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<v Speaker 4>was there for both. Our generation knows better, and so

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<v Speaker 4>does this president. He called the last twenty years of

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<v Speaker 4>nation building wars dumb, and he's right, this is the opposite.

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<v Speaker 4>This operation is a clear, devastating, decisive mission, destroy the

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<v Speaker 4>missile threat, destroy the navy, no nukes.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's getting to the opera strategic missional objectives here.

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<v Speaker 2>He continues on three oh two, he said, this is

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<v Speaker 2>our why three o two.

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<v Speaker 4>Iran's stubborn and self evident nuclear pursuits their targeting of

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<v Speaker 4>global shipping lanes and their swelling arsenal of ballistic missiles

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<v Speaker 4>and killer drones were no longer are no longer tolerable risks.

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<v Speaker 4>Iran was building powerful missiles and drones to create a

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<v Speaker 4>conventional shield for their nuclear black male ambitions. Our bases,

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<v Speaker 4>our people, our allies all in their crosshairs. Iran had

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<v Speaker 4>a conventional gun to our head as.

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<v Speaker 2>They tried to lie their way.

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<v Speaker 4>To a nuclear bomb. It almost worked under Obama and

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<v Speaker 4>his terrible deal, but not under this president. Turns out

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<v Speaker 4>the regime who chanted death to America and death to

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<v Speaker 4>Israel was gifted death from America and death from Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of a headlines about that final line, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's right. It was a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a mic drop moment because you know, they've been chanting

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<v Speaker 2>death to America, death Israel for a long time. Turns

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<v Speaker 2>out that the Supreme Leader met his end, his demise

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<v Speaker 2>at the hands of CIA intelligence and an Israeli strike.

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<v Speaker 2>So the full circle moment for the iatola, certainly. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's just wrap up this segment. We've got so much

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<v Speaker 2>more to get to by saying that President Trump is

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<v Speaker 2>now on the record saying that the big wave has

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<v Speaker 2>not even commenced yet, which is something else. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Tapper, who he talked to three point thirty four.

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<v Speaker 5>I asked the President if US was doing more than

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<v Speaker 5>these military strikes to help the Iranian people regain control

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<v Speaker 5>of Iran against the regime, to seize the country from

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<v Speaker 5>the Iranian regime, and he said yes. The President said, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>we are, indeed, but what right now? We want everyone

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<v Speaker 5>staying inside. It's not safe out there. And then Resident

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<v Speaker 5>said it's about to get even less day. He said, quote,

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<v Speaker 5>we haven't even started hitting them hard. The big wave

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<v Speaker 5>hasn't even happened. The big one is coming soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Ominous warning from the President. The big one has not

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<v Speaker 2>even happened yet. It's coming soon. So take that as

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<v Speaker 2>you will. There is a lot of speculation. I do

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<v Speaker 2>want to just get to one of these. I'll never

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<v Speaker 2>forget this clip, Blake. It was at the height of

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<v Speaker 2>the base kind of having this public conflict about Operation

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<v Speaker 2>Midnight Hammer. It was about to commence, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie went on Jesse Waters in sort of an impossible situation,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just felt like he just nailed this moment

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to play it because I remember it

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<v Speaker 2>well three or nine.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump understands his base extraordinarily well. He knows that

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<v Speaker 1>his base does not want another Iraq, he does not

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<v Speaker 1>want Libya, does not want a civil war or bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>where the The States is left carrying the bag. But

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<v Speaker 1>also President Trump has been morally clear for a decade

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<v Speaker 1>Iran should not have a nuclear weapon. And President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has the talent the expertise to be able to thread

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<v Speaker 1>that needle. The generation that I represent, Jesse, the under

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<v Speaker 1>thirty crowd, they absolutely are very war weary. Many of

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<v Speaker 1>them voted for President Trump on college campuses because they

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<v Speaker 1>did not want to see a Joe Biden or George

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<v Speaker 1>Bush philosophy where we get into this endless conflict where

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<v Speaker 1>we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars. I think President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump will be able to balance those two things while defending

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<v Speaker 1>our allies, saying that Iran will not have a nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>weapon without having to deploy a single American troop or

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<v Speaker 1>even having America involved from the sky. President Trump can

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<v Speaker 1>get that deal done while fulfilling the mandate that the

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<v Speaker 1>voters gave him.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty impossible interview. I remember that night going. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Charlie Wine goes, well, say prayer, wish you luck. And

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he did a tremendous job. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he made a point about how consistent President Trump has

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<v Speaker 2>been when it comes to Iran. And we found this

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<v Speaker 2>clip from nineteen eighty a President Trump just talking about

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<v Speaker 2>his posture about Iran in nineteen eighty and remember you

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<v Speaker 2>go back to nineteen seventy nine, it's the hostage, the

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<v Speaker 2>Iran hostage crisis. I think Trump was just sort of

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<v Speaker 2>offended that we let this happen three twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 6>When you get the respect of the other countries, then

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<v Speaker 6>the other countries tend to do a little bit as

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<v Speaker 6>you do, and you can create the right attitudes. The

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<v Speaker 6>Iranian situation is a case in point. That they hold

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<v Speaker 6>our hostages is just absolutely and totally ridiculous. That this

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<v Speaker 6>country sits back and allows a country such as Iran

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<v Speaker 6>to hold out hostages, to my way of thinking, is

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<v Speaker 6>a horror.

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<v Speaker 7>You're advocating that we should have gone in there with troops, etc.

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<v Speaker 7>And brought our boys out. I absolutely feel that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I don't think there's any question, and there's no

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<v Speaker 6>question in my mind I think right now would be

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<v Speaker 6>an oil rich nation, and I believe that we should

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<v Speaker 6>have done it, and I'm very disappointed that we didn't

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<v Speaker 6>do it. And I don't think anybody would have held

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<v Speaker 6>us in abeyance. I don't think anybody would have been

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<v Speaker 6>angry with us, And we had every right to do

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<v Speaker 6>it at.

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<v Speaker 3>The time, held us in abeyance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's got the best. He's got the best where

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<v Speaker 2>its don't ever forget. Yeah, I mean, listen, So this

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<v Speaker 2>is a very young Trump basically sound in the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same way, and he has been consistent. And I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Charlie made this point that you know, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the hyper interventional or anti interventionists, and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>the warhawks, and these are our sort of two extremes. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump tends to defy both. And that's tends to

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<v Speaker 2>be the truth with President Trump. He he does find

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<v Speaker 2>a third way. And again, anybody that tells you that

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<v Speaker 2>they know how this is going to work out is

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<v Speaker 2>completely full of it.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people are We'll be frank, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people are smug at this point. They've acted like

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<v Speaker 3>the war is already over because THEO is dead. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not period. There are Iran has responded to this by

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<v Speaker 3>basically lobbying missiles at seven different Arab countries almost at random.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems their goal is to demoralize break apart. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>could create a lot of pressure for peace because people

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<v Speaker 3>start dying, well.

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<v Speaker 2>That their hope is that they'll just blame the uses

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<v Speaker 2>of that or Israel for all of that. And actually,

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<v Speaker 2>so far we've seen a little bit of the opposite effect.

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<v Speaker 2>Right where you saw Saudi Arabia is now going to

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<v Speaker 2>participate in some of these actions because they got missiles

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<v Speaker 2>dropped on them. And you know, listen, we've lost four

0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.520
<v Speaker 2>US troops. We have to pray that our US troops

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<v Speaker 2>would remain safe and that we have a minimal, minimal

0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.360
<v Speaker 2>loss of casualty. But President Trump is already indicated that

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<v Speaker 2>we'll probably lose more. That's horrifying as it's unfortunate and

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<v Speaker 2>it's horrifying, but he is also right in saying that

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<v Speaker 2>this is what happens in when there is armed conflict

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<v Speaker 2>between militaries, and so yeah, listen, I think all these

0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:57.280
<v Speaker 2>things are are important to hold all at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we pray for success, but we also understand

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't know all the details. I warned repeatedly

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, for those of you who saw our Saturday stream,

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<v Speaker 2>I warned repeatedly that I made numerous calls ahead of

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<v Speaker 2>our stream, trying to gather as much intel as I could.

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<v Speaker 2>And there was this repeat theme for multiple people that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a very real concern that Iran was like

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<v Speaker 2>a dog backed into a corner, a rabid dog, and

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<v Speaker 2>that you could hold two things in the same at

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<v Speaker 2>to be true at the same time that yes, the

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<v Speaker 2>strikes against Foidah were successful, Yes the regime was weaker

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<v Speaker 2>than ever, but yes they could be more dangerous than ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because they were pursuing hypersonics from China. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>carrier sinkers, right, Those will sink one of our carriers

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<v Speaker 2>in the region, five thousand people on board of those.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were working on dirty bombs, right, whether they

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<v Speaker 2>were collecting materials from the Foidah sites or whatever that

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<v Speaker 2>had been struck, or if they were just getting it

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<v Speaker 2>on the black market, and they were working on their

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<v Speaker 2>belove missile stockpiles really really quickly. They were escalating really

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<v Speaker 2>really quickly. And so the reported numbers that you saw

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<v Speaker 2>how many ballistic missiles they had were probably an underestimation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they had far more, and I think we're

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<v Speaker 2>sort of seeing that indication now. They were a dog

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<v Speaker 2>backed into a corner and they were going to bite,

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<v Speaker 2>and so President Trump made the decision to hit them

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<v Speaker 2>before they were ready to hit us. I understand that calculus. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have to agree with that. You don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have to think that Iran was an imminent threat to

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<v Speaker 2>us to understand that reasonable people would come out on

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<v Speaker 2>a different end of that discussion. So we're not a

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<v Speaker 2>drums of war people. We're not excited, getdy. There's no

0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:44.720
<v Speaker 2>sort of fervor here. There's no excitement at this. It's humility, terror,

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<v Speaker 2>and prayer for our troops and wishing and praying for success.

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<v Speaker 2>That this would ultimately be a good thing for the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and it would be a good thing for the region.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, if this does end in a

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<v Speaker 2>positive way, it's undeniable that this this could have massive upside. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're talking about choking off the energy flow to

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<v Speaker 2>the CCP, we see any other down downstream effects.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we said this over the weekend, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's worth repeating. I think the best possible outcome for

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<v Speaker 3>this is that instead of being another Middle East war,

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<v Speaker 3>it is the last Middle East war that would be

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<v Speaker 3>the United States has to be involved in. We've been

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<v Speaker 3>in here multiple times, but at this point, Iran you

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<v Speaker 3>can say, is the last entity that is a serious,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a serious danger to anyone. Yeah, there's Kuthis

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<v Speaker 3>who shoot missiles at ships in the Red Sea, but

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<v Speaker 3>the Huthis are not in any way a strategic danger

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<v Speaker 3>to any entire country. That matters, And so ideally, once

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<v Speaker 3>the Iranian regime is either removed or it is curtailed,

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<v Speaker 3>which the President has said, he seems to be saying,

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<v Speaker 3>if we can destroy all their military capabilities and if

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<v Speaker 3>they never try to rebuild them, we don't care what

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<v Speaker 3>they do after that. They can be in Islamic Republic

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<v Speaker 3>as long as they want, as long as they're not

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<v Speaker 3>a threat to anyone else. If we can create that reality,

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<v Speaker 3>then we can leave the Middle East. You know, leave

0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.720
<v Speaker 3>a few bases here and there, but most of the

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.160
<v Speaker 3>troops come home, most of the ships come home, most

0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:09.720
<v Speaker 3>of the planes go elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Worry about that. You've seen that commentary that this is

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<v Speaker 2>in effect, if it works out, a reorientation of our

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<v Speaker 2>focus on the Indo Pacific.

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<v Speaker 3>America has had forty five years of conflict in the

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<v Speaker 3>Middle East. It would be nice to not have anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Crane joins US now. Congressman, welcome back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw you briefly on our travels back from the

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<v Speaker 2>State of the Union last week. It was good to

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<v Speaker 2>see you in touch base really quick. You are a

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<v Speaker 2>former Navy seal, you're also a Congressman. Just lay out

0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 2>the situation as you would see it in Iran, what

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<v Speaker 2>our troops are facing. Obviously, whether you're for this intervention

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<v Speaker 2>or not, the one thing is very clear. Our troops

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<v Speaker 2>are second to none, Our military is second to none.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell us from your perspective, Congressman, what you're what you're thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>what you're seeing.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. Yeah, last week

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<v Speaker 8>before this invasion took place. You know, I was kind

0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:35.040
<v Speaker 8>of banging the drum of caution when it comes to

0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:40.679
<v Speaker 8>regime change, primarily because of my own personal experiences and

0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:45.240
<v Speaker 8>playing a small role in the regime change efforts in

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<v Speaker 8>Iraq and just seeing all the complexities that come with that.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I know a lot of gold star moms.

0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.240
<v Speaker 8>I have a lot of friends that did not come home.

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<v Speaker 8>I know, we spent trillions of dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:02.720
<v Speaker 8>We lost you know, know, thousands and thousands of American lives,

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<v Speaker 8>and when you look at those places now, it's it's

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<v Speaker 8>very tough to make the argument that those places are

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<v Speaker 8>better off now than when we went in there. And

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<v Speaker 8>so I know, if you look up research and you

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<v Speaker 8>know analysis, only about twenty to thirty percent of regime

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<v Speaker 8>changes are actually successful. And there's a whole list that

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<v Speaker 8>you know of places that you know, this has been

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<v Speaker 8>tried and it has not worked.

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<v Speaker 7>And one of the biggest problems with regime.

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<v Speaker 8>Change operations is the power vacuum that unfolds immediately. And

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<v Speaker 8>so you've got you've got tribes, you've got clans, you've

0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:41.280
<v Speaker 8>got militias, you've got political parties that are all jockeying

0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.720
<v Speaker 8>for political power and positioning.

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<v Speaker 7>And that's just within the interior of the country. And

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<v Speaker 7>then you have the exterior, you know forces.

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<v Speaker 8>You've got countries like China and Russia and the United

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<v Speaker 8>States and Israel and so many others who are also

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<v Speaker 8>trying to assert influence. And you know, as Americans, often

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<v Speaker 8>in Westerners, because you know, we live in the countries

0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:08.680
<v Speaker 8>that we do, we we often have this slip and

0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 8>attitude that, well, you know, we've done our part.

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<v Speaker 7>We've taken out the iatola.

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<v Speaker 8>You know we've damaged you know, the military infrastructure there.

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<v Speaker 8>So Iranians just go do your thing now, right, That's

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.680
<v Speaker 8>kind of the attitude. The problem is is that most

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:27.880
<v Speaker 8>of these people have lived under brutal authoritarian regime for

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<v Speaker 8>so long that there there's a there's got to be

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<v Speaker 8>a certain calculus and a fear in many of them

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<v Speaker 8>to you know, almost to the point of if I

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.120
<v Speaker 8>step up and I back the wrong horse, or if

0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 8>I back the wrong political party and the party that

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 8>I back or the person that I back doesn't win,

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<v Speaker 8>am I going to be you know, thrown into a

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<v Speaker 8>prison or a goo lag or beheaded or hanged in

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<v Speaker 8>the street, and so it's very dynamic.

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<v Speaker 7>It's very hard to pull off.

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<v Speaker 8>That being said, now that you know, you know, this

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<v Speaker 8>operation is underway, I'm hoping and I'm praying for not

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<v Speaker 8>only the administration and you know, the wisdom, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>for for their decisions going forward, but also for the

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 8>people of Iran. But it's a very you know, dicey,

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:19.400
<v Speaker 8>very dynamic situation right now, and you know, I hope

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<v Speaker 8>it works out.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope it works out.

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<v Speaker 8>And I will say this, guys, if if we were

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<v Speaker 8>going to you know, obviously we made the decision to

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<v Speaker 8>do it, I am glad that at least from the

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<v Speaker 8>pr standpoint, this administration is not you know, talking about

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<v Speaker 8>we're going to you know, be pushing regime change. At

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<v Speaker 8>least they're talking about the Iranians stepping up and doing

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<v Speaker 8>it themselves.

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<v Speaker 7>Because if the United States.

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<v Speaker 8>Was to insert you know, a leader, you know that

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<v Speaker 8>has good relations with the United States, that leader would

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<v Speaker 8>be seen as a puppet of the West and would

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<v Speaker 8>have a tough time gaining legitimacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the President spoke to Brett Bayer about this exact

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<v Speaker 2>issue three thirty one.

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<v Speaker 9>I asked, so, what you're saying, is that you know

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<v Speaker 9>there is somebody on the ground in Iran that is

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<v Speaker 9>going to rise up. Quote yeah, I feel there is.

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<v Speaker 9>I feel that, and some of them are no longer

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<v Speaker 9>with us, to be honest, because it was forty nine

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:19.360
<v Speaker 9>leaders that were taken out. That was going to take

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.280
<v Speaker 9>four weeks. We thought to get rid of the Iranian leadership,

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<v Speaker 9>and it's always you know, if they hide, it's a

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<v Speaker 9>lot longer than four weeks, and they would have been hiding.

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<v Speaker 9>We were shocked when we heard what was going on.

0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 9>We knew exactly what was happening and where forty nine leaders.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes on one more clip here, Elin, I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>your reaction on the other side, three thirty three.

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<v Speaker 9>He said, there is a plan. He points to Venezuela

0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:50.920
<v Speaker 9>as a template, which means to me that going in

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.399
<v Speaker 9>they had some sense on the ground of what was

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<v Speaker 9>coming next. So from the President of the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>He is pleased.

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<v Speaker 9>Does bel believe that this is going faster than they thought,

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<v Speaker 9>And he believes that four weeks is something that they

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 9>had put as a kind of calendar of what they

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 9>were looking at as setting the table for the Iranians

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<v Speaker 9>to do what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you hear for four to five weeks, he says,

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm open to changing that timeline could be moved up,

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.960
<v Speaker 2>could be moved back. What are you Does that give

0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:27.439
<v Speaker 2>you the sense that you know, regime change was the

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<v Speaker 2>ultimate goal here? What do you interpret when you hear that,

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<v Speaker 2>Eli Congressman Crane.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean it's I do believe that that was

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<v Speaker 8>definitely part of the plan. I mean, you know, from

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.199
<v Speaker 8>the time that the President addressed you know, the people

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 8>of the nation, initially it was it was pretty clear

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 8>that that was a part of the plan, even if indirectly,

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<v Speaker 8>and hey, we'll take out you know, the Ayatola, will

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<v Speaker 8>take out a lot of you know, the opposition will threaten,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the police to stay out of it or

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<v Speaker 8>they're going to die. But now Iranians you need to up,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, and do your thing. So I do think that,

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<v Speaker 8>even if indirectly, that was a part of the plan.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously we wanted to take out the ballistic missiles. And

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<v Speaker 8>I do believe that Iran is a massive threat and

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<v Speaker 8>at some point was going to have to be dealt with.

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<v Speaker 8>And I will say humbly, guys that you know, I

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<v Speaker 8>recognize on the outset that I don't have all the

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<v Speaker 8>information and intelligence that the President and this administration have,

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<v Speaker 8>so I want to be cautious. I know tomorrow when

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<v Speaker 8>we fly in at five pm, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 8>brief by a Secretary Rubio. I believe Pete Hegseth John

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<v Speaker 8>Ratcliffe is supposed to be there, so you know, we

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<v Speaker 8>should be able to you know, paint some of the

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<v Speaker 8>color and understanding.

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<v Speaker 7>In you know, for members of Congress.

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<v Speaker 8>But I am glad that the President is at least

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<v Speaker 8>speaking in terms of, hey, we've got to be flexible,

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 8>because you know, everybody has a plan until they get

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 8>punched in the mouth. And as somebody who's gone to

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 8>war many times, I can tell you that often, you know,

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 8>things don't go the way that you planned, and you've

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 8>got to be able to be flexible, and you've got

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:04.400
<v Speaker 8>to be willing and able to adjust. And I very

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 8>seriously doubt the President of the United States, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>who I think has a pretty good track record of

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 8>trying to keep us out of prolonged military conflicts. You know,

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:16.000
<v Speaker 8>game plan this out with his senior advisors from many

0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 8>agencies on you know what next? That's always the question

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.919
<v Speaker 8>with regime change, type operations. You know, the actual you know,

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 8>toppling of a regime isn't the hard part.

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<v Speaker 7>It's what comes next.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, I'm sure the president had many, you know, plans,

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:36.600
<v Speaker 8>strategic plans presented to him. And you know, this is why,

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 8>you know, Charlie and others have said that we voted

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 8>for the guy because we did trust.

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:43.919
<v Speaker 7>You know, his instincts. And I'm hoping and praying that

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<v Speaker 7>you know.

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<v Speaker 8>He's in prayer himself and you know, making the best

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 8>decisions possible for the country because you know, military operations

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 8>like this can go sideways so fast, you know, it'll

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<v Speaker 8>make your head spin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's the question, Blake, and it's it's you know,

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 2>you talked about how we don't want to put our

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<v Speaker 2>thumb on the scale picking the next leader of Iran.

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 2>But then there is this vacuum and you get this

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 2>factions fighting. Everybody's wondering who if they picked the wrong horse,

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:12.920
<v Speaker 2>are they going to be sent to the gulag? How

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 2>do you how do you install or not install? How

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 2>do you achieve that without installing somebody? Because if I'm

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the Iranian people, I'm going who's America going to pick?

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 2>Because that's probably going to be the winning horse here, Like,

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.560
<v Speaker 2>how do you thread that needle? You know, that's I

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't know that you have an answer for it.

0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 2>But to me, that seems like the central tension.

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<v Speaker 8>Then yeah, you know, if if I was, if I

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<v Speaker 8>was working this problem, guys, I would be working with

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<v Speaker 8>my coalition partners in the area, you know, to find

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<v Speaker 8>somebody that you know, we could all you know, agree upon,

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 8>you know, would be better than the former leadership, but

0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 8>at the same time have some credibility with the Iranian people.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm, yeah, I think that's probably smart, even when

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>you have other Arab partners that are are now kind

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<v Speaker 2>of at the table, the Board of peace. It'll be interesting.

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 2>You've also got the you know, with the Crown Prince Raza,

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:11.119
<v Speaker 2>whatever his name is, he's who knows, who knows what

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>his credibility is on the ground. I mean, but listen,

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:17.920
<v Speaker 2>you're hitting all the notes that we're hitting. Congressmen. Listen,

0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 2>there's no there's no eagerness here, there's no fervor to

0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>get involved in this conflict. But as you said, this

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 2>is why we work so hard to get President Trump

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 2>elected is for tough decisions. Like this, and we have

0:28:29.640 --> 0:28:31.679
<v Speaker 2>to trust his instincts. Ultimately, we have to pray for

0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>success and for peace and minimal casualties. And I think

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 2>it's very telling that a man like yourself, Congressman, that

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 2>has been in combat multiple times, that this is the

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>tone you're setting. And you heard that as well from

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Secretary heg Seth. He said, you know, I was there

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>for I Raq, I'm here for this. This is not

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 2>a rack, but the humility of going to war. I

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:57.240
<v Speaker 2>think we always have to keep that central while praying

0:28:57.240 --> 0:29:00.720
<v Speaker 2>for our brave servicemen and women. Thank you, Congress, God

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.239
<v Speaker 2>bless you, and I look forward to updates as you

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 2>as you get briefed in DC tomorrow.

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.720
<v Speaker 7>Thank you, guys, God bless We're going to take.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a quick detour here because we have to address this.

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<v Speaker 2>Our friend Charlie was once again targeted by leftists, this

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 2>time over a massive banner hanging at the Department of

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Education with his face on. It was a beautiful tribute

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 2>at the Department of Education, Yeah, it was.

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 3>It was a banner. It had Booker T. Washington, it

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 3>had who was the next one, Catherine Beecher, and then

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 3>it had Charlie and it said, empowering our states to

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 3>tell the stories of our heroes in American education. And

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 3>so it's reflecting the agenda with the Department of Education,

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 3>which is of course abolish it. Ultimately, we don't need

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 3>a big federal Department of Education.

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 3>And also yeah, so empowering the states and then heroes

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 3>in American education and so some very nasty people. I

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 3>don't think we need to really pull any punches there.

0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 3>They're saying. Gross people.

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>They deserve to be absolutely excoriated for this insane attack

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 2>against Charlie. And of course we are talking about none

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 2>other than Mehdi Hassan. Mehdi Hassan, the disgraced former ms

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 2>NBC was because it was MSNBC then broadcaster. He's a

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 2>foreigner MSNBC, I can never remember ms MS Now they

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 2>changed it because they were embarrassed about it. Well, he

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>had to say. First Democratic presidential candidate who publicly pledges

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to tear down this particular banner on day one of

0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 2>his or her administration gets an immediate bump in their

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>presidential primary polling. Uh, shut up, Mehdi Hassan, shut up,

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.719
<v Speaker 2>go back to whatever hell hole you came from and

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 2>go terrorize the people there. That's my message for you.

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:48.440
<v Speaker 3>What stands out to me is Meddi is, of course

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 3>a leftist, and he's been freaking out massively about this

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 3>war NonStop. You can go to his ex account and okay, well,

0:30:56.120 --> 0:31:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Charlie was someone who opposed war, would be was hesitant

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 3>this war. And this is the grace we get, which

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 3>is MENTI Hassan goes online and you you could even

0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 3>oppose it, You could say I don't think this is

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 3>who should be on But instead it's the visceral disgust

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 3>he's in. He's furious that we would dare commemorate someone

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 3>who is heinously murdered by a left wing radical while

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 3>he was on a campus advocating for American principles in

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 3>free speech, engaging with people who disagreed with him, and

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 3>one of those people who disagreed with him shot him.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 3>And that's his response is to say, I'm we're gonna

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 3>immediately support whoever tears down this disgusting banner. Yeah, he's

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 3>just a repulsive creature, of course. And of course he,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 3>you know, is someone who was welcomed into this country

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 3>from a foreign country. We gave him citizenship for some

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 3>stupid reason, and he rewards us by dumping on an

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 3>American icon and an American hero. Yeah, you know what,

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll give my primary support to whoever says we're going

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 3>to try to find a way to strip this person's

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 3>citizenship and send him back to some dump.

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we should, Actually we should, And you know it's

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 2>worth remembering that. In a reservice clip from two thousand

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and nine, Mehdi Hassan given his sermons speeches to Muslim

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 2>student groups on Islam and extremism. He quoted the Quran

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 2>to describe atheists, non believers, Kufar disbelievers as cattle, that's

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 2>what he said, death and stubborn to the teachings of Islam,

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 2>incapable of the intellectual effort it requires to shake off

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 2>those blind prejudice prejudices. In a list of sins attributed

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to the historical tyrant Yazid, he concluded a homosexual, a pedophile,

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>a sexual deviant, alongside drunker, dog lover, music lover, killer.

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 2>So you know this is Mehdi Hassan. He's a foreigner

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>that to Blake's point, for some reason in our stupid

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>immigration system, he was allowed in. Then he's allowed to

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>come in here and smear the memory of Charlie Kirk,

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the legacy of Charlie Kirk. And listen, those are the

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 2>freedoms that have been bestowed upon him by a superior

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 2>country and culture than his own. And yeah, he whatever,

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 2>he's British or whatever his you know, but he's a Muslim,

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>he's somebody that is proudly in favor of the Palestinian

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>movement and hamas anti Israel, anti American, and so yeah,

0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 2>we have a superior culture than Mediassan's. And yet he's

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 2>come in here and he's been bestowed with the same

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>freedoms that American citizens have long enjoyed. And we should

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 2>find a way to stop that. We should absolutely find

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>a way to stop that. That's my final feeling on this.

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't see much of a difference between him and

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:44.520
<v Speaker 2>many others that are even more violent. Obviously, there's another

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:50.240
<v Speaker 2>John Pavlovitz. This is a left wing Christian apparently, if

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that's such a thing these days, three sixty five John Pavlovitz,

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>who's who wrote a book basically saying, if you're a Christian,

0:33:57.240 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 2>don't be a d word. And yet he spends all

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 2>of his time on social media basically behaving like a

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>D word, and I won't fill in the blakes.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of that.

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of that, he says. Yeah, but he says.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Left wing Christians are very often very messed up in

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 3>the head.

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's first, that's for sure. John Pavlovitz says Charlie

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Kirk was a horrible human being who despised diversity, empathy

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and equality. No, he despised equity, which is a communist term.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.520
<v Speaker 2>His face belongs nowhere near a government building, let alone

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 2>when devoted to education. And then he pumps his sub

0:34:35.080 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 2>stack where he says the shameful Christian idology and fraudulent

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:38.959
<v Speaker 2>martyrdom of Charlie Kirk.

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 3>This also captures their values. They say Charlie doesn't. They'll

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:44.439
<v Speaker 3>basically say Charlie doesn't belong on an education building because

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.879
<v Speaker 3>he thought college was a scam. Charlie was a huge

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 3>advocate for education. He would have people touting Christian education,

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 3>classical education. We had Hillsdale here on all the time.

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 3>He endlessly loved to talk about what you should learn

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 3>throughout your life. He advocated education throughout your life. He

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 3>told people here's how you can and get the most

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 3>out of college if you go. He loved education. He

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 3>just thought colleges don't educate people. He thought it was

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 3>a scam. He didn't say the education scam. He didn't

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.959
<v Speaker 3>say the learning scam. He said the college scam because

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.400
<v Speaker 3>he thought it was cheating people. He thought all of

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 3>values that made it important were eroding away. He thought

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.399
<v Speaker 3>it had become away for scammers to rip people off.

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 3>And so these parasites go out and they're say, oh,

0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 3>Charlie doesn't belong in a Department of Education building, you know,

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:32.799
<v Speaker 3>after we murdered him. Because he didn't think it was

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 3>a good idea to spend two hundred thousand dollars in

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 3>a worthless degree.

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 2>He didn't mindlessly parrot the talking points from the regime

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 2>media that would say that college or busts. Sorry, there's

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>other options. We like hvac and plumbers and people that

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>work with their hands, shower before and after work. We

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:54.279
<v Speaker 2>liked those guys too. Anyways, screw these two all right.

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 2>This might seem weird coming from somebody who's a little

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 2>bit younger, but if you are about to turn sixty five,

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:04.040
<v Speaker 2>or if you're already on Medicare, this message is for you.

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>You see, Charlie cared a lot about America seniors, and

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.879
<v Speaker 2>he was outraged that so many were paying too much

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 2>for their Medicare coverage and getting less than they deserved

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.960
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<v Speaker 2>We are joined by Jonathan Gilliam. He's a former Navy seal,

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 2>former FBI agent. You can follow him on x It's

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<v Speaker 2>a good follow Jay Gilliam Underscore Seal. Jonathan, welcome back

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>to the show. It's been a while since we had

0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:23.839
<v Speaker 2>you on. I believe last time you were on your

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 2>own with Charlie. There is a huge concern with the

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>strikes going on in Iran that it could activate sleeper

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>cells here in the United States. Of course, we had

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>this terrible shooting in Austin. Fourteen were injured, two killed

0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 2>when a fifty three year old man from Senegalese.

0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Immigrant, yeah, naturalized citizen, and I believe a shirt said

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:47.200
<v Speaker 3>property of Allah, Yeah.

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 2>And under his T shirt had a some sort of

0:37:50.320 --> 0:37:57.280
<v Speaker 2>reference to Iran underneath that sweatshirt. So the question then becomes,

0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.320
<v Speaker 2>what do you do about this? You know, head on

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:04.480
<v Speaker 2>a swivel, stay frosty. There's multiple levels to this though, Jonathan,

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 2>what are you watching and paying attention to right now?

0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:09.000
<v Speaker 10>Well, first of all, let me just touch on that

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 10>head on a swivel, stay frosty thing that people say

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 10>a lot, so are either of you guys in in finance,

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 10>do you study finance at all?

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:21.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in finance. I study it as best I can.

0:38:21.920 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 10>Okay, So if I ask you what stocks should I

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 10>invest in today? You know, are you going to give

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 10>me an educated opinion or are you going to give

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 10>me an opinion based on what you've heard? Right?

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 2>What I've heard?

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 10>Well, that's true, Okay, It's the same thing here. Just

0:38:38.719 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 10>being aware is like saying, you know, I know that

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 10>there's stocks in the stock market, right, So it's what

0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.720
<v Speaker 10>you're aware of that that is So as many people

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.320
<v Speaker 10>listen to this this podcast and watch this podcast, especially

0:38:52.320 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 10>people who are smart, critical thinkers, they have to understand

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 10>what to look for, when to look for it, and

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 10>what is normal versus what is abnormal behavior in any

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 10>sector of their life. And I'll get to why this

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 10>is so important now and what threats we're looking at.

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 10>But this is the very first thing that people must

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:19.600
<v Speaker 10>realize is that I have to go study stocks and

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 10>the market and all these things to get versed in

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 10>when and how to invest. And it seems complicated, but

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 10>for those who do it, it's not that complicated. Well,

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.240
<v Speaker 10>it's the same thing with attackers that guy that walked

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 10>into that bar in Texas and killed two people and

0:39:36.640 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 10>wounded fourteen, Well, he wasn't a rocket science, he wasn't

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:45.280
<v Speaker 10>a Navy seal. He was a guy wearing a property

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 10>of all ushirt, which, by the way, he is a

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:50.799
<v Speaker 10>property of his ala now, but he's actually property of

0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 10>our gride now. He didn't have all this special forces

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 10>training and things to walk in there and carry out

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 10>a success full terror attack. He had had the will,

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 10>and the people that were killed and wounded did not

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 10>have the awareness to see a guy walking in with

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 10>a property of all a shirt, wearing camouflage pants and

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:14.880
<v Speaker 10>carrying a gun.

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>So this is.

0:40:18.480 --> 0:40:24.000
<v Speaker 10>Where he figured out the vulnerabilities and he exploited those vulnerabilities.

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 10>And the interesting thing is that people that got shot

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.680
<v Speaker 10>and the people who were in that bar, they also

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 10>know about those vulnerabilities. They just don't look at it

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 10>from his perspective. So that's where I started out. That's

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 10>why I started out with the comparison to stocks, is

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.759
<v Speaker 10>that we all know and we've heard that if you

0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:43.879
<v Speaker 10>invest your money correctly, your money is going.

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:44.640
<v Speaker 2>To make you money.

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:48.879
<v Speaker 10>And if we learned just a little bit about how

0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 10>the market goes back and forth. We can then start

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:55.960
<v Speaker 10>to develop more of an understanding of where and how

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 10>to invest their money. It's the same thing here if

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 10>you look at how these attackers traditionally work. If you

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:07.360
<v Speaker 10>look at yourself, your life, your sectors, each sector of

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 10>your life, your business, church, school, so on and so forth,

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 10>and you say, if I was going to attack, this

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 10>is why I would choose this. This is what I

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:21.920
<v Speaker 10>would exploit to get to that area effectively when it

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 10>might happen. Because that bar is not a viable target

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 10>Sunday morning at twelve am it's a viable or excuse me,

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 10>at twelve pm, it's a viable target at twelve am

0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 10>Sunday morning because that's Saturday night. So we have to

0:41:37.120 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 10>look at our lives from the attacker's point of view

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:43.760
<v Speaker 10>and then turn around and say, now my awareness is heightened.

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 10>I know to look in this area at this point

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:48.399
<v Speaker 10>in time. I know that the attack could come from

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:50.920
<v Speaker 10>this direction, it might be that type of attack. And

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 10>then you can say this is normal. That's normal at

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 10>that time in that place, but this is not normal.

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 10>And so if people can do this using their knowledge,

0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:02.799
<v Speaker 10>but looking at an attacker's point of view, and then

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:08.240
<v Speaker 10>turn around and then eliminate vulnerabilities, develop plans of action.

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 10>What they'll end up finding is that they, for instance,

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:15.439
<v Speaker 10>in the Ariana Grande concert that got bombed years ago,

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 10>people who thought, you know what, I'm not going to

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 10>walk out when everybody else does, because that's an area

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 10>that's right for an attack. I'm either going to leave early,

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:27.200
<v Speaker 10>which I would have if I was forced to go

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.239
<v Speaker 10>to Ariana Grande concert, I would have left early, or

0:42:30.600 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 10>you wait for everybody else to leave and then you go,

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:35.160
<v Speaker 10>because then you could have avoided you would have had

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:38.799
<v Speaker 10>a plan of action to avoid that critical time in

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:39.880
<v Speaker 10>that critical area.

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I'm just I'm curiously, but.

0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 3>I will This feels spooky. It sounds like you're kind

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 3>of in a roundabout way saying just avoid crowded spaces

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:51.320
<v Speaker 3>at this point.

0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 10>No, I'm what I'm saying, is it? Well, yeah, if

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 10>you don't have to go into those crowded spaces, then don't.

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.800
<v Speaker 10>But if you do, and it's not just crowded spaces

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 10>it I mean that bar was not the biggest bar,

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 10>it wasn't the most packed bar, but it was a

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 10>place in time that was could have been right for

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 10>an attack and it was so not paranoid but aware.

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:16.399
<v Speaker 10>And it's a huge difference being this aware freeze you up.

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.040
<v Speaker 10>You're not gonna worry. Am I gonna get caught? Because

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.479
<v Speaker 10>you're gonna have a plan of action and then if

0:43:21.560 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 10>it does happen, that plan is going to allow you

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 10>to maneuver to safety. And so that's how we do

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 10>threat assessments, and that's how people should do that on

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:30.439
<v Speaker 10>their line.

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just curious when you go into a crowded space,

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 2>especially right now where you know are we're under heightened

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.400
<v Speaker 2>security risk with everything in Iran? Are you looking for

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.280
<v Speaker 2>an exit as soon as you walk into a building?

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Is that?

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 2>What are the first three things you do? You say?

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Where's my exit? How do I how do I get

0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:50.879
<v Speaker 2>immediate cover? What's the list that goes to your head?

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 10>Well, if I can choose where I'm gonna sit or

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:56.560
<v Speaker 10>where I'm gonna go, that's what I do. If I

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 10>can't choose, then yes, I'm always monitoring exits, not just

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 10>the exit, what are other exits? And you can kind

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 10>of get an idea for the places that you're going

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 10>to go. You go regularly, you know, I live in Arizona,

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 10>so I'm familiar with where you all are at, and

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.920
<v Speaker 10>I've been there before, and I always have an understanding

0:44:16.920 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 10>of the threats as you all do. And but I

0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:22.359
<v Speaker 10>don't know if you all, but I definitely look at

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 10>it from an attacker's point of view. So when I

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 10>walk up anywhere, I'm understanding, for instance, in a mall,

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 10>that there is places to exit in the back that

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.840
<v Speaker 10>take me to an alleyway that could lead outside of

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 10>a building. I don't necessarily have to go out the

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 10>front door. So that that is the defensive side, the

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 10>awareness the attacker side is saying, if I was going

0:44:43.520 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 10>to attack, I'll probably just walk to the front door

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 10>with a knife for a gun. And if something happens,

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.160
<v Speaker 10>as a defender, I'm going to avoid that, I'm going

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 10>to go towards the back and go out. And so

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 10>this is the back and forth, the switch on and off,

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.279
<v Speaker 10>the what if game, and going back and forth from

0:44:58.320 --> 0:44:59.520
<v Speaker 10>the attacker to the defender.

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.000
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, you know, it's a terrifying reality

0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 2>that we've all had to confront around here of just

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 2>constantly being vigilant and constant. You know, it's understand you

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 2>might have a tail where how do you how do

0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 2>you shake the tail? You know, what do you do

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:15.160
<v Speaker 2>if you have an intruder? What do you have somebody

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 2>who comes on campus? God forbid? Like we've we've run

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:19.920
<v Speaker 2>through all these scenarios because this is the world we

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 2>live in. Unfortunately, and obviously with what happened to Charlie,

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 2>we're we our awareness is even more heightened. So, h Jonathan,

0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 2>how do people find you if they want to keep

0:45:29.800 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 2>tabs on your advice and what you're you're putting out.

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 10>There Jonathan Gilliam anywhere on social media? Just look for

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 10>this face face for radio and and if they DM

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:42.319
<v Speaker 10>me and they have a question, I can always get

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 10>back to them if I see it, and listen. Awareness

0:45:46.400 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 10>is the name of the game. Awareness and thinking like

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 10>they do so you can avoid it.

0:45:50.480 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, Jonathan, thanks for making the time. Uh, you know,

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.839
<v Speaker 2>Austin really drove this point home. So thank you for

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 2>helping us stay vigilant, giving us some points, pointers and

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 2>tips and tricks. Thank you so much. Jonathan Gilliam, I'm

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 2>a Navy Seal former FBI agent here in Arizona. Imagine

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<v Speaker 2>to continue this conversation. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth says

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the US is ready for possible Iranian sleeper sell attacks

0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 2>on US three oh five.

0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Concerns about Iranian sleeper cells and kind of what has

0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration been doing to kind of monitor.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 4>These across the Intern Agency in full coordination. Of course,

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 4>we're paying attention to any potentialities there there. This is

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:50.680
<v Speaker 4>a former regime, a regime that seeks to export that

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 4>ideology and try to so terror. We're ready for that.

0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:57.640
<v Speaker 4>We've we've seen these types of folks before, and the

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 4>American people can rest assured that we're were vigilant on that.

0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 2>And then let's do a little back in time here.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Tulsi Gabbert three sixty six.

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<v Speaker 11>You revealed that the Biden administration I didn't believe this headline.

0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:16.480
<v Speaker 12>They deported only eight out of one hundred illegals.

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>With ties to ISIS.

0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 12>It is inconceivable to me to have a commander in

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:24.719
<v Speaker 12>chief and a president who would knowingly return those who

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 12>are either known or suspected terrorists, or those who had

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 12>very close ties with known or suspected terrorists back onto

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:33.960
<v Speaker 12>our streets in their country. But unfortunately, it's exactly what happened.

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 12>There were over four hundred illegal immigrants who came from

0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 12>Central Asia into our country. Of those, there were hundreds

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:45.640
<v Speaker 12>who had either ties to terrorists or were terrorists themselves.

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 3>This is something I would truthfully tease Charlie about. He

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 3>had a big fascination with sleeper cells, which I think

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 3>was somewhat related to him watching twenty four a lot

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 3>when he was growing up. You have these espionage shows

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.439
<v Speaker 3>where there's a lot of them. But Tulsi's getting at

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:03.439
<v Speaker 3>the heart of it, which is that for decades, really,

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:05.799
<v Speaker 3>and especially during the Biden administration, we really did just

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 3>let anyone in at the southern border. It was so

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:11.920
<v Speaker 3>simple to just be let in. We had people not

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:15.320
<v Speaker 3>just coming from Latin America, but they're coming, as she said,

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Central Asia, the Middle East, China, and a lot of

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 3>them are criminals, sex offenders. We don't know who they are.

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 3>They don't have any real identification, and we've let them

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.280
<v Speaker 3>in for years, and we're just at the point where

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:32.040
<v Speaker 3>there are millions of people in the United States from

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.879
<v Speaker 3>foreign lands, where we don't know what motivates them, why

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 3>they're here, what weird mental problems they might have. So

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.560
<v Speaker 3>some of them could be active agents of foreign governments,

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 3>or they're just nutballs who obviously shouldn't be here, and

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:48.880
<v Speaker 3>both of those pose a real threat where they could

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 3>react to this either because their order to or just

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.960
<v Speaker 3>because they choose to. That property of a Laguy I

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 3>don't think was sent here as anyone's agent.

0:49:57.840 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 2>He has a history or had a history now, but

0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:01.720
<v Speaker 2>he had a history of mental illness.

0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we just let him. He came in over

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 3>state of visa illegally. We just let him become a

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.840
<v Speaker 3>citizen anyway because he married somebody, which I think that

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.160
<v Speaker 3>would be a good rule. If you violate a visa

0:50:13.239 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 3>to stay here, you can't use a marriage as to

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 3>get out of jail free card on it. Well then yeah,

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.840
<v Speaker 3>eventually just snapped and killed people. Well, and there is

0:50:21.000 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 3>millions who could do that.

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Of course. And by the way, they're not all Iranian nationals,

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.440
<v Speaker 2>although some of them are. This is a report a

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 2>CBS from June twenty twenty five, where the where ICE

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 2>arrested eleven Iranian nationals I guess across eight states in

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.560
<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours. This is real. That's why interior re

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 2>enforcement is so important. Three sixty.

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:45.160
<v Speaker 11>The Department of Homeland Security says Yusuf Maredano had been

0:50:45.239 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 11>living in the United States illegally for nearly eight years,

0:50:49.360 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 11>since US officials determined he lied on a visa application.

0:50:53.200 --> 0:50:56.720
<v Speaker 11>On Sunday, just four months after the Iranian foreign national

0:50:56.880 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 11>was added to the US's Known or Suspected ORRIST list,

0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:04.400
<v Speaker 11>he was arrested in Central Mississippi. He's now in ICE

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 11>custody pending removal proceedings, and he's not alone. Over the

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:12.960
<v Speaker 11>past forty eight hours, ICE officials have arrested eleven Iranian

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:18.320
<v Speaker 11>nationals spanning eight states nationwide. Among them, five possessed previous

0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 11>criminal convictions, their crimes ranging from grand larceny to drug

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:27.800
<v Speaker 11>and firearm possessions. Also among those apprehended, rib Var Karmi.

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 11>ICE officials say they found his Islamic Republic of Iran

0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 11>Army identification card and allege he served as an Iranian sniper.

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, just let these guys in super casually.

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Just to remind you, this is go back in your

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 2>head to Minneapolis. All these you know, blue haired Karens

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 2>using their cars as battering rams against ice officials. These

0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 2>are the people that they're getting out of the country.

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 2>This is why Interior enforcement matters. This is why we

0:51:56.600 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 2>can't give an inch to these crazy people. They think

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:02.719
<v Speaker 2>that their message is compassion, they think that they're trying

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.799
<v Speaker 2>to be inclusive or whatever. I don't want to be

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:07.680
<v Speaker 2>inclusive of people like that. I don't want to be

0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 2>inclusive of people that are going to turn the gun

0:52:10.160 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 2>on American citizens and fire into a nightclub in Austin,

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Texas or wherever. And so this is a very real problem.

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm candidly there's a big part of me that's glad

0:52:21.600 --> 0:52:25.399
<v Speaker 2>we've had at least a year of ICE deportations under

0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 2>President Trump before this kind of action was taken in

0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 2>the Middle East.

0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, but we need a lot more. And it really

0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:37.839
<v Speaker 3>it is just an illustration of how badly we've harmed America.

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 3>Totals America asked attitude, this attitude of everyone in the

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:45.919
<v Speaker 3>world has a right to come to America and stay

0:52:45.920 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 3>in America, like every single a good idea I've heard

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:52.839
<v Speaker 3>is you know, anytime a plane crashes, we have this

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.279
<v Speaker 3>board that comes in and they analyze every single thing

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 3>about the crash, and you know, how could this have happened?

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.279
<v Speaker 3>And we do new safety innovations to make sure and

0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:03.800
<v Speaker 3>as a result, we have almost no plane crashes anymore.

0:53:04.320 --> 0:53:06.440
<v Speaker 3>And I think it would be pretty reasonable for us

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:09.200
<v Speaker 3>to do that the same way, like any time an

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:12.280
<v Speaker 3>immigrant to this country does something like a terrorist attack,

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 3>a mass shooting, they're doing some really heinous crime, it

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.440
<v Speaker 3>should merit an Actually, you should make someone have to

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 3>write up a report. How did this person get into America?

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Why did they remain in America when they were obviously

0:53:23.160 --> 0:53:26.319
<v Speaker 3>insane or a criminal and on or a welfare thing,

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:28.400
<v Speaker 3>And how do we prevent this from happening in the future.

0:53:28.400 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 3>And you should make it so someone is getting humiliated,

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.480
<v Speaker 3>someone is losing their job when this happens, because we

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 3>have done this over and over and over again. We've

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:39.040
<v Speaker 3>had it multiple times in the past year where someone

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.279
<v Speaker 3>who is an immigrant to this country just stabs someone

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:45.040
<v Speaker 3>to death on the bus, specifically on a bus lunatic

0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:47.880
<v Speaker 3>immigrant to the country stabs someone to death. The number

0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.920
<v Speaker 3>of people who come into this country and then stab

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 3>someone to death on a bus should be zero. I'm

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:55.319
<v Speaker 3>going to guess in a lot of countries it is zero.

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Somehow they don't have this problem, even if they have

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.399
<v Speaker 3>immigration there. So it is a choice.

0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, and you think about recreating how we got here.

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:07.759
<v Speaker 2>So you got a Senegalese immigrant who comes, not sure

0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:09.920
<v Speaker 2>what was in the benefit of America to even let

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:12.840
<v Speaker 2>him in in the first place, overstays's visa, has a

0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 2>history of mental health issues, then gets married and we

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:20.800
<v Speaker 2>allow him to stay. This guy is a complete degenerate

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:22.520
<v Speaker 2>that shouldn't have been allowed in this country, should have

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:25.399
<v Speaker 2>been deported candidly, should have never been naturalized. The fact

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:29.839
<v Speaker 2>that we're just so knee jerk to extend our compassion

0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:32.480
<v Speaker 2>to somebody that doesn't belong here, hates our country, and

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.680
<v Speaker 2>by the way, worships you know, has a Quran in

0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 2>his car.

0:54:36.280 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 3>By the way, you know, there's I want to beat

0:54:38.239 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 3>up on Mehdi Hassanmar. He's also tweeted over the weekend yesterday.

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:43.360
<v Speaker 3>God help us if we're about to see a repeat

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 3>of the post Iraq era. We're illegally in Vada Medes country.

0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:51.880
<v Speaker 3>Energize extremists and then get predictable blowback terrorism in the US. Gee,

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 3>why is it predictable that there would be blowback terrorism

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 3>in the United States. I don't feel that there was

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 3>predictable that we would get blowback terrorism when we fought

0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 3>any of our hundred years ago. But apparently now it's

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 3>a predictable consequence if we pursue any foreign policy. Yeah,

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 3>where's that come from?

0:55:06.920 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Madi?

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Maybe people making that predictable shouldn't be in the country.

0:55:12.800 --> 0:55:15.600
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<v Speaker 2>to the show. I'm very excited about this. This is

0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Pastor Robbie Dawkins. He spent a lot of time in

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:23.000
<v Speaker 2>country in Iran, throughout the Middle East, Pakistan. If he

0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 2>tells you where he's at currently, that's his prerogative. Here,

0:56:26.040 --> 0:56:28.400
<v Speaker 2>welcome to the show, Pastor Dawkins.

0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 13>Thanks Andrew, it's glad to join. I'm in Dubai. Yeah,

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 13>kind of saying.

0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.520
<v Speaker 2>You're in Dubai. So Dubai is actually you. There's been

0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 2>some missiles that have gone right to dubybe if really

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:43.520
<v Speaker 2>close to that. I forget the name of the building. Yeah,

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:44.759
<v Speaker 2>it's the tallest building in the world.

0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Are you hearing the explosions go off?

0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 13>Yes, most definitely. They hit early this morning. They hit

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 13>the airport. They had struck one of the malls here

0:56:56.760 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 13>before that. Also, they struck a hotel yesterday or day

0:57:02.200 --> 0:57:07.560
<v Speaker 13>before yesterday. Rather, Yeah, we've got several videos that we've

0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:10.600
<v Speaker 13>taken of missiles that have been shot down, drones that

0:57:10.640 --> 0:57:15.240
<v Speaker 13>have been shot down. We're hearing mortar blasts here. Today

0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:19.680
<v Speaker 13>was a little bit unusually calm for what we've been

0:57:19.720 --> 0:57:20.280
<v Speaker 13>hearing over.

0:57:20.160 --> 0:57:21.200
<v Speaker 2>The past couple of days.

0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 13>But it's definitely been very active. And my connections in

0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 13>northern Iraq and also the northern part of Iran have

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:37.640
<v Speaker 13>also been hearing active you know, fighting that's been going

0:57:37.640 --> 0:57:38.360
<v Speaker 13>on there too.

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 2>So what do you think the goal is? And we're

0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 2>going to get into Iran and just a second, pastor,

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 2>but what do you think the goal is of the

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:53.240
<v Speaker 2>IRGC sent it off missiles into neighboring Arab states. Well,

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a couple of thoughts.

0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 13>My personal thoughts is I think they're trying to provoke

0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:02.880
<v Speaker 13>Arab nations to participate very foolishly. I mean, why would

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.680
<v Speaker 13>they do that if they're being struck by the IRGC.

0:58:06.400 --> 0:58:08.800
<v Speaker 13>But that's it seems to be that's something that they're

0:58:08.840 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 13>trying to do. They're they're in an active ploy to

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 13>engage other Arab nations, you know, Iran is not Arab,

0:58:15.280 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 13>it's Persian. But to engage them in engaging into the battle,

0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 13>and so that's something that they are heartily involved in

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 13>doing and have been trying to do. But all of

0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 13>these surrounding nations UAE, Bahrain, Saudi Qatar have all given

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.560
<v Speaker 13>support to the US and IDF forces.

0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 2>All right, So this is what I'm trying to ascertain

0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and why I wanted to have you on pastor is

0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:44.600
<v Speaker 2>because not only are your longtime friend of mine, but

0:58:44.720 --> 0:58:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I know for knowing you for years that you have

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:53.360
<v Speaker 2>been doing ministry work inside Iran in Pakistan. You know

0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.160
<v Speaker 2>this area very well and you know the people very well,

0:58:56.560 --> 0:59:01.440
<v Speaker 2>so you know what this is the So there's conflicting reports,

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:03.280
<v Speaker 2>right so I'm seeing these videos you could throw three

0:59:03.360 --> 0:59:07.600
<v Speaker 2>seventy six on just without sound, please, But this is

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:12.400
<v Speaker 2>apparently pro government rallies that are taking place right now.

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:17.320
<v Speaker 2>They're saying no submission, no surrender, war with America. But

0:59:17.440 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 2>you're hearing the other side of that story, which are

0:59:21.440 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 2>people within Iran that seem to be very happy about this.

0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 2>What is your gauge right now about the actual sentiment

0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 2>on the ground. Are they for these strikes? Are they

0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:33.840
<v Speaker 2>against them. What's the truth.

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 13>I did not know one Iranian that is not pro

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:41.720
<v Speaker 13>this war that they are happy that Israel and the

0:59:41.800 --> 0:59:44.360
<v Speaker 13>United States are striking them. I don't know one that

0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 13>is not happy about that. These rallies that are taking place,

0:59:48.080 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 13>you have to realize this has gone on. I've worked

0:59:50.040 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 13>in Iran for over twenty years and also Afghanistan and Pakistan,

0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.160
<v Speaker 13>as you mentioned, and let me tell you what they

0:59:56.240 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 13>do is they force many of these students. There's a

0:59:58.880 --> 1:00:02.880
<v Speaker 13>food shortage, water shortage. They are threatening students. They are

1:00:02.920 --> 1:00:06.080
<v Speaker 13>threatening people that they will cut off their ability to

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.240
<v Speaker 13>get food, that they will cut off their ability to

1:00:08.240 --> 1:00:11.440
<v Speaker 13>get supplies if they do not show up at these rallies.

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:15.240
<v Speaker 13>If you're a government worker, if you're IDF, military or police,

1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:18.040
<v Speaker 13>if you don't show up and your family doesn't show up,

1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:21.960
<v Speaker 13>you can even be killed. They are taking this extremely seriously.

1:00:22.040 --> 1:00:25.040
<v Speaker 13>So this is all propaganda. It is all under the

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:29.600
<v Speaker 13>threat of the IRGC maintaining control. And that is literally

1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:32.280
<v Speaker 13>all that it is. They've even paid students in the

1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:36.120
<v Speaker 13>past imagine George Soros and things he's done, you know,

1:00:36.200 --> 1:00:38.520
<v Speaker 13>where they have forced them to come or that they

1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:40.480
<v Speaker 13>would be cut from the school, they would be cut

1:00:40.480 --> 1:00:43.560
<v Speaker 13>from the education system and their food supply would be

1:00:43.560 --> 1:00:46.720
<v Speaker 13>completely cut off. That is what is happening, and that's

1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:51.280
<v Speaker 13>not hypothesis, that is actual facts of what's taking place

1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:51.760
<v Speaker 13>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I've sent you just over the weekend, I've

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<v Speaker 2>sent you a number of videos that have been circulating online.

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<v Speaker 2>Some have im proven to be old videos of the

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<v Speaker 2>irgc rallies, but these ones do, the ones that I

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<v Speaker 2>just put on screen, they do appear to be current.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're saying that you're hearing from the ground, your

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<v Speaker 2>sources on the ground, that a lot of these are

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<v Speaker 2>coerced demonstrations. There's got to be real popular support though,

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<v Speaker 2>right even if it's a minority, I'm sure there's factions

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<v Speaker 2>within eronomy. It's a huge country, eighty ninety million people,

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<v Speaker 2>various geographies, various ethnicities. There's got to be popular support

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<v Speaker 2>for the regime. I'm sure. Do we have any idea

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<v Speaker 2>of what a percentage of support of the nation would

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<v Speaker 2>be supportive of the regime versus supportive of overthrowing it.

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<v Speaker 13>There's not going to be any hard numbers regarding percentage

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<v Speaker 13>of ratios. I can tell you right now, Like I

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<v Speaker 13>know thousands of Iranians in the country. I'm in communication

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<v Speaker 13>with Iranians every day, all day long, and there is

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<v Speaker 13>no one that is in support but the IRGC literally knowing.

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<v Speaker 13>That's the reason why you're seeing all of these people

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<v Speaker 13>shouting from their you know, flats and from their balconies,

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<v Speaker 13>you know, death to the Iyatola, death to you know,

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<v Speaker 13>the IRGC, and they are just sick of it. So

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<v Speaker 13>all of it is propaganda there. If there is anybody

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<v Speaker 13>that's in support, most of those people are in support

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<v Speaker 13>because they've been told that if the US comes in

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<v Speaker 13>that they will be killed. Even though the president clearly

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<v Speaker 13>stated that they will give you know, immunity to anybody

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<v Speaker 13>who surrenders, they're being told, no, you'll be killed, and

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<v Speaker 13>if they don't kill you, then they're going to be

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<v Speaker 13>killed by the IRGC. So this is like old school

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<v Speaker 13>imagine old school Soviet you know, way of dealing with things.

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<v Speaker 13>That's what's happening right now on the ground in Iran.

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<v Speaker 13>But the percentage I'm telling you now, there is vast,

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<v Speaker 13>vast numbers I know university students right now that are

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<v Speaker 13>are ready to take over, that are ready to do things,

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<v Speaker 13>that are ready to step up that they've been prepared

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<v Speaker 13>for this for a long time, and you know, we're

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<v Speaker 13>are you know, my particular ministry. We're getting medical supplies

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<v Speaker 13>into them, We're getting starlinks into them, We're smuggling those in.

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<v Speaker 13>We have an active route for that. And there's just

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<v Speaker 13>but there's so much demand right now because the vast

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<v Speaker 13>population they are ready to see this regime fall and

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<v Speaker 13>they are not in support.

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<v Speaker 2>So that we we had representative of you like Craanon

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<v Speaker 2>before and you know, nature abhors a vacuum, as they say, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and President Trump is telling people to stay inside, so

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<v Speaker 2>presumably the supporters of the overthrow of the regime are

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<v Speaker 2>still inside. They're hunkering down. It's still dangerous. The question, though, becomes,

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<v Speaker 2>is there any you know this I always forget his name.

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<v Speaker 2>Crown Prince raised a yeah, so is there popular support

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<v Speaker 2>for him coming in to help usher in new leadership?

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<v Speaker 2>You think? So? Okay? Interesting? I was absolutely Blake and

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<v Speaker 2>I were convinced were getting there was like an op

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<v Speaker 2>going on because we had a number of things we

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<v Speaker 2>weren't sure if that was sort of outside prep propaganda

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<v Speaker 2>from expats that were all all over the world. The

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<v Speaker 2>diaspora of Iranian Persians or if that so, you're telling

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<v Speaker 2>me your read on the ground, because again you know

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of these people. You're saying that's actual organic

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<v Speaker 2>support for this guy.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, and the main reason why is because they do

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<v Speaker 13>not trust anybody that has been in leadership so far

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<v Speaker 13>coming out of the regime that would say they would

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<v Speaker 13>switch sides or that they don't agree with it anymore.

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<v Speaker 13>Polavi has made a commitment to a democratic government. He

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<v Speaker 13>said he would only take the position if the Iranian

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<v Speaker 13>people chose him. That's a big difference from everything else

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<v Speaker 13>that they're hearing inside the country from the regime. And

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<v Speaker 13>they also are people that are hoping for him to

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<v Speaker 13>step in, even if it was in a form like

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<v Speaker 13>a Prince Charles Forum where it was a figurehead, but

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<v Speaker 13>to come in and to be a stabilization and help

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<v Speaker 13>set up a new government that is voted upon which

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<v Speaker 13>he has committed to fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but the question that you're your read on the

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<v Speaker 2>ground is that because the brutal crackdowns on protesters, we're

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<v Speaker 2>hearing reports of twenty maybe thirty thousand were killed in

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<v Speaker 2>the streets, you believe that more than fifty you believe

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<v Speaker 2>it's higher. Okay, Wow, So you believe you believe that

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<v Speaker 2>despite that crackdown, that the survivors of that movement are

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<v Speaker 2>ready to come back to the streets and reclaim power.

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<v Speaker 13>When when the coast is clear, absolutely, you're going to realize, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 13>they can't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 13>They go to the hospital and they have wounds that

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<v Speaker 13>are or they've been marked as being participants in those protests,

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<v Speaker 13>they will be killed at the hospital. So there's underground clinics.

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<v Speaker 13>That's the reason why we've been getting medical splices in

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<v Speaker 13>because there's underground clinics because people cannot show up to

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<v Speaker 13>the hospitals or they'll be killed as soon as they arrive.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. These are some some videos that Robbie sent from

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Dubai, which is crazy. Three seventy eight. This

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<v Speaker 2>is actual explosions that they were able to see three

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eight. If you can throw that up from it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like a high rise that we're looking down. Were

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<v Speaker 2>one of these missiles landed in a civilian area. Pretty

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<v Speaker 2>wild and you can see him in three seventy seven. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>the the missiles coming down and tracking them, these I

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<v Speaker 2>mean just just wild to see that in the skyline

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<v Speaker 2>of Dubai, which is one of the most famous skylines

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. Just incredible. Robbie, We're joined by Pastor

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<v Speaker 2>Robbie Dawkins. He's currently in Dubai, but he has a

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<v Speaker 2>long history of doing ministry work in Iran and Pakistan Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that you know, people are not

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<v Speaker 2>aware of culturally. I think the American public has an

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<v Speaker 2>image of Persian people, maybe where through movies or just

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<v Speaker 2>an assumption. But explain the difference between an Arab Muslim

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<v Speaker 2>and a Persian Muslim, or a Shia and SUNI I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know how you want to break that down, but culturally,

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<v Speaker 2>give us a sense of what they're like. Are they

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<v Speaker 2>pro Western? Are they anti Western? Is that too simplistic

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<v Speaker 2>a framing please?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, you definitely have the you know, the Persian people

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<v Speaker 13>are very warm to the westernization and warm to the

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<v Speaker 13>United States. What you're seeing even back in the seventies

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<v Speaker 13>with the you know, students that were taking over and

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<v Speaker 13>all that, so much of those were people that were

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<v Speaker 13>from the outskirts, they were from the country. The majority

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<v Speaker 13>of people that ended up you know, leaving here fleeing here.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, we're leaving because they were having you know,

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<v Speaker 13>because the shaw had been overthrown and the government was overthrown.

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<v Speaker 13>Many of them worked in the government and so they

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<v Speaker 13>had to flee for their lives. Anybody with money, any

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<v Speaker 13>anything like that, they had to leave. So Muslim, the

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<v Speaker 13>Muslim population, I actually have I'm quite sure that the

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<v Speaker 13>Christian population right now actually out numbers the Muslim population.

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<v Speaker 13>I know that sounds extreme to say that, but I

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<v Speaker 13>am in communication with numbers that are They're extremely rough.

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<v Speaker 13>There's no way to calculate it and be precise, but

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<v Speaker 13>that they're very, very strong. And people are just sick

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<v Speaker 13>of the Islamic Republic. They're sick of Islam.

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<v Speaker 2>They believe it's all lies.

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<v Speaker 13>You have to realize. Even Mohammad was questioning at the

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<v Speaker 13>end if Allah was a demon or was actually God,

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<v Speaker 13>and he was struggling with that even himself.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say, Robbie, that does sound extreme, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, but I doubt it. But I have

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<v Speaker 2>met a lot of Iranians, you know, whether they're living

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK now or in Los Angeles, that are

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<v Speaker 2>actual Catholics or Christians. So I don't doubt that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a significant population. One of the stories that sits in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind is after Charlie was assassinated, you were telling

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<v Speaker 2>me that you were doing evangelism in these countries. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was Pakistan at that point, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's similar in Iran. And you were saying that Charlie,

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<v Speaker 2>his legacy and his inspiration his life just spurred on

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of conversions. Do you tell us some stories

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<v Speaker 2>about that.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>We actually we were in Hydrobad, Pakistan and the police

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<v Speaker 13>showed up and this I had three hundred people I

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<v Speaker 13>was doing we call them acts, which is Arab Kingdom

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<v Speaker 13>training schools where we're training people how to live the

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<v Speaker 13>Book of Acts, acts and step out to bring people

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<v Speaker 13>into relationship with Christ. And the police showed up and

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<v Speaker 13>they came to the front. I was up speaking and

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<v Speaker 13>it's the first time I've seen this in Afghanistan. You know,

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<v Speaker 13>I've been arrested four different times for the Gospel, three

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<v Speaker 13>times in Afghanistan, one time in Russia, and have been

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<v Speaker 13>through all kinds of things, incarceration over night for days, torture,

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<v Speaker 13>different things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the first.

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<v Speaker 13>Time I never saw any underground church leaders not run.

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<v Speaker 13>They stayed, they were in place, and I was shocked.

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<v Speaker 13>And then the next day the secret police showed up.

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<v Speaker 13>Now these are the guys that can torture you. These

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<v Speaker 13>are the guys that can come in and do all

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<v Speaker 13>these horrible things. I know because I was taken by

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<v Speaker 13>the secret police in Afghanistan and.

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<v Speaker 2>Held for several days.

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<v Speaker 13>But they were they didn't move. And afterwards I looked

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<v Speaker 13>at him and I said, I've never seen people not

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<v Speaker 13>run from the police or the secret police in these countries.

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<v Speaker 13>And I said, why is that? And they said Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 13>And I said, what do you mean, Charlie Kirk. And

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<v Speaker 13>this is right after his assassination. They said, when we

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<v Speaker 13>saw that, we thought, if that man could take a

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<v Speaker 13>bullet and take his life be surrendered for Christ, then

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<v Speaker 13>we can do it too. And we have courage and

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<v Speaker 13>we want to actually dedicate this school in Hyderabad to

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<v Speaker 13>Charlie Kirk. And it was just incredible. They were just fearless.

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<v Speaker 13>And let me tell you something, I've been in that

1:11:11.200 --> 1:11:15.639
<v Speaker 13>situation before. It's the first time I've never seen them young.

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<v Speaker 13>Most of these are like university student age young people.

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<v Speaker 13>And so I was blown away. And they were so inspired.

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<v Speaker 13>They were so touched. Just two days before the memorial

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<v Speaker 13>service you know, had aired, you know, for everyone to see,

1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:36.120
<v Speaker 13>and they were just they were so committed by Charlie's

1:11:36.600 --> 1:11:39.439
<v Speaker 13>willingness to put himself at risk, knowing that he could

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<v Speaker 13>have been killed in Utah and yet going anyway, and

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<v Speaker 13>they were like, if he can do it, then we

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<v Speaker 13>can do it. We're going to step out in boldness

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<v Speaker 13>for Christ as he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's amazing. You know, we often think in

1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:54.960
<v Speaker 2>terms of Charlie's legacy in the US, and rightfully, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Really was a global event, even outside of Christianity. I

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<v Speaker 3>remember the memorial service they held to Seek Temple in

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<v Speaker 3>the UK. I believe.

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<v Speaker 8>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Yeah, so it was.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm hearing from the Iranians. They're inspired. As a matter

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<v Speaker 13>of fact, they told several of them I was coming

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<v Speaker 13>on with you. They wish they could get your the show,

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<v Speaker 13>Charlie Kirk show. But they were like, man, please tell them,

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<v Speaker 13>we are so inspired by everything that we've seen by

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<v Speaker 13>Charlie Kirk. And they know you guys' names, and uh,

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<v Speaker 13>they're they're very inspired by, you know, this encouraging program

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<v Speaker 13>that's speaking to their generation. You know, that that transcends nations,

1:12:31.680 --> 1:12:35.800
<v Speaker 13>it transcends spaces like that, It really really does people

1:12:35.960 --> 1:12:38.840
<v Speaker 13>relate and they feel that sense of purpose that's being

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<v Speaker 13>communicated and being given, and they want that. They want

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<v Speaker 13>that for their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Robbie Dawkins, Pastor Robbie Dawkins, who I've known for years,

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<v Speaker 2>has put his life on the line a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 2>a place that you don't think is hospitable to it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really not actually because you've you've you've been

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<v Speaker 2>in some some dangerous situations, Pastor, So thank you for sharing,

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<v Speaker 2>especially about Charlie's legacy in a place that we don't assume.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really powerful. And please stay safe and I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>in touch with you give it giving us updates from

1:13:15.560 --> 1:13:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the ground in that neck of the wood. So thank you, Pastor, Robbiedawkins.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless you, my friend.

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<v Speaker 13>It's an honor. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Andrew, all right, we'll talk to you soon. Brother.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting called out by some people online. We should

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<v Speaker 3>mention it is primary day tomorrow in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we've got We've got Paxton on the show tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be talking all about it, so please, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>get out and vote.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in Texas. Make your plans now, make sure it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Good, We don't want.

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<v Speaker 3>To hear any of this nonsense about forgetting Yeah jove

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<v Speaker 3>Charlie up the wall.

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